Halfway through this video my heart started to break 💔. You are man that every man should aspire to be. The “not my problem” thing is scary especially when you get punished for helping people in distress
That's well put. If walking through one event is a pass, it almost should have been for every one. The meeting with mj, the theater one especially should of been an instant pass for anyone walking out directly if your the only person that matters. Why their worried about the rude goons is beyond my comprehension.
There's a mob attack on a bus ride, they ask you to close your eyes and then punch you with your eyes closed and then you fight a man covered in poop and also man drops on your head out of the ceiling. This is basically a third-world prison camp and then they toss in a movie theater and a job interview and expect you to act normal. It made for fantastic entertainment but it isn't really self-defense lol.
You are completly right in saying Jeff made it up along the way. Its was badly planed and sometimes even unsafe as well. Seth for example said that the guy on the bus ambush went way to hard throwing full force punches. Jeff said he thought it was always fight the opponent in the attacking drill. The rules changed between the compatitors. Jeff is really a bad instructor if he acts this way behind other peoples back. He changed his mind multiple times during the show and its even on camera. Hope they do a better job planning and explaining the rules in season two. Otherwise it will be the same mess
Yeah! So I wasn't the only one who saw this (making up things on the spot)! Simply from the already Edited footage, I found it to be painfully obvious, with Rokas even mentioning that the Rules were altered at least once (I believe it's more than once, but won't claim it as I don't remember well enough). To then go and publicly claim that the Scenarios and Rules were all well thought out is mind boggling...
To be honest I don't even care much about him being a "bad instructor", this is a difficult tournament to run where it's hard to come with an objective ruleset and mistakes will be made since it's new. The problem is him disrespecting Ramsey over the internet afterwards rather than attempting to address the problems, that puts his integrity into question and makes me think there's probably someone better to run the tournament.
The HR Kobayashi Maru was - by far - the most interesting and valuable event. Even if you don’t touch her as you exit, she only has to say you did. The corporate world at its best. It appeared that everybody had the same total lack of preparedness for each unique event. Points didn’t matter in my living room with my kids. The group exploring ideas was great. The extra physicality less so. No need for ceiling zombies.
LARP is about right. Watching the USDC videos, I couldn't stop thinking how much this "competition" ran by supposed professionals reminded me of playing Dungeon and Dragons in high school with that one DM who has a big ego and is really bad (and arbitrary) at applying rules, and sometimes simply has different rules for the players and the NPCs.
@@RamseyDewey Come on, every tabletop RPG nerd knows LARPers are the lowest of the low! :P No, I get that you weren't trying to bash roleplaying scenarios or LARPing, my point (I think? I have a tendency to ramble) was that even if it is role playing, the rules are not clear or consistent. Which isn't that big of a deal if people in homemade costumes are throwing bean bags at each other at a campsite, but pretty damn important in a competition where people can (and do) get hurt.
honestly would be more entertaining to see a group of martials arts and self defense youtubers take part in a large scale medieval reenactment battle with pvc/foam weapons
I work in a public library where we fairly regularly have mentally ill patrons. I cannot say “not my problem!” to the guy foaming at the mouth and harassing families with their children. Being proactive is necessary in many places in life. From a moral standpoint, if not a safety one. Great video as always Ramsey.
Sorry you had a bad time at the Ultimate Self-Defense LARP Camp. But self defense isn't about defending yourself or others from harm. It's about keeping poop off of your hands and reflexively repelling women that try to speak to you. Everyone in the "self-defense" world knows that.
I've been watching you on and off for a couple years and only recently subscribed. I've also (somehow) learned today that you also share my faith. It's awesome to find someone in the martial arts space that's also a fellow member. Stay strong and rock on.
One counterargument for the poop man scenario is that the first step of any first aid program is always to get yourself in a safe situation first, and then help. This is because if you get injured, paramedics now need to spread their time and attention and tend to you as well. Also, you cannot help if you are incapacitated yourself. So in the scenario as presented, running away is wrong, but running away to get help is probably the correct response.
I couldn’t physically run. The ligaments in my knee had been torn the previous day. Even if I could run, there wasn’t enough space to fit between the poop man, let alone without risking getting stabbed on the way. Remember, a large man was blocking the exit. Jeff squeezed by (barely) because he’s half my size. The only course of action resulting in safety was to incapacitate poop man.
When I think about the event, my first thought is the boss lady. In 2007 my manager was a woman more than three decades my senior that groped me (I am a man) even knowing that I had a girlfriend. I believed then, as I do now, that reporting the incident would have meant my dismissal and not hers. I had to navigate the incidents very carefully so that she felt comfortable with the criticism (she was rather mentally unstable) but not move it up the chain of command. Allowing the behavior to continue would have exacerbated her already unhealthy view of me as a sex object and may have dominoed into more complex incidents. It was very stressful, and I rather resent the solution being to simply walk out of the job and hope I can find a new one before rent is due. I work in medicine and the accusations she could have made against me (which would have been believed) would have stripped me of my license and I would have become a custodian overnight.
Every other guy that got in the interview room was subject to the fake accusation even if they did not touch her. Hypothetically, this character could claim that she was abused even days after the event, to the same effect, because the only evidence is their telling.
You always, always, always come off as a legit and humble dude. Sorry to hear you getting the crap from 'friends.' But I guess we've all been there, haven't we?
Spot on about blood borne illnesses. Self defense instructors lack the same basic OSHA training that any tradesman would get on a job site, that is staggering to me.
I worked for many years as a custodian at sports complex with a pool, gyms, etc. cleaning up blood and poop was a regular event. I went through OSHA training so many times.
Sadly that's the message a lot of people and places tell "do not get involved". In my country I enlisted in the equivalent to the National Guard to be able to assist to the University and serve, because I couldn't enter in the regular Army or Military Academy for some issues with my family. But during our training in the Crisis Response Unit we learned a lot but not at the level of proper paramedic. During our instruction they were very clear, if you are not wearing your uniform be wary to give medical attention in street you could get in trouble specially if you don't have verbal consent of the victim. So that means if someone is having a heart attack or suffocating I can't help, "you can help but at your own risk" and it's something contradictory. Just because the person can't ask for help you should let them die? Makes sense from the legal perspective but not from the moral.
Not trying to help is the right idea - that's madness. Utter madness. The first thing an animal does after birth is generally the most important thing they do. What does a baby do? Cry. A universal sign for "I need help please". And these "Self defence" practitioners genuinely believe you shouldn't help someone if it might endanger you, even if their situation is worse? That goes against the most basic principles of being human. As a classicist and archaeologist, I feel the need to make the argument of historical prcedent. Margaret Mead once said the first sign of civility was "a healed femur." When Gilgamesh goes on his great journey, he is praised for those he helps, and for his realisation in the end that to look after his people comes before looking after himself. The worlds oldest story is about caring about your fellow man, even if you see them as beneath you. What kind of moron genuinely believes you should fear your fellow man.
I mean, if you're going into a performance review where you're being told that your performance is beyond bad off the bat you should probably insist on having a union rep present. Like really in that scenario the winning move would have been to call in the union.
I was disappointed by this show. Not because I had any expectations for it but because I was hoping for more videos of the six of you interacting and sharing ideas.
Honestly, I feel the same way. There was very little time outside of the competition events to do much of that. It was a very strange way to get to know people.
As someone who works in mental health, the “poop” scenario is effectively what would you do as a nurse or a healthcare assistant in a hospital setting. We deal with poop etc every day. While you try and put on ppe if available, you have a duty of care to those you care for, and sometimes that means you get poo on you. You make sure any broken skin is covered before you step foot on the ward, you wash any areas affected immediately, you pull an alarm if necessary for help… you do not run away and leave others in danger, unless you are at risk of severe injury (yes, we also get minor injuries on a weekly basis, it’s part of the job). Getting a bit of poo on you is not a valid reason to run away in this situation. On a side note if the dude talking about the Book of Mormon… I’m an atheist, I’m happy to engage someone in a good faith debate about the merits of my belief and that of others, if the other person wants to, it’s not for me or anyone else to try to impose my philosophy on you, or to ridicule the beliefs of others. Poor show on their part.
I did not finish watching the self defense competition. From my point of view it seemed like a bunch of random scenario-based combat games, and that it would have been a lot of fun to participate in regardless of any competition factor. I guess that the main problem is a conflict in expectation-what happened (except you getting injured) would have been fine if the expectation of it being a non-serious event had been communicated, but was incompatible with the communicated expectation of a “real” competition. I’ve seen a lot of your review videos from it, and I’m sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience with it, that you got the short end of the stick, etc. If it had been understood from the start what the level of seriousness was, would you still have wanted to participate, and would you have perhaps approached it differently? Do you think that under those circumstances you could have enjoyed it more?
I only leave long comments on this channel, because Ramsey makes thoughtful and memorable videos. Now to make comment much longer. I liked the 'Poop man vs Blood man' and 'Evil Girl Boss' challenges because they are the kind of unforeseeable weird self defense situations where physical action is not the answer. In the Poop man vs Blood man scenario helping is the right thing to do as a person, as a man, as a Christian and also morally. But the most basic thing in self defense is to always protect yourself. In my opinion the scenario was incorrectly set up. Right thing would have been to have a call Emergency Services (911 or the number in your country) option, and rate the fictitious phone call. In real life you're not Superman, you're not invulnerable, in these kind of scenarios call or professional help! From the footage I saw and what I remember from it. Evil Girl Boss (the character) said you touched her, if she is someone who molests people, she is also someone who is not above lying. If I remember correctly she said that every time she touched or got touched by someone. But I don't know what happened after the scenario was over and if she (the actress) still claimed that being out of character when discussing the scenario.
When I saw the video and wrote the comment it was well after midnight in my part of the world, I would like to correct my self. When I got preachy about calling Emergency Services, I phrased it incorrectly. It was not a dig at Ramsey Dewey. By ‘you’ I meant second person plural referring to everyone who read my comment.
@@andrehernadi5930 Funny. It seems that the comment you've replied to has been deleted, but when I was reading you, at no point ever did I find that you were talking about anyone in particular... It's pretty clear. I find it so painful, and sad, that nowadays it's become almost impossible to share your thoughts positively without someone coming and making all kinds of wild accusations, personal attacks, etc., from either grossly misunderstanding what you wrote, twisting your words past any form of recognition and common sense, and making weird assumptions about what you meant when you write a simple, clear and short message... I have come to abstain from commenting almost all the time because I don't want to receive backlash and negativity, as I already have to deal with this kind of people on a daily basis and it's incredibly stressful. However, I won't stop myself from leaving a comment, constructive feedback on Ramsey's Channel, because he really deserves it and if I shut up completely, I'm letting Trolls & people of bad faith win.
I'm sure in their minds they thought they were being transparent and fair. Tbh, there's a comedic aspect to the whole fiasco. If someone wants to talk crazy on the Internet, that sounds like someone wants to fight. Social media is cancer.
The truth is that coworkers and managers are never your friends. That’s one of the biggest mistake some people will make is to be best friends with co-workers and managers.. I made that mistake when worked in the kitchen for 6 years, all of them betrayed me and stabbed me in the back.
There is no way to score self-defense skills objectively, there is no ruleset that would make sense in a broad selection of self defense scenarios. I understood Rokas USDC more like a thought-provoking event involving martial artists than as a competition - some scenarios can make you question what is actual "self"-"defense" if analyzed with care. I took the final scoreboard as a silly gag, not really a big deal. You were right about poop man, but if you say people's competition is stupid they are going to be angry 😅
This USDC scoring system seems completely wonky. I could understand perhaps knocking off a couple points for not keeping both individuals in front of you in most situations, because third party encounters are weird given that you don't usually know who the bad guy is, butyour actions seemed the most logical for this scenario. As a fellow Christian of a different sect granted, I agree that I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I left someone to die when I could've done something about it. The second scenario. I feel like that whole lead up to the actual situation was handled poorly. Obviously, we should always be ready for something wild to happen, but I've never once walked into my bosses office thinking I was about to get into a fight.
How do you sue someone internationally? Over here in Florida, we'd be screaming about suing within the first couple of days; and we're from the part of USA with the wild people that munch bathsalts and bite alligators.
I watched the usdc-video as a total outsider to the ma-yt-community, and though i liked a lot of the stuff - the mental-patient challenge was when I realized something was off. My MA-journey was dominated by 15 years of judo and that did a few things to my perspective on self-defense. It was very good for me to gear that your perspective seems to match very closely to mine and that my gut-feeling about the show was kinda correct.
In defense of hypothetical scoring it allows for more mistakes to be seen. If they just used your first mistake it would have shown less and been harder to keep the rounds consistent
@@RamseyDeweyIDK RD you just made content on how you are unfairly treated and portrayed... IDK the details... I can just see your need to emote over it still is a sign of stress...
very cool video, it was very informative Ramsay and i thought the bit about the good samaritan was really inspiring. Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed watching the whole thing, sucks that thing came out the way they did and people are so fragile to valid critisism. There is nothing wrong with admiting they fucked up with the production and scoring as well as informing everyone how things were actually gonna go down. But people got fragile egos or are afraid of backlash for admiting guilt. So yeah, im still probably gonna watch season 2 but im hoping that they learn from their mistakes and keep being so weird about it and attacking you. Like even as a first time viewer of the whole thing as it was coming out, its not that hard to notice that the rules seemed all over the place let alone that some of the scoring was odd like you pointed out multiple times in the series.
Yeah, this whole thing feels like the orginisers had something to prove with all these "got ya" scenarios. Just feels petty at times especially with how the scores were arbitary but treated as objective truths based of a pre-existing rule set. The overall feel was that everyone should be paranoid and completely hyper reactional to everything and that the only way to be truly "safe". Sucks about the harrasment you've been recieving guess its true you only see how people truly are when you aren't around.
Youre irresistible, she just had to throw herself at you... Also shame there wasnt a GG Allen inspired blood & poop man... Maybe next time! God bless you and yours brother!
@@RamseyDewey it was much simpler (lazy) to ignore the individual limitations and abilities of each contestant. It means that you were judged incorrectly but the alternatives would have been complicated and required thought and planning
I guess the first iteration of something is always bound to have issues. Hope USDC 2 goes a lot better. It's interesting to see the reality-show style of USDC and then hear about what actually happened and what wasn't shown. I would care more that it was an interesting, ambitious collab of UA-cam martial artists and less about points and who "won."
I definitely get where youre coming from in terms of standing up and helping out when needed. I also get the be cautious because even though this man got stabbed and injured, you dont know if hes on any kind of narcotics and is a threat to you as well. Granted its not often but its never 0% chance either. However, to say you failed it was rediculous when I first saw it. Knock points, sure I guess, but outright fail? Yeah thats a bit much. I get the what Phillips may have been trying to say, but it was articulated poorly. On the office scenario. When MJ grabbed you and shouted "HE TOUCHED ME" I always thought they had counted it as she had touched you and docked you points for letting it get to that point and not trying to leave sooner. Thats how I interpreted it anyway as I knew everyones scenario more than likely had stuff cut from it so I didnt know how long each one actually lasted or what all was done. It sucks Im just now finding your videos on these because it has soured a bit of my enjoyment of USDC but it absolutely needed to be said and done, and has given me better ideas for imrpovement of running scenarios in the future. Just really hope they learned for Season 2 as I had very high hopes for it. But with what you said in regards to Jeff Phillips reactions to your critiques, Im less optimistic .
You're 100% right, Ramsey. I am planning to coach in the "self defense industry" myself. And the idea of making a self defense competition can never be taken seriously. EVERY situation is unique. There can never be two dangerous situations which are the same. I still enjoy the videos though and I want them to succeed. Why? Because it looks fun! To me this is clearly entertainment like that Gladiators show. The pretending it's serious is part of the entertainment. Just my two cents ❤️ P.S. they did over exert all of you though and their safety precautions are ABYSMAL!!! I commented it number of times in the original videos too... Their response was very defensive and dismissive 😞
As a person without faith--but still a decent human--I'm with you on the poop man blood man situation. As a spectator, the competition looked like a lot of fun and I wish I could try something like it. There definitely were a lot of issues and ambiguity even from the outside looking in. There were also a lot of situations where I felt like things were needlessly dangerous, like when people sparred on a third floor(?) catwalk for some reason??? The scenarios that required role playing and acting felt very hamfisted to me. Like, why did you end up in a locker room with a guy who has been nearly stabbed to death by a man who has also had time to cover himself in poo and they've been rambling and you've only just woke up and become able to act? The girl boss encounter is, like, a conversation worth having but I don't think it belongs in "the ultimate self defense challenge." I hate the term virtue signaling, but as a viewer it really felt like the competition was trying to impress me more than it was trying to start a conversation. What are you defending yourself from? False accusations and liability?
What makes you think you are without faith? I have faith in many things and I bet you also do. Did you mean to say that you are a person who isn't religious, or who thinks that all gods are fictional? If so, that is very different to being "without faith". I hope this doesn't offend you but I wanted to make the comment because a person calling themselves "without faith" is not a matter to be taken lightly.
@@CarlySB it sounds like you understood the gist of what I was trying to say. I don't care much for the terms atheist or agnostic due to their baggage. I was raised Roman Catholic, and despite not believing that God exists, I do agree with a lot of the values I learned there. In fact, the main reason I was alienated from that community was because I didn't understand why so many people taught these intuitively good values but didn't practice them. I get why you think that statement is very serious, but it sounds like it means different things to us. I'm not offended, I was just trying to be succinct. Something I make a point to say to people a lot is "I trust you." That probably indicates a lot more "faith" in humanity than a lot of people seem to have.
Who knew self defense means being a terrible human who doesn’t help others?? Very skewed and hypocritical take on it, they mentioned in some scenarios running isn’t an option because you can have family with you, but it’s all about yourself in a poopoo situation?
I agree with you brother. I watched your video about that, and you gave your opinion from your perspective, and I don't like when people act like like they have right to censure other people opinion if they don't like it. Then you are just nothing else than a bully...
after the zombie episode, the part of the series i was waiting for : i disagree with the judge about the shower scenario, first no one got hurt, so it should have counted as point. MJ was still the MVP of this episode, i almost had a crush on her and wanted her to break me like a kitkat bar... wait did i said that aloud ? edit :
Its amazing what you can still do with reduced vision. My dad lost an eye in a car accident in his mid 20's and expected the DVLA (I live in the UK: thats Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) to take him off the road. But they allowed him to keep driving. He is in his 60's now and hes still flying around the roads like a madman. He talked about how losing his eye actually made him better at driving. Because it turned his vision from 3D to 2D and it made him able to judge gaps between spaces better, apparently.
I think the whole "competition" was meant to be fun. Look at it as a pilot, it's still not refined, but the overall concept of the show is there. I guess you don't get along with Rokas anymore?
@RamseyDewey that's unfortunate about your knee. I hope you get well enough at least to be able to continue training. Honestly, some of those events seemed unsafe to me. At the end of the day, it is just a game, so safety should have been the number one concern.
Well both you and Rokas got marked down for engaging the two people. What puzzled me is why you and Rokas seemed to be the most clueless in scenario 3. I thought the married guys would be the most aware.
Yeah, I would definitely say billing the competition as a series of "Self-Defense" challenges was a bad move. It would have been better if it were advertised as a bunch of fighting-related challenges (fighting multiple people at once, fighting multiple waves of people, fighting in different environments, etc.). If they wanted it to be a self-defense competition, it should have been entirely made up of specific self-defense scenarios, and it should have been scored based on some kind of coherent system: I would suggest scoring it based on legality.
@RamseyDewey I think using your fighting skills to overcome challenges counts as "fighting-related". Plus, this alternative universe version wouldn't have included the office sexual harassment, poop man, and weird movie theater blind date nonsense.
after watching self-defense championship, i know longer maake eye contact with women and if a woman enters the room i immediately ask to go to the bathroom. you never know what will happen when a woman is around and its better to be safe than sorry.
That is the problem when we all have different values. Doing something of value can be considered a deteriment to others. Running away allowing a man to walk around with a knife and potentially kill other people is not self defence. I didn't know you had sight issues. They should have tried to find a way to account for it, but they don't have the experience for that.
What is self defence? Well its whatever Jeff decides it is on the day. Its not surprising how it all turned out given his history. Every scenario that was 50/50 was vs another contestant and every scenario where you are disadvantaged he has his guys beat you up to try and tell you that you're all wrong and his methods are right. I'm sure S2 will be more of the same communication issues and things being explained one way and done another and scored randomly. I'm waiting for the "apology" comment from Jeff here any second to try and save face and I'd bet good money it'll contain ZERO responsibility as usual. Sucks for your experience but at least Australia was good right?
Watching Season 1, as it progressed, the more and more I felt like I was watching a Subliminal Ad for Jeff's Self-defense Services... And not in a good way. It's sad, because from everything that I was able to gather, Rokas went in with the best of intentions, but got carried away (I'm not saying that this absolves him of responsibility, far from it), and this Event had so much potential!
This is kind of when the show went off the rails for me personally. The premise of the scenario is silly. Not to nitpick it too much, but there was clearly a point where Jeff would have gotten stabbed in the back if the guy actually meant to harm him. And I really dislike the idea that self-preservation is the end all to be all in every scenario. I feel like a big part of training to fight is not just about being able to protect yourself but also being able to protect others. If you see a bad situation and you think you can help while still being relatively safe, then you have a moral obligation to do such. Honestly, USDC came off as kind of an advertisement to me after it was all said and done. It wasn't the fun and relatively lighthearted competition I was expecting given the cast, and seemed more about showing how 'hardcore' the drills could be (which would explain a lot of why there was so much flak afterwards). The competition should have been the backdrop while you guys were the story. I also got the impression that they had a really loose idea of what the show was supposed to be and just kind of ran with it. It also seemed like they went out of their way to make you guys fail sometimes, or even just tried to beat the crap out of you. And then the one goof off segment resulted in someone being seriously injured. lol. It wasn't so bad that I am avoiding season 2, but if it's going to be more of the same general attitude, I'll probably bounce.
Calling it a “self-defense championship” doesn’t mean it actually has anything to do with self defense. Using your words will solve far more problems than violence ever will.
I actually thought it was a foam covered stick because it was stiffer than a pool noodle. But Phillips’ reaction is over the top over a tired man’s interpretation
Perhaps telling Evil Girl Boss that your gay and so it wouldn't work would defuse the situation and make her loose interest and let you keep your job. The down side is that I guess you would have to keep up the pretence in the workplace for a while.
The whole thing was ridiculous. It was a strange setup. I didn't enjoy it as much as I was hoping to. I made a comment about my thoughts afterwords concerning the way they graded you guys. I mentioned how ridiculous it was that they docked you points for saving the mentally ill, yet also docked you points for not trying to save the sexually abusive thugs that just touched your supposed girlfriend, because in today's society that makes alot of sense somehow?
As I understand it Jesus did not get into defining the word neighbor. He asked who proved to be a neighbor. The religious leader said the one who showed mercy. Jesus said do likewise. Jesus did not engage in a semantic game which could be an endless rabbit hole.
"Self-defense" is the problematic phrase here, maybe. It implies only thinking of one's own livelihood, ignoring others. A good person who does the right thing in defending others is often putting themselves into harm's way, like a firefighter. You're a good person, not someone who practices self-defense. This championship seems a bad fit for you. And even if you won, it would be a shame, not an honor.
I vet it's frustrating but think it's fair for them to penalize you for the poopman scenario because the idea is to protect yourself and you put yourself in harms way by engaging. The best thing to do in that situation is to call the cops from your stall and wait it out. Then they can engage and help them while you keep yourself safe. That being said I can respect wanting to help them and choosing to put yourself in harms way to help knowing there could be consequences but it isn't self defense anymore even if it's under the legal definition.
I actually disagree. A lot of mental health crisis could be de-escalated via engagement like Rokas. Calling for police, at least in my country, sadly, too often ends up in the shooting of the person going through the mental health crisis, since the cops here get very little training in recognizing the signs of mental health issues and de-escalation.
That's a completely different scenario that you have proposed. And that "idea" was never presented to us as the objective, let alone the one "correct" objective. There was no stall, there was no phone to call anyone. There was an exit being blocked by a man with a weapon, slowly moving toward me, and another man bleeding out in need of emergency medical aid. I had torn ligaments in my knee from the previous day and could not run. There was no choice but to engage. Humans cannot magically phase through solid objects. I was already in harms way. There was no way around that.
I’ve been training in Sydney for over 15 years and have never heard of this ‘Western Combatives’ place. With all the top-tier facilities, gyms and fighters we have here, it seems odd that this place full of non-combat athletes (and seemingly terrible safety protocols) was chosen. I’m embarrassed watching this. Sorry you had to go through it Ramsey. Wishing you the best.
I’m really sad to see the behaviour from Jeff and his crew I used to go to western combatives I expected a lot more from them but instead of taking your criticisms and improving they just decided to attack you over the internet
I didn’t offer criticisms to him. That’s not even what he was reacting to. Jeff got mad because (1) he thought calling a foam covered stick a pool noodle was insulting to him somehow, and (2) he completely misinterpreted what I said about my experiences. It was a personal narrative about me he was reacting to, not a criticism of him.
I feel like it went from incompetence to negligence maybe even malice. I haven't followed either Rokas or the other dude, but they should acknowledge the mistakes they made. As for scoring since it the rules and objectives were nonexistent I'd be fine if they gave more points dependent on how the situation played out, like you could've gotten more points because your "girlfriend" in theater was more aggressive.
What does an australian even know about self defense? They live in an ethnically homogeneous society with very little crime or weapons on the street You couldnt get more armchair expert than a dude from there talking about "real world self defense" Guarantee the dude wouldnt know what to do if someone pressed him for real
I thought that USDC was a pretty fun idea, but its execution somehow spiraled out of control. It would have been better if it was more relaxed with a lot more participants insights and less point scoring system that even i felt was entirely made up on the spot and I was just watching it like everybody else. I initially thought that the competition aspect was important to keep participants engaged, but then I soon realised that it doesn't matter. It's a title brought by a mildly popular youtube channel if someboedy doesn't care enough to give his best the lure of the shiny belt and the title from Rokas is not gonna make a difference. Netherless I enjoyed the show, but I would prefer it has stayed just this - a show about an self defence challenges with famous youtube martial artists - not a competition.
For something that was the first run (inexperienced), in a rush (sort of), at very low budget, it was done really good. Can it be done better, sure it can be done much better. But it was still a good show.
Fully agree that Jeff was making up the rules on the spot. But I can also see his point. The office lady boss situation was the hardest. Any man in the office regardless what he did or did not do, will be in jail if the lady boss makes a report to police. The police won't even bother to investigate, the woman's word is automatically trusted.
Nope. It's one person making an accusation and one person denying that. Without witnesses or solid proof the man won't be punished by the law. In that particular scenario she's a person with power who abuses said power to sexually harass her employees. Statistically that wouldn't be the only time of her trying that. So going to the police might backfire for her, because she wouldn't only lose the case, but other employees might speak up at that point. It's more plausible that the guys simply get fired for not giving in to her demands.
@@jc-kj8yc We had "recent" case to prove my point. A woman's car broke down at night, a passing by man stopped and offered help (at least helped her to a degree). Later the woman accused the man sexual assault. Police did not even bother to investigate, they charged him and throw the man into max security prison. The man spent weeks in max security prison, until one police decided to do some basic check. The police then realized the woman made the whole thing up. However, the man already lost his job, his wife left him, and his reputation was completely ruined. The worst part, the police wasn't even sorry about it, and I remember the lying woman wasn't even been charged with anything. The police default position is "trust women regardless" and it seemed they also follow "no investigation needed" policy.
@@GuitarsRockForever there are also cases of police officers killing inmates or, contrary to your point, proven rapists not being persecuted, but these are all anecdotes/cases of the system failing. What happened to the man in your example is a tragic case of the police not doing their job properly. It happens, but it's not how the system usually works. An accusation without prove is enough for an investigation, but not for a conviction
@@jc-kj8yc Sadly, that's how our system works. They (gov) even openly admit that they will always "trust women". And police more or less said they are not going to change anything.
Halfway through this video my heart started to break 💔. You are man that every man should aspire to be. The “not my problem” thing is scary especially when you get punished for helping people in distress
That's well put. If walking through one event is a pass, it almost should have been for every one. The meeting with mj, the theater one especially should of been an instant pass for anyone walking out directly if your the only person that matters. Why their worried about the rude goons is beyond my comprehension.
There's a mob attack on a bus ride, they ask you to close your eyes and then punch you with your eyes closed and then you fight a man covered in poop and also man drops on your head out of the ceiling.
This is basically a third-world prison camp and then they toss in a movie theater and a job interview and expect you to act normal. It made for fantastic entertainment but it isn't really self-defense lol.
Hahaha! 3rd world prison camp is a great description for those first few events!
You are completly right in saying Jeff made it up along the way. Its was badly planed and sometimes even unsafe as well. Seth for example said that the guy on the bus ambush went way to hard throwing full force punches. Jeff said he thought it was always fight the opponent in the attacking drill. The rules changed between the compatitors.
Jeff is really a bad instructor if he acts this way behind other peoples back. He changed his mind multiple times during the show and its even on camera. Hope they do a better job planning and explaining the rules in season two. Otherwise it will be the same mess
Yeah! So I wasn't the only one who saw this (making up things on the spot)! Simply from the already Edited footage, I found it to be painfully obvious, with Rokas even mentioning that the Rules were altered at least once (I believe it's more than once, but won't claim it as I don't remember well enough).
To then go and publicly claim that the Scenarios and Rules were all well thought out is mind boggling...
To be honest I don't even care much about him being a "bad instructor", this is a difficult tournament to run where it's hard to come with an objective ruleset and mistakes will be made since it's new.
The problem is him disrespecting Ramsey over the internet afterwards rather than attempting to address the problems, that puts his integrity into question and makes me think there's probably someone better to run the tournament.
The HR Kobayashi Maru was - by far - the most interesting and valuable event. Even if you don’t touch her as you exit, she only has to say you did. The corporate world at its best.
It appeared that everybody had the same total lack of preparedness for each unique event. Points didn’t matter in my living room with my kids. The group exploring ideas was great. The extra physicality less so. No need for ceiling zombies.
Hearing the scout oath was a surreal experience as I wasn't paying attention.
Good memories, thank you Ramsey Dewy I will go out and train now.
LARP is about right. Watching the USDC videos, I couldn't stop thinking how much this "competition" ran by supposed professionals reminded me of playing Dungeon and Dragons in high school with that one DM who has a big ego and is really bad (and arbitrary) at applying rules, and sometimes simply has different rules for the players and the NPCs.
This segment was literally live action role playing. That's not a hyperbole or a pejorative. It's just what it was.
Self defence guys are worse than D&D players, at least they admit that they're nerds 😂
@@RamseyDewey Come on, every tabletop RPG nerd knows LARPers are the lowest of the low! :P No, I get that you weren't trying to bash roleplaying scenarios or LARPing, my point (I think? I have a tendency to ramble) was that even if it is role playing, the rules are not clear or consistent. Which isn't that big of a deal if people in homemade costumes are throwing bean bags at each other at a campsite, but pretty damn important in a competition where people can (and do) get hurt.
honestly would be more entertaining to see a group of martials arts and self defense youtubers take part in a large scale medieval reenactment battle with pvc/foam weapons
@@aphidbowler7027 sounds like a good time!
My father worked with the mentally ill as well I got a lot of respect for your Ramsey
I work in a public library where we fairly regularly have mentally ill patrons. I cannot say “not my problem!” to the guy foaming at the mouth and harassing families with their children.
Being proactive is necessary in many places in life. From a moral standpoint, if not a safety one. Great video as always Ramsey.
Sorry you had a bad time at the Ultimate Self-Defense LARP Camp. But self defense isn't about defending yourself or others from harm. It's about keeping poop off of your hands and reflexively repelling women that try to speak to you. Everyone in the "self-defense" world knows that.
I didn't have a bad time there. I had a negative backlash on the internet afterward from Jeff Phillips and his crew.
I've been watching you on and off for a couple years and only recently subscribed. I've also (somehow) learned today that you also share my faith. It's awesome to find someone in the martial arts space that's also a fellow member. Stay strong and rock on.
One counterargument for the poop man scenario is that the first step of any first aid program is always to get yourself in a safe situation first, and then help. This is because if you get injured, paramedics now need to spread their time and attention and tend to you as well. Also, you cannot help if you are incapacitated yourself. So in the scenario as presented, running away is wrong, but running away to get help is probably the correct response.
I couldn’t physically run. The ligaments in my knee had been torn the previous day. Even if I could run, there wasn’t enough space to fit between the poop man, let alone without risking getting stabbed on the way. Remember, a large man was blocking the exit. Jeff squeezed by (barely) because he’s half my size. The only course of action resulting in safety was to incapacitate poop man.
When I think about the event, my first thought is the boss lady. In 2007 my manager was a woman more than three decades my senior that groped me (I am a man) even knowing that I had a girlfriend. I believed then, as I do now, that reporting the incident would have meant my dismissal and not hers. I had to navigate the incidents very carefully so that she felt comfortable with the criticism (she was rather mentally unstable) but not move it up the chain of command. Allowing the behavior to continue would have exacerbated her already unhealthy view of me as a sex object and may have dominoed into more complex incidents. It was very stressful, and I rather resent the solution being to simply walk out of the job and hope I can find a new one before rent is due. I work in medicine and the accusations she could have made against me (which would have been believed) would have stripped me of my license and I would have become a custodian overnight.
"bribing to win - illegal in the MMA" idk why but that was hilarious to me
Finally, someone gets my sense of humor!
Every other guy that got in the interview room was subject to the fake accusation even if they did not touch her. Hypothetically, this character could claim that she was abused even days after the event, to the same effect, because the only evidence is their telling.
32:46 😂 Oh gosh this is too funny. You’re giving me the laugh signals!
You always, always, always come off as a legit and humble dude. Sorry to hear you getting the crap from 'friends.' But I guess we've all been there, haven't we?
The real poop man was the self defense guys we met along the way
Hahahaha! True. Unfortunately.
I forgot about poop man.
Edit: i really appreciated bringing in the Good Samaritan story. God bless.
That was a really moving video. ❤ Thank you so much, we need more empathy in this world.
I love that Ramsey references the scout oath, as someone in scouting myself I heard the beginning and I was like, "oh wait I know this, oh cool"
Spot on about blood borne illnesses. Self defense instructors lack the same basic OSHA training that any tradesman would get on a job site, that is staggering to me.
I worked for many years as a custodian at sports complex with a pool, gyms, etc. cleaning up blood and poop was a regular event. I went through OSHA training so many times.
The solution to the Lady Boss Attack was to grab the pen, write down "I QUIT, (but here's my number)" and THEN leave. 😆
even though I CAN see I probably would have reacted the same way you did in the lady boss scenario 😂
I’m pretty oblivious to flirting as well.
Sadly that's the message a lot of people and places tell "do not get involved". In my country I enlisted in the equivalent to the National Guard to be able to assist to the University and serve, because I couldn't enter in the regular Army or Military Academy for some issues with my family.
But during our training in the Crisis Response Unit we learned a lot but not at the level of proper paramedic. During our instruction they were very clear, if you are not wearing your uniform be wary to give medical attention in street you could get in trouble specially if you don't have verbal consent of the victim.
So that means if someone is having a heart attack or suffocating I can't help, "you can help but at your own risk" and it's something contradictory.
Just because the person can't ask for help you should let them die?
Makes sense from the legal perspective but not from the moral.
Not trying to help is the right idea - that's madness. Utter madness.
The first thing an animal does after birth is generally the most important thing they do.
What does a baby do?
Cry. A universal sign for "I need help please". And these "Self defence" practitioners genuinely believe you shouldn't help someone if it might endanger you, even if their situation is worse? That goes against the most basic principles of being human.
As a classicist and archaeologist, I feel the need to make the argument of historical prcedent. Margaret Mead once said the first sign of civility was "a healed femur." When Gilgamesh goes on his great journey, he is praised for those he helps, and for his realisation in the end that to look after his people comes before looking after himself.
The worlds oldest story is about caring about your fellow man, even if you see them as beneath you.
What kind of moron genuinely believes you should fear your fellow man.
The first rule of martial arts: Protect yourself at all times!
The first rule of life: Help those that you can help at all times.
I mean, if you're going into a performance review where you're being told that your performance is beyond bad off the bat you should probably insist on having a union rep present. Like really in that scenario the winning move would have been to call in the union.
Poop Man and Blood Man sound like bosses from Megaman that didn't make the final cut 😂😂😂
I was disappointed by this show. Not because I had any expectations for it but because I was hoping for more videos of the six of you interacting and sharing ideas.
Honestly, I feel the same way. There was very little time outside of the competition events to do much of that. It was a very strange way to get to know people.
As someone who works in mental health, the “poop” scenario is effectively what would you do as a nurse or a healthcare assistant in a hospital setting. We deal with poop etc every day. While you try and put on ppe if available, you have a duty of care to those you care for, and sometimes that means you get poo on you. You make sure any broken skin is covered before you step foot on the ward, you wash any areas affected immediately, you pull an alarm if necessary for help… you do not run away and leave others in danger, unless you are at risk of severe injury (yes, we also get minor injuries on a weekly basis, it’s part of the job). Getting a bit of poo on you is not a valid reason to run away in this situation.
On a side note if the dude talking about the Book of Mormon… I’m an atheist, I’m happy to engage someone in a good faith debate about the merits of my belief and that of others, if the other person wants to, it’s not for me or anyone else to try to impose my philosophy on you, or to ridicule the beliefs of others. Poor show on their part.
I did not finish watching the self defense competition. From my point of view it seemed like a bunch of random scenario-based combat games, and that it would have been a lot of fun to participate in regardless of any competition factor. I guess that the main problem is a conflict in expectation-what happened (except you getting injured) would have been fine if the expectation of it being a non-serious event had been communicated, but was incompatible with the communicated expectation of a “real” competition. I’ve seen a lot of your review videos from it, and I’m sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience with it, that you got the short end of the stick, etc. If it had been understood from the start what the level of seriousness was, would you still have wanted to participate, and would you have perhaps approached it differently? Do you think that under those circumstances you could have enjoyed it more?
I only leave long comments on this channel, because Ramsey makes thoughtful and memorable videos.
Now to make comment much longer.
I liked the 'Poop man vs Blood man' and 'Evil Girl Boss' challenges because they are the kind of unforeseeable weird self defense situations where physical action is not the answer.
In the Poop man vs Blood man scenario helping is the right thing to do as a person, as a man, as a Christian and also morally. But the most basic thing in self defense is to always protect yourself. In my opinion the scenario was incorrectly set up. Right thing would have been to have a call Emergency Services (911 or the number in your country) option, and rate the fictitious phone call. In real life you're not Superman, you're not invulnerable, in these kind of scenarios call or professional help!
From the footage I saw and what I remember from it. Evil Girl Boss (the character) said you touched her, if she is someone who molests people, she is also someone who is not above lying. If I remember correctly she said that every time she touched or got touched by someone. But I don't know what happened after the scenario was over and if she (the actress) still claimed that being out of character when discussing the scenario.
When I saw the video and wrote the comment it was well after midnight in my part of the world, I would like to correct my self. When I got preachy about calling Emergency Services, I phrased it incorrectly. It was not a dig at Ramsey Dewey. By ‘you’ I meant second person plural referring to everyone who read my comment.
@@andrehernadi5930 Funny. It seems that the comment you've replied to has been deleted, but when I was reading you, at no point ever did I find that you were talking about anyone in particular... It's pretty clear.
I find it so painful, and sad, that nowadays it's become almost impossible to share your thoughts positively without someone coming and making all kinds of wild accusations, personal attacks, etc., from either grossly misunderstanding what you wrote, twisting your words past any form of recognition and common sense, and making weird assumptions about what you meant when you write a simple, clear and short message...
I have come to abstain from commenting almost all the time because I don't want to receive backlash and negativity, as I already have to deal with this kind of people on a daily basis and it's incredibly stressful.
However, I won't stop myself from leaving a comment, constructive feedback on Ramsey's Channel, because he really deserves it and if I shut up completely, I'm letting Trolls & people of bad faith win.
absolute gigachad take from ramsey
I'm sure in their minds they thought they were being transparent and fair. Tbh, there's a comedic aspect to the whole fiasco. If someone wants to talk crazy on the Internet, that sounds like someone wants to fight. Social media is cancer.
The truth is that coworkers and managers are never your friends. That’s one of the biggest mistake some people will make is to be best friends with co-workers and managers.. I made that mistake when worked in the kitchen for 6 years, all of them betrayed me and stabbed me in the back.
Im learning this to you Try to reason with there madness but end up going insane.
What if the real self defense was against personal attacks by the friends we made along the way?
Oooof…
There is no way to score self-defense skills objectively, there is no ruleset that would make sense in a broad selection of self defense scenarios.
I understood Rokas USDC more like a thought-provoking event involving martial artists than as a competition - some scenarios can make you question what is actual "self"-"defense" if analyzed with care. I took the final scoreboard as a silly gag, not really a big deal.
You were right about poop man, but if you say people's competition is stupid they are going to be angry 😅
They were already furious when I was being nice.
This USDC scoring system seems completely wonky. I could understand perhaps knocking off a couple points for not keeping both individuals in front of you in most situations, because third party encounters are weird given that you don't usually know who the bad guy is, butyour actions seemed the most logical for this scenario.
As a fellow Christian of a different sect granted, I agree that I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I left someone to die when I could've done something about it.
The second scenario. I feel like that whole lead up to the actual situation was handled poorly. Obviously, we should always be ready for something wild to happen, but I've never once walked into my bosses office thinking I was about to get into a fight.
How do you sue someone internationally?
Over here in Florida, we'd be screaming about suing within the first couple of days; and we're from the part of USA with the wild people that munch bathsalts and bite alligators.
I watched the usdc-video as a total outsider to the ma-yt-community, and though i liked a lot of the stuff - the mental-patient challenge was when I realized something was off.
My MA-journey was dominated by 15 years of judo and that did a few things to my perspective on self-defense. It was very good for me to gear that your perspective seems to match very closely to mine and that my gut-feeling about the show was kinda correct.
I need to hear more of this Poop Man and Blood Man lor. When's the next comic book release? XD
In defense of hypothetical scoring it allows for more mistakes to be seen. If they just used your first mistake it would have shown less and been harder to keep the rounds consistent
Get present RD. You have to let go of this stress ASAP. I hope your leg rehab is going well.
What stress?
@@RamseyDeweyIDK RD you just made content on how you are unfairly treated and portrayed... IDK the details... I can just see your need to emote over it still is a sign of stress...
@@grindordie3336 That's how you interpreted this??? Wow. Oooof. Oh boy.
@@RamseyDewey I just skimmed through the video so... I have learned a great deal from you & I appreciate most of the wisdom you share.
Had to re-upload because of copyright strike, coach? Still hope your knee gets well super soon!!!
very cool video, it was very informative Ramsay and i thought the bit about the good samaritan was really inspiring. Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed watching the whole thing, sucks that thing came out the way they did and people are so fragile to valid critisism. There is nothing wrong with admiting they fucked up with the production and scoring as well as informing everyone how things were actually gonna go down. But people got fragile egos or are afraid of backlash for admiting guilt. So yeah, im still probably gonna watch season 2 but im hoping that they learn from their mistakes and keep being so weird about it and attacking you. Like even as a first time viewer of the whole thing as it was coming out, its not that hard to notice that the rules seemed all over the place let alone that some of the scoring was odd like you pointed out multiple times in the series.
All I can think of is that scene from Joe Dirt, “I got the poo on me!”
Are you and Rokas okay? 😅
Yeah, this whole thing feels like the orginisers had something to prove with all these "got ya" scenarios. Just feels petty at times especially with how the scores were arbitary but treated as objective truths based of a pre-existing rule set. The overall feel was that everyone should be paranoid and completely hyper reactional to everything and that the only way to be truly "safe".
Sucks about the harrasment you've been recieving guess its true you only see how people truly are when you aren't around.
Youre irresistible, she just had to throw herself at you...
Also shame there wasnt a GG Allen inspired blood & poop man... Maybe next time!
God bless you and yours brother!
Im not sure there was an easy way to take your vision out of the scoring. It sucks that it hurt your score but i dont think there was a solution
What?
@@RamseyDewey it was much simpler (lazy) to ignore the individual limitations and abilities of each contestant. It means that you were judged incorrectly but the alternatives would have been complicated and required thought and planning
Have you read any of Rory Miller's books?
Wow teach, i didn't realise. Fekt up. Keep the faith sir
I guess the first iteration of something is always bound to have issues. Hope USDC 2 goes a lot better. It's interesting to see the reality-show style of USDC and then hear about what actually happened and what wasn't shown. I would care more that it was an interesting, ambitious collab of UA-cam martial artists and less about points and who "won."
Thanks for making this video
I definitely get where youre coming from in terms of standing up and helping out when needed. I also get the be cautious because even though this man got stabbed and injured, you dont know if hes on any kind of narcotics and is a threat to you as well. Granted its not often but its never 0% chance either. However, to say you failed it was rediculous when I first saw it. Knock points, sure I guess, but outright fail? Yeah thats a bit much. I get the what Phillips may have been trying to say, but it was articulated poorly.
On the office scenario. When MJ grabbed you and shouted "HE TOUCHED ME" I always thought they had counted it as she had touched you and docked you points for letting it get to that point and not trying to leave sooner. Thats how I interpreted it anyway as I knew everyones scenario more than likely had stuff cut from it so I didnt know how long each one actually lasted or what all was done.
It sucks Im just now finding your videos on these because it has soured a bit of my enjoyment of USDC but it absolutely needed to be said and done, and has given me better ideas for imrpovement of running scenarios in the future.
Just really hope they learned for Season 2 as I had very high hopes for it. But with what you said in regards to Jeff Phillips reactions to your critiques, Im less optimistic .
You're 100% right, Ramsey. I am planning to coach in the "self defense industry" myself. And the idea of making a self defense competition can never be taken seriously. EVERY situation is unique. There can never be two dangerous situations which are the same.
I still enjoy the videos though and I want them to succeed. Why? Because it looks fun! To me this is clearly entertainment like that Gladiators show.
The pretending it's serious is part of the entertainment. Just my two cents ❤️
P.S. they did over exert all of you though and their safety precautions are ABYSMAL!!! I commented it number of times in the original videos too... Their response was very defensive and dismissive 😞
As a person without faith--but still a decent human--I'm with you on the poop man blood man situation.
As a spectator, the competition looked like a lot of fun and I wish I could try something like it. There definitely were a lot of issues and ambiguity even from the outside looking in. There were also a lot of situations where I felt like things were needlessly dangerous, like when people sparred on a third floor(?) catwalk for some reason???
The scenarios that required role playing and acting felt very hamfisted to me. Like, why did you end up in a locker room with a guy who has been nearly stabbed to death by a man who has also had time to cover himself in poo and they've been rambling and you've only just woke up and become able to act?
The girl boss encounter is, like, a conversation worth having but I don't think it belongs in "the ultimate self defense challenge." I hate the term virtue signaling, but as a viewer it really felt like the competition was trying to impress me more than it was trying to start a conversation.
What are you defending yourself from? False accusations and liability?
What makes you think you are without faith? I have faith in many things and I bet you also do. Did you mean to say that you are a person who isn't religious, or who thinks that all gods are fictional? If so, that is very different to being "without faith". I hope this doesn't offend you but I wanted to make the comment because a person calling themselves "without faith" is not a matter to be taken lightly.
@@CarlySB it sounds like you understood the gist of what I was trying to say. I don't care much for the terms atheist or agnostic due to their baggage. I was raised Roman Catholic, and despite not believing that God exists, I do agree with a lot of the values I learned there. In fact, the main reason I was alienated from that community was because I didn't understand why so many people taught these intuitively good values but didn't practice them.
I get why you think that statement is very serious, but it sounds like it means different things to us. I'm not offended, I was just trying to be succinct. Something I make a point to say to people a lot is "I trust you." That probably indicates a lot more "faith" in humanity than a lot of people seem to have.
Who knew self defense means being a terrible human who doesn’t help others?? Very skewed and hypocritical take on it, they mentioned in some scenarios running isn’t an option because you can have family with you, but it’s all about yourself in a poopoo situation?
Yep. The wild inconsistency in their ethics was palpable.
Great Job Ramsey
I agree with you brother. I watched your video about that, and you gave your opinion from your perspective, and I don't like when people act like like they have right to censure other people opinion if they don't like it. Then you are just nothing else than a bully...
Bloodman okay Poopman nope! I'll call in professional help with bodysuits 😅
Hey, now you know how Joseph felt with Potiphar's wife. At least you got to leave still dressed... 😉
I love this
While it is morally better to help people it does put you in more danger so its understandable it hurt your score
I would have been in substantially more danger attempting any alternative.
The people organizing this seem really pretentious and biased. It's a cool concept but i'd like if it were by some more down to earth folk
after the zombie episode, the part of the series i was waiting for : i disagree with the judge about the shower scenario, first no one got hurt, so it should have counted as point.
MJ was still the MVP of this episode, i almost had a crush on her and wanted her to break me like a kitkat bar... wait did i said that aloud ?
edit :
So the USDC is a glorified game show run by an ego maniac, speedy recovery coach.
Ramsey putting the pen in his mouth is such a guy response to how women flirt. Lol. Made me laugh.
Its amazing what you can still do with reduced vision. My dad lost an eye in a car accident in his mid 20's and expected the DVLA (I live in the UK: thats Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) to take him off the road. But they allowed him to keep driving. He is in his 60's now and hes still flying around the roads like a madman. He talked about how losing his eye actually made him better at driving. Because it turned his vision from 3D to 2D and it made him able to judge gaps between spaces better, apparently.
Wow. I can no longer drive.
Man Ramsey is going IN
Aw man I had no idea about any of this…I’m very sad it happened.
I think the whole "competition" was meant to be fun. Look at it as a pilot, it's still not refined, but the overall concept of the show is there. I guess you don't get along with Rokas anymore?
My knee is crippled for life because of of the Western Combatives guys’ idea of “fun”. Rokas and I get along fine.
@RamseyDewey that's unfortunate about your knee. I hope you get well enough at least to be able to continue training. Honestly, some of those events seemed unsafe to me. At the end of the day, it is just a game, so safety should have been the number one concern.
Well both you and Rokas got marked down for engaging the two people. What puzzled me is why you and Rokas seemed to be the most clueless in scenario 3. I thought the married guys would be the most aware.
Yeah, I would definitely say billing the competition as a series of "Self-Defense" challenges was a bad move. It would have been better if it were advertised as a bunch of fighting-related challenges (fighting multiple people at once, fighting multiple waves of people, fighting in different environments, etc.).
If they wanted it to be a self-defense competition, it should have been entirely made up of specific self-defense scenarios, and it should have been scored based on some kind of coherent system: I would suggest scoring it based on legality.
Calling them fighting challenges would have been much less honest.
@RamseyDewey I think using your fighting skills to overcome challenges counts as "fighting-related". Plus, this alternative universe version wouldn't have included the office sexual harassment, poop man, and weird movie theater blind date nonsense.
after watching self-defense championship, i know longer maake eye contact with women and if a woman enters the room i immediately ask to go to the bathroom. you never know what will happen when a woman is around and its better to be safe than sorry.
That is the problem when we all have different values. Doing something of value can be considered a deteriment to others. Running away allowing a man to walk around with a knife and potentially kill other people is not self defence. I didn't know you had sight issues. They should have tried to find a way to account for it, but they don't have the experience for that.
9:41 They should be renamed "Western Brats" for their attitude.
This challenge could have been so much better if Ramsey was in charge 8:42
What is self defence? Well its whatever Jeff decides it is on the day. Its not surprising how it all turned out given his history. Every scenario that was 50/50 was vs another contestant and every scenario where you are disadvantaged he has his guys beat you up to try and tell you that you're all wrong and his methods are right. I'm sure S2 will be more of the same communication issues and things being explained one way and done another and scored randomly. I'm waiting for the "apology" comment from Jeff here any second to try and save face and I'd bet good money it'll contain ZERO responsibility as usual.
Sucks for your experience but at least Australia was good right?
Watching Season 1, as it progressed, the more and more I felt like I was watching a Subliminal Ad for Jeff's Self-defense Services... And not in a good way.
It's sad, because from everything that I was able to gather, Rokas went in with the best of intentions, but got carried away (I'm not saying that this absolves him of responsibility, far from it), and this Event had so much potential!
This is kind of when the show went off the rails for me personally. The premise of the scenario is silly. Not to nitpick it too much, but there was clearly a point where Jeff would have gotten stabbed in the back if the guy actually meant to harm him. And I really dislike the idea that self-preservation is the end all to be all in every scenario. I feel like a big part of training to fight is not just about being able to protect yourself but also being able to protect others. If you see a bad situation and you think you can help while still being relatively safe, then you have a moral obligation to do such.
Honestly, USDC came off as kind of an advertisement to me after it was all said and done. It wasn't the fun and relatively lighthearted competition I was expecting given the cast, and seemed more about showing how 'hardcore' the drills could be (which would explain a lot of why there was so much flak afterwards). The competition should have been the backdrop while you guys were the story. I also got the impression that they had a really loose idea of what the show was supposed to be and just kind of ran with it.
It also seemed like they went out of their way to make you guys fail sometimes, or even just tried to beat the crap out of you. And then the one goof off segment resulted in someone being seriously injured. lol. It wasn't so bad that I am avoiding season 2, but if it's going to be more of the same general attitude, I'll probably bounce.
Well it is self defense, not a social intervention, championship. Not about right or wrong, just a train of thought
Calling it a “self-defense championship” doesn’t mean it actually has anything to do with self defense. Using your words will solve far more problems than violence ever will.
@@RamseyDewey but then what is it? that was just my interpretation of the whole thing on first viewing
It’s a “reality” show designed to garner views on UA-cam.
It's definatly a pool noodle. Kinda silly though. You don't want people to get seriously injured there. Otherwise, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I actually thought it was a foam covered stick because it was stiffer than a pool noodle. But Phillips’ reaction is over the top over a tired man’s interpretation
Perhaps telling Evil Girl Boss that your gay and so it wouldn't work would defuse the situation and make her loose interest and let you keep your job. The down side is that I guess you would have to keep up the pretence in the workplace for a while.
I wouldn't risk telling a dominant woman that haha
The whole thing was ridiculous. It was a strange setup. I didn't enjoy it as much as I was hoping to. I made a comment about my thoughts afterwords concerning the way they graded you guys. I mentioned how ridiculous it was that they docked you points for saving the mentally ill, yet also docked you points for not trying to save the sexually abusive thugs that just touched your supposed girlfriend, because in today's society that makes alot of sense somehow?
As I understand it Jesus did not get into defining the word neighbor. He asked who proved to be a neighbor. The religious leader said the one who showed mercy. Jesus said do likewise. Jesus did not engage in a semantic game which could be an endless rabbit hole.
"Self-defense" is the problematic phrase here, maybe. It implies only thinking of one's own livelihood, ignoring others. A good person who does the right thing in defending others is often putting themselves into harm's way, like a firefighter.
You're a good person, not someone who practices self-defense. This championship seems a bad fit for you. And even if you won, it would be a shame, not an honor.
I vet it's frustrating but think it's fair for them to penalize you for the poopman scenario because the idea is to protect yourself and you put yourself in harms way by engaging. The best thing to do in that situation is to call the cops from your stall and wait it out. Then they can engage and help them while you keep yourself safe.
That being said I can respect wanting to help them and choosing to put yourself in harms way to help knowing there could be consequences but it isn't self defense anymore even if it's under the legal definition.
I actually disagree. A lot of mental health crisis could be de-escalated via engagement like Rokas. Calling for police, at least in my country, sadly, too often ends up in the shooting of the person going through the mental health crisis, since the cops here get very little training in recognizing the signs of mental health issues and de-escalation.
That's a completely different scenario that you have proposed. And that "idea" was never presented to us as the objective, let alone the one "correct" objective. There was no stall, there was no phone to call anyone. There was an exit being blocked by a man with a weapon, slowly moving toward me, and another man bleeding out in need of emergency medical aid. I had torn ligaments in my knee from the previous day and could not run. There was no choice but to engage. Humans cannot magically phase through solid objects. I was already in harms way. There was no way around that.
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I’ve been training in Sydney for over 15 years and have never heard of this ‘Western Combatives’ place. With all the top-tier facilities, gyms and fighters we have here, it seems odd that this place full of non-combat athletes (and seemingly terrible safety protocols) was chosen. I’m embarrassed watching this. Sorry you had to go through it Ramsey. Wishing you the best.
8:28 well he really is a "self defense expert" after all🤭
I’m really sad to see the behaviour from Jeff and his crew I used to go to western combatives I expected a lot more from them but instead of taking your criticisms and improving they just decided to attack you over the internet
I didn’t offer criticisms to him. That’s not even what he was reacting to. Jeff got mad because (1) he thought calling a foam covered stick a pool noodle was insulting to him somehow, and (2) he completely misinterpreted what I said about my experiences. It was a personal narrative about me he was reacting to, not a criticism of him.
I feel like it went from incompetence to negligence maybe even malice. I haven't followed either Rokas or the other dude, but they should acknowledge the mistakes they made.
As for scoring since it the rules and objectives were nonexistent I'd be fine if they gave more points dependent on how the situation played out, like you could've gotten more points because your "girlfriend" in theater was more aggressive.
I thought the concept of this show sounded cool when I heard it but after watching ten minutes of the first episode I was bored.
In today's era being a good Samaritan gets you sued, terrible.
What does an australian even know about self defense?
They live in an ethnically homogeneous society with very little crime or weapons on the street
You couldnt get more armchair expert than a dude from there talking about "real world self defense"
Guarantee the dude wouldnt know what to do if someone pressed him for real
I thought that USDC was a pretty fun idea, but its execution somehow spiraled out of control. It would have been better if it was more relaxed with a lot more participants insights and less point scoring system that even i felt was entirely made up on the spot and I was just watching it like everybody else. I initially thought that the competition aspect was important to keep participants engaged, but then I soon realised that it doesn't matter. It's a title brought by a mildly popular youtube channel if someboedy doesn't care enough to give his best the lure of the shiny belt and the title from Rokas is not gonna make a difference.
Netherless I enjoyed the show, but I would prefer it has stayed just this - a show about an self defence challenges with famous youtube martial artists - not a competition.
For something that was the first run (inexperienced), in a rush (sort of), at very low budget, it was done really good. Can it be done better, sure it can be done much better. But it was still a good show.
I hope they have proper insurance for USDC2.
jeff philips is a muppet. end of the story. look at his responses on his channel. meh
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Fully agree that Jeff was making up the rules on the spot. But I can also see his point.
The office lady boss situation was the hardest. Any man in the office regardless what he did or did not do, will be in jail if the lady boss makes a report to police. The police won't even bother to investigate, the woman's word is automatically trusted.
Nope. It's one person making an accusation and one person denying that. Without witnesses or solid proof the man won't be punished by the law. In that particular scenario she's a person with power who abuses said power to sexually harass her employees. Statistically that wouldn't be the only time of her trying that. So going to the police might backfire for her, because she wouldn't only lose the case, but other employees might speak up at that point. It's more plausible that the guys simply get fired for not giving in to her demands.
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We had "recent" case to prove my point. A woman's car broke down at night, a passing by man stopped and offered help (at least helped her to a degree). Later the woman accused the man sexual assault. Police did not even bother to investigate, they charged him and throw the man into max security prison. The man spent weeks in max security prison, until one police decided to do some basic check. The police then realized the woman made the whole thing up.
However, the man already lost his job, his wife left him, and his reputation was completely ruined. The worst part, the police wasn't even sorry about it, and I remember the lying woman wasn't even been charged with anything. The police default position is "trust women regardless" and it seemed they also follow "no investigation needed" policy.
@@GuitarsRockForever there are also cases of police officers killing inmates or, contrary to your point, proven rapists not being persecuted, but these are all anecdotes/cases of the system failing. What happened to the man in your example is a tragic case of the police not doing their job properly. It happens, but it's not how the system usually works. An accusation without prove is enough for an investigation, but not for a conviction
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Sadly, that's how our system works. They (gov) even openly admit that they will always "trust women". And police more or less said they are not going to change anything.
I'm poop man.
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