(Luigi Miraglia) De causis corruptæ institutionis Latinæ

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  • NUNC QUOQUE SUBTITULIS INSTRUCTA: • Luigi Miraglia de caus...
    Hæc contio habita est Amstelodami coram eis qui Athenæum Illustre auspicabantur Latinitatis Conventum agentes nomine 'Utrum illi callidioris fuerint an potius nos stolidiores', die 16/03/2013. Ut omnes hujusce conventus partes spectentur satis est hunc nexum sequi: • Latinitatis Conventus ... ubi omnia præsto sunt.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 403

  • @agricolaregs
    @agricolaregs 8 років тому +63

    I can only dream about speaking in Latin this well. Beautiful, and I am quite envious.

  • @cherubin7th
    @cherubin7th 8 років тому +144

    I wish Luigi Miraglia would have his own youtube channel where you would do fun stuff and only speak latin.

    • @jakefriedman6623
      @jakefriedman6623 7 років тому +10

      that's an excellent idea

    • @GFM_90
      @GFM_90 4 роки тому +11

      Check out Scorpius Martianus

    • @أفلاكالأفكار
      @أفلاكالأفكار 4 роки тому +5

      @@GFM_90 Sic Scorpius Martianus orator et magister Latinus optimus est

  • @AG02024
    @AG02024 7 років тому +52

    I have always loved the rhythm and sonority of Latin, and this gives me inspiration to learn it not as a curious study of a "dead" language, but rather as a spoken language, learned by a few fellow language enthusiasts...and after 2 years of learning Spanish, I can understand quite a lot of this...this guy is great!

    • @an57toni
      @an57toni 2 роки тому

      Try Sardinian (Language) - not the (Italian) corrupted one of the last 50-60 years (due to TV) - and you'll understand quite every thing, sometimes can make a (small) speech, as well.

  • @animula8322
    @animula8322 11 років тому +263

    I don't speak my native language half as fast.

  • @ilsalza7551
    @ilsalza7551 5 років тому +75

    Imagine that Roman man in 100 AD talking like this in a temple about how big the Roman empire is hahaha

    • @RashFever26
      @RashFever26 5 років тому +8

      The Roman Empire is great. It's the greatest, I'm telling you. The muddy grounds of Germania gotta be littered with the blood of barbarians. The christians need to leave our glorious pagan VRBS as well, or they get the damnatio ad bestias. JUPITER and MARS, not MARY and JESUS ok. Praise Jove.
      P.S.: support the Legions!

    • @Hun_Uinaq
      @Hun_Uinaq 5 років тому +3

      Web knowledge injection not with that pronunciation. Maybe 500 A.D. At the very earliest, 350 A.D. this is a lot closer to the Latin of Romulus Augustulus then it is to that of Trajan or Hadrian.

    • @kiroseo.carmen8651
      @kiroseo.carmen8651 3 роки тому +3

      this is church latin, not classical latin. it would probably be spoken around the time of the byzantine empire or so, when christianity was more prevalent in the roman empire

  • @michelebolzonello1736
    @michelebolzonello1736 8 років тому +30

    Incredibile!

  • @mbk4700
    @mbk4700 5 років тому +14

    HE IS THE MASTER.

  • @ironinquisitor3656
    @ironinquisitor3656 4 роки тому +37

    This is one of the best pronunciations of Latin I've ever heard.

    • @orizontereditar6349
      @orizontereditar6349 4 роки тому +7

      not really, it is a version of it, postclassic, the classic sounds more majestic

    • @ironinquisitor3656
      @ironinquisitor3656 4 роки тому +4

      @@orizontereditar6349 I do prefer the Restored Pronunciation too.

    • @abelpalmer552
      @abelpalmer552 3 роки тому

      @@ironinquisitor3656 so do I. It's how Latin was meant to be pronounced.

    • @DanieleFisichella
      @DanieleFisichella Рік тому +5

      ​@@orizontereditar6349@ironinquisitor3656 @abelpalmer552
      Based on your answers, you should speak Anglo-Saxon or at least Middle English instead of modern English, because "older is better"! Languages evolve, and Latin did evolve too, way before splitting into modern (neo)Latin languages. Ecclesiastical Latin is the last stage it evolved into before the Empire collapsed.

    • @Adrastus_
      @Adrastus_ Рік тому +1

      people say they prefer it because they hate christianity. it's really that simple @@DanieleFisichella

  • @beethoven532
    @beethoven532 8 років тому +3

    Gratias ago ob hoc videogramma. Classico pronuntiatu Latine ego didici sed plerumque bene intellego. Admirabilis est Aloysius Miraglia, ejusque acta ad Latinitatem favendam (tot aliorum etiam, scilicet)... Omnia faciamus ut lingua Latina viva plus plusque adhibeatur!

  • @Max.Wiggins
    @Max.Wiggins 8 років тому +4

    Macte, magister! Gratias multas ago tibi omnibusque. Hic remanebo horas multas quidem, ut mirabile emolumenta mei mente colligeam. Salve.

    • @agricolaregs
      @agricolaregs 8 років тому

      I just feel good that I could read your comment.

    • @Max.Wiggins
      @Max.Wiggins 8 років тому +1

      Bene. Si linguam alienam habeamus, nos oportet ea uti sicut lingua vivente facereque eam partem vitae cotidianae nostrae. Facile est verum. Debemus prorsus initium facere. Salve.

  • @maikykirihara8947
    @maikykirihara8947 8 років тому +183

    The latin language isn't dead

    • @Max.Wiggins
      @Max.Wiggins 8 років тому +22

      Verum dicis. Latina mortua non est, sed vivat. Latine loqueamur, amice. Latine loqueamur!

    • @maikykirihara8947
      @maikykirihara8947 8 років тому +3

      I understood i little because I speak portuguese... So it's a little bit esy to me to deduct it

    • @Max.Wiggins
      @Max.Wiggins 8 років тому +3

      Legal. Eu tenho estudado Português . Não é muito difícil, tendo estudado um monte de Latina.

    • @g.v.3493
      @g.v.3493 5 років тому +3

      Max Wigant
      Sic, domine! Linguam Latinam loqueamur, nunc et semper!

    • @meusisto
      @meusisto 5 років тому

      @@Max.Wiggins Olá, Max. Falas português bem agora?

  • @lucianoprado49
    @lucianoprado49 7 років тому +50

    I understood the Coca Cola and the McDonalds around 3:35

    • @Swenthorian
      @Swenthorian 6 років тому +4

      Also "weather, tense, and time" at 11:45

    • @Yep6803
      @Yep6803 5 років тому

      no qualcosaltro a mente
      tipo credo che parli del fatto che sia la lingua più importante e che la lingua si mutua costantemente(sorry you're italian so)

    • @mea.histria
      @mea.histria 9 місяців тому

      He mixed up modern words from the modern age in his Latin exposition

  • @ludovicbrochard3056
    @ludovicbrochard3056 5 років тому +13

    Le latin n'est pas une langue morte contrairement à la croyance populaire. Il est bien vivant et en voici la preuve. C'est une très belle langue. Latinus per semper ! Ad vitam aeternam.

  • @montelatici
    @montelatici 9 років тому +193

    It is so much better when an Italian speaks Latin. No matter what they say, Italian is the closest to Latin.

    • @kw328
      @kw328 9 років тому +58

      +Fred Montelatici Actually Sardinian is closer with Italian coming in second. Both Italian and Sardinian are the closest to Latin only in terms of vocabulary. The closest language to Latin in terms of grammar is Romanian because it still has some of the noun declensions that Latin had. the main problem with many users of the Classical Pronunciation is that they overtrill the R, they exaggerate the long vowels, pronounce the E like 'AY' when it should be pronounced more like how most of the Romance languages do, they also pronounce the D and T like English when it should be pronounced dentally like spanish. I try to avoid those mistakes as much as possible.

    • @montelatici
      @montelatici 8 років тому +8

      I doubt that people living much farther from Rome than Italians would retain the accent of the spoken tongue more than people living in the area where Latin was actually spoken.

    • @bigbeddie
      @bigbeddie 8 років тому +5

      Not to mention the intonation and the aspirated p's and all sorts of other annoying stuff they probably don't even think of while agonising over philological follies while missing the essential and common characteristics of romance languages....

    • @jamesvanderhoorn1117
      @jamesvanderhoorn1117 8 років тому +12

      That's nonsense. Languages change, given enough time they change beyond recognition. That goes for all aspects of language, including pronunciation. We know for a fact that the modern Italian/ecclesiastical pronunciation of Latin was nothing like the pronunciation of Cicero. Of course, many people attempting to pronounce Latin the ancient way do so imperfectly, with American, French, German, or what have you, accents. This does not mean that the pronuntiatio restituta is wrong in theory.

    • @Rolando_Cueva
      @Rolando_Cueva 7 років тому +21

      Actually, Sardinian is the closest.

  • @saxasalt
    @saxasalt 4 роки тому +20

    I wish there were less people discussing his Latin, excellent as it is, and that there were rather more people discussing what he's actually saying, which is quite contentious.

    • @SpectatorAlius
      @SpectatorAlius 4 роки тому +2

      @@Heyprinny I get bits and pieces, but I still often miss a complete sentence because of a key word I missed.
      It would have been worse if he was using the 'restored' pronunciation!

    • @abelpalmer552
      @abelpalmer552 3 роки тому +1

      @@SpectatorAlius nah I could have understood him better if he spoke Classically

    • @shapeoperator
      @shapeoperator 3 роки тому +4

      It is also mostly nonsense. The sort of major changes he is talking about, going from Old or Middle English to modern English occurred at times of much lower literacy in the population, in addition to there being much more limited possibilities of recording speech. First of all, recorded languages have been changing slower since, and second the examples of Icelandic and Hebrew show that if your concern is to maintain intelligibility with ancient forms, there are other options than just not using the language for daily interactions.

  • @saberliberta
    @saberliberta 5 років тому +2

    Que coisa linda. Fico muito feliz ao poder ouvir a língua mãe do português, até consigo entender algumas palavras aí. Muito obrigado por compartilhar conosco.

    • @campodemarte4352
      @campodemarte4352 5 років тому +2

      Eu quero muito estudar na academia Vivarium Novum.

  • @ronaldjohndalmacio8117
    @ronaldjohndalmacio8117 8 років тому +59

    >Speed 2.0
    Latin rapper with superior bars

  • @ultraviolet16
    @ultraviolet16 2 роки тому +3

    As an Italian I feel like I understand him but can’t at the same time lol

  • @MarisaGiuliana
    @MarisaGiuliana 2 роки тому

    Antea magistro eloquentia gratulor, tamen, vestimentum irreverens est, ad spectatorum nobilitatem
    Livius Tam Magnus

  • @FrancescoVentury
    @FrancescoVentury 7 років тому +2

    Straordinario!

  • @a-Sieee
    @a-Sieee 4 роки тому +10

    When you live near Rome and you can't understand any single word 😂

  • @johncolasont6195
    @johncolasont6195 6 років тому +4

    If you put the video on 1.25X and close your eyes, you can almost pretend you're in the Roman Senate.

  • @nsiinitu
    @nsiinitu 7 років тому +3

    salvus erit anima tua, et a vobis deducar tibi Deus, et dimissis peccatis et in iniquitatibus a alme et singula Amen, salvus erit

  • @RarePartsRetailerFLA
    @RarePartsRetailerFLA 9 місяців тому

    Eu falo português e tenho a impressão que o sotaque falado no Brasil fica ótimo para o Latim.
    Esse vídeo é muito bom.
    Luis Mirabila podia ou devia abrir um canal próprio no UA-cam

  • @MatthaeusLatinus
    @MatthaeusLatinus 11 років тому +11

    Optime! Licet velocius interdum loquatur quam ut sat bene intellegam .... nihilominus homo prorsus admirandus atque imitandus.

  • @politicallyincorrect2232
    @politicallyincorrect2232 11 років тому

    aloisie simply the best!
    Grazie perché ascoltando te esercito la mia capacità di ascolatre il latino e contemporaneamente la mente anche per la lettura

  • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
    @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh 6 років тому +9

    It sounds like Romanian.

  • @spektakelkd
    @spektakelkd 9 років тому +7

    impressive

  • @raduivan2768
    @raduivan2768 4 роки тому +1

    Mirabile visu et auditu!

  • @fabiobonetta5454
    @fabiobonetta5454 3 роки тому +1

    "ut lingua sit viva oportet etiam de viviis rebus loquatur"

  • @RomanBraixen
    @RomanBraixen 5 років тому +1

    I am an English and French speaker and I understood quite a lot of this

  • @thomastr914
    @thomastr914 5 років тому +2

    Ego latinum studui in scola superioris sed latinum maccheronicum cognosco. Voleo magistrum istum pro me ut sicut eum loquere possim!

  • @edwardfranks5215
    @edwardfranks5215 9 років тому +4

    Pretty fantastic! Why care so much about whether perfect. The 'v' was not pronounced as a 'w' but a cross between a 'vf.' The pronunciation of Latin was already evolving under the empire with confusion as to short and long vowels leading to even more use of prepositions which are more precise that loading 12 shades of meaning on the pronunciation of long a as in agricola , 'b' for 'v' as in bibat for vivat, soft 'c' instead of 'k.' By the 4th century diphthongs were in decline. Grammatically there was little difference between the 'standard' literary Latin and the spoken. Latin became a dead language from 650 A.D. to 900 A.D. when speakers of Proto-Romance had to learn as a second language, as it had ceased to be their mother tongue.

    • @svsfazio
      @svsfazio 6 років тому

      This is a good point. What we call now "classical latin" was canonized around the late republic to be a sort of lingua franca of the vast Roman domains. It's pronunciation continued to evolve, sometimes incorporating some developments of local "vulgata". But grammatically continued to be the same language. Therefore, unlikely the ancient Attic Greek, which had it's own pronunciation, you can choose to read a standard Latin text following the pronunciation of the late empire (ecclesiastical) or the one of the classical age of Virgil and Caesar. I disagree more when Greeks read the Attic Greek pronounced as modern Greek, because that language became extinct at the times of Alexander the Great and was a local tongue. This does not hold with the Latin, which continued to be actively used basically till the Council Vatican II of the Catholic church (with session hold entirely in Latin). Reading ancient texts using the pronunciation of Virgil is awesome and has a lot of philological meaning. But keeping Latin alive as an active language is a different story, I'd rather start from where it ended nearly 60 years ago, rather than taking a time machine and speak like Virgil.

  • @mariosilva1887
    @mariosilva1887 8 років тому +4

    Salvete Omnes! Would it be possible to have these very nice videos with english subtitles? I think it helps a lot someone who is trying to master just a bit of latin.

  • @lateinmaus8093
    @lateinmaus8093 5 років тому +3

    I take advanced Latin class in highschool and am pretty good at it but WE ONLY TRANSLATE LATIN TEXTS INTO OUR LANGUAGE. NO ONE HAS EVER SAID SOMETHING IN LATIN. AND EVERYONE SAYS THE LANGUAGE IS DEAD

    • @albertpuig6273
      @albertpuig6273 3 місяці тому +1

      "We only translate Latin"
      That's why you will never learn Latin. You can't learn a language just by translating it.

  • @Uriel333
    @Uriel333 2 місяці тому +1

    those schwa sounds at the end of words kill me XD

  • @corradolampe
    @corradolampe 7 місяців тому

    admiror multum intellegi

  • @BaroneAzzurro
    @BaroneAzzurro 5 років тому +2

    musica per le mie orecchie

  • @joshdoe7971
    @joshdoe7971 5 років тому +1

    I wish I could turn on captions so I could see youtube try to make sense of this

  • @michaelmiraljev1043
    @michaelmiraljev1043 3 роки тому +1

    Sono stato fortunato di aver studiato nella sua Accademia ! Si parlava il latino

  • @greysonperkins5785
    @greysonperkins5785 8 років тому +1

    One day I'll be able to understand all of this. Just wondering, why is the title 'de causis... institutionis latinae? If it says what I think it says shouldn't/couldn't it just be 'causes corruptae in institutionibus latinis' ('the causes of corruption in latin institutes' is what I'm trying to say)?

    • @gabrielecupaiolo2058
      @gabrielecupaiolo2058 8 років тому +3

      Because it means like: "about causes etc...", it's a typical use of latin that you can find even in latin works (De rerum natura, De agricoltura, De natura deorum, for example) :D

    • @mmordie
      @mmordie  8 років тому +7

      "Institutio" does not mean "Institutions", it means "Education. The title translates as: "Reasons for the decline [in quality] in the study of Latin"

  • @NobleOmarBey
    @NobleOmarBey 8 років тому

    ' Tempus evenivit cum cultus omnia colere mustum subter suus vitis et ficus arboris atque ligua omnia mustum fateri suus.'

  • @Scuppetta1998IT
    @Scuppetta1998IT 9 років тому +7

    bravissimo

  • @giampierover7832
    @giampierover7832 8 років тому +5

    Un canale RAI dedicato esclusivamente al latino parlato (grammatica, documentari, TG, SPORT, cultura, cartoons ecc.) ? E' chiedere troppo ad una TV di Stato?

    • @AndreaNutri
      @AndreaNutri 8 років тому +2

      Si certo, perché sicuramente far vedere Peppa Pig in latino anziché in italiano ai bambini aiuta...
      /sarcasm
      Sarebbe MOLTO più utile avere canali dedicati alla lingua inglese o più possibilità di scelta, come ad esempio quella di ascoltare un film in lingua originale anziché doppiato che secondo me farebbe la differenza... considerando la quantità di persone che ancora non riescono a comunicare in un inglese basilare che, al contrario del latino, è tutt'altro che una lingua estinta

    • @AndreaNutri
      @AndreaNutri 5 років тому +1

      @Russell Richards Perché che tu lo voglia o meno l'inglese è l'attuale lingua franca, ci permette di comunicare con il resto del mondo. Senza nulla togliere alle tradizioni, personalmente preferisco poter sfruttare un linguaggio per comunicare con le persone piuttosto che per uno sterile esercizio di stile. Se qualcuno vuole imparare il latino in _full immersion_ è libero di farlo, ci mancherebbe, ma lo vedo assolutamente come superfluo.
      Considerando che tanti al giorno d'oggi a malapena saprebbero chiedere che ore sono in inglese, lingua che tra l'altro è richiestissima nel mondo del lavoro, capirai che preferisco dare priorità ad essa piuttosto che a una lingua morta.
      Il latino al giorno d'oggi è fine a sé stesso per quanto mi riguarda, visto e considerato che al massimo viene usato per tradurre gli occasionali reperti archeologici che vengono trovati un po' qua e un po' là.
      Per il fatto di imparare una lingua straniera in modo naturale sono sicuramente d'accordo dato che è così che ho imparato l'inglese.
      Concludo facendoti presente che dando a me dell'ignorante sei tu che ci stai facendo una figura barbina quindi per cortesia trattieniti dal dire cavolate sull'ignoranza o sui barbari ok? Grazie

    • @albertpuig6273
      @albertpuig6273 3 місяці тому

      @@AndreaNutri
      L'inglese è omnipresente su internet e OVUNQUE, quindi non precisa un canale RAI...

  • @HEJSHispanaJunularo
    @HEJSHispanaJunularo 9 років тому +4

    Flua parolado. Tre imprese. Gratulon! ;)

  • @Cachoeira1986
    @Cachoeira1986 8 років тому

    Optime vero locutos est a magistro Luigi.

  • @صبريبنبوزيد
    @صبريبنبوزيد 5 років тому

    Luigi Miraglia linguam latinam miro modo loquitur !!

  • @CDEbFGAbB
    @CDEbFGAbB 9 років тому +4

    I speak 5 romance languages and I didn't know until I saw this vid that I could recognize aurally every word in latin. Yes, the man vocalizes a lot and that makes me understand the whole context of his speech.

    • @gianfrancow2850
      @gianfrancow2850 9 років тому

      It's the italian habit to vocalize each letter.. this is for sure the best latin pronunciation avaible.
      luigi miraglia is an italian professor from naples.

    • @gianfrancow2850
      @gianfrancow2850 9 років тому

      It's the italian habit to vocalize each letter.. this is for sure the best latin pronunciation avaible.
      luigi miraglia is an italian professor from naples.

    • @CDEbFGAbB
      @CDEbFGAbB 9 років тому

      +Gianfranco M Nevertheless I believe that the italian one was not how the romans pronounced latin. All these final consonants that every italian has to do accompanied with a -a makes the language unnatural to them. It's like when I hear them speak english; they pronounce all the final consonants with a -a, and this indicates that that is not this person's mother language.
      If an italian doesn't pronounce the final consonants with that -a it's because s-he worked hard on it.

    • @gianfrancow2850
      @gianfrancow2850 9 років тому +1

      CDEbFGAbB obviously nobody thinks italian have the best pronunce in latin.. that's because from the '1800 anglosaxons and french scholars tried to put away the latin heritage from italians. For sure cicero's sounds were different, for example we italians read "chaesar", while the original name was almost for sure "kaesar", and that's how anglosaxons read it, but the accent, the intonation, that very peculiar way italians have to mark each single consonant and vocal is an authentic heritage, a peculiarity of every italic language, like oscan, apulian, marsian, venetian, etc. Italy has many dialects and they all have plurals ending with a vocal, all the letters are highly marked when pronounced, in each one. Of course you can believe what your masters teach you, but we italians having the biggest latinists (like luigi miraglia you see here, unanimously the best latin speaker in the world) just follow what we believe it's our genetic and linguistic heritage.

    • @CDEbFGAbB
      @CDEbFGAbB 9 років тому

      +Gianfranco M Yes, you're right in that aspect. Of course, latin is an italic language and it had most of the features that nowadays exist in every dialect in Italy, BUT what I mean is that today's ITALIAN pronunciation can't be 100% that pronunciation the romans had 2000 years ago. Maybe 80%.
      I pointed out the final consonants, but there can be other differences.

  • @seforamyers
    @seforamyers 6 років тому +1

    Magnifique!

  • @aureusventus
    @aureusventus 10 місяців тому

    I wish I could be like him

  • @Michail_Chatziasemidis
    @Michail_Chatziasemidis 4 роки тому +9

    People should learn that a language changes in its pronunciation not only from place to place at the same time, but even from time to time. Latin (& Greek) is not an exception. Latin regional pronunciations (& modern Greek pronunciation) are the only ones that survived naturally until our times. Reconstructed pronunciations, although scientifically correct and acceptable, are nothing more than artificial devices. Thus, let anybody use the pronunciation they're accustomed to, that sounds to them the best, that is easier for them, and that they can understand better.

    • @abelpalmer552
      @abelpalmer552 3 роки тому

      I mean... The Classical pronunciation is how it was spoken by native speakers, and the Ecclesiastical is an extremely artificial standard beginning with Charlemagne.

    • @Red_Tuxedo
      @Red_Tuxedo 3 роки тому +1

      Well, not exactly. Most speakers of the reconstructed pronunciation still use vowel and consonant sounds from their native language, and the ecclesiastical pronunciation was established in the early 20th century, not in the time of Charlemagne. Also, Miraglia here is not actually using the ecclesiastical pronunciation, though his own pronunciation is also clearly based on Italian. But in any case, he’s pretty easy to understand.

    • @ironinquisitor3656
      @ironinquisitor3656 Рік тому

      @@Red_Tuxedo They at least went back to pronouncing Latin letter for letter verbatim as it was written down exactly in Charlemagne's time.

  • @inkari1981
    @inkari1981 7 років тому +1

    soy peruano,hablo español y entiendo sin saber latin, im peruvian ,i speak spanish but i can understand many words in latin , i never learn and hear latin before

  • @yunasimanuishmausha4547
    @yunasimanuishmausha4547 2 роки тому

    Mihei placent Lateinetas eti pronovontiatuos sovos atque pronuntiatus Italicus atque Ille Restitutus etiam Pronuntiatus et enim Sermo Vulgaris atque Varii Sermones Latini Vulgares. Macte in felicis quae res item sunt Felicitatis.

  • @jeyjo325
    @jeyjo325 5 років тому +40

    La pronuncia ecclesiastici dona al latino una dignità senza pari. Il latino ecclesiasticamente pronunciato è il Latino per eccellenza. Il latino pronunciato dai tedeschi e altri fa pena.

    • @jamesrussel7949
      @jamesrussel7949 4 роки тому +5

      Non necessariamente

    • @abelpalmer552
      @abelpalmer552 3 роки тому +3

      As Latin was meant to be spoken in the Classical way, to me it sounds better that way, beautiful, proud, Romantic, but strong and ancient. The Ecclesiastical pronunciation sounds like an Italian accent to me. However I have come to appreciate its own inherent beauty, especially from this guy.

    • @albertpuig6273
      @albertpuig6273 3 місяці тому

      Quindi la maniera come pronunciava Cicerone fa pena?
      Magari tu fai pena...

  • @philv2529
    @philv2529 7 років тому +1

    omfg this is awesome the whole thing is in Latin

  • @Swenthorian
    @Swenthorian 6 років тому +1

    Good God -- he's good!

  • @lectionesantiquae3090
    @lectionesantiquae3090 2 роки тому

    Utinam sic bene Latine possim aliquando loqui! Me in exercitatione detineo, qua certe non modica opus est, sed longam patere mihi viam manifestum est...

  • @shahqu5dohcoh9ri88
    @shahqu5dohcoh9ri88 6 років тому +4

    Numquam hominem audivit tam perfecte latinum loquentem.

  • @julies570
    @julies570 9 років тому +13

    of course they do it best - the Italians can pronounce Ecclesiastical Latin well because it is the predecessor of their own language of modern Italian! But the people who have been lucky enough to study Italian can do it well too, with ease, because Latin simply follows the same pronunciation pattern as Italian!

    • @slayerslayer7623
      @slayerslayer7623 5 років тому +1

      Well, Ecclesiasctical Latin is very similar, but actual Latin is *drastically* different.

    • @ginopagul102
      @ginopagul102 5 років тому +1

      @@slayerslayer7623 taci, barbaro

    • @ginopagul102
      @ginopagul102 5 років тому +1

      @Russell Richards :)

  • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
    @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh 6 років тому +1

    Ecclesiastical pronunciation is the pronunciation of late Latin. Italian shares the same phonology because Italian has not changed its sounds.Figure 5 century AD

    • @ironinquisitor3656
      @ironinquisitor3656 Рік тому

      Not exactly. The Ecclesiastical Lain pronunciation has its base during the Carolingian Renaissance when they went back to reading Latin letter for letter verbatim as it was exactly written down. The Pronunciation of Late Latin was Romance. Populum in Italy would have actually been read as Popolo. Saeculum in Spain would have been read aloud as Sieglo. Viridiarium in Gaul/Frankia during Charlemagne's time would have been read as Vergier.

  • @francisco-vd9yv
    @francisco-vd9yv 4 роки тому +1

    And sudenlly, professors from Germany and England interrupt this Roman professor saying: This is not Roman language!

    • @DanieleFisichella
      @DanieleFisichella Рік тому

      They are clowns with their "reconstructed" Latin 😂 This guy speaks the OG official Latin, also known as Ecclesiastical Latin, the only living/spoken version of Latin since imperial age till nowadays

    • @albertpuig6273
      @albertpuig6273 3 місяці тому

      @@DanieleFisichella
      Well, in imperial age people would be talking in what you derided as clownish.. that's why it's called restituta (not "reconstructed"). There is a reason the Roman alphabet had only "v" and not "u", you know..

  • @mmordie
    @mmordie  11 років тому

    Gratias ago potius ego tum tibi, qui ita grata verba huc infixisti, tum Amstelodamensibus amicis ex Athenæo Illustri, qui pelliculam paraverunt et quorum veniâ hanc tæniam huic UA-cam ipse addidi. Vale bene!

  • @pieterboeve941
    @pieterboeve941 Рік тому

    Bellissima

  • @patrick-sprachenmusikstudi5351
    @patrick-sprachenmusikstudi5351 9 років тому +4

    I would have liked the reconstructed pronunciation more. Still 1000x better than "sahl-wey-tey"

  • @carlhopkinson
    @carlhopkinson 7 років тому

    This sound *very* convincing.

  • @michelebolzonello1736
    @michelebolzonello1736 8 років тому +10

    Anche io qualcosa capisco

  • @robertburning574
    @robertburning574 3 роки тому

    very good

  • @joseantoniobenlopez3240
    @joseantoniobenlopez3240 2 роки тому

    Enhorabuena por el vídeo.

  • @fernandesluzzi9185
    @fernandesluzzi9185 3 роки тому

    Latin a língua culta. Quem conhece o Latim nunca será enganado, por que o que foi escrito ninguém consegue adulterar!!!

  • @Baeticus2
    @Baeticus2 11 років тому +3

    Maxima delectatione ex Hispania audire et spectare possum Aloisium de humanismo et humanistis veris. Quopropter tibi qui hanc pellicullam tradidisti maximas gratias ago.

  • @angeloritofasanaro9850
    @angeloritofasanaro9850 3 роки тому

    Subtitulo scribendum est.

  • @janakroyal2209
    @janakroyal2209 3 роки тому

    Amen papa amen papa amen

  • @jamesvanderhoorn1117
    @jamesvanderhoorn1117 6 років тому +1

    Pronuntiatus qui dicitur reconstitutus distinguit inter e brevem, e longam et ae, qui soni confunduntur ecclesiastica pronuntiatus ratione.

  • @DrZenith
    @DrZenith 10 років тому +11

    Brilliant! Pronounced in the Italian manner -in mode italice, but how beautifully fluent. Ave magister! Ave domine!

    • @gianfrancow2850
      @gianfrancow2850 9 років тому +5

      Let's not forget that latin is an italic language.. thus the italian manner should be the best and most realistic avaible of how cicero and caesar spoke.

    • @DrZenith
      @DrZenith 9 років тому +1

      Got to disagree with you, - as a student of languages and also of Latin. Latin in Ancient Rome was not pronounced as Italian is today. in particular the C always like K etc. You must then know that the ecclesiastical Latin of the Roman Catholic church today (and for centuries now) has little to do with the classic pronunciation of Caesar and Cicero. Vale amice! (amiKé)

    • @gianfrancow2850
      @gianfrancow2850 9 років тому +3

      Chris Eden I'm italian, I studied latin language for 6 years, I read text from the greatest latinists in the world, luigi miraglia is the best fluent latin speaker in the world, so got to disagree with your informations.

    • @DrZenith
      @DrZenith 9 років тому +1

      +Odiumpotens No. It was NOT. You're wrong. Investigate the subject a little. If you like, I'll give you a mini-lesson.
      First, in Latin, C was always pronounced like K (so, Cicero was said as: Kikero not sisero. Caesar was pronouced 'Kaisar' not sizar. (Just like the German Emperor Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany. Second the G was always hard i.e, Genus: - g as in gone or gain not jenus or jesus. And there are other differences. Miraglia is great, he speaks Latin fluently. But he speaks it in a way which has nothing to do with the ancient Romans. Investigate the question of the restored pronuciation on the UA-cam site of the great teacher and Latinist Evan der Millner. You'll see. And if you're an Italian gentleman -and not some sort of mafiosi, or crook - you'll write back to me and say, 'Sorry my friend, you were right all the time'

    • @gianfrancow2850
      @gianfrancow2850 9 років тому +3

      The problem is that you anglosaxon speakers pronunce the letter "c" as we pronunce the "s". In italy we pronunce "chicero" like in the word "chat", not "sisero". So you are arguing about the pronounce of a language, italian, the closest living language to latin, you dont even know. One or two consonantic changes are nothing: the accents, the intonation, the purity and marked clarity of vocals is typical of the italian language today as it was in his italic ancestor. Latin is an italic language. Italian is an italic language. 98% of the words are the same. Anglosaxon speakers learn to speak latin but pronunce it as it is a german language. Miraglia could say kikero instead of chicero and still have the best pronuntiation avaible in the world. Its not just about kaisar or chesar. That's it.

  • @AelwynMr
    @AelwynMr 9 років тому +5

    Protestantes tantum in universitate Patavina accepti et grati erant. Veneti quidquid facebant ut papam irritaverint ;-)

  • @Arturest
    @Arturest 8 років тому +3

    Is he using the ecclesiastical pronunciation here?

    • @burningmatch09
      @burningmatch09 8 років тому +2

      Arturest Yup!

    • @polyglossia3671
      @polyglossia3671 5 років тому +3

      It's "Italianate" as it seeks to sound like Latin as spoken in Italy during the Rennaisance. This all comes from my Latin teacher who has known Luigi personally for many years and visited the Academy Vivarium Novum repeatedly.
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accademia_Vivarium_Novum

    • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
      @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh 5 років тому +2

      It's the pronunciation of Late Latin - 3rd, 4th century. The fact that ecclesiastical Latin and Italian have the same sounds does not make this Latin 'Italianate'.

  • @gianfrancow2850
    @gianfrancow2850 9 років тому +8

    wow.. pazzesco

  • @stefanomartinazzi5982
    @stefanomartinazzi5982 7 місяців тому

    I am so happy that today's global language is english and not latin. Latin is very complex and hard to learn, while english is much easier.

    • @albertpuig6273
      @albertpuig6273 3 місяці тому

      There are just about 50.000 words in Latin.
      In English it's about 170.000
      English is not an easy language. The only thing easy about English is its grammar. By all other means, it is a rather crazy language, its pronunciation alone looks expressly designed to make people scratch their heads...

  • @cronachedaroma
    @cronachedaroma 4 роки тому +1

    Al pro virili partem Livio si è svegliato

  • @riconthemove
    @riconthemove 9 років тому

    Dove e come potrei imparare il latino come lui? Corsi, scuole, autodidatta, online...? Ciao e complimenti

    • @DarkNess2491
      @DarkNess2491 9 років тому

      +Riccardo Barelli Accademia Vivarium Novuum, vai sul sito e troverai molte info ^^ io ho studiato latino al liceo sui libri da loro pubblicati ;)

    • @riconthemove
      @riconthemove 9 років тому

      Grazie mille! lo cerco subito

    • @martinusloch9039
      @martinusloch9039 8 років тому +2

      +Riccardo Barelli multis locis, e.g. in Polonia, instituuntur scholae aestivae. si vis plura scire, scribe mihi.

    • @sergioprieto1437
      @sergioprieto1437 8 років тому +2

      c'è un libro molto buono su internet chiamato "Lingua Latina per se illustrata" . È un libro che ti insegna il latino da zero e un modo molto semplice di impararlo. Ci sono tre libri in pdf che ti puoi scaricare.
      Scrivi su google: Lingua latina per se illustrata pdf
      e ti uscirà. Troverai uno che si chiama *Familia romana* che è il primo e dopo c'è anche un'altro per leggere e l'ultimo sono esercizi da fare. Buona fortuna!! 😉

  • @chevalierdeloccident5949
    @chevalierdeloccident5949 4 роки тому

    All I understood was “Coca-Cola” and “McDonald” past 3:35.

  • @francesco487
    @francesco487 4 роки тому

    Ok, I officially feel an ignorant.

  • @submoto
    @submoto 11 років тому

    What is the correct translation to latin for: "Our art will make us immortal"
    Google translate says "inmortalibus erimus artem.", but I think it is incorrect.

    • @individualgrammar9160
      @individualgrammar9160 11 років тому +2

      It is incorrect. I'd rather say:
      "Ars nostra immortales faciet."

    • @luigigenoni5944
      @luigigenoni5944 10 років тому +2

      ▂▃▄▅▆▇█▓▒░Individual Grammar░▒▓█▇▆▅▄▃ potius...arte nostra immortales efficiemur

  • @Dr.haider-i3o
    @Dr.haider-i3o 5 років тому

    It is a mixture of spanish and Italiano.

    • @brazenserpent7
      @brazenserpent7 4 роки тому

      Spanish and Italian are part of the Romance languages, which have all been derived from the great mother tongue: Latin.

    • @albertpuig6273
      @albertpuig6273 3 місяці тому

      Oh just shut up you idi0T..

  • @willobi
    @willobi 8 років тому +1

    "Speak up bloody Romans!!"

  • @angeloritofasanaro9850
    @angeloritofasanaro9850 3 роки тому

    Sottotitoli

  • @MM-vt2nj
    @MM-vt2nj 7 років тому +5

    A Romanian could also speak this beautifully. At first I thought he was speaking Romanian till I realized it was Latin

  • @Bella_Bimba
    @Bella_Bimba 2 роки тому

    Uau

  • @vincentiusrex
    @vincentiusrex 7 років тому +4

    Mihi ignosce, domine, sed Latīne loquar dē Cocacola et McDonalds sī volō. Plūrimī hīc adōrant vōcem suāvem huius hominis, sed audiuntne quod dīcit? Quō modō lingua utilis esse potest sī verba rērum recentum et quotidianōrum eget? Ista nōn est lingua vīva.

    • @jokerahahah3421
      @jokerahahah3421 6 років тому

      Frumentator Californicus Quomodo potes dicere linguam latinam mortuam esse? Certe, video te hanc linguam bene loqui, vero ut videre potes, multae scholae in Italian sunt quae linguam latinam student, atque deinde sunt aliqui qui eam loqui tentant, quia hanc linguam amant. Vale

    • @AelwynMr
      @AelwynMr 5 років тому

      Loqui est singula via ad quamcumque linguam facile intelligendam. Si latine loqui volumus, et verba recentiora, "pseudolatina" ut professor dixit, utantur, quia haud omnibus quibus latinitatem student humanismus, auctores classici et similia intersunt, ne ii tantum de his rebus loqui possunt aut volunt.

    • @ezzovonachalm9815
      @ezzovonachalm9815 2 роки тому

      Vicentie ! emere potes Dictionarium Modernae Latinitatis continens latinam aequivalentiam pro rebus modernis quae non quidem existebant cum imperavat Romanum Imperium , sic ut " cigarette, allumette,
      blue jeans, whisky....
      Observatorium Romanum si abones , poteris legere novitates politicas hodiernas exempli gratia:
      "Cetera censeo Macronem despotam quam primum a contione nationale gallica destituendum esse."
      Vale !

    • @ezzovonachalm9815
      @ezzovonachalm9815 2 роки тому

      @@AelwynMr
      Exempli gratia latinam translationem modernis vocabuli
      " blue jeans" : braccae resistentis texturae ,quae tam strictae sunt, quia testiicula tua compriment et feconditatem tuam impedent. Judaeus quidem americanus nomine " Levi" has braccas producit et cum ingente proficto in
      toto orbe vendit.

  • @writersounds9523
    @writersounds9523 4 роки тому

    Who's he practicing it with..

  • @intanto1
    @intanto1 7 років тому +1

    Here are two Italians with different inflection (subtle differences) speaking in Latin.
    ua-cam.com/video/kWEEN_BIlN8/v-deo.html
    Qui parlano in due: sempre in Latino ma la "cadenza" o l'inflessione regionale è diversa. Almeno mi pare.

  • @tomkot
    @tomkot 5 років тому

    Not knowing the language good enough to comment on the content, but this is Latin spoken with a very heavy Italian accent, right?

    • @MC-qc9iz
      @MC-qc9iz 5 років тому +1

      Are you serious? Lmao

    • @tomkot
      @tomkot 5 років тому +1

      @@MC-qc9iz Are you? Lmao rofl omg so funny I can't even

    • @francisco-vd9yv
      @francisco-vd9yv 4 роки тому +1

      To the contrary, Italians speak with a very heavy Latin accent.

    • @tomkot
      @tomkot 4 роки тому +1

      @@francisco-vd9yv You either don't know Latin or Italian phonology very well if you say that. There are many Latin phonemes not present in Italian and vice versa. Good luck trying to speak with an accent where you have removed many of the sounds distinctive to that accent, AND on top of that add different sounds not even existing in that accent. ;)

    • @diego_1619
      @diego_1619 4 роки тому +1

      Latin isn’t a language with accents, it’s a quantity language, so we cannot reproduce the exactly pronunciation, but there are some rules that helps us to put the accent on a world to have a pronunciation as close as possible to original Latin, and because Italian language is the nearest to Latin they sound very similar

  • @politicallyincorrect2232
    @politicallyincorrect2232 11 років тому +5

    Aloisie nobis est fons instinctus impulsusque divini. Deberes divulgare alias orationes tuas de multis argumentis litteraris e filologicis.

  • @lorenzomiraglia3291
    @lorenzomiraglia3291 7 років тому

    oh

  • @upupina90
    @upupina90 4 роки тому +1

    sì ma stai calmo

  • @wolframhuttermann7519
    @wolframhuttermann7519 9 років тому

    The letter "æ" is superfluent. You can replace it with "ae".

    • @mmordie
      @mmordie  9 років тому +14

      +Wolfram Hüttermann æ has been used since Renaissance times to differenciate between the double sound in "philosophiæ', 'æs, æris', etc, and the two sounds separated by hiatus in 'aer, aeris', 'aeneus' etc. This also goes for the 'oe' set, which is a douple sound in 'cœtus' and a hiatus in 'poeta'. The ligatures are is to my mind an alternative way of rendering what sometimes is written with the diaeresis (so poëta, aër), but, whatever the convention we choose, they are far from superfluous.

  • @georgewinchester6403
    @georgewinchester6403 3 роки тому

    This guy's got some good coke

  • @TalaySeedam
    @TalaySeedam 6 місяців тому

    Paenitet, quod eius pronuntiatio non sicut Latina sed sicut Italica moderna sonat.

  • @juansebastianquinteroardil7385
    @juansebastianquinteroardil7385 7 років тому +3

    Sometimes I think I'm hearing romanian.

    • @brazenserpent7
      @brazenserpent7 4 роки тому +1

      Romanian is one of the Romance languages.

  • @Jamc_latino
    @Jamc_latino 7 років тому

    Entiendo lo que dice en muchas cosas, se parece al español