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I've been topping off using a wireless pad at my desk and otherwise use the machine learning mentioned charging overnight. Now im curious about my apple watch I've noticed my charger beeps once its full and will do that all night if i leave it!
That’s how I feel as a person that works from home and only charges when I’m awake. It’s inconsistent so how does it learn that? I’m sure someone will say “algorithm!” But again, algorithm for randomness?
@@soo5985 It simply doesn't. I think so because my iPhone 11 doesn't give me the message that it waits at 80% even though Significant Locations is turned on.
@@thespkrYT yeah. i think sometimes tech companies say "algorithm" and it's a blanket "I don't have to explain it because its too complicated" get out of jail free card. But there are some tech lovers out here that would love to understand how it works for the people that don't charge it overnight so the "algorithm" can use our morning alarm etc.
I have been charging my iPhone 11 ever since I got it anytime I want, however I want, whenever I want, and I’m still at peak battery performance so basically don’t even worry or think about it. Just don’t let it get hot like in sitting the sun in a hot car, etc.
It will be interesting to ask this question again in a few years when more advanced battery types become available, especially the impending arrival of solid-state battery packs.
@@sagunmdr iPhone will charge only at about 20W at maximum no matter how much power you can delivery from your charging adapter. And it charges at full speed only to about 50% capacity, then it will slow down, on iPhones last 5% take really long time, even 5W charger will be not fully utilized. Heat is normal during fast charging and 20W is nothing special. Most 150-200 bucks budget android phones comes with 30+W charging. But.. keep in in car charger during hot summer days, or during cold winter with heater on. It will produce more heat… And, of course if you try charge mostly empty battery and play Genshin Impact at this time is not good idea as it will heat up your phone a lot. But normal fast charging in room temperature.. Do not care.
@@jirikocman Thank you, I was wondering also. I don’t charge my phone at night I charge it before I go to bed, so when I wake up and it’s like maybe at 30% “I use sleeping apps through the entire night” and I fast charge it I’ve noticed my phone does feel warm. Sometimes kind of hot, not burn your fingers or anything hot but you can definitely tell it’s warmed up a good bit. So I thought I was doing damage to it, but now I guess that’s normal.
Yup, and I strongly believe that phone case causes premature battery wear as well, since it traps heat. Ever since I went case less with my iPhones, the battery has not degraded as quickly.
I’ve had my 12 pro max now for a whole year … battery health is at 100%. I charge at night with optimized charging set in settings and use it all day. Most times I don’t even make it to 50% before bed and lay it on my wireless charger and when I wake up I’m at 100% again. Zero issues with battery and Im a pretty heavy user with email, social media, Zoom/Skype for work, UA-cam and some games. Follow the advice…let the phone do the work and charge when you need it. Great video.
I’ve also had my 12 Pro Max for over a year, and I use it pretty similarly to you and I charge it in the same way you do, however my battery health is at 88% for who knows why.
@@sagunmdr With the optimized charging on my phone has never been hot coming off either the wireless charger or the lighting charger. I get up at 7am each day at 100% and no heat whatsoever.
@@sagunmdr For sure it will, depends on charger used. Some cheap ones are really unefficient and heats up a lot, but good quality ones, especially using magnets (not Apple certified mag safe ones) will hold phone at right position for better efficiency. But, that heat produced.. It is heat from battery itself or from loses around charger and phone coils? On MacOS you can use CoconutBattery, in paid version you have access to battery life details and you can see minimum and maximum temps of battery. Mine iPhone 12 Pro after 11 months never got less than 7°C and more than 39°C
I don’t know of many tech creators that find ways to integrate their personality with their editing and memes like you do, Rene. Its one thing to make educational Apple content but its another to make them entertaining as well 👏🏾
This is a question you should ask Apple engineers. With iOS 13 and later, Optimized Battery Charging is designed to reduce the wear on your battery and improve its lifespan by reducing the time your iPhone spends fully charged. When the feature is enabled, your iPhone will delay charging past 80% in certain situations. Your iPhone uses on-device machine learning to learn your daily charging routine so that Optimized Battery Charging activates only when your iPhone predicts it will be connected to a charger for an extended period of time. The algorithm aims to ensure that your iPhone is still fully charged when unplugged. The question then is if an Apple device will have issues if plugged in all the time why does Apple not have software to address, and solve this use case scenario?
@@TheMysteryDriver pretty sure he's talking about bypass charging and charging limiting (beyond just applying it to overnight adaptive charging) features, not overcharge protection
MagSafe on my iPhone is probably my favorite addition in a long time. A bedside charger from Belkin which charges my iPhone, AirPods and Apple Watch simultaneously without wires aside from the one it uses for power is easily the most convenient thing I’ve had for my daily devices - ever. I loved it so much I bought the same one for my wife.
I have a iPhone 11 pro max for 2 years in a half and i never use fast charging/wireless charging Always use slow chargers & charging it between 20%-80% sometimes up too 95% and yet still 100% battery heath for 2 years.
I have my charger connected to smart plugs that turn off at 100% and turn on at 20%. During the weekend, it only charges up to 80%. If it’s about two hours before work, charger won’t turn off until I get to work.
Using 13 pro for 6 months with about 250 charge cycles and 99% battery health. Been charging to 80% (a couple times went over) and never letting it fall under 30%. My 11 pro was at 95% at this point doing full charge cycles (10-100%) overnight charging.
The phone will let you know when its time for replacement, sometimes the charge cycles might be high but the battery still provides for peak performance and lasts just as long.
Rene, is it bad that I have my MagSafe battery pack on all the time? iOS prevents the battery pack from charging my 13 pro max past 90%. It is nice that I’m able to go 2 days without charging my phone.
I totally agree with your opinion, don't serve the battery, let it serve you because everyone cares too much about battery health and I would just do what suits me, I would never personally use optimised charging because it basically preserves your battery for longer but whats the point if your never gonna turn the feature off it's almost like you buy a phone at 80% battery health
Guilty of micromanaging but i do it because apple service centers are a plane ride away here and it's not $70-80 for a battery replacement as you say because we only have an official reseller, not Apple themselves so there's additional fees. I loosely charge from 30+% to 80+% most of the time and only going to 100% if there is a long day ahead. I'm just reaching 300 charge cycles in nearly 4 years.
Quick question… when I am in my fiancés suv and plug my phone up to the car to load up car play, by using the lighting cable in the car, that charges my phone as long as it’s connected ? So, having my phone connected to car play is hurting my battery since it charges my phone ?
I do not charge my phone at night because I use it in bed. I charge it when I am not using it or before going out. It varies so much. Sometimes when I forget I was changing and get busy with my work, the phone will keep charging at 100%. Even if I leave it and come back an hour later. The phone just does not learn. Yeah relying solely on the machine is unreliable. But micro management is not a solution. The phone will charge slower after crossing the 80% mark. Even if you forget for a little time and let it charge to 90% is okay. Keeping an eye on the 100% market is important. Keeping it away from direct heat like sunlight or radiator is a good idea.
You basically don't have a routine and charge haphazardly so the phone can't formulate a pattern hence it just continues charging to 100% anytime you plug it in. You are just like me lol.
I just wonder why phones can not collaborate with Alarm app. Than it can easily manage the battery charge accurately without needing to learn the ‘behavior’. It would also resolve the issue of those people with random schedules.
Apple's web site says the new 140W USB-C Power Adapter isn't compatible with the iPad Pro. Does that mean it will damage the iPad's battery or does it just mean the iPad won't be able to take full advantage of the fast charging?
I didn't get a expensive phone just to worry about battery I use it to the full extent and charge it when I think I need the battery for the next day without no worries.
Found out why my M1 MacBook Air that I leave plugged into power shows that charging is paused at 80% with iStat Menus. This needs to be an option that is on by default in all devices like iPhone, iPad, MacBook's. If battery charging is paused or on hold on your Mac With macOS Big Sur or later, your Mac learns from your charging habits to improve the lifespan of your battery. In macOS Big Sur or later, Optimized Battery Charging is designed to improve the lifespan of your battery and reduce the time your Mac spends fully charged. When the feature is enabled, your Mac will delay charging past 80% in certain situations. Your Mac learns you're charging routine and aims to ensure that your Mac is fully charged when unplugged. On Mac computers with the Apple silicon or the T2 security chip, Optimized Battery Charging is on by default when you set up your Mac or after updating to macOS Big Sur or later.
I turned this battery optimization feature off because my charging habit is random. And I don’t plug overnight. Sometimes I weak up around 3 or 4 Am and then plug it. It would be around 80 to 9 before I weak up. I use 5 watts charger.
People face this paranoia every time, talking about battery health, charging techniques etc. But heres my take: Life is too short to worry about your phone's battery. Just use your phone how you want and charge it whenever you want, its hassle free and doesnt even hurt the battery that much more.
A week after I received my iPhone 12 Pro it went to 99% and it lost 1-2% a month for the next 9 months hitting 89%…it’s been at 89% for the last 9 months. I think the maximum capacity system needs work.
I completely understand as far as iPhone charging goes, but I would still like to ask what is your advice as far as the MacBook Pro? In my case at the moment I use it at my desk all day long, so regarding the high charge state, would you recommend unplugging it every time it’s full? Or just leaving it plugged in all day long? Thank you in advance for your answer and thank you for a great videos as always.
ok Rene thanks for this, and thanks for all your great vids. Question: iOS, Android, whatever: are these battery management systems now capable of letting me leave the phone (or MBP, or iPad) on the charger, all day, if I'm not out and about? Does the battery management system handle all that in the background, the way I would expect a smart software system to handle it? I heard you loud and clear about the BMS learning my patterns; does it know it's been plugged in 2 days, 3 days, and handle accordingly? My 2021 MBP M1 Max keeps things "on hold" at ~88% when continuously on the power adapter. I want to think it knows what it's doing, and I can leave it there without "harming" things, the way I would have thought in the past. (In the past, I would deep discharge to 0% once a month -- am I ok having stopped that behavior on my part?)
I'm good at not having my iPhone out in the sun, however I noticed my Apple Watch got super-hot in the sun recently - that one is way harder to avoid, beyond not wearing it on sunny days...which is kinda defeating the point of it...made me wonder how we can improve this one, aside from wearing it screen-inside-wrist on sunny t-shirt days.
Usually more than 5 hours. The impact isn't much noticeable tbh. Very minor but over a long period of time (say 2 years), it does add an extra 2-5% drainage to the battery life.
@@akshajfitness So if you’re the type like me that is generally at a desk half of the day and would rather keep everything plugged in the majority of the time, it shouldn’t be an issue?
I haven't worried about the battery since 2011 and don't see any issues until 3 to 4 years of ownership of a phone. That is how long I keep a phone and so yes the battery is working for me and I never worry about it. As I am writing this Rene is mentioning everything I just wrote.
I dont get why people try to manage that charging stuff. Im light phone user, my 12 Pro holds two days comfortable, sometimes it lasts three days and record is four days at single charge with few % reserve. So I charge my phone when I want, no matter how much % battery have. My charging schedule is absolutely random, so that optimized charging triggers only onece during 11 months I own my iPhone. With Macbook I have charging pattern. During day, it is connected to monitor with PD, at evening I usually unplug it and using it outside desk, then at morning, again on desk connected to PD. So MacOS learned it and it will charge to 80% and to 100% at 5-6p.m. as I usually unplug it after that time.
I charge up to 💯 and then stop and recharge again at 40% on iPhone 13 Pro Max and mine is still 💯 my 12 pro max was at 90% by this time last year. I use to leave it plugged in at 💯 and that is what did it. I only care to keep resale value high bc I flip the phone every August because I come out with profit upgrading yearly!
This may be a dumb question, but I'm new to using an iPhone and was somewhat skeptical of this "Optimized Charging". I always made a habit of turning my phone off my phone when I'm charging so I don't get disturbed by notifications or other things from my phone since I charge it at night. Does the optimized charging work even when I turn off my phone when charging? I checked my battery charge graph under the battery section in settings and it just showed me a completely flat graph until the moment I disconnected my phone from the charger. This doesn't mean that this feature was active right? Or did I completely misunderstand something?
Using optimized battery charging and leaving it plugged in overnight, my iPhone X had a battery health of 92% at 2 years! Woohoo! But... doing the same with my iPhone 12 mini, the battery health deteriorated to 86% in little more than a year. Granted, it's a smaller battery. Now, I am doing the 20/80 thing, and battery health has remained unchanged at 86% for now.
I know for most people it wouldn't be worth the effort to micromanage for a longer lifespan, but since I always have access to a charger it's not that big of a deal for me to only have 10% of maximum usable capacity, therefore I had always let it cycle between 65 and 75 percent because of battery university expecting this range to be optimal. So are you sure, that it really won't make any difference ? Even if it's little I'd still consider to keep my routine just because I can do so without any stress
When I charge my phone is not predictable it changes day to day to day. There is a lot variation when I charge and for how long. I don’t care about micro managing charging if my schedule was predictable but it is not. If letting the manufacturer manage charging based on machine learning I ask what has the machine learned?
Exactly. I do not charge my phone at night because I use it in bed. I charge it when I am not using it or before going out. It varies so much. Sometimes when I forget I was changing and get busy with my work, the phone will keep charging at 100%. Even if I leave it and come back an hour later. The phone just does not learn. Yeah relying solely on the machine is unreliable. But micro management is not a solution. The phone will charge slower after crossing the 80% mark. Even if you forget for a little time and let it charge to 90% is okay. Keeping an eye on the 100% market is important. Keeping it away from direct heat like sunlight or radiator is a good idea.
I’m at well over a year with the 12 Pro Max and I try to be 80% max / slower charger guy (usually 15W vs 20W or more) and my battery health is at 93%. My son doesn’t pay attention at all and his 12’s health is < 80% over roughly the same period. So, to each his own, but I think avoiding 100% if it’s not an inconvenience probably extends the life of the battery.
I only experienced once that my iPhone did shut down because of heat. And this was indeed on a hot and sunny summer day, while being used for navigation in my car. ^^
I’m still on an 7plus I got when it came out. Battery still charges to 100% but I had been doing the 80% thing as I’d heard about that years ago. Think I need up update the iOS from 11 to access the battery optimise setting. I also have one of those 28600mAh portable chargers the size of the phone which is (Planning to upgrade to the 14 max pro this year finally)I think my battery has lasted quite a while due to my screen brightness being set ( by me) fairly low 25% strength. Would that be the case?
my battery health is pretty bad with my iPhone 12 (89%) xD still last me all day though, so I don't mind and since I plan on upgrading to another phone soon 🤷♂
I honestly still sort of baby my phone, I learned to not charge my phone in the car while the heat is blasting on it I’ll only use maps when I’m not charging and will occasionally use my watch for directions or if I have to use the phone I will turn off the screen when I don’t need it or place it over my ac do it cools it off But honestly, after 6 months, my battery is 98%, not to mention new phones I believe still under warranty can get a free battery replacement So there’s that
It's crazy; I have been charging my phone the same way for the past seven years; I charge from about 7pm to about 9pm, and that fills it up. I have never run out of juice in a single day nor have I even been below 20 percent. Ever since the 6 Plus, I've been using the same iPad Mini charge brick (and cable!) to charge my phones. It used to be fast charging on the 6, 6s, 7, 8, and so on, though now of course we can charge even faster. Just for the battery's sake though, and even though I have the 20W charge brick that came with the 11 pro max, I still use that iPad charger so my battery lasts longer. Here's what's confusing. My iPhone 7 Plus, which I had passed down to my mother and then daughter, is at 91 percent battery health. I bought that phone new, at launch, and it's been used daily since then. My iPhone X, which I also bought at launch and has been used daily, including now by my mother, is at 94 percent battery health. My Xs Max is also at 94 percent battery health. (I traded my 11 Pro Max to Apple so I don't have that phone's percentage). And now, my iPhone 12 Mini, which I charge the same way, is at 89 percent battery health. Is that not crazy? I know the battery is smaller on this phone, and in fairness I am going to upgrade when the new phones come out so it's not that big of a deal, but i have to wonder whether there is some issue with the mini 12 iPhone, or maybe just with my unit? Anyway, i still love the size of the Mini, and it's too bad we will never get a Mini Pro iPhone. Because man, would that have been stellar.
Simple answer : smaller batterie = more cycles. Check your log in the privacy setting and check for the log-aggregated file and check for your battery cycle.
Thanks Rene. Would love to find out if having my iphone connected to car play constantly is a problem for the battery. I live in my truck for work and its always connected to carplay so i can siri my way through my day safely when i drive. does it have a detrimental effect on the battery having it always charging? cheers
I’m not too worried about my phone, that’s always gonna need charging to max, then off out draining on a daily basis. But wish I could limit my MacBook charging. The large majority of the time it’s plugged in constantly connected to a dock. So I can’t just unplug it. So it’s sat there for days or weeks plugged in to the charger. I could so easily limit it to say 80%, then just choose to fill it entirely the once a week or less I actually unplug it and “go mobile”. My MacBook is basically a desktop that I only *sometimes* want to take with me for stuff.
If you turn on optimized chargin in settings the current macOS will at some point stop charging at 80% or lower. There is also a software which can limit charging level to a point you decide (like 60% or something similar). It is called AlDente.
And what if you just want to throw on the MagSafe battery pack on your phone and leave it there all day long because you simply don’t want to ever have to worry about battery life at all ever?
Hey my 13mini gets heat up when i watch downloaded UA-cam videos offline (data/wifi) off.. even its 360p its gets heat up but if i turn ON the data the phone cools down.. any idea on this bug???
What about managing the battery of my Mac! I use my Mac all day and because of the type of apps I run I can kill the battery from 8:30 to lunchtime. That is why I always tend to keep it plugged in. What would you recommend?
Move to M1. My base M1 MacBook Pro literally could last me 8+ hours of audio editing and streaming or truly anything. It lasts very long. You’ll question your battery and see like 60%. It’s insane.
@@NotGarrettG it’s insane! If I don’t use it heavily for example when visiting my parents for a week, sometimes I don’t even charge it at all and I leave their place with like 80% battery… Sometimes, I only charge it once or twice a week. When I do some light word, excel, pages, numbers kinda work and it does amazing and even some light gaming can fit in there
If you keep it plugged in all the time you WILL kill the battery early. You need a “charge limiter” and there are apps to do this. Al Dente is the best application I know of for MacBooks plugged in all the time. I used mine plugged into a monitor for a long time and the battery swelled enough to pop off the bottom case of the laptop and could have exploded if I did not see it in time. Trust me, no matter what Apple or Rene says, if you plug in your laptop most of the time you WILL kill your battery sooner unless you get an app to regulate the charge manually.
Apple is feeding MISINFORMATION. I have tried that discharging to 80% on my SE 2020 and I LOST 6% battery health in just a few months. I went back to keeping it on the charger about all the time and at 100% as much as possible and I have only lost 1% health in about 18 months. In my experience, keeping it on the charger as much as possible and at 100% as much as possible gets you the best long term battery health. Another personal example. I treated my original SE the same way. On the charger all the time and at 100% and I used that phone for 4 years and sold it with 99% health remaining. Apple wants to sell us batteries. The batteries are good for so many charging cycles so it makes the most sense to MINIMIZE how many cycles we put on those batteries. Do your own test before just repeating the PROPAGANDA Apple puts out.
Hmm, what about your Macbook battery? Normally my new Macbook is used as a desktop and is plugged in 100% of the time. The portability aspect of my Macbook is only rarely used. Are there some optimal settings in MacOS for this use case?
@@MrKevosmin Most of the time, yeah. When the laptop requires more power than the charger can provide, it will start pulling power out from the battery in addition to the power it's getting from the charger. No idea if iPhone does this (probably not seeing as it gets warm while you're using it, which should mean power is going into and out of the battery at the same time)
i try do some of the battery stuff without micromanaging too much, but ok 80% is the high end, so ideally what's the low end of the optimal zone? try not to go below 60%, 40%, 30%?
High heat and putting cycles on your battery causes wear (normal usage without charger connected). Don't worry about it if it stay on 100% because it will use the energy from the charger instead from the battery. So don't worry
You forgot to mention that Apple has miss information code in their battery percentage monitor feature that has been coded to mislead the consumer into thinking that their device is holding its charge at 100% for a longer period which ultimately causes the consumer to always over charge their devices by 5%. 2ndly, all smart features a developer tries to code are always bump down features which prevents consumers from being creative, and in critical systems Smart features can be very dangerous. 3rdly, nice video, very informative.
I plug my phone in or put it on a wireless charging stand every chance I get and try to keep it at 100% as much as possible. I keep it plugged in or charging wirelessly whenever I'm not using it. Never even knew or cared about all this stuff. Until I I started using an iPhone and it gave me all these wonky, funky messages about charging to only 85% or whatever. Got tired of it and switched back to my Samsung phone. Problem solved. Don't need to nerd out over my battery power for a phone I won't even have in two years, maybe even less.
One thing I don't understand is why there is so much conflicting reports when it comes to this topic. Even here in this comment section people are saying and reporting the exact opposite experience of one another with their battery health lol ... I'm so confused
Battery health has a lot to do with your overall behavior. Like if you use a lot of hot, heavy apps all the time, it'll force more load on everything than if you're just checking mail every once in a while
@@ReneRitchie I see ... so someone who is reporting one thing about their battery experience may be using their phone way more heavily than the other causing their reports to be inconsistent with each other... ty for the reply!
Using a 12 mini optimised battery charging switched on but every day for work have to plug in to use car play to navigate all day for work, so 6 months later a brand new iPhone has 87% battery health, optimised only seems to work at night, not for car play No mention of that in these videos ??? Shouldn’t there be a option just to charge to 80% to manage your battery better ? Keep the value of your phone higher ? Give us the option ? Thoughts people
I’ve been using a smart battery case on my iPhone 7 since 2017 and it keeps my iPhone at 100% for most of the time and guess what… my battery has been fine.
That's what I'm always saying. Why bother about saving your battery life by doing some illogical actions, if these actions are going to limit you even more than the battery would after long time of "abuse"? Feeding battery always up to 80% is an extremely stupid way to go - even extremely bad battery charging profile would take years to limit the battery so badly! If I some day run into 80% of battery life, I'd just replace it, since the cost isn't too high. Also, I prefer standard (not fast) induction charging - it doesn't hurt me that phone recharges much slower while I'm sleeping or working, while I save the lightning socket from being worn too quickly and maybe get the battery at least slightly better treated.
Just stop worrying about the battery health and use our phones as we like to and avoid putting the phone in extreme conditions aka heat. Thanks Rene. Wise words.
Charging past 80% even even if not prolonged does add strain on the battery. Lithium ion batteries in iPhones are no different from any other. The technology has not changed. Top maximise the longevity of thr battery it's best to avoid charging to 100% at all. My iPhone 12 is over a year old but still at 100% health because it's never charged beyond 80%. I don't think there's many people who still have 100% health after a year and a half who rely on Apple's battery optimizer. Apple's battery optimizer reduces wear but it's not thr best way to reduce wear as it does sacrifice some battery longevity for convenience of a full day battery. If you don't need a full day battery and will have access to chargers to top thr battery up, that's better than having Apple charge to 100% every morning. If you can top of tut battery a few times throughout the day that's better for the longterm health if the battery than leaving tut house with 100% battery every day
The thing is my iphone 12 will go to 100 in minutes with magsafe accessory and then be so over the night. I have my phone magnetically on the wall over the night and it never learns to not charge mediately to 100
Helpful as always Renee! All things being equal, which is least damaging: wireless charging, 5W wired charging, 7.5 wireless charging or 18W fast charging?
It’s just strange that when you add the Apple case with the battery in it. It WILL keep your battery at 100% until the case battery is empty. And with this an Apple case…. 🤔🤯🤬
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But where is the "Optimized Battery Charging" for iPad OS...?!?
I've been topping off using a wireless pad at my desk and otherwise use the machine learning mentioned charging overnight. Now im curious about my apple watch I've noticed my charger beeps once its full and will do that all night if i leave it!
The battery optimization is useless for people with inconsistent sleep and activity schedules.
Thats what I thought because im in the army
That’s how I feel as a person that works from home and only charges when I’m awake. It’s inconsistent so how does it learn that? I’m sure someone will say “algorithm!” But again, algorithm for randomness?
@@soo5985 It simply doesn't. I think so because my iPhone 11 doesn't give me the message that it waits at 80% even though Significant Locations is turned on.
@@thespkrYT yeah. i think sometimes tech companies say "algorithm" and it's a blanket "I don't have to explain it because its too complicated" get out of jail free card. But there are some tech lovers out here that would love to understand how it works for the people that don't charge it overnight so the "algorithm" can use our morning alarm etc.
Agreed
I have been charging my iPhone 11 ever since I got it anytime I want, however I want, whenever I want, and I’m still at peak battery performance so basically don’t even worry or think about it. Just don’t let it get hot like in sitting the sun in a hot car, etc.
Yeeeh mine as well
It will be interesting to ask this question again in a few years when more advanced battery types become available, especially the impending arrival of solid-state battery packs.
They're already here for the past 3 years but they arent dumb proof. hence you wont see on samsung/iphone for atleast 5 more years
The biggest cause of premature battery death is heat. Like leaving your phone in a hot car or on a dashboard in the sun.
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Sometimes charging via anker 65w charger heats up the phone, will that degrade the battery too?
@@sagunmdr iPhone will charge only at about 20W at maximum no matter how much power you can delivery from your charging adapter. And it charges at full speed only to about 50% capacity, then it will slow down, on iPhones last 5% take really long time, even 5W charger will be not fully utilized.
Heat is normal during fast charging and 20W is nothing special. Most 150-200 bucks budget android phones comes with 30+W charging. But.. keep in in car charger during hot summer days, or during cold winter with heater on. It will produce more heat… And, of course if you try charge mostly empty battery and play Genshin Impact at this time is not good idea as it will heat up your phone a lot. But normal fast charging in room temperature.. Do not care.
@@jirikocman Thank you, I was wondering also. I don’t charge my phone at night I charge it before I go to bed, so when I wake up and it’s like maybe at 30% “I use sleeping apps through the entire night” and I fast charge it I’ve noticed my phone does feel warm. Sometimes kind of hot, not burn your fingers or anything hot but you can definitely tell it’s warmed up a good bit. So I thought I was doing damage to it, but now I guess that’s normal.
Yup, and I strongly believe that phone case causes premature battery wear as well, since it traps heat. Ever since I went case less with my iPhones, the battery has not degraded as quickly.
I’ve had my 12 pro max now for a whole year … battery health is at 100%. I charge at night with optimized charging set in settings and use it all day. Most times I don’t even make it to 50% before bed and lay it on my wireless charger and when I wake up I’m at 100% again. Zero issues with battery and Im a pretty heavy user with email, social media, Zoom/Skype for work, UA-cam and some games. Follow the advice…let the phone do the work and charge when you need it. Great video.
I’ve also had my 12 Pro Max for over a year, and I use it pretty similarly to you and I charge it in the same way you do, however my battery health is at 88% for who knows why.
Doesn't the wireless charge heat up the phone? Mine does sometimes and it freaks me out, if its normal or not. 13 pro max.
@@sagunmdr With the optimized charging on my phone has never been hot coming off either the wireless charger or the lighting charger. I get up at 7am each day at 100% and no heat whatsoever.
@@sagunmdr For sure it will, depends on charger used. Some cheap ones are really unefficient and heats up a lot, but good quality ones, especially using magnets (not Apple certified mag safe ones) will hold phone at right position for better efficiency. But, that heat produced.. It is heat from battery itself or from loses around charger and phone coils? On MacOS you can use CoconutBattery, in paid version you have access to battery life details and you can see minimum and maximum temps of battery. Mine iPhone 12 Pro after 11 months never got less than 7°C and more than 39°C
Battery health monitor be cappin tho. You will drop from 100% to 90% very rapidly and suddenly.
I don’t know of many tech creators that find ways to integrate their personality with their editing and memes like you do, Rene. Its one thing to make educational Apple content but its another to make them entertaining as well 👏🏾
Best production values and scripting of any tech channel imo and tied with Gamers Nexus for information quality
Thanks so much!
Incredibly high praise, thank you!
This is a question you should ask Apple engineers.
With iOS 13 and later, Optimized Battery Charging is designed to reduce the wear on your battery and improve its lifespan by reducing the time your iPhone spends fully charged. When the feature is enabled, your iPhone will delay charging past 80% in certain situations. Your iPhone uses on-device machine learning to learn your daily charging routine so that Optimized Battery Charging activates only when your iPhone predicts it will be connected to a charger for an extended period of time. The algorithm aims to ensure that your iPhone is still fully charged when unplugged.
The question then is if an Apple device will have issues if plugged in all the time why does Apple not have software to address, and solve this use case scenario?
I've seen for years that Apple devices have overcharge protection. So it shouldn't matter if you leave it plugged in at a desk
@@TheMysteryDriver pretty sure he's talking about bypass charging and charging limiting (beyond just applying it to overnight adaptive charging) features, not overcharge protection
@@block3732 I'm pretty sure he isn't. He would have said so. Overcharge protection is a software feature, which is the solution asked for above.
Fascinating. As an Apple Tech, I’ve always wondered what the 80% really meant and how machine learning worked to optimize battery life.
For the Google Pixel 8 pro at least, it is called "Adaptive Charging". It learns our daily routine and makes the necessary adjustments.
MagSafe on my iPhone is probably my favorite addition in a long time. A bedside charger from Belkin which charges my iPhone, AirPods and Apple Watch simultaneously without wires aside from the one it uses for power is easily the most convenient thing I’ve had for my daily devices - ever. I loved it so much I bought the same one for my wife.
I have a iPhone 11 pro max for 2 years in a half and i never use fast charging/wireless charging
Always use slow chargers & charging it between 20%-80% sometimes up too 95% and yet still 100% battery heath for 2 years.
Great video as usual, never been this early. Not sure what to do with that knowledge.
I have my charger connected to smart plugs that turn off at 100% and turn on at 20%. During the weekend, it only charges up to 80%. If it’s about two hours before work, charger won’t turn off until I get to work.
Thanks for the info Rene’…..I’m still using a Xr that I got when they launched and battery health is still 93%
Using 13 pro for 6 months with about 250 charge cycles and 99% battery health. Been charging to 80% (a couple times went over) and never letting it fall under 30%. My 11 pro was at 95% at this point doing full charge cycles (10-100%) overnight charging.
So basically its better to overnight charge it?
My max capacity on my 12pro is at 83%. What’s the number I need to hit before I bring it to the apple store for a repair/replacement?
Below 80% before they’ll replace it for you under warranty or AppleCare.
The phone will let you know when its time for replacement, sometimes the charge cycles might be high but the battery still provides for peak performance and lasts just as long.
Thanks. I couldn’t remember if I was close at 83%, or if apple waited ‘til it was closer to 60.
Rene, is it bad that I have my MagSafe battery pack on all the time? iOS prevents the battery pack from charging my 13 pro max past 90%. It is nice that I’m able to go 2 days without charging my phone.
I totally agree with your opinion, don't serve the battery, let it serve you because everyone cares too much about battery health and I would just do what suits me, I would never personally use optimised charging because it basically preserves your battery for longer but whats the point if your never gonna turn the feature off it's almost like you buy a phone at 80% battery health
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Guilty of micromanaging but i do it because apple service centers are a plane ride away here and it's not $70-80 for a battery replacement as you say because we only have an official reseller, not Apple themselves so there's additional fees. I loosely charge from 30+% to 80+% most of the time and only going to 100% if there is a long day ahead. I'm just reaching 300 charge cycles in nearly 4 years.
Quick question… when I am in my fiancés suv and plug my phone up to the car to load up car play, by using the lighting cable in the car, that charges my phone as long as it’s connected ? So, having my phone connected to car play is hurting my battery since it charges my phone ?
I do not charge my phone at night because I use it in bed. I charge it when I am not using it or before going out. It varies so much. Sometimes when I forget I was changing and get busy with my work, the phone will keep charging at 100%. Even if I leave it and come back an hour later. The phone just does not learn. Yeah relying solely on the machine is unreliable. But micro management is not a solution. The phone will charge slower after crossing the 80% mark. Even if you forget for a little time and let it charge to 90% is okay. Keeping an eye on the 100% market is important. Keeping it away from direct heat like sunlight or radiator is a good idea.
You basically don't have a routine and charge haphazardly so the phone can't formulate a pattern hence it just continues charging to 100% anytime you plug it in. You are just like me lol.
I just wonder why phones can not collaborate with Alarm app. Than it can easily manage the battery charge accurately without needing to learn the ‘behavior’. It would also resolve the issue of those people with random schedules.
Probably best Apple videos. Keep good work
Good on Rene Richie you are solid ✊🏾
Apple's web site says the new 140W USB-C Power Adapter isn't compatible with the iPad Pro. Does that mean it will damage the iPad's battery or does it just mean the iPad won't be able to take full advantage of the fast charging?
I didn't get a expensive phone just to worry about battery I use it to the full extent and charge it when I think I need the battery for the next day without no worries.
Found out why my M1 MacBook Air that I leave plugged into power shows that charging is paused at 80% with iStat Menus. This needs to be an option that is on by default in all devices like iPhone, iPad, MacBook's.
If battery charging is paused or on hold on your Mac
With macOS Big Sur or later, your Mac learns from your charging habits to improve the lifespan of your battery.
In macOS Big Sur or later, Optimized Battery Charging is designed to improve the lifespan of your battery and reduce the time your Mac spends fully charged. When the feature is enabled, your Mac will delay charging past 80% in certain situations. Your Mac learns you're charging routine and aims to ensure that your Mac is fully charged when unplugged.
On Mac computers with the Apple silicon or the T2 security chip, Optimized Battery Charging is on by default when you set up your Mac or after updating to macOS Big Sur or later.
I turned this battery optimization feature off because my charging habit is random. And I don’t plug overnight. Sometimes I weak up around 3 or 4 Am and then plug it. It would be around 80 to 9 before I weak up. I use 5 watts charger.
People face this paranoia every time, talking about battery health, charging techniques etc. But heres my take: Life is too short to worry about your phone's battery. Just use your phone how you want and charge it whenever you want, its hassle free and doesnt even hurt the battery that much more.
My iPad battery performance is so crap rn…. Like after iPad os 15… so many problems 😞😞
A week after I received my iPhone 12 Pro it went to 99% and it lost 1-2% a month for the next 9 months hitting 89%…it’s been at 89% for the last 9 months. I think the maximum capacity system needs work.
Lol mine dropped to 96 in less than a month, but the new iPhone battery has been great.
I completely understand as far as iPhone charging goes, but I would still like to ask what is your advice as far as the MacBook Pro? In my case at the moment I use it at my desk all day long, so regarding the high charge state, would you recommend unplugging it every time it’s full? Or just leaving it plugged in all day long? Thank you in advance for your answer and thank you for a great videos as always.
I have the battery optimization activated and I don’t ever think about it. If it comes to it, I’ll simply get a new battery or a new iPhone.
I charge my iphone 40-50% upto 100%, and always use low power mode.
ok Rene thanks for this, and thanks for all your great vids. Question: iOS, Android, whatever: are these battery management systems now capable of letting me leave the phone (or MBP, or iPad) on the charger, all day, if I'm not out and about? Does the battery management system handle all that in the background, the way I would expect a smart software system to handle it? I heard you loud and clear about the BMS learning my patterns; does it know it's been plugged in 2 days, 3 days, and handle accordingly? My 2021 MBP M1 Max keeps things "on hold" at ~88% when continuously on the power adapter. I want to think it knows what it's doing, and I can leave it there without "harming" things, the way I would have thought in the past. (In the past, I would deep discharge to 0% once a month -- am I ok having stopped that behavior on my part?)
I'm good at not having my iPhone out in the sun, however I noticed my Apple Watch got super-hot in the sun recently - that one is way harder to avoid, beyond not wearing it on sunny days...which is kinda defeating the point of it...made me wonder how we can improve this one, aside from wearing it screen-inside-wrist on sunny t-shirt days.
And being in a high charge state for an extended period of time, how long constitutes an extended period of time?
Usually more than 5 hours. The impact isn't much noticeable tbh. Very minor but over a long period of time (say 2 years), it does add an extra 2-5% drainage to the battery life.
@@akshajfitness So if you’re the type like me that is generally at a desk half of the day and would rather keep everything plugged in the majority of the time, it shouldn’t be an issue?
Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed you answering practical questions on battery. Blessings on your day.
I haven't worried about the battery since 2011 and don't see any issues until 3 to 4 years of ownership of a phone. That is how long I keep a phone and so yes the battery is working for me and I never worry about it. As I am writing this Rene is mentioning everything I just wrote.
I dont get why people try to manage that charging stuff. Im light phone user, my 12 Pro holds two days comfortable, sometimes it lasts three days and record is four days at single charge with few % reserve.
So I charge my phone when I want, no matter how much % battery have. My charging schedule is absolutely random, so that optimized charging triggers only onece during 11 months I own my iPhone. With Macbook I have charging pattern. During day, it is connected to monitor with PD, at evening I usually unplug it and using it outside desk, then at morning, again on desk connected to PD. So MacOS learned it and it will charge to 80% and to 100% at 5-6p.m. as I usually unplug it after that time.
I charge up to 💯 and then stop and recharge again at 40% on iPhone 13 Pro Max and mine is still 💯 my 12 pro max was at 90% by this time last year. I use to leave it plugged in at 💯 and that is what did it. I only care to keep resale value high bc I flip the phone every August because I come out with profit upgrading yearly!
Do you do the iphone upgrade program?
It basically has so many “writes” in a theoritical sense. It’s why it can feel like it lasts longer if you don’t charge that extra percent
This may be a dumb question, but I'm new to using an iPhone and was somewhat skeptical of this "Optimized Charging". I always made a habit of turning my phone off my phone when I'm charging so I don't get disturbed by notifications or other things from my phone since I charge it at night. Does the optimized charging work even when I turn off my phone when charging? I checked my battery charge graph under the battery section in settings and it just showed me a completely flat graph until the moment I disconnected my phone from the charger. This doesn't mean that this feature was active right? Or did I completely misunderstand something?
Using optimized battery charging and leaving it plugged in overnight, my iPhone X had a battery health of 92% at 2 years! Woohoo! But... doing the same with my iPhone 12 mini, the battery health deteriorated to 86% in little more than a year. Granted, it's a smaller battery. Now, I am doing the 20/80 thing, and battery health has remained unchanged at 86% for now.
I know for most people it wouldn't be worth the effort to micromanage for a longer lifespan, but since I always have access to a charger it's not that big of a deal for me to only have 10% of maximum usable capacity, therefore I had always let it cycle between 65 and 75 percent because of battery university expecting this range to be optimal. So are you sure, that it really won't make any difference ? Even if it's little I'd still consider to keep my routine just because I can do so without any stress
When I charge my phone is not predictable it changes day to day to day. There is a lot variation when I charge and for how long. I don’t care about micro managing charging if my schedule was predictable but it is not. If letting the manufacturer manage charging based on machine learning I ask what has the machine learned?
Exactly. I do not charge my phone at night because I use it in bed. I charge it when I am not using it or before going out. It varies so much. Sometimes when I forget I was changing and get busy with my work, the phone will keep charging at 100%. Even if I leave it and come back an hour later. The phone just does not learn. Yeah relying solely on the machine is unreliable. But micro management is not a solution. The phone will charge slower after crossing the 80% mark. Even if you forget for a little time and let it charge to 90% is okay. Keeping an eye on the 100% market is important. Keeping it away from direct heat like sunlight or radiator is a good idea.
Does the same apply to the iPad? No optimized battery charging on that…
Please, don't waste mine 9:46. Ciao
I’m at well over a year with the 12 Pro Max and I try to be 80% max / slower charger guy (usually 15W vs 20W or more) and my battery health is at 93%. My son doesn’t pay attention at all and his 12’s health is < 80% over roughly the same period. So, to each his own, but I think avoiding 100% if it’s not an inconvenience probably extends the life of the battery.
Your son is not boomer like you
Your videos are always such nice quality 🔥
I only experienced once that my iPhone did shut down because of heat. And this was indeed on a hot and sunny summer day, while being used for navigation in my car. ^^
I’m still on an 7plus I got when it came out. Battery still charges to 100% but I had been doing the 80% thing as I’d heard about that years ago. Think I need up update the iOS from 11 to access the battery optimise setting. I also have one of those 28600mAh portable chargers the size of the phone which is (Planning to upgrade to the 14 max pro this year finally)I think my battery has lasted quite a while due to my screen brightness being set ( by me) fairly low 25% strength. Would that be the case?
Optimized battery Charging was turned on by default on my iPhone.
My iPad doesn’t seem to have that option.
my battery health is pretty bad with my iPhone 12 (89%) xD still last me all day though, so I don't mind and since I plan on upgrading to another phone soon 🤷♂
my iphone 12 is at 87% 😂
I think it’s more that after 80% it starts to slow down and run bad. This is what they got sued over and why they added the battery health function.
I honestly still sort of baby my phone, I learned to not charge my phone in the car while the heat is blasting on it
I’ll only use maps when I’m not charging and will occasionally use my watch for directions or if I have to use the phone I will turn off the screen when I don’t need it or place it over my ac do it cools it off
But honestly, after 6 months, my battery is 98%, not to mention new phones I believe still under warranty can get a free battery replacement
So there’s that
Great to the point video! Well done 👍🏻
I needed this✨
It's crazy; I have been charging my phone the same way for the past seven years; I charge from about 7pm to about 9pm, and that fills it up. I have never run out of juice in a single day nor have I even been below 20 percent. Ever since the 6 Plus, I've been using the same iPad Mini charge brick (and cable!) to charge my phones. It used to be fast charging on the 6, 6s, 7, 8, and so on, though now of course we can charge even faster. Just for the battery's sake though, and even though I have the 20W charge brick that came with the 11 pro max, I still use that iPad charger so my battery lasts longer. Here's what's confusing. My iPhone 7 Plus, which I had passed down to my mother and then daughter, is at 91 percent battery health. I bought that phone new, at launch, and it's been used daily since then. My iPhone X, which I also bought at launch and has been used daily, including now by my mother, is at 94 percent battery health. My Xs Max is also at 94 percent battery health. (I traded my 11 Pro Max to Apple so I don't have that phone's percentage). And now, my iPhone 12 Mini, which I charge the same way, is at 89 percent battery health. Is that not crazy? I know the battery is smaller on this phone, and in fairness I am going to upgrade when the new phones come out so it's not that big of a deal, but i have to wonder whether there is some issue with the mini 12 iPhone, or maybe just with my unit? Anyway, i still love the size of the Mini, and it's too bad we will never get a Mini Pro iPhone. Because man, would that have been stellar.
Simple answer : smaller batterie = more cycles. Check your log in the privacy setting and check for the log-aggregated file and check for your battery cycle.
@@sylvainalain6637 12 mini owner here. There are also heat issues which is a problem especially if you charge it using the MagSafe puck.
@@gaaraati I know that too, one of my friends use only the 5w charger because of the heat issue.
I drive a lot and use the phone as GPS, keep it plugged in while in use as GPS. Wonder if that's bad
Thanks Rene. Would love to find out if having my iphone connected to car play constantly is a problem for the battery. I live in my truck for work and its always connected to carplay so i can siri my way through my day safely when i drive. does it have a detrimental effect on the battery having it always charging? cheers
Hi, Rahul from Mumbai, India, very good one👍👍
Honestly.. the iPhone 13 promax is like double the phone in terms of battery compared to my previous oneplus7 phone.
I’m literally still blown away.
Thank you Rene for this info
Great summary. You missed out on an Idiocracy scene at electrolytes BTW. 🙂
I’m not too worried about my phone, that’s always gonna need charging to max, then off out draining on a daily basis. But wish I could limit my MacBook charging. The large majority of the time it’s plugged in constantly connected to a dock. So I can’t just unplug it. So it’s sat there for days or weeks plugged in to the charger. I could so easily limit it to say 80%, then just choose to fill it entirely the once a week or less I actually unplug it and “go mobile”. My MacBook is basically a desktop that I only *sometimes* want to take with me for stuff.
If you turn on optimized chargin in settings the current macOS will at some point stop charging at 80% or lower. There is also a software which can limit charging level to a point you decide (like 60% or something similar). It is called AlDente.
The BMS takes care of everything.
Battery Management System.
And what if you just want to throw on the MagSafe battery pack on your phone and leave it there all day long because you simply don’t want to ever have to worry about battery life at all ever?
Hey my 13mini gets heat up when i watch downloaded UA-cam videos offline (data/wifi) off.. even its 360p its gets heat up but if i turn ON the data the phone cools down.. any idea on this bug???
On the iphone 15 series apple’s introduced charging to 80%. Wanna change your mind?
What about managing the battery of my Mac! I use my Mac all day and because of the type of apps I run I can kill the battery from 8:30 to lunchtime. That is why I always tend to keep it plugged in. What would you recommend?
Move to M1. My base M1 MacBook Pro literally could last me 8+ hours of audio editing and streaming or truly anything. It lasts very long. You’ll question your battery and see like 60%. It’s insane.
@@NotGarrettG it’s insane!
If I don’t use it heavily for example when visiting my parents for a week, sometimes I don’t even charge it at all and I leave their place with like 80% battery…
Sometimes, I only charge it once or twice a week. When I do some light word, excel, pages, numbers kinda work and it does amazing and even some light gaming can fit in there
If you keep it plugged in all the time you WILL kill the battery early. You need a “charge limiter” and there are apps to do this. Al Dente is the best application I know of for MacBooks plugged in all the time.
I used mine plugged into a monitor for a long time and the battery swelled enough to pop off the bottom case of the laptop and could have exploded if I did not see it in time.
Trust me, no matter what Apple or Rene says, if you plug in your laptop most of the time you WILL kill your battery sooner unless you get an app to regulate the charge manually.
Apple is feeding MISINFORMATION. I have tried that discharging to 80% on my SE 2020 and I LOST 6% battery health in just a few months. I went back to keeping it on the charger about all the time and at 100% as much as possible and I have only lost 1% health in about 18 months. In my experience, keeping it on the charger as much as possible and at 100% as much as possible gets you the best long term battery health. Another personal example. I treated my original SE the same way. On the charger all the time and at 100% and I used that phone for 4 years and sold it with 99% health remaining. Apple wants to sell us batteries. The batteries are good for so many charging cycles so it makes the most sense to MINIMIZE how many cycles we put on those batteries. Do your own test before just repeating the PROPAGANDA Apple puts out.
Hmm, what about your Macbook battery? Normally my new Macbook is used as a desktop and is plugged in 100% of the time. The portability aspect of my Macbook is only rarely used. Are there some optimal settings in MacOS for this use case?
it doesnt use the battery when plugged in…
The BMS.
@@efwewfwef1549 so it runs off of AC doesn’t it? Like a desktop? I wish iPhone would do that
I just run the battery down to 20% once a month.
@@MrKevosmin Most of the time, yeah. When the laptop requires more power than the charger can provide, it will start pulling power out from the battery in addition to the power it's getting from the charger. No idea if iPhone does this (probably not seeing as it gets warm while you're using it, which should mean power is going into and out of the battery at the same time)
i try do some of the battery stuff without micromanaging too much, but ok 80% is the high end, so ideally what's the low end of the optimal zone? try not to go below 60%, 40%, 30%?
The point at which you need it topped up to get you through the next day.
Don’t think about.
Why isn't there an option to only charge up to 80/90% on the car. In a long trip you are always at 100%
So what should you do when using wired CarPlay. I do hate having my phone sitting there maxed at 100%
That doesn't hurt anything. Mostly you are on battery right after you get out of the car anyways.
High heat and putting cycles on your battery causes wear (normal usage without charger connected). Don't worry about it if it stay on 100% because it will use the energy from the charger instead from the battery. So don't worry
You forgot to mention that Apple has miss information code in their battery percentage monitor feature that has been coded to mislead the consumer into thinking that their device is holding its charge at 100% for a longer period which ultimately causes the consumer to always over charge their devices by 5%.
2ndly, all smart features a developer tries to code are always bump down features which prevents consumers from being creative, and in critical systems Smart features can be very dangerous.
3rdly, nice video, very informative.
I plug my phone in or put it on a wireless charging stand every chance I get and try to keep it at 100% as much as possible. I keep it plugged in or charging wirelessly whenever I'm not using it. Never even knew or cared about all this stuff. Until I I started using an iPhone and it gave me all these wonky, funky messages about charging to only 85% or whatever. Got tired of it and switched back to my Samsung phone. Problem solved. Don't need to nerd out over my battery power for a phone I won't even have in two years, maybe even less.
Not sure are there anyone that have experiment with fast charge vs slow charge to test the difference on how the battery lifespan looks like
One thing I don't understand is why there is so much conflicting reports when it comes to this topic. Even here in this comment section people are saying and reporting the exact opposite experience of one another with their battery health lol ... I'm so confused
Battery health has a lot to do with your overall behavior. Like if you use a lot of hot, heavy apps all the time, it'll force more load on everything than if you're just checking mail every once in a while
@@ReneRitchie I see ... so someone who is reporting one thing about their battery experience may be using their phone way more heavily than the other causing their reports to be inconsistent with each other... ty for the reply!
dose your apple watch do that also.
Using a 12 mini optimised battery charging switched on but every day for work have to plug in to use car play to navigate all day for work, so 6 months later a brand new iPhone has 87% battery health, optimised only seems to work at night, not for car play
No mention of that in these videos ???
Shouldn’t there be a option just to charge to 80% to manage your battery better ? Keep the value of your phone higher ?
Give us the option ?
Thoughts people
I’ve been using a smart battery case on my iPhone 7 since 2017 and it keeps my iPhone at 100% for most of the time and guess what… my battery has been fine.
That's what I'm always saying. Why bother about saving your battery life by doing some illogical actions, if these actions are going to limit you even more than the battery would after long time of "abuse"? Feeding battery always up to 80% is an extremely stupid way to go - even extremely bad battery charging profile would take years to limit the battery so badly!
If I some day run into 80% of battery life, I'd just replace it, since the cost isn't too high.
Also, I prefer standard (not fast) induction charging - it doesn't hurt me that phone recharges much slower while I'm sleeping or working, while I save the lightning socket from being worn too quickly and maybe get the battery at least slightly better treated.
😲 I’ve been roasting my iPhone under the hot African sun! 2 years on, I’m on 88% battery capacity 😞
What about iphone silicon cases do they reduce battery health ?
Don’t ask what your battery can do for you, ask what can you do for your battery
Basically. Don’t worry too much about it.
Just stop worrying about the battery health and use our phones as we like to and avoid putting the phone in extreme conditions aka heat. Thanks Rene. Wise words.
How can I when I live in a place where the weather gets to around 100 every summer??
So it is the best stopping at 80 %
Charging past 80% even even if not prolonged does add strain on the battery. Lithium ion batteries in iPhones are no different from any other. The technology has not changed. Top maximise the longevity of thr battery it's best to avoid charging to 100% at all. My iPhone 12 is over a year old but still at 100% health because it's never charged beyond 80%. I don't think there's many people who still have 100% health after a year and a half who rely on Apple's battery optimizer. Apple's battery optimizer reduces wear but it's not thr best way to reduce wear as it does sacrifice some battery longevity for convenience of a full day battery. If you don't need a full day battery and will have access to chargers to top thr battery up, that's better than having Apple charge to 100% every morning. If you can top of tut battery a few times throughout the day that's better for the longterm health if the battery than leaving tut house with 100% battery every day
You don’t tell me what to do! I’ll charge overnight when I want! Battery Health is at 84% and I’m on a second battery!
🤣🤣🤣
The thing is my iphone 12 will go to 100 in minutes with magsafe accessory and then be so over the night. I have my phone magnetically on the wall over the night and it never learns to not charge mediately to 100
Immediately meh
I charge 80-100% but then always like to use it till it dies for some reason 🤔 even if I have a charger to hand
But what brings it when iOS charged full at 4 AM when I remove it every weekday at 6:15 AM. Stupid Machine learning.
Helpful as always Renee! All things being equal, which is least damaging: wireless charging, 5W wired charging, 7.5 wireless charging or 18W fast charging?
It’s just strange that when you add the Apple case with the battery in it. It WILL keep your battery at 100% until the case battery is empty.
And with this an Apple case…. 🤔🤯🤬
Charge mine every night if it’s under 50% but to be honest with you, it rarely is.
Use the phone the way you want.
Nice feature