We got up close with one of the Mercury reps at the palm beach boat show and he gave us some detailed information when it comes to these epic V12s Pretty cool motors video came out cool.
Love the design of the Scout family of boats, that wide bow flare should help keep everyone fairly dry when offshore. The same as many (most?) of your viewers the thing that stops me cold at getting a new boat is the Almighty George. _ONE_ of the new Verado engines has a higher MSRP than what I paid for my _house_ ! . Maybe you could pass this question on to the Mercury and Scout engineers if you don't have an answer. Why didn't they set the outboards farther apart? Seems like that would enhance low speed maneuvering and limit turbulence interference between the two drives when at high speed.
@@brandonnelson4164 I'm not thinking about _that_ much of a spread, just putting the (as shown) inner mounting bolts where the outer ones are. Say an extra 18-24 inches of separation. Although even going to an extreme, you could always use longer (deeper) shafts like they do currently with the outboard engines on quint and sextuple installs.
@@michiganengineer8621 You want to make sure that the props stay in the water when turning. Also, if the engines aren't perfectly synchronized and run at slightly different RPM, then the boat will naturally turn towards the side with the slower prop, and the farther apart the props are then the greater this torque will be. But with modern ECUs with engine synchronization, that really shouldn't happen. Another important argument is that you have more usable transom space (at least in the corners) if you place the engines as close together as possible in the middle of the transom.
It doesn't hurt that they are close together as the engines don't turn, only the lower end. Having engines as close to center will enhance the ride and leave a better wake for trolling
These engines target different markets. The 450R is a race engine and is nearly half the weight of the 600. The 600 is designed for getting large boats up to speed quickly and quietly while reducing the number of engines hanging off the transom.
33% more power = 5% more speed. Diminishing returns. Also R450 weights about 300 kg and 600 V12 600 kg. Which do you think would be more reliable in the long run? Big displacement heavy engine with twin propeller or compressor charged race engine?
Depends. The Yamaha 425 XTO weighs 975 pounds wet, so trading 300 pounds for 175 hp on a 30,000 pound hull is a good tradeoff. Plus the variable pitch dual props and 2 speed trans are designed to give both holeshot and top end on these heavy hulls.
Outside on the lake, still wearing a mask. Smh. Take your freaking mask off so we can all hear what your saying, you're alone outside. We will all assume you've been vaccinated and not worry about catching a virus from a UA-cam video.
Servicing mechanics nightmare regardless of what the service intervals are. The Verados are problematic enough, combining a V12 with a two speed gearbox and bastard stepchild of a Zeus pod for gearcase & steering is inviting failure. Combined with a lack of inperson training from Mercury you have a motor I wouldn't take for free.
@@petersouthernboy6327 how far ahead is Mercury’s technology? I thought back in 2016-18 Yamaha had the drop on them. Little did we know what was going on behind closed doors. All these new Mercury’s are incredible. My 2015 150 is one of the finest motors I have ever owned, and by God’s game I had my share. Blessings
@Michael Reynolds ZF has been building marine transmissions and gearcases for decades now. The V-12 is built on the now proven V-8 architecture. The trim/ tilt and steering are more accessible on a lower "pod" than they are on a conventional outboard midsection
@@FishinSucks Lake X is a man made lake by Mercury Marine... it's their "secret" testing lake ... I am sure that iis just stagnant water with a lot of vegetation decay
Nice video, great to hear the engines and not music. They sound awesome. That is one beautiful boat too. Thanks for the review.
Glad you enjoyed it
InstaBlaster...
Those engines are running so smoothly wow mercury really knows how to produce outboards
Still can't get over the size of those things! 600 V12!!! Damn outboards are getting crazy!
Those engines are beautiful.
We got up close with one of the Mercury reps at the palm beach boat show and he gave us some detailed information when it comes to these epic V12s Pretty cool motors video came out cool.
Also may i add what a beautiful beautiful boat
amazing boat with amazing mercury engines 600
Love the design of the Scout family of boats, that wide bow flare should help keep everyone fairly dry when offshore. The same as many (most?) of your viewers the thing that stops me cold at getting a new boat is the Almighty George. _ONE_ of the new Verado engines has a higher MSRP than what I paid for my _house_ !
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Maybe you could pass this question on to the Mercury and Scout engineers if you don't have an answer. Why didn't they set the outboards farther apart? Seems like that would enhance low speed maneuvering and limit turbulence interference between the two drives when at high speed.
The motor has to be in the water to push the boat. Putting it on the corners it’s going to come out of the water.
@@brandonnelson4164 I'm not thinking about _that_ much of a spread, just putting the (as shown) inner mounting bolts where the outer ones are. Say an extra 18-24 inches of separation. Although even going to an extreme, you could always use longer (deeper) shafts like they do currently with the outboard engines on quint and sextuple installs.
@@michiganengineer8621 You want to make sure that the props stay in the water when turning. Also, if the engines aren't perfectly synchronized and run at slightly different RPM, then the boat will naturally turn towards the side with the slower prop, and the farther apart the props are then the greater this torque will be. But with modern ECUs with engine synchronization, that really shouldn't happen. Another important argument is that you have more usable transom space (at least in the corners) if you place the engines as close together as possible in the middle of the transom.
It doesn't hurt that they are close together as the engines don't turn, only the lower end. Having engines as close to center will enhance the ride and leave a better wake for trolling
21st century water travelling. Well done mercury
Perfect multi-purpose boat.
Appreciate the annotation...great vids.
Ça, c'est du moteur !!! Yessssss !!! 😯😎👍
Hearing that gear change 5:27
You can hear the engine some but I hear the boat slicing through the water over those engines so they have to be incredibly quiet
There were engines in the video? Scouts are amazing.
That's my dream boat.
This is my favorite boat !!
2 speed transmission babyyy
One of the best boats ever built...
Wow!!
pretty
I don’t get it more HP and the speed increase is not much more than twin 450R.. Somebody help me to understand why the speed has not doubled!
These engines target different markets. The 450R is a race engine and is nearly half the weight of the 600. The 600 is designed for getting large boats up to speed quickly and quietly while reducing the number of engines hanging off the transom.
33% more power = 5% more speed. Diminishing returns. Also R450 weights about 300 kg and 600 V12 600 kg. Which do you think would be more reliable in the long run? Big displacement heavy engine with twin propeller or compressor charged race engine?
WTH, y'all are outside in the fresh air, whats with the masks??
is that lake made of coca cola?
You noticed that also.
Nice but that large console windscreen is a waste of space plus a pain to clean 🧼 guess you can climb in there
😍😍🤪
do you wear that mask in the shower
These motors are being snatched up by the Cartels , drug runners , smugglers !
1mill boat
You don't need your mask on. You're on UA-cam
I think twin 600 would weigh more and cost more than triple 400 (or 450s for that matter)
Depends. The Yamaha 425 XTO weighs 975 pounds wet, so trading 300 pounds for 175 hp on a 30,000 pound hull is a good tradeoff. Plus the variable pitch dual props and 2 speed trans are designed to give both holeshot and top end on these heavy hulls.
1160 pounds for that merc, ea.
Outside on the lake, still wearing a mask. Smh. Take your freaking mask off so we can all hear what your saying, you're alone outside. We will all assume you've been vaccinated and not worry about catching a virus from a UA-cam video.
4 easy payments of $234,000 lol
yeß
Servicing mechanics nightmare regardless of what the service intervals are. The Verados are problematic enough, combining a V12 with a two speed gearbox and bastard stepchild of a Zeus pod for gearcase & steering is inviting failure. Combined with a lack of inperson training from Mercury you have a motor I wouldn't take for free.
Says a man from Suzuki or Yamaha...
@@davidweigel2238 That's funny. You have no idea what I do for a living.
With 7Marine out if the picture and Yamaha's offshore lineup topped at 425 - Mercury will sell every one of these that they build.
@@petersouthernboy6327 how far ahead is Mercury’s technology? I thought back in 2016-18 Yamaha had the drop on them. Little did we know what was going on behind closed doors. All these new Mercury’s are incredible. My 2015 150 is one of the finest motors I have ever owned, and by God’s game I had my share. Blessings
@Michael Reynolds ZF has been building marine transmissions and gearcases for decades now. The V-12 is built on the now proven V-8 architecture. The trim/ tilt and steering are more accessible on a lower "pod" than they are on a conventional outboard midsection
Whats's with the water? It looks like Coke. Disgusting.
lake water...
I was thinkin the same thing . None of the lakes here in the midwest look like that . That looks nasty .
@@FishinSucks Lake X is a man made lake by Mercury Marine... it's their "secret" testing lake ... I am sure that iis just stagnant water with a lot of vegetation decay