Ranking the Studio Albums: Kamelot
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- Опубліковано 1 вер 2020
- Join Pete Pardo and special guest co-host Rich Catino (Metal Asylum/Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles/Metal Hall of Fame) as they rank the studio albums of US symphonic power/prog metal veterans Kamelot. #kamelot
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My ranking would be something like:
1) Poetry for the Poisoned
2) Epica
3) The Black Halo
4) Karma
5) The Fourth Legacy
6) The Shadow Theory
7) Silverthorn
8) Haven
9) Ghost Opera
10) Siege Perilous
11) Dominion
12) Eternity
Great video and discussion, as always!
1.) Epica
2.) Karma
3.) The Black Halo
4.) The Fourth Legacy
5.) Ghost Opera
DeadSeaGenesis pretty much my order. Although The 4th Legacy is underrated.
Mine is almost the same but i'd swap Fourth Legacy and Ghost Opera around. Also Silverthorn and Heaven are very good as well.
Another band i need to check out. Pete, my wallet needs a break! You make me discover so many bands!
Enjoyed the show love hearing about a band I never heard presented with such passion. Looking forward to exploring the catalog. Well done guys 👍
The Black Halo is ALWAYS gonna be #1. This one was a great show, man. I had the pleasure of my band Scarz Within supporting, sharing the same stage with Kamelot in Northern Va. during the Ghost Opera tour. That was one of the best nights of my life being in a band.
Thank you soooo much for Ranking the Studio Albums of: Kamelot. 🎤🎸🎵🥁
I hadn't thought of ranking these guys. I'm thrilled!
Excellent Pete,
1,Karma
2,The Fourth Legacy
3,Epica
Anyone with a Grave Digger shirt gets a thumbs up from me.
Thanks for the mutual Grave Digger love. Would live to do an album ranking for them.
Talk about riffs, solos quality of compositions Alex Ritt has to be up there with the best.
According to Thomas Youngblood Mark Vanderbilt still lives in Florida and is a plumber.
Plumber Lives Matter!!!
The 4th Legacy is my favorite. it was my introduction to them and is still my go-to for the band. Karma and Epica are a close second.
I have and love alot of Kamelot's music!!🎤🎸🎵🥁
My ranking would be:
1. The Black Halo
2. Haven
3. Epic
4. Karma
5. The Fourth Legacy
6. Ghost Opera
7. Silverthorn
8. Eternity
9. The Shadow Theory
10. Poetry for the Poisoned
11. Dominion
12. Siege Perilous
"On second thought, let's not go to Camelot, it's a silly place."
Finally was able to make the time to watch this episode. Man this was great! Really really dig Kamelot. The first I heard of them was a DVD actually. I bought One Cold Winter's Night because a friend at the record store recommended it and was blown away. Then I got into Ghost Opera and Black Halo, which are my two favorite albums. The recent albums are wonderful as well. A pretty solid band making absolutely fantastic power metal. Hey Pete, it would be great if you could do some shows on Epica, Nightwish, Blind Guardian, Gamma Ray, Stratovarius, Rhapsody of Fire, Iron Savior, Sonata Arctica... it's great to hear your take on power metal. Great show you guys!!
One of my Favorite bands. And they are so good live. And probably my favorite album is Ghost Opera. The first album that got me hooked on them.
Cool Kamelot rankings. Enjoy your enthusiasm for music. Makes me wish you'd rank Therion albums
Hey, one of my top 5 favorite bands! Great to see.
I’m fairly new (5 or 6 years) to this band, but that new live CD/DVD I Am The Empire is awesome.
Haven got me into Kamelot and Arch Enemy, even when Alissa had just joined AE and already knew of her with The Agonist. and then I got to listen all their catalogs, with the different vocalist they've both had. So I really love this album.
Great ranking video of a great band!
One of my favorite bands of all time, not a bad one in the bunch in my opinion, thanks for doing this...Karma is in my top ten songs of all time
This band is unbelievable and so, so talented.
I only own The Black Halo. Back then, it seemed like a broadway show set to guitars with overdrive and drums. Seemed disconnected musically to the topics of the songs. I revisited the album and it has aged well, but it is still too happy for me. Still, happy to see these guys getting mention. They are a great band.
Thanks guys. Pete! Ranking the albums....Testament. Overdue,
( you did a top 10 songs).
Welcome RICH to ( in my opinion) PETES LEGENDARY show SOT! 💯👍
Thank you
Rich at the Metal Asylum / tremendous job 👍💯
@@garyjoyce2160 I'm excited for the next one in a couple weeks
Rich at the Metal Asylum / I think I can speak for PETES CULT” ( lol). We love Knowledgeable Music 🎶 Junkies like yourself! We will be waiting patiently! Stay safe!! 💯👍
@@garyjoyce2160 thank you! Appreciate the compliment
1. Epica
2. The Black Halo
3. Haven
4. Karma
5. Ghost Opera
My number one and two are by far the best. Must add that the best album is the live one ”One cold winter’s night”, wich also was released as a DVD. Fantastic performance!👍
Kamelot is such a great band. I miss Roy Kahn but they are still great with Tommy Karevick. It's a shame they don't have a bigger following - they are the Rival Sons of metal, as far as deserving larger venues to play.
1. The Black Halo
2. Ghost Opera
3. Poetry for the Poisoned
4. Karma
5. Silverthorn
6. Haven
7. The Fourth Legacy
8. Epica
9. The Shadow Theory
10. Siege Perilous
11. Dominion
12. Eternity
Kamelot and Rival Sons - you have great taste, man!
@@crusheverything4449 Thanks man! You do too!
Need an Extreme ranking Pete :) will be nice and quick
Good idea!
I think I'm gonna bust out Black Halo this weekend when I'm on the deck with some beers on ice. It's been a while.
Sounds like a plan!
My top 5:
1. Karma
2. The Black Halo
3. Epica
4. Poetry for The Poisoned
5. Siege Perilous
I introduced a lifelong Savatage superfan to Kameot, and I told them Kamelot was almost like a continuation of Savatage, and they said "I hate to say this, but Kamelot is better."
Not that I entirely disagreed, but it was shocking to hear! Both of us grew up on Savatage and thought they were metal gods!
Anyway, my list
11) Eternity
10) Dominion
9) Siege Perilous
8) Haven
7) The Fourth Legacy
6) The Shadow Theory
5) Karma
4) Ghost Opera
3) Silverthorn
2) Epica (I love the band and the album)
1) The Black Halo. Completely flawless. Maybe one of my favorite albums ever.
That was actually really tough (other than Black Halo, easy pick on that one) Also, the bottom 3 were fairly easy, but the rest are pretty much all tied for 2nd. SO many amazing songs! This band is so underrated. I know a lot of fans are Roy or bust, but both him and Tommy are incredible!
Savatage and Kamelot are my two favorite metal bands.
One of the best power metal bands!
1. Karma (2001)
2. Epica (2003)
3. The Black Halo (2005)
4. Haven (2015)
5. The Fourth Legacy (1999)
6. The Shadow Theory (2018)
7. Silverthorn (2012)
8. Ghost Opera (2007)
1. Karma
2. The Black Halo
3. Epica
4. Haven
5. Ghost Opera
6. The Fourth Legacy
7. Silverthorn
8. Poetry for the Poisoned
9. The Shadow Theory
10. Siege Perilous
11. Dominion
12. Eternity
Underrated band!!! KAMELOT ROCKS. Have you heard Enchant(band)
yes, of course.
@Pete Pardo, have you ever heard of a metal magazine called Transcending The Mundane? It was based in N.Y. somewhere and it was free and came with a c.d. I'm pretty sure they don't exist anymore. But they'd be worth checking out. 😁
1. Silverthorn (I absolutely adore this one).
2. Epica
3. The Black Halo
4. Haven (interchangeable with 5)
5. The Shadow Theory (Interchangeable with 4)
6. Ghost Opera
7. Karma
8. The Fourth Legacy
9. Siege Perilous
Haven't really listened enough to poetry for the poisoned and the first two to rate them. Mostly because I've been stuck on Silverthorn.
Personally not a big fan of Vanderbilt's vocals but I think his era has it's place. When I first discovered Kamelot, Roy was still singing for them and I fell in love with his image and voice. The Black Halo was and is an amazing album. However, over time, I think I have found that I enjoy Tommy's voice more. It's so smooth compared to Roy's voice, who was definitely more operatic in his inflections. I think Tommy's first album, he definitely seemed to be trying his best to sound like Roy. I really couldn't tell the difference for a long time. But the more time he has had with the band, I think he has really bloomed into his own with them. I really love how each vocalist's era is distinct from each other. I was going to try to rank the albums but I'm not certain I can do it acurately.
Would love to see you ranking the Nightwish, Sonata Arctica and Epica albums.
Great band, seen a couple of times LIVE in Greece with Roy on vocals.
1. Karma
2. Black halo
3. The Fourth Legacy
4. Silverthorn
5. Epica
I have never been too much into power metal, but have been following this band since the beginning (as I do with a lot of bands whether I like them or not). I am more into progressive rock and progressive metal and it is no real surprise that ' the black halo' is an absolute favorite of mine. Start to finish, such a great album. I also like Seventh Wonder quite a bit as well. Also a band I followed since their debut. Also Tommy's work with Ayreon is amazing as well.
Just found out that they put out a live album on August 14th! I am the Empire (Live From the O13).
Thanks for this.. Black Halo is epic as is Karma
I did this exercise recently with a friend. I can't remember the order that I put them in then, but I can't imagine it has changed much!
1) Ghost Opera
2) Epica
3) The Black Halo
4) Silverthorn
5) Karma
6) Poetry for the Poisoned
7) Haven
8) The Shadow Theory
9) The Fourth Legacy
10) Eternity
11) Dominion
12) Siége Perilous (the only one I don't really like very much at all)
Metal never stopped in europe it just dissapeared from TV and radio who focused on the Grunge shit and brittpop. Some american band got famous here before they got a name in the US.
My favorite Kamelot albums are
The fourth legacy and Epica.
What's everyone's favourite song(s) by Kamelot?
Mine- Across The Highlands, Nights Of Arabia, Glory & Descent Of The Archangel
I am with Pete: The Black Halo for #1. I love that album! I wish he's do a Nightwish ranking.
Pete - Would you consider doing a show on Nightwish or Within Temptation ?
Stoked for this, big and long time Kamelot fan. Hard to pick a favorite, but I'd probably have to pick the Black Halo. Not to pick on anyone's choices, but this dude needs to re-listen to Ghost Opera. It was a grower, but it's better than everything after it, IMO. And Pete ranking the newer albums better than Karma?! Oh well. Still love you, dude lol. I thought i remembered Pete saying the last few albums were bland, but i must be wrong.
Nope, I have always completely dug the newer albums.
KAMELOT!!! Finally. Agree for the most part with Pete's rankings. The Black Halo was my intro to Kamelot. And it would be my #1 without question. I was sad to hear of Roy's departure but ecstatic when I found out who his replacement would be. I've been a Seventh Wonder fan for years and love Tommy's voice. And I'm so glad he stayed with SW as well and is still recording music with them. I think the first 2 albums (Kamelot) are terrible so they would definitely be at the bottom. But overall, Kamelot is a great band. Love their stuff.
Conception ranking please...
😛💞Hell yaa
Yes!!!!
Power Metal Represent !!!!!
First of all a Grave Digger shirt, cheers brother... 1) Black Halo 2) Karma 3) Dominion 4) Fourth Legacy 5) Siege Perilous 6)Epica 7) Eternity. Love the first two. We are not seperate still remains my favourite Kamelot song
Siege Perilous over Epica? To each his own, I suppose.
@@crusheverything4449 epica is an "uneven " album for me. Some great songs and some not so good
@@Rolf2112 - Just curious - which songs do you deem “not so good”?
Really like Center of the Universe and Wander. After that, I believe in total the Black Halo is far better
@@Rolf2112 - I love both albums start to finish, but I do give The Black Halo a slight edge. I love Wander, btw - awesome song!
I cannot rank these albums because i have never heard a lot of these albums. However, The Black Halo would be my number one anyway. This is a borderline masterpiece IMO. I also have Ghost Opera and Poetry for the Poisoned.
1. The Black Halo-Masterpiece. Just a great album and an album that you must listen to wholly to fully enjoy it.
2. Epica-Another great one. First tour I saw them live. Awesome experience
3. Karma-The Elizabeth saga alone lift this one up to legendary status.
4. Poetry for the Poisoned-Great swan song for Khan. He still has it here.
5. The Fourth Legacy-This is when Kamelot became Kamelot. I think it took Khan getting involved with the writing to achieve this.
6.The Shadow Theory-Fantastic album and my fav Tommy album by far. Everything came together here.
7. Siege Perilous- Kamelot was still trying to get its sea legs under them. It wld come in the next album.
8. Haven-Solid album. I do admit that I am partial to Khan fronting the band.
9. Silverthorn-Tommy has been a good replacement. I remember seeing them on this tour. Tommy had some of the same mannerisms as Khan. A bit unnerving.
10. Ghost Opera-My least fav Khan album by far. Preachy dreary album. On this tour, the mic went out during one of the songs and it took them a little while to get the sound back. Poetic for how I felt about this album.
11. Dominion
12. Eternity
Wow, man - you’re so spot-on with your list and comments, it’s like I wrote it!!
1. Karma. 2. The Black Halo. 3. The Fourth Legacy. 4. Ghost Opera. 5. Poetry for the Poisoned.
They're an incredible live band if you haven't seen them.
Before I watch this video,
Epica is my favorite Kamelot album, and top 5 album of all time.
Cool vid. Any love for W.A.S.P? Take care
I have seen and heard that Pete isn't a fan of WASP. Or Guns N Roses
13)dominion
12)eternity
11)silverthorn
10)siege perilious
9)poetry for the poisoned
8)the shadow theory
7)haven
6)the awakening
5)the fourth legacy
4)karma
3)the black halo
2)epica
1)ghost opera
Pete, I'm with you that Eternity is a better album than Dominion. Vanderbilt and Youngblood did have a band together after Khan took over Kamelot vocals, but then Kamelot became huge and Youngblood had no time for anything else. I was a big Kamelot fan until around 2007, when my tastes started drifting into heavier and more underground music. I think the poor production leads to Siege Perilous being overlooked, but it is also part of its charm, as with Rush's Signals. These days, Siege Perilous is probably my favorite Kamelot, as they dumbed-down their sound a bit for The Fourth Legacy. They started adding back the complexity with Karma, and reached a peak, IMHO, on Epica (my other favorite), before losing some of their edge with The Black Halo. I moved on after Ghost Opera, though I do agree that The Great Pandemonium is a good song. I have no opposition to Tommy being in the band, it's just that I don't really listen to Power Metal these days. I am glad that I still get to see Casey Grillo drum, now that he's with Queensryche.
i'm watching this for the first time and I screamed "NOOOO how dare you?!" when Rich put Ghost Opera as his number 11. Noooooo. it's my fav (well second fav really) b/c it's around the time I discovered the band shortly after The Black Halo.
1) The Fourth Legacy
2) Epica
3) Karma
4) The Black Halo
5) Silverthorn
6) Haven
7) Ghost Opera
8) Siege Perilous
9) Poetry for the Poisoned
10) The Shadow Theory
11) Dominion
12) Eternity
How 'bout a Conception ranking?
1. The Fourth Legacy
2. Karma
3. Siege Perilous
4. Eternity
5. Dominion
From 6 to 12 it could go either way, since all the albums sound more or less the same, production wise pretty sterile and song wise sounding safe (stick to the formula syndrome) 🤘🏻
Mark Vanderbilt is a friend of mine he never really did much musically afterwards
Gotta go with the Fourth Legacy as #1.
Then you guys need to do Edguy
like to see Ranking the Albums of Bob Seger ?
I only have his 2 live albums, sorry.
Hey pete, maybe a ranking the albums of Bob Dylan? Don't know if you've ever liked his music.
No, I do not.
@@seaoftranquilityprog - Straight to the point - I love it! I also agree completely.
1-7 Khan
Ghost Opera
Black Halo
Poetry
Epica
The 4th Legacy
Siege Perilous
Karma
8-9 Vanderbilt
Dominion
Eternity
all the rest are at #12 (Karevik)
No particular order after Silverthorn.
Late to the game, but here's my rank:
1. Karma 10/10
2. Epica 9/10
3. The Black Halo 9/10
4. The Fourth Legacy 8/10
5. Haven 8/10
6. Ghost Opera 8/10
7. Poetry for the Poisoned 7/10
8. Silverthorn 7/10
9. Siege Perilous 6/10
10. The Shadow Theory 6/10
11. Dominion 5/10
12. Eternity 5/10
@@liamfernandez223 yeah it's just that the songs didn't resonate with me very much. But it's still an ok album. ;)
Karma number 1
1. Epica, 2. Black Halo, 3. Karma, 4. The Fourth Legacy, 5. Siege Perilous. Starting with Ghost Opera through Silverthorn, the albums just don't do anything for me, and I haven't even bothered checking out the last two. Maybe I need to go back and try them out again. Possibly I gave up too early on them. Some albums take a few listens before you get it. We'll see.
Here's my two cents:
12. Eternity
11. Siege Perilous
10. Domination
9. Shadow Theory
8. The Fourth Legacy
7. Ghost Opera
6. Karma
5. Poetry For The Poisoned
4. Haven
3. Epica
2. Silverthorn
1. The Black Halo
Opinions can change within a year and here is my new ranking:
12. Eternity
11. Domination
10. Siege Perilous
9. Shadow Theory
8. Haven
7. Karma
6. Poetry For The Poisoned
5. The Fourth Legacy
4. Ghost Opera
3. Silverthorn
2. The Black Halo
1. Epica
1. Epica
2. The Black Halo
3. Karma
4. Ghost Opera
5. Poetry for the Poisoned
6. The Fourth Legacy
7. Haven
8. Silverthorn
9. The Shadow Theory
10. Siége Perilous
11. Dominion
12. Eternity
Too early to rank the new one but it's looking like it'll be around the middle. Epica and The Black Halo are about as good as music gets for me.
Really liked the first two albums back in the nineties and still listen to them sometimes. After Halo I lost interest in the band and never came back. The latest Conception with Khan is great, i think.
Im shocked that karma is not no1 :) Even worst songs on karma album will be hit song on other albums...Karma is true masterpiece from start to finish...great lyrics,beautifull choruses(black halo is not even close in that part to karma because of boring choruses),two insane good ballads,power metal at its best....you need to take best songs from epica,black halo,ghost opera and put together to have this album quality like karma...cheers
Solid discography. But if I were to pick a "Stuck on an island" one it would be "The Black Halo". Also, I couldn't agree more about Nightwish the last few albums have been boring AF😞
You must show better the álbuns..
Was never a huge fan of Kamelot. The first 3 albums or so were good cuz it was reminiscent of Crimson Glory and Helloween and older Fates Warning. On The Fourth Legacy and onwards it was too polished sounding. I wish they’d stayed sounding like they had on Eternity.
Pete’s list is terrible !! 😮😂😂😂😂 those record with Tommy are pasable so far at best
ALL WITH ROY IN A BIG WONDERFULE PILE OF GREATNESS ... the rest in the bin🙄sorry
Let's not go to Kamelot ,tis a silly place.
Just listened to a couple tunes from these guys for the first time...boring. Geez, the stuff you rave about... 🙄 Thumbs down
Just love the negative comment...you bring so much joy to this channel.
@@sotdude7 Just being honest. Kind of like how you disparage Glam metal. There's a lot of stuff I like on your channel, which is why Im still here.
@@latkagravas9011 I get it, but there's being honest and there's being negative just to be negative. Not trying to pick on you, but I just don't understand why people can't just move on to something else if they see something they maybe don't care for, but feel compelled to leave a negative comment. Just doesn't seem productive to me to tell the world every time you see something you don't like. And, I'd argue that listening to a couple of songs from a band with 12 albums probably isn't a great way to judge their music. As for glam metal, I listened to that stuff quite a lot back in the day, don't care for it now, but I've listened to plenty of it. If I'm asked, I'll give my opinion on it, and explain why I don't like it, but I don't go out of my way to post my feelings on glam metal on places where people who do like it are discussing it. I just don't see the point in it, but I guess that's where I am different than some. Anyway, thanks for sticking around!
@@seaoftranquilityprog Well I am glad you at least did something with Ratt. I thought your ranking was accurate as well.
Latka Gravas RATT😂😂😂CRAP