The Truth About Military Snipers
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2021
- Sixteen snipers from across defence have gone head-to-head in an unusual twist on the annual Tri-Service Sniper Championships.
Due to COVID-19 and operational commitments, many teams were unable to join this year, so the contest became more of a ‘sniper symposium’ - where the best of the best from the Army, RAF and MET police forces came together to share skills and expertise.
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At 1:15 Rumor has it that each side of his moustache has at least 5 confirmed hand to hand combat kills.
it was a solid moustache
I came here for the tache comment, as any true shooter would.
I had the pleasure of Wez Dale 1:26 as my Section Commander during Basic Training. He could shoot the wings off a Butterfly at 300m; This man has talent. A true hero.
Dayymn bro sounds like you knew a legend
3:21 corio effect on a bullet
I wonder what flat earther gonna react when they became sniper and had to account for this effect
You think they could higher than their fingers? You're giving them a wee bit too much credit there.
Maybe the flat Earth spins like an old record?
@@HO-bndk this tickled me.
You assuming flat earthers have brains for sniping
Experts: You need to take into account the coriolis effect
F Earther: Refraction...
I've never shot a target past 600m, imagine hitting something 1500m away, amazing.
Get a modern rifle, a laser range finder, a ballistic computer and a telescope that would let you read a paper on the moon and it's not so amazing. Give them an old Lee-Enfield and a crappy old no.31 scope and none of these guys could reliably hit anything much beyond about 800 yards.
@@HO-bndk I had a go with a Lee Enfield from 1943 on the range once. This old rifle and me made 100mm group at 400m with iron sights.
9 Miles ;)
@@HO-bndk why is that ?
You got me thinking now. Don't the ranges go to 800? For some reason I think GPMG was also at 800.
One of the DS looks like he spends too much time in the NAAFI sniping pies and the Victoria Sponge.
Lolz!
It's known as a "tactical tummy"
1. It's 3 Division (2nd option) and I'm guessing standards are lower
2. He's probably been in 10+ years, and is the RCO
he probably works a desk job lol
I qual'd as an Aussie Sniper at School of Infantry Singleton NSW 1977.
These fellas know there trade. Masters.
Respect…
All those that serve. Thank you.
Thank you mate.
Loved the gentle treatment of the casualties...🤯
Completely normal way to evac a casualty during an engagement in the defence world.
You’d rather have a few cuts and bruises than be dead…
There is nothing gentle going on during a contact mate.
Can we all just appreciate that Tash of his 🏅
When I hear about snipers 😯😯
They’re really looking after that casualty as they drag it down the stairs, lol.
Loving the clearly realistically weighted 'casualty' 😅
I like the respect for these guys, no faces, no full names, after Rob Furlong's record shot, the Canadian media showed his face, gave out his name and even announced where he grew up... career pretty much over after that.
Even the O.B wearing Crye precision 👌🏻
The CTFSO’s are in Arc’teryx Leaf
I don't believe Arc'teryx produce trousers with an external knee pad, and certainly not in that style. I think MT is spot on saying that they are Crye. The cut, position of pockets and pads of the trousers is identical with the Crye G3-which makes sense as the Met issue Crye to their ARVOs, one of which appears to be present in this video.
El Bob Met CTSFOs have also now been issued Crye G3 uniforms, first seen on Twitter and then the G7 summit. The officers in this video are in Ranger Green Crye, given they’re tactical rifle officers- so makes sense for rural operations. The guy with the C2R carrier is Met CTSFO TRO, the guy with the black TacTec is an ARV TRO whose CT TRO qualified.
@@osiris8637 Sorry if I wasn't clear I was saying that the ARVOs get issued what is still considered rather Gucci gear, its not just the CTSFOs-was just expecting some people to point it's issuance as evidence as only being CTSFOs.
@@Qwertyhutr There’s no national standard uniform for AFO/ARVs/CTSFO and differs force to force. Met, BTP and CoLP issue crye, although Met AFOs are still using their older uniform. Other forces commonly use first tactical or 5.11, or other less well known brands.
3:45 calculated guess work. Nice
Love the comedy moustache
3:14 Sorry, mates but you were taught wrong. Humid air is _less_ dense than dry air.
I remember watching a program a year or so ago that was breaking down the shot that the JTF2 sniper took and got a kill at 3540 meters. To say the least snipers almost have to be a scientist, weatherman, astrologist and many others in order to make a shot.
They have to shoot where they expect the target will be not where the target currently is
Curvature of the earth
How long will the bullet be in the air
Wind, humidity, time of day, heat cold, air temperature and so on
Which way will the bullet spin and adjust accordingly
Will it be a clear shot or travel through any obstacle(s)
Gravity plays a factor as well
Then to top it off the shooter may have to fire more than one shot to hit the target especially at distance and do the calculations all over again.
I have enough trouble remembering which foot goes into what shoe kudos to these remarkable people
They'd only be an astrologist if they're accounting for the right star signs to land their shots!
@@mountainsnotwaves7874 in my defence I was tired when I wrote it
@@deans6129 that's alright, it's an easy mistake to make! Besides, snipers need all the help they can get, who's to say Mercury in Retrograde wouldn't help...
@@mountainsnotwaves7874 "Mercury is in retrograde, adjust up two clicks."
Royal marines? Didn't they get an invite or was it lost in the post due to they keep winning !
they were to busy this year however a pair did turn up for a presentation at the end of the comp
Just couldn’t eat as many pies as the DS
My goodness, they've lost all their consonants!
Asss if He was my nco during basic training wearing the cap and book 😳
Snipers without sniper rifles.
Were are the royal marines and paratroopers though
Marines is navy para is army
@@eod6348 I see thankyou
Just wondering is there any reason the Navy and Marines are not included?
I think it is enough that the army must hold the hands of the RAF. There are no handback lockers at the range so the Navy and Marines stay at home. Ok, banter over. They have their own cardre I guess.
The sun does NOT rise in the east and set in the west due to coriolis effect. It's because the earth is spinning. Coriolis effect is the defection of an object from a straight line of travel due to the earth turning beneath it - northern hemisphere to the right, southern hemisphere to the left ...
He didn’t want to give away secrets of the earth’s movements 😉
Didn't invite the RMPRA lol
I presume the police contingent are from CTSFO?
they are, if you look at there weapons (they love the suppressor cover) and they are wearing Arc’teryx Leaf
@@TheBenchPressMan nope they aren't wearing any arcteryx in this video, crye G3's in RG it is. Iam assuming they are a mixed team of diffrent police forces of the Met
One's a CTSFO the other is an ARVO. You can tell the difference as the latter is wearing a black plate carrier, has a drop leg holster and has the asterix patch that commonly denotes ARVs.
Judging from the Wolf grey I would assume so, only CTSFO wear wolf grey carriers
@@Qwertyhutr - I know im late, but the black plate is also CT. If you look at 2:27 the back of the plate has the standard Met 'CT TFO' rifles patch (this patch is sometimes in green for the G3s) -- also the front of the vest, that bold police text is CT, and the astrix firearms marker isn't used by ARVS anywhere
Chaps, you have to admit the distances shot are not that far. I was expecting 1200 to 1600m, 800 to 1000mts maybe as a shorter range. Brilliant skills shown though.
It's worth noting they were using sharp shooter rifles not sniper rifles... Not sure why tho and no idea what the coppers were using
So the .338 Is Currently out of service which is why we was using sharpshooter, and the Met was using Sig
@@danielstanton5162 cmon Danny boy, we all know raf remfs don’t ain’t aloud to get their mitts on the 338s. For real snipers only lad
@@danielstanton5162 it's a reunion up in here 🤣
why do snipers require anonymity like special forces even if they are just from a regular army unit?
British snipers family actually received death threats and prank calls telling them their loved ones had been killed by the Taliban.
Due to the nature of their role they are typically responsible for a lot of enemy casualties and thus are a very valuable asset
Because of their lethality they are are often sought out as a high value target to eliminate.
Any reason why he is using the L129A1 sharpshooter rifle over the L115A3 Sniper rifle? You don’t have to be a Sniper to use the L129
L115A3 isn’t being used army wide at the moment due to faults with the weapon systems. Should be back in service soon but in the meantime everyone is using Sharpshooter instead
Interesting ........
Whey the royal Marines at 😭😭😭😭😭
Believe they have there own sniper course which is the hardest in the world not sure why they aren’t here though
pretty sure the guy doing the assessing with the baseball cap and peltor (look at 0:58 - 1minute) is RM cause if you look on his arm, his rank slide is that of RM C/SGT's rather than army SGT's
@@joelsanders8791 Think it's just a staffy isn't it?
@@joshuagallop7298 RM don’t have Staff’s they have colours instead and if you look at the arrows, they’re too sharp to be army, those are rm slides, plus if you look, compared to the other troops, he’s in Crye rather than mtp
@@joelsanders8791 so the RM couldn't attend due to other engagements, but they did attend on the final day for the "show and tell" part, the other guys you are referring to are SASC who where the guys running the competition.
Who won? 🤔
Yeag but who won?
Surprising that the target and trajectory is not just calculated electronically these days.
Tier 1 SF snipers do the formula in their heads, as it’s quicker. Lessons learned in Afghan and Iraq, taking snap shots in urban environments, where you don’t have time to “dial the phone number.” You do the math in your head and use the mills graticules instead of dialling in for wind and range. I left before this stuff started trickling down to regular forces, but my understanding is that some of the top snipers in Army/RM/RAF Regt are employing these techniques now.
In an urban environment ie shorter range, its just hold over /under using the mildots in the scope. No need for wind or the many other factors to be calculated.
At extreme long ranges, there are range finders, wind speed meters and time for both using apps or pen and paper calcs most of the time.
The British army don’t have tier 1 snipers. You have trained snipers and that’s it. In my day we all learned the same techniques. Then you bring your own soldering skills into the equation . I once talked to US snipers in Berlin. They all seemed to overthink everything . Where the brits seemed just to adjust our shots. Maybe that’s why you said they had changed the way they calculated the shot. Plus you have to remember that the us military frowned on snipers between ww2 and Vietnam.
@@herbie70philip SAS and SBS don’t have snipers….. okay 👍
@@herbie70philip tier 1 refers to the special forces ( Hereford and Poole), who have snipers. They go through the Royal marines sniper course (13 weeks) to learn the the art.
Is there a reason why the Royal Navy isn’t taking part in this championship? Do the Navy not have snipers?!
How do you become a sniper
In the uk? Join the army, infantry and do a very difficult course.
You might start with becoming an infantryman.
When you join an infantry battalion. You become a rifleman or you can go to support company. Then you can do a snipers course. Remember you won’t become god among the men. It’s just another course under your belt. Plus you rebadge one a year. To make sure your skills are up to scratch. And another thing you can be called upon to do. I was a mortar man that done a snipers course. Mostly your lying down getting soaked. A lot of the time your sent out with your spotter just to a recce.
@@meme4one As soon as you start saying things are difficult then that is what they become.
@@xlprop6687 it's a difficult course with very high standards - of course you need the right mental attitude but even then, it's designed to be hard 👍🏻
Imagine the day when powerful lazer weapons go hand held. There'll no longer be a need for all the trajectories and stuff. It'll be aim and shoot, plain and simple. When that day come, this entire are will fall apart.
Maybe by then you'll learn it's spelled LASER.
memories..crickowell
The cops aren’t snipers. They just perch on a roof and sharpshoot
Snipers from WW2 were the best
Boer war chaps got taught a lesson by the farmers. Really had to upskill. WW1 riflemen shot to 1200yds as standard i believe. 1400yds to 1800yds was classed as 'long'.
@@allanfoster6965 What about the Finnish sniper known as the "White Death" whose tally was over 500 Russian soldiers killed during the Winter War. He did not use telescopic sights.
@@johnroche7541 A specialist then. I was trying to point out that marksmanship as a whole across the British Army was far above what it seems to be today. Yes there were those who couldn't hit a barn door from 10 yds, but not very many. The majority of infantry men and in many cases cavalry men too could shoot to an extremely high standard.
@@johnroche7541 simo häyhä was his name
My point was that snipers from WW2 didn't use all those modern devices that use snipers nowdays . And still they were very good with only a scope mounted on a rifle and a good camouflage
"The sun rises in the east and sets in the west'due' to the Coriolis effect".....Really??? I thought it was due to the rotation of the planet.
Coriolis effect is the 'Receding' target (W to E), the 'Proceeding' target (E to W) and the lateral movement of a target (N to S / S to N).
BTW, it's also down to the direction of spin when water goes down a plug hole etc. Clockwise or Anti Clockwise when in either the northern or southern hemispheres.
Anyway, where are the 'Bootnecks'? Those boys know more than a thing or two about sniping, certainly more than the RAF or Rozzers do.
yeah and even then the sun rising east to west is not really that simple depending on where you are in the world and what time of year it is as the earth isn't just spinning around the axis, the axis is also rotating ! then there is the spin of the round which is dictated by the thread of the barrel clockwise/anti clockwise which is mechanical and has nothing to do with the spin of the earth so if you were firing north to south with a barrel thread to spin the round clockwise you'd require more aim off on a long shot than you would firing south to north but ofcourse there is more than one direction we are moving all the time.
Hmmm.. Royal marines snipers?
RM Snipers best of the best i know i was one and also a police sniper.
@@patricktracey7424 yeah I thought so, but they were not shown in this video were they? And they did say tri service?
Who won?……..🤷🏻♂️
Army
@@danielstanton5162 I always thought The regiment had better snipers………
Top killers these chaps
Who won though.. that's what matters 🤔
Results were:
Army 1617
RAF Reg 1598
Police 6 (but collared two RAF gunners and an Army corporal for using nasty sweary words, non-crime hate incidents and littering)
Who won!!!
Army A
@@danielstanton5162 sweet. Thank you.
The Coriolis Effect is not the reason the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. That happens simply because the Earth spins to the East and we lose sight of it as the earth spins on its axis. This is just a statement made by someone who does not understand fully the effects on a bullet in flight. The Coriolis Effect concerns the pattern of deflection taken by objects not firmly connected to the ground as they travel long distances around the Earth as the earth spins on its axis. The effect has less influence at the poles and more towards the equator and the effect works in opposite directions in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. It concerns travel over distance and time where rotation of the earth causes objects to deflect to the right in the Northern Hemisphere and left in the Southern Hemisphere. The effect equally effects weather patterns and ocean currents. In reality, whilst it is a factor in longer range rifle shooting, the effect is minimal due to time taken for a billet to travel its course against spinning of the earth on its access. It is also not a conscious calculation made by the sniper In ordered for them to ‘aim off’, which they shouldn’t be doing. A computer may calculate this alongside atmospherics to input any adjustments to the sights over range, but non computer based, solely human judged sight adjustment, accounting for any minutes of angle increment changes would not include a mathematical equation! The effect can be more apparent in distances beyond 1000yds and should be accounted for. The Eötvös Effect is another factor that can influence the rise and fall of a projectile when fired to the east or the west….
Rubbish - the earth is flat
Coriolis effect happens to target that move and not firmly connected to the earth , your words yeah ,what happens to fixed grounded targets at a 1000 yards from central point at north, west, east or south . According to you it won’t be effected as they grounded targets to the ground . Think you should look at this test and it’s results , it shows exactly how it’s effected
Clearly the chap talking about coriolis needs to brush up on his ballistics knowledge. It's not what he said it was at all. It's simply the deviation from point of aim to point of impact that a projectile takes due to the earth's spin, and nothing to do with where the sun rises and sets except for determination of east to west compared with target point. The effect of coriolis also varies with Latitude due to the difference in earth's circumference from poles to equator and to the axis of spin. For example, shooting east-west or west-east at the equator from a distance of 1000yds, from point of shot to point of impact the deviation due to the earth's movement about the equator is about 2.5 to 3 inches. It doesn't really have any significant effect until out at 1000yds plus. Up to that distance, variables due to wind, ambient temperature, humidity and powder temperature have a far greater bearing, as do they further out. This is usually far less of an effect than the difference in consistency of ammo shot to shot wrt muzzle velocity when shooting at distance so for all practical purposes can be ignored under 1000 yds. There's also dynamic jump, latitude dependable, humidity, atmospheric pressure etc but the greatest effect is windage. Shooting at distance across valleys also brings in wind shear effects so measured wind speed at point of shot will be much higher at the mid point across a valley due to the shear effect slowing wind velocity at ground level compared with at altitude. Powder temperature can have a marked effect on MV's too so for consistency, ammo should not be left to cook in the sun! As the guys say on the video, there's much more to it than point and shoot. Concealment and above all, the ability to accurately judge distances, on training usually without the aid of EDM devices, hence things like good old fashioned Milldot estimation based on estimated size of target becomes a useful too. 1 Milliradian at 100m being 10cm and so on (so a man sized target at 1000m would be about 2m tall which equates to 2 Milliradians bracketed at full height between milhashes).
Do long-distance snipers consider earth-based Coriolis effect when shooting?
Yes but it's minimal, only really an effect over 1000m
@@meme4one I don't believe you, can you provide the sniper notations, or video demonstration or any sort of proof?
@@nathanyamaha465 Why ask the question if you don't believe the answer. If you want proof, do your own research instead of making someone else work for you.
@@thiccdaddy7083 I'm asking for evidence, this is part of research. You gotta know or get in contact with actual snipers to figure this one out.
Well one of the snipers in the video mentions that you do, but the effect is minimal at around 1000m, and that weapon system is accurate to 1500m, where the coriolis effect is more pronounced. For longer range systems, such as the 0.5” Barrett, then it’s even more prominent in calculating. If you read up on the top 5 longest combat shots, all shooters mention it as part of their calculations.
300 to 600 metres I could hit that with iron sights with my 7.62 SLR. 300 metres I did 60 out of sixty with iron sights and got a 4” group in basic training eventually getting my cross rifles for marksman. Miss though days 👍 but that was in the late seventies and early eighties and I was a mere boy 😂😂
Snipers are the Sneaky Bastards of War!!
I want to know who won haha??
The RAF apparently
Army A won.
Boring role mental and physical draining unsociable hours
The fact is that the work of a tactical sniper is 95% intelligence gathering, 4% communications and 1% actual engaging and suppressing targets
300-600 with a 4x scope I assume? Thats easy, we shot 500m with iron sights with the good ol m16
🤣
These guys are good but the best reside in the US
I would say, as a generalisation, you would be right. It's an advantage to be shooting from an early age. Something I was lucky enough to do, even in the UK.
However, the record sniper shots have come from Canadian and British snipers. Plus we make the best rifles in the world.😀
"Best" is relative! Funny how every nation think "They´re the best..................."
No. The best reside in Canada. That’s why they hold the record for the longest recorded sniper kill.
@@paraguard60 ah they make movies about our snipers.
@@ryan976david haven’t seen any movies made about your guys. Just saying .
American sniper
Sniper 1
Sniper 2
The shot
None about Canada.
The statement that “More moisture in the air, more drag on the round” is flat wrong; the opposite is true because humid air is less dense than dry air. This is a somewhat common misconception among novice shooters, but it’s surprising that a military sniper would not know better because any decent ballistics solver will make that clear. In any event, though, minor variations in humidity have little effect on trajectory, even at long distances.
Evidence/ source?
@@charlieknibbs6203 I must be missing something because I posted this reply twice before, but I’ll try again:
There are many Internet sources about air density and humidity. The article I tried to link was "Understanding Air Density and its Effects" by Coast Flight Training. (I gather that links are forbidden which is why my earlier replies were deleted--?)
Effects on bullet trajectory: Using the Applied Ballistics solver for a common load firing the Sierra 0.308 caliber 168 grain MatchKing bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2600 feet per second under standard atmospheric conditions of temperature and altitude. Total drop of bullet at 1500 yards if it were fired with the barrel horizontal at 0% relative humidity (dry air) - 1741 inches; at 100% RH (humid air) - 1730 inches. The bullet drops less in 100% RH air because it’s less dense and its drag on the bullet is less. At 50% RH the bullet drops 1736". At short distances and with smaller differences in humidity, the variations are too small to be concerned about. The effects of variations in air temperature and elevation above sea level are far greater. An increase in air temp from just 60 to 65 degrees F reduces the drop at 1500 yards from 1732 to 1714 inches at 50% RH.
So, no winner announced - it was the RAF Regiment wasn’t it? It’s the ONLY reason why the Pongos wouldn’t want people to know just how well they hadn’t done! 🤣
could have been the MET, they have some very good operators and a lot are ex mil as well
Army A won.
RAF Reg never actually competed. They were just there to watch the gate and patrol the wire for everyone else.
And if the casualty wasn’t a dummy…he certainly would b a casualty it they drag him down a set of step as shown in this …once again proving its all show for utube…how about showing what u would actually do…like in international sniper competition
In reality a few cuts and bruises is better than bleeding out 👍
The police like to shoot from a kneeling position I believe! 😂😂😂😂
I thought it was on all fours. Ha ha
That dude with the mustache looks like Adolf Hitler.
I thought he had a squirrel in his mouth..........................
He looks like "Ole Bill" from the WW1 cartoons.
@@paraguard60 🤣🤣
3:27 "The sun rises in the east and sets in the west due to the Coriolis effect." Back to physics class for you, young sniper.
He didn't say it it rises in the East and sets in the west due to the Coriolis effect then stop. He says "it rises in the East and sets in the West... due to the Coriolis effect, once you're firing a 1000 meters onwards you've got to imagine where that targets going to be not were it is so it can only have a minor effect but 1500 meters if I was to put data on for a centre mass shot it's very likely that shot then would hit left or right of the target due to the Coriolis effect"
James UK, thanks for clearing that up, that is exactly what I said lol.
@@jamesyboy4626 Correctly punctuated, yes. But that's not the way he said it. Regardless, I couldn't hit a barn from 10 yards with a blunderbuss, so all power to his marksmanship.
if you’re shooting from a rooftop you’re not a sniper you’re a sharpshooter. if you’re behind enemy lines and visibly looking like the grass hunting a target. Then you’re a sniper.
ah, an expert on sniping and snipers are you?
Its more to do with the weapon system and the training than where you spawn on you're map Dude
/k/avalier well, I mean, yes.
Irv making a long shot, and 600m is not a long shot, but making a long shot makes your a great shooter. A marksman. Sharpshooter. Not a sniper.
Ok armchair expert.
You stopped showing faces… till the interview started. How are you being upstaged by the Americans?
Check the world for how good killing is. Check longest kill..
@@kai-ht3qs i meant the disgression of faces and propaganda. But yes, we always have the skills to make the kills
@@rat_king- Check longest kill. Not one yank.
@@kai-ht3qs and the finances of the ammo? The constant association of America and weapons, which drowns out our industry and weakens our acknowledgement which is a fine line between silent hidden lethality and no longer significant. Of us as a nation and as an arms manufacturer
@@rat_king- America don't even get into the longest range kill list until the Number 6 spot. Are your comments meant to be sowing discord between two great allies (USA and GB)?
You sound like you're playing at Psyops.
RAF Regiment snipers 😂😂 please don’t take these guys serious, they’re just soldiers with high powered sights. They don’t get the training snipers get lol. Even in this video they called them “Army snipers” even though they’re in the RAF. And notice how they didn’t show the scores at the end? Embarrassing to snipers
No matter what unit be it army, raf regt, or Royal Marines they all have the exact same standards to meet to be a sniper which is closely observed by the sasc
@@xray3966 you know nothing mate. Their standards are nothing compared to the Army. I know as a fact