IMPORTANT NOTE: One thing to be aware of is don't leave your Windows thumb drive attached to the computer when you are done with the install or if you have not installed Opencore yet as you can boot into Windows by mistake without the protection of OpenCore which can write Windows certificates to your bootrom which can brick your Mac. You want to make sure you are booting into Opencore before Windows loads or you can brick your Mac Pro. New video to follow on how to protect your Mac Pro from this happening so you don't need to worry about it.
Thanks for your tips! I am also one of those who can't sleep when I don't get everything right on my MacPro 2009! At the moment everything running perfectly with 2 systems Big Sur and Sonoma.
Hi brother! Glad you were finally able to do this! I had chatted with you quite a while back and explained that it was indeed possible becuz I had done it myself.. mac pro 5,1 using a single 500gb nvme with open core booting win 11 uefi install, sonoma,ventura monterey, calalina and high sierra all on that one drive..everything except win 11 is APFS which is why u can have so many mac systems using so little space..I notice you are creating a partition for Each mac OS..The beauty of APFS is that you can create multiple Containers which can be formatted and used for multiple mac systems.. these APFS containers Share space yet allow individual seperate installs.. The only time I create another Actual partition is when I am adding windows....... There are 2 Seperate dedicated efi partitions on my nvme, 1 for the mac OS systems and 1 for windows 11 uefi ...I do not use bootcamp...one part of the drive is apfs and the remainder is ntfs .each partition has its own efi...Zero issues with write certificates with the UEFI windows install becauz the windows installer does not have secureboot nor TPM ,its compatible with old computers like the mac pro and becuz there is no secureboot in it, there is nothing written to the bootrom...Ive checked, its clean and a non issue.. I forgot to mention: the win 11 installer I use is created with Rufus and the tpm and secureboot that are usually native are removed...
Two efi is interesting. I will check that out, I believe my second partition is just an APFS container but maybe not. I could delete one and then add a container to the Sonoma container. See what happens. I also know MacSchrauber added a mount efi script in Martin Lo OC package and it comes up with a warning saying you have windows installed, would you like to protect your Mac so that windows will only boot when open core is running I plan to text him and find out exactly what that does and I used Rufus for the MICROSOFT install which removes the TPM and secure boot so how is it that you wind up with two EFI the way you did it. Did you format the whole drive in APFS first?
Thank you very much for your suggestion to install Windows 11 first on that empty NVME. That saved me from a lot of trouble. In my attempt to install Win10 earlier I‘ve also discovered that BootCamp formats the currently used disk’s partition table to some kind of hybrid MBR/GPT, which leads to an error when selecting the unallocated disk in the Windows Installer. I solved the problem by using GDisk, but I don’t recommend that. Forget BootCamp, especially in case of Win11. It's no longer of any use. Stick to Lance‘s tutorial and you‘ll be good!
awesome video but you've forgot to mention how to remove the EFI\Boot\Microsoft folder. It is an important step as the process of installing Windows 11 on a NVMe drive writes certificates in the EFI (in ur case, you have OCLP, so, you're protected, but in case of NVRAM reset......) and it can be dangerous for Mac Pro 5,1(risk of brick). Peronnally, I use OpenCore Configurator to do this step easily. It will remove the possibility to boot Windows after directly from the Apple Boot Picker, so, the Mac is "protected" (to check after each updates)
BUt if you delete the Microsoft folder you can no longer see the windows drive in the bootloader?? I have opencore configurator so how do you do it exactly? I know that MacShrauber wrote a script that is included in Martin Lo’s opecore package that will do this for you. It comes up with a warning saying hey you have windows installed would you like to protect it so I can only boot when opencore is booted? You hit disable and you are good.
I already had Mojave installed, OCLP does not support booting into Mojave anymore. You have to hold option at boot and then you can select Mojave but that’s only if you have a boot screen, holding options stops OCLP from loading that’s why I install enable GOP into my boot ram. It gives me apple‘s native boot screen with a generic GPU so you can boot into Mojaveor you can remove your core legacy patcher drive and booed up if you don’t have enable GOP or an Apple GPU you should be able to boot into Mojave, but you will have a blank screen until it gets to the login screen.
Great video, as usual. I’m going to try and replicate this on my MacPro 6,1 using Samsung T7 drives if possible. I bought a Caldigit TS3 dock and am using an Apple Thunderbolt 2 cable with the Apple thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter to run the TS3. Do you think that this plan will work to run Windows 11 and a Linux Distro on a T7?
I have not tried to install Windows on an external drive so not sure. But I have a new enclosure and going to try putting my NVMe that I used here in the video into it and see if I can boot off it.
Awesome!! Thanks Lance!!! I'm going to try your way next! But I have been doing this for years and my secret weapon is Macrium Reflect!!!!!.. I usually start with 2 partitions in macOS. I then install macOS... I then take a install of win 11 from another drive and using Macrium clone that to the 2nd macOS partition. It is a simpler way for me but your way is great too my friend! P.S> Do u remember I was trying to get u to switch to oclp for a couple of years? hehe
I do remember but was loyal to Martin Lo until I finally moved up from Monterey because I got my 7,1. Downgrading my GPU just to move up to a more recent OS was not something I wanted to do.
Thanx again Lance. For years I been installing Hyper V on Mac Pro by putting the SSD into another computer to install. I believe I did it MBR & EUFI I think I wrote the Windows Certs on 1 of my Mac Pros because it’s Buggy. The others are rock solid. None of my 3 Hyper V Mac’s have open core. Is it ok if I use the MBR install ? Or do I still risk bricking ?
Download MacSchraubers Rom-Dumo and make a backup of your rom it will give you a report if you have Microsoft certificates. github.com/Macschrauber/Macschrauber-s-Rom-Dump
Thank you for the tutorial. Can this be done on a non-Mac computer? That is, install OpenCore LP on a PC as is? I understand that OCLP is for unsupported Macs. Thanks again.
Hi and many thanks for this channell. The q: would not be safer or better to use a pci switch card with multiple nvmess and. Have one for mac os and thevothet for Win?
it can't hurt, but the point of this was to show it can be done, so far know issues. Also you need to boot into opencore always before loading windows. There is a way to setup windows so you can't boot it without opencore. Video coming soon.
Hi lance I Hope you re fine thank you so much for your hard work and all your vidéos I have something to ask you I wanna install ventura or sonoma on my macpro 5.1 With OCLP but I need to inject ssdt titan ridge for Thunderbolt to use my apollo and uad Thunderbolt satellite in Daisy chaîn like I did with Martin Lo but I get an issue it s stop booting in os While with ocml I had a short reboot and all was connected could you help me to résolve that issue thank you my friend 😊
Have you tried opencore configurator to inject ssdt. I have not tried my Titan ridge with the 5,1 lately, and don’t have any thunderbolt interfaces to test unfortunately. There is also a titan ridge Facebook group.
@@MacSoundSolutions I have made with OC but the SSDT is detected by OCLP but when I plug my2 thunderbolt devices the boot process stop when no thunderbolt devices the os Boot using Martin lo its good
@@RichieKeane two different fixes, you need to use opencore configurator app to disable the spoofbluetooth.kext that will fix the Bluetooth issue in Mac OS, you have to use the app to mount your opencore efi then scan it and then disable the kext. Windows is a device manager thing but I had issues with Bluetooth not wifi. WiFi works for me, had to use device manager to select a Broadcom card something like that under unknown WiFi or BT devices
@@MacSoundSolutions any reason why it will not fcking go to boot screen if Mcfiver or NVME drive is installed? Can boot of usb / ssd etc but as soon as I have NVME in it freezes every time after chime and option??
Somewhere i’m stuck. What i have and did: Normal 5.1 2012 12core 2.4GHz with Metal GPU and bootscreen. Boot from genuine Mojave; sled 1. NVME installed in PCI slot. Erased the nvme ssd as shown. Partioned and such. Apply. Then i download OCLP and want to install OCLP onto this partitioned NVME SSD. All goes well so it seems but during reboot (still following instructions from Lance) i do the same, hold option, pick EFI boot and then choose Mojave. Lance says it cant and gets an error, mine can… it just boots into Mojave. How 🤷🏼♂️. I then put the power off. Installed windows, that went well. But then i get stuck at installing MacOS on the other partitions... how do i get into that menu? Thanks
Holding option is how you boot into Mojave once opencore is installed as it bypasses opencore. Just booting should boot you into the Opencore bootloader once installed which does not support booting into Mojave. Download the Mac OS installer using opencore and build a bootable USB stick, install Mac OS from that.
My MacPro 5.1 can only boot via NVMe with an MacOS installation USB stick or with a HD in bay 1 also in this format. How do I make NVMe boot on its own?
@@MacSoundSolutions Then can not install the new photoshop ver.26 and lightroom 14 on old macbooks even if it is updates to the latest mac os via OCLP. In my case MB pro retina mid 2012. Time for MacBook pro M4 MAX :).
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IMPORTANT NOTE: One thing to be aware of is don't leave your Windows thumb drive attached to the computer when you are done with the install or if you have not installed Opencore yet as you can boot into Windows by mistake without the protection of OpenCore which can write Windows certificates to your bootrom which can brick your Mac. You want to make sure you are booting into Opencore before Windows loads or you can brick your Mac Pro. New video to follow on how to protect your Mac Pro from this happening so you don't need to worry about it.
Thanks for your tips! I am also one of those who can't sleep when I don't get everything right on my MacPro 2009! At the moment everything running perfectly with 2 systems Big Sur and Sonoma.
Thanks again Lance! Your way is way easier brother. I tried it and it works great! Thank you for putting in the time and figuring this out!
Hi brother! Glad you were finally able to do this! I had chatted with you quite a while back and explained that it was indeed possible becuz I had done it myself.. mac pro 5,1 using a single 500gb nvme with open core booting win 11 uefi install, sonoma,ventura monterey, calalina and high sierra all on that one drive..everything except win 11 is APFS which is why u can have so many mac systems using so little space..I notice you are creating a partition for Each mac OS..The beauty of APFS is that you can create multiple Containers which can be formatted and used for multiple mac systems.. these APFS containers Share space yet allow individual seperate installs.. The only time I create another Actual partition is when I am adding windows....... There are 2 Seperate dedicated efi partitions on my nvme, 1 for the mac OS systems and 1 for windows 11 uefi ...I do not use bootcamp...one part of the drive is apfs and the remainder is ntfs .each partition has its own efi...Zero issues with write certificates with the UEFI windows install becauz the windows installer does not have secureboot nor TPM ,its compatible with old computers like the mac pro and becuz there is no secureboot in it, there is nothing written to the bootrom...Ive checked, its clean and a non issue.. I forgot to mention: the win 11 installer I use is created with Rufus and the tpm and secureboot that are usually native are removed...
Two efi is interesting. I will check that out, I believe my second partition is just an APFS container but maybe not. I could delete one and then add a container to the Sonoma container. See what happens. I also know MacSchrauber added a mount efi script in Martin Lo OC package and it comes up with a warning saying you have windows installed, would you like to protect your Mac so that windows will only boot when open core is running I plan to text him and find out exactly what that does and I used Rufus for the MICROSOFT install which removes the TPM and secure boot so how is it that you wind up with two EFI the way you did it. Did you format the whole drive in APFS first?
Also where do you have OpenCore installed?
Thank you very much for your suggestion to install Windows 11 first on that empty NVME. That saved me from a lot of trouble.
In my attempt to install Win10 earlier I‘ve also discovered that BootCamp formats the currently used disk’s partition table to some kind of hybrid MBR/GPT, which leads to an error when selecting the unallocated disk in the Windows Installer. I solved the problem by using GDisk, but I don’t recommend that. Forget BootCamp, especially in case of Win11. It's no longer of any use. Stick to Lance‘s tutorial and you‘ll be good!
Thank you so very much kind sir!
awesome video but you've forgot to mention how to remove the EFI\Boot\Microsoft folder. It is an important step as the process of installing Windows 11 on a NVMe drive writes certificates in the EFI (in ur case, you have OCLP, so, you're protected, but in case of NVRAM reset......) and it can be dangerous for Mac Pro 5,1(risk of brick). Peronnally, I use OpenCore Configurator to do this step easily. It will remove the possibility to boot Windows after directly from the Apple Boot Picker, so, the Mac is "protected" (to check after each updates)
BUt if you delete the Microsoft folder you can no longer see the windows drive in the bootloader?? I have opencore configurator so how do you do it exactly? I know that MacShrauber wrote a script that is included in Martin Lo’s opecore package that will do this for you. It comes up with a warning saying hey you have windows installed would you like to protect it so I can only boot when opencore is booted? You hit disable and you are good.
Great one! It helps a lot thanks!
Super helpfull video, thanks!!
Amazing many thanks
Did you install Mojave also via Open core or Vanilla ? Seem to have issues with OCLP and booting into older OS. Thanks, informative vid.
I already had Mojave installed, OCLP does not support booting into Mojave anymore. You have to hold option at boot and then you can select Mojave but that’s only if you have a boot screen, holding options stops OCLP from loading that’s why I install enable GOP into my boot ram. It gives me apple‘s native boot screen with a generic GPU so you can boot into Mojaveor you can remove your core legacy patcher drive and booed up if you don’t have enable GOP or an Apple GPU you should be able to boot into Mojave, but you will have a blank screen until it gets to the login screen.
Sweet!
Great video, as usual.
I’m going to try and replicate this on my MacPro 6,1 using Samsung T7 drives if possible.
I bought a Caldigit TS3 dock and am using an Apple Thunderbolt 2 cable with the Apple thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter to run the TS3.
Do you think that this plan will work to run Windows 11 and a Linux Distro on a T7?
I have not tried to install Windows on an external drive so not sure. But I have a new enclosure and going to try putting my NVMe that I used here in the video into it and see if I can boot off it.
Haven't watched the video in entirety yet, but can this be done on a Mac Pro 7,1? Thank you!
Is there a BT that supports Hand Off Continuity, all the bells & whistles with Monterey and newer (sequoia) ? Don’t you have a video for it ?
Yes I have a video on it and it works in Sequoia but check out my new video on Bluetooth fix.
Awesome!! Thanks Lance!!! I'm going to try your way next! But I have been doing this for years and my secret weapon is Macrium Reflect!!!!!.. I usually start with 2 partitions in macOS. I then install macOS... I then take a install of win 11 from another drive and using Macrium clone that to the 2nd macOS partition. It is a simpler way for me but your way is great too my friend!
P.S> Do u remember I was trying to get u to switch to oclp for a couple of years? hehe
I do remember but was loyal to Martin Lo until I finally moved up from Monterey because I got my 7,1. Downgrading my GPU just to move up to a more recent OS was not something I wanted to do.
Thanx again Lance. For years I been installing Hyper V on Mac Pro by putting the SSD into another computer to install. I believe I did it MBR & EUFI I think I wrote the Windows Certs on 1 of my Mac Pros because it’s Buggy. The others are rock solid. None of my 3 Hyper V Mac’s have open core. Is it ok if I use the MBR install ? Or do I still risk bricking ?
Download MacSchraubers Rom-Dumo and make a backup of your rom it will give you a report if you have Microsoft certificates. github.com/Macschrauber/Macschrauber-s-Rom-Dump
Thank you for the tutorial. Can this be done on a non-Mac computer? That is, install OpenCore LP on a PC as is? I understand that OCLP is for unsupported Macs. Thanks again.
You need to use Opencore not OCLP for a PC / Hackintosh
Hi and many thanks for this channell. The q: would not be safer or better to use a pci switch card with multiple nvmess and. Have one for mac os and thevothet for Win?
it can't hurt, but the point of this was to show it can be done, so far know issues. Also you need to boot into opencore always before loading windows. There is a way to setup windows so you can't boot it without opencore. Video coming soon.
I see and thanks for the next video
Hi lance I Hope you re fine thank you so much for your hard work and all your vidéos I have something to ask you I wanna install ventura or sonoma on my macpro 5.1 With OCLP but I need to inject ssdt titan ridge for Thunderbolt to use my apollo and uad Thunderbolt satellite in Daisy chaîn like I did with Martin Lo but I get an issue it s stop booting in os While with ocml I had a short reboot and all was connected could you help me to résolve that issue thank you my friend 😊
Have you tried opencore configurator to inject ssdt. I have not tried my Titan ridge with the 5,1 lately, and don’t have any thunderbolt interfaces to test unfortunately. There is also a titan ridge Facebook group.
@@MacSoundSolutions I have made with OC but the SSDT is detected by OCLP but when I plug my2 thunderbolt devices the boot process stop when no thunderbolt devices the os Boot using Martin lo its good
@@2HLPUBLISHINGRECORDSKevinClark what happens if you plug it in after you boot then reboot?
Havent tried
@@2HLPUBLISHINGRECORDSKevinClark try hot pluggin it after a cold boot then reboot.
lance you didnt make any changes to the OLCP install? just a standard 5.1 build? do you not need to turn on the NVME boot?
@@RichieKeane nope no mods to the config, accept if you have a upgraded Bluetooth card. I have a fix for that.
@@MacSoundSolutions yes did the BT upgrade. Have BT no WiFi on Mac WiFi no BT on Win and driving me mad as fixed it before but forgot how…
@@RichieKeane two different fixes, you need to use opencore configurator app to disable the spoofbluetooth.kext that will fix the Bluetooth issue in Mac OS, you have to use the app to mount your opencore efi then scan it and then disable the kext. Windows is a device manager thing but I had issues with Bluetooth not wifi. WiFi works for me, had to use device manager to select a Broadcom card something like that under unknown WiFi or BT devices
@@MacSoundSolutions any reason why it will not fcking go to boot screen if Mcfiver or NVME drive is installed?
Can boot of usb / ssd etc but as soon as I have NVME in it freezes every time after chime and option??
Sorted it… took mcfiver out and single NVME in and started with Mac OS.. now can see the win installer and loading os to NVME…
Somewhere i’m stuck. What i have and did:
Normal 5.1 2012 12core 2.4GHz with Metal GPU and bootscreen. Boot from genuine Mojave; sled 1. NVME installed in PCI slot. Erased the nvme ssd as shown. Partioned and such. Apply. Then i download OCLP and want to install OCLP onto this partitioned NVME SSD. All goes well so it seems but during reboot (still following instructions from Lance) i do the same, hold option, pick EFI boot and then choose Mojave. Lance says it cant and gets an error, mine can… it just boots into Mojave. How 🤷🏼♂️. I then put the power off. Installed windows, that went well. But then i get stuck at installing MacOS on the other partitions... how do i get into that menu? Thanks
Holding option is how you boot into Mojave once opencore is installed as it bypasses opencore. Just booting should boot you into the Opencore bootloader once installed which does not support booting into Mojave. Download the Mac OS installer using opencore and build a bootable USB stick, install Mac OS from that.
My MacPro 5.1 can only boot via NVMe with an MacOS installation USB stick or with a HD in bay 1 also in this format. How do I make NVMe boot on its own?
This is explained in the video. If you only want Mac OS, format the NVMe in APFS and use OCLP to intall the OS.
What is the Newest MacOS you can put on the 2009 4,1 Mac Pro. ( NOT 5,1 )
Mojave is the last supported OS. You may be able to go up to Monterey with OCLP but not sure, mine is a 4,1 with upgraded firmware to 5,1
Yeah, I would love something like that for my Apple products but I guarantee you it’s expensive as hell
MVMe 105.00 for 2Terabyte, PCIe card 15 bucks
Anyone knows how to fix AVX2 unsupported mac(macbook pro mid 2012)on sonoma for installing new photoshop 26 and lightroom?
There is know fix, if the CPU does not support AVX2 it cannot be patched or fixed.
@@MacSoundSolutions Then can not install the new photoshop ver.26 and lightroom 14 on old macbooks even if it is updates to the latest mac os via OCLP. In my case MB pro retina mid 2012. Time for MacBook pro M4 MAX :).
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