You should make another video on the other side of things “don’t over charge for a Grom”. Most Grom owners don’t know how devaluation works, your 2015 6k mile Grom ain’t work 3.2k even with mods.
Well this video is probably being watched by sellers too. If they don’t get their $3.2k maybe they will figure it out. I dunno it’s a tough pill for some people to swallow when going to sell. Best advise is part every mod out and return the grom to stock. You’ll maximize your return.
I have no qualms about buying a used grom but all of them for sale around me are asking way over the price of a new one so new one for me it is. Also the new ones have a 5th gear and few other changes anyway. Was gonna buy a new 2020 from a dealership but they wouldn't honor the 400 rebate listed on the honda website so the difference to a 22 is 200 bucks. Might as well get the new one for that little difference.
I WISH people around my area would watch this. All the used groms are priced at 3000-3500 and it’s because they dumped 1k into aftermarket parts. I’ve tried so hard to negotiate and I always get “I know what it’s worth.” So stupid!!
You must be in florida. Every single person is a con artist or scamer, sack of shit. Fb market place is asking for 2k for a bike with rust no tires missing half the engine and no wheels so that's like all the other ones on market place. Also if they have an actual bike that works they have like 80k- 100k miles. I want out of this shity state. God I can't wait. Hope this state falls in the ocean with everyone.
Great video! I bought my ‘15 in ‘17 for $2,400. Had just under 400 miles on it. Guy only used it to go a few miles each day to and from college. Completely stock and never abused. Seemed like a good deal to me. Bike is still running strong today!
There were others cheaper in my area, but they were higher mileage and clearly had been less cared for. I’m pretty happy with what I got. And yeah that blue bike was sharp!
Yup buddy of mine got a OG 2014 garage kept exhaust and fender delete and bars on it 400miles 2k and I just got my 2019 for 3400 in May brand new lol I was like damnnnnnnn but it’s all good both having good times now cheers
Used OG grom usually sold around RM5000 (Around $1200+) when it available to sale. Pretty rare. Used AF model start around $1.6k to $2.1K here in Malaysia. Yea, overprice used grom exist. Its better just a buy a new one. New 2019/2020 model price at $2.8k (including tax+insurance). Most people I know, import their grom directly from Thailand. Brand new cost only $2.2k.
@@warrenblood7710 I think the point is to treat all sellers as liars, as it is not uncommon for someone selling a used vehicle to lie about it's condition to make it easier to sell. I know it's happened to me in the past. 👍
Yes okay I was watching this thinking “Where is this man finding so Groms for under 3k” in California I have never found anything under 2.5k and anything under 3k is rare.
I was trying to buy that white grom in inverness with the power commander. I had to wait til after work to drive out there and someone snaked it from me. Now i know who that is.
I’m new to the riding world, period. Was going to look at a regular sized bike but honestly decided to swallow my pride and ego and go with possibly a grom. Thank you for making this video, it makes me want to buy one even more and learn the basics.
A large piece of cardboard can help shield loud exhaust sound when listening for engine noise, listen to the engine from both sides. Great tips Eric! Congrats on the purchase! 👍🏍
It amazes me what some people ask for their groms! Here in Nebraska you can find some great deals but watching the grom groups some people (East/west coast) are asking over 3k for a 5000 mile grom.
Sold 2 2018 groms with under 1k miles for $3k each this summer. Bought them used last summer with 200 miles each for $1800 ea. Used Market is very well this summer because dealers didn’t have excess inventory. Sold a rebuilt tile 17 w 3k miles for $2300 as well
Killer tips, I have my market place notifications on and got updated about a 2020 grom near me! Has 300 miles and a clean title in hand and payed 2500! It took 2 months but like you said it all worked out!
I picked up a 2019 for $2800 with 144 miles on it. It’s brand new 😁. The guy was 300# fellow. Took my time and waited and looked etc etc. in the Facebook market it was found. Red SF brand new no scuff nothing. Only thing they done was add the rear fender delete and Olins shock. I was lucky because the ad was there for 7 hours when I hit him up. So I found a super unicorn. Parts ordered so far ...Z&Z 12 O Clock, Rear Sets, axel sliders,shorty levers, KLX110 bars, 14T front, 36T rear and non O-rings gold chain.
Nice mods on the way. My second set of zz rear sets just showed up this week for my new used grom. Waiting on the getbent subcage. Such a good feeling when those parts start showing up on your doorstep!
Photogromer by the way I am going to get a DRZ400SM this year or next year. Probably new, because they are rare here to find in descent shape. That’s if you find one.
@@limeninja1136 Dude, I got real lucky with my first one. They are out there, but man you gotta be looking all the time. Best deals I've found pop up in the local FB groups before hitting the marketplace. Keep looking, you'll find one 💪
I’ve been in the market for a grom but considered buying a normal motorcycle. However, being first time rider I wanted to get some practice so a grom was a great idea. only thing is I can’t imagine what the size is compared to my height I’m 5’9” and wasn’t sure if it would look stupid with me on one. I only need it to get to things around town when I’m how for my 34hr resets with work. I mistakenly found this video and it has made me more confident in picking one up. Thanks for making this video
@@work2livelifestyle767 anytime. I'm also have been between 170 on it to 210 and honestly there's not much of a speed difference honestly. It's fun man think of it like a 125cc dirtbike but motorcycle and u will enjoy it just take care of it. I'd say anyone up to about 300 lbs can enjoy this wonderful toy
Hello Photogromer, my name is Steve from Sydney, Australia. I really liked this video to give me some scope into how much groms are in the U.S. I have 2 groms 2017 blue & a 2016 yellow I bought my 1st grom from the dealership in Sydney, for $3750 AUD. ( roughly $2700 USD ) that was with tax and with a year of on road cost. Aka registration and insurance. There is definitely a bit of a price difference between our 2 countries. I just found that interesting. I can't wait to see the new 2021 Honda Grom colors. I've been looking around for them since you showed them in a older video of yours. Take care all the best All the way from Sydney Australia SHTOIVEN 😝
If you want to buy new from a dealer the best way is to email all the sales manager the best price you found anybody's paid out the door. I paid $3,550 out the door.. tax title all fees for a 2018 ABS in Inglewood California on 3/01/2019 A good rule of thumb is MSRP for a total out-the-door price including all fees, title..
Thank you dude you’re the best!!!! And I usually don’t comment on videos because I don’t think anyone cares tbh. But this video was extremely helpful in any way possible. Again thanks bud!
Thanks so much ... I never owned a grom. Always wanted one ☝️.. always had 600 and 1000 bikes . But I want a fun bike ... now I’m more confident and more informed on models difference
I literally just bought a Grom brand new for 3900 CASH!!! I fell like I KINDA got ripped off but I think it was worth it at the same time seeing as Covid... Edit: I couldn't find anything close enough for me to buy at a price I liked with the miles I wanted. I would never buy a motorcycle over 2000 miles just because how the market is, if you get me. Also, I don't even know how to ride yet! Like many have told you, you are one of the first Grommers I've watched and I appreciate all the videos! Edit: how tall are you and how much you weigh?
Just don’t sell it and you’ll get your money out of it. Like I showed I paid similar to that out the door when I bought brand new with the $200 less msrp but yah used is the way to go if you can get it to work for you. I’m 6ft 195lbs
That's what they go for from dealer. While you paid more than others who bought used you also have peace of mind that it is yours and its perfect from the start. You also saved yourself a lot of time looking and driving out.
Yup no shame in buying new if you don’t want to work for the best deal and have the time to wait for it to come up. It’s easier to do this for a second grom than the first when you just wanna get into it ASAP
@@jaybosher6144 Exactly. I already dumped it twice and two smaller tips. Had to replace the headlight housing, front fender and the right cowl of the headlight. I already swapped to some protaper XR50, TST turn signals in front and back. I also got a AMR decal set and and a T Rex racing engine cage and skid plate to put on. Now all I need is cam, exhaust, intake and a ecu flash lol;) Gott gain some speed after the weight I'm about to add. I forgot to mention for the last two weeks my knee has been healing and the first time I worked on my bike it was to change a bent rear brake pedal looool.
I disagree when you say at 11:23 that "All sellers are LIARS". I have sold many personal bikes, atvs, a one year old Sea Ray, nearly new Camrys, Mercedes, an 11 month old C5 Vette, etc. I tell the truth and I feel there are other truthful sellers out there. However, there are some liars out there selling things, but I have been lucky and only purchased from two of them in 48 years of buying personal toys. I like your video, so far, I just wish/hope you have an updated one. I will check for one after I finish watching this video from 2020. Best wishes.
I’ve been considering a Grom as a weekend toy to ride places my car isn’t needed. My car would remain my primary vehicle for sure. I just can’t decide on a used SF or a new 2022... the new one is so nice. Just don’t wanna pay nearly 5k OTD.
love the video. It's literally cheaper to buy new then used up here where I am in NY. my whole marketplace is 17,18,2019 groms with like 5k miles for 3300. Its insane.
@@Photogromer crazy to see you respond to this old of a video. I’ve really been debating a grom. I’ve committed to university of Tampa and I’ve been riding dirt bikes since I was 10. I just don’t know if a grom will be enough for me or not. I just figure it would be because of of how popular they are around the Tampa area. They are just so much cheaper/ newer then any supermoto I would get near that price range! Love to see you still respond to these old videos though! Good shit
@@nickchristofora3417 if you live near campus you'd love a grom. Wally (if you watch Coast2Coast videos, you'll know who he is), went to USF and lived off-campus, took the Grom to school every day, and hit rides at night. Supermotos are fun but the Grom scene is so large in Tampa I think you'd have more fun on that for day-to-day commuting and riding with the group. Cheers
being a “mechanic” and constantly working on my car and my moms car for her, one of the things i’m most excited about getting a bike is the easy of working on it, a single cylinder motor is gonna be a lot easier to work on then a big ass v6 or even v8, this is completely not the topic of the video but it was mentioned enough that i just had to say it
in California its better to buy a new Grom over a used one. used ones are stupid expensive here. New isn't always the wrong way to go... you also get a piece of mind knowing the history of the bike
I have no mechanical know-how and purely want a grom because it looks like a fun little bike to get me from a-b, it's very intimidating hearing you talk about what to look for when buying it because I know the basic concept but it'll take me a bit to learn my way around it.
I just got an og grom- just dirty, 3400 miles, for 1800! It was in a guys side yard. Put low sale price so I was under 2k registered. I’m putting knobby tires and wrapping it. Super stoked
Everyone has a unique experience. I got a grom new, immediately upgraded it, & change the oil & filter overly often // its my commuter bike // I am that asshole going 55 on the freeway in the right lane // lol // 19 Grom SF / PCV-WB2 + CAI + Kitaco Clutch Cover & 3 row oil cooler // no stunting, though I have pegged it to 71 mph going downhill with a tailwind ducked // I really like 3rd gear all around & obviously 4th at freeway / highway speeds // I really like the small light feel of the bike / much more comfortable than our previous GSX-R600 & Honda CBR600F4 before that / we also have a 13 PCX purchased new. We plan to keep both a long time ^^ they are great fun to ride! Cheers & safe travels & Godspeed
I almost bought a Grom the second year they came out! I ended up getting a 2015 cmx250 Honda Rebel in rubidium red with only 457 miles / pristine condition and factory paint codes still onit ! $2,995. Could not pass it uP, I dig the Grom and maybe I'll get one now that the prices are leveling off and sweet deals can be found, just like my new Rebel!🤩
I got a 2000 rebel with 12k for 1300 2 years and 18k ago. The clutch just started slipping but riding it every week and changing the oil has kept it very reliable
Ty for taking the time to make this video. I'm buying one this coming tax return. Can't wait to trick it out now that I know the clutch is cheap af...Mahalo
I feel I got a unicorn 🦄 for my first bike(aka my grom) just last month. I was kinda looking for around 6 months. A 2019 with 1756 miles, pro taper minis, after market exhaust, and I also got the stock exhaust, and knobbies. I found it within 45 minutes of it being posted.
Nice how much did you pay? I was passively looking for a second grom for the past 6 months when my unicorn 🦄 popped up. As you can see from someone’s previous comment they were trying to buy that same grom but I got there first 😂👌
I live in Orlando and been checking FB Marketplace for MONTHS.. none of the people selling their groms are pricing like this.. all are 2,700-3,500.. Contacted two dealerships and one wanted $5.6K out the door, and the other wanted 4.7K... pricing it too crazy.. i wish honda would just ship me it to me and skip all those fees
Amazing vid definitely want to buy one now. Been looking but seeing this makes me more confident on what to look for and knowing you put videos out on maintenance and such puts the nail in the coffin.
BROO thank you. I just picked up a 2018 for 2900 with 1500 miles. Had all the confidence because I knew what to look for! Mine came with the yoshi exhast, power commander, bars, etc. Not to mention all the stock parts. Youre the best man
Have a chinese grom clone they are great and tons of fun also. have rode with the real groms not as much different as you would think They are under 1500 brand new.
Solid advice for buying any Used motorcycle! I'm seriously considering a Grom, have owned many bikes in the past... Can you direct me to sites discussing proper engine mods? I know there are numerous BBK kits... plus Intakes... Cams... oil coolers.. etc. I would immediately want to beef mine up, keeping reliability. Good vid, thanks.
Best choice imo is doing a 250 or 300 swap. Once you start adding BBK and tuning you run the risk of reliability going out the window. There are a couple of Facebook groups for Honda Groms, Id join those and seek information on what type of performance upgrades you want to do. Good luck and thanks for the kind words.
@@mmaboxingko4298 yeah, high demand and low supply right now. The dealership I work at right now has a 5 page list of people waiting for CRF50s and CRF110s, any bike that comes in gets pulled out of the crate, set up and delivered to whoever is next on the list. Most dealers around have maybe a couple used bikes, and mostly bigger cruisers or things like ZX14s. Bikes under $5k are on craigslist/facebook because why take the trade in hit when you can sell it yourself and get more.
I bought a pretty tricked out 2018 Grom with 6k miles for $3,300 beat on it as it was my first bike and sold it for $3,700 about 3 months later....ITS ALL ABOUT THE PHOTOS AND WRITE UP!
This video reassures me that buying new is the way to go since it has no history behind is yours to break in and you know its a brand new bike. I don't mind paying an extra 700-800 for brand spanking new.
Thank you. I have been saving up to buy a bike to learn on before buying a real bike this is the perfect video. Only thing is in my area is used Grom is only around $200 less than new and not good condition so not really worth used
I can't believe the prices you're paying for these bikes over there in the US. I'm an american living in Vietnam. A brand new 2023 grom is around 2,500 US dollars right now. I just checked the prices. These bikes aren't that desirable here because of the small wheels and tires. Big potholes and small tires are a bad combination. I ride a 2022 honda wave with a 110 cc fuel injected engine with a 4 speed semiautomatic transmission. A perfect urban bike for Saigon. I paid 1300 US dollars for it brand new. I have about 8400 miles on it and it runs like a champ. It's my daily rider and I love it. To bad you have to pay such expensive prices over there in the states.
Been looking at Groms for the last two weeks and saw this video like holy cow those are all the ones I've been looking at in Tampa area. Got lucky and found a 2015 Unicorn with 2100 miles for $1800. Was only listed for 2 hours.
Certainly the KTM 390 would be more fun to ride than virtually any 125cc motorcycle. But there are still plenty of reasons to buy a new Grom. 137 MPG is unmatchable. This bike has a miniature frame, that makes it lightweight & maneuverable. With a controlable amount of power, they are extremely easy to ride wheelies on and for doing other stunts on, too ! The Grom is a very uniquely styled motorcycle with a fairly high resale value. But don't sell your Grom,... Put a 300cc CBR motor on it !
Just got mine last week. He had a green 19 with 1700k and only a pipe, as well as a black 14 with 1900k but 180cc, intake, exhaust, cooler, bar mirrors, levers, etc etc. $2,500 my choice. Of course took the 19.
I personally stay away from BBK when buying used. Seen too many blow up, need a bunch of supporting mods that a lot of people cheap out on. Congrats on your pick up though sounds like a good deal 👌
Good information I am a new subscriber. My wife and I are in our 60s and have retired from our jobs and I want to buy myself a gently used Grom and for my wife a new Navi to get around on when we visit different RV parks. Before seeing this video I was thinking I would have to spend over 3 thousand for a decent used bike but now I’m thinking more like 2,500 will get it done… Thanks
My Honda Grom Mods: kit.co/Photogromer
Photogromer thanks
Let me buy a grom from u in 2 years
what part of florida do you live in?
I just like to know what kind of gas mileage does a stock Grom get. I just want some thing super cheap on gas to ride to work.
@@jamesfair9751 120 miles to a tank. 1.453 gallon tank. ua-cam.com/video/akPbDTYlXng/v-deo.html
You should make another video on the other side of things “don’t over charge for a Grom”. Most Grom owners don’t know how devaluation works, your 2015 6k mile Grom ain’t work 3.2k even with mods.
Well this video is probably being watched by sellers too. If they don’t get their $3.2k maybe they will figure it out. I dunno it’s a tough pill for some people to swallow when going to sell. Best advise is part every mod out and return the grom to stock. You’ll maximize your return.
Facts
3.2k?
I see them not even running for 3.5k bro where you from.
@@armanimckoy2168 not california
@@armanimckoy2168 right? It’s hard finding them for under $3500 in decent condition…it’s ridiculous
This makes me way more confident in buying a grom used .
I hear ya. Makes me want to buy new, though im highly inexperienced mechanically to call out all the red flags
I have no qualms about buying a used grom but all of them for sale around me are asking way over the price of a new one so new one for me it is. Also the new ones have a 5th gear and few other changes anyway. Was gonna buy a new 2020 from a dealership but they wouldn't honor the 400 rebate listed on the honda website so the difference to a 22 is 200 bucks. Might as well get the new one for that little difference.
They are cheap brand new
Their going for 1500 In my area for used 2022s I wanna cry rn I'm buying one by December catch me in sc fam
I WISH people around my area would watch this. All the used groms are priced at 3000-3500 and it’s because they dumped 1k into aftermarket parts. I’ve tried so hard to negotiate and I always get “I know what it’s worth.” So stupid!!
I can't believe they hit you with the ole reliable, "I know what it's worth"😂
2 years later I can't find one under 3500.
Clap back with a "if you knew what it was worth, you would have already sold it"
@@dubsteppro777lol word.
You must be in florida. Every single person is a con artist or scamer, sack of shit. Fb market place is asking for 2k for a bike with rust no tires missing half the engine and no wheels so that's like all the other ones on market place. Also if they have an actual bike that works they have like 80k- 100k miles. I want out of this shity state. God I can't wait. Hope this state falls in the ocean with everyone.
This guide was clearly made before COVID. Used Groms are going for $3000+ on the marketplace. Many for more than the $3500 sticker price of a new one.
Thanks.
Great video! I bought my ‘15 in ‘17 for $2,400. Had just under 400 miles on it. Guy only used it to go a few miles each day to and from college. Completely stock and never abused. Seemed like a good deal to me. Bike is still running strong today!
Me too the blue OG in this video bought for $2400 in ‘17 too. Good price then for sure
There were others cheaper in my area, but they were higher mileage and clearly had been less cared for. I’m pretty happy with what I got. And yeah that blue bike was sharp!
How many miles today?
@@analyticalhabitrails9857 mine only has a little under 2100 miles now.
"I've seen people put 10,000 miles on it their first year."
...Im coming up to 17,000 on a 2019.... Ooof....
Get it!
18k in 12 months here...
How fast does it go ??
@@teambanny6662 50mph w/ -2/+4 sprockets lol
@@teambanny6662 around 60
Got my OG for $1300 with 746 miles. They are out there! Just gotta get lucky af.
Yup buddy of mine got a OG 2014 garage kept exhaust and fender delete and bars on it 400miles 2k and I just got my 2019 for 3400 in May brand new lol I was like damnnnnnnn but it’s all good both having good times now cheers
Used OG grom usually sold around RM5000 (Around $1200+) when it available to sale. Pretty rare. Used AF model start around $1.6k to $2.1K here in Malaysia. Yea, overprice used grom exist. Its better just a buy a new one. New 2019/2020 model price at $2.8k (including tax+insurance). Most people I know, import their grom directly from Thailand. Brand new cost only $2.2k.
holy shit thats a steal
Inflation has caused all these prices to rise approximately $1.5k-$2k
'Remember all sellers are liars' yup
Not true
@@warrenblood7710 I think the point is to treat all sellers as liars, as it is not uncommon for someone selling a used vehicle to lie about it's condition to make it easier to sell.
I know it's happened to me in the past. 👍
As well as. Buyers are liars. It’s one of the first rules in sales.
Thank you ! 40 + years motorcycle mechanic everything you said is spot on ! 👍 Please be safe everyone ! Gary K
Haha, wish you would have came out with this video a few weeks ago. I just bought 2 brand new groms from the dealership! 😤
Just don’t sell them next month 😂
Did the same. Got a 2020 abs and well I could have possibly bought two used ones 😂
Look on the bight side
You get to break it in and know every single thing thats happened to it
I bought a used and wish I would have been able to find a new one. Then I would have known everything about it
@@justsomegarage I keep telling myself that too lol
Add at least $500 for California pricing! Anything under $3K is gone/sold within hours in sunny CA.
That perfect weather all year round tax is no joke 😂
Yup in LA a used one is the same price or even more than a new 2020! Ima just buy a new one screw it
Yes okay I was watching this thinking “Where is this man finding so Groms for under 3k” in California I have never found anything under 2.5k and anything under 3k is rare.
3 year later theyre beings sold for 3-4k
I was trying to buy that white grom in inverness with the power commander. I had to wait til after work to drive out there and someone snaked it from me. Now i know who that is.
😂😂😂🤷♂️
I’m new to the riding world, period. Was going to look at a regular sized bike but honestly decided to swallow my pride and ego and go with possibly a grom. Thank you for making this video, it makes me want to buy one even more and learn the basics.
A large piece of cardboard can help shield loud exhaust sound when listening for engine noise, listen to the engine from both sides. Great tips Eric! Congrats on the purchase! 👍🏍
Glenn R thanks Glenn, good tip 💪
You can close off the exhaust with tour show. Always around. Feet can stay in, that is faster
Been looking into buying my first bike finally and I think this just made my decision final, thank you
Love how detailed this video is man! A+
Great video! I just bought my first Grom yesterday in California 2014 with 3k for $1900. I love it. Your video was very helpful. Thanks
Bikes are damn near free in December here in Wisconsin 😂
It was funny him saying Wisconsin and Florida. I live in WI trying to move to fl
It amazes me what some people ask for their groms! Here in Nebraska you can find some great deals but watching the grom groups some people (East/west coast) are asking over 3k for a 5000 mile grom.
Yah they overpaid or their wives said they gotta sell their grom and they don’t really want it to sell 😂
i just bought a 2018 for $2500... i love it already, check it out on my channel !
@@Drive315 how many miles ? Was it modded? I'm trying to buy one myself.
GI?
@@Photogromer a new grom bike cost about 4600 euro here in the netherlands... something like 5300 dollars i think
Sold 2 2018 groms with under 1k miles for $3k each this summer. Bought them used last summer with 200 miles each for $1800 ea. Used Market is very well this summer because dealers didn’t have excess inventory. Sold a rebuilt tile 17 w 3k miles for $2300 as well
Nice good job on the flip 💪
Killer tips, I have my market place notifications on and got updated about a 2020 grom near me! Has 300 miles and a clean title in hand and payed 2500! It took 2 months but like you said it all worked out!
How do I put on marketplace notifications? That's an awesome feature I didn't know about!
I picked up a 2019 for $2800 with 144 miles on it. It’s brand new 😁. The guy was 300# fellow. Took my time and waited and looked etc etc. in the Facebook market it was found. Red SF brand new no scuff nothing.
Only thing they done was add the rear fender delete and Olins shock. I was lucky because the ad was there for 7 hours when I hit him up. So I found a super unicorn.
Parts ordered so far ...Z&Z 12 O Clock, Rear Sets, axel sliders,shorty levers, KLX110 bars, 14T front, 36T rear and non O-rings gold chain.
Nice mods on the way. My second set of zz rear sets just showed up this week for my new used grom. Waiting on the getbent subcage. Such a good feeling when those parts start showing up on your doorstep!
Photogromer by the way I am going to get a DRZ400SM this year or next year. Probably new, because they are rare here to find in descent shape. That’s if you find one.
Nice they are just big groms. 💪
When it comes to Grom market, don't buy from Ohio, we kinda are rough on them, we hit everything, deer, trees, people, scooters.....mailboxes......
Oh Hell, so true. We fuchin' RIDE our Groms!
I heard Cleveland people are extra special.
I'm from Mid Ohio River Valley in WV. I'd see Ohioans cross the river and they couldn't drive.
@@GromBeardo I live in Ohio and can barely find any groms to buy that are half worth it...
@@limeninja1136 Dude, I got real lucky with my first one. They are out there, but man you gotta be looking all the time. Best deals I've found pop up in the local FB groups before hitting the marketplace. Keep looking, you'll find one 💪
WOW! Thank you so much! as a newbie rider looking for a Grom, this is amazing information.
bought a full stock 2020 with 0 miles from a private seller for $2800 today. happy with my purchase
I’ve been in the market for a grom but considered buying a normal motorcycle. However, being first time rider I wanted to get some practice so a grom was a great idea. only thing is I can’t imagine what the size is compared to my height I’m 5’9” and wasn’t sure if it would look stupid with me on one. I only need it to get to things around town when I’m how for my 34hr resets with work. I mistakenly found this video and it has made me more confident in picking one up. Thanks for making this video
I'm 6 foot flat and it is almost perfect for me honestly I love the little thing.
@@d3athquid0x87 this is good to know I’m only 5’10” so shouldn’t be a issue lol thanks man
@@work2livelifestyle767 anytime. I'm also have been between 170 on it to 210 and honestly there's not much of a speed difference honestly. It's fun man think of it like a 125cc dirtbike but motorcycle and u will enjoy it just take care of it. I'd say anyone up to about 300 lbs can enjoy this wonderful toy
I'm saying weight BTW
I'm 6"2 should it be okay? Which 1 is the best ? 2023 ?
Hello Photogromer, my name is Steve from Sydney, Australia. I really liked this video to give me some scope into how much groms are in the U.S.
I have 2 groms 2017 blue & a 2016 yellow
I bought my 1st grom from the dealership in Sydney, for $3750 AUD. ( roughly $2700 USD ) that was with tax and with a year of on road cost. Aka registration and insurance. There is definitely a bit of a price difference between our 2 countries. I just found that interesting. I can't wait to see the new 2021 Honda Grom colors. I've been looking around for them since you showed them in a older video of yours.
Take care all the best
All the way from Sydney Australia
SHTOIVEN 😝
Thanks for the insight!
If you want to buy new from a dealer the best way is to email all the sales manager the best price you found anybody's paid out the door.
I paid $3,550 out the door.. tax title all fees for a 2018 ABS in Inglewood California on 3/01/2019 A good rule of thumb is MSRP for a total out-the-door price including all fees, title..
So you saying whatever the msrp is it what you ask out the door for everything?
Thanks, I was worried about buying used but now I'm feeling a bit more confident about it.
Thank you so much for making this video. I’m about to buy a grom for college and this has answered all my questions
This video helps me buy ones that have problem in the muffler and the motor thank you
Thank you for this guide. I reallllllyy want a Grom now
I hate how people think all the mods add value. It doesn’t. A stock one to me is what I want.
Awesome great video bro. I been making 12 bar for my friends here in Hawaii , looped out last week and will say my 12 bar saved my bike !!!!!
Thank you dude you’re the best!!!! And I usually don’t comment on videos because I don’t think anyone cares tbh. But this video was extremely helpful in any way possible. Again thanks bud!
Thanks so much ... I never owned a grom. Always wanted one ☝️.. always had 600 and 1000 bikes . But I want a fun bike ... now I’m more confident and more informed on models difference
I literally just bought a Grom brand new for 3900 CASH!!! I fell like I KINDA got ripped off but I think it was worth it at the same time seeing as Covid...
Edit: I couldn't find anything close enough for me to buy at a price I liked with the miles I wanted. I would never buy a motorcycle over 2000 miles just because how the market is, if you get me.
Also, I don't even know how to ride yet! Like many have told you, you are one of the first Grommers I've watched and I appreciate all the videos!
Edit: how tall are you and how much you weigh?
Just don’t sell it and you’ll get your money out of it. Like I showed I paid similar to that out the door when I bought brand new with the $200 less msrp but yah used is the way to go if you can get it to work for you. I’m 6ft 195lbs
@@Photogromer Thanks again bruh, appreciate it.
That's what they go for from dealer. While you paid more than others who bought used you also have peace of mind that it is yours and its perfect from the start. You also saved yourself a lot of time looking and driving out.
Yup no shame in buying new if you don’t want to work for the best deal and have the time to wait for it to come up. It’s easier to do this for a second grom than the first when you just wanna get into it ASAP
@@jaybosher6144 Exactly. I already dumped it twice and two smaller tips. Had to replace the headlight housing, front fender and the right cowl of the headlight. I already swapped to some protaper XR50, TST turn signals in front and back. I also got a AMR decal set and and a T Rex racing engine cage and skid plate to put on. Now all I need is cam, exhaust, intake and a ecu flash lol;) Gott gain some speed after the weight I'm about to add.
I forgot to mention for the last two weeks my knee has been healing and the first time I worked on my bike it was to change a bent rear brake pedal looool.
time to re visit this video, prices now are 3k - 5k in 2022
I disagree when you say at 11:23 that "All sellers are LIARS". I have sold many personal bikes, atvs, a one year old Sea Ray, nearly new Camrys, Mercedes, an 11 month old C5 Vette, etc. I tell the truth and I feel there are other truthful sellers out there. However, there are some liars out there selling things, but I have been lucky and only purchased from two of them in 48 years of buying personal toys. I like your video, so far, I just wish/hope you have an updated one. I will check for one after I finish watching this video from 2020. Best wishes.
I’ve been considering a Grom as a weekend toy to ride places my car isn’t needed. My car would remain my primary vehicle for sure. I just can’t decide on a used SF or a new 2022... the new one is so nice. Just don’t wanna pay nearly 5k OTD.
Could always finance?
@@GK5_ never finance a toy. some advice from an older guy.
@@michaelmcglothlin366Damn this is facts
amazing vid bro. im too young to buy a grom but when i can you bet ill but one!! specially after seeing this video. great video man!
dont buy a grom buy a yamaha r3 if you're a beginner
love the video. It's literally cheaper to buy new then used up here where I am in NY. my whole marketplace is 17,18,2019 groms with like 5k miles for 3300. Its insane.
Yeah market is a little bonkers right now. Lot of stimulus and tax checks burning holes in pockets
@@Photogromer crazy to see you respond to this old of a video. I’ve really been debating a grom. I’ve committed to university of Tampa and I’ve been riding dirt bikes since I was 10. I just don’t know if a grom will be enough for me or not. I just figure it would be because of of how popular they are around the Tampa area. They are just so much cheaper/ newer then any supermoto I would get near that price range! Love to see you still respond to these old videos though! Good shit
@@nickchristofora3417 if you live near campus you'd love a grom. Wally (if you watch Coast2Coast videos, you'll know who he is), went to USF and lived off-campus, took the Grom to school every day, and hit rides at night. Supermotos are fun but the Grom scene is so large in Tampa I think you'd have more fun on that for day-to-day commuting and riding with the group. Cheers
being a “mechanic” and constantly working on my car and my moms car for her, one of the things i’m most excited about getting a bike is the easy of working on it, a single cylinder motor is gonna be a lot easier to work on then a big ass v6 or even v8, this is completely not the topic of the video but it was mentioned enough that i just had to say it
in California its better to buy a new Grom over a used one. used ones are stupid expensive here. New isn't always the wrong way to go... you also get a piece of mind knowing the history of the bike
I have no mechanical know-how and purely want a grom because it looks like a fun little bike to get me from a-b, it's very intimidating hearing you talk about what to look for when buying it because I know the basic concept but it'll take me a bit to learn my way around it.
I’m lucky my local Honda dealer has no dealer fees, just the normal tax title tag
Where???
Where is this?
I just got an og grom- just dirty, 3400 miles, for 1800! It was in a guys side yard. Put low sale price so I was under 2k registered. I’m putting knobby tires and wrapping it. Super stoked
Not planning on buying a grom, but glad i got recommended this video.
Everyone has a unique experience. I got a grom new, immediately upgraded it, & change the oil & filter overly often // its my commuter bike // I am that asshole going 55 on the freeway in the right lane // lol // 19 Grom SF / PCV-WB2 + CAI + Kitaco Clutch Cover & 3 row oil cooler // no stunting, though I have pegged it to 71 mph going downhill with a tailwind ducked // I really like 3rd gear all around & obviously 4th at freeway / highway speeds // I really like the small light feel of the bike / much more comfortable than our previous GSX-R600 & Honda CBR600F4 before that / we also have a 13 PCX purchased new. We plan to keep both a long time ^^ they are great fun to ride! Cheers & safe travels & Godspeed
It seems like here in Arizona people won't let their Groms go for anything less than $3k high miles and all.
I almost bought a Grom the second year they came out!
I ended up getting a 2015 cmx250 Honda Rebel in rubidium red with only 457 miles / pristine condition and factory paint codes still onit ! $2,995. Could not pass it uP, I dig the Grom and maybe I'll get one now that the prices are leveling off and sweet deals can be found, just like my new Rebel!🤩
I got a 2000 rebel with 12k for 1300 2 years and 18k ago. The clutch just started slipping but riding it every week and changing the oil has kept it very reliable
@@relate97 Lol, you paid more money to get a smaller bike that's real fun but also real slow which makes you really funny.😃
Need this updated, even a 5 min one for these ridiculous prices for 2022
Ty for taking the time to make this video. I'm buying one this coming tax return. Can't wait to trick it out now that I know the clutch is cheap af...Mahalo
I feel I got a unicorn 🦄 for my first bike(aka my grom) just last month. I was kinda looking for around 6 months. A 2019 with 1756 miles, pro taper minis, after market exhaust, and I also got the stock exhaust, and knobbies. I found it within 45 minutes of it being posted.
Nice how much did you pay? I was passively looking for a second grom for the past 6 months when my unicorn 🦄 popped up. As you can see from someone’s previous comment they were trying to buy that same grom but I got there first 😂👌
@@Photogromer oh whoops 2300 I live in New England and they are hard to come by up here.
Great deal 👌
I don't know how to ride a motorcycle, but really wanna get one. Craigslist they got em for like 4k
I live in Orlando and been checking FB Marketplace for MONTHS.. none of the people selling their groms are pricing like this.. all are 2,700-3,500.. Contacted two dealerships and one wanted $5.6K out the door, and the other wanted 4.7K... pricing it too crazy.. i wish honda would just ship me it to me and skip all those fees
i paid 1600 for my 2017 grom and its mint it had 10700miles when i got it and its on 22000 ish miles now it looks practically brand new
Amazing vid definitely want to buy one now. Been looking but seeing this makes me more confident on what to look for and knowing you put videos out on maintenance and such puts the nail in the coffin.
Good video for buying a used Grom..but for me I rather go brand new cause it won't break the bank and new is always better than used..😃
The grom prices and motorcycles in general have gone crazy. People are selling 2014 groms for 3500 plus lmao its wild
BROO thank you. I just picked up a 2018 for 2900 with 1500 miles. Had all the confidence because I knew what to look for! Mine came with the yoshi exhast, power commander, bars, etc. Not to mention all the stock parts. Youre the best man
Right on!
yup, Wisconsin here, can confirm the market changes just like the seasons do here.
I was just looking into buying one, Thank You!
Good luck on your Honda Grom purchase 🤘
My groms a 15' and is showcase condition, runs great. Its mint with 8,500 miles
Have a chinese grom clone they are great and tons of fun also. have rode with the real groms not as much different as you would think They are under 1500 brand new.
Solid advice for buying any Used motorcycle! I'm seriously considering a Grom, have owned many bikes in the past... Can you direct me to sites discussing proper engine mods? I know there are numerous BBK kits... plus Intakes... Cams... oil coolers.. etc. I would immediately want to beef mine up, keeping reliability. Good vid, thanks.
Best choice imo is doing a 250 or 300 swap. Once you start adding BBK and tuning you run the risk of reliability going out the window. There are a couple of Facebook groups for Honda Groms, Id join those and seek information on what type of performance upgrades you want to do. Good luck and thanks for the kind words.
Thanks for this video! Me and my girlfriend both ride CBR’s and plan to ad 2 grom’s this year! It’s gonna be fun!
I got me a unicorn! $1800 2014 og mint stock with 1800 miles. Well unicorn for the Texas prices lol
1:55... "you just need to be patient"... I just scored a 2015 with only 311 miles on it!!!
Dude, excellent video. You definitely did you research and have a high know of wheeling and dealing.
Spot on information . Great video!
Thanks!
Do that oil pump mod, that’ll be a bulletproof engine like any other Honda....
Ayy, fellow Pinellas County man, thanks for this buyers guide!
Happy to help!
just bought a used 2019 grom big bore keep you updated so far it’s a beati
bought a near new sf grom with 900 miles on it for 2500 dollars tax included. Cannot wait to ride it
Just bought a 2020 grom with 1300 miles with a yoshimur exhaust and pro taper handlebars. Excited to put some miles on this thing
Don't forget to check dealers. I've seen 2019 and 2020 groms at dealers for $2800 out the door, tag title and license included.
What state?
@@mmaboxingko4298 Washington, and Oklahoma. Probably won't be any deals for a while since everything is sold before getting to the dealers right now.
Random builds I just picked up a 2019 with 500 miles for $3,000 in Los Angeles....and that was one of the better deals I found
@@mmaboxingko4298 yeah, high demand and low supply right now. The dealership I work at right now has a 5 page list of people waiting for CRF50s and CRF110s, any bike that comes in gets pulled out of the crate, set up and delivered to whoever is next on the list. Most dealers around have maybe a couple used bikes, and mostly bigger cruisers or things like ZX14s. Bikes under $5k are on craigslist/facebook because why take the trade in hit when you can sell it yourself and get more.
I bought a pretty tricked out 2018 Grom with 6k miles for $3,300 beat on it as it was my first bike and sold it for $3,700 about 3 months later....ITS ALL ABOUT THE PHOTOS AND WRITE UP!
Makes me feel better lol. I got tired of waiting bought a 2019 with 6k for 2700
This video reassures me that buying new is the way to go since it has no history behind is yours to break in and you know its a brand new bike. I don't mind paying an extra 700-800 for brand spanking new.
I’m looking to buy a grom and this is really helping me!
Thank you. I have been saving up to buy a bike to learn on before buying a real bike this is the perfect video. Only thing is in my area is used Grom is only around $200 less than new and not good condition so not really worth used
Thanks for the video. This is exactly what I was needing.
Was thinking to go the dealership route but naaaahhh thanks for the info I subbed
Just bought my 2020 today I stubbed so I can upgrade and repair myself
Every used grom in my area is listed at or more that a new 2022 model.
My Grom is in the 1500 to 2k range... 🥺 but atleast it made it in the video🤙
Yeah in my small town they try selling used ones for 3700 when a new one is 3400😂
I can't believe the prices you're paying for these bikes over there in the US.
I'm an american living in Vietnam. A brand new 2023 grom is around 2,500 US dollars right now. I just checked the prices.
These bikes aren't that desirable here because of the small wheels and tires. Big potholes and small tires are a bad combination.
I ride a 2022 honda wave with a 110 cc fuel injected engine with a 4 speed semiautomatic transmission. A perfect urban bike for Saigon.
I paid 1300 US dollars for it brand new. I have about 8400 miles on it and it runs like a champ. It's my daily rider and I love it.
To bad you have to pay such expensive prices over there in the states.
Bought my 2018 with 900 miles for 1700 bones, best decision i ever made
Been looking at Groms for the last two weeks and saw this video like holy cow those are all the ones I've been looking at in Tampa area. Got lucky and found a 2015 Unicorn with 2100 miles for $1800. Was only listed for 2 hours.
Highly recommend anyone to also check out the KTM 390 Duke as an alternative for just a little more...
I've just got a grom. Next bike will be the 390. Just needed to scratch that itch first.
Certainly the KTM 390 would be more fun to ride than virtually any 125cc motorcycle.
But there are still plenty of reasons to buy a new Grom.
137 MPG is unmatchable.
This bike has a miniature frame, that makes it lightweight & maneuverable. With a controlable amount of power, they are extremely easy to ride wheelies on and for doing other stunts on, too !
The Grom is a very uniquely styled motorcycle with a fairly high resale value.
But don't sell your Grom,...
Put a 300cc CBR motor on it !
Just got mine last week. He had a green 19 with 1700k and only a pipe, as well as a black 14 with 1900k but 180cc, intake, exhaust, cooler, bar mirrors, levers, etc etc. $2,500 my choice. Of course took the 19.
I personally stay away from BBK when buying used. Seen too many blow up, need a bunch of supporting mods that a lot of people cheap out on.
Congrats on your pick up though sounds like a good deal 👌
New subscriber. I’m a female so this is very helpful , I def over paid for my used grom and I’m hoping everything works
Good information I am a new subscriber. My wife and I are in our 60s and have retired from our jobs and I want to buy myself a gently used Grom and for my wife a new Navi to get around on when we visit different RV parks. Before seeing this video I was thinking I would have to spend over 3 thousand for a decent used bike but now I’m thinking more like 2,500 will get it done… Thanks
I want a grom for my first bike. Im 5'5 and 120 pounds. I think its one of the few bikes around that wont look too big for me 😅
Just got my 2022 today. Pick it up soon
Damn one of those ads was right in my city, wish I had seen it 😭