You know, I ordered the full set and after seeing them ship this week I was having my doubts. Thankfully, this totally honest take assured me I've purchased what might be some of the best enamels ever made.
What are the odds. I just ordered some Wargames Atlantic kits to kitbash and the full set of these all for the sole purpose of painting them for Trench Crusade!
Thank you for this video DAW I can't wait till I can get my hands on these. You can really tell, from Instagram posts etc, that these have been made with passion and love for this hobby. Cheers guys
I think so. I had multiple, hours long conversations with Zatcaskagoon about the project in a span of a year now. I know he has put immense love in these. Of course he asked me to make it a honest video, and I pointed out what I think could be better from my subjective point of view. But I received a bunch of messages telling me that they love how subtle Sector Rust is, and that they prefer the more forgiving working time. So that makes me think, how much our taste can vary!
I have definitely found it difficult to use ichor of the damned and goon's grime so far. I did mix with some mineral spirits and it seemed to not cover that heavily but also dried really glossy. Even two coats of AK ultra matte hasn't killed the gloss in the recesses.. I think I need to spend some more time to practice but dilute it more and build up layers per the vid. I get the sense these are not the heavy handed, quick and dirty tools like some of the AK washes we are used to. More skill but perhaps ultimately more control and modulation.
Lovely video, quite informative. I like that the paints have somewhat differing material characteristics and are not just different shades of the main competing brands. Goon is bringing a genuinely new product to the market and I'm very curious to try it out.
Great video, and actually honest. You don't see that much these days. While I'm a fan of AK's stuff thanks to this channel, I likely won't get a whole set - but maybe goons grime and the ichor of the damned!
These look and sound amazing! I'll defiantly have to pick some up as I love the way you have painted those minis. Out of interest which one out of the set is your favourite?
I would say the Goon's Grime + Carrion Crimson combo is unbeatable. Grimdark flesh in no time and fun to do. Goon's Grime is pretty much the most versatile and easy to use. Carrion Crimson requires a little bit more attention as it's a Flesh Effect. If you go to the Grimdark Compendium you can find a Resource Page where you can find all the info, how-to's, and free video tutorial demos for every Villainy Ink paint so you can see what you like best, if you're unsure.
This video is absolutely a must-watch before utilizing this paint range. I know that I would have been very upset going in to using them, and discovering blindly that they don't behave like other enamels. They require a bit of setup and delicate use, it seems, instead of just being a slather-n-wipe range. That being said, I'm extremely excited to get my set and use them. Even the mild rust effects will be a welcome addition, so I can have a more subtle effect when I want it. Especially compared to how aggressive Dirty Down rust is, it'll be nice to also have a more subtle option.
Eh I know what you're talking about! But at the end, if you think about it, that's how we felt years ago when we tried enamels for the first time. This is like a new beginning, learning something new, or rather - using our knowledge to make use of a similar product that has a slightly different behavior. I mean, they feel familiar anyway. But indeed can't be used with the same exact "go to town" mentality. Absolutely, I actually think the Sector Rust hue is great, and what you say there is totally true. Using ONLY Dirty Down blows away any element of subtlety.
Thanks for the review. I will start painting my vampire counts army as soon as my white primer is delivered, because GW Grey Seer seems to be too dark IMO. Can't wait for it to begin.
I have yet to try out the inks (they grin at me from across the table as I type), but this showcase already gives me confidence with their application. I've been holding on my Flesh Eaters project until they arrive, and I'm looking forward to trying them out for the skin especially! Thanks for the in-depth video.
perfect, exactly what i needed before my batch of villainy inks is arriving (and the monster minis i intend to paint with it) keep them ink tutorials coming :D
Right? What's your experience? I had quite a few people reaching out to me after they watched the video, and they told me they disagree with my critique of Sector Rust. So that's all a matter of taste I guess! Yes they need some time to get used to.
Great tutorial from somebody giving an honest review of first time use. Irons out problems for the rest of us. My head says yes to these enamels but my bank balance says no. Then my head says yes again but I might wait until the current orders have been sent.
General question, but is an odourless thinner an OK substitute for mineral/white spirit? I've seen other places recommend it, but never heard it mentioned on Grimdark Compendium?
I really like the texture most of all. It gives a realistic grime that just seems too efficient not to try, especially since the price is right. How do the paints react to acrylic paint or contrast medium going over them? I know some enamels and inks can reactivate, so I'd like to know my order of operations before trying it out.
If let dry properly, there's no issue coming over with acrylics or contrast paints. Enamels can be removed with water (with a very particular effect) but that happens if you really go there with lots of water and do your absolute best to remove them. However as I was saying if you let your enamel layers dry, you'll have no issues at all.
Question for you guys: you use qtips to pull enamel off, do reusable ones work or is there a workable substitute for qtips? Trying to find something that doesn't fall apart so easy and leave bits behind
Looks good… But never used enamels so far. I use oil colours and white spirit to mix the washes I need, in the consistency I need them. So I’m curious about your product. Can you please tell me if there is any difference between them and oil washes and what makes it so special? What’s the fuzz all about, because it seems everyone can’t await to get this stuff? 😅 It can’t be only because of the cool label and bottle layouts.
Of course! Oils and enamels share some similarities. Like mixing with Mineral spirits for example, and they can both be used to create either crevice washes or filters, and them removed. However enamels have fast drying times under a blow dryer, they typically dry matte, and they leave a "grainy" effect. Enamel filters/washes let you have a granular level of control over the removal as you see in the video. Also, some of these enamels are more technical (like the flesh washes) and contain stray pigments, dry satin, and other nuances like that. Oils are great! As you can use them dry or mix them how you want. However it's a different product. And even thinned down, an oil wash won't give you the same level of rendition and control that an enamel gives you
Hey mate nice vid! I pre ordered a batch of these paints so hopefully they arrive soon. I really like the mottled texture from the cool and warm skin washes you got. Just had question about painting in this style, does it translate to an army eg like playing on tt during the day or in a well lit hall or the like? Or does the effect get too washed out when it’s not surrounded by dark background? Cheers
Thank you! I play skirmish and wargames and I often use the miniatures I paint for the tutorials. With surface finish variation I find that the models really get more noticeable on the table. However it's always important to integrate some elements in the miniature that will be the main focus (from a modeling and painting standpoint) so they'll look distinguishable in all environments.
Ahh gotcha, yeah I see this grimdark style on yt tutorials or showcases but I’ve never seen it out in the wild yunno. While it does look awesome with a dark background and correct lighting it always gives me pause to try it on an entire army but I see what your saying about a focal point or points, maybe I’ll try on a necromunda gang or similar before a whole army! Keep the vids coming mate there very informative and you explain yourself well 👏
Yes. Ecspeically when the rest of the line comes out. The color range will be modeled after popular acrylic wash lines. The main difference will be that Villainy Ink Enamels can be removed/cleaned up with the reductive technique.
Just discovered grim dark and love the look. Are these similar to AK Special Wash or AK Enamel Color? I wasn’t sure exactly the difference between the two.
Well this is just freaking awesome. Shipping notice ✔️. The cheapskate in me is super pumped that the product lends well to dilution. I am so stinking excited to get mine in the mail.
I am still a little bit confused about the product. Is this an oil wash or an ink with mediums to behave like oil + mineral spirits? How long is the drying time? How long can you reactivate it (blend or remove with qtip)? Thanks in advance!
No problem! These are enamel washes. They share some similarities with oil washes, but are different. The drying time depends on the amount of mineral spirits used when mixing. If mixed properly it dries within seconds under a hair dryer, so immensely faster than an oil wash. Reactivating time varies but it's pretty long and forgiving. Of course there's difference between dry and cure. So when it's dry (seconds/minutes, with a hair dryer), it can be reactivated very easily. As it starts the curing process (24+ hours) it's gonna be harder to reactivate but still possible if you want to a degree. And when it's fully cured it's gonna stay there, unless you come with some very aggressive solvent like Isopropyl Alcohol 99%.
@@DarkAgesWorkshop I purchased the full range (except rust) and have been running tests on these products. I am having issues with curing. When visibly dry, the surface quality becomes powdery and rubs off with very light touch. Bad for gaming. I have a test model that has been drying for multiple days and is still wet to touch. My recent test bits have dried for 3 hours and the powdery surface is the results. Are you able to confirm that the products continue to dry and harden past the powdery surface quality stage?
Goon's Grime is definitely sticky and oily. I've tried thinning with mineral spirits, but it doesn't make it not sticky, just thinner. Still, it does look great.
@@GrimdarkCompendium I do have a mixer. I'm still experimenting. Some of the models I tested on were not thinned and just shaken. So I'm still dealing with those. I'm testing some more stuff with well shaken and thinned Grime. I do wonder if the sticky stuff just needs more curing time.
Those videos have always been a part of the membership on my website, and we are making all new content with updated techniques and applications for UA-cam.
You don't have to. People saying that "enamels chips the acrylic paint underneath" is because they are to harsh with the reductive technique: q-tips are pretty abrasive, so you have to be gentle. Enamels have no interactions with acrylics.
Been testing the inks for a a few days, but I’m still getting a lot more glossy finishes with ichor and goons, especially in recesses. I mix them about 2:1 ink and abt502 odorless thinner and it is already pretty light. Does this happen because of too thick layers at once from the airbrush? I’m used to blasting the mini with ak enamels
Yeah, also make sure to clear the pipette and shake the hell out of them. A cortex mixer is highly recommended. Ifnapplying through an airbrush, do light layers. They are not heavy effects like ak and are meant to be used more lightly.
I got my inks in the post and have tried them on a Khorne bloodletter, they are loads of fun, however they do seem to be taking a long time to dry, it's been a couple of days and still not dry, i'm assuming thats normal given the nature of the medium though? First impressions are very positive.
I purchased the full range (except rust) and have been running tests on these products. I am having issues with curing. When visibly dry, the surface quality becomes powdery and rubs off with very light touch. Bad for gaming. I have a test model that has been drying for multiple days and is still wet to touch. My recent test bits have dried for 3 hours and the powdery surface is the results. Are you able to confirm that the products continue to dry and harden past the powdery surface quality stage?
Do you have batch 1 or 2? Batch 1 is indicated by the craft boxes they came in, and batch 2 has full art boxes. In either case, it sounds like a mixing issue. I suggest a vortex mixer. By design, the Decay of Death should dry very powdery and should be used in conjunction with a pigment fixer if you want to stick to surfaces.
I think I received a mix of batch 1 and batch 2. Some had stickers that didn’t cover the full box and some covered the full box. I have a vortex mixture and have mixed extensively as well as clear all clogs in dropper nozzles. I have taken detailed notes of my process. My intention is to send you an email in full detail along with photographs. Tried multiple different methods of working with the product to achieve a safe to touch result but no success so far.
Have tested the full range as well for more clarity: Carrion Crimson, Coelia Green, Dystopian Brown, Ichor of the Damned, Decay of Death and Goon’s Grime.
Are you in the Discord? Just posted my own tests of Goon's Grime batch 2 with various levels of thinning and drying. I'd like you to take a look and try to replicate if you have Batch 2 Goon's Grime
I see a lot of interesting mottling done with brush, as well as feathering. Dark Ages mentions using a clean brush, does that mean that the mottling/feathering is done WITHOUT white spirits? I.e. like with oils?
Mostly WITHOUT. However on the Trench Crusade miniature, after the Goon's Grime q-tip mineral spirit removal, I did a very short sneaky pass with a brush slightly dampened (unloaded 90% of wet agent on my glove). It comes as a natural process. It's really enjoyable, but mostly, I do it with a clean and dry soft brush.
@@DarkAgesWorkshop Thanks for the advice, I thought that was the case. I will need to experiment with the reactivation times as well, see what we can get.
You know, I ordered the full set and after seeing them ship this week I was having my doubts. Thankfully, this totally honest take assured me I've purchased what might be some of the best enamels ever made.
Hope you enjoy them, when they arrive.
I've been putting off painting my trench crusade minis for these inks... now i cant wait!
Awesome!
Hope you like them!
What are the odds. I just ordered some Wargames Atlantic kits to kitbash and the full set of these all for the sole purpose of painting them for Trench Crusade!
Thank you for this video DAW I can't wait till I can get my hands on these. You can really tell, from Instagram posts etc, that these have been made with passion and love for this hobby. Cheers guys
I think so. I had multiple, hours long conversations with Zatcaskagoon about the project in a span of a year now.
I know he has put immense love in these.
Of course he asked me to make it a honest video, and I pointed out what I think could be better from my subjective point of view.
But I received a bunch of messages telling me that they love how subtle Sector Rust is, and that they prefer the more forgiving working time.
So that makes me think, how much our taste can vary!
Got my shipping notice today, my flesh eater courts are so excited to be getting the grim treatment
!! Hope you enjoy them!
I have definitely found it difficult to use ichor of the damned and goon's grime so far. I did mix with some mineral spirits and it seemed to not cover that heavily but also dried really glossy. Even two coats of AK ultra matte hasn't killed the gloss in the recesses.. I think I need to spend some more time to practice but dilute it more and build up layers per the vid. I get the sense these are not the heavy handed, quick and dirty tools like some of the AK washes we are used to. More skill but perhaps ultimately more control and modulation.
Lovely video, quite informative. I like that the paints have somewhat differing material characteristics and are not just different shades of the main competing brands. Goon is bringing a genuinely new product to the market and I'm very curious to try it out.
Thank you! Yes. Definitely just not a copy.
Great video, and actually honest. You don't see that much these days.
While I'm a fan of AK's stuff thanks to this channel, I likely won't get a whole set - but maybe goons grime and the ichor of the damned!
Thank you immensely! Yeah. Feedback has been heard and new colored enamel washes are on queue.
These look and sound amazing! I'll defiantly have to pick some up as I love the way you have painted those minis. Out of interest which one out of the set is your favourite?
I would say the Goon's Grime + Carrion Crimson combo is unbeatable. Grimdark flesh in no time and fun to do. Goon's Grime is pretty much the most versatile and easy to use. Carrion Crimson requires a little bit more attention as it's a Flesh Effect.
If you go to the Grimdark Compendium you can find a Resource Page where you can find all the info, how-to's, and free video tutorial demos for every Villainy Ink paint so you can see what you like best, if you're unsure.
@@DarkAgesWorkshop Thanks so much, really appreciate it! They sound great, I'll definitely check out the compendium and look more into it.
This video is absolutely a must-watch before utilizing this paint range. I know that I would have been very upset going in to using them, and discovering blindly that they don't behave like other enamels.
They require a bit of setup and delicate use, it seems, instead of just being a slather-n-wipe range.
That being said, I'm extremely excited to get my set and use them. Even the mild rust effects will be a welcome addition, so I can have a more subtle effect when I want it. Especially compared to how aggressive Dirty Down rust is, it'll be nice to also have a more subtle option.
Eh I know what you're talking about! But at the end, if you think about it, that's how we felt years ago when we tried enamels for the first time.
This is like a new beginning, learning something new, or rather - using our knowledge to make use of a similar product that has a slightly different behavior.
I mean, they feel familiar anyway. But indeed can't be used with the same exact "go to town" mentality.
Absolutely, I actually think the Sector Rust hue is great, and what you say there is totally true. Using ONLY Dirty Down blows away any element of subtlety.
Finally, a great tutorial / review, thank you!
Extremely useful tutorial! I intend to order and use the inks for my Vampire Counts army. These tips will go a long way!
The trench crusade anti material sniper looks awesome.
Thanks for the review. I will start painting my vampire counts army as soon as my white primer is delivered, because GW Grey Seer seems to be too dark IMO. Can't wait for it to begin.
Sold! I was unsure if it was worth adding to my set. Thanks for the application method, looks epic.
I have yet to try out the inks (they grin at me from across the table as I type), but this showcase already gives me confidence with their application. I've been holding on my Flesh Eaters project until they arrive, and I'm looking forward to trying them out for the skin especially! Thanks for the in-depth video.
Hope you have fun with them!
You're welcome! That Goon's Grime and Carrion Crimson blend is so easy, fast and cool. Perfect for FEC.
Ordered the full set from Element Games, apparently they will be ready for dispatch next week, I'm stoked. Thanks for this detailed deep dive!
Ordered 4 of these (Goons Grime, Ichor of the Damned, Carrion Crimson & Coelia Green) from Element Games in the UK, excited.
perfect, exactly what i needed before my batch of villainy inks is arriving (and the monster minis i intend to paint with it) keep them ink tutorials coming :D
Absolutely will do! Lots of projects in the oven.
Many thanks for the review! Looking forward to getting mine!
Hope you enjoy them!
Appreciate some of the tips & suggestions. Just used Dystopian Brown on one of my tanks to create some oil streaks…
Ordering the full set when i get paid next, after seeing this im sold genuinely, i love that crimson with the green cant wait to try them
Awesome! Thank you!
Got my Inks, they take some getting used to.. but lord are they fun. Defenitly impressed with the products.
Right? What's your experience?
I had quite a few people reaching out to me after they watched the video, and they told me they disagree with my critique of Sector Rust. So that's all a matter of taste I guess!
Yes they need some time to get used to.
I got my shipping notice yesterday. I am counting the hours man! These will be my new go to enamels!
Have fun! Hope you enjoy them.
@@GrimdarkCompendium thanks, I'll be tagging you on insta with the minis
Great tutorial from somebody giving an honest review of first time use. Irons out problems for the rest of us. My head says yes to these enamels but my bank balance says no. Then my head says yes again but I might wait until the current orders have been sent.
Thank you deeply.
These are hard times indeed... Villainy Inks are always there. Take your time!
the way you say 'mineral' got me all spiced up
Can't wait to get these. Seems like I ordered them so long ago.
"It already looks disgusting" 😂 looking forward to receiving my batch. Great job
General question, but is an odourless thinner an OK substitute for mineral/white spirit? I've seen other places recommend it, but never heard it mentioned on Grimdark Compendium?
Its minéral spirit buddy. Juste oderless.
@@mitsui76 And still not breathable.
I really like the texture most of all. It gives a realistic grime that just seems too efficient not to try, especially since the price is right. How do the paints react to acrylic paint or contrast medium going over them? I know some enamels and inks can reactivate, so I'd like to know my order of operations before trying it out.
If let dry properly, there's no issue coming over with acrylics or contrast paints. Enamels can be removed with water (with a very particular effect) but that happens if you really go there with lots of water and do your absolute best to remove them. However as I was saying if you let your enamel layers dry, you'll have no issues at all.
i’m looking forward to using these on my AOS flesh eater courts and kruelboyz
Awesome! Let us know how you get on with them.
Question for you guys: you use qtips to pull enamel off, do reusable ones work or is there a workable substitute for qtips? Trying to find something that doesn't fall apart so easy and leave bits behind
@samueljackson605 try different things out. I prefer regular qtips, but know that others use makeup sponges
@@GrimdarkCompendium thank you, pro tip.
Mine arrived today! Can’t wait to use them on my Westfalia miniatures!
Nice!!! Everything good with the packaging and bottles?
Yes! Took me a minute to figure out how to open one 😅. Closed it back up but the cap keeps turning. Is it supposed to?
@@ew1258 The caps are child safe! You need to push downwards and rotate to open them.
Looks good… But never used enamels so far. I use oil colours and white spirit to mix the washes I need, in the consistency I need them. So I’m curious about your product.
Can you please tell me if there is any difference between them and oil washes and what makes it so special? What’s the fuzz all about, because it seems everyone can’t await to get this stuff? 😅 It can’t be only because of the cool label and bottle layouts.
Of course! Oils and enamels share some similarities. Like mixing with Mineral spirits for example, and they can both be used to create either crevice washes or filters, and them removed.
However enamels have fast drying times under a blow dryer, they typically dry matte, and they leave a "grainy" effect.
Enamel filters/washes let you have a granular level of control over the removal as you see in the video.
Also, some of these enamels are more technical (like the flesh washes) and contain stray pigments, dry satin, and other nuances like that.
Oils are great! As you can use them dry or mix them how you want. However it's a different product. And even thinned down, an oil wash won't give you the same level of rendition and control that an enamel gives you
@@DarkAgesWorkshop thanks for the reply and explanation. I think I´m gonna give this a try soon. ;)
when my bundle says V3.0 is it the latest Batch or the previous Batch? Because I ordered them yesterday at PK-PRO
@leeroynilsbreuer pk pro has three final versions, though it may have old leftover packaging.
Hey mate nice vid! I pre ordered a batch of these paints so hopefully they arrive soon. I really like the mottled texture from the cool and warm skin washes you got. Just had question about painting in this style, does it translate to an army eg like playing on tt during the day or in a well lit hall or the like? Or does the effect get too washed out when it’s not surrounded by dark background? Cheers
Thank you!
I play skirmish and wargames and I often use the miniatures I paint for the tutorials. With surface finish variation I find that the models really get more noticeable on the table.
However it's always important to integrate some elements in the miniature that will be the main focus (from a modeling and painting standpoint) so they'll look distinguishable in all environments.
Ahh gotcha, yeah I see this grimdark style on yt tutorials or showcases but I’ve never seen it out in the wild yunno. While it does look awesome with a dark background and correct lighting it always gives me pause to try it on an entire army but I see what your saying about a focal point or points, maybe I’ll try on a necromunda gang or similar before a whole army! Keep the vids coming mate there very informative and you explain yourself well 👏
Interesting, but does it lend well for non-Grimdark application?
An orc, a paladin in shiny metal, a person wearing colourful cloths ... ?
Yes. Ecspeically when the rest of the line comes out. The color range will be modeled after popular acrylic wash lines. The main difference will be that Villainy Ink Enamels can be removed/cleaned up with the reductive technique.
@@GrimdarkCompendium: Thank you.
So this is outdated? I was going to buy the ones explained here as good ones... so? I need help! :)
Just discovered grim dark and love the look. Are these similar to AK Special Wash or AK Enamel Color? I wasn’t sure exactly the difference between the two.
Well this is just freaking awesome. Shipping notice ✔️. The cheapskate in me is super pumped that the product lends well to dilution. I am so stinking excited to get mine in the mail.
Right on! Hope you like them!
I am still a little bit confused about the product. Is this an oil wash or an ink with mediums to behave like oil + mineral spirits? How long is the drying time? How long can you reactivate it (blend or remove with qtip)? Thanks in advance!
No problem! These are enamel washes. They share some similarities with oil washes, but are different.
The drying time depends on the amount of mineral spirits used when mixing. If mixed properly it dries within seconds under a hair dryer, so immensely faster than an oil wash.
Reactivating time varies but it's pretty long and forgiving. Of course there's difference between dry and cure.
So when it's dry (seconds/minutes, with a hair dryer), it can be reactivated very easily.
As it starts the curing process (24+ hours) it's gonna be harder to reactivate but still possible if you want to a degree.
And when it's fully cured it's gonna stay there, unless you come with some very aggressive solvent like Isopropyl Alcohol 99%.
@@DarkAgesWorkshop I purchased the full range (except rust) and have been running tests on these products. I am having issues with curing. When visibly dry, the surface quality becomes powdery and rubs off with very light touch. Bad for gaming.
I have a test model that has been drying for multiple days and is still wet to touch.
My recent test bits have dried for 3 hours and the powdery surface is the results.
Are you able to confirm that the products continue to dry and harden past the powdery surface quality stage?
Goon's Grime is definitely sticky and oily. I've tried thinning with mineral spirits, but it doesn't make it not sticky, just thinner.
Still, it does look great.
Do you have batch 2? We've adjusted it since this video
@@GrimdarkCompendium Just got them as a gift and they are in newer boxes.
@is042688 Try reading this and make sure to use a vortex mixer so they are mixed well. grimdarkcompendium.com/villainy-ink-resource-page/
@@GrimdarkCompendium I do have a mixer. I'm still experimenting. Some of the models I tested on were not thinned and just shaken. So I'm still dealing with those. I'm testing some more stuff with well shaken and thinned Grime.
I do wonder if the sticky stuff just needs more curing time.
Just a question, is there a reason why you removed so many of your old videos? Or locked a bunch of your old ones behind members-only?
Those videos have always been a part of the membership on my website, and we are making all new content with updated techniques and applications for UA-cam.
I just finished building up and basing some Flesh Eater Courts…. Hmmmmmm….
I have a cool skin recipe for flesh eater courts that uses these enamels. Check out it. A few video back.
Will do!
I feel like the carrion crimson might go really well over gold armour? I've ordered a few bottles already just waiting for that UK shipping date
Do you usually varnish your miniatures before applying enamels to protect the paint from removing ?
You can but it shouldn't be needed. Check out our last video it goes into great detail about varnishes.
You don't have to. People saying that "enamels chips the acrylic paint underneath" is because they are to harsh with the reductive technique: q-tips are pretty abrasive, so you have to be gentle. Enamels have no interactions with acrylics.
@@Ivan-sr4gq I'll second what this guy said.
Just let everything really dry out, be extra gentle, patient and you'll get the hang of it.
great vid! one question what type of spirits are you using to dilute these enamels?
I am from europe, where can I buy the nre batch? PK PRO doesn't explain what I am buying...
All distribution partners have the current batch 2
@@GrimdarkCompendium thanks Will buy a full set today!!!
Been testing the inks for a a few days, but I’m still getting a lot more glossy finishes with ichor and goons, especially in recesses. I mix them about 2:1 ink and abt502 odorless thinner and it is already pretty light. Does this happen because of too thick layers at once from the airbrush? I’m used to blasting the mini with ak enamels
Yeah, also make sure to clear the pipette and shake the hell out of them. A cortex mixer is highly recommended. Ifnapplying through an airbrush, do light layers. They are not heavy effects like ak and are meant to be used more lightly.
I got my inks in the post and have tried them on a Khorne bloodletter, they are loads of fun, however they do seem to be taking a long time to dry, it's been a couple of days and still not dry, i'm assuming thats normal given the nature of the medium though? First impressions are very positive.
Make sure you are shaking them really well and thinning well with mineral spirits.
I purchased the full range (except rust) and have been running tests on these products. I am having issues with curing. When visibly dry, the surface quality becomes powdery and rubs off with very light touch. Bad for gaming.
I have a test model that has been drying for multiple days and is still wet to touch.
My recent test bits have dried for 3 hours and the powdery surface is the results.
Are you able to confirm that the products continue to dry and harden past the powdery surface quality stage?
Do you have batch 1 or 2? Batch 1 is indicated by the craft boxes they came in, and batch 2 has full art boxes. In either case, it sounds like a mixing issue. I suggest a vortex mixer. By design, the Decay of Death should dry very powdery and should be used in conjunction with a pigment fixer if you want to stick to surfaces.
I think I received a mix of batch 1 and batch 2. Some had stickers that didn’t cover the full box and some covered the full box.
I have a vortex mixture and have mixed extensively as well as clear all clogs in dropper nozzles. I have taken detailed notes of my process. My intention is to send you an email in full detail along with photographs. Tried multiple different methods of working with the product to achieve a safe to touch result but no success so far.
Have tested the full range as well for more clarity: Carrion Crimson, Coelia Green, Dystopian Brown, Ichor of the Damned, Decay of Death and Goon’s Grime.
@@spooker1416 sounds good. I'll look forward to that.
Are you in the Discord? Just posted my own tests of Goon's Grime batch 2 with various levels of thinning and drying. I'd like you to take a look and try to replicate if you have Batch 2 Goon's Grime
I see a lot of interesting mottling done with brush, as well as feathering. Dark Ages mentions using a clean brush, does that mean that the mottling/feathering is done WITHOUT white spirits? I.e. like with oils?
Mostly WITHOUT. However on the Trench Crusade miniature, after the Goon's Grime q-tip mineral spirit removal, I did a very short sneaky pass with a brush slightly dampened (unloaded 90% of wet agent on my glove). It comes as a natural process. It's really enjoyable, but mostly, I do it with a clean and dry soft brush.
@@DarkAgesWorkshop Thanks for the advice, I thought that was the case. I will need to experiment with the reactivation times as well, see what we can get.
Are the flecks on the carrion and coelia an intended feature or an QC issue?
I heard from him and they're absolutely intended, to create variations on surfaces. However, there's a method to avoid them, if unwanted.
Intended for Mottling purposes. If you want to avoid them you can do so on your palette.
Cool. Thanks for the reply guys.
Hmmm for some reason my goons grim doesnt look grimy when it dries but looks dusty. Applied exactly as you suggested. Not sure what im doing wrong 🤔
Goon's Grime should dry matte when thinned. Try using less or no thinner. And shake the bottle very well. Use a vortex mixer if you have it.
@@GrimdarkCompendium Thank you, for the advice I'll give it a shot.
What is the mini you used for the airbrush test?
From BloodBorne
Do you mean from 15:42 ? That's a Communicant from Trench Crusade.
Do u have to varnish those after they dried?
i wonder what the lead time is from order to shipping on these inks
Currently 10-15 daYS
@@GrimdarkCompendium I order end of last month and still not heard or received anything
Where did you get that big guy with a gun?
Trench Crusade first Kickstarter.
But don't worry. A new Kickstarter is coming out with a full boxed game with rules and miniatures.
Keeps refreshing email, refreshing the orders page. I’d refresh the mail man, but I think that’s assault in most parts. 😅
Ahah, No! They'll arrive soon I'm confident. Enjoy the wait while putting yourself in the right mood.
Ah boi I got ill. What did I miss?
Looks cool. 👍
enamel washes are the best !!!!!
TRUE!
I want them so bad but shipping to Australia is STEEP
Check with Grimdark Gaming
@@GrimdarkCompendium Appreciate the heads up, they're on the way :D
Guys I am still waiting for a reply for my order confirmation.
Send again or DM me on social. I've responded to all the emails I have.
Nice!!!
Thank you!
Why is it outdated?
New batch.
Totally honest review....these guys aren't affiliated at all 😂
That doesn't mean he cant be honest. All the feedback he gave me directly is mentioned in this video.
You buy it, you test it, and you will see that it's incomparable!
It's all RIGGED!!!
Nah, watch the video. I have indeed something to say.
@@DarkAgesWorkshop Why " it's all rigged " ?
@@oveiron_prime Ahah. I was being ironic there.
I ordered my full set last year and am very excited to grimdark my orks, looks like I won't be running out as it seems to go very far!!!grimdark4dayz
Goons grime 💀
nice vid
Ty ty
Nah, nothing new i cannot do with an oil wash and i hate the texture they leave behind.
I like the review but the incredibly over dramatic cadence of voice and tone of video was a little much and I really wanted to stop watching.
Oops, this was my absolute most casual, least dramatic talking possible🤣Can't do anything about it except forcing myself to make it different!
How can you not love this man's voice! It makes me swoon!
The dramatic cadence and tone of the video is why the rest of us are here. If you want bright vanilla takes go watch goobertown
Unfortunately Bela Lugosi was not available but this was close.
I’m waiting for the DaW & GdC creepy bedtime stories release.
First😂
😂
@@GrimdarkCompendium in all seriousness, the video was awesome after watching! 💯