The Irish Legend of Princess Scotia
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- The Legend of Princess Scotia, found in Irish Mythology, namely The Lebor Gabála Érenn or The Book of the Taking of Ireland, says that the Scots are descended from an eponymous ancestor named Scota or Scotia. She is described as the daughter of a Pharaoh who married a Scythian prince named Nel. They would go on to have a son, Goídel Glas from whom the Gaels are said to be descended.
Is there any evidence to support the legend? Is it hidden history? Or is it all poetic license? This video analyses the information we have.
Fascinating story. I’m a Kiwi of Irish descent. My mother (who had it from my grandmother) told me that the Lions of Ireland acknowledged an Egyptian Princess who played a part in Old Ireland. I’ve also read work talking about the influence of Coptic Christianity on early Irish Christianity. You are doing excellent stuff Auld Boy.
Thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment. Yeah there’s some really interesting stuff going on with the Celtic Christianity..Simon magus is mentioned in the mythologies and historical texts relating to the early Celtic Christians. I’ve done a presentation on it if you are ever interested…it’s called Simon magus and Celtic Christianity or something similar. The video on the Mšecké Žehrovice bust also seems to show the hair style they were wearing. Thanks again, great to have you here in the comments 👌
What a treat to find this work this morning! Thank you, as always, for your thoughtful scholarship and presentations.
Thank you Nancy, I thought I’d leave a surprise while I’m on family duties! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment 😊👍
Just woke up and seen you posted this video, about to watch it, I know it's got to be great because this is one of my Favorite topics and there's sooooo much more to the story of Scotia 😊 Me being a blend of many different races including Scottish and Persian and Egyptian and more, this one always hits home. Thank you for the work you put into your channel; you touch base on pretty much all things I study daily faithfully. 💜🖤💜
I concur! We are all a mixed bunch, having much more to our DNA than what most realize! I have Roma and Cherokee along with Anglo-Frank-Celt.
I’m pleased to hear this topic struck home. I hope you enjoyed the information presented..I have a couple more episodes coming soon that will follow on. Thanks again for watching and for leaving a comment, I really appreciate the support!
@@occultexaminerI'm swedish, danish, german, english, scottish and mexican. mixed bunch, indeed.
Im part Scot on my father's side I've heard this idea before. The Egyptian part I didn't know so well. Thank you
No problem, thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment 😊👌
@@auld_boy thank you. I'm also deeply invested in Etruscan studies too.
@@ZerilathImmortal ah cool, pleased to hear it. Let me know your thoughts when you are done! Cheers 👍
What I really love about your videos, is that the presentation is so beautifully done, my mind is cranking on all cylinders, and I have revelations I wouldn't have otherwise.
The Hyksos, called by the Egyptians the Heka Khasut, phonetically sounds a lot like "Higha Sakut".
Thank you mate, I’m pleased you are enjoying the style of video and I’m really pleased to hear it getting you thinking! Thanks for all the support!
This is so great! Thank you again for showing how things are connected!
No problem at all, thanks for taking the time to watch and leave a comment. I appreciate all the support 😊👍
Always love to hear from you and your work.... Makes the Bold and the Beautiful look pale.... Thank you again Auld Boy
Thanks so much, that’s a really kind thing to say. Thanks for watching, I appreciate the support!
Wow! Fantastic watch, amazing detail brilliantly presented.
I’m fascinated by this tale. Your delivery is the best I’ve encountered. Top work sir.
Ah thank you Scott, that means a lot. Thanks for watching through the videos. There’s more coming on this story over the next one or two videos 👌
i live in tralee co kerry ireland and queen scotias grave is in scotias glen about three kilometers from tralee.@@auld_boy
I’m so distracted!! Feni/Feinius has my mind reeling. My grandfather’s name was Noble Finis D. F. We know little about his lineage on his father’s side, because in 1909 when gramps was 3, his father shot himself & my great gran leaving gramps with the bodies. I can’t help but wonder if these old tales were part of his namesake. His mom’s sister was a married teacher who couldn’t have children so they adopted my gramps. We know about the DeWitt side of the family back to Jamestown times, coming over from France & establishing a church on the American east coast around the Carolina’s. Of his father’s side, we don’t even have the story of how they met and married, let alone beyond that.
Seeing how important education was for my great gran makes me think that they may have been taught these things or his father was.
Wow Kari, that sure is a lot of history. It is a rather unusual name also so I hope you can find some further information. If I every see anything with relation to it, I’ll be sure to let you know. Good luck and thanks for sharing your story.
And thanks for taking the time to watch and for the continued support!
A lot of interesting information here.
Thank you, I’m pleased you thought so 😊👍
I don't know why I never put it together but the Hyksos Shepherd Kings seem to be the people discussed here. I always assumed they were Phoenician, but at this point in antiquity there was likely a very fine line between the two.
Yes it made me think of that too. Especially how the Historia Britonnum account says the Scythian prince was originally exiled. I’ve got some pretty interesting additional info which may help identify them which I’ll show in next weeks episode. Thanks again for watching and for leaving a comment, it really helps me out 😊👌
Really looking forward to it
I'm looking forward to that info @@auld_boy
Excellent work! It’s fascinating that DNA research has revealed a Bronze Age migration from the Pontic Steppe of Southern Russia to Ireland.
Thank you, I’m pleased you enjoyed it.
Yes I have seen that study, it’s fascinating stuff.
I also have some info which shows dna studies done comparing the British isles and Galicia, which I’ll include in the next episode. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment 😊👍
Yes and the remainder of Europe.
This channel has quickly become a favorite of mine. Best video on Scotia on yt 👏🏻
Thanks that’s really kind of you to say. Thanks for taking the time to watch!
@@auld_boy no, thank you for the entertainment!
Oh Gawd.. The Purple! Fantastic!
It sure gets around! The Galician Celtic tribes of Iberia may have had it too as there is a passage which states they had purple crests on their helmets. Thanks for watching.
Wonderful.
Thank you Daniel 😊👍
Keep up yer good work lad, handling yerself and these sources like champ. What do you reckon with parrallels with Scota and Princess Meritaten (Akhenaten's daughter)? The story of the Scythian-Gaelic diaspora in Egypt is curious. Post-Akhenaten, Egypt's politics were tumultuous and Akhenaten's radical state and religious reforms coincide with the social upheaval which occurred after with his son Tutenkhamen and Tutenkhamen's assassination - this would suggest some form of coup amongst the religious class which sought to undo and revert state religions back to the traditional polytheism. Akhenaten's religious movement is theorised to be the first instance of monotheism from which the Israelites fleeing egypt supposedly took inspiration from in combination with their native Levant traditions. One tradition I heard which would explain the transition of Scotia's name from Meritaten is that it was tradition for women to take a name which is fitting and representative of their husband and traditions - therefore Scotia, deriving from Scythia. Another interesting point of correspondence found in Tutenkhamen's Y haplogroup was R1b, modern western European, we can deduce then that Akhenaten was the same providing legitimacy. If this haplo-group came down in waves of migrations from the old North of Scythia, how long were these people in power? While we know there was polytheism in Ireland, it's more nuanced and tied up in allegory and myth, not as similar to other polytheistic traditions. The druidic castes in Ireland would seem to be slightly different in character from their neighbours in Britain, and the strong emphasis on Solar/Light worship in Ireland would make me wonder how much of the Gaelic culture retained influences of Akhenaten's initial movement? The rapid conversion and assimilation of this caste in Ireland into the Christian movement (along with parallels brought up in this comment section with Egyptian Coptic Christianity), along with the founding of Celtic Christianity would add another layer. Of course it's hard to say with certainty how much of this is true, but merely connections and musings I've been making. Lastly, I've pondered the legitimacy of Conor MacDari's work - I can't put any legitimate stock in it, but it could be said that its possible there is truth in some of it due to persecution and destruction of history. These different parallels would make me consider there to be a kernel of truth, though much of the rest could be considered a sort of Hiberno-centrism (or not, who knows). MacDari claimed the Irish to be an engineer/builder people and credited them to even building egypt - a very hard statement to back up but the story of the Scythian's building the tower of Babel struck me. He also made connection with the Hebrews and the Irish which I thought was funny considering the story of Gaidhel's encounter with Moses and the israelites. Then we have the strange presence of R1b in West Africa which seems to have followed a migratory route down the nile to its source before starting off Westward where we had a strong west african civilisation - this I've connected with the Igbo-like insciption using Ogham found in North america, its possible these found their way there via Phoenecian exploration operations of which we know landed in North america, building similar stone solar-aligned complexes like those found in the West Atlantic zone. Sorry for the info dump - hopefully something in here you can make sense of or cross reference with your sources. Ádh mór duit a chara
Thanks for taking the time to watch and for for leaving such an in depth comment!
I honestly can’t say if there’s any connection or not. I’m not really experienced enough to say as I’m not overly experienced in the Egyptian side. It definitely does spark the imagination in terms of the Hyksos story..it does seems quite similar. And I have seen articles relating to the DNA studies conducted on some of the mummies but I’ll have to admit, I’ve not looked into them too much…
Having said all that, I do have some interesting information regarding her name as well as a potential link to another group of people, which may help identify Gaedil. I don’t want to spoil the surprise but it will be up next week.
Sorry I couldn’t give you any further info on the Egyptian side. If I do come across any more information however, then I’ll be sure to let you know.
Cheers for the continued support, for taking the time to watch and for leaving a comment as well as all the information in the post, it’s much appreciate.
Tapadh Leat 😊👌
Dude, I'm just getting into the history of the R1a and b peoples, I thought they were separate from Hebrews and I'm also finding out that so many Pharaohs had R1b.
Could you spoon feed me a nugget or a seed to continue? Does the bible talk about the R1 peoples? Is the bible true in any way? Are the israelites the )evvs of today?
I ask because I'm in a place where I consider all Abrahamic religions )evvish propaganda. So this connection is a shock to me.
@@mog2182 I’m inclined to agree with the scholars that say the bible was written in the 3rd century. Everything seems borrowed and taken straight from the playbook of Plato. In republic he says in order to control a nation, you have to tell them their ancestors were a descendant of God and their laws have been passed down and preserved since then. He writes about the 12 tribe system used by the greeks in which responsibilities and duties were shared and rotated on a monthly basis in order to preserve harmony..this seems to have been a theme adopted by the Jewish scribes. Judao-Christianity takes it to the next level and tries to say every culture is descended from Noah to make their laws and religion global. Most of the noble lines descending from Noah comes in during the medieval period.
The Irish sources clearly identify the Israelites as a separate group of people and I’m yet to see in the original sources, any mention of them being Hebrews. The language branch is also a PIE language and isn’t Semitic and their genetics are different!
@@auld_boy thanks man, I was also under the impression that the bible and the torah are just stolen myths and they gave themselves the moniker of chosen people, but all of these European myths about Noah and Isaelites and such mixed me up.
The written account, though Medieval in origin, follows and fills in the gaps on the question of the origin of the Hyksos (who also introduced the chariot to Egypt) without having known the story of the Hyksos. It certainly adds an air of authenticity to the narrative, but it is easy to weed out the later Christian influence from the original material if you pay attention. Nicely researched. Keep up the good work.
Yea I concur about the later Christian influences..and I’ve got some interesting info which could possibly shed more light on this group of people, when not viewed through that Christianised lens. The fact it seems to be the journey almost word for word mentioned in the declaration of Arbroath as well, certainly is interesting.
Thanks for the kind words, for watching and for leaving a comment!
@@auld_boy You are seriously helping fill in some gaps, and shed light on some questions.
@@jameswells554 cheers James, that means a lot. I’ve got some info I’ve not seen anyone else talk about which also seems quite compelling. It will be in the follow up I’ll release next weekend 👌
This was a fantastic piece of work, thank you!
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this... so who were these people in other sources? For example the Pharao father of Scotia?
Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate your comment. We don't get too much more information unfortunately, however there is a link Ill be exploring in the next episode which seems to be connected and might help us identify them. Thanks for taking the time to watch and for commenting!
Thanks so much for your reply, @@auld_boy. Looking forward to the next episode!
Does this 72 languages thing appear elsewhere? I’m intrigued to know what those 72 are?
Yes it’s mentioned in the Tower of Babel myth but it’s a recurring theme throughout scripture. It ultimately seems to be astrological in origin as it’s the length of time it takes for one degree of astrological procession and the internal angles of a hexagon add up to 720 degrees. It’s a phenomena in numerical values also which is probably why the ancients associated it with the notion of divine creation.
Yes, Jehovah in the Bible has a 72 lettered name and a 42 lettered name. Interestingly, 6 + 6 x 6 = 72 and 6 x 6 + 6 = 42 !!
My Ancestors ❤
Thanks for watching, I hope I brought some new info to the table.
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Very nice, thanks for watching!
Further bolsters the narrative with that genes prevalence here in Ireland and Scotland
Yeah I had a look at some genetics on the next video and you are right..seems like a higher amount of R1B. Cheers for watching and for leaving a comment.
My name is Kevin Lorne, member to Cenel Loarn, House to none less than the Historic MacBeth. Loarn Mac Erik was the great unifying king of Dal Riata and Alba long before William Wallace and The Bruce and was quite possibly the historic King Arthur Pendragon. The Etruscan God of War was Laran. Some how, all this ties together. So my marrow tells me.
Thank you for watching and for sharing your story. I appreciate it. I’ve done a few videos on the Etruscan practices if it’s of interest. Thanks again.
The last king of Israel had two daughters one of which was this lady Jeremiah the prophet took them first to Egypt then on to Ireland where there was a royal house of Israel to legitimize the two houses she needed to marry this house Yaweh promised to keep a Davidic lineage on the throne till the second coming ,Yaweh kept his promise I'm not sure the royal have entirely kept the faith
Celts unite
Indeed! And thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I appreciate it.
must have been truth in this as no snakes in ireland
SORRY OR SCOC A ...I grew up in Tralee right about the foleys Glen where Queen Scotia or SCOO SH or FREI ... daughter of Nephiti was buried.. YES REALLY ...
Cheers for the info and thank you very much for watching. Appreciate it 👌
The "Egyptian" princess wasn't Egyptian, she was a princess from Egypt. She was actually a Jewish princess. a daughter of King
Zedekiah , who fled with the prophet Jeremiah and a group of others after Jerusalem had been destroyed by the Babylonians. There is a book, available on the internet, - "The Book of Tephi" that tells of her journey from Jerusalem to Egypt and on via Spain to Ireland. It is based on Irish legends and is quite plausible. Her flight with Jeremiah can be found in the book of Jeremiah ch.43.
I’m not sure that they are the same person as they are separated by around 400 years according to the texts. Amergin the Bard which mentions Tephi says she was a wife of Eremon who is a descendant of Gaedel..the son of Skotia. Here’s what the book of the taking of Ireland says about the time in between Gaedel and Eremon:
“Now Sru son of Esru son of Gaedel, he it is who was chieftain for the Gaedil who went out of Egypt after Pharao was drowned [with his host in the Red Sea of Israel]: Seven hundred and seventy years from the Flood till then.
Four hundred and forty years from that time in which Pharao was drowned, and after Sru son of Esru came out of Egypt, till the time when the sons of Mil came into Ireland, to wit, Eber and Eremon.”
The earlier texts relating to Tephi also don’t mention her being a Hebrew or Jewish..this seems to come in with the book you mentioned which was written by John Goodchild in 1897.
I’ve looked through all the Irish sources and can’t find any mention of them being Jewish, in fact the texts refer to the Israelites as a separate group of people, which is echoed in the declaration of Arbroath which says:
“Most Holy Father, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. It journeyed from Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage peoples, but nowhere could it be subdued by any people, however barbarous. Thence it came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to its home in the west where it still lives today. The Britons it first drove out, the Picts it utterly destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the Danes and the English, it took possession of that home with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the histories of old time bear witness, they have held it free of all servitude ever since. In their kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal stock, the line unbroken by a single foreigner.” So they seem to see themselves as different people than the Israelites.
With regards to Skotia, the only info that can be found on her in the original texts, is that she was the daughter of a Pharaoh called Cringcris and her name is the same as an epithet for Aphrodite which was used in Egypt. The text does say her son, Gaedil was a contemporary of Moses though and he has a snake bite cured by him. If you have any other sources which I’m not aware of though then I’m up for taking a look. Unfortunately so far, I’ve not been able to find mention of the Jewish connection in the original texts.
She came from Judah last of the Davidic line.
Hey, thank you for watching! Which text says she was from the line of David please? I’ve seen others mention this but I read all the Irish and Scottish sources which mention Scotia and couldn’t find it. The only info I could find is that she has a Greek epithet as her name and the text refers to the Israelites as a separate group. Would love to take a look as in trying to get to the bottom of it. Thanks 😊👌
@@auld_boy it will take me a while to find it.I may have her mixed up with Tea Tephi,it's been years since I read this.
@@everettbass8659 no worries at all. I’ve just been trying to get to the bottom of it and I can’t find where the idea comes from. Cheers for having a look, I appreciate it 👌
@@auld_boy I enjoyed the article,thank you.
@@auld_boy Robert Sepher on UA-cam,he may be able to help.
You need to understand scythians are isralites
In all sense of the word
Erasuru
Clearly esau
Saxon
Sons of Isaac
SCOTIA, is pronounced Sco-sh-a. Caro
Not in the Greek though..Skotia was an Epithet of Aphrodite which was used in Egypt...I go into it in the next episode!
What a load of nonsense this is make believe
Prophet Jeremiah brought last lineage of Jacob (servant of yahshuah Yahweh) twin sons to Ireland scottia major then onto scottia minor Scotland. Tribes of Judah. Along with the Germans. Gold Line/Red Line. Lions running rampant. Tamed by the rhinoceraus the horned horse. Ephraim/mennaseh. Hell's henchmen.
Hey, thank you for watching! Which text can I look at which has this info please? I’ve seen others say similar things, but I read all the Irish and Scottish sources which mention Scotia and couldn’t find it. The only info I could find is that she has a Greek epithet as her name and the text refers to the Israelites as a separate group. Would love to take a look as in trying to get to the bottom of it. Thank you 😊👌