During Henerson's triple, my son and i were seen jumping up and down first row in bleachers over the RS BP, best game we ever went to and we went to so many each yr. I cried when Bruce Hurst left to SD
He had a great year in 1988 going 18-6, but this game (game 5) of the '86 WS has to be the pinnacle of Bruce Hurst's career. He was 2-0 in the series with a 1.96 ERA through 23 innings pitched. He would very likely have been named the series MVP had Boston won the series.
A great hitter, no doubt. However, a bit creepy otherwise. I’ll never forget seeing an interview with his children where they talk about how having him cryogenically entombed was something they all aspiredto as a family because their religion is scienc. In other words, according to scientism, there will be a sort of eschaton without God. That is, one day they will be resurrected through being unfrozen like a TV dinner and revivified like the creature in Frankenstein. It’s pretty clear that Ted Williams instilled these values which are about as disturbing and deluded as any I’ve ever encountered. Atheism makes persons into senseless buffoons.
A brilliant hitter, without a doubt. Still, as a person he leaves a lot be desired. I’ll never forget listening to his children after his death talk about the fact that they had Ted cryogenically entombed at his behest. They made it clear that his entire family aspired to that end and that science was, to use their terminology, “our religion.” In other words, they had a kind of secular eschatology whereby they would be resurrected, not by God but by scientists. That is, they planned to be unfrozen like a tv dinner and revivified like the creature in Frankenstein having found immortality. I found this unsettling to say the least. It was obvious that Ted had instilled these bizarre and deluded values in his children from a young age. I have a difficult time respecting atheists but that is a whole different level of idiocy.
I’ve seen Games 6 & 7 numerous times, but had never watched Game 5. It’s kind of surreal to see the games that are often forgotten in history and the memory of most fans… by the way, am I the only one who thinks Dwight Gooden looks like Denzel Washington?
That picture becomes less idyllic once you discover all the bizarre and creepy shit Ted Williams instilled in his children. A marvelous baseball player - a deeply disturbed human being.
All the major sports leagues are insufferable garbage nowadays. You couldn’t pay me to attend a game in any sport. Pro sports lost its soul, its spine and its joy.
@@MaximusWolfeyou are sadly on point. And it's not any of this "BACK IN MY DAY" crap either. The prices and corporate influence have ruined it. Hockey seems to be the least changed but it still lost its mojo years ago.
Particularly MLB and NBA. I miss the workhorse starters, this game matchup in particular Hurst Vs Gooden that’s marquee! With more reliance on the relievers it’s difficult to name more than one or two starting pitchers on most of the teams of today
Strawberry did not have a good game or a good series was not a factor. In fact he was removed in game 6 and did not hit in the middle of the lineup when New York had its remarkable comeback
Game 7. After the Sox put up two in the 8th to pull within one, Strawberry led off the Mets half of the 8th with a solo shot to get one of those runs back.
That is one perspective. Another might be blaming Boston's bad bullpen,; faulting Schiraldi for being ineffective (his W.S. era was 13.50), Stanley for the wild pitch that tied the game, and blaming Mcknamara for even keeping Buckner in at first late in the game instead of putting in Dave Stapleton as a defensive replacement, as he most often would have. Also fault Mcknamara for going with Al Nipper in Gm 4 instead of going back to his best in Clemens. Wilson was booking it down the line, too, so no guarantee Buckner would have gotten the out at first even if he had made the play. Granted the winning run would not have scored on that play had Buckner fielded the ball cleanly. Also, Game 6 was not the clincher for the Mets, there was a game 7, so it really didn't all come down to the Buckner error. The entire 86 playoffs are available on UA-cam for anyone interested in the full story. I personally find the "blame Buckner" narrative to be faulty, lazy, at best. Just my opinion.
@@mikedarrah6945 yep.. McNamara made quite a few poor decisions with not putting Stapleton out there being #1. After Mitchell's hit he should've either pulled Schiraldi right there or tell him to throw him breaking balls as Knight was vulnerable to them as was Kevin Bass with the Astros. Orosco didn't throw him one fastball in that at bat. I always thought McNamara was more concerned about his players feelings rather than the game whereas Johnson did what he felt was necessary to win.
Yeah, watching all these playoff games I was struck by how much lineup maneuvering Davey Johnson did throughout. He was not concerned about his players’ feelings, and his players were obviously mature about it. McNamara leaving Buckner in for the on-field celebration was the height of arrogance. And as you say, they had blown the victory before the fateful grounder… Buckner deserved better.
@@justinr5989 I was thinking-- if Buckner was so hobbled defensively this series, why wasn't he the DH at Fenway? I think you just gave me an answer...
I couldn’t believe that John McNamara didn’t pinch hit for Calvin Schiraldi in the 10th inning of Game 6. Also when Buckner got hit by that pitch Dave Stapleton should’ve come in to pinch run as Stapleton was always used as a defensive replacement for Buckner during late innings anyway. Funny thing is Buckner was once a speedster earlier in his career before he became hobbled by injuries.
During Henerson's triple, my son and i were seen jumping up and down first row in bleachers over the RS BP, best game we ever went to and we went to so many each yr. I cried when Bruce Hurst left to SD
Love the way Vin Scully did the translation on Strawberry and the ump on the call strike 3 that was great to hear that one
He had a great year in 1988 going 18-6, but this game (game 5) of the '86 WS has to be the pinnacle of Bruce Hurst's career. He was 2-0 in the series with a 1.96 ERA through 23 innings pitched. He would very likely have been named the series MVP had Boston won the series.
He was named the MVP of the series before Sox blew the lead in game 6
Bruce Hurst was a great pitcher for the Sox.
Ted Williams. Perhaps the greatest hitter of all time.
I think it’s definite. Wasn’t his OBP something like 482, as well? That’s insane!
There was no way Boston was gonna lose that night after Teddy Ballgame threw out the first pitch.
A great hitter, no doubt. However, a bit creepy otherwise. I’ll never forget seeing an interview with his children where they talk about how having him cryogenically entombed was something they all aspiredto as a family because their religion is scienc. In other words, according to scientism, there will be a sort of eschaton without God. That is, one day they will be resurrected through being unfrozen like a TV dinner and revivified like the creature in Frankenstein. It’s pretty clear that Ted Williams instilled these values which are about as disturbing and deluded as any I’ve ever encountered. Atheism makes persons into senseless buffoons.
A brilliant hitter, without a doubt. Still, as a person he leaves a lot be desired. I’ll never forget listening to his children after his death talk about the fact that they had Ted cryogenically entombed at his behest. They made it clear that his entire family aspired to that end and that science was, to use their terminology, “our religion.” In other words, they had a kind of secular eschatology whereby they would be resurrected, not by God but by scientists. That is, they planned to be unfrozen like a tv dinner and revivified like the creature in Frankenstein having found immortality. I found this unsettling to say the least. It was obvious that Ted had instilled these bizarre and deluded values in his children from a young age. I have a difficult time respecting atheists but that is a whole different level of idiocy.
@@MaximusWolfewhy don't you respect atheists?
I’ve seen Games 6 & 7 numerous times, but had never watched Game 5. It’s kind of surreal to see the games that are often forgotten in history and the memory of most fans… by the way, am I the only one who thinks Dwight Gooden looks like Denzel Washington?
"Daaaaaryyyyyyl" wow that aged well didn't it Boston fans.
I think the guy seating behind the home plate is young Dennis Drinkwater.
thank you thank you thank you
Last win for the '86 Red Sox
Man.. They were probably so excited headed to G6.
With Roger Clemens ready to pitch on 5 days rest and a 3-2 Series lead. They were tasting the champagne.
Young John Henry Williams seating with his dad Ted Williams.
That picture becomes less idyllic once you discover all the bizarre and creepy shit Ted Williams instilled in his children. A marvelous baseball player - a deeply disturbed human being.
once the mets tied the series 2 2 it was over for the red sox
Stapleton came in for Buckner in 9th--why not do that in Game 6?
please can you upload Tigers games from the 80s please! like you did a while back.
I second!
I third!!
Poor straw. They were really on his ass.
He who laughs last.
The Daryl taunts betray ugliness on the part of the Boston fans.
Boston Red Sox Fans Thought That This 1986 World Series Was In The Bag, After This Game 5 Victory!😂🤓😎
2 pm smoothie order onkine
Back when real fans went to Fenway. Now half the park is pretty girls in pink Red Sox hats just trying to add photos to their Instagram. Sucks.
All the major sports leagues are insufferable garbage nowadays. You couldn’t pay me to attend a game in any sport. Pro sports lost its soul, its spine and its joy.
@@MaximusWolfeyou are sadly on point. And it's not any of this "BACK IN MY DAY" crap either. The prices and corporate influence have ruined it. Hockey seems to be the least changed but it still lost its mojo years ago.
Particularly MLB and NBA. I miss the workhorse starters, this game matchup in particular Hurst Vs Gooden that’s marquee! With more reliance on the relievers it’s difficult to name more than one or two starting pitchers on most of the teams of today
No miracles in Boston, they were holding out for game 6 in NY.
Strawberry did not have a good game or a good series was not a factor. In fact he was removed in game 6 and did not hit in the middle of the lineup when New York had its remarkable comeback
Game 7. After the Sox put up two in the 8th to pull within one, Strawberry led off the Mets half of the 8th with a solo shot to get one of those runs back.
Daryl probably celebrated post game with a mountain of booger sugar through his “Straw”
OMG Billy Buck really can't run at all I guess they really needed that bat in the lineup so bad too bad he cost him the series in game 6
That is one perspective. Another might be blaming Boston's bad bullpen,; faulting Schiraldi for being ineffective (his W.S. era was 13.50), Stanley for the wild pitch that tied the game, and blaming Mcknamara for even keeping Buckner in at first late in the game instead of putting in Dave Stapleton as a defensive replacement, as he most often would have. Also fault Mcknamara for going with Al Nipper in Gm 4 instead of going back to his best in Clemens. Wilson was booking it down the line, too, so no guarantee Buckner would have gotten the out at first even if he had made the play. Granted the winning run would not have scored on that play had Buckner fielded the ball cleanly. Also, Game 6 was not the clincher for the Mets, there was a game 7, so it really didn't all come down to the Buckner error. The entire 86 playoffs are available on UA-cam for anyone interested in the full story. I personally find the "blame Buckner" narrative to be faulty, lazy, at best. Just my opinion.
@@mikedarrah6945 yep..
McNamara made quite a few poor decisions with not putting Stapleton out there being #1. After Mitchell's hit he should've either pulled Schiraldi right there or tell him to throw him breaking balls as Knight was vulnerable to them as was Kevin Bass with the Astros. Orosco didn't throw him one fastball in that at bat. I always thought McNamara was more concerned about his players feelings rather than the game whereas Johnson did what he felt was necessary to win.
Yeah, watching all these playoff games I was struck by how much lineup maneuvering Davey Johnson did throughout. He was not concerned about his players’ feelings, and his players were obviously mature about it. McNamara leaving Buckner in for the on-field celebration was the height of arrogance. And as you say, they had blown the victory before the fateful grounder… Buckner deserved better.
@@justinr5989 I was thinking-- if Buckner was so hobbled defensively this series, why wasn't he the DH at Fenway?
I think you just gave me an answer...
I couldn’t believe that John McNamara didn’t pinch hit for Calvin Schiraldi in the 10th inning of Game 6. Also when Buckner got hit by that pitch Dave Stapleton should’ve come in to pinch run as Stapleton was always used as a defensive replacement for Buckner during late innings anyway. Funny thing is Buckner was once a speedster earlier in his career before he became hobbled by injuries.
And The Mets Got Rid of Kevin Mitchell,He was a Bad influence on Doc And Strawberry Ha Ha