Do We Want A Smaller Mac Mini?
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Do we want a smaller Mac Mini? With the M1 Pro and Max MacBook Pros, it's inevitable that we'll see an upgrade to the current M1 Mac mini, but is this going to be a smaller Mac Mini and will there be issues with thermal throttling and the fan?
I've reviewed the M1 Mac Mini thoroughly and I can say without a doubt it has been one of my favorite pieces of technology, and literally one of the best business investments I've ever made. Aside from the upgraded Apple silicon chip in this device, can it perform just as well with a smaller footprint?
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Nice one! Looking forward to seeing what that M2 will mean for the Mini, I quite like the option of having a smaller device tucked away for a cleaner desk!
Thanks! And yes, perfect for cleaning up the desk…to make space for all those phone cases 😉
I just started using the base Mac Mini and I love this thing. I wanted the 16gb, but I wanted to try it first and so far, not a single issue. My opinion is that no machine should ever be released with less than 16gb in the future. I just also purchased a late 2012 MacBook Pro for $100 at an auction and upgraded it with an SSD and 16gb of ram and this thing is awesome! Runs Xcode and Final Cut like a dream... I use it every day, along with my base Mini. The Mini has the most potential of all of the Macs in a stationary office setting, and so I hope they focus on that potential and make it rock!
Yes! This thing does have great potential in an office setting. This was the machine I had transitioned to in my other business, although I own that company so it was easy for me to make that decision, but it did take quite a bit of adapting software because this was back in 2009…but so much easier now.
Awesome you’re rocking with the Mini.
2012 was a great yr especially for mac minis !!
2012 was an awesome year for the mini.
Great video. The plexiglass top is supposed to finally address the Bluetooth issues. TECHNICALLY, the Mac Mini is due for both the Pro/Max chips AND the M2. I agree the lineup will still include the 2020 M1, but I believe we’ll also get the overdue M1 Pro/Max chip and Apple will introduce the first “M2” chip based on the A15, with the Mac mini.
I’m really curious to see if there’s any performance difference in the mini with these Pro and Max chips, but honestly I’m thinking not. Apple may let the thermals ride a little higher, or rather have the fan manage this a little better and give us a higher RPM? 🤷♂️
Either way though, I’m excited to test. Love the mini.
Great to have you here BTW.
@@KevinRossRN glad to be here. I think Apple will find a specific way to showcase the Pro/Max chip in the Mini. Battery life and efficiency for the MacBooks and the Mini form factor will bring SOMETHING unique to appeal to the desktop fans.
Let’s hope we get something that really sets this thing apart, although as far as M1 it was certainly a massive leap from previous builds because the mini was never really marketed for “power.”
The current mini chassis was kept because Amazon AWS didn't want to buy different size racks. The new Mac mini will be half the height because two Mac minis will fit in the same rack. The plastic case has nothing to do with Bluetooth, whatsoever. Bluetooth sucks because the module is from Broadcom, and it's terrible. The new plastic top comes off so Amazon can attach, well, that's a secret.
Hey, your secret is safe with me 🤫
Appreciate you weighing in here.
Other than improving the port layout I'm fine with the design. The current M1 Mac Mini is small enough, and I'd be fine if they cubed it and made it larger.
Yeah, I think others may have wanted that cube because it may have meant that there would be some upgradeable components. But I too am fine with the current design.
Appreciate you hanging out.
Focusing on camera set up now. Maybe next will go with mac mini or macbook pro but only if i need to upgred. For now the ipad pro 12 inch is enough for me tho. Still looking forward to your videos
Hey, that camera gear should definitely be a good focus (no pun intended). If the iPad serves you then no need to change until you do.
Great to see you.
I'm looking forward to your review on the new Mac Studio that was recently announced. Its way overkill for me in terms of performance and price. I would be happy with a Mac Mini but I'd prefer a 27' iMac with M SoC which I hope Apple will release in the future. I'm still using an old 2011 27" iMac that was upgraded with a 500 GB 860 EVO.
Yeah that Mac studio is overkill for all of us. But why not, right!? 😀
If the studio had come out before the latest MBPs it would have killed those sales.
@@KevinRossRNYou are correct that the Mac Studio would have killed the Mac Mini sales had it been released first. The Mac Mini with M1 SoC is more than adequate for 98% of the population.
Everyone is thankful for improved performance per watt, more CPU and GPU cores but I suspect for the vast majority of users all these extra cores will serve more as a bragging right than actual utility in people's workflows.
When my 2011 iMac eventually kicks the bucket I'll upgrade to whichever M series SoC offers the lowest price to performance ratio.
Yeah, I think some might be underwhelmed by the fact that we’re just seeing M1 put into all of these devices now, and so what. Big deal 🤷♂️
However these chips are just phenomenal per watt. That’s the take home message here. They could practically be powered by a potato…not really of course, but I’m just constantly amazed at the performance when compared to the two gaming PCs we have. I mean, gaming isn’t the target, but just the point of all this potential in such a small footprint is really something I’m looking forward to for years to come.
The world definitely has room for (and demand for) both a base M1 (or M2) Mac Mini and a higher-grade M1Pro (and M1Max) Mac Mini "Pro". I just hope they don't get any more expensive than what's anticipated.
Yeah the expense would definitely lose quite a bit of their customer base, which is why I think the M1 sticks around, but then you have that price point of the iMac to contend with as a “consumer” level device.
But there’s just so many things that can be done with that mini.
tried medium format raws ( like 100mpx fuji gx raws) in capture one (m1 native) well as little canon r5, xt4, with both heavy cpu task like cloning and healing and brushing on layers and it handles a lot before crippling on its knees! and it swaps like 1.8 gb which is not trash performance, so heavy work with brushes a ton on healing! Maybee for next mac mini m2 I would like to see better graphic perhaps
Well, the additional cores may help on the M2, however it seems like it’s being designed for a efficiency versus power, so the Pro and Max should be able to handle your workflow. At least based off what I’m seeing in my own work that is. Guess we’ll be finding out soon 🤷♂️
@@KevinRossRN guess so my friend!
See you there 😉
I was a fan of the ultra thin apple devices… and i was wrong, I want apple to follow the most important Dieter Rams principle: Function over form, if apple found the way to make this device thinner is ok but if not, we could return to the dark era that begin with the 13 inch MBP
Yeah, I think at first we were all digging the smaller footprint…not all, but many. However, when function caused us to hit a ceiling much quicker, then it didn’t matter at that point.
There’s a lot of possibilities with these new chips, but with more demand comes the need to balance that power and heat.
Please Apple!!! Stop with the fascination for thin!!!
NOBODY cares about thin for a machine that is a desktop.
Especially since Apple sacrifices functionality for shaving off a few angstroms.
I pray they keep the headphone jack and have backwards compatible USB ports (A/B/newer) and also keep the HDMI that is also backwards compatible. And keep it DIY for upgrades. Keep the M1 Mac Mini form factor and just upgrade the guts.
Oh if we could get a little DIY action, that would be sweet.
I think the headphone jack and HDMI will stick around.
I don't think you know what a decade means.
:p
As for the new Mac Mini...I have no idea what size it will be. I haven't seen anything to convince me one way or another. It might even be the same size.
What I would like to see is COLORS. I would just love to see several color options, bright, IN YOUR FACE colors instead of the usual silver-ish color.
Not that I will be able to afford any of them, Apple doesn't have an Apple store here, only "official distributors" , not even their own e-shop. So not only we have to pay extra because we are not in the USA (fair enough), but there is an extra at least 30% price gauging from the sellers, total price and each upgrade, reaching even 50%. Yes, there is a good chance the official distributors (or whatever they are called) make higher profit per mac than Apple.
Which of course means far fewer units sold here (Greece) than they would be otherwise. So I am still with my 2012 Mac Mini.
Anyway, I am sure Apple will have something good released soon enough.
COLORS!
Ha! Let’s hope the coming years don’t feel like a decade like the past couple years have felt. 😉
Colors would be interesting. I didn’t really consider that, but it would certainly make these more of a center piece.
And what I think is also something that should be addressed is that here in the states we do have that easier access to these newer devices while in other countries the wait times are longer and often times paying more.
A friend and fellow UA-cam creator just got his M1 Max he ordered last year 🤷♂️
Makes me think the M1 will still sell for awhile since it’s more widely available.
@@KevinRossRN I like that you are quick. One of the reasons I subbed months ago. The M1 would be nice to see in a low tier Mini and/or Air with even lower price, when the Max/Pro and M2 spread out more.
Don’t you mean quick witted? 😆
Sorry, I’m full of the dad jokes. Glad to have you here, seriously. And yes, I could see the M1 hanging on a little longer and then when these M2 chips come in, holy smokes the possibilities here.
Apple will still have their hands full on trying to streamline their SKUs a bit, and as much as I love the Air, I’m curious to see if they end up dropping that name and just going back to MacBook.
Shrunk to 2/3th or even half the size of the current M1 Mini, the M1 Mini Pro/Max would be perfect. Providing Apple can keep the noise down. Otherwise, I'd prefer them to stick to the same "oversized" case as the M1 Mini. And when possible with some more in-your-face colours. I cannot really be bothered about price. It's just a case of what would be best suited to my usage: M1 Mini Pro or Max?
Right. And honestly it’s still going to be priced at a “bargain” for what it can actually do. And of course there won’t be that “portable” tax that we pay on the MBPs.
I’m pretty excited. Sounds like you are as well.
@@KevinRossRN Yes I am.
I can tell. 😁
Just purchased a used (excellent condition) M1 Mac Mini (16GB RAM 1TB SSD) for $1k….now I’m not sure if I should have waited. I probably should test to see if I have any Bluetooth issues.
Well, it’s still a beast of a computer. Are you in the U.S.?
@@KevinRossRN Yes Massachusetts. I bought it for 4k 10 bit editing.
I was able to burn through 10 bit on this thing. I still can cruise through with the A7IV footage I have.
That’s the exact model I have.
Same model i have, and works fine so don’t feel buyers remorse…… imagine what will come in a few years when its logistical time to upgrade :)
@@philipgilligan_art Yeah it’s definitely an incredible machine no doubt and I don’t know if it’s so much buyers remorse as it is just a timing thing. I think I really need to just test any potential Bluetooth issues on my model. Even though I knocked off $400 by buying it used/open box (which I still think is a great deal) I feel that maybe if the new Mac Mini comes in at $1199 like Kevin said maybe that would have been the better direction to go but oh well.
I am happy with my m1 mini for now,so i wont be upgrading straight away …… well not unless new machine mental good and well priced
Yeah, it’ll be interesting to see how many folks upgrade and even to see how many folks end up still buying the M1.
Awesome to hear you’re loving it though.
@@KevinRossRN not getting total full use out of it to be honest, it is that good a system
@@KevinRossRN both the mini and the 14” mbp handle my fuji xt4 footage and dji osmo pocket plus air2s drone footage with ease as for cubase its a breeze that is all I need
And hey, that’s what it comes down to. If it fits your workflow, then that’s what matters. 🤘
I say this quite often.
After buying a special order that I had to wait for weeks for, as it needed to be built in the factory in China, after it arrived dead on arrival, I’m scared of ever buying an Apple computer again
Yeah, these wait times are definitely impacting those that are having a harder time accessing replacements.
Unfortunate though that you had this experience.
@@KevinRossRN seems as though Apple don’t always test the products, this is unacceptable for a special order
It is for a BTO. I agree friend.
...short answer..NO. The Mini is already a "Mini-malist" design. I'd like to see Apple leverage the already paid for R&D and manufacturing costs of the current form-factor (which is a HUGE and CAVERNOUS space for future M-series SoCs) and offer faster, less expensive desktops. GO for market share !!!....to do that Apple Needs a low-cost, high performance desktop. I have no need to "look" at my M1 Mini....it is mounted to the back of the 43" 4K TV I use as a monitor..... save the "beauty treatment" (and price bumps) for the upcoming iMac, Macbook and Mac Pro models
And there you have it. I agree. I mean honestly we could have enough space to fit a SATA drive in there for internal archiving while the NVMe handles the workflow.
Yeah my 16gb m1 mini is a great machine! ..Anything else would just be overkill for me ...I mean this would have been a home run machine if they had a pcie slot but obviously apple purposely kept that out along with giving us a underwhelming USB C port that doesn't play well with USB c drives .. All purposely done I'm sure ...
Yeah, I think it’s really hard for them to find a price within the bracket.
@@KevinRossRN No doubt .Any higher then u buy an Imac
Exactly. 🫵