PAINT TALK: Water Mixable Oil Paint - Everything you need to know
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2020
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Hi, I am the son of two artists and began painting in my hometown of Richmond, Virginia before I could walk. I was a rare combination of artist and athlete so I moved to Los Angeles in 2008 to play football for USC. I left the team my sophomore year to focus on painting and filmmaking, applying the same focus and discipline from my football career to my art. I primarily work in oils, and spend most free days painting "en plein air" in my new home of Sarasota Florida.
This video literally changed my life. I was a fine arts major in college with studio focus yrs ago. I learned oil painting but then I got asthma and covid and.. I've been really really sick and I missed painting. I had no idea there was non toxic oil! Thank you sooo much for covering this!
Even tho you can use water instead of turpentine, water mixable oil paints are still toxic, some colors more than others.
@@JJ79_ Pigments with cadmium is still toxic. But only by ingestion, no fumes. Don't eat your paint like Van Gogh and you'll be fine.
@@JJ79_ they don't cause fumes like paint thinner, just don't eat the paint with toxic pigments.
I remember trying them about 30÷ years ago..when my aunt was allergic to oils for about 20 years...didnt love them..
@@marjoriejohnson6535 I think they have come a long way since, you should give the Artist line from Cobra a try :)
I absolutely love my water mixable oils. They're just so pliable. You want them to dry like acrylics? Use water. You want them to behave like regular oils? Use linseed oil. No more smelly solvents, no more toxic mediums.
This is the most underrated painting channel on youtube. I just found your channel yesterday and have been watching all your videos! keep up the great work Coach!!!
I have to say, having watched a lot of artists on YT, your statement is absolutely true...
You find this comment on EVERY channel the commentor is a big fan of. But WHY is it underrated? I think it's very well rated and appreciated.
I’m just a novice painter, started with acrylic and wanted to learn oil, so I’m no expert here but I wanted to recommend the W&N water mixable thinner. I use both the Holbein and W&N water mixable paints and thought I could just use water. As someone who was just learning this caused a great deal of frustration. I have found that the thinner works way better for me. I do have the W&N water mixable linseed oil too, but I haven’t used it yet. Clean up is great, I simply use warm soapy water (dish soap) with a silicone (?) make-up brush cleaner that suctions to the bottom of my sink. I do use inexpensive brushes and they don’t appear to be getting torn up, but I really don’t paint with oils very often. So happy I found your channel. It has been really helpful!! Thanks so much!
I know it is kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good site to watch newly released series online ?
@Roman Jaxx lately I have been using FlixZone. Just search on google for it =)
@Cayson Cooper Definitely, been watching on FlixZone for years myself :D
@Cayson Cooper Thank you, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) I appreciate it!
@Roman Jaxx Glad I could help xD
"I'm going to go now". Love the awkwardness of it.😅
“... because regular oil paints haven’t been changed ON THE MOLECULAR LEVEL”
I don’t know why but I laughed that too much lmao
Excellent content as always dude, keep this going on, really appreciate it! 👍🏻
I love water mixable oils! My favorite brand is Cobra. I get headaches from turperntine. I started using wmo 20 years ago. I have some really old ones and the paint still looks fine.
Do you use the cobra mediums. I saw on other videos it says not to mix it with water but sum say it's ok?
That's good to know. I'm just starting out using Cobra and Artisan paints.
I'm just moving to WMO and this video is a great introduction. I have health problems from years of studio chemical use and these paints have kept me going. Thank you for the awesome content!
As a watercolorist I’m very excited about this 😏
I love water mixable oils so much! Thanx for the demonstration.
WMO are standard oils with an additive. You can buy that same additive in medium form to make your own regular/favourite oils into WM oils.
It’s made by Schmincke and is called ‘Medium W’ - it works by mixing 2 parts oil to one part Medium W. There’s probably other mediums by other companies available now that do the same, but Schmincke was the first and the one I remember.
Thanks for that information Kyomii. I didn't know such a thing existed. I started painting after I retired from teaching(science and mathematics) and find itvery relaxing but I'm on a steep learning curve at the moment.
@@johncartwright4041 I’m only surprised you haven’t been hitting the kitchen lab cooking up your own😉
Really??? That would be awesome!
thank you!
As always, great and very helpful video! Thanks Chris 🙌🏻
Really helpful to get a better understanding of the difference between water-soluble paints and regular oil paints. Thank you.
I love watercolors and often wondered how oil painting works with all of the tools involved. I think i would want to try one of these
I have watched your videos before, and for the past few days have binge watched 😁! Yesterday I decided to try once again to oil paint, I used Winsor Newton water soluble and I textured the canvas with acrylic gel and glass beads. I used the techniques I learned from you and it worked! I painted with Cobalt blue, Magenta, Lemon yellow and white. It is a horse, my favorite subject! Thank you so much for sharing your skills young man! I appreciate it much! 😊🎶🖌️🎨
Wow this is helpful thanks - oils minus the fumes and all the extra products, sounds like a great idea
Dude, can’t wait for the Cage painting to be done because if you do prints I’m buying!!
Thank you so much.. I accidentally found your videos and found them eye opening. This helps a lot. Please keep going❤️
Oh. My. God. Your art is ASTOUNDING!! 🤩
They ARE oil paint. I found the best way is to use a wmo medium, and/or wmo thinner. Once you use regular linseed oil you can’t clean your brushes with just water. So I think it pays to go WMO all the way. Paint, medium, thinner etc.
Got my first set of water mixable oil paints (lukas berlin) today. Tried on my own and the behave like acrylic. I used not enough paint. Watched your video and then i worked like you showed it. Totally different experience compared to acrylic or watercolor.
I could also recommend the gamblin gel. Very easy to use.
I really needed this. Thank you very much!
I enjoyed this video: on the molecular level.
I am acrylic artist and fairly new to mixable oil paint.
I love Lucas brand and cobra. 😊
Thanks for this informative video 😊
Thank you! I have the Winsor/Newton’s wmo and this helped me understand them better. Now they’re not so intimidating lol
I’ve been using Cobra WMO. You can use water to thin the paint instead of mineral spirits according to the manufacturer (Royal Talens) in the Netherlands and in their videos . I started with Winsor & Newton but found they were student grade and had too little pigment and so switched to Cobra which has the same amount of pigment as their Rembrandt line. It is a nice buttery, creamy consistency.
Hello from Sarasota! Thanks for your help. Love your video.
have been following you for sometime and good to see you explain your painting knowledge 🤘gud luck abt your channel
Thank you for this helpful info👍
Thanks for the info and demo, it was helpful. 👍
No problem!
I just found out about this yesterday. This is great video.
Such a helpful video thank-you!
I just use water with the water soluble oil too! I have been for about 3 years now. So far I haven’t seen any archival problems with my finished paintings.
I receive Reeves water mixable oils as present for my birthday. Thank you for this video.
I just bought some Windsor & Newton water mixable oil paints for $2 at a yard sale, I knew nothing about them so thanks for filming and uploading this video!!!
Hi Coach, I've noticed that Water mixable oils work best on acrylic gesso. By contrast, oil primed surfaces can bead up if there is a lot of water in the paint. Seems like the slightly absorbant acrylic gesso allows better coverage in the first thin layers. Have you noticed this with thin washy layers?
You can use oil paint over acrylic gesso, but you can’t use water soluble paint over oil. I learned that the hard way.
You can use Linseed Oil. I am soo greatful that we can paint using oil paints without the toxicity. It is soo great!!
Amazing content, thanks 👍🏼
awesome, thanks, Im switching to water mixable oils for health reasons, will buy W&N! Happy New Year! Keep safe
Question: If these are available, why does anyone use traditional oils? Just habit? What they came up using? I'm curious. Thanks for the video, btw. I just started a large piece and moved to these paints as a better blending option as the acrylics were drying too fast to blend well. :)
Might because they’re more popular and easy to find!
I just like traditional oils and because of the massive amounts of mediums for oils that are established you can do crazy textural things, extend dry time or shorten it etc. You get a lot more leeway than just water I find even with the weird water soluble mediums that are out there it’s different. Plus most professional grade paints that are heavily pigmented and just plain nice they don’t make water soluble versions I’m pretty sure like Vasari etc.
@@AssistantLeaflet Do I detect a hint of superiority/snobbery here?
Most artists are amateurs, painting for personal enjoyment and your arguments are not appropriate to them.
@@philiptownsend4026 I’m just explaining why people still use traditional oil paints and mediums as you can do more with it. There’s also just less water soluble oil paints that exist and some traditional brands are just higher pigmented is all.
For me personally, I started painting with traditional oils in art school (and I’m sure most do bc they don’t know water soluble exists at first). And oil painting can be pretty expensive to get started so once I had all my colors, I didn’t want to reinvest in getting all my colors in the water version.
But now that I know I can use them together, I may start to slowly convert to water soluble as my older tubes run out.
So helpful thank you!
Great videos. I just purchased some of these paints last week. I don't like all of the cleanup involved in oil painting and the smell bothers me. I have allergies to stuff, so I thought I would try out these water soluble paints. I'm happy to hear they can be mixed with water.
I started painting once I retired at a local university. There, they used Winsor-Newton water soluble paints, so it is all I have ever known. I have also used the Lucas Berlin equivalent and had good results.
I found that if I did thin with water (before I knew better) the colors would have a dull look once they dried.
I use food grade walnut oil from the grocery store for my medium.
I quit regular oils after another bout with pneumonia. No need to risk my lungs around thinners.
Water soluble oil paint also comes off your clothes in the wash.
I use Windsor and Newton and Cobra.
If you use food grade walnut oil, use organic. Someone told my friend they used a cheap one and the painting rotted. I have never had problems using organic. Or use Windsor and Newton artist walnut oil or water mixable medium.
Thanks going to look into this myself!
@@underfire987 use organic, no additives. Someone claimed using food grade would cause paintings to rot but I have had no issues with it. If you want to be certain, you can buy specially made walnut oil medium at art stores.
Are they still water soluble if you use walnut oil? I thought you have to use one of the water soluble mediums?
@@BurntWeeny435 walnut oil is slow drying. It doesn't change the nature of the paint. walnut oil alkyd medium has a tiny bit of alkyd which speeds up the drying time but doesn't affect the water soluble aspect of the paint.
Love the nic cage collection
i use
cobra study set, i like them and are relatively cheap
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Thank you! Wonderful you make a video about this. I Wonder if it is ok to throu away paint and left overs in the usual trasch?
Seems like a decent plein air option, thanks!
I'm just starting out and really enjoying your channel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Do you know if the Gamsol Solvent Free gel actually water mixable/soluble or just solvent free? I know you can use non water mixable stuff with water mixable olls and they maintain their water mixable propreties until you combine too much.
Since I'm using water mixables for cleaning as well as toxicity - the challenges of living in a small NYC apartment the water solubility for cleaning makes a difference.
Thanks again!1!!!
Painting behind you now is complete :)
I just wanted to ask can we add linseed oil and gamblin solvent free gel for watermixable oil paint with water together at the same time or do we have to wait after each medium is added.
Great vid.
Hey! Great videos very informative! Question- What paper do you recommend for water based oils? A primed gesso, oil paper, or just regular old mixed media paper? Thank you!!
Hey Coach, There is a great product to add to this process.It allows you to add REGULAR oil paints and this medium which makes oil paint into water miscible.It can also be added to water to make a thinner. They also now have a gel medium that does the same thing.
So this allows you to not invest in another system but you can use all your favourite oil paints and change to water miscible if travelling or just want the convenience.It is Schmincke Medium W. I love this and the gel for regular oil paints. Love you channel 🇨🇦
Hello Jan, could you tell please, if I thin regular oil paint with Schmincke W, can I mix water-soluble mediums into that, instead of water?
Great tip, thank you!
That's great alternative as I too am allergic to oil paints and the solvents.
Nice shirt :) Want to buy same now :)))
And thank you so much for another video!
I use schmincke medium w and this converts traditional oils into water mixable oils and use it with all brands including Michael Harding oils I tend to use the gel version compared to the fluid oil version I don't know if you can get it in the USA
Wicked info coach. I use water soluble oil paint the like watercolors. I thin them with water and once the water dissipates, I am able to move the paint if I choose to.
Nice video!
Hi Chris Thanks a lot .I got a set of some basic water mixable oils which I haven't used for some time and I believe now I can do my underpainting with them and when dry ,paint over with oils. Am I right?
would it be ok to do an under painting with the water mixable oils? what are the drying times like for them? sorry if you already answered these questions in the video :/
I have painted in acrylic for quite awhile, thought I would venture into WS Oils was wondering about the drying time before varnishing to sell my work. Thank you for your tutorials. Regards Jan
It takes about 7 days for my water soluble oil paintings to completely dry. I don't usually paint using thick layers of paint, a week or two should be plenty of time to wait before the final varnish.
For practicing or study purposes, will using the water soluble oil on a paper cause water-based warping?
Hello! Just found your channel and loved the great information. I just bought a set of water mixable oils for the reason that drying time is too quick with acrylics for what I want to achieve. How long is the drying time with these? Thanks!
Need some help here. I just switched to water m oils . Now I know we can paint oils on an acrylic primed canvas but my question is should I apply water or linseed oil to the dried canvas before starting actually to paint? ?? Thank you!
Question: I am stuck with 2 tubs of coconut oil which is semi solid. Can I use that to thin wmo?
Do you like to use Alkyd medium? Is it an easier medium to transition for painters used to acrylics?
Hi what is the best paper to use . thank you
To do a large painting on canvas can I use acrylics for the first stage, then complete the painting with water soluble oil paint on top of the acrylic?
I don’t know if this is a dumb question, but do oils and acrylics mix differently? I just got the 3 color set of cobra oil paint and it has yellow ochre/pyrrole red/ultramarine blue. I am struggling to mix basic colors as I typically work with lemon yellow/magenta/pthalo blue in acrylics. I simply cannot go back to acrylics because oils are so so so much better to work with (for me).
Does anyone have any advice for the yellow ochre/pyrrole red/ultramarine blue mixing techniques? Or should I just buy the colors I am used to mixing? Any guidance is much appreciated 🙏
Thank you, does it dry like other oil paint or faster?
Hello!! I recently did the switch from regular oil paints to water based due to a smaller living space and I can barely tell the difference between them experience-wise!
I do have a question that has been bugging me that I hope someone can answer:
Once traditional oil paints dry, they can be reactivated by using turpentine - will water based oil paints be reactivated with water once dried? Is there any other way to be able to reactivate the paint? Thanks a lot in advance!
Can I please know if water mixable oils smell ? Cuz I live in a tiny apartment with no windows and I couldn’t handle regular oils
I would love to know how the Daniel Smith water soluble oil paints hold up compared to the Holbein’s paints or the other ones.
I live near Seattle and love DS’s watercolors. I heard some people love the water soluble oil paints too, but I couldn’t find any comparison videos.
Great video, thank you!!!😃
Great video. Personally, I prefer Daler Rowney Georgian Water mixable oils and Jackson's own brand Aqua Oils over the Artisan. Yet, found that Artisan Thinner is way better than water to thin paints.
I use Artisan thinner with Artisan Water Mixable Oils. I now use eye-dropper to determine how much thinner I am using.
Is the Gamblin solvent free gel cleanable with water like the water mixable mediums?
H20s are fantastic - so much better than they were when they were first introduced. I'll never go back.
Do u have to use a medium or can u work solely With water
What can you do to finish a portrait in water soluble oils? Can you oil out?
DAmn I was hoping for some clarification regarding the finish of the paintings. Does one oil out the painting same as with "normal oil colors"? The get even shine? And does one use varnish also and wich one? Can you use the standard varnish oder do you need special varnish for water mixable oil paint?
Can you use water base oil in a airbrush??
Just to be clear. I can finish very old oil paintings with water based oil paint?
Hey Chris, question: when using these paints, do you still recommend using the brush dip after cleaning? Or would it not be necessary, since it seems the brushes can be rinsed in water? Thanks in advance! Love your channel!
I use warm soapy water, (dish soap) for clean up, but I also use inexpensive synthetic brushes. So maybe you would need to make that decision based upon the care of your brushes? Mine seem to be okay.
I would recommend using the brush dip just incase you didn't get all the paint out with the water
@@paintcoach will do--thanks coach!
Which varnish should be used on such water mixable oil paint? Help reply
This was a really good video. So...is there a downside to using the water mixable? Or is it just personal preference? I bought some and am hesitating to use it but i dont know why. I don't have any sensitivities to using regular oil or solvents I kinda like the smell of gamsol....hahaha
Chris, thank you for the video. I tried oils and the smell was too much for me. Can you offer a comparison of the smell of the water soluble oil to regular oils?...Like, no smell to mild. Does the Gamblin product you demonstrate have any smell too? I use Liquitex acrylics and mediums and I don't smell them. Turpentine gives me headaches. Thank you very much.
How do you save h2o water based oil paint. Regular oil will freeze well.H2O got all crunchy and not useable . Thanks
Can I know how to varnish oil painting done with water mixable oils.
Hi Chris.
fat over lean, thin to thick concept question.
1. solvent/thinner>> paint >> linseed oil (fattest) or,
2. solvent/thinner >>little linseed oil>>paint (thickest.
what is the practical application of this? If paint is the thickest, pure paint would applied last. If the fattest is applied last, that would be paint + linseed oil?
I would think the solvent free gel would stand in for the Turpentine. There is water mixable oils : linseed, safflower etc. Thanks for the video!
Nice 👍
Hi Chris,Is it ok to enroll your foundations of oil paint class with water mixable oil? Altho i want to try traditional oil paints,i have limited space and set backs.Thats why.
Nick Cage in all his expressive glory was a tad distracting, but great video and thanks for the demo!
⁉️❓❓❓Can you paint acrylic over water mixable oil paint? I have an old painting that I never finished that it was with this type of oil paint. I’d like and preferred to paint over it with acrylic and finish the painting. I have used an acrylic varnish over the entire painting as an acrylic surface.. is this possible?
I can’t seem to find the “ links” you offered in this video
can you mix them with acrylic?
Do you use varnish on them?
Daler-Rowney Georgian Watermixable oil is good
Holbein - 16th Century German artist! Maybe an art history book for your birthday! 😉
How do I varnish water mixable painting ga