I used to service a rig like this for a rodeo cowboy when I ran a mobile service outfit. Sure was a clean rig. Always a pleasure to work on, and that thing was babied its entire life. In my opinion, you cant go wrong with this setup. Great video btbrv as usual!
Sweet Showhauler. I'd say more on the lines of $500k, and when it comes to their towing capacity, If they have double rear axles then most of the time they have a 40k hitch, and the single axle models only have a 20k.
Usually 600hp, full welded steel cage (they have proof of a showhauler that had flipped over after a crash and all it had was a bent slide with everything else still perfect so the put it back on it's wheel and drove it home), aluminium exterior side wall vs renegades GRP side wall, You can go as custom as you want with a show hauler unlike renegade where you're limited even on the classic, if you want to save money you can take your own chassis to showhauler for them to build on so you're not spending $150k on a brand new truck chassis. Max price is about $500k with every thing custom and a brand new chassis.
@@kevinbarry71 Volvo used to be the main chassis for most super Cs but since volvo stopped making the 600hp engine last year all the super C manufacturers have moved to the Cascadia chassis but like I said they will build on pretty much any chassis.
TheDestroyer32 the d13 May not go to 600 hp, however, it's still has 1850 pound feet of torque. I think that's sufficient. In my opinion, I would take a little less power for the superior design of the Volvo.
We have an older show hauler former racing rig. Safest RV you can get! 500hp kenworth nose leading you down the road and show haulers are all steel frame units. That piece of mind is priceless!! Doing a remodel now and only one small slide in the 44ft, but never a worry is worth giving up a few fancies anytime.
I’ve seen these types of rigs and coaches pulling enclosed trailers to performing art centers and arenas in my area. These conversions have been around since the late 90’s if you want a rolling mansion then here it is.
I've been looking at "Super C" RV's for 2 years now. They are NOT cheap. But, if they are taken care of you cant kill em. I want one so I could tow a boat or my truck with no worries.
I hope that rig has an air ride system that will lift tail up a bit. It looks like it will drag everytime you turn into a fuel station. Otherwise, we can always dream!
A lot of people do live in their RVs and fifth wheelers in coaches and that is just the truth of it and hey I don't blame them at all there is nothing wrong with it just save a lot of money
Thanks for this video. I asked if you were going to do a video and you did. These are awesome the frame of the motorhome are all welded steel. They are made before the it's fitted to the truck frame. Can pull 40,000 lbs behind it. Thats more than 1 ton pick up can tow by it's self. Great video and thanks.
You should have opened any of the storage bays. What you will discover is you do not get pass through storage. The typical engine in one of these is 500 HP - 600 HP. The transmission is either an Allison automatic transmission or a 12 speed Automated Transmission.
Yes, you have the frame rails running down the sides. And in between those you have a driveshaft. To me, at least, this is better than one of those full frame class A's with tandem axles. It's certainly stronger.
Kevin Barry the second axle on a Class A is nothing but a tag axle,...just there to support weight. The Super C axles can be locked, and actually be of some use, besides just supporting weight.
B&M Land Management Co very true, except the tag axle on the class A can also steer. Helps with maneuverability. This tractor base solution is definitely a little bit less space efficient, however I would take it because of its other advantages.
I can promise you it doesnt have 40k towing. I'm a trucker, I understand max towing weights, especially since I drive that generation cascadia, as a day cab. As a day cab they have a little over 40k worth of weight they can pull, but with everything they have in that RV, that cascadia's towing capacity, especially with the extended frame and everything else included, has probably closer to 25, maybe 30k if you're lucky. Sure, the truck could haul more, but based on national DOT laws, you'll never be able to. They'd never let you on a road.
@@nathanputz40 They beef up everything underneath. On their 4X4 models they completely replace the undercarriage to handle more weight and more towing capacity. One can't compare it to a standard semi. BTW, one doesn't need a full CDL to drive one since it is an RV.
@@nathanputz40 The Freightliner eCascadia has a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 80,000 pounds. So if they keep the Showhualer at 40k. pounds, then it would have a 40k pound towing capability. But the towing capability goes down with the size and weight of the RV. So say this RV has a 45k GCWR then the owner shouldn't tow more than 35k. But that hitch is still a 40k hitch. It's the owner's place not to break the law by being overloaded.
The next time you are in northern Indiana consulting swing by Showhauler for a tour. Totally customizable from donor truck to everything between the front bumper to the massive tow hitch.
I believe it makes more sense to build an RV on a truck chassis than to build one from an RV chassis bc truck chassis are million mile chassis and can be easily serviced and repaired all over our country. They also cost a hell of a lot less money which mean I have more more to leave my grandchildren!
True. In Cali that might be the case. But when you figure in the yearly maintenance and gas consumption and property tax. Also when buying this rig you'll pay over $30K in registration and tax fees. Good ol' Cali.
If you're able to afford this please take a Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Course. Its wide tall and heavy folks. Get use to the characteristics of the vehicle before driving long distance. 21 yrs. OTR driving. Due diligence goes a long way folks. Be careful driving.
I like your observation about the a/c and completely agree with you. I'm still puzzled at why these Class Cs always fall down (for me) on the interiors.
The expected use of a coach is clearly a consideration. This coach is awesome, but looks to me to be a pavement runner, heavy tow user rig. Long overhang behind rear axle and low rear ground clearance would never work for me but, I could never afford it anyway. Oh well ;-) Enjoy your videos...
You didn't tell us very much about this vehicle .What is GV W R? What does it weigh? What size are fuel, fresh water, black and grey water tanks? What horse power? How widespread are dealers for this truck? That's just a few questions, I could ask many more.
Just curious.. while driving down the road with the slides in, it appears you need to climb over the bed to use the toilet. I think I'd put the restroom ahead of the Master bedroom.
BTBRV, IWS builds Renegade super C RVs like this in Mountain Home Idaho. I think you and me are both sold on the Sportsman model (if I know you like I think I do, lol) The Sportsman is what I'm saving up for. Yes they're higher end but worth it. 😄😉😄
@@DC-jb7oz good idea to clarify that. Yes, you're right, it's the Showhauler by renegade that has a steel frame, not ALL of the Renegade coaches are made with a steel frame.
I wish he had the length and the gross weight at least. This is after all a semi tractor probably from the factory with a very long extended frame. After that the coach builder builds on behind the cab. For durability and longevity it will be difficult to beat this.
Shy of a Prevost Coach...Super C's are my favorite...I'll take this or a similar one from either Renegade or Dynamax over ANY OTHER TYPE OF CLASS A...that includes Entegra and Newmar.
Newmar seems to build more luxury with better floorplans so I'd be curious why they are out of the running for you. I've never liked a coach that didn't put a TV directly across from reclining seating. And you will find few options in Super C's that have such a layout. Renegade does have some though but most of Dynamax floorplans put the TV high and to one side. My neck would never be pain free again... No good!
There will be a narrow passage way down the center with slides in. Depending on how deep the slides are, some manufacturers give you more room than others. But there is always a passage to at least a half bath near the center of the coach. Usually the bed is what blocks further movement to the rear.
Nice but real camping to me is going off road where that thing can't go use that for urban camping. If you have a four wheel drive truck you get one of those off road Caravans are they making Australia it'll cost a lot cheaper and disappear into the wilderness just make sure you have solar panels holds 4 to 6 batteries like the earth roamer
YES! Finally. Showhauler! I use this for my rodeo rig and love the company and how much custom options you have.
something this unique deserves another look
I wish he would have done a more in-depth review of this rig! It’s literally the best one we have seen so far!
instablaster
I used to service a rig like this for a rodeo cowboy when I ran a mobile service outfit. Sure was a clean rig. Always a pleasure to work on, and that thing was babied its entire life. In my opinion, you cant go wrong with this setup. Great video btbrv as usual!
2:15 love the his and her sinks!
Sweet Showhauler. I'd say more on the lines of $500k, and when it comes to their towing capacity, If they have double rear axles then most of the time they have a 40k hitch, and the single axle models only have a 20k.
Usually 600hp, full welded steel cage (they have proof of a showhauler that had flipped over after a crash and all it had was a bent slide with everything else still perfect so the put it back on it's wheel and drove it home), aluminium exterior side wall vs renegades GRP side wall, You can go as custom as you want with a show hauler unlike renegade where you're limited even on the classic, if you want to save money you can take your own chassis to showhauler for them to build on so you're not spending $150k on a brand new truck chassis. Max price is about $500k with every thing custom and a brand new chassis.
TheDestroyer32 I wonder if they would build on a Volvo chassis. I suspect they will.
@@kevinbarry71 Volvo used to be the main chassis for most super Cs but since volvo stopped making the 600hp engine last year all the super C manufacturers have moved to the Cascadia chassis but like I said they will build on pretty much any chassis.
TheDestroyer32 the d13 May not go to 600 hp, however, it's still has 1850 pound feet of torque. I think that's sufficient. In my opinion, I would take a little less power for the superior design of the Volvo.
@@kevinbarry71 Yes they will
We have an older show hauler former racing rig. Safest RV you can get! 500hp kenworth nose leading you down the road and show haulers are all steel frame units.
That piece of mind is priceless!! Doing a remodel now and only one small slide in the 44ft, but never a worry is worth giving up a few fancies anytime.
I’ve seen these types of rigs and coaches pulling enclosed trailers to performing art centers and arenas in my area. These conversions have been around since the late 90’s if you want a rolling mansion then here it is.
Prevost is the rolling mansion brand.
I've been looking at "Super C" RV's for 2 years now. They are NOT cheap. But, if they are taken care of you cant kill em. I want one so I could tow a boat or my truck with no worries.
Please obi 1 send help for the force. Dont worry
Avoid Freightliner, if at all possible
@@Everetttango1 I'm going Kenworth if possible. I've driven Peterbilt and Freightliner. Never had a problem with either..
I want one so I can tow my Silverado motorcycle and one day a bass boat.
Thankyou for this video . I love it this RV
Awesome seeing Brian on your channel!
Brian's lawn maintenance my guy
Put a nice double stacker behind it with my favorite vehicles. Go to all the car shows, auctions and fair's. AWESOME!
This is definitely the best one yet
I hope that rig has an air ride system that will lift tail up a bit. It looks like it will drag everytime you turn into a fuel station. Otherwise, we can always dream!
Jason Murray I noticed that too.
I would like to see more Super C reviews if possible
check out chuck @iws rv he has plenty on youtube and hes legit
Cool finally got a video of a self powered motor home.
I would love an RV like this.
Or maybe a high end fifth wheel
A lot of people do live in their RVs and fifth wheelers in coaches and that is just the truth of it and hey I don't blame them at all there is nothing wrong with it just save a lot of money
i noticed the same about the ACs also stapled kitchen drawers. for the price i’d expect dovetails. great review thanks
All drawers on Showhaulers have dovetail drawers. At least in the last 10 years or so.
Love it. Matches the channel name for sure...big truck big rv
Thanks for this video. I asked if you were going to do a video and you did. These are awesome the frame of the motorhome are all welded steel. They are made before the it's fitted to the truck frame. Can pull 40,000 lbs behind it. Thats more than 1 ton pick up can tow by it's self. Great video and thanks.
Very classy, "definitely above my pay grade", too.
Dang, that is a big truck and a big RV 🥁
You need a slide with in a slide to make more room
You should have opened any of the storage bays. What you will discover is you do not get pass through storage. The typical engine in one of these is 500 HP - 600 HP. The transmission is either an Allison automatic transmission or a 12 speed Automated Transmission.
Charles Ramsey I think he tried at the beginning but said they were locked.
Yes, you have the frame rails running down the sides. And in between those you have a driveshaft. To me, at least, this is better than one of those full frame class A's with tandem axles. It's certainly stronger.
Kevin Barry the second axle on a Class A is nothing but a tag axle,...just there to support weight. The Super C axles can be locked, and actually be of some use, besides just supporting weight.
B&M Land Management Co very true, except the tag axle on the class A can also steer. Helps with maneuverability. This tractor base solution is definitely a little bit less space efficient, however I would take it because of its other advantages.
Heck yes if on has the funds, the model shown is top of the line.
Love the SuperC...
Really like Showhauler..but also like those from *Renegade* and *DynaMax* ...
Good lord that’s a beast and 40k lb towing with that interior wowww
I can promise you it doesnt have 40k towing. I'm a trucker, I understand max towing weights, especially since I drive that generation cascadia, as a day cab. As a day cab they have a little over 40k worth of weight they can pull, but with everything they have in that RV, that cascadia's towing capacity, especially with the extended frame and everything else included, has probably closer to 25, maybe 30k if you're lucky. Sure, the truck could haul more, but based on national DOT laws, you'll never be able to. They'd never let you on a road.
@@nathanputz40 They beef up everything underneath. On their 4X4 models they completely replace the undercarriage to handle more weight and more towing capacity. One can't compare it to a standard semi. BTW, one doesn't need a full CDL to drive one since it is an RV.
@@nathanputz40 The Freightliner eCascadia has a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 80,000 pounds. So if they keep the Showhualer at 40k. pounds, then it would have a 40k pound towing capability. But the towing capability goes down with the size and weight of the RV. So say this RV has a 45k GCWR then the owner shouldn't tow more than 35k. But that hitch is still a 40k hitch. It's the owner's place not to break the law by being overloaded.
4x4 models are 20,000 👀 on the smaller scale single axel .
one of my neighbors has one of these. totally awesome indeed .
IWS does a Show Hauler 'epic' build every year where the answer to the options question is always 'Yes!'. Really worth a look.
😂😂😂😂😂.....
I just commented about IWS in Mountain Home Idaho.
Either you're a local like me or you've done your research, lol
The next time you are in northern Indiana consulting swing by Showhauler for a tour. Totally customizable from donor truck to everything between the front bumper to the massive tow hitch.
nothing wrong with white and grey for the inside it will open and brighten everything really quick
If I’m getting that, I’m gonna need the giant chrome vertical exhaust pipes
Best show you two guys talking was cool love your channel
Man, if I wanted to watch the front door I would definitely sit on that couch!!!
This is beautiful 😍
I was surprised to see Brian walk through the door. Cool guy in the lawn care community. And that Super C was Beautiful!
Nice. This guy is awesome
Cool truck
Would sure be a nice way to travel - thanks for a great review
ED ABRAMS Ed what state are you from my maiden name was Abrams
New York
ED ABRAMS I am from Iowa
sandy clappsaddle
Are you half Irish :)
ED ABRAMS No my dad always said Pennsylvania Dutch
That bathroom is awesome!
Finally we got to see his new rv.
Really cool I but I also like the military one too
Which military one?
I believe it makes more sense to build an RV on a truck chassis than to build one from an RV chassis bc truck chassis are million mile chassis and can be easily serviced and repaired all over our country. They also cost a hell of a lot less money which mean I have more more to leave my grandchildren!
Cheaper than houses here in California
Yes and then you can roll out of that state
True. In Cali that might be the case. But when you figure in the yearly maintenance and gas consumption and property tax. Also when buying this rig you'll pay over $30K in registration and tax fees. Good ol' Cali.
That is one sweet rig. Thanks for sharing JD.
When i see her on youtube adds i dont even click the skip ad😂😂😂
The bathroom in the back,
Wow.
Then it should be a bath&1/2 ya?
How many potholes can you hit before the tiled bathroom starts to crack?
Amazing! Think that would be my choice over a Prevost
That is a really cool 😎 truck dude
Is there a big difference between a Freightliner Cascadia and a Peterbilt 567 chassis? Such as noise, heat, room, power?
It is very nice but, it is a couple of steps below my Renegade XL.
should have waited for the expert to come back tomorrow to show it !
If you're able to afford this please take a Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Course. Its wide tall and heavy folks. Get use to the characteristics of the vehicle before driving long distance. 21 yrs. OTR driving. Due diligence goes a long way folks. Be careful driving.
Wish you would have done a complete review of this one. Does it have a second bathroom?
I want it!! Please place an order of 2 for me. Do they except IOU's? Great review, thank you.
IOUs you mean a mortgage plus a separate home equity loan for just one of them? Maybe...
@@noahg4038 no joke! Maybe they will take a kidney.
Saints colors perfect for me....
Toby MT1925 who DAT
@@murphy1907 Yes Sir.. 🏈
Wow ! 🌟Love it🌟!!!
It sure would be nice
if you could show more
of this ...Truly.
Palace on wheels.
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 !✔
Can't really compare an *Expedition Vehicle* to any type of Class A RV/Motorhome! Totally *apples-to-oranges!*
Definitely above my pay grade. But very nice. Thabks.
I like your observation about the a/c and completely agree with you.
I'm still puzzled at why these Class Cs always fall down (for me) on the interiors.
Why do the Class Super C's always have a lot more towing than Class A's? Is it because the A's are longer, heavier...?
That is the biggest baddest motorhome! I want!!!
Do they make this in toyhauler version?
Yes they can.
The expected use of a coach is clearly a consideration. This coach is awesome, but looks to me to be a pavement runner, heavy tow user rig. Long overhang behind rear axle and low rear ground clearance would never work for me but, I could never afford it anyway. Oh well ;-) Enjoy your videos...
You didn't tell us very much about this vehicle .What is GV W R? What does it weigh? What size are fuel, fresh water, black and grey water tanks? What horse power? How widespread are dealers for this truck? That's just a few questions, I could ask many more.
Just curious.. while driving down the road with the slides in, it appears you need to climb over the bed to use the toilet. I think I'd put the restroom ahead of the Master bedroom.
Nice! But I’d be worried about falling down the steps if I wasn’t watching where I was walking.
Michael Brown-In that case that would happen to you no matter what you were driving or riding in.
Cool 😎
BTBRV, IWS builds Renegade super C RVs like this in Mountain Home Idaho.
I think you and me are both sold on the Sportsman model (if I know you like I think I do, lol)
The Sportsman is what I'm saving up for.
Yes they're higher end but worth it. 😄😉😄
Showhauler frames are made from 2X3 steel tubing, all welded, no screws. You won't find that in a Renegade. :)
@@DC-jb7oz good idea to clarify that.
Yes, you're right, it's the Showhauler by renegade that has a steel frame, not ALL of the Renegade coaches are made with a steel frame.
Show haulers are nice had one pull in to camp one day in R.I that would be my retirement home but ya cant offered it
Matt DOE-If it can be built it can be offered for sale.
Big open center with the big open stairway of death LOL
What about when it breaks down, do u call Triple A ?
I don't think or maybe I'm wrong but if triple a does it that's gotta be a hell of a bill
Love it. Want one on a kw cassis.
*cough* Chassis *cough*
I dont have a whisper quiet aur conditioner and you can still sleep with it unless your used to quiet air conditioner
This is perfect for John Madden
M+Ms-Why?
How much room in there when the slide outs are in going down the road
Welp, this ends the fifth wheel or motorhome question.. 💖💖💖
I wish he had the length and the gross weight at least. This is after all a semi tractor probably from the factory with a very long extended frame. After that the coach builder builds on behind the cab. For durability and longevity it will be difficult to beat this.
Wow. The best. But video is soo short.
25 grand might pay the sales tax and license on this rig. lol And you are going to have a commercial license to drive it.
Lookie here Mom if and we get one of these we don't have to take a dump in a 5 gallon bucket like our old trailer
WOW. Amazing.
Shy of a Prevost Coach...Super C's are my favorite...I'll take this or a similar one from either Renegade or Dynamax over ANY OTHER TYPE OF CLASS A...that includes Entegra and Newmar.
The Prevost is a lot bigger and expensive
Newmar seems to build more luxury with better floorplans so I'd be curious why they are out of the running for you. I've never liked a coach that didn't put a TV directly across from reclining seating. And you will find few options in Super C's that have such a layout. Renegade does have some though but most of Dynamax floorplans put the TV high and to one side. My neck would never be pain free again... No good!
I’d have no issue overcompensating in this rig
No headboard?
It would be nice to rent something like that for a couple weeks. Are there any rental agencies that offer something like that?
I'm looking for a 23 to 28 foot toy hauler
Another great review JD
Forgive me if I sound dumb but ... how do you move around the inside of that, while going down the road, with the slides in?
There will be a narrow passage way down the center with slides in. Depending on how deep the slides are, some manufacturers give you more room than others. But there is always a passage to at least a half bath near the center of the coach. Usually the bed is what blocks further movement to the rear.
Nice but real camping to me is going off road where that thing can't go use that for urban camping. If you have a four wheel drive truck you get one of those off road Caravans are they making Australia it'll cost a lot cheaper and disappear into the wilderness just make sure you have solar panels holds 4 to 6 batteries like the earth roamer
Are the ‘huge’ axles in the back larger than normal for an RV of that size?
The interior colors are from 1995. My Grandparents would love the look inside. Barf!
Rebel Lucy I agree it’s pretty badly spec interior wise but showhauler has a lot of different color options
@@orangecitrus_6705Oh yea. They added LED lights to make it more modern.
No one would cut in front of me again
Jesus Christ take the wheel!
Might be time for another super c review
Imagine having to move all those RVs around just to pull one out to test drive?
U don’t just test drive rvs
How much it is
Is this rig still for sale?
Are you still in Grand Rapids?I live by Crystal Lake.How do you like Michigan?I love this ClassC
I'm from florida but will be in Lapeer next week
Wont the tiles crack over time?