I still think that as long as kaid exists, thatcher is an A tier. Nevertheless, I get your point. Totally agree with all the other replacements. PS you sounded tired dude. hope everything is okay!
I honestly feel like it’s because of the current meta. Ace is a utility beast but the games so focused on just run n gun tdm right now. with the “optional” destruction and utility clearance being more optional than ever. Just a year or so ago we lived in the most utility heavy meta and that’s why ace is all over S tier in old tier lists
IMO Zero is A tier. He has an amazing gun and his gadget gives good Intel and can deny gadgets. Also he has a Gonne6 and hard breaches. Also not putting buck in S is a crime
Buck isn't "overpowered" which is why i didnt put him there. As for Zero, he has good utility on paper but actually getting the utility out of his gadget especially outside of a 5 stack environment is extremely difficult. And even in a 5 stack his cameras' flaws still exist
gridlock not in a is outrageous to me. she can do everything, but open hard walls. with an amazing gun, area denial, flank denial, util burning, getting rid of bulletproof util with nades, can help open hard walls with emps, helps secure plants, can open soft surfaces. she can do everything. i dont see how shes in with everyone else.
Glad to see that you gave some love to Brava ❤ As a Hardstuck diamond player, I think that she can be very strong, but in good hands and in good situation (when def take maestro, aruni or melusi). But she is also a solid pick against intel gadgets like bulletproof or normal cams. Thats true that her drones are loud, but when master of droning plays her, it can change the round by 180 degrees.
Great content, tier list and explanations. Finally, a tier list that is not so large in the S Tier. Mostly, we agree. I’d move IQ to middle or bottom of B. She needs a 5 stack to be effective. Zofia to middle of B tier. Would love to see her made a 2 speed. Lion, Ram and Osa to top of B tier. Ram is amazing on some bomb sites and not as useful for others. The op we disagree the most on is Iana who to me, goes to the bottom of B tier or top of C. Losing the flashes really hurt her. Infinite drones is great but there’s almost never a point to bringing her when Grim exists. Would you ever pick her above Grim, Twitch or even Flores? Her ability needs a quicker cool down for her to be justified being in the same tier as Buck and Ace IMO. She can be used to drone in the primary entry and burn Aruni gates but again, there’s stronger operators that can do that and bring more utility (Grim, Twitch, Flores). I’d love to see both Iana and Flores drones being activated twice as fast. Both are so slow, clunky and leave you exposed. I completely agree with Nomad. I find her gadget completely underwhelming. I’d like to see her buffed by either removing the sound cue from her Air jabs or make them bullet proof, give her only 2 of them and make them recharge 10 seconds after use. Nook needs her silent step back. Make Sledge and Warden a 2 speed. Love the content! All the best!
I'm really surprised with zofia's placement, as a returning siege player after a 4 years break and as a mid elo player, she feels miserable to play compared as what she used to be, even after the 4 concussion grenades nerf.
She is Ash but better. Her loadout isn't as good, but her gadget is superior in every way. The impacts go off instantly as opposed to 1.5 ish seconds, you don't need to reload it, and you also get 2 proximity triggered stuns.
Sens is low-key good for plant, even stronger if paired with Glaz considering Warden isn't getting played much anymore. An example would be a plant on Oregon big window.
It's a decent tierlist, but I'd put Gridlock and Flores higher. I rarely see Gridlock in ranked but honestly she might be one of the most versatile ops in the game. She can cut of flanks and enemies behind mira walls with her gadget, destroy utility, open nonreinforced walls with her shotgun, has emp, smoke and frag grenades, and decent primary guns. For Flores you forgot to mention that he can also destroy Azami's kibas from distance, which makes me pick him more since Azami is one of the strongest defenders right now. I think they can both play an essential role in winning a round in almost any situation on any map.
"Fuze is C because his gadget is only good for clearing every bit of defender utility, and not good for killing the defenders" My brother in Christ, that's the exact reason that he's an Anti-Gadget operator, and not a Front Line operator
@StraightHoops-tf6su ngl... i don't think the tierlist is good but I also do think extremely different... Though I do have weird opinions and takes, Zero needs to be at least A or high B... He put him way to low
LMG rework wasnt as bad for amaru as shotgun spread change. Shotgun spread change is easily the worst thing they've done to the game in a LONG time. I have completely stopped using all shottys except bos-G
I have an idea 💡 How about we boycott playing the new recruit so ubisoft realises that they cant just do nothing in a rework and have to actually rework recruit so he is good
You see thatcher is a fragger operator, hear me out, how you gonna get headshots if you don’t have fookin laser sights. No seriously my friend was so confused why he didn’t have a sight after an emp went off and Thatcher ran him
Lol dude hasn't played Valk enough to know how to play Intel ops. Zero has the best AR and SMG (statistically) and the gonne-6. Other than that, big agree. Ace and Ying are goated
Sens is actually really good i do agree his ability isn't that powerful but it can work, he also has 2 solid guns pof9 and 417 which twitch lion have i would of put him at b (also blackbeard had a buff and his shield is a bit stronger but he is getting a rework) i dont care what you say sens is underrated and his guns are both good
5:45 the rest of his kit isn’t good? what are you talking about? the AK74 with vertical grip now has literally zero recoil, the vendetta is better than some dmrs, and he has frags. i usually agree with most of what you say but i really do not agree with that
Yall need to stop with ash in A, she's a B at best. She's just a 3 speed with an ok gun, and her gadget is just not that usefull, since she can get countered by litteraly half of the defence ops (Jaeger, wamai, aruni, and litteraly any hard wall) If you put ash in A tier, then I want zero with the gonne 6 in there too, bc jes got better weapons and can entry better than ash, if you use her gadget only to open barricades. Also buck not in S is a death wish, bro litteraly have a crazy good gun, 3 weapons if you think hard enough, soft breach capacity, hardbreaches, and 2 speed wich is great Edit : Picking ash is like pre 1.5 removal, people would pick Warden for his gun and 3 speed and didn't give 2 shits about his gadget, that's why I said that ash is terrible
Ash has good guns, they have good stats. and Gonne 6 is not as valuable as an Ash launcher lmfao. Ash Launcher can counter things like Mira as well and you get two of them. Zero is not better than Ash
@deezusnubes yeah I know, but the braindeads who only rush with ash and die with defuser needs to hear that, bc they rush and dont play the gadget. And on the gonne 6, ik it's not as valuable as ash, that's the whole point of it only being a 1 time use. (Bc otherwise ash and zofia would not exist) But yeah, I said zero but it could have been any 3 speed with the gonne 6, to say that rushers need to stop instapicking an op for their guns.
@deezusnubes yes, but it's a bit sad to see people play characters for their weapons instead of the gadget, wich is the whole point of the game, being a team..
@@1001-i4y impact emps aren't as good as thatcher they have lower range, thatcher has an extra emp, his emo lasts longer, and bandit tricking works on both impacts and thatcher
Dokkaebi should be A tier imo rather than S, her weapons are not flexible much( most ppl only use the DMR) and also DMR close range can be harder now after the 1.5 scope removal
I know Dokkaebi is a good operator but I personally don’t like using her because two main reasons I don’t use dmrs because of the fire rate and like using people like Lion and twitch because they can make sure I’m safe and there simple to use
That's the first time I see ace is not in the S tier.
Thats cause my tierlist isn't weighted as heavily to the top. I only wanted to put people in S that I felt were "overpowered"
because ace is more situational and on some sites even useless
I still think that as long as kaid exists, thatcher is an A tier. Nevertheless, I get your point. Totally agree with all the other replacements.
PS you sounded tired dude. hope everything is okay!
I honestly feel like it’s because of the current meta. Ace is a utility beast but the games so focused on just run n gun tdm right now. with the “optional” destruction and utility clearance being more optional than ever. Just a year or so ago we lived in the most utility heavy meta and that’s why ace is all over S tier in old tier lists
@@Shikitera ace literly cant b useless bru what?
IMO Zero is A tier. He has an amazing gun and his gadget gives good Intel and can deny gadgets. Also he has a Gonne6 and hard breaches.
Also not putting buck in S is a crime
Agreed
Buck isn't "overpowered" which is why i didnt put him there. As for Zero, he has good utility on paper but actually getting the utility out of his gadget especially outside of a 5 stack environment is extremely difficult. And even in a 5 stack his cameras' flaws still exist
@@BMP if his cams were more quiet he would be overpowered
@@BMPyou ranked Deimos high bc of his 5 stack potential
I agree his cams do actually give Intel depending on how you place them and how you use them. But great vid!
Guys I think the reason why Thermite is finding himself this low on the list is because Ace basically just does his job better
Honestly I have to disagree, Ace is so much easier to bandit or impact trick compared to him and hibana
@@TheColonel2112 my comment is a joke lol
He repeated that exact same sentence a couple of times without realizing it, in 2 different cuts
@@ImagikaAli mb didn’t finish the video when I wrote that 😅
@@TheColonel2112 XDDDD
gridlock not in a is outrageous to me. she can do everything, but open hard walls. with an amazing gun, area denial, flank denial, util burning, getting rid of bulletproof util with nades, can help open hard walls with emps, helps secure plants, can open soft surfaces. she can do everything. i dont see how shes in with everyone else.
she is pretty amazing, i use her pretty frequently with her smg - shotgun - frag combo, if she was a 2 speed im sure she would be put in OP
She’s fat so can’t move fast
Fuze is also area denial, considering he forces defenders into the open
No he doesnt
@AveryHammer yeah people love not panicking when it drops right on top of them...
True, but he still has his flaws
@thatonespy358 why would you oanick instead of shooting it? If it's right above you and you shoot it right away you will be fine and won't get damaged
@@AveryHammer it’s kind of hard to find exactly where it is, and it takes your eyes off an angle you were hard scoping
Glad to see that you gave some love to Brava ❤ As a Hardstuck diamond player, I think that she can be very strong, but in good hands and in good situation (when def take maestro, aruni or melusi). But she is also a solid pick against intel gadgets like bulletproof or normal cams. Thats true that her drones are loud, but when master of droning plays her, it can change the round by 180 degrees.
Wow. I never even thought of brava hacking default cams.
interesting to see your opinion cuz i usually watch your videos for tips and mistakes about operators and how to learn them
Great content, tier list and explanations. Finally, a tier list that is not so large in the S Tier.
Mostly, we agree. I’d move IQ to middle or bottom of B. She needs a 5 stack to be effective. Zofia to middle of B tier. Would love to see her made a 2 speed.
Lion, Ram and Osa to top of B tier. Ram is amazing on some bomb sites and not as useful for others.
The op we disagree the most on is Iana who to me, goes to the bottom of B tier or top of C. Losing the flashes really hurt her. Infinite drones is great but there’s almost never a point to bringing her when Grim exists. Would you ever pick her above Grim, Twitch or even Flores? Her ability needs a quicker cool down for her to be justified being in the same tier as Buck and Ace IMO. She can be used to drone in the primary entry and burn Aruni gates but again, there’s stronger operators that can do that and bring more utility (Grim, Twitch, Flores). I’d love to see both Iana and Flores drones being activated twice as fast. Both are so slow, clunky and leave you exposed.
I completely agree with Nomad. I find her gadget completely underwhelming. I’d like to see her buffed by either removing the sound cue from her Air jabs or make them bullet proof, give her only 2 of them and make them recharge 10 seconds after use. Nook needs her silent step back. Make Sledge and Warden a 2 speed.
Love the content! All the best!
Well done video, organized in time stamps, good class description and good explanation on why you put each op there. You my friend earned a sub.
I'm really surprised with zofia's placement, as a returning siege player after a 4 years break and as a mid elo player, she feels miserable to play compared as what she used to be, even after the 4 concussion grenades nerf.
She is Ash but better. Her loadout isn't as good, but her gadget is superior in every way. The impacts go off instantly as opposed to 1.5 ish seconds, you don't need to reload it, and you also get 2 proximity triggered stuns.
For IQ, your forgot to mention vigil, though I assume vigil doesn’t have a foothold in the meta since you didn’t mention him
Yeah vigil right now isn't too meta so i kind of forgot to mention that, but he may become meta after the solis nerf. We will have to see
Sens is low-key good for plant, even stronger if paired with Glaz considering Warden isn't getting played much anymore. An example would be a plant on Oregon big window.
It's a decent tierlist, but I'd put Gridlock and Flores higher. I rarely see Gridlock in ranked but honestly she might be one of the most versatile ops in the game. She can cut of flanks and enemies behind mira walls with her gadget, destroy utility, open nonreinforced walls with her shotgun, has emp, smoke and frag grenades, and decent primary guns. For Flores you forgot to mention that he can also destroy Azami's kibas from distance, which makes me pick him more since Azami is one of the strongest defenders right now. I think they can both play an essential role in winning a round in almost any situation on any map.
I understand why fuze is C but I believe that since he has one of the best pistols and the newly op shield, he has a bit of potential
Agree with Montagne, rework made him stronger but is still mostly team dependent
Yeah for sure
"Fuze is C because his gadget is only good for clearing every bit of defender utility, and not good for killing the defenders"
My brother in Christ, that's the exact reason that he's an Anti-Gadget operator, and not a Front Line operator
Hard breach and EMP is a fantastic solo Q combo.
This kid has to be unranked
Expand on this please?
nice video bro
💙
I swear he said the same thing for black beard he said back in the last ranked video. They gotta move his change up on the road map man😂
I mean... it is a tierlist... not an amazing one... but it is one... yay...
what would you change
@StraightHoops-tf6su ngl... i don't think the tierlist is good but I also do think extremely different...
Though I do have weird opinions and takes, Zero needs to be at least A or high B...
He put him way to low
@@Its_Only_ChillZero is not an every round pick
@@Its_Only_Chill zero is ass bru
@@MCG6233 best gun in the game, 4 cameras, gonne-6...
Need I say more
They did Blackbeard so dirty bro, mega buff my boy.
Shield health nerf- 20 Hp
ADS nerf
Speed nerf
Damage nerf
Like what did he do 💀
LMG rework wasnt as bad for amaru as shotgun spread change. Shotgun spread change is easily the worst thing they've done to the game in a LONG time. I have completely stopped using all shottys except bos-G
Zero so underrated. Nomad should be A other than thay solid list
“All Fuze can do is get rid of all utility” ☠️
Could I get the link to the tier list?
tiermaker.com/create/rainbow-six-siege-attacker-tierlist-y9s1-15099811
When you say overpowered, you’re saying that they should be nerfed in some sort of way, right?
Putting Ace in A tier
4 weeks later..
“Ace is the best operator in siege”
hard rn
W
Fuze is crazy on low rank controller
Great list. However Ash is B tier and monty is way too OP right now
Place your bets on when's the Defenders Tier List
Friday 💀
I was dumbfounded when he placed Ace at A, but skipped to the end and realized S tier was basically (needs a nerf)
Why does everyone think ace is good?
@@MsKyliel best hard breacher, no question.
Funny how Blackbeard is in needs a rework tier and he is getting one this year
I have an idea 💡
How about we boycott playing the new recruit so ubisoft realises that they cant just do nothing in a rework and have to actually rework recruit so he is good
I think we should boycott them by not spending money until the recruit is fixed
@@mayochup4684 agreed but also if I see anybody wearing the ash skin from the membership I will personally humiliate them
@@spncrszn it’s about to be TK Tuesday when I see the membership skin
You see thatcher is a fragger operator, hear me out, how you gonna get headshots if you don’t have fookin laser sights. No seriously my friend was so confused why he didn’t have a sight after an emp went off and Thatcher ran him
Why did you call sens “their”…..
11:51
And it cant be used effectively against walls
And it cant be used effectively against walls
Lol dude hasn't played Valk enough to know how to play Intel ops. Zero has the best AR and SMG (statistically) and the gonne-6. Other than that, big agree. Ace and Ying are goated
osa isnt A bru i would have her at C but every other take i agree with mostly
Zofia is so unfun to play as a 3 armour. Also her ability feels clunky and bad to use
Mans forgot Echo
mans forgot echo's a defender lol
You should start making shorts out of clips you hit or just funny things in siege you will probably get more likes views and subs on your kids
Sens is actually really good i do agree his ability isn't that powerful but it can work, he also has 2 solid guns pof9 and 417 which twitch lion have i would of put him at b (also blackbeard had a buff and his shield is a bit stronger but he is getting a rework) i dont care what you say sens is underrated and his guns are both good
Sens hurts you more than he helps. Warden has too high of a pick rate for him to be useful.
@@AveryHammer most warden player dont even use his ability and like i said i agree sens doesn't have the best ability
pof9 is really bad. 417 is decent. gadget is bad. why would you ever realistically pick this operator outside of very niche situational site takes.
@@GeographyNerd1 that's a stereotype from the TDM meta. We are past that, and everyone who played Warden before is playing Wamai.
@deezusnubes The 417 is a contestant for the best gun in the game. Two taps at any range to any character is insane and it has no recoil.
didnt the seige devs refer to striker as a her
Edit: i looked it up, striker is a her
Nobody cares about pronouns in games. Nobody says 'erm actually they are a they/them' if someone refers to sens as a dude.
5:45 the rest of his kit isn’t good? what are you talking about? the AK74 with vertical grip now has literally zero recoil, the vendetta is better than some dmrs, and he has frags. i usually agree with most of what you say but i really do not agree with that
Ak 74 cant have vertical grip
@@Aragor-78 they added it in new blood
@@dogemaster9676 the ak is a bad weapon so giving it a grip isnt going to help
@@MichaelBlaze-v8z if you don’t have recoil you can headshot every time, instant kill regardless
@@dogemaster9676 i never said it had recoil i said it was trash
I’d say that finka placement is false. And if anything she got an actual nerf after deadly omen dropped along with lesion
dog water take, finka is def an S tier op
Og Recruit is SSS Tier.
Yall need to stop with ash in A, she's a B at best.
She's just a 3 speed with an ok gun, and her gadget is just not that usefull, since she can get countered by litteraly half of the defence ops (Jaeger, wamai, aruni, and litteraly any hard wall)
If you put ash in A tier, then I want zero with the gonne 6 in there too, bc jes got better weapons and can entry better than ash, if you use her gadget only to open barricades.
Also buck not in S is a death wish, bro litteraly have a crazy good gun, 3 weapons if you think hard enough, soft breach capacity, hardbreaches, and 2 speed wich is great
Edit :
Picking ash is like pre 1.5 removal, people would pick Warden for his gun and 3 speed and didn't give 2 shits about his gadget, that's why I said that ash is terrible
Ash has good guns, they have good stats. and Gonne 6 is not as valuable as an Ash launcher lmfao. Ash Launcher can counter things like Mira as well and you get two of them. Zero is not better than Ash
@deezusnubes yeah I know, but the braindeads who only rush with ash and die with defuser needs to hear that, bc they rush and dont play the gadget.
And on the gonne 6, ik it's not as valuable as ash, that's the whole point of it only being a 1 time use. (Bc otherwise ash and zofia would not exist)
But yeah, I said zero but it could have been any 3 speed with the gonne 6, to say that rushers need to stop instapicking an op for their guns.
Ash has alot of uses especially with making verts and ruin site setups the r4 c will win u slot of gun fights
@@Xx0bamaGamingxX just because people misuse ops doesn’t make them worse or other ops better…
@deezusnubes yes, but it's a bit sad to see people play characters for their weapons instead of the gadget, wich is the whole point of the game, being a team..
Tubarao counters Glaz as well
and they cant be used on walls. and they cant be used on walls.
One time I got 3 kills with fuzes gadget
So? You want a cookie? A trophy?
@@Real-FaZe-Carpet no I’m saying fuzes gadget isn’t useless
@@MaxPS9 that was one time
@@MaxPS9did you ever consider your enemies aren’t good?
so we put lion A but we put thatcher in b good ranking
Hes useless ngl
@user-qj6xs4cv6c you are a bronze at max there is a reason thatcher has such a high ban rate
@@okwhy8720 bro you can counter just by bandit tricking and ops have secondary emps so why use him
@@1001-i4y impact emps aren't as good as thatcher they have lower range, thatcher has an extra emp, his emo lasts longer, and bandit tricking works on both impacts and thatcher
@@okwhy8720 both get the job done and bringing thatcher instead is just a loss for your team like dokkaebi has emps and she has a good ability
I main Nokk and Fuze :(
Dokkaebi should be A tier imo rather than S, her weapons are not flexible much( most ppl only use the DMR) and also DMR close range can be harder now after the 1.5 scope removal
Yh but overpowered
most people don’t only use her dmr, what are you on
I know Dokkaebi is a good operator but I personally don’t like using her because two main reasons I don’t use dmrs because of the fire rate and like using people like Lion and twitch because they can make sure I’m safe and there simple to use
deimos is bad in quickmatch autism counters deiomos just saying
5 minutes without a video. The channel is dying fr.
This list is trash 💀💀💀😭😭😭 😢
3RD COMMENT
W mans
Cringe using the they them pronouns
wah wah
Jesus man how many times are you gonna repeat yourself when describing an Operator? 😂
shut up gd😭
4 veiws in 1 minute bro fell off
fr bro did fall off