I wonder if just by adding a 71 series supercharger to this engine you could easily move a 45' motorcoach down the road.... Albeit a few engine software and exhaust mods...... Without any forced induction this V10 already can move an RV or small bus so it should not be that hard to conceive....
@@freedomlawnservice1987 I don't know why you say they are terrible,I own a 2002 F-450 with the 6.8L V10 and it has nearly 390,000 Miles on it,and no issues at all.The 2 Valve V10 with 325 HP/425 TQ is bulletproof and very durable,you sure as shit get nailed on how much gas they eat,but that's a no brain to figure out.The problem with the Vortec and even Hemi is that they get their peak starting at 3,000 RPM,with the Triton,it takes a good 2,500 RPM and then it takes off.I have gone as high as 4,000 RPM on a hill,but on a normal road I'm doing 2,500-2,700 RPM with any heavy cargo behind me.And then the 3 Valve V10 has even more at 362 HP/457 TQ.
I had a 2000 excursion 2wd. I put 4.30s and a banks tuner/cold air intake and jdm y pipe, it really woke it up. Ive since sold it and bought a 6.0 excursion and have been regretting it ever since. I've spent more on repairs on the 6.0 than I did on the entire v10 excursion, and the v10 pulled as good with less drama. A lot more gas though lol
That squirrelly steering is an old trade mark I guess. Lol. Mine does it too. Replaced entire front end and adjusted the gear box. Get a pro alignment. It helps to knock that way down, but still a bit of back and forth.
Nice, I highly doubt my 94 250 with the 351 would do that, Ive had a little more then 15k behind it on relatively flat roads for about 15 miles. Way past the old workhorses rating haha. My only gripe with the video is that we never saw the trailer!
Matt Pike I had a 95 F350 with the Windsor, and it would pull 15k with a little struggle at take off, but 70 mph was not hard to get to or hold. I used it pulling campers for FEMA, A 30ft double slide out was no problem, it would pull just as good as the7.3. I sold it with 250.000 miles on it and it pulled its whole life. was a damn good truck and very strong motor. I feel like the trans was better geared then the truck in this vid.
I replaced the tie rod and tie rod end. I thought I had a strut popping while I was off road but a buddy seen the tie rod end jumping around. Replaced the entire thing and its like riding on a rail now. :D
I got a 99 v10 f 250 pulled a load from pinehill Alabama to grants pass Oregon took 3 days pulling a 18 foot trailer full of everything out of my shop 4 tool boxes tire machine motor stands you name it it was a load NEVER A PROBLEM with 200,000 on motor family said it's a ford it would never make it never a doubt for me
3.73 and 4.10 were standard on the super duty trucks back then. Only way to get 3.55 was to put them in yourself. 10.50" rear end. The only thing this truck needs is the ZF6 manual. Would've done better on towing. I spy a Minnesota license plate.
aaaaaaaaannnnnndddd your o/d light starts flashing! haha I'm done with my 5.4 and 4r100. Weak when pulling on mountains. I have never felt confident in it because of that transmission.
Is your F250 a 3 speed or 4 speed? My friend who has one says his 2000 V10 is a 3 speed, but literally every website says it's a 4 speed until 2003 when they started using 5 speeds (even Ford's website). I wanna hear it from you if it's a 3 speed or 4 speed.
Big Dan They did. They went from a 2v to a 3v head design in the 2005 model year. 2v V-10's make 310hp and 425lb/ft of torque. 3v V-10's make 355hp and 455lb/ft of torque.
Ended up picking up a 7.3 flatbed drw, loaded a 36' gooseneck trailer until the 12k rated tires went bulgey and the bed dropped about 3 inches when I rested the gooseneck on it.. I blew the front main seal on the auto trans on i40 through arizona, had it rebuilt and proceeded to lose 3rd gear in Tennessee.. couldn't find a truck with a manual, and I ended up paying for it. Now I'm pulling the parts together to swap the auto to 6 speed. Love that 7.3! Only running a programmer. Nothing else aftermarket that I'm aware of. Had no problems cruising 80 mph with that load on rolling hills passing everyone and everything.. Motor had no issues with the climb to 7000 ft elevation through az.. That trans though..
they started in 1st gear, but eventually got moving fast enough for the next one. Thats just the way it is with a heavy load like that on somthing so small. Its a pickup not a semi. Imagine the diff this truck would do with an 18speed trans. You dont move as fast but everything is working much easier with an engine speed and road speed to match the load and grade.
I know we could assume that the steering is bad but I think that the vehicle was overloaded at the tongue weight of the trailer. My guess is they just have quite a bit too much towards the front of the trailer which in turn is lifting up the front of the pick up so there is a loss of control over the steering which makes it pretty unsafe to be honest. Either way, whether it is the overloading of the trailer tongue weight or there is a steering issue, I don't think they should be pulling this much weight if the steering issue is as bad as we can evidently see in the video. That's not safe.
Monster4FTE I have a '99 F-250 with 4.30's. I've had quite a bit more behind it, going uphill as well. It'll grunt a little harder than the diesel does but its no struggle like this truck went through.
Dude, the driver either had a stop sign before the incline, or lugged it in second for the video. If you are hitting a big incline, you know the driver is all over the gas pedal earlier the better.
Gotta love the modular fords completely gutless but the but indestructible especially the 2v 4.6, and 6.8 my personal opinion is gm had everyone whooped for years with the vortecs. The would run circles around Triton modulars. I dont get why ford detune some modulars to the point its dangerous they cant get out of their own way. I'm not bashing ford I just dont get that
It's definitely in 1st. The 4R100 has a relatively tall 2.71:1 first gear, compared to 3.9:1 for the modern 6-speed in use in the '11-present trucks. Less torque multiplication means it can run faster in first gear.
I think its 3:73 for the v10 it's just that 4 speed transmission... the first gear is like a 2:93 or something vs today's standard is like 4:80 for the 10 speed trans from ford
2idiot4u yeah, alot of 1 to 2 shifts in 4 and 5 speed autos create a huge rpm difference. The 4 and 5 speed autos the put in pickups were much better suited for the lower rpm diesels. Imo the gearing on them is just to far apart for the higher rpm of gassers. Finally though, they are starting to make trannys with close enough gears with the newer 8 and 10 speed autos.
@@joeyhillers9460 I'm getting my uncle's 99 F250 with a Triton for my birthday. Six miles to the gallon, but loud enough to scare small animals and children. I dunno what else I could ask for!
+LexTheRanger VERY good motors, easily 250k mile engine with normal maintenance. Alright power, but as much torque as the first gen cummins. The truck in the video should be rated at ~300 hp and a little over 400 lb ft. The only downside is some of the early ones would shoot spark plugs through the hood, but its not a major problem. They use insane amounts of gas aswell, dont expect more then 12 mpg city 15 highway
scorpiosaturnring While the 8.1 might be better then a 6.8 at some things, it uses 2x the gas and the truck it comes in doesnt even have solid front axles...
For pulling power, id take a v10 6.8 over a stock 6bt cummins any day. The 6bt, or 1st gen cummins as poorly stated, didnt reach very far over 200 hp, where as the 6.8 is in the neighborhood of 300 hp. Simply saying that an engine makes 400 lb ft of torque with no regard to rpm means nothing, as torque is multiplied through gearing.
I have a 2001 f250 with that damn 6.8L in it. Gas hog to say the least but it can tug anything. I hope you locked the hubs and had it in 4 wheel. It’s not good to climb hills with that much weight on a 250 in 2 wheel drive. 4 wheel it wastes a lot more fuel especially with the v10 but it saves a huge mechanical issue waiting to happen. Even with a diesel. Always put it in 4x4 towing heavy weight climbing a steep grade
Reaper put in into the individual gear slots instead of leaving it in drive. In drive, the tc will remain unlocked when coasting. The 1 and 2 positions will lock the tc for engine braking.
scorpiosaturnring my 01 silverado 8.1l 4x4 with a 6 speed manual spun a rod bearing at 90k miles. back in 2007 it was still a young truck. I had just finished paying it off...
I agree I have a 2004 Chevy 3500 4x4 with the 8.1 with Allenson tranny 5 speed. What a workhorse bulletproof problem free of all gas engines. The military even puts the 8.1 in their trucks.
Not trying to sound arrogant, but it's always painful when I tow or watch a towing video of a gas truck. I only have diesels and even my 1988 7.3 idi is way faster than this with the same load. I actually like V10's though. Way more torque and as long as you don't drive them so hard you need a pyrometer and actually melt valve seals and guides they're really good.
You're underestimating how steep the hill was. Here's one we did three years prior with only 10,000 lbs and a 7.3L truck. ua-cam.com/video/CkCWMv3TaMk/v-deo.html
Where I live we have 25-30% grades. I've just highly modified the trucks I have. And my 7.3 idi actually way out pulls my 7.3 Powerstroke I've modified it so much.
It seems like they were holding the truck back at the bottom. Put it in drive and put the pedal to the floor before you hit the hill. The truck will never get going if trying to accelerate up hil
MtnDewAddict you would like my 2001 f250 then im running 425 hp at the crank 410 gear . pulls my 35 ft 5th wheel like a landscaping trailer. Lol.little mustangs and camaros dont like it when I pull up next to them .and walk away from them the 1st 100 ft. After that I just let off.lol
@@camoskill I've personally driven the v10 and 7.3 both towing thousands of pounds of windows and doors. I could care less what a UA-cam videos says. They're is a substantial difference in towing capabilities. Especially on hills. Who said the 6.2? I've also towed with the 6.2 it's trash all noise no power.
2:15 was extremely gratifying to hear.
Man that shift at 2:14 was gnarly.
Gotta love the sound of a V-10, I have a '99 Crew cab short bed I have only pulled a 30 camper with it though.
It's really cool knowing that this same Ford v10 can push a bus or RV....
I wonder if just by adding a 71 series supercharger to this engine you could easily move a 45' motorcoach down the road.... Albeit a few engine software and exhaust mods...... Without any forced induction this V10 already can move an RV or small bus so it should not be that hard to conceive....
@@rayologyxm it’s a shame that the 6.8 doesn’t have much aftermarket support
@rayologyxm I'm sure it could do it no problem. But it would sacrifice some reliability
Gotta love the sound the v10's make when they shift
Nick_7.3f250
Then you hit overdrive with 15K behind you it's like natalie portman instead of halle berry.
HELL YEAH
Terrible motor . If you want power get an 8.1 vortec makes this look like a joke
@@freedomlawnservice1987 I don't know why you say they are terrible,I own a 2002 F-450 with the 6.8L V10 and it has nearly 390,000 Miles on it,and no issues at all.The 2 Valve V10 with 325 HP/425 TQ is bulletproof and very durable,you sure as shit get nailed on how much gas they eat,but that's a no brain to figure out.The problem with the Vortec and even Hemi is that they get their peak starting at 3,000 RPM,with the Triton,it takes a good 2,500 RPM and then it takes off.I have gone as high as 4,000 RPM on a hill,but on a normal road I'm doing 2,500-2,700 RPM with any heavy cargo behind me.And then the 3 Valve V10 has even more at 362 HP/457 TQ.
I had a 2000 excursion 2wd. I put 4.30s and a banks tuner/cold air intake and jdm y pipe, it really woke it up. Ive since sold it and bought a 6.0 excursion and have been regretting it ever since. I've spent more on repairs on the 6.0 than I did on the entire v10 excursion, and the v10 pulled as good with less drama. A lot more gas though lol
after a year they finally reach the top
bep2001 kumar funny asf had me dead😭😂😂💀
I WANNA SEE ANY OTHER GAS ENGINE DO THAT....U KNOW IT DID A GOOD JOB RIGHT?
Actually at was two and a half minutes
That squirrelly steering is an old trade mark I guess. Lol. Mine does it too. Replaced entire front end and adjusted the gear box. Get a pro alignment. It helps to knock that way down, but still a bit of back and forth.
Nice, I highly doubt my 94 250 with the 351 would do that, Ive had a little more then 15k behind it on relatively flat roads for about 15 miles. Way past the old workhorses rating haha. My only gripe with the video is that we never saw the trailer!
Matt Pike I had a 95 F350 with the Windsor, and it would pull 15k with a little struggle at take off, but 70 mph was not hard to get to or hold. I used it pulling campers for FEMA, A 30ft double slide out was no problem, it would pull just as good as the7.3. I sold it with 250.000 miles on it and it pulled its whole life. was a damn good truck and very strong motor. I feel like the trans was better geared then the truck in this vid.
At 15k on a 3/4 ton, youd run outta rear end before you'd run outta engine with that 351
I have one f250 v10 2001 and I love it, also some school districts are using school bus with 6.8 v10.
RIP 7.3
What happened to the granny gear, do these newer trucks have it?
Gotta 2000 f250 with the v10 and 4.88s gears and a shorter tire help alot. I keeper in second and let her eat.
I don't think 3.55s were ever an option for a gas Super Duty. This truck had 3.73s.
I have to fight my steering on my 2000 Excursion XLT also. lol It's about time to break down and replace the steering box and whatever else
I would look into a Redhead Steering gearbox. I have one in my truck (my
truck is not the one in these videos) and it's been great.
I replaced the tie rod and tie rod end. I thought I had a strut popping while I was off road but a buddy seen the tie rod end jumping around. Replaced the entire thing and its like riding on a rail now. :D
Wow is that with 3.55 gears or 3.73?
2:15 that sounds gross but good at the same time
I got a 99 v10 f 250 pulled a load from pinehill Alabama to grants pass Oregon took 3 days pulling a 18 foot trailer full of everything out of my shop 4 tool boxes tire machine motor stands you name it it was a load NEVER A PROBLEM with 200,000 on motor family said it's a ford it would never make it never a doubt for me
Is your truck 2WD or 4WD?
3.73 and 4.10 were standard on the super duty trucks back then. Only way to get 3.55 was to put them in yourself. 10.50" rear end. The only thing this truck needs is the ZF6 manual. Would've done better on towing.
I spy a Minnesota license plate.
This bad boy is has been there done that.
aaaaaaaaannnnnndddd your o/d light starts flashing! haha I'm done with my 5.4 and 4r100. Weak when pulling on mountains. I have never felt confident in it because of that transmission.
Ford has the most efficient engine at taking gas or diesel and making noise
wow that crazy man
Is your F250 a 3 speed or 4 speed? My friend who has one says his 2000 V10 is a 3 speed, but literally every website says it's a 4 speed until 2003 when they started using 5 speeds (even Ford's website). I wanna hear it from you if it's a 3 speed or 4 speed.
It’s definitely a four-speed, Ford hasn’t produced a three speed transmission since 1996. The V-10 was exclusively paired to the 4R100 from 1999-2004.
LOL! Thats just beautiful. 15k. I'm looking at a 2000, 03, and 06 f350's.. I read that they gain hp and torque after 05, might be a selling factor.
Big Dan They did. They went from a 2v to a 3v head design in the 2005 model year.
2v V-10's make 310hp and 425lb/ft of torque.
3v V-10's make 355hp and 455lb/ft of torque.
+Nathan McDonald and a much better front end and transmission too.
Ended up picking up a 7.3 flatbed drw, loaded a 36' gooseneck trailer until the 12k rated tires went bulgey and the bed dropped about 3 inches when I rested the gooseneck on it.. I blew the front main seal on the auto trans on i40 through arizona, had it rebuilt and proceeded to lose 3rd gear in Tennessee.. couldn't find a truck with a manual, and I ended up paying for it. Now I'm pulling the parts together to swap the auto to 6 speed. Love that 7.3! Only running a programmer. Nothing else aftermarket that I'm aware of. Had no problems cruising 80 mph with that load on rolling hills passing everyone and everything.. Motor had no issues with the climb to 7000 ft elevation through az.. That trans though..
V10 4.30 diff ratios. I rev mine out to 6k 15k ain't much.
Try the 3V instead of the 2 and throw in 4.30 gears it will do much better
1:25 Driving by Chewbacca's house while he's gargling mouthwash in the bathroom
Look like the tach is at 2or 3k rpm , seem like you should be down in 1st holding like 4K rpm, right in that engines power band
they started in 1st gear, but eventually got moving fast enough for the next one. Thats just the way it is with a heavy load like that on somthing so small. Its a pickup not a semi. Imagine the diff this truck would do with an 18speed trans. You dont move as fast but everything is working much easier with an engine speed and road speed to match the load and grade.
Did this not have 4x4? If it did you should of put it in low.
how fast would an 1999 f250 7000 pounds uphill go?
FASTER ..I THINK THIS WAS AROUND 15K LBS
I know we could assume that the steering is bad but I think that the vehicle was overloaded at the tongue weight of the trailer. My guess is they just have quite a bit too much towards the front of the trailer which in turn is lifting up the front of the pick up so there is a loss of control over the steering which makes it pretty unsafe to be honest.
Either way, whether it is the overloading of the trailer tongue weight or there is a steering issue, I don't think they should be pulling this much weight if the steering issue is as bad as we can evidently see in the video.
That's not safe.
Painful to watch the steering corrections. Hope he got that fixed.
it produces somewhere between 350hp-362hp
310 HP for the 2v engines like this one.
Knew it was somewhere in the 300s
"Gauges are fine" Well duh, the gauges on that model year don't tell you a thing, they're just nice idiot lights.
I have a 99 f350 v10...it came factory with 4.30 gears. Pretty sure mine would do MUCH better than that. How much weight is behind you?
The trailer was about 15K. 4.30's would have for sure done better.
Monster4FTE
I have a '99 F-250 with 4.30's. I've had quite a bit more behind it, going uphill as well. It'll grunt a little harder than the diesel does but its no struggle like this truck went through.
Dude, the driver either had a stop sign before the incline, or lugged it in second for the video.
If you are hitting a big incline, you know the driver is all over the gas pedal earlier the better.
What was the water temp on that run there
+Ant Man I don't believe we had a gauge hooked up for this one.
Oh okay thanks anyway
Gotta love the modular fords completely gutless but the but indestructible especially the 2v 4.6, and 6.8 my personal opinion is gm had everyone whooped for years with the vortecs. The would run circles around Triton modulars. I dont get why ford detune some modulars to the point its dangerous they cant get out of their own way. I'm not bashing ford I just dont get that
Does it have Low Range?
+G55STEYR Yes, it had a low range, but it wasn't in use for this.
Wel for a test I guess you wanted to see if it climbs on Hugh but on low is better for the converter.
This really seems like you started in 2nd gear. 1st gear redlines at 43mph? There was not a shift before then that I heard.
It's definitely in 1st. The 4R100 has a relatively tall 2.71:1 first gear, compared to 3.9:1 for the modern 6-speed in use in the '11-present trucks. Less torque multiplication means it can run faster in first gear.
3.73 or 4.30?
I think its 3:73 for the v10 it's just that 4 speed transmission... the first gear is like a 2:93 or something vs today's standard is like 4:80 for the 10 speed trans from ford
The gear change from 1st to 2nd sounds like it has a huge RPM drop...
2idiot4u yeah, alot of 1 to 2 shifts in 4 and 5 speed autos create a huge rpm difference. The 4 and 5 speed autos the put in pickups were much better suited for the lower rpm diesels. Imo the gearing on them is just to far apart for the higher rpm of gassers. Finally though, they are starting to make trannys with close enough gears with the newer 8 and 10 speed autos.
You're lucky you didn't snap an axle or twist the driveshaft cause that's when those sorts of things happen
Was over drive off?
Automatic transmissions are governed and will never be in high od gear at that slow of a speed.
Did it look like they were going fast enough to make a difference?
I'm confused on how it struggled that much.
It’s hauling a 15,000LB Trailer
4.10 gears would help some
We need more of these in Ohio
Mainly cause I want one
In Oregon and there’s a clean AF one up here for 5500. I’ll bring to you
@@joeyhillers9460 I'm getting my uncle's 99 F250 with a Triton for my birthday. Six miles to the gallon, but loud enough to scare small animals and children. I dunno what else I could ask for!
@@tankurfacejr that's one hell of a birthday present. Wish I could get one lmfao
@@motormouth2472 Ehhhh It sucked and the frame snapped after a week, 304k miles Idk what to expect. XD
@@tankurfacejr lol. That's when you use it as a beater hahaha
Are these V10 good motors?
+LexTheRanger VERY good motors, easily 250k mile engine with normal maintenance. Alright power, but as much torque as the first gen cummins. The truck in the video should be rated at ~300 hp and a little over 400 lb ft. The only downside is some of the early ones would shoot spark plugs through the hood, but its not a major problem. They use insane amounts of gas aswell, dont expect more then 12 mpg city 15 highway
+Riley Kirk I'll take the 8.1l chevy bug block over this any day. what a sluuug.
scorpiosaturnring While the 8.1 might be better then a 6.8 at some things, it uses 2x the gas and the truck it comes in doesnt even have solid front axles...
The 8.1L would have struggled with this load all the same this V-10 is.
For pulling power, id take a v10 6.8 over a stock 6bt cummins any day. The 6bt, or 1st gen cummins as poorly stated, didnt reach very far over 200 hp, where as the 6.8 is in the neighborhood of 300 hp. Simply saying that an engine makes 400 lb ft of torque with no regard to rpm means nothing, as torque is multiplied through gearing.
Just bought one of these hope not this one.
Needs low range...
I have a 2001 f250 with that damn 6.8L in it. Gas hog to say the least but it can tug anything. I hope you locked the hubs and had it in 4 wheel. It’s not good to climb hills with that much weight on a 250 in 2 wheel drive. 4 wheel it wastes a lot more fuel especially with the v10 but it saves a huge mechanical issue waiting to happen. Even with a diesel. Always put it in 4x4 towing heavy weight climbing a steep grade
3/4 with an automatic is the most crappy setting ever, i dont expect an automatic to stop me going down a hill with a load
Reaper put in into the individual gear slots instead of leaving it in drive. In drive, the tc will remain unlocked when coasting. The 1 and 2 positions will lock the tc for engine braking.
Change your highway gears
You would get a little better results by manual shifting , holding rpms
Jesus Christ
That truck needs more gear. Way to slow accelerating up the hill. My 00 F450 that weighs 12K empty will drags 14K way better. Need some 4.88s
the 3v v10 was better your 2v is only 310hp 425lbs torque I got the same in my 02 excursion I wish it had the 3v 360hp 460lbs torque much better
+kirk0respite Put the 3V Along with 4.30 gears it will blow this away haha
I'll never trade my 01 silverado 2500HD with the 8.1l for any ford v10.
scorpiosaturnring my 01 silverado 8.1l 4x4 with a 6 speed manual spun a rod bearing at 90k miles. back in 2007 it was still a young truck. I had just finished paying it off...
@@jimmyg4186 lucky!
I agree I have a 2004 Chevy 3500 4x4 with the 8.1 with Allenson tranny 5 speed. What a workhorse bulletproof problem free of all gas engines. The military even puts the 8.1 in their trucks.
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Fix your alignment
You shouldn't be driving that fast like that with all that weight and those sma road's
Ecoboost did better. Impressive.
uhhh... woohoo?
Not trying to sound arrogant, but it's always painful when I tow or watch a towing video of a gas truck. I only have diesels and even my 1988 7.3 idi is way faster than this with the same load. I actually like V10's though. Way more torque and as long as you don't drive them so hard you need a pyrometer and actually melt valve seals and guides they're really good.
You're underestimating how steep the hill was. Here's one we did three years prior with only 10,000 lbs and a 7.3L truck.
ua-cam.com/video/CkCWMv3TaMk/v-deo.html
Where I live we have 25-30% grades. I've just highly modified the trucks I have. And my 7.3 idi actually way out pulls my 7.3 Powerstroke I've modified it so much.
It seems like they were holding the truck back at the bottom. Put it in drive and put the pedal to the floor before you hit the hill. The truck will never get going if trying to accelerate up hil
MtnDewAddict you would like my 2001 f250 then im running 425 hp at the crank 410 gear . pulls my 35 ft 5th wheel like a landscaping trailer. Lol.little mustangs and camaros dont like it when I pull up next to them .and walk away from them the 1st 100 ft. After that I just let off.lol
Would like to see a stock 7.3 do the same hill with same load. Haha, who am I kidding, there ain't no stock 7.3s left is there?
fail
Stock motors suck
Well this is comical. This is why you don't get a gas engine in a 3/4 ton pickup. Should of got the 7.3.
Have you watched the 7.3 do the same trailer up the same hill?
Not much better. If even better at all.
Watch the video of the 6.2L V8 F-350...It handled this hill in stride.
The 8.1 Chevy/GMC is the best big block gas motor for pulling, it will pull that hill as good as the 7.3 Ford if not better.
3.5 ecoboost will do better?
@@camoskill I've personally driven the v10 and 7.3 both towing thousands of pounds of windows and doors. I could care less what a UA-cam videos says. They're is a substantial difference in towing capabilities. Especially on hills. Who said the 6.2? I've also towed with the 6.2 it's trash all noise no power.