Coming from a professional sound engineer of 7 years from a large Church: Great job. Ambient is definitely the way to go for an organ. I'm astounded at how well that organ sound expands even in such a small room. (The reverb was a nice touch too.) Props to Rode for contributing to the ongoing experiment. 👍
I’m actually really excited for when he gets (whom I presume to be Anna Lapwood) in, because of this specifically. I’m intrigued to hear what she thinks of that dynamic.
It would be cool if you call the original tuning company that's written on the console (I checked some videos ago and they're still open) to tune the organ as it always was tuned!
Keep in mind the pipes are apparently from several different locations originally, though I agree with the sentiment, it would be cool to see that tuning company show up
@@spearmintderg ok, so checking out on the Internet again it seems like that J.W. Walker and Sons are not just organ tuners but also organ builders! But as I said it seems like they're still running their company
Oh, mate, the Anna Lapwood collab, to which I'm assuming you're referring, would be great, but have just loved this series so much, and can go as long as long as you like. Best thing ever rescuing this marvelous creation 👍
Great work Sam - looks and sounds great! Just remember to disable the high-pass filter on the RODECaster, to allow those big pipes to really come through in the bass. Can't wait to hear more!
Nice! For recording, one thing I like to do when I have multiple microphones is to keep the close microphones dry and apply the reverb (and possibly some delay) to the far mics. When mixed, it can make a small room sound large. It also reduces problems with phase cancellation.
Sam, you better fill that room with some smoke, turn the lights down and make a video playing some spooky tunes for Halloween! Also what an absolute legend you are Sam. Thanks for all your efforts, and I'm glad humans like you exist. You make us all better people.
The new mics sounds amazing. I've just absolutely loved the organ project. You inspire me! Your music, your wide-ranging skills, and your irreverent, fun-loving sense of humor all make me very happy. I'm a bit sad that this particular project is winding down, but know I'll have fun checking out your other ventures. If I ever make it over to London, *This Museum Is Not Obsolete* is right up there with Abbey Road for me to visit.
The microphones are awesome, just set the noise gate correctly or better yet, see if you can find a gated noise filter instead or realise that idea with the given effects . The microphones are arranged pretty well too, you can quite easily tell which way your head is facing, while you're talking (13:15) . However, the balance and F/B seems to be a little off . I suggest levelling them by using a small single speaker facing upwards in the middle of the room, playing white noise and then you can level and EQ the microphones pretty easily . Many "00s and "10s Surround systems came with a microphone, to basically do the opposite . Then do a final touch up by ear and add reverb or whatever else, you may come up with. Hope I'll be able to visit some day, until then, greetings from Germany
Two weeks ago I got a flat tire and I watched the last video from the tire center lobby. Somehow I got another slow tire leak a couple days ago and you uploaded this just in time for me to watch it once again from this lobby. Thanks for keeping me sane. 😂
The organ tuning sounds 100x better than in the last video, amazing work getting it to that point on your own! For recording / using the mics, it would probably be best to use a single pair at a time, arranged in a stereo configuration (X/Y or ORTF) to save any issues with phasing between the two pairs in the room.
I wonder if boundary microphones would well in this application. I used a couple PZM microphones in an old school house with a piano and it sounded amazing.
@@FeelingLikeThatNow the great thing with PZMs is they can make the room sound twice as big if they're taped to a wall or ceiling. I used to record with mine taped to a door.
Great to see you on Sonicstate Sam, was shocked how down to Earth you are, well not shocked in a bad way, just really happy that you're a cool grounded guy. Thanks for posting vids like these, they're awesome.
The best thing about 4K is being able to read the sign on the organ. Wholesome. "Due To some Rework on the organ this past week it is quite out of tune today! We do apologise, give it a go! But don't expect it to be perfect today :D "
Went to the museum a couple of weeks ago and experienced the organ first hand. Too too cool... and the museum is absolutely insane... really wanna go back and sample up everything ..! //spike
This is just such an amazing story. It brings a smile to my face every time you put out a piece about the organ. Both you and Joan are the best type of people. Saving the organ in the first place, and then _again_.
No digital synth (and most analog too) can't even try to compete, even the most expensive ones, with THAT sound. Incredible. Marvelous machine. Really cool to give it a new life.
I have an idea. A “Look Mum An Organ”plugin. But not an emulation. You send a midi file and the organ plays it in real time and you record it into your DAW. Wait times could get long, but it would be so worth it.
Sounds very nice. I still can't get over that people are not hyping the synth-organ crossoverpiece of yours more, I think it was absolutely genious. The one a few (joans organ) videos back
Brilliant work Sam. I am sure Joan would be thrilled with this! Wholesome full bodied sounds and I agree with the other comments that touch of Verb reallys adds too the FLAVOUR!
I love the little rant about “if you have problems, just move ’em!”, it’s so true. Sometimes the theory is just far too time consuming for its own good. See also: how did they know how to align Stonehenge/Pyramids/ancient-crypts to astronomical phenomena? They waited until the relevant day came round and then lined them up!
Its really interesting how the hymns you had (11:25 immortal Invisible) really show how a midi of the 'notes' doesn't 'play' the organ like a human organist would. The defining characteristic of organ playing is how you choose to 'end' the note just as much as you choose to 'start' it. Cause a piano string has a natural decay anyways, let alone the dampers (both of which organs don't have) when playing the organ you have to use a style known as 'detache' where you consciously include micro-breaks between the notes (very very very short of course but enough to give clear definition to the end of the note just as much as the start of the next). Its really interesting to hear that difference.
If you manage to get automated public internet playing and recording setup I think you might start an entire internet trend/genre where people can make awesome organ "covers" of ANY kind of song. I could see the recordings being put into games, weddings, tiktok trends and all sorts of unique places, and I am so here for it :D
The organ sounds AMAZING through the mic setup, and I enjoyed watching you set up the interface to record it; mixing the close and far mics. The playback device or visitors was a great idea too. As someone who CAN play the keyboard, I think I'd very much enjoy playing the instrument and sitting back listening to some of those songs on the device. And THANK YOU for not adding a touchscreen!!! As someone with low vision, considered legally blind, I HATE the profusion of inaccessible touchscreens on everything from self-checkouts to softdrink machines!! The only touchscreens I use are iOS devices with VoiceOver screen reader, but not for music-making! Okay, signing off now that I've written a book!! :)
That sounds fantastic compared to the old camera audio! The organ itself is sounding fantastic as well! Nice job getting it in good order and thank you for sharing this wonderful project with us!
I visited the museum a couple weeks ago, it was soooo good!!! just wish i knew more about how to use syths and also me being able to play a bit of piano would have been good... playing waltz of the fleas (the only thing i can play) on the famous church organ was a lot of fun anyway! Would 100% come back again for a guided tour
That sounds absolutely awesome, especially with the touch of reverb. Thanks to Røde for the sweet equipment that helps take an already-special instrument next-level!
As a final tribute to finishing the organ, you should put the year of the organ's completion (with the numbers) on the hymn board. Also something fun you should put a message into the board, like how a telephone has numbers that correlate to letters, you should put a message on the board with the numbers. So you need to look at a telephone to figure out what it says, kind of a fun little thing you could do as a fun easter egg. Maybe like "This is Joan Orgn 2023" or something like that.
This entire project absolutely pegs the cool meter. So very well done. I can't wait to hear it when you get it fully tuned and a real organist to play it. Maybe you can talk Anna Lapwood into giving it a go?
Touchscreens are where good UI Design goes to die, good on ya for not goin that way. Nothing beats a real button or knob to give you tactile feedback I hate using a touchscreen keyboard, it’s been a decade & I’ve not gotten any better at it
Loved to hear the Tetris gameboy tracks. Ones called Type A and Type B. Could be really cool. Great project this mate, watching since day one. Nice one
Sam! That sounds amazing! Just your maintenance/tuning with a nice mic setup and the difference is actually incredible. It's almost as if you really did Know What You're Doing... 🤔
I'm perfectly fine watching another year of Look mum an organ! No need to finish this project 💔
Same. It's what got me to subscribe. Before that I was just an occasional viewer
totally!
LOL
I'm looking forward to a year of interesting organ music!
Yeah, we're Lovin' the journey!
Coming from a professional sound engineer of 7 years from a large Church: Great job. Ambient is definitely the way to go for an organ. I'm astounded at how well that organ sound expands even in such a small room. (The reverb was a nice touch too.) Props to Rode for contributing to the ongoing experiment. 👍
Okay I know this is old news but I just want to say how much the LEDs lighting up the pipes makes a huge difference in making the organ feel alive
not to mention the help with the tuning...
Love the LEDs, simple yet effective
I'd love to see it with the overhead lights off
Thank you. Giggles 😊
very Animusic
You don't often hear a pipe organ in a small room like this, and it's a very cool sound
You want to feel it too!
When you hit the low notes, it's awesome!
I’m actually really excited for when he gets (whom I presume to be Anna Lapwood) in, because of this specifically.
I’m intrigued to hear what she thinks of that dynamic.
It's interesting because you can easily add a big church reverb to this, but in a church you can't take the reverb away!
It would be cool if you call the original tuning company that's written on the console (I checked some videos ago and they're still open) to tune the organ as it always was tuned!
But... DIY!?
@@greatestytcommentator he said he doesn't want to... it would be nice tho
Keep in mind the pipes are apparently from several different locations originally, though I agree with the sentiment, it would be cool to see that tuning company show up
@@spearmintderg exactly my point! Althought the reed and string pipes are pretty damaged hahah
@@spearmintderg ok, so checking out on the Internet again it seems like that J.W. Walker and Sons are not just organ tuners but also organ builders! But as I said it seems like they're still running their company
Boy that sounds so good! That little touch of reverb really works wonders!
You can actually hear some stereo separation with this setup as well. Sounds like being there!
Oh, mate, the Anna Lapwood collab, to which I'm assuming you're referring, would be great, but have just loved this series so much, and can go as long as long as you like. Best thing ever rescuing this marvelous creation 👍
I love this "if all else fails, consult the manual" approach with the microphones.
Also works for the organ! haha
Really? Using a manual? I thought the whole talk about placing Microphones would show the manual is to be left in the box haha
Great work Sam - looks and sounds great!
Just remember to disable the high-pass filter on the RODECaster, to allow those big pipes to really come through in the bass.
Can't wait to hear more!
Aha! Oh yeah forgot the hi pass! Ahaa well I have another vid with setup in a couple of days I'll be doing so ha. Oops. Cheers!
Nice! For recording, one thing I like to do when I have multiple microphones is to keep the close microphones dry and apply the reverb (and possibly some delay) to the far mics. When mixed, it can make a small room sound large. It also reduces problems with phase cancellation.
Sam, you better fill that room with some smoke, turn the lights down and make a video playing some spooky tunes for Halloween!
Also what an absolute legend you are Sam. Thanks for all your efforts, and I'm glad humans like you exist. You make us all better people.
@@georgihristov4415 He already did, not such a good idea... look at the old videos.
Dressed as the Phantom of the Opera. And I need to hear In the Hall of the Mountain King at least once on this amazing setup.
Vapor through pipes de tunes it. Fog air is denser and the tuning goes flat.
@@michaelshultz2540 It would add to the Halloween feel
And as soon as the fog is gone the tuning goes back to normal.
The most realistic midi organ ever :3
Wow Sam!! That sound was just epic!!! She sounded good just on the camera mics but now... just don't have the words!!!
It would be very cool indeed if Miss Lapwood were to visit and play your lovely pipe organ!
Ooooooh yes good idea
You should be seriously PROUD of what you have (re) created here. Beautiful, and dam it sounds fantastic!
The new mics sounds amazing. I've just absolutely loved the organ project. You inspire me! Your music, your wide-ranging skills, and your irreverent, fun-loving sense of humor all make me very happy. I'm a bit sad that this particular project is winding down, but know I'll have fun checking out your other ventures. If I ever make it over to London, *This Museum Is Not Obsolete* is right up there with Abbey Road for me to visit.
The microphones are awesome, just set the noise gate correctly or better yet, see if you can find a gated noise filter instead or realise that idea with the given effects . The microphones are arranged pretty well too, you can quite easily tell which way your head is facing, while you're talking (13:15) . However, the balance and F/B seems to be a little off . I suggest levelling them by using a small single speaker facing upwards in the middle of the room, playing white noise and then you can level and EQ the microphones pretty easily . Many "00s and "10s Surround systems came with a microphone, to basically do the opposite . Then do a final touch up by ear and add reverb or whatever else, you may come up with.
Hope I'll be able to visit some day, until then,
greetings from Germany
Two weeks ago I got a flat tire and I watched the last video from the tire center lobby. Somehow I got another slow tire leak a couple days ago and you uploaded this just in time for me to watch it once again from this lobby. Thanks for keeping me sane. 😂
The universe has a sense of humor sometimes
The organ tuning sounds 100x better than in the last video, amazing work getting it to that point on your own!
For recording / using the mics, it would probably be best to use a single pair at a time, arranged in a stereo configuration (X/Y or ORTF) to save any issues with phasing between the two pairs in the room.
I wonder if boundary microphones would well in this application. I used a couple PZM microphones in an old school house with a piano and it sounded amazing.
@@FeelingLikeThatNow the great thing with PZMs is they can make the room sound twice as big if they're taped to a wall or ceiling. I used to record with mine taped to a door.
@@FeelingLikeThatNow All depends on the room I guess!
Great to see you on Sonicstate Sam, was shocked how down to Earth you are, well not shocked in a bad way, just really happy that you're a cool grounded guy.
Thanks for posting vids like these, they're awesome.
I would really like to hear the full version of "you don't know what you are dooooooooing." 🤣
The best thing about 4K is being able to read the sign on the organ.
Wholesome.
"Due To some Rework on the organ this past week it is quite out of tune today!
We do apologise, give it a go! But don't expect it to be perfect today :D "
Went to the museum a couple of weeks ago and experienced the organ first hand. Too too cool... and the museum is absolutely insane... really wanna go back and sample up everything ..! //spike
As a Swede I feel obligated to recommend getting in touch with Anna Von Hausswolff about playing the organ.
The lack of space takes away the reverb and echo compared to a church, makes it sound like a fairground organ
And that's a bad thing? No :D
Sounds like you're volunteering to pay the rent on a bigger place for Sam's museum. How kind.
Honestly this might already be one of the best permanent organ recording solutions around. This is lovely!
It sounds so so good!
This is just such an amazing story. It brings a smile to my face every time you put out a piece about the organ.
Both you and Joan are the best type of people. Saving the organ in the first place, and then _again_.
You're right Sam, it sounds pretty damn good! Is so cool to have a pipe organ in the museum. I wish I lived in the UK so I could see the museum!
No digital synth (and most analog too) can't even try to compete, even the most expensive ones, with THAT sound. Incredible. Marvelous machine. Really cool to give it a new life.
5:19 Now I'm picturing the museum as a wedding venue. I'm sure there are couples out there who would be delighted!
It's amazing how much that little bit of reverb changes the feel of the organ! Awesome work, I love seeing these videos :)
I have an idea. A “Look Mum An Organ”plugin. But not an emulation. You send a midi file and the organ plays it in real time and you record it into your DAW. Wait times could get long, but it would be so worth it.
Sounds like you found the panning feature. Great reproduction. Can't wait for the tuning (although you've got it fairly close!!).
2:38 - Love the 'Philip Glass' type tune! 😁😁😁😁
Sounds very nice. I still can't get over that people are not hyping the synth-organ crossoverpiece of yours more, I think it was absolutely genious. The one a few (joans organ) videos back
Brilliant work Sam. I am sure Joan would be thrilled with this! Wholesome full bodied sounds and I agree with the other comments that touch of Verb reallys adds too the FLAVOUR!
That Bach was a great surprise. I really want an organ at home now.
Sounds wonderful with a bit of reverb. Now it really has the feel of a proper church organ.
The Queen's Funeral March, the introduction song of A Clockwork Orange, was the best possible choice. A well deserved like, Sir!
I love the little rant about “if you have problems, just move ’em!”, it’s so true. Sometimes the theory is just far too time consuming for its own good.
See also: how did they know how to align Stonehenge/Pyramids/ancient-crypts to astronomical phenomena? They waited until the relevant day came round and then lined them up!
I always enjoy your "internet heckler" impressions lol
This setup sounds chuffing brill, really clear with a nice subtle reverb. What a beauty!
Really enjoyed my visit and meeting you the other week. I love the idea of the organ being played by musicians remotely across the Internet.
+1 for the numbers on the board
The Lavender Town theme is a good choice.
This project came such a long way, very nice sound with your Rode mics.
This is so cool. Not too many people can say they have an organ, and one that they more or less put together themselves at that.
Simple enough suggestion indeed.
Thank you. I would have never in my life heard this music otherwise
Its really interesting how the hymns you had (11:25 immortal Invisible) really show how a midi of the 'notes' doesn't 'play' the organ like a human organist would.
The defining characteristic of organ playing is how you choose to 'end' the note just as much as you choose to 'start' it. Cause a piano string has a natural decay anyways, let alone the dampers (both of which organs don't have) when playing the organ you have to use a style known as 'detache' where you consciously include micro-breaks between the notes (very very very short of course but enough to give clear definition to the end of the note just as much as the start of the next).
Its really interesting to hear that difference.
But that midi was recorded by an organist recording on an organ. It wasn't programmed
Oh dude, that sounds so fantastic. So much more rich sounding with the mics added 😀
If you manage to get automated public internet playing and recording setup I think you might start an entire internet trend/genre where people can make awesome organ "covers" of ANY kind of song. I could see the recordings being put into games, weddings, tiktok trends and all sorts of unique places, and I am so here for it :D
Hans Zimmer' wet dream this. Fantastic work so far!
You're so awesome Sam. Thanks for sharing this with us.
I could sit in that room for hours listening to Bach. Would take me back to hearing my dad play the organ. He died back in 2020 of you-know-what.
The organ sounds AMAZING through the mic setup, and I enjoyed watching you set up the interface to record it; mixing the close and far mics. The playback device or visitors was a great idea too. As someone who CAN play the keyboard, I think I'd very much enjoy playing the instrument and sitting back listening to some of those songs on the device. And THANK YOU for not adding a touchscreen!!! As someone with low vision, considered legally blind, I HATE the profusion of inaccessible touchscreens on everything from self-checkouts to softdrink machines!! The only touchscreens I use are iOS devices with VoiceOver screen reader, but not for music-making! Okay, signing off now that I've written a book!! :)
8:30 wow, the museum seems to always have "just one more" room to fill! great stuff
Wow that sound is awesome, made my hair stand up listening to it with IEMs. Keep up the good work!! 👍
That sounds great!! Have played organs like this, the new mics make such a difference to the sound. I’ve really enjoyed this journey
That sounds fantastic compared to the old camera audio! The organ itself is sounding fantastic as well! Nice job getting it in good order and thank you for sharing this wonderful project with us!
Brilliant, the organ just keeps getting better and better!
I love it! I think Widors Toccata would be a great test for this beauty!
That outro is one of the funniest things I've seen this week. 😂 Awesome update on the organ.
Thank you for your loving attention to detail in bringing this gem to life!
The Rode NT1 series of microphones are fantastic. The NT1A was a legend back in the day.
I visited the museum a couple weeks ago, it was soooo good!!! just wish i knew more about how to use syths and also me being able to play a bit of piano would have been good... playing waltz of the fleas (the only thing i can play) on the famous church organ was a lot of fun anyway! Would 100% come back again for a guided tour
Nice work Sam! I have no idea watcha on about but I'm watching!
Living the dream! Amazing result from the beginning to now. Genius!
That sounds absolutely awesome, especially with the touch of reverb. Thanks to Røde for the sweet equipment that helps take an already-special instrument next-level!
As a final tribute to finishing the organ, you should put the year of the organ's completion (with the numbers) on the hymn board. Also something fun you should put a message into the board, like how a telephone has numbers that correlate to letters, you should put a message on the board with the numbers. So you need to look at a telephone to figure out what it says, kind of a fun little thing you could do as a fun easter egg. Maybe like "This is Joan Orgn 2023" or something like that.
You are a hero of the internet. Never stop!
Very cool! I'm really enjoying this series of videos, and I think I'll miss it when it's complete.
That thing sounds so much bigger with the stereo mics. Absolutely incredible
That sounds amazing! I love the idea of being able to play it over the internet, and looking forward to it.
I'm surprised only one valve got stuck.
God on Rode, sounds so good, much better than before.
The sound difference is night and day, wow that sounds good.
This entire project absolutely pegs the cool meter. So very well done. I can't wait to hear it when you get it fully tuned and a real organist to play it. Maybe you can talk Anna Lapwood into giving it a go?
Nice one Sam just that touch of reverb makes all the difference! Well done me old son.
The box with midi songs just makes me want to put this whole contraption back in to a house and using it as the doorbell.
Superb sound, I've heard many professionally tuned organs that didn't sound so good, and I've been to many organ recitals.
When everything finally comes together, this has such a heartwarming beauty !
oh wow, the mic's really help soften the really high pitched pipes!
got all the important numbers up on the wall, each minus 1, love it
Playing that hymn is going to give anyone raised in the church flashbacks. Not sure I was fully aware a pipe organ could play anything besides that.
These organ vids light up my month.
Touchscreens are where good UI Design goes to die, good on ya for not goin that way. Nothing beats a real button or knob to give you tactile feedback
I hate using a touchscreen keyboard, it’s been a decade & I’ve not gotten any better at it
You saved this beautiful instrument. You have made it relevant once more.
It sounds so good, awesome project! I can;'t wait for the next installment!
Wow these sequences sound really good on an organ
Loved to hear the Tetris gameboy tracks. Ones called Type A and Type B. Could be really cool. Great project this mate, watching since day one. Nice one
Great stuff Sam! I finally noticed the hymn numbers and had a laugh! As a long time programmer, I am also always off by one!
Nice work. The tuning and mics worked out very well. Thank you sir.
After watching all the videos hearing the organ like this was really epic. Well done!
Wow it sounds so good!! Beautiful!
Sam! That sounds amazing! Just your maintenance/tuning with a nice mic setup and the difference is actually incredible.
It's almost as if you really did Know What You're Doing... 🤔
Your work ethic and sense of fun is just outstanding ... encore!
Nice! I love hearing how this organ rebuild is progressing.
thnx for this long series, it sounds truly back alive
your approach to microphone phase problems is absolute genius. please write a book that i can show my audiophile friends