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This is the best BMW GS review. It comes from the owner of many bikes and not a person who reviews bikes for an hour or a week. He's a long-term owner of many bikes and from his experience, delivers solid information. I've watched countless hours of bike reviews from beautifully crafted sales brochure videos to bare-knuckled Aussie Outback testimonials. This review stands out among all them and I've been watching reviews of BMW GS and many other bikes for over 2 years. I've made my final decision between 850 GS, KTM, Tenere, KLR 650, Africa Twin, Triumph Tiger and others. This is the final stop on a long journey. Thank you for this.
This is the review I have waited for . no music ore spectacular images . Just the honest opinion of the owner chairing his experience . Very helpful for me . Made me more happy I just ordered the new 1250 GS ... my first BMW. Thanks for this review .
Thanks! I can put a ton of work into production quality if I want to, but I find most people don't care about fancy videos, they just want honest opinions!
That was the most honest review of a gs I've ever watched. And it's so nice to hear another person who loves this bike as much as me. I think the water cooled gs is magic.
One feature that I've never heard anyone mention, nevertheless very important. The radiators are well protected, being located well above the area where the front wheel flings debris.
Excellent description. I had a F700 BMW and switched to a R 1200GS like yours.The R1200GS is easier to ride than my previous bike. BMW is more expensive because you buy “safety” features and quality. The features are outstanding ABS Pro, ESA, link breaks, hill stopping, traction control, riding modes, etc, etc.....I did ride my bike from NY to Key West an also rode to Nova Scotia. This bike is comfortable and reliable. My next bike will only be another GS.
LOL Same thing here. Started with an F700 GS and 3 months later bought the R1200 GS. And every time I have to explain to people: the 1200 is only more dangerous when compared to the 700 when you talk about your right wrist (meaning throttle!!!). Otherwise in EVERY OTHER feature it feels always more safe!
WOW....youve owned every bike im comparing a GS against. Have a K1600B and i want to add to the stable. Youve sealed the deal for me. Awesome review!!!!
Great review, most everything we want to know about the important characteristics of the motorcycle. You have a unique perspective in having owned so many bikes. I all jealous now!
I have the same 2017 as you, with same color scheme. I was glad to read your comments, because they re-enforced my own evaluation of the bike. The longer I ride it, the more I appreciate its performance. Especially shows up when you push it, as you mentioned.I had a 2013 model without traction control, and never felt comfortable. Big difference. Your review was excellent.
I traded my 2014 R1200RT in for the 2020 1250GS. I'm loving it. Not even Ryan's (FortNine) negative review could diminish my pleasure. I know BMW screws us on the pricing and service costs, but since I knew it going in I can't bitch about it.
1250GS, I really want one. I didn't love Ryans review... the tech is not problematic, in my opinion, and even he admits the bike handles and goes like a dream and is super comfortable.
Love your house!!! I had a 2016 F700gs and got tired of it after 12,000 miles eventough it was a great bike. Then I traded for a 2017 1200gs. Super bike. I used it only for on road long trips. Really comfy and I'm 68
Great review, I seen other you tubers that ended up selling their 1200 for another bike. I had a new 2010 R1200GSA and sold it in 2017 as I need the money and I loved it. My last ride was just over 14,000 km in two weeks from Calgary AB to Alaska (south end to the north end Prudhoe Bay Ak). Great rides. My next bike I plan on traveling the world (first Canada West to East the US East to West the down to South America). Just need to make that $$$$$.
Hello from the UK..Bought my first-ever GS (1250 Exclusive ) last year and love it. So far its been to Norway/Sweden & Spain with given me any problems. The TFT is great, I love the way you can just switch over to kph from mph when in Europe. My only problem with it is the heated grips which only have two settings (very hot & red hot) I wish they had gone with the RT five-stage version.
They are great bikes, I had a 2012 1200. I traded in on an '18 Vstrom 1000XT absolutely stunned how good these new Suzukis are. I was going to go BMW again but just got tired of it treating my bank account like a buffet.
Great Review, like the reviewer, I have owned dozens of bikes over the decades. The GS is Magic and the older versions deliver the same enjoyment as the newer models. Just more refinement every update. Find a clean older model with all the accessories and you are golden, just like the smart reviewer here. However for off road, I prefer my KLR as a mid range ADV short of interstate travels. Simple advice: more off road=KLR, more highway=GS. Ideal buy used and have both like the reviewer. PS I have ridden with the reviewer and he does not crash ofter.
I am not as big a fan of the older ones as you... but you do have one of the better years for the air/oil cooled machines. I agree the cost to own is not bad at all if you buy a used one. They hold value pretty well! I agree about a smaller bike for some trips. The GS is too heavy in some situations.
The Boxer motor design is incredibly strong. Germans are also excellent metallurgists. I’ve dropped, slid, and crashed my non-GS ‘02 R1150R on street & trails, and it’s scratched up but Zero problem. My ‘05 GS has single crash bars on the front and I have no worries. The bike is about 60lbs lighter than the water-cooled ones and I’ll keep it that way ha. 🏁
My 09 too. I don't have traction control or ABS and I like it that way just fine. Cruise would be nice but since I prefer to stay off the highway in Italy, it's hardly noticeable unless I need to make up time and hit the Autostrade. I rode a friend's 2021 R1250GS last summer for a bit and while it's much quicker with cool electronics, I found myself a bit disconnected from the road and longed for my simpler 1200GS. That's not to say if someone gave me a new bike I wouldn't take it, but more for now, basic is better for my style of riding.
Great to have an impartial review by someone who has owned so many bikes, thanks! I’ve got an old 2010 F800gs, $7500 from BMW dealer in 2017 and it came with about $5k of bits on it, including Mosko Motos (fantastic!) etc. It has such a great brap from the exhaust, feels more like a dirt bike which I love, but agree it is too tall (I’m 52, 6ft, 200lbs) & feels heavy when loaded. Shaft drive and tubeless is a huge plus on the 1200 (chain lubing no biggie unless sandy, but tubes are a hassle!), making me want to step up. I’ve done two 6000 mile trips so far in the US, solo camping ‘easy’ versions of the Continental & Pacific Divide, lots of forestry/logging roads. Fell in love with the 1200 Rallye but it was just too new & spendy at the time and I would have had to kit it out from scratch too. Thinking about getting a bike for the UK right now and to tour Europe over the next few years, I’ve been looking at the Yamaha Tenere 700, but you’ve just put the 1200 Rallye back on my radar. I think a lot more riders would go for the 1200gs if they were more honest with themselves about their rides! (road vs off-road).
I am going to purchase an adventure bike in January, and have been strongly inclined towards the R1200GS, likely slightly used, but was also evaluating the Africa Twin, the Triumph Tiger, the Tenere, etc. Your forthright evaluation has lock me in for the R1200GS. Thanks for an excellent presentation.
Excellent review thanks. I'm thinking of moving up to this from my 2019 F750GS. The 750 is a great bike but I've got a hankering for the boxer plus I hate chain maintenance! :)
Thank you for such a great review and awesome pics of your bike....i was on the fence about trading in my Honda NC750DCT for this but I am now leaning more in this direction because of your unbiased review. Much appreciated.
BMW guys know what they do and if they haven't made ajustable pro-mode there musta been reason for that, don't you think so? That is the best GS review I've seen on youtube! Thanks a lot for sharing, because you've answered a whole bunch of questions that carantine lock out wouldn't be enough to google or find it myself! Keep up the great job and thanks again! Ride safe!
Excellent review. Just bought a 2017.5 and taking delivery in a couple weeks. Have had a 2016 Versys 650 since new, so will be a massive upgrade. Needed something bigger so I can take the wife on some trips. I am going to miss the Versys though. I road that bike across the country doing 5300 miles in 12 days. 107 degree heat to 13,000+ ft elevations, torrential downpours, the works. All loaded down with gear and camping equipment. It never skipped a beat.
Big Rock, thanks for the vid Mate, just acquired a new 1250. I could not agree more with your review. I have also had a ton of bikes over the years and nothing compares. The best do it all bike on the market!
What a great review. I’m in the market for a new bike as I’m having issues and a battle with Triumph about my Scrambler 1200 which has been in and out of service 6 times in the 10 months that I’ve owned it. I went with the triumph over the GS solely due to the price difference. Regretfully. Again, really good video. Thanks for posting and love your backyard!
Love the R1250 GSA HP. Waiting on my 2020. The only thing these bikes need is a decent horn. Can you believe that? This bike sees about 80% or more of super slab. Such an easy fix for BMW. In any event, the Denali Sound Bomb is getting installed ASAP. Great review! Life’s short, just buy the bike.
Nice review! I have the same exact bike which I purchased last august. Love it!!! It had the Akro muffler but saved $500 by having them put the stock muffler back on it. Looking to add lower crash bars and aux lights this year. It was a hold over/demo bike so I got a pretty good deal on it.
Totally agree with you that the GS1200/1250 feels like a much lighter bike. I've ridden a friend's 1200 and recently the 1250 he's upgraded to. I haven't ridden as many adv bikes as you for comparison, but I do think this is still the benchmark in the sector. I will be looking for a nice pre-owned example as my next bike. Great video!
10 days ago I bought a second hand BMW S1000XR as a possible replacement for my R1200GSA. The bike is a beast, but besides the incredible power, acceleration and if one is into that, the inline 4 exhaust note, I would choose the GSA over the XR any day of the week. I just sold the XR today and I’m so happy that I still kept the GSA. Just took her out for a spin, and having ridden a different bike for the last 10 days, makes me appreciate my GSA sooooooo much more. It’s the most complete, comfortable, confidence inspiring and versatile bike I have ever owned, and I’m sure I will keep her.
This is the first and only video that has ever sold me on the idea of a GS. I've seen them up close and they are huge. The fact that you've owned so many bikes gives this video weight.
Well put. You only know what your talking about if you have road one yourself in regards to your comments on the ride. I have had many motorcycles myself & my 2013 GS Adventure is in a class of it's own. I love how it handles on the road & if I want to hit the dirt roads & off road it's up for that as well. The weight is no joke & not to be taken lightly!!! These are truly amazing bikes... Nice Video & one of the best reviews I have watched by far... 2 Thumbs up!!!
I currently own a couple of bikes but my main 'go to' bike is a 2016 BMW R1200GS. I took a year off work a while back and took a ride from Alaska to Argentina on a R1200GSA, in all honestly I didn't like the thought that maybe I was playing it safe and riding a bike that on paper was the best, but did it have the best character and soul. After the trip I changed the bike several times, including a Triumph Tiger 800 and Ducati Multistrada enduro, both had some advantages (but even bigger disadvantages) now I'm back on a BMW, I believe the GS is the best overall it really does everything remarkably well (I rate the GS much higher than the GSA) I think the next move is to bite the bullet and pay the extra and trade in my 2016 for a new 1250GS
Thank you again. Would you make a video explanation why you didn't go for the GS Adventure instead of standard GS ? You could talk about the differences between the two etc? Pretty please.?
Thanks for validating my opinion about my 2018 GS. The pleasure of riding & smiling has been mine for 50 years. Mostly big bikes for the last 30. Including 2 Ventures, 5 Wings & 3 BMW’s. My 1200 GS is without doubt the best & most comfortable bike ever. Long distance is my thing riding in all of the lower 48 & 8 Provinces. First trip on my new GS last year was from Kelowna BC to Montreal Quebec. Including side trips, 16,000 kms on mostly secondary byways and tent camping while in transit. My BMW 1200 GS is amazingly nimble & only sips fuel at an average of 55 mph ( 90 mph) . With its 125 HP it is amazingly fast too when required. I can’t tell you how fast, on the grounds that it will incriminate me!
I have a sincere question. How is it that both you and the reviewer agree that this bike is more comfortable than a Honda GW? That just baffles me as the gold wing looks like a recliner LOL. Currently I’m on a Harley dyna super glide which is not comfortable for longer rides. I really want to get a GS but I want to be able to do long 8+ hr trips.
Oh you are so right about the GS "feel". I bought a GS1250 and it my first GS and BMW. People don't believe me but when I ask them if they have ever ridden a GS they say no, that's all they have to say!
Outstanding review! I had a 2011 GS A and stupidly sold it. 9 years later and I am selling the Duc and Harley to go back to this bike. As you said, I as well simply have not found any other bike as accommodating in so many environments and situations as a GS A.
Great review. Not being someone that rides off road much, I completely understand your explanation of how a heavy bike can feel lighter because of the way the weight is distributed. Also agree on tire size for overall purposes.
I love this review and your GS! I ride a street bob 09 , drz400 sm and an R1 04. I was thinking about a speed triple 1050, or aGS, and i got to admit, the GS it’s not making it easy. The more i learn about it the more i like it.
Hi there, I watched this and was impressed. However, and if you can, I would like to know your impressions or BMW's RNineT Urban G/S. Incidentally, I have a 2018 GS Exclusive which I have added a few bits too and it's my twelfth beemer. Mine was secondhand too with only three hundred miles showing so saved a couple of grand over a new one which allowed me to add a few things for the extra I saved. I've subscribed to watch more. Take care and stay safe.
I agree with most everything you’ve said about the GS. I’ve been riding the 2016 GSA for two years now and done some long rides/tours and some fire roads. These bikes are so comfortable and ridiculously capable. Suspension, gearing, riding position all fantastic. When ever I’m off-rode I have to manually turn off traction control and anti-lock which is a pain. I wish there was better use of the left rolling toggle since I don’t have bmw navigation but I think they improved that in 2018. The menus/buttons for riding modes is a bit clunky. Really don’t like having to stare at the dash while riding. The cost is well... high. But you really get what you pay for at least with BMW. I don’t know about the GS but the GSA is TALL! My inseam is 30 inch so my legs are pretty short. Great review! Enjoyed the watch.
Hi on the 1250gsa you can have enduro pro mode where you can set up stuff like, turn off the ABS or trac plus many other stuff. Then back on the main road go back to road mode it's AWESOME plus low frame 29 inside leg .... I love my R1250GSA HP
I know you’re trying to build your channel so I just wanted to give you some constructive criticism. Loose the language. I watch these videos with my grandkids in the room and I had to pay the “swear jar” for you. Really even some adults will be put off and tune out which is exactly what you don’t want. BTW I’m picking up a 2021 R1250 GS adventure at the dealer this coming Tuesday and will be watching your channel for accessories and other content. Keep up the good work!
Love your vids, and this is no exception. I've got a late R1200 06 (Nov) one with 27,000 miles on. No ABS and No brake servo Low Tech, just how I like it ! And as the original concept, a go anywhere do almost everyting. Like most bikes some have clunky boxes, mines silk smooth ( some of it, is how you use it in my opinion.) And yes, the clutch at the Back is a potential Pain in the Ain. But I love it ! Thanks Again Roj Uk
A bike can NEVER be too clean. One can ride hard & still have a spotless machine. Over my lifetime this obsession with cleanliness has shown me that this is how you get to know whatever it is you're working with. This is a great "preventive maintenance program" (the USN taught me this). I carry tools for myself but usually it's for others who don't :) I'm not one who has stacks of dollars to throw away so I maintain my machines, It doesn't matter if it's a lawnmower or a home ~ take care of it.
I have to agree i have R1250gsa hp Its AWESOME, i did the landsend to John O'Groats in 24hours it's about 900 miles, got to the end waited for other to finish felt like been riding for an hour or so not 21 hours non stop
Don't beat yourself up for not buying the 1250. Mine sounds like a cement mixer (the left cylinder issue BMW won't acknowledge). Right now I'm looking for a way of trading for a 1200 that won't be financially painful.
If you want a touring bike, you don't want a chain or belt driven, shaft simply beats all this in everyway with less maintenance when riding offroad and wet on road.
A+ review and comparison of R1200GS to other adventure bikes. I agree with every comment regarding why the GS is such a superb machine, like you I want the ultimate motorcycle experience. I all-day rented a number of adventure bikes before narrowing it down between an Africa twin and 1200GS. I ended up buying a used excellent condition low mileage 2017 Africa twin with every conceivable after market accessory for $10k. A similar low mileage fully loaded used 2017 1200 GS was $18k. I went with the cost-effective used Africa twin, but I foresee a 1200 GS in my future in a couple years. I like the idea of having an aspirational bike, such as a 1200/1250GS in my future. With CycleTrader and Craigslist there’s always a good deal available on a perfect machine if your willing to search and wait for right motorcycle. I buy lightly used but like new as I am a practical man - there’s fun in the search.
Agree with that! I have really enjoyed owning many different bikes, and probably would not enjoy the GS as much as I do now, if I had not owned many of the competitors. The AT is a fine machine, I sincerely miss mine and wish I could afford to keep both!
Big Rock ADV keep the excellent videos coming, I enjoyed your klr650 and Africa twin videos way back when those posted. what I liked best about the 2017 1200GS was the ESA suspension and ability to lower it , cruise control, more responsive on road 19 inch front wheel for my type of riding. Overall the 1200GS is a well engineered integrated package that is near excellent for multiple types of riding as you mentioned. AT better off road, refreshingly simple electronics, lots of aftermarket accessories, significantly lower used prices, lower maintenance costs and likely more reliable. It would be nice to have multiple machines.
Mine was a heap of shit. Faults with servo braking system and the ignition cutting out. Bought mine brand new from a BMW main dealer in the UK. Owned it for 18 months and for 6 of those it was at the dealer having repairs. I was still recieving recall notices for the bike 2 years after selling it.
Nice review, great perspective. I’ve had about seven different “ADV” bikes, if you will, and think the BMW 1200GS is one of the smoothest of them all. The “farkles” are second to none. Haven’t ridden a 1250 yet, I know myself and don’t want to have another payment yet. Ha ha. I used to commute on my GS and do long distance unpaved on the GSA, I do typically take a different bike on more serious unpaved or trail but it’s a personal preference. I did have a couple ADV’s I was not comfortable off asphalt (I do have a heavy throttle wrist) but the BMW does give confidence in almost any situation. Thanks for the share. 👍🏼
Oh, and agree with the Tenere, it was in the garage for a short time. It was a very top heavy ADV, and tended to overheat easy. Didn’t buy an Africa Twin, went with the Tiger after the test rides.
Had a 14 GS I bought at dealer with 26k miles. Road for 2 years commuting 40 miles each way. In Indiana weather, So traded for an 18 r1200rt. Not the same ! The suspention is not the same at all. Wished I kept the GS. Sad !
I recently bought a GS 1250 my first GS I had another 2013 BMW that I rode for 29.000 miles. No lie after riding it for 100 miles I felt more confident and could ride it faster and safer than my old bike. The suspension and torque make this bike like a magic carpet. No matter what you own or what you think you want next, go ride one and I think you will know then that you would love a GS.
great review! regretting selling my 2018 GS..I guess I have to go for the 1250 now and try to convince my other side of the bed ;p ..which system do you use for your panniers? greetings from Belgium
R-1200GS 2006 K-25 117000 K and going strong I told the dealer ill trade it in when it hits 200K dont really care for the bells and whistles gimicks of the newer ones so a 2011 should make me happy
The problems with final drives is directly to the splines and how they are vented. In the older bikes, there is a design flaw regarding the venting and how moisture is getting into the tube. Newer bikes are getting a new rubber valve that restricts water from getting in. The moisture will cause the splines to rust. So the real opinion is whether this has fixed the problem, or do you need to do your greasing of the splines more often. Given the amount of labor, I am going to do my own splines greasing more often and not taking any chances.
Your AT review was part of my research, I got one and love it. You've found a new love in your life and moved on. How long will be before the bike you are praising today is offloaded for pastures new? I say, wanting what you have can sometimes be better than constantly having what you want. We all know that our tastes change as we go through life. I not against the Broke-My-Wallet by the way!
I’ve had most adventure motorbikes, and everyone of significance currently in this class. For the last 10 years I’ve also owned the 1200gs and gsa’s and had the other bikes to try and find the second best adventure bike for my purposes. Ended up adding a r1200gs Rallye to my 2015 as the best second bike and moved on to sourcing the best third bike. Long story short, currently own three R1200gs bikes, each for different purposes and with different tires fitted, a R1200gs adventure 2015, a R1200gs Rally 2018 and a R1200gs Trophy (base spec with no extras) 2016. There really is no other bike that gives me that amazing “Welcome Home” feeling. I have honestly tried to like the other medium and large adventure bikes, but each had something that annoyed me to no end which the large gs bikes just don’t have. From adventure touring on the adventure, outback trails on the Rallye or commuting and city duty on the Trophy, I always feel comfortable and at home. It simply is what it is.
PS: the riding mode limitations are only in the US. In other countries you simply leave the plug in and you have access to all modes. Same thing with the indicators. Bit of a millennial nanny thing in my opinion.
What I say about this bike, and I own the 2018 GS Adventure (low suspension...I’m short), is that it’s one of those rare things in life you can find. In that I mean, that it’s not the best at anything, BUT IT IS...very, very good at every thing. Get one. Just friggin’ get one. That said, like all brands, BMW will have issues. Look up The Misendend Flyer’s repair on his rear monoshock. Criminal, BMW. I mean rrrrreally criminal to sneak that crap in. BMW really does stand for “Bring My Wallet”. And I still say get one.
Great review, the best I've seen actually. Odd question, what is the width of the handle bars? I need to know it this will go through my back yard door. Thanks in advance
I think you are misunderstanding Enduro Pro and Dynamic Pro modes. The Pro modes simply give you the ability to CUSTOMIZE the settings. I have a 2018 GS and I just decided to install the plug and customize the two Pro modes to exactly match the standard Enduro and Dynamic settings. But you can, for example, set the Dynamic Pro throttle response to ROAD, if you want a softer throttle.
Dude, BMW’s with 100k miles have a ton of problems when they get over 50k mikes. Everything from The front headset bearing, front suspension, clutch slaves and many other problems are common. Maintenance costs are no joke either.
Subjective, of course, but if you can get past the look of the front end,I’m sure it’s a fine machine.The same can be said of alot of bikes in this genre.Great review, thank you.
You are of the reason's I am riding one now. After seeing your ride the 1250 everywhere and that test ride also convinced me! It is an under-rated bike and does not deserve the "coffee shop only" stigma it sometimes gets.
Great owner review, for a bike I didn't "get" until now (I love the Adventure version, and the XR even more). Next time, how about adding some offroad and road riding video to prove your point?
I like the review and I agree on every point. The 850 feels a lot heavier off road. The 1200 or the 1250 is much better drive in every respect. I would like to learn more about the super ten
Really great video. Very informative. What do you think of the new black/yellow 40th anniversary GSA? I’m buying one on Monday, trading in my 2020 RS1250 that I wasn’t happy about for long tours. 10+ hours.
@@BigRockMoto you like it better than the other color options this year? I’m worried I may get tired of it. I’ve polled some people and it’s like right down the middle. It’s a tough choice.
When I watch some of these reviews of ultra high tech modern bikes, I often wonder how I ever managed to travel all those thousands and thousands of miles on my old XTZ ten to twelve years ago with my crappy old saddle bags and rattly old top box!
"The parts are ridiculously expensive"? Not on my planet (or ok, my country). BMW parts and servicing is well close to the mean prices of same type motorcycles. That some parts are too expensive for what they are (brand irrelevant), that yes definitely. Also, after warranty expires, it is a pretty serviceable bike by any expert mechanic. As for the bike itself being overpriced, I doubt it "spikes" much (or at all) the pricing of the category. Thing is, that everybody gets it with everything but the kitchen sink. Extras do cost. Also as it markets itself as the bike that everybody else is copying (which is not far from the truth), it would justify some price overhead (if there is one).
@@jtwu8931 true! Why is it expensive at all when comparing it to other bikes with lots of chrome. Guess good riding isn't that expensive at all when compared to riding with "style" :)
NULUSIOS I have a GSA too. There is some silly shit man, for example the special wrench required to open the oil filler caps. Most shops will also charge more per hour for a European bike than a Japanese one.
John Docksey In Beamerland, if you have to ask for the price it’s not for you. It is way more expensive to fix and maintain than Japanese bikes in the US.
I have one of those older 800s (a 2010 F800ST) with the Rotax engine. It's not a GS, of course, but I still agree with you on many of the positive aspects, such as wind protection, comfort, drive maintenance (it has a belt drive), etc. I've only owned a Suzuki GSX650F before this one, and in those regards, it's much better. However, I don't think reliability issues with BMWs are as uncommon as you mentioned. I'm not saying they're like Alfa Romeos, but there are quite a few bad design choices, both small and not-so-small, that make mine seem like a liability as it ages. The engines and probably the other important bits will probably last a long time, but it's the peripherals and controllers/actuators, etc. that cause all the trouble. Hopefully, they have since been rectified, although Ryan F9's recent review of the R1250GS suggests that they might have added some new Achilles-heels. On the whole, I feel like that trade-off between comfort/features and reliability/maintainability between European and Japanese bikes is still as strong as ever, although that paint-flaking thing on the forks is unbelievably dumb (that too by Honda, of all brands).
Top review. Can vouch for it all as I own a 2013. I was sold as soon as I test rode one and experienced the low c of g. Easy to service and is almost the only bike you need. For me the seat is too soft. Suspension is awesome.
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This is the best BMW GS review. It comes from the owner of many bikes and not a person who reviews bikes for an hour or a week. He's a long-term owner of many bikes and from his experience, delivers solid information. I've watched countless hours of bike reviews from beautifully crafted sales brochure videos to bare-knuckled Aussie Outback testimonials. This review stands out among all them and I've been watching reviews of BMW GS and many other bikes for over 2 years. I've made my final decision between 850 GS, KTM, Tenere, KLR 650, Africa Twin, Triumph Tiger and others. This is the final stop on a long journey. Thank you for this.
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This is the review I have waited for . no music ore spectacular images . Just the honest opinion of the owner chairing his experience . Very helpful for me . Made me more happy I just ordered the new 1250 GS ... my first BMW. Thanks for this review .
Thanks! I can put a ton of work into production quality if I want to, but I find most people don't care about fancy videos, they just want honest opinions!
@@BigRockMoto Yes!! Exactly.
👌 how much could be the cost of this bike be, with all these accessories I see on this very one?
I mean a used one in good condition
gratz!
Well done. I have a 15-year-old 1200 GS that still delivers like a charm.
That was the most honest review of a gs I've ever watched. And it's so nice to hear another person who loves this bike as much as me. I think the water cooled gs is magic.
One feature that I've never heard anyone mention, nevertheless very important. The radiators are well protected, being located well above the area where the front wheel flings debris.
Excellent description. I had a F700 BMW and switched to a R 1200GS like yours.The R1200GS is easier to ride than my previous bike. BMW is more expensive because you buy “safety” features and quality. The features are outstanding ABS Pro, ESA, link breaks, hill stopping, traction control, riding modes, etc, etc.....I did ride my bike from NY to Key West an also rode to Nova Scotia. This bike is comfortable and reliable. My next bike will only be another GS.
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Same thing here. Started with an F700 GS and 3 months later bought the R1200 GS.
And every time I have to explain to people: the 1200 is only more dangerous when compared to the 700 when you talk about your right wrist (meaning throttle!!!). Otherwise in EVERY OTHER feature it feels always more safe!
Excellent video. Thanks taking the time to film and edit it and of course for positing it for our benefit. Keep up the good work! -Migs
Thanks, will do!
WOW....youve owned every bike im comparing a GS against. Have a K1600B and i want to add to the stable. Youve sealed the deal for me. Awesome review!!!!
Great review, most everything we want to know about the important characteristics of the motorcycle. You have a unique perspective in having owned so many bikes. I all jealous now!
Instablaster...
I have the same 2017 as you, with same color scheme. I was glad to read your comments, because they re-enforced my own evaluation of the bike. The longer I ride it, the more I appreciate its performance. Especially shows up when you push it, as you mentioned.I had a 2013 model without traction control, and never felt comfortable. Big difference. Your review was excellent.
I traded my 2014 R1200RT in for the 2020 1250GS. I'm loving it. Not even Ryan's (FortNine) negative review could diminish my pleasure.
I know BMW screws us on the pricing and service costs, but since I knew it going in I can't bitch about it.
1250GS, I really want one. I didn't love Ryans review... the tech is not problematic, in my opinion, and even he admits the bike handles and goes like a dream and is super comfortable.
Love your house!!! I had a 2016 F700gs and got tired of it after 12,000 miles eventough it was a great bike. Then I traded for a 2017 1200gs. Super bike. I used it only for on road long trips. Really comfy and I'm 68
Thanks for sharing 👍
Great review, I seen other you tubers that ended up selling their 1200 for another bike. I had a new 2010 R1200GSA and sold it in 2017 as I need the money and I loved it. My last ride was just over 14,000 km in two weeks from Calgary AB to Alaska (south end to the north end Prudhoe Bay Ak). Great rides. My next bike I plan on traveling the world (first Canada West to East the US East to West the down to South America). Just need to make that $$$$$.
Such a good review!!! One of the best, if not the best one. A honest review from an experienced maxitrail user. All the best from Argentina!
Hello from the UK..Bought my first-ever GS (1250 Exclusive ) last year and love it. So far its been to Norway/Sweden & Spain with given me any problems. The TFT is great, I love the way you can just switch over to kph from mph when in Europe. My only problem with it is the heated grips which only have two settings (very hot & red hot) I wish they had gone with the RT five-stage version.
Owned a 1200 GS and 1200 GSA - Loved both. Great bikes!
They are great bikes, I had a 2012 1200. I traded in on an '18 Vstrom 1000XT absolutely stunned how good these new Suzukis are.
I was going to go BMW again but just got tired of it treating my bank account like a buffet.
Great Review, like the reviewer, I have owned dozens of bikes over the decades. The GS is Magic and the older versions deliver the same enjoyment as the newer models. Just more refinement every update. Find a clean older model with all the accessories and you are golden, just like the smart reviewer here. However for off road, I prefer my KLR as a mid range ADV short of interstate travels. Simple advice: more off road=KLR, more highway=GS. Ideal buy used and have both like the reviewer. PS I have ridden with the reviewer and he does not crash ofter.
I am not as big a fan of the older ones as you... but you do have one of the better years for the air/oil cooled machines. I agree the cost to own is not bad at all if you buy a used one. They hold value pretty well! I agree about a smaller bike for some trips. The GS is too heavy in some situations.
The Boxer motor design is incredibly strong. Germans are also excellent metallurgists. I’ve dropped, slid, and crashed my non-GS ‘02 R1150R on street & trails, and it’s scratched up but Zero problem. My ‘05 GS has single crash bars on the front and I have no worries. The bike is about 60lbs lighter than the water-cooled ones and I’ll keep it that way ha. 🏁
My 09 too. I don't have traction control or ABS and I like it that way just fine. Cruise would be nice but since I prefer to stay off the highway in Italy, it's hardly noticeable unless I need to make up time and hit the Autostrade. I rode a friend's 2021 R1250GS last summer for a bit and while it's much quicker with cool electronics, I found myself a bit disconnected from the road and longed for my simpler 1200GS. That's not to say if someone gave me a new bike I wouldn't take it, but more for now, basic is better for my style of riding.
Great to have an impartial review by someone who has owned so many bikes, thanks! I’ve got an old 2010 F800gs, $7500 from BMW dealer in 2017 and it came with about $5k of bits on it, including Mosko Motos (fantastic!) etc. It has such a great brap from the exhaust, feels more like a dirt bike which I love, but agree it is too tall (I’m 52, 6ft, 200lbs) & feels heavy when loaded. Shaft drive and tubeless is a huge plus on the 1200 (chain lubing no biggie unless sandy, but tubes are a hassle!), making me want to step up. I’ve done two 6000 mile trips so far in the US, solo camping ‘easy’ versions of the Continental & Pacific Divide, lots of forestry/logging roads. Fell in love with the 1200 Rallye but it was just too new & spendy at the time and I would have had to kit it out from scratch too. Thinking about getting a bike for the UK right now and to tour Europe over the next few years, I’ve been looking at the Yamaha Tenere 700, but you’ve just put the 1200 Rallye back on my radar. I think a lot more riders would go for the 1200gs if they were more honest with themselves about their rides! (road vs off-road).
Good review. The GS is solid, well engineered as you said, and an all-around excellent motorcycle.
I am going to purchase an adventure bike in January, and have been strongly inclined towards the R1200GS, likely slightly used, but was also evaluating the Africa Twin, the Triumph Tiger, the Tenere, etc. Your forthright evaluation has lock me in for the R1200GS. Thanks for an excellent presentation.
Excellent review thanks. I'm thinking of moving up to this from my 2019 F750GS. The 750 is a great bike but I've got a hankering for the boxer plus I hate chain maintenance! :)
I bought a 2018 GS Rallye last week. Absolutely love it! :) £2500 cheaper than the 2019 1250.
That is the most detailed review I’ve watched for this bike. Thank you!
Thank you for such a great review and awesome pics of your bike....i was on the fence about trading in my Honda NC750DCT for this but I am now leaning more in this direction because of your unbiased review. Much appreciated.
Thanks
BMW guys know what they do and if they haven't made ajustable pro-mode there musta been reason for that, don't you think so? That is the best GS review I've seen on youtube! Thanks a lot for sharing, because you've answered a whole bunch of questions that carantine lock out wouldn't be enough to google or find it myself! Keep up the great job and thanks again! Ride safe!
Thanks. I still want multi level traction control. Like ktm or honda.
Excellent review. Just bought a 2017.5 and taking delivery in a couple weeks. Have had a 2016 Versys 650 since new, so will be a massive upgrade. Needed something bigger so I can take the wife on some trips. I am going to miss the Versys though. I road that bike across the country doing 5300 miles in 12 days. 107 degree heat to 13,000+ ft elevations, torrential downpours, the works. All loaded down with gear and camping equipment. It never skipped a beat.
Big Rock, thanks for the vid Mate, just acquired a new 1250. I could not agree more with your review. I have also had a ton of bikes over the years and nothing compares. The best do it all bike on the market!
What a great review. I’m in the market for a new bike as I’m having issues and a battle with Triumph about my Scrambler 1200 which has been in and out of service 6 times in the 10 months that I’ve owned it. I went with the triumph over the GS solely due to the price difference. Regretfully. Again, really good video. Thanks for posting and love your backyard!
Thanks
Love the R1250 GSA HP. Waiting on my 2020. The only thing these bikes need is a decent horn. Can you believe that? This bike sees about 80% or more of super slab. Such an easy fix for BMW. In any event, the Denali Sound Bomb is getting installed ASAP. Great review! Life’s short, just buy the bike.
Nice review! I have the same exact bike which I purchased last august. Love it!!! It had the Akro muffler but saved $500 by having them put the stock muffler back on it. Looking to add lower crash bars and aux lights this year. It was a hold over/demo bike so I got a pretty good deal on it.
Totally agree with you that the GS1200/1250 feels like a much lighter bike. I've ridden a friend's 1200 and recently the 1250 he's upgraded to. I haven't ridden as many adv bikes as you for comparison, but I do think this is still the benchmark in the sector. I will be looking for a nice pre-owned example as my next bike. Great video!
10 days ago I bought a second hand BMW S1000XR as a possible replacement for my R1200GSA. The bike is a beast, but besides the incredible power, acceleration and if one is into that, the inline 4 exhaust note, I would choose the GSA over the XR any day of the week. I just sold the XR today and I’m so happy that I still kept the GSA. Just took her out for a spin, and having ridden a different bike for the last 10 days, makes me appreciate my GSA sooooooo much more.
It’s the most complete, comfortable, confidence inspiring and versatile bike I have ever owned, and I’m sure I will keep her.
One of the best reviews/info I have ever watched on 1200gs. Thanks.
This is the first and only video that has ever sold me on the idea of a GS. I've seen them up close and they are huge. The fact that you've owned so many bikes gives this video weight.
Thanks! I do sincerely love it.
Great review mate. I have had mine for four days. Best bike I have ever had.
What happened after those four days?
Well put. You only know what your talking about if you have road one yourself in regards to your comments on the ride. I have had many motorcycles myself & my 2013 GS Adventure is in a class of it's own. I love how it handles on the road & if I want to hit the dirt roads & off road it's up for that as well. The weight is no joke & not to be taken lightly!!! These are truly amazing bikes... Nice Video & one of the best reviews I have watched by far... 2 Thumbs up!!!
Great Review you are so on about where this bike shines. Your detail is some of the best out there. Keep up the great work!!!!
Much appreciated!
once you get the taste of a GS - you never ride an other one ;-) All the best from Germany.
Ah ja der kleine Max
@@jakemorandthemomoz8154 Beste Grüße große Moz
@@minimax9452 Danke
I currently own a couple of bikes but my main 'go to' bike is a 2016 BMW R1200GS. I took a year off work a while back and took a ride from Alaska to Argentina on a R1200GSA, in all honestly I didn't like the thought that maybe I was playing it safe and riding a bike that on paper was the best, but did it have the best character and soul. After the trip I changed the bike several times, including a Triumph Tiger 800 and Ducati Multistrada enduro, both had some advantages (but even bigger disadvantages) now I'm back on a BMW, I believe the GS is the best overall it really does everything remarkably well (I rate the GS much higher than the GSA) I think the next move is to bite the bullet and pay the extra and trade in my 2016 for a new 1250GS
Thank you again. Would you make a video explanation why you didn't go for the GS Adventure instead of standard GS ? You could talk about the differences between the two etc? Pretty please.?
Thanks for validating my opinion about my 2018 GS. The pleasure of riding & smiling has been mine for 50 years. Mostly big bikes for the last 30. Including 2 Ventures, 5 Wings & 3 BMW’s. My 1200 GS is without doubt the best & most comfortable bike ever. Long distance is my thing riding in all of the lower 48 & 8 Provinces. First trip on my new GS last year was from Kelowna BC to Montreal Quebec. Including side trips, 16,000 kms on mostly secondary byways and tent camping while in transit. My BMW 1200 GS is amazingly nimble & only sips fuel at an average of 55 mph ( 90 mph) . With its 125 HP it is amazingly fast too when required. I can’t tell you how fast, on the grounds that it will incriminate me!
I have a sincere question. How is it that both you and the reviewer agree that this bike is more comfortable than a Honda GW? That just baffles me as the gold wing looks like a recliner LOL. Currently I’m on a Harley dyna super glide which is not comfortable for longer rides. I really want to get a GS but I want to be able to do long 8+ hr trips.
Oh you are so right about the GS "feel". I bought a GS1250 and it my first GS and BMW. People don't believe me but when I ask them if they have ever ridden a GS they say no, that's all they have to say!
Outstanding review! I had a 2011 GS A and stupidly sold it. 9 years later and I am selling the Duc and Harley to go back to this bike. As you said, I as well simply have not found any other bike as accommodating in so many environments and situations as a GS A.
Right on!
Great review. Not being someone that rides off road much, I completely understand your explanation of how a heavy bike can feel lighter because of the way the weight is distributed. Also agree on tire size for overall purposes.
AWESOME review! Thank you for taking the time to make and post this video.
I love this review and your GS! I ride a street bob 09 , drz400 sm and an R1 04. I was thinking about a speed triple 1050, or aGS, and i got to admit, the GS it’s not making it easy. The more i learn about it the more i like it.
Hi there, I watched this and was impressed. However, and if you can, I would like to know your impressions or BMW's RNineT Urban G/S. Incidentally, I have a 2018 GS Exclusive which I have added a few bits too and it's my twelfth beemer. Mine was secondhand too with only three hundred miles showing so saved a couple of grand over a new one which allowed me to add a few things for the extra I saved. I've subscribed to watch more. Take care and stay safe.
I agree with most everything you’ve said about the GS. I’ve been riding the 2016 GSA for two years now and done some long rides/tours and some fire roads. These bikes are so comfortable and ridiculously capable. Suspension, gearing, riding position all fantastic. When ever I’m off-rode I have to manually turn off traction control and anti-lock which is a pain.
I wish there was better use of the left rolling toggle since I don’t have bmw navigation but I think they improved that in 2018. The menus/buttons for riding modes is a bit clunky. Really don’t like having to stare at the dash while riding.
The cost is well... high. But you really get what you pay for at least with BMW.
I don’t know about the GS but the GSA is TALL! My inseam is 30 inch so my legs are pretty short.
Great review! Enjoyed the watch.
Hi on the 1250gsa you can have enduro pro mode where you can set up stuff like, turn off the ABS or trac plus many other stuff. Then back on the main road go back to road mode it's AWESOME plus low frame 29 inside leg .... I love my R1250GSA HP
Great video, thanks for doing this. I'm looking into getting one I think the 1250GS is the way to go, See y'all out there
Amazing place you live. Forget bike I just scope surroundings and I can say you are lucky with your place
The comparison of the 850 vs 1250 helps. I looked at the 850 and decided on the 1250, but it is nice to hear that you felt the same.
I know you’re trying to build your channel so I just wanted to give you some constructive criticism. Loose the language. I watch these videos with my grandkids in the room and I had to pay the “swear jar” for you. Really even some adults will be put off and tune out which is exactly what you don’t want. BTW I’m picking up a 2021 R1250 GS adventure at the dealer this coming Tuesday and will be watching your channel for accessories and other content. Keep up the good work!
Fair assessment,thks.Something you missed:Takes 5 min's to clean air filter compared with other bikes out there as well.
Thank you. Excellent review.
Just bought a 2013 GS. Have not ridden it yet. Anon.
Hope you enjoy it!
Love your vids, and this is no exception. I've got a late R1200 06 (Nov) one with 27,000 miles on. No ABS and No brake servo Low Tech, just how I like it ! And as the original concept, a go anywhere do almost everyting. Like most bikes some have clunky boxes, mines silk smooth ( some of it, is how you use it in my opinion.) And yes, the clutch at the Back is a potential Pain in the Ain. But I love it !
Thanks Again Roj Uk
I've had a Ducati ST3 for 16 years. Never considered changing it. Does everything I want from a touring bike..
Including off road?
So why are you here?
6k mile valve adjustments, chain and ergos would make it a pain in the ass for serious riding/adventuring and racking up miles.
Nothing in this world is perfect but the R1200/1250 GS comes pretty damn close. Ive had several---I love these bikes!
Hands down best motorcycle in the world.
A bike can NEVER be too clean. One can ride hard & still have a spotless machine. Over my lifetime this obsession with cleanliness has shown me that this is how you get to know whatever it is you're working with. This is a great "preventive maintenance program" (the USN taught me this). I carry tools for myself but usually it's for others who don't :) I'm not one who has stacks of dollars to throw away so I maintain my machines, It doesn't matter if it's a lawnmower or a home ~ take care of it.
4yr old but first time watching, Why it just popped up and it's the bike I ride. 50000+ Miles on mine. no problems.
I have to agree i have R1250gsa hp Its AWESOME, i did the landsend to John O'Groats in 24hours it's about 900 miles, got to the end waited for other to finish felt like been riding for an hour or so not 21 hours non stop
Don't beat yourself up for not buying the 1250. Mine sounds like a cement mixer (the left cylinder issue BMW won't acknowledge). Right now I'm looking for a way of trading for a 1200 that won't be financially painful.
Great review & even better home site. Put in a reservation for a 22 today.
If you want a touring bike, you don't want a chain or belt driven, shaft simply beats all this in everyway with less maintenance when riding offroad and wet on road.
I still ride a 2007 standard model gs, 100 hp. I totally agree with your opinion about the gs and almost all you say apply on my 2007. Thanks.
Great review, thanks for the honesty.
Can you list the mods you have on the bike (which racks, skid, engine guards, tires, windscreen, etc).
A+ review and comparison of R1200GS to other adventure bikes. I agree with every comment regarding why the GS is such a superb machine, like you I want the ultimate motorcycle experience. I all-day rented a number of adventure bikes before narrowing it down between an Africa twin and 1200GS. I ended up buying a used excellent condition low mileage 2017 Africa twin with every conceivable after market accessory for $10k. A similar low mileage fully loaded used 2017 1200 GS was $18k. I went with the cost-effective used Africa twin, but I foresee a 1200 GS in my future in a couple years. I like the idea of having an aspirational bike, such as a 1200/1250GS in my future. With CycleTrader and Craigslist there’s always a good deal available on a perfect machine if your willing to search and wait for right motorcycle. I buy lightly used but like new as I am a practical man - there’s fun in the search.
Agree with that! I have really enjoyed owning many different bikes, and probably would not enjoy the GS as much as I do now, if I had not owned many of the competitors. The AT is a fine machine, I sincerely miss mine and wish I could afford to keep both!
Big Rock ADV keep the excellent videos coming, I enjoyed your klr650 and Africa twin videos way back when those posted. what I liked best about the 2017 1200GS was the ESA suspension and ability to lower it , cruise control, more responsive on road 19 inch front wheel for my type of riding. Overall the 1200GS is a well engineered integrated package that is near excellent for multiple types of riding as you mentioned. AT better off road, refreshingly simple electronics, lots of aftermarket accessories, significantly lower used prices, lower maintenance costs and likely more reliable. It would be nice to have multiple machines.
Excellent video. Balanced, articulate and honest. Thank you. I'm looking forward to your next one.
Mine was a heap of shit. Faults with servo braking system and the ignition cutting out. Bought mine brand new from a BMW main dealer in the UK. Owned it for 18 months and for 6 of those it was at the dealer having repairs. I was still recieving recall notices for the bike 2 years after selling it.
last was a k1200gt, and an inline 4 is not an easy ride around towns like San Fran, would love a gs, but hell they are costly, nice vid thanks
Nice review, great perspective. I’ve had about seven different “ADV” bikes, if you will, and think the BMW 1200GS is one of the smoothest of them all. The “farkles” are second to none. Haven’t ridden a 1250 yet, I know myself and don’t want to have another payment yet. Ha ha. I used to commute on my GS and do long distance unpaved on the GSA, I do typically take a different bike on more serious unpaved or trail but it’s a personal preference. I did have a couple ADV’s I was not comfortable off asphalt (I do have a heavy throttle wrist) but the BMW does give confidence in almost any situation. Thanks for the share. 👍🏼
Oh, and agree with the Tenere, it was in the garage for a short time. It was a very top heavy ADV, and tended to overheat easy. Didn’t buy an Africa Twin, went with the Tiger after the test rides.
Had a 14 GS I bought at dealer with 26k miles. Road for 2 years commuting 40 miles each way. In Indiana weather, So traded for an 18 r1200rt. Not the same ! The suspention is not the same at all. Wished I kept the GS. Sad !
I recently bought a GS 1250 my first GS I had another 2013 BMW that I rode for 29.000 miles. No lie after riding it for 100 miles I felt more confident and could ride it faster and safer than my old bike. The suspension and torque make this bike like a magic carpet. No matter what you own or what you think you want next, go ride one and I think you will know then that you would love a GS.
agree!
Thanks for the “to the point” reviews 👍
great review! regretting selling my 2018 GS..I guess I have to go for the 1250 now and try to convince my other side of the bed ;p ..which system do you use for your panniers? greetings from Belgium
Great review, what a great view from your deck !
R-1200GS 2006 K-25 117000 K and going strong I told the dealer ill trade it in when it hits 200K dont really care for the bells and whistles gimicks of the newer ones so a 2011 should make me happy
I agree with reviewer comments. I changed bikes every few years until my 2016 gsa: don’t want nothing else, nor going to.
The problems with final drives is directly to the splines and how they are vented. In the older bikes, there is a design flaw regarding the venting and how moisture is getting into the tube. Newer bikes are getting a new rubber valve that restricts water from getting in. The moisture will cause the splines to rust. So the real opinion is whether this has fixed the problem, or do you need to do your greasing of the splines more often. Given the amount of labor, I am going to do my own splines greasing more often and not taking any chances.
Just want to add that the Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere also uses a shaft drive
And the Triumph Explorer
BEST ever detailed review of the GS !
Your AT review was part of my research, I got one and love it. You've found a new love in your life and moved on. How long will be before the bike you are praising today is offloaded for pastures new? I say, wanting what you have can sometimes be better than constantly having what you want. We all know that our tastes change as we go through life. I not against the Broke-My-Wallet by the way!
Must say AT is a very good choice. Stay with that and enjoy nonproblematic riding.
I’ve had most adventure motorbikes, and everyone of significance currently in this class. For the last 10 years I’ve also owned the 1200gs and gsa’s and had the other bikes to try and find the second best adventure bike for my purposes. Ended up adding a r1200gs Rallye to my 2015 as the best second bike and moved on to sourcing the best third bike. Long story short, currently own three R1200gs bikes, each for different purposes and with different tires fitted, a R1200gs adventure 2015, a R1200gs Rally 2018 and a R1200gs Trophy (base spec with no extras) 2016. There really is no other bike that gives me that amazing “Welcome Home” feeling. I have honestly tried to like the other medium and large adventure bikes, but each had something that annoyed me to no end which the large gs bikes just don’t have. From adventure touring on the adventure, outback trails on the Rallye or commuting and city duty on the Trophy, I always feel comfortable and at home. It simply is what it is.
PS: the riding mode limitations are only in the US. In other countries you simply leave the plug in and you have access to all modes. Same thing with the indicators. Bit of a millennial nanny thing in my opinion.
What I say about this bike, and I own the 2018 GS Adventure (low suspension...I’m short), is that it’s one of those rare things in life you can find. In that I mean, that it’s not the best at anything, BUT IT IS...very, very good at every thing. Get one. Just friggin’ get one. That said, like all brands, BMW will have issues. Look up The Misendend Flyer’s repair on his rear monoshock. Criminal, BMW. I mean rrrrreally criminal to sneak that crap in. BMW really does stand for “Bring My Wallet”. And I still say get one.
I agree. I've had problems with both of my GS LCs but simply cannot find another bike that feels like it or does everything so well.
Great review, the best I've seen actually. Odd question, what is the width of the handle bars? I need to know it this will go through my back yard door. Thanks in advance
I think you are misunderstanding Enduro Pro and Dynamic Pro modes. The Pro modes simply give you the ability to CUSTOMIZE the settings. I have a 2018 GS and I just decided to install the plug and customize the two Pro modes to exactly match the standard Enduro and Dynamic settings. But you can, for example, set the Dynamic Pro throttle response to ROAD, if you want a softer throttle.
Dude, BMW’s with 100k miles have a ton of problems when they get over 50k mikes. Everything from The front headset bearing, front suspension, clutch slaves and many other problems are common. Maintenance costs are no joke either.
Subjective, of course, but if you can get past the look of the front end,I’m sure it’s a fine machine.The same can be said of alot of bikes in this genre.Great review, thank you.
Nice review. I love my 1250, as you know. Loved my 1200.
You are of the reason's I am riding one now. After seeing your ride the 1250 everywhere and that test ride also convinced me! It is an under-rated bike and does not deserve the "coffee shop only" stigma it sometimes gets.
Great owner review, for a bike I didn't "get" until now (I love the Adventure version, and the XR even more). Next time, how about adding some offroad and road riding video to prove your point?
I would love to but my channel is a side hobby for me, I work full time so my time to go film movies is limited right now.
Awesome bike - from Scotland 🏴
I like the review and I agree on every point. The 850 feels a lot heavier off road. The 1200 or the 1250 is much better drive in every respect.
I would like to learn more about the super ten
Super Tenere is amazing! Feels lighter than Africa Twin because of center of gravity. Super comfy on road, super capable (for it’s size) off road.
Really great video. Very informative. What do you think of the new black/yellow 40th anniversary GSA? I’m buying one on Monday, trading in my 2020 RS1250 that I wasn’t happy about for long tours. 10+ hours.
I want that bike.
@@BigRockMoto you like it better than the other color options this year? I’m worried I may get tired of it. I’ve polled some people and it’s like right down the middle. It’s a tough choice.
When I watch some of these reviews of ultra high tech modern bikes, I often wonder how I ever managed to travel all those thousands and thousands of miles on my old XTZ ten to twelve years ago with my crappy old saddle bags and rattly old top box!
You are doing it right and probably enjoying it more than the rest of us! I miss my old beat up KLR's .
I have a 1250 gsa and I love it, but I have to admit it’s way overpriced and the parts are ridiculously expensive
"The parts are ridiculously expensive"? Not on my planet (or ok, my country).
BMW parts and servicing is well close to the mean prices of same type motorcycles.
That some parts are too expensive for what they are (brand irrelevant), that yes definitely.
Also, after warranty expires, it is a pretty serviceable bike by any expert mechanic.
As for the bike itself being overpriced, I doubt it "spikes" much (or at all) the pricing of the category.
Thing is, that everybody gets it with everything but the kitchen sink. Extras do cost.
Also as it markets itself as the bike that everybody else is copying (which is not far from the truth), it would justify some price overhead (if there is one).
It’s expensive because it is worth it. It can stand to lose maybe 50 lbs. off-Roading is a struggle though not impossible
@@jtwu8931 true! Why is it expensive at all when comparing it to other bikes with lots of chrome. Guess good riding isn't that expensive at all when compared to riding with "style" :)
NULUSIOS I have a GSA too. There is some silly shit man, for example the special wrench required to open the oil filler caps.
Most shops will also charge more per hour for a European bike than a Japanese one.
John Docksey In Beamerland, if you have to ask for the price it’s not for you. It is way more expensive to fix and maintain than Japanese bikes in the US.
2017.5 R12GS Triple Black. Love it!
I have one of those older 800s (a 2010 F800ST) with the Rotax engine. It's not a GS, of course, but I still agree with you on many of the positive aspects, such as wind protection, comfort, drive maintenance (it has a belt drive), etc. I've only owned a Suzuki GSX650F before this one, and in those regards, it's much better.
However, I don't think reliability issues with BMWs are as uncommon as you mentioned. I'm not saying they're like Alfa Romeos, but there are quite a few bad design choices, both small and not-so-small, that make mine seem like a liability as it ages. The engines and probably the other important bits will probably last a long time, but it's the peripherals and controllers/actuators, etc. that cause all the trouble. Hopefully, they have since been rectified, although Ryan F9's recent review of the R1250GS suggests that they might have added some new Achilles-heels.
On the whole, I feel like that trade-off between comfort/features and reliability/maintainability between European and Japanese bikes is still as strong as ever, although that paint-flaking thing on the forks is unbelievably dumb (that too by Honda, of all brands).
Top review. Can vouch for it all as I own a 2013. I was sold as soon as I test rode one and experienced the low c of g. Easy to service and is almost the only bike you need. For me the seat is too soft. Suspension is awesome.