I used to service a rig like this for a rodeo cowboy when I ran a mobile service outfit. Sure was a clean rig. Always a pleasure to work on, and that thing was babied its entire life. In my opinion, you cant go wrong with this setup. Great video btbrv as usual!
We have an older show hauler former racing rig. Safest RV you can get! 500hp kenworth nose leading you down the road and show haulers are all steel frame units. That piece of mind is priceless!! Doing a remodel now and only one small slide in the 44ft, but never a worry is worth giving up a few fancies anytime.
Sweet Showhauler. I'd say more on the lines of $500k, and when it comes to their towing capacity, If they have double rear axles then most of the time they have a 40k hitch, and the single axle models only have a 20k.
I've been looking at "Super C" RV's for 2 years now. They are NOT cheap. But, if they are taken care of you cant kill em. I want one so I could tow a boat or my truck with no worries.
Usually 600hp, full welded steel cage (they have proof of a showhauler that had flipped over after a crash and all it had was a bent slide with everything else still perfect so the put it back on it's wheel and drove it home), aluminium exterior side wall vs renegades GRP side wall, You can go as custom as you want with a show hauler unlike renegade where you're limited even on the classic, if you want to save money you can take your own chassis to showhauler for them to build on so you're not spending $150k on a brand new truck chassis. Max price is about $500k with every thing custom and a brand new chassis.
@@kevinbarry71 Volvo used to be the main chassis for most super Cs but since volvo stopped making the 600hp engine last year all the super C manufacturers have moved to the Cascadia chassis but like I said they will build on pretty much any chassis.
TheDestroyer32 the d13 May not go to 600 hp, however, it's still has 1850 pound feet of torque. I think that's sufficient. In my opinion, I would take a little less power for the superior design of the Volvo.
I’ve seen these types of rigs and coaches pulling enclosed trailers to performing art centers and arenas in my area. These conversions have been around since the late 90’s if you want a rolling mansion then here it is.
Thanks for this video. I asked if you were going to do a video and you did. These are awesome the frame of the motorhome are all welded steel. They are made before the it's fitted to the truck frame. Can pull 40,000 lbs behind it. Thats more than 1 ton pick up can tow by it's self. Great video and thanks.
I hope that rig has an air ride system that will lift tail up a bit. It looks like it will drag everytime you turn into a fuel station. Otherwise, we can always dream!
A lot of people do live in their RVs and fifth wheelers in coaches and that is just the truth of it and hey I don't blame them at all there is nothing wrong with it just save a lot of money
If you're able to afford this please take a Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Course. Its wide tall and heavy folks. Get use to the characteristics of the vehicle before driving long distance. 21 yrs. OTR driving. Due diligence goes a long way folks. Be careful driving.
The next time you are in northern Indiana consulting swing by Showhauler for a tour. Totally customizable from donor truck to everything between the front bumper to the massive tow hitch.
I can promise you it doesnt have 40k towing. I'm a trucker, I understand max towing weights, especially since I drive that generation cascadia, as a day cab. As a day cab they have a little over 40k worth of weight they can pull, but with everything they have in that RV, that cascadia's towing capacity, especially with the extended frame and everything else included, has probably closer to 25, maybe 30k if you're lucky. Sure, the truck could haul more, but based on national DOT laws, you'll never be able to. They'd never let you on a road.
@@nathanputz40 They beef up everything underneath. On their 4X4 models they completely replace the undercarriage to handle more weight and more towing capacity. One can't compare it to a standard semi. BTW, one doesn't need a full CDL to drive one since it is an RV.
@@nathanputz40 The Freightliner eCascadia has a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 80,000 pounds. So if they keep the Showhualer at 40k. pounds, then it would have a 40k pound towing capability. But the towing capability goes down with the size and weight of the RV. So say this RV has a 45k GCWR then the owner shouldn't tow more than 35k. But that hitch is still a 40k hitch. It's the owner's place not to break the law by being overloaded.
The expected use of a coach is clearly a consideration. This coach is awesome, but looks to me to be a pavement runner, heavy tow user rig. Long overhang behind rear axle and low rear ground clearance would never work for me but, I could never afford it anyway. Oh well ;-) Enjoy your videos...
True. In Cali that might be the case. But when you figure in the yearly maintenance and gas consumption and property tax. Also when buying this rig you'll pay over $30K in registration and tax fees. Good ol' Cali.
I believe it makes more sense to build an RV on a truck chassis than to build one from an RV chassis bc truck chassis are million mile chassis and can be easily serviced and repaired all over our country. They also cost a hell of a lot less money which mean I have more more to leave my grandchildren!
You should have opened any of the storage bays. What you will discover is you do not get pass through storage. The typical engine in one of these is 500 HP - 600 HP. The transmission is either an Allison automatic transmission or a 12 speed Automated Transmission.
Yes, you have the frame rails running down the sides. And in between those you have a driveshaft. To me, at least, this is better than one of those full frame class A's with tandem axles. It's certainly stronger.
Kevin Barry the second axle on a Class A is nothing but a tag axle,...just there to support weight. The Super C axles can be locked, and actually be of some use, besides just supporting weight.
B&M Land Management Co very true, except the tag axle on the class A can also steer. Helps with maneuverability. This tractor base solution is definitely a little bit less space efficient, however I would take it because of its other advantages.
I like your observation about the a/c and completely agree with you. I'm still puzzled at why these Class Cs always fall down (for me) on the interiors.
If folks cared about 'whisper quiet' A/C units, they'd get em' for their home/apartment first before even considering them in their RV! :-) Seriously...if a in window AC unit doesn't bother you, I'm sure these types of units aren't going to give you Tinnitus! :-)
BTBRV, IWS builds Renegade super C RVs like this in Mountain Home Idaho. I think you and me are both sold on the Sportsman model (if I know you like I think I do, lol) The Sportsman is what I'm saving up for. Yes they're higher end but worth it. 😄😉😄
@@DC-jb7oz good idea to clarify that. Yes, you're right, it's the Showhauler by renegade that has a steel frame, not ALL of the Renegade coaches are made with a steel frame.
Shy of a Prevost Coach...Super C's are my favorite...I'll take this or a similar one from either Renegade or Dynamax over ANY OTHER TYPE OF CLASS A...that includes Entegra and Newmar.
Newmar seems to build more luxury with better floorplans so I'd be curious why they are out of the running for you. I've never liked a coach that didn't put a TV directly across from reclining seating. And you will find few options in Super C's that have such a layout. Renegade does have some though but most of Dynamax floorplans put the TV high and to one side. My neck would never be pain free again... No good!
You didn't tell us very much about this vehicle .What is GV W R? What does it weigh? What size are fuel, fresh water, black and grey water tanks? What horse power? How widespread are dealers for this truck? That's just a few questions, I could ask many more.
Just curious.. while driving down the road with the slides in, it appears you need to climb over the bed to use the toilet. I think I'd put the restroom ahead of the Master bedroom.
Nice but real camping to me is going off road where that thing can't go use that for urban camping. If you have a four wheel drive truck you get one of those off road Caravans are they making Australia it'll cost a lot cheaper and disappear into the wilderness just make sure you have solar panels holds 4 to 6 batteries like the earth roamer
I like this plan is similar to ours because we have a seat with a double slide brand new then we ought to have problems then we've only taking it out free time so I just you can't ever get it right after I don't give a damn what you do that is very discouraging you spend that kind of money and they have all these damn problems but it shouldn't be that way so it's not all roses that it is the way to go if you're going to travel you don't have to worry about hotel rooms all the other restaurants and you got everything at your fingertips and that is just the truth I made is your home on wheels 75 and I've been traveling to trailer since I was 20 years old no actually younger than that I think 19 and I have no regrets at all
I wish he had the length and the gross weight at least. This is after all a semi tractor probably from the factory with a very long extended frame. After that the coach builder builds on behind the cab. For durability and longevity it will be difficult to beat this.
I'm 63 years old living in Iran !!!! This kind of cars doesn't exist in my country!!! I'm so broke and I can't buy one to promote it here !!??? If you have any giveaway cars I do my best to promote it !!!? God bless you and your company.✌️👍🙏🍀
Owners of a rig like this would probably say that it’s a truck conversion and not a Super C. Class 8 trucks are often seen as a step above a Super C. But of course, there’s no official definition. So, different people call it different things.
YES! Finally. Showhauler! I use this for my rodeo rig and love the company and how much custom options you have.
I wish he would have done a more in-depth review of this rig! It’s literally the best one we have seen so far!
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I used to service a rig like this for a rodeo cowboy when I ran a mobile service outfit. Sure was a clean rig. Always a pleasure to work on, and that thing was babied its entire life. In my opinion, you cant go wrong with this setup. Great video btbrv as usual!
We have an older show hauler former racing rig. Safest RV you can get! 500hp kenworth nose leading you down the road and show haulers are all steel frame units.
That piece of mind is priceless!! Doing a remodel now and only one small slide in the 44ft, but never a worry is worth giving up a few fancies anytime.
something this unique deserves another look
Sweet Showhauler. I'd say more on the lines of $500k, and when it comes to their towing capacity, If they have double rear axles then most of the time they have a 40k hitch, and the single axle models only have a 20k.
I've been looking at "Super C" RV's for 2 years now. They are NOT cheap. But, if they are taken care of you cant kill em. I want one so I could tow a boat or my truck with no worries.
Please obi 1 send help for the force. Dont worry
Avoid Freightliner, if at all possible
@@Everetttango1 I'm going Kenworth if possible. I've driven Peterbilt and Freightliner. Never had a problem with either..
I want one so I can tow my Silverado motorcycle and one day a bass boat.
Usually 600hp, full welded steel cage (they have proof of a showhauler that had flipped over after a crash and all it had was a bent slide with everything else still perfect so the put it back on it's wheel and drove it home), aluminium exterior side wall vs renegades GRP side wall, You can go as custom as you want with a show hauler unlike renegade where you're limited even on the classic, if you want to save money you can take your own chassis to showhauler for them to build on so you're not spending $150k on a brand new truck chassis. Max price is about $500k with every thing custom and a brand new chassis.
TheDestroyer32 I wonder if they would build on a Volvo chassis. I suspect they will.
@@kevinbarry71 Volvo used to be the main chassis for most super Cs but since volvo stopped making the 600hp engine last year all the super C manufacturers have moved to the Cascadia chassis but like I said they will build on pretty much any chassis.
TheDestroyer32 the d13 May not go to 600 hp, however, it's still has 1850 pound feet of torque. I think that's sufficient. In my opinion, I would take a little less power for the superior design of the Volvo.
@@kevinbarry71 Yes they will
Put a nice double stacker behind it with my favorite vehicles. Go to all the car shows, auctions and fair's. AWESOME!
I’ve seen these types of rigs and coaches pulling enclosed trailers to performing art centers and arenas in my area. These conversions have been around since the late 90’s if you want a rolling mansion then here it is.
Prevost is the rolling mansion brand.
Thankyou for this video . I love it this RV
Awesome seeing Brian on your channel!
Brian's lawn maintenance my guy
Thanks for this video. I asked if you were going to do a video and you did. These are awesome the frame of the motorhome are all welded steel. They are made before the it's fitted to the truck frame. Can pull 40,000 lbs behind it. Thats more than 1 ton pick up can tow by it's self. Great video and thanks.
2:15 love the his and her sinks!
Love the SuperC...
Really like Showhauler..but also like those from *Renegade* and *DynaMax* ...
This is definitely the best one yet
I hope that rig has an air ride system that will lift tail up a bit. It looks like it will drag everytime you turn into a fuel station. Otherwise, we can always dream!
Jason Murray I noticed that too.
I would love an RV like this.
Or maybe a high end fifth wheel
A lot of people do live in their RVs and fifth wheelers in coaches and that is just the truth of it and hey I don't blame them at all there is nothing wrong with it just save a lot of money
Cool finally got a video of a self powered motor home.
i noticed the same about the ACs also stapled kitchen drawers. for the price i’d expect dovetails. great review thanks
All drawers on Showhaulers have dovetail drawers. At least in the last 10 years or so.
Dang, that is a big truck and a big RV 🥁
I would like to see more Super C reviews if possible
check out chuck @iws rv he has plenty on youtube and hes legit
If you're able to afford this please take a Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Course. Its wide tall and heavy folks. Get use to the characteristics of the vehicle before driving long distance. 21 yrs. OTR driving. Due diligence goes a long way folks. Be careful driving.
Heck yes if on has the funds, the model shown is top of the line.
Very classy, "definitely above my pay grade", too.
I was surprised to see Brian walk through the door. Cool guy in the lawn care community. And that Super C was Beautiful!
The next time you are in northern Indiana consulting swing by Showhauler for a tour. Totally customizable from donor truck to everything between the front bumper to the massive tow hitch.
Good lord that’s a beast and 40k lb towing with that interior wowww
I can promise you it doesnt have 40k towing. I'm a trucker, I understand max towing weights, especially since I drive that generation cascadia, as a day cab. As a day cab they have a little over 40k worth of weight they can pull, but with everything they have in that RV, that cascadia's towing capacity, especially with the extended frame and everything else included, has probably closer to 25, maybe 30k if you're lucky. Sure, the truck could haul more, but based on national DOT laws, you'll never be able to. They'd never let you on a road.
@@nathanputz40 They beef up everything underneath. On their 4X4 models they completely replace the undercarriage to handle more weight and more towing capacity. One can't compare it to a standard semi. BTW, one doesn't need a full CDL to drive one since it is an RV.
@@nathanputz40 The Freightliner eCascadia has a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 80,000 pounds. So if they keep the Showhualer at 40k. pounds, then it would have a 40k pound towing capability. But the towing capability goes down with the size and weight of the RV. So say this RV has a 45k GCWR then the owner shouldn't tow more than 35k. But that hitch is still a 40k hitch. It's the owner's place not to break the law by being overloaded.
4x4 models are 20,000 👀 on the smaller scale single axel .
Love it. Matches the channel name for sure...big truck big rv
Nice. This guy is awesome
Best show you two guys talking was cool love your channel
Can't really compare an *Expedition Vehicle* to any type of Class A RV/Motorhome! Totally *apples-to-oranges!*
IWS does a Show Hauler 'epic' build every year where the answer to the options question is always 'Yes!'. Really worth a look.
😂😂😂😂😂.....
I just commented about IWS in Mountain Home Idaho.
Either you're a local like me or you've done your research, lol
nothing wrong with white and grey for the inside it will open and brighten everything really quick
The expected use of a coach is clearly a consideration. This coach is awesome, but looks to me to be a pavement runner, heavy tow user rig. Long overhang behind rear axle and low rear ground clearance would never work for me but, I could never afford it anyway. Oh well ;-) Enjoy your videos...
Man, if I wanted to watch the front door I would definitely sit on that couch!!!
Cheaper than houses here in California
Yes and then you can roll out of that state
True. In Cali that might be the case. But when you figure in the yearly maintenance and gas consumption and property tax. Also when buying this rig you'll pay over $30K in registration and tax fees. Good ol' Cali.
one of my neighbors has one of these. totally awesome indeed .
I want it!! Please place an order of 2 for me. Do they except IOU's? Great review, thank you.
IOUs you mean a mortgage plus a separate home equity loan for just one of them? Maybe...
@@noahg4038 no joke! Maybe they will take a kidney.
Would be a dream come true to travel across the country for my football #ROADTRIPS in a custom RV like this!!! 🙏🏾😎🖤💪🏾☠🏈💯
I believe it makes more sense to build an RV on a truck chassis than to build one from an RV chassis bc truck chassis are million mile chassis and can be easily serviced and repaired all over our country. They also cost a hell of a lot less money which mean I have more more to leave my grandchildren!
Wow ! 🌟Love it🌟!!!
It sure would be nice
if you could show more
of this ...Truly.
Palace on wheels.
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 !✔
Cool truck
Finally we got to see his new rv.
You should have opened any of the storage bays. What you will discover is you do not get pass through storage. The typical engine in one of these is 500 HP - 600 HP. The transmission is either an Allison automatic transmission or a 12 speed Automated Transmission.
Charles Ramsey I think he tried at the beginning but said they were locked.
Yes, you have the frame rails running down the sides. And in between those you have a driveshaft. To me, at least, this is better than one of those full frame class A's with tandem axles. It's certainly stronger.
Kevin Barry the second axle on a Class A is nothing but a tag axle,...just there to support weight. The Super C axles can be locked, and actually be of some use, besides just supporting weight.
B&M Land Management Co very true, except the tag axle on the class A can also steer. Helps with maneuverability. This tractor base solution is definitely a little bit less space efficient, however I would take it because of its other advantages.
Cool 😎
When i see her on youtube adds i dont even click the skip ad😂😂😂
Definitely above my pay grade. But very nice. Thabks.
should have waited for the expert to come back tomorrow to show it !
That bathroom is awesome!
If I’m getting that, I’m gonna need the giant chrome vertical exhaust pipes
Amazing! Think that would be my choice over a Prevost
That is a really cool 😎 truck dude
25 grand might pay the sales tax and license on this rig. lol And you are going to have a commercial license to drive it.
It is very nice but, it is a couple of steps below my Renegade XL.
Really cool I but I also like the military one too
Which military one?
Would sure be a nice way to travel - thanks for a great review
ED ABRAMS Ed what state are you from my maiden name was Abrams
New York
ED ABRAMS I am from Iowa
sandy clappsaddle
Are you half Irish :)
ED ABRAMS No my dad always said Pennsylvania Dutch
That is the biggest baddest motorhome! I want!!!
Do they make this in toyhauler version?
Yes they can.
Welp, this ends the fifth wheel or motorhome question.. 💖💖💖
I like your observation about the a/c and completely agree with you.
I'm still puzzled at why these Class Cs always fall down (for me) on the interiors.
Saints colors perfect for me....
Toby MT1925 who DAT
@@murphy1907 Yes Sir.. 🏈
That is one sweet rig. Thanks for sharing JD.
If folks cared about 'whisper quiet' A/C units, they'd get em' for their home/apartment first before even considering them in their RV! :-)
Seriously...if a in window AC unit doesn't bother you, I'm sure these types of units aren't going to give you Tinnitus! :-)
You need a slide with in a slide to make more room
Is there a big difference between a Freightliner Cascadia and a Peterbilt 567 chassis? Such as noise, heat, room, power?
The bathroom in the back,
Wow.
Then it should be a bath&1/2 ya?
BTBRV, IWS builds Renegade super C RVs like this in Mountain Home Idaho.
I think you and me are both sold on the Sportsman model (if I know you like I think I do, lol)
The Sportsman is what I'm saving up for.
Yes they're higher end but worth it. 😄😉😄
Showhauler frames are made from 2X3 steel tubing, all welded, no screws. You won't find that in a Renegade. :)
@@DC-jb7oz good idea to clarify that.
Yes, you're right, it's the Showhauler by renegade that has a steel frame, not ALL of the Renegade coaches are made with a steel frame.
Shy of a Prevost Coach...Super C's are my favorite...I'll take this or a similar one from either Renegade or Dynamax over ANY OTHER TYPE OF CLASS A...that includes Entegra and Newmar.
The Prevost is a lot bigger and expensive
Newmar seems to build more luxury with better floorplans so I'd be curious why they are out of the running for you. I've never liked a coach that didn't put a TV directly across from reclining seating. And you will find few options in Super C's that have such a layout. Renegade does have some though but most of Dynamax floorplans put the TV high and to one side. My neck would never be pain free again... No good!
You didn't tell us very much about this vehicle .What is GV W R? What does it weigh? What size are fuel, fresh water, black and grey water tanks? What horse power? How widespread are dealers for this truck? That's just a few questions, I could ask many more.
Big open center with the big open stairway of death LOL
WOW. Amazing.
Wish you would have done a complete review of this one. Does it have a second bathroom?
Just curious.. while driving down the road with the slides in, it appears you need to climb over the bed to use the toilet. I think I'd put the restroom ahead of the Master bedroom.
Why do the Class Super C's always have a lot more towing than Class A's? Is it because the A's are longer, heavier...?
Love it. Want one on a kw cassis.
*cough* Chassis *cough*
Nice but real camping to me is going off road where that thing can't go use that for urban camping. If you have a four wheel drive truck you get one of those off road Caravans are they making Australia it'll cost a lot cheaper and disappear into the wilderness just make sure you have solar panels holds 4 to 6 batteries like the earth roamer
How many potholes can you hit before the tiled bathroom starts to crack?
Lookie here Mom if and we get one of these we don't have to take a dump in a 5 gallon bucket like our old trailer
Man thats neat
No one would cut in front of me again
Jesus Christ take the wheel!
Imagine having to move all those RVs around just to pull one out to test drive?
U don’t just test drive rvs
This is perfect for John Madden
M+Ms-Why?
That is sweet ❤❤
Looks like every other one I have seen
The interior colors are from 1995. My Grandparents would love the look inside. Barf!
Rebel Lucy I agree it’s pretty badly spec interior wise but showhauler has a lot of different color options
@@orangecitrus_6705Oh yea. They added LED lights to make it more modern.
Wow. The best. But video is soo short.
Nice! But I’d be worried about falling down the steps if I wasn’t watching where I was walking.
Michael Brown-In that case that would happen to you no matter what you were driving or riding in.
What about when it breaks down, do u call Triple A ?
I don't think or maybe I'm wrong but if triple a does it that's gotta be a hell of a bill
It would be nice to rent something like that for a couple weeks. Are there any rental agencies that offer something like that?
I like this plan is similar to ours because we have a seat with a double slide brand new then we ought to have problems then we've only taking it out free time so I just you can't ever get it right after I don't give a damn what you do that is very discouraging you spend that kind of money and they have all these damn problems but it shouldn't be that way so it's not all roses that it is the way to go if you're going to travel you don't have to worry about hotel rooms all the other restaurants and you got everything at your fingertips and that is just the truth I made is your home on wheels 75 and I've been traveling to trailer since I was 20 years old no actually younger than that I think 19 and I have no regrets at all
Are the ‘huge’ axles in the back larger than normal for an RV of that size?
I would say closer too $500.000. But if I had the money. I would get it. Do you need to get the fuel permits in each state with that?
No permits for fuel because it is a RV.
Might be time for another super c review
I wish he had the length and the gross weight at least. This is after all a semi tractor probably from the factory with a very long extended frame. After that the coach builder builds on behind the cab. For durability and longevity it will be difficult to beat this.
I’d have no issue overcompensating in this rig
Another great review JD
I'm 63 years old living in Iran !!!! This kind of cars doesn't exist in my country!!! I'm so broke and I can't buy one to promote it here !!??? If you have any giveaway cars I do my best to promote it !!!? God bless you and your company.✌️👍🙏🍀
This is better than my apartment that I pay $2,100 a month for.
Owners of a rig like this would probably say that it’s a truck conversion and not a Super C. Class 8 trucks are often seen as a step above a Super C. But of course, there’s no official definition. So, different people call it different things.
Are you still in Grand Rapids?I live by Crystal Lake.How do you like Michigan?I love this ClassC
I'm from florida but will be in Lapeer next week