WFHeadphones Pt. 1 - Meze 99 Noir vs Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro vs Audio Technica ATH-M50x
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2020
- My cheap tripod keeps aiming down ever so slightly. Sorry for the weird framing as the video goes on.
Working From Headphones Series, Episode 1: The best wired headphones to get for work under $200.
Headphones:
Audio Technica ATH-M50x
www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVLUR86
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro (80 ohm)
www.amazon.com/dp/B0016MNAAI
Meze 99 Noir
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Great and informative review thanks a lot! I will most probably be purchasing the Meze 99 Noir's from Massdrop very soon. I do like the idea of non-fatiguing smooth sound stage. While the DT 770's sound amazing and mentioned everywhere, I do see a few mentions of fatiguing treble.
Very useful comparative review. I liked your evaluation categories and particular listening context . Helpful for both experienced and newbies listeners. Do consider adding time-stamp guide for each headphone; useful reviews I go back and listen to for specific comments you offer. Thanks for providing some unique commentary for different types of headphone listening, not just products.
Love your format. Other reviewers make sound the last. It’s my most important.
If I had been asked to recommend a work headphone I never would have thought of the Meze, but you are completely right, they are perfect for that role.
Great job, enjoying your videos so far!
i like your video style. pretty chill and calm, which is quite hard to do without chill-genre background music
Can you recommend, in your opinion, closed back headphones with the best possible(most realistic) transients? Love your videos, my new favorite hi fi channel. Your descriptions of the sound qualities of products are the most practical of all reviewers for me, as a musician. You also actually talk about transient response, which is so often overlooked! Thank you for doing what you do!
Had some ATH-M50s back in the day. One of the hinges broke after about 2 years, replaced it with the ATH-M50x. About a year after that my brother decided he wanted some, he needed new headphones and had tried mine and liked them so he got them. Another year later, same hinge broke. Two years after my brother go his, what would you know... same hinge. I got some Sennheiser HD 599 after that, it's been 4 years with these and they're great, not problems at all and I love the sound. Starting a work from home job soon so I'm in the market for closed back headphones again, found your video very helpful
Keep up the good work man
A pretty good review, it helps me to definitely go for the Meze, although the Beyerdynamic attract me by their definition, in closed headphones I look for something more fun in my listening. Greetings, by the way could you make a review of the SONY MDR Z7?
i love your sense of humour monsiuer, another french word for you 😂
Amazing review! Pretty accurate and fair comoaration!
I agree with Rafael. Always.
Stellar review. Did you get the right ear connection problem with the Meze's resolved? Very curious how that turned out, thanks
Good review, cool shirt. Might check out those Meze 99s
Daing. Meze 99's sound promising since I'm basically working from home for the foreseeable future. Need something comfortable and all-around good sounding for extended periods of time. Thx for the review! Curious to hear about the wireless Bose 700...
They bose are good, but the meze's are so fun. They are so friendly to your ears if you are sensitive to fatigue.
Meze's are fun fun fun and so gentle on your head. The ultimate non critical desk cans. I use these and then for critical listening I might switch to my planar magnetics, but I do that less and less these days.
The noir is a 300 dollar can that can be had be from massdrop for 200.
Amazing. Second pair on the way!
Thnx a lot for your videos man...Please look into reviewing violectric v200 or v280 if possible.
Love your videos. SUBBED!!
Nice to hear your appreciation about the m50x. I still do love the sound on those, with originals earpads.. The velour's aren´t my favorites.
I have the DT770 16ohms Special Edition to. They sound really great and easy to drive.
16ohm? You mean 32ohm?
@@morespinach9832 there is indeed 16 ohm version of DT770
@@morespinach9832 he said special edition you missed that :)
Which pads did you use for the 99 Noir? The stock pads, or the smaller pads?
Can you compare audio technica ath msr7b's. They cost same as dt770.
I'm getting the mazes. I already have the DT770s and they are really good.
Which was the best for you ?
what i was looking for
I’ve tried a bunch of headphones including the meze 99s and ath m50x, in the end I sticked with the meze 99s but with a balanced cable, it makes them sound so much better! cheers great video !
Hey! please I need your help. So I want a comfortable closed back on ear headphone to use with a digital piano as well as a stylish general audiofile enjoyable experience that I can walk around with.. I don't mix/produce music. I just want a natural, enjoyable soundstage experience. I don't like the beyerdynamic 770s they're too studio looking. I also don't like audio technica headphones. I find them too flat and not engaging. The akg k361/k371 seem like a good choice but I don't trust their reliability.. I will be trying out the sivga 006 soon to know if they might fit. Other headphones I'm considering are the Meze 99, Focal listen pro, Shure Anoic 50 and mackie MC-350. Please feel free to recommend any other pair.. My budget goes to $250 what pair would you recommend I get? Is there a do it all pair I can get? Should I just get one pair for playing piano/Rhodes and another for enjoyment..? 🙏
How’s sound stage and imaging compared to dt 770s? I primarily game
I would like to know about that meze mid tier upcoming headphone...
Any more info?
this is a true story. i was lost. hungry. broke. not a single penny to my name. in fact, i had no name. people would just grunt and throw a rock at one of my many exposed ribs whenever they wanted to get my attention. i was at my absolute wit's end. i was just about to give into society's will and pick up a book and learn to read. but right then and there, i caught a glimpse of the midfi guy channel playing on an ipad at the radio shack i live in. his zest for life and passion for ATH-M50x turned my life around. i threw that dumb book away and i even gave myself a new name. "mabel." i'm now... mabel. thank you for everything, midfi guy!! love, your best friend, mabel.
I really love the DT 770. They are so damn good. Fun, impressive and ''hifi''(technically good, detailed) at the same time. Best thing about them is the soundstage. Whenever i wear them i feel like i'm in a very good movie theater. I bought DT 1990 in search of even better DT 770 but it turned out big disappointment for me. Despite being open back DT 1990 has much smaller, closer soundstage makes you overwhelmed. Treble peak is ridiculous. Mid bass emphasis is headache inducing.
DT 770 is very old legendary headphones but i think they are underrated among audiophiles. Combined with comfort, build quality and price they are one of the best in the planet.
BTW i also hate M50X too. They were so popular couple of years ago. When i tried them i was like WTF ??? However i like big soundstage so it played a big role why i didn't like their sound. They sound like in ear headphones. But even bigger dealbreaker was the comfort. They are torture devices. Even 5 years old M50X made you uncomfortable lol. Imagine brand new one.
LOL @ torture devices. I could seriously see that after an hour or so
DT770 are great in their price if not the best I always say that :) but Meze wins in few aspects for me by that I mean build quality, detachable cables possible to go balanced, super comfortable and very easy to drive. To be honest I was expecting 99 Noire to sound worse than it is 😅 for sure they have too much bass(its boomy and bleed into mids), soundstage is smaller than 770, highs are ok not harsh. Like everyone else said 99 Noire is fun headphone and you can always swap pads, equalize it or try other amp/dac combo to change the sound :)
Super review. You’d have the same reaction with Sony’s wireless cans as you did with mc50.
@@soulfulfool tried Meze. Meh sound. Very coloured and bass heavy. In that price range NAD HP50 is superlative.
@@morespinach9832 not my style, I wanted them as they are, its my 6th pair of headphones every one got their own character :)
i very confused people been saying that the dt 770 pros are bad and others say it good should i get them i only need them to hear music and game with them im also upgrading from some beats solo hd ive had for like 8 years help me
Gosh Darnit, I just can't decide which one to get
Most other reviews say that the bass on the DT770's is tame. Many say that the treble is overbearing.
Most reviews say that they have a lot of leakage when recording.
Pretty much the opposite of your conclusions.
That said, I just ordered a pair of the 250 Ω , primarily for voiceover work.
One thing that almost everyone agrees on, is that they are the most comfortable headphones.
That's important when you're doing long-form work, such as an audiobook.
Bullshit is what they say I had 250 ohm version, sold it because my left driver rattle at very low freq, non less on stock pads bass was solid and well controlled & trebles was clear very clear never too harsh for me. Problem with 250 Ohm is that they need lot of power and I kind of disliked headband + velour pads felt very cheap for me. Now I kind of miss that beyer sound but got plenty of other headphones, for sure one day I will own beyers again :)
Sorry you had to redo this one. I can't stand it if I have to retype an email! :) It turned out great though!
Thank you! I wanted to redo it a 3rd time due to the sliding tripod mount but said f it haha
I wish my HD 280 or the ATH m40x would work for me, but they don't, this first one because it gives me ringing ears (on low volumes), and the latter due to it being way too big on my tiny head (and tiny ears).
I see the denafrips on the right, will you compare it with the rme?
Yes, and two more DACs. You wouldn't happened to have a Bifrost 2 you could lend me would you? :-)
Today I received the 770 and can't confirm the V sound. It is incredibly flat, I was really shocked at first. Albeit, they aren't completely flat, "high" highs can stick out, but that's something you'll get used to, the bass is quite quiet, though.All in all they are really balanced and it shows that they are reference headphones. A lot of old, handmade music, without too much bass sounds amazing, like, truly amazing. Sadly, the left driver crackles at higher volume bass, which is why I return them. I ordered the Mezea's, too, to compare them both myself ands what fits my needs the best. I want to make music but don't feel the 770 just yet. Maybe the next, non-broken pair.
excuse the spelling mistakes, but I can't be bothered correcting them
who told you that 770 are V shaped? they are pro sounding headphones, Meze are fun with elevated bass shelf, for me they are more comfy than 770 and better built
@@soulfulfool he said it in this video
Had to return mine too as they crackled also, very disappointing because they sounded pretty good otherwise
I love my Noir. Replace the default/large cups with smaller pads and it sounds so much better with tighter bass and mid and treble details come out.
Which pads did you buy?
And how have you been doing with the Meze?
@@AndersonHH. guess he used smaller pads that came with them stock, they have 2 pairs out of the box
I love the Meze 99s. If you can find them used, they are a steal
im waiting for mine pair but didnt get them much cheaper (180$) but im not from USA so I saved on taxes etc + seller got customized cable for it, kind of worry about bloated bass but we will see, cant buy those from drop (at least w/o waiting) so they are unique
@@soulfulfoolany updates?
@@Versette dont have it anymore, bass was way to bloated for my taste, some tracks with light bass notes sounds good with that overdone bass but mostly it was weird, hd6xx is better option
I heard that the meze sounds better with the balanced cable is that true? Sorry for my english
everything sounds better on balanced since headphones gain more power, I'm waiting for 99noir and already checked out balanced cable from china 16core silver plated for like 38$ thats a steal and I already have cable from them pure silver for my HD600 its quality thing for low price 👍
@@soulfulfool Thanks!
The hate the M50s get is preposterous. It's often criticized for having to much bass, but the 770 actually has more bass in the frequency response than the M50s. The 770s also share an almost identical mid frequency scoop and the problems with comfort and soundstage on the M50s can be remedied by buying larger, thicker pleather earpads.
You also can't beat them in terms of a portable headphone due to their low impedance, detachable cable, super resilient (not necessarily the greatest) build, the sound isolation, and the foldability/flexibility. I have the BT version and they're just terrific for commuting, wear them everyday at work. Throw those stock earpads away tho, I hate them.
My dt770pro 80ohms stab at my eardrums with treble. Now I'm looking for something else.
Dekoni manufactures real leather sheepskin ear pads for the Meze.
M50 has no soundstage, boomy bass and kind of nasty highs - they are just not very good imo. I wonder why they were so hyped back in the day vs something that actually works ok like the DT770 80ohm. I've owned both, M50 not anymore though. The Beyers have their flaws also, like the peaky treble and lacking mids, but yeah.
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I think people like me hyped the M50's. I came from Skullcandy and Beats so they were incredible in comparison. They were my introduction into good audio.
I guess I'm quite randomly asking but does anyone know of a good website to stream newly released movies online ?
@Kason Kyrie I use flixzone. Just search on google for it =)
@Colten Ben Yup, been watching on flixzone for years myself :D
The look of the ATs is enough to say no. I want my headphones to last a long time, look how much wear those can have!
Waiting Wa22..😁
You and me both!
great video! definitely do more affordable headphone videos in the future! As great as $1000 dollars headphones are, not everyone can afford them :(
Noted!
These aren’t $1,000 there like $200 , very affordable
Best headphones for hip hop such as drake? Thank you so much!
Edit: I wrote that before I even watched the video, and then literally when I pressed play you said that you listened to drake on repeat. What a freaking coincidence.
I saw your comment and edited the video!
@@MidFiGuy ahahahhahaha
@@MidFiGuy but have you tried any headphones that sound amazing and non fatiguing for Drake because I have him on repeat too! Thank you so much!
Who is Drake?
@@soulfulfool artist of the decade according to billboard
For home music recording / monitoring dt770s or Mezes?
DT 770 Pro for sure, they are made for this purpose. I just got the 80 Ohms version and I'm very happy with them. I even like them better than the DT 700 Pro X and the DT 770 Pro X LE, and I also preferred them over the AKG K-361 and the Sennheiser HD 280 Pro which I also tested. Bass is slightly more present compared to most other headphones (only the DT 770 Pro X LE has stronger sub bass), treble is just right, nice and airy without being shrill, and the mids are present and pretty even. Add the wide soundstage and you get all the details of your recording laid out in front of you, very revealing, but still a joy to listen to if you're not recording. The excellent comfort is also something you want from recording/monitoring headphones. I use them mainly for practicing and recording bass guitar.
The bass on the ath-m50 is great, but a little boosted compared to other headphones. Also, they are very uncomfortable ESPECIALLY with glasses on! They hurt badly after 10 minutes with glasses on.
I don't wear glasses, however, M50 are the most comfortable headphones for my head. I can wear them forever without fatiguing. Which only proves that everything about sound (and around) is hightly subjective.
More comfortable by a mile - Audioquest Nightowl
Romania here :)) but I chose the m40x and the k702 and also the hd 599
Nice reviews, for Meze i think the 99 classics are the go to.
Also found a new gem, ath sr30bt after the burn in period equals to a couple of days, oh man, at that price for portable and wirless headphones they deliver!
so whats the best the best of the three
mezes
Saying that the Audio-Technica M50x headphones only play sound in the middle of one:s head is absolutely false. I would say that most of the sound coming from the AT M 50x headphones seems to come from outside one's head.
Actually occasionally I have had the experience of hearing what sounds like. 3-demensional sound from the AT M 50 x Headphones and no I do not drink alcohol or consume drugs
I have no recent experience with the DT 770 headphones
The opposite is true of the Audio-Technica M,50 x headphones which I own as of about 3 week.ago
I very much enjoy their sound quality
If you have pretty much anything with old pleather that is peeling and flaking, just commit to it's deterioration and peel it off. Face it, it looks like garbage in the current state and it will flake crumbs everywhere, and in this case, crumbs in your hair. Peel off the vinyl and then use a stiff brush to scrub off any leftover glue. Underneath is usually a grey microfiber that, once cleaned from glue, looks nice and pleasant. Really, it can't possibly be worse than crumbling pleather. Yes, this applies to all pleather, including jackets, bags, headphone bands and even furniture. Yes, all pleather will eventually suffer the same fate. No, there isn't anything you can do to restore it.
it depend what price bracket you aim, my LCD 2C pads are made from fake leather but believe me its solid and dont gonna break any soon, for ~200 or bellow you got shit there you are absolutely right
Impedance actually has nothing to do with how loud they will sound and if you need an amplifier, but sensitivity has! If your phone or laptop can produce loud enough sound on 250Ohms DT770 I'd pick 250Ohms variant as that will drain your battery the least.
had 250 ohm ver and they are really power hungry if you wanna listen something louder
that twitter comment did not age well
Thank you for this review.
On a side note, if you are going to mention other reviewers' (DMS and Zeos) hatred towards a product perhaps you should actually watch their reviews instead of stating the other reviewers hate these "for whatever reason". They have very well argumented reasons for liking or disliking products. Also, their ears are trained well enough to be able to make such arguments.
The issue with the audio technica is it became very popular and when things become popular and mainstream, it becomes popular to claim that they are bad. Then morons who like to adopt other people's opinions repeat it online as if they arrived at that opinion themselves. It is currently fashionable to claim that the Sony xm4 is the worst sounding headphone and that the Koss Porta Pro or KSC75 is the best sound under $100. Goons.
The funniest part is that some audiophiles will shit on the M50s and then jerk off onto the 770s which actually measure extremely close to the ATs, even being a tad more bass and treble boosted which is what they criticize the M50s for. A decent pad swap can fix most of the comfort and soundstaging issues present in the M50s.
Maybe next time actually test the exact model you're trying to review?
The 250/80/32 models of the DT770 aren't exactly the same....
Rated down, as you're misinforming consumers here.
He mentioned these are easy to drive. So 32ohm. It's not misinformation at all. Stop being a D.