I do all the arithmetic in my head while I run working out different paces and finish times in miles and k . I don't get it right, but it keeps me busy 🤣🤣
+1! something to do whilst running. Bonuses for guessing how many ml are left in the water bladder when out on the trails. And calculating how many metres elevation gain you'll end up with. And my personal favourite - what the strava effort score will be.
Hey! you were talking about women running! I think women running is literally in its super long honeymoon phase where records are being beaten in the last 30 and so years when women are taken much more seriously as elite athlete. And I still think that there is so much more records to be broken in many years in the future and possibly bring that gendered fitness gap closer as we understand more about women body and fitness (still a LONG way from understanding that). 50 years ago (Katherine Switzer at Boston), women was physically stopped from running major races and now I'm so happy that those women pave the way that I can run and be there for myself.
I also ran the Copenhagen half in 1.25.25. Was never a PB attempt as I only knew I was even going at the end of July when I celebrated my 50th birthday. My wife with the help from a running mate had booked me on to it and what a great weekend it was. It was a warm day for the half, great atmosphere and support but I honestly thought thought the route was boring as hell.
Rick was the star of the running channel vlogs this week (sorry all the rest) as Andy said emotional and I have only been following for a couple of years. Regarding times , Manchester which is a great UK marathon, but has a high variance in paces per wave , which is troubling as there are one or two choke points in the first 10 miles. It is a shame they do not reference something like the power of 10 , which and then allow 10second per mile / 6 seconds per km variance for estimated times.
Ran and finished the Buenos Aires Marathon: when registering, putting down a finish time is difficult; you could have had a bad previous marathon which lowers your confidence. Mo's comment about putting a time with proof is good. I would just consider the last three races (with proof), as there may have been some ups or downs in one of the last few races. Rick, huge congrats on your 10km! This is a great achievement, and we look forward to seeing you on the road as much as behind the mike!
This is why Garmin RaceScreen and equivalent watch faces/modes on other watches are so useful. They allow you to sync your watch's distance when you walk past a km/mile marker along the course so that your time prediction and paces are all correct. I would never trust my watch with something like that.
Hey guys, thank you for answering my question about the injury on the easy runs. One thing I notices is that you called me Nicky and she, but my name is Nick and the last time I checked I'm still a man😂. Thank you again, I really enjoyed the podcast!
You are not alone! As long as you don’t give up, you will meet your goals! Great job! You’re running my hometown marathon! It’s great! You’re going to love it!
I ran the Copenhagen Half Marathon this year. It was so hot! I collapsed 50-100 meters from the finish line, according to my GARMIN. I don't remember the last kilometer at all. The next thing I remember I am lying in the medic tent and being told that my body temperature is 41.5C, so I was cooled with ice. I had very severe cramps in my calves due to dehydration. After an hour and a half the temperature had dropped so I could go home. But I am ready again next year 😎
The temperature of 22 degr. C doesn't sound like all that much. But the humidity was intense. And with all those runners cramped together in those closed in roads, the shifting of air was extremely low. I've run in much higher degr. heat than this, but all the factors that makes a running climate, just made this years Copenhagen Half difficult for runners. The problem was evaporating heat from your body. After 13K I personally had to slow dramatically. Not due to muscle fatique, but because my head literally boiled over. At the waterstations I poured water over my head and drank a little and I ran trough every shower there was. But it only cooled for a very short time. Several people collapsed around me, and I read that almost 50 people collapsed in all. Many of them actually well trained runners.
Did my first hm recently at 26°C in the sun, no shade. - I didn´t expect it to affect me this much. Finished like 10 minutes later than expected but it at least taught me some things about mental strength xd
Good job! In Cologne at the start we had to run through a narrowing the recent years, which results in a complete stop just after running for 30m from the start. Weird planning since this narrowing is made of setup barriers.
I'm running a half marathon for the first time in April. I didn't know what to put when I signed up so I just picked a 3 hour finish time. My original plan was to just run a lot until the day comes. Instead I shall be visiting this channel frequently for tips.
Argh. Had Moe said he was going to come to Copenhagen, then I had had the posibility to hook him up with some danish runners that where going to aim for 1:20. Sparta has gotten a lot of critike concering the start area, and the first part of the rute. Belive that there will be some changes next year.
The starting procedure with the coloured markings for estimated runningtime, was "sjit"! The baloon-system is worthless, when there is that many runners, all lining up at the same time. Ending up near your correct time area is mostly just luck, and as allways, five minutes before the start, everybody mooves forward..., for some bizar reason..., making everything even more cramped and making sure that you will never end up in the correct timezone. If they in the future expect up to 35000 runners, this needs to change to a system with staggered starting times (Like done in Royal Run). And a much earlier starting time than 11.15!!!
I think most people even amateur put a faster time as they want to be near the front. The amount of times I’ve seen bottlenecks from people being in the wrong pens.
Rick like: "You'll remember me when the west wind moves Upon the fields of barley You'll forget the sun in his jealous sky As we walk in fields of gold..."
90% of my runs are on (the more trail-y) trails of the South downs way, I didn't even notice any grass lol. There was much more road than I was hoping for. Each to their own I suppose.
The distance you run in a race and the race distance are rarely the same. One needs to run faster than the distance pace to achieve the actual clock time for the event. This is just how road racing works, and why strava best efforts and pbs are never the same.
Ooh people starting way too high up the order for their running ability is a running pet peeve of mine. At a fairly large local half marathon recently, with suggested starting zones rather than official waves, the race organiser without singling anyone out repeatedly implored the large number of clearly slower runners to move back out of the sub 1:30 zone, but somehow none thought this applied to them. The race starts, everyone's bumping into eachother, several runners are getting proper ratty, and I and quite a few others are forced into running the first 3 or 4 Ks like 60-90s per km slower than goal pace, plus burning energy by putting in bursts to take our chance to get through Like yeah races are supposed to be fun, but it's also about testing what you're capable of and getting some tangible payoff from the training you've put in, and it's very hard to have fun whilst frustrated that you've been prevented from doing the thing you've trained hard to do by thoughtlessness of others It's dangerous too in that it forces large crowds to bunch together and squeeze through tight gaps. One trip and fall could cause multiple serious injuries. And it benefits absolutely no one - what is even the motivation?
@@infocuslearning I like your thinking and I do agree, but just to play devil's advocate... I've ran many races where therer are only KM or mile markers and some where the markers are only every 2 or similar!
In regards to entering your time, in triathlon you enter your expected time for the swim. I do think people put down quicker times. I recently did a pool based tri and when i got into the lane and chatting the people in the lane they all said therly were doing it in about 20min for the 750m swim. I usually do it in 15min. I couldnt beleive they put down quicker time. I thinks it so people start earlier to get home sooner. If that makes sense
@@runningchannel I did quite a bit of running in previous decades but I'm quite happily cycling now. Still its fun to watch you all challenging yourselves and many of the concepts cross over.
On trails, don’t paths change as they get walked on and worn in? And naturally people cut corners and it reduces the trail length? Say over 10 miles it could be hundreds of meters?
First half marathon coming up this Saturday, been working my ass off. This morning out of nowhere, my knee started hurting. I’ve looked up several different knee injuries due to running, mines right on top of the knee cap (patellar). Been icing it and taking some meds, any suggestions or something? I’m pissed…
I finding the slow running awkward and more injury prone, but am following the HR zones on the watch and slowing down when it beeps at me (slowing down feels forced). Is there a tolerance on the HR zone where I can run a little quicker and still get the benefits of the training in that zone. Being 40+ now injuries come more easily and I'm trying to build up my training to see what is the best I can be.
I don't really get why people will start in a faster pen then they are capable of running. Is it not demoralising to be overtaken by hundreds of people? But yeah, I think generally newer runners (especially at big marathon and half marathons) over estimate their ability when they sign up
This episode showed me you can get through without Sarah sassing you out and it still be entertaining. Id love to see this kinda of discussion and focus, and less "lol andy old" "poo poo when running haha" from sarah
I just ran my first sub 2hr half marathon today during a tropical storm!
-I started running in March of this year.
I do all the arithmetic in my head while I run working out different paces and finish times in miles and k . I don't get it right, but it keeps me busy 🤣🤣
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Me too! I’m in the process of switching to KM and spending great deals of time converting and getting it wrong 😂 but like you say, it passes the time.
😆 I write my household To-Do list in my head, then happily forget it later.
🙄🏃♀️✏️🗒
+1! something to do whilst running. Bonuses for guessing how many ml are left in the water bladder when out on the trails. And calculating how many metres elevation gain you'll end up with. And my personal favourite - what the strava effort score will be.
My quickest half marathon is 1:35:44. Hoping for sub 90 minutes in January after another year of training.
Hey! you were talking about women running! I think women running is literally in its super long honeymoon phase where records are being beaten in the last 30 and so years when women are taken much more seriously as elite athlete. And I still think that there is so much more records to be broken in many years in the future and possibly bring that gendered fitness gap closer as we understand more about women body and fitness (still a LONG way from understanding that). 50 years ago (Katherine Switzer at Boston), women was physically stopped from running major races and now I'm so happy that those women pave the way that I can run and be there for myself.
I also ran the Copenhagen half in 1.25.25. Was never a PB attempt as I only knew I was even going at the end of July when I celebrated my 50th birthday. My wife with the help from a running mate had booked me on to it and what a great weekend it was. It was a warm day for the half, great atmosphere and support but I honestly thought thought the route was boring as hell.
Be proud of your time, don't look for excuses because you didn't make it. There's always a next time
Yay, I got mentioned by Andy! Looks like he misses the teasing. Keep us right Andy. Thanks for all the lovely content. Well done guys.
Rick was the star of the running channel vlogs this week (sorry all the rest) as Andy said emotional and I have only been following for a couple of years. Regarding times , Manchester which is a great UK marathon, but has a high variance in paces per wave , which is troubling as there are one or two choke points in the first 10 miles. It is a shame they do not reference something like the power of 10 , which and then allow 10second per mile / 6 seconds per km variance for estimated times.
I ran my first race today - a half marathon in 1:57, it was hot but very exciting. Trained around 6 months for this.
Congrats!
I have my first half marathon in Leicester in a weeks time. Going into it with 4 weeks training and hoping for a sub 2 hour.
I always put down my target time, as in what I intend to run. There’s no point being with a wave that’s much faster or much slower on the way out.
Ran and finished the Buenos Aires Marathon: when registering, putting down a finish time is difficult; you could have had a bad previous marathon which lowers your confidence. Mo's comment about putting a time with proof is good. I would just consider the last three races (with proof), as there may have been some ups or downs in one of the last few races. Rick, huge congrats on your 10km! This is a great achievement, and we look forward to seeing you on the road as much as behind the mike!
Well done, Andy, Rick and Mo!! 👊🙌👍 Nancy from Vancouver, British Columbia Canada
I was pretty confidant I could break 80 this spring and ended up running 1:20:44, so I feel this. We'll get it next time.
This is why Garmin RaceScreen and equivalent watch faces/modes on other watches are so useful. They allow you to sync your watch's distance when you walk past a km/mile marker along the course so that your time prediction and paces are all correct. I would never trust my watch with something like that.
Hey guys, thank you for answering my question about the injury on the easy runs. One thing I notices is that you called me Nicky and she, but my name is Nick and the last time I checked I'm still a man😂. Thank you again, I really enjoyed the podcast!
Oops, sorry!
You are not alone! As long as you don’t give up, you will meet your goals! Great job! You’re running my hometown marathon! It’s great! You’re going to love it!
The telegram comment was too funny! Great video, appreciate all you do for the running community!
Yes! Much prefer this new trio ! Thanks guys
Did Mo say his time? I feel like I missed it in the conversation. Congrats to him either way! His sub 3 hour marathon video is inspiring.
1:20:52
@@Rareos oh awesome! Thank you
@@Rareos Weirdly, he actually mentions it in this video at 20:52!
I can definitely relate to the last question, always get hamstring niggles on really slow runs but much feel more comfortable going slightly quicker.
I ran the Copenhagen Half Marathon this year. It was so hot! I collapsed 50-100 meters from the finish line, according to my GARMIN. I don't remember the last kilometer at all. The next thing I remember I am lying in the medic tent and being told that my body temperature is 41.5C, so I was cooled with ice. I had very severe cramps in my calves due to dehydration. After an hour and a half the temperature had dropped so I could go home. But I am ready again next year 😎
Coming back from injury and getting back 80min half is my goal. I like the 80min in 80days challenge!
The temperature of 22 degr. C doesn't sound like all that much.
But the humidity was intense.
And with all those runners cramped together in those closed in roads, the shifting of air was extremely low.
I've run in much higher degr. heat than this, but all the factors that makes a running climate, just made this years Copenhagen Half difficult for runners.
The problem was evaporating heat from your body.
After 13K I personally had to slow dramatically. Not due to muscle fatique, but because my head literally boiled over.
At the waterstations I poured water over my head and drank a little and I ran trough every shower there was.
But it only cooled for a very short time.
Several people collapsed around me, and I read that almost 50 people collapsed in all.
Many of them actually well trained runners.
Did my first hm recently at 26°C in the sun, no shade. - I didn´t expect it to affect me this much. Finished like 10 minutes later than expected but it at least taught me some things about mental strength xd
i wonder how you people would fare in marathon races here in India
Good job! In Cologne at the start we had to run through a narrowing the recent years, which results in a complete stop just after running for 30m from the start. Weird planning since this narrowing is made of setup barriers.
I'm running a half marathon for the first time in April. I didn't know what to put when I signed up so I just picked a 3 hour finish time. My original plan was to just run a lot until the day comes. Instead I shall be visiting this channel frequently for tips.
Argh. Had Moe said he was going to come to Copenhagen, then I had had the posibility to hook him up with some danish runners that where going to aim for 1:20.
Sparta has gotten a lot of critike concering the start area, and the first part of the rute. Belive that there will be some changes next year.
The starting procedure with the coloured markings for estimated runningtime, was "sjit"!
The baloon-system is worthless, when there is that many runners, all lining up at the same time.
Ending up near your correct time area is mostly just luck, and as allways, five minutes before the start, everybody mooves forward..., for some bizar reason..., making everything even more cramped and making sure that you will never end up in the correct timezone.
If they in the future expect up to 35000 runners, this needs to change to a system with staggered starting times (Like done in Royal Run).
And a much earlier starting time than 11.15!!!
I think most people even amateur put a faster time as they want to be near the front. The amount of times I’ve seen bottlenecks from people being in the wrong pens.
Does it really matter if you ran 18 or 18.5 miles? Train to time, not distance (unless you're on the track). Especially on the trails!
Nice to see Andy's old race spikes just to the right of him.
Ha he’s not that old.
Rick like:
"You'll remember me when the west wind moves
Upon the fields of barley
You'll forget the sun in his jealous sky
As we walk in fields of gold..."
That field at the New Forest 10k was horrendous I had exactly the same feeling. Long grass uneven ground and sapping the legs!
90% of my runs are on (the more trail-y) trails of the South downs way, I didn't even notice any grass lol. There was much more road than I was hoping for. Each to their own I suppose.
The distance you run in a race and the race distance are rarely the same. One needs to run faster than the distance pace to achieve the actual clock time for the event.
This is just how road racing works, and why strava best efforts and pbs are never the same.
Ooh people starting way too high up the order for their running ability is a running pet peeve of mine.
At a fairly large local half marathon recently, with suggested starting zones rather than official waves, the race organiser without singling anyone out repeatedly implored the large number of clearly slower runners to move back out of the sub 1:30 zone, but somehow none thought this applied to them. The race starts, everyone's bumping into eachother, several runners are getting proper ratty, and I and quite a few others are forced into running the first 3 or 4 Ks like 60-90s per km slower than goal pace, plus burning energy by putting in bursts to take our chance to get through
Like yeah races are supposed to be fun, but it's also about testing what you're capable of and getting some tangible payoff from the training you've put in, and it's very hard to have fun whilst frustrated that you've been prevented from doing the thing you've trained hard to do by thoughtlessness of others
It's dangerous too in that it forces large crowds to bunch together and squeeze through tight gaps. One trip and fall could cause multiple serious injuries. And it benefits absolutely no one - what is even the motivation?
Tip: turn off auto lap and press the lap button when you pass the course markers
What if you pass a marker and forget to press it?!
@@tegid99 Skip that one, then divide the next split by two
@@infocuslearning I like your thinking and I do agree, but just to play devil's advocate... I've ran many races where therer are only KM or mile markers and some where the markers are only every 2 or similar!
@@tegid99 Yeah. That's annoying!
1 hour 37 minutes is my quickest half marathon
Ya-red Na-goose is an important name to know how to say these days :) The man is an incredible athlete!
Great episode more Mo pay that man
Great Podcast. Are they Andy's old spikes behind him 😂
Ha. Yes, he’s very, very old.
In regards to entering your time, in triathlon you enter your expected time for the swim. I do think people put down quicker times. I recently did a pool based tri and when i got into the lane and chatting the people in the lane they all said therly were doing it in about 20min for the 750m swim. I usually do it in 15min. I couldnt beleive they put down quicker time.
I thinks it so people start earlier to get home sooner. If that makes sense
I did the Copenhagen Half Marathon too. I was a small bit slower than Mo though :)
I enjoy this podcast, and I don't even run.
Wow! Praise indeed. Have we persuaded you to give it a go yet? :)
@@runningchannel I did quite a bit of running in previous decades but I'm quite happily cycling now.
Still its fun to watch you all challenging yourselves and many of the concepts cross over.
faith kipyegon will no doubt break the 5k WR next season.
On trails, don’t paths change as they get walked on and worn in? And naturally people cut corners and it reduces the trail length? Say over 10 miles it could be hundreds of meters?
First half marathon coming up this Saturday, been working my ass off. This morning out of nowhere, my knee started hurting. I’ve looked up several different knee injuries due to running, mines right on top of the knee cap (patellar). Been icing it and taking some meds, any suggestions or something? I’m pissed…
I would like to share the podcast with my friends; however, the majority cannot understand English properly...
I finding the slow running awkward and more injury prone, but am following the HR zones on the watch and slowing down when it beeps at me (slowing down feels forced). Is there a tolerance on the HR zone where I can run a little quicker and still get the benefits of the training in that zone.
Being 40+ now injuries come more easily and I'm trying to build up my training to see what is the best I can be.
Obviously varies, but how much over 'watch distance' should you expect to run in a mass start 1/2 marathon?
We're not sure what you mean?
Did my first, got 1:17. Hoping to do 1:12 this winter!
I don't really get why people will start in a faster pen then they are capable of running. Is it not demoralising to be overtaken by hundreds of people? But yeah, I think generally newer runners (especially at big marathon and half marathons) over estimate their ability when they sign up
And the women's marsthon record has just (today) been smashed by 2 minutes!
This episode showed me you can get through without Sarah sassing you out and it still be entertaining.
Id love to see this kinda of discussion and focus, and less "lol andy old" "poo poo when running haha" from sarah
22 C is a hot race? Brits are weird 😂