2018 Giant Anthem Advanced Pro 29 0 Review - First Look!
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- I’ll be doing a couple of reviews on the 2018 Giant Anthem Advanced Pro 29 0. This one is my first look at the bike without having spent any trail time on it yet. Other reviews to follow!
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I just watched your XC vs. Trail video from Aug 2015, and it puts both videos into light. Also how much the Anthem has changed over the years.
And 0 is the amount of money you'll have in your bank account lol!
Hey Clint, Im a roadie who bought my first FS MB two years ago, a 2016 Giant Anthem Advanced SX. Since then I've made it a bit more "trailish" by replacing the Rockshox Revelation 120mm to a Pike, 130mm. I also went with beefier 2.35" Hans Dampf (F) and Nobby Nic (R), with a Fox Transfer dropper post. This thing rocks! The bike still has the nimbleness of an XC bike with the capabilities of a modest trail bike. Love this thing!
Finally!!! God that's beautiful. People don't realize this is a RACING beast, no dropper, maximum climbing speed! I'm hoping to get a ANTHEM
ADVANCED 29 1 with my employee discount.
Wohoo!!! Bring on the testing. Can't wait to see how this goes. Great to see this bike finally in your hands Clint.
I managed to ride one of these over the weekend. Let me just say in 30+ years of riding it was maybe the best bike I've ever touched. It was tempting to sell a kidney to buy one. Not only was it insanely light and responsive, it had a great middle ground between being racing nimble, but still not overly aggressive. I was also astounded at how well the suspension worked.
Having said that, the real sweet spot in the Anthem line-up really is the Anthem Advanced Pro 1, at "only" $5,000. Too bad there's no way I can sell a half a kidney.
BLING!! I have one of those "boats" Clint; Anthem X29er. I agree, challenging to maneuver in very twisty singletrack, but climbs like a goat and super stable descending. Looking forward to the ride review.
That is one good looking bike !Can't wait to see the ride/ review. Would also love to see you do a test of the new 27.5 Anthem if possible in the future to see how it compares
Very cool. Knew this was coming eventually. Next steps in order. Fall in love w the ride, give this one back to owner, Sell Rkt9 and get the Pro 1 version of this bad boy!
I did a demo of an advanced pro at Alafia yesterday. It's quite fast and handles very well. I just missed having a dropper. Set the seat slightly lower and it was ok for rough stuff.
Man,because of you I’m thinking on get me a giant 👍👍👍
Stock 780 bars on an XC bike? Beautiful bike though! Can't wait for the ride review.
Yes, I have the Advanced Pro 1 , so far, great bike.
NIIICEEE! was waiting for this !
Zero joke was in fact funny. Good job.
Nice bike but the price and lack of a dropper post puts me off.
why would you want a dropper post an top leval xc bike
Kenzie Sinnott for me they’re better for the downhills
Because weight savings...
then you shouldn't be riding a XC race bike
This isn’t the type of bike you go downhill on
Don’t ride it ? If you do you will sell your niner ! Awesome real mountain bike
Specialized stuff on a Giant! Bad voodoo right there man!
Hoping for the best here!!
with great power comes great modulations
My jet nine weighs 23.5 and about half the price, but would love to ride one of these.☝️
Would be curious to know if you think the frame/fork will accept 2.3” tires, Clint.
Not something one would typically do on an XC rocket....but we have a lot of rocks in Arizona. Trails that don’t necessarily require ‘trail’ bike, but sometimes a little wider tire on a lighter XC style bike can be nice.
Hi Clint,
could you talk about some of the differences between the "Anthem 29" and the "Anthem" 2018 with 27.5"? What do you think which bike is best for which terrain / riding style?
Do you think they will continue the "Anthem"? Since I see them advertise (only) the 29 everywhere and the 27.5 2018 isn't even available here in Germany yet.
+Dirk Schubert Anthem 27.5 is now a trail bike and Anthem 29 is XC. Just depends on what your riding needs are.
As to the 2018 Anthem. You would need to look at their site closely. For the most part, the Anthems are now all XC bikes, with "endurance" geometry for the most part, which is a trend.
Adding to the confusion, if you look at the US site, versus other sites, you'll see some 27.5 Anthems that Giant puts in their "Trail" category, but calls it a "XC and Trail Machine". So you tell me what it is!?!
www.giant-bicycles.com/ca/anthem-2
As to climbing, this bike is so light, and so responsive, it would have to climb like a mountain goat. The larger wheel on a 29er allows for greater rolling (though not acceleration) over almost all terrain, including climbs.
Put another way, weight savings by going for a 27.5 over a 29er would be negligible, and offset by the benefits of a larger wheel. How you ride, where you ride, and perhaps your height/inseam and how the bike feels to you, should determine that.
GREAT review!
Hi Clint,
Love your videos! They are very in depth and I enjoy watching them from over here in NZ. One question: how do you find the cornering in this bike vs the giant trance? I currently have a trance and am wondering about changing to this bike. Regards
+Eric the Plumber The Anthem simply cuts into a corner a lot quicker than a trance. It's like a sports car versus a regular sedan. That's the best analogy I can use.
Have all the Anthem 29ers had those 18" chainstays up until this year? My cycling partner has a carbon Anthem 29er that's maybe 2 years old, he doesn't seem to have any issues with that but now I'm really curious. I only rode his bike a few times because it's the wrong size (medium) but it felt crazy light and sketchy compared to the bike I'm used to (Pivot 429C).
robwas Its not as bad as some people make out, in fact on marathon courses i find the anthem to be superb esp on high speed downhills, where you notice the long chainstays is low speed maneuverability where the longer turning circle is noticable. Most people use the Anthem for longer races in my experience anyway where the longer stays are not as important as comfort, which the previous Anthem has in droves
Boost step-cast? So it's a wide narrow fork or a narrow wide fork?
Drool worthy bike. Looking forward to your impressions of it. Seems like you don't get a chance to ride shimano much anymore though!
+Dan Morgan Shimano is getting overrun by SRAM lately... Time for them to step it up!
Clint, I've always wondered why xc bikes have higher top tubes. Why is that? The Trance for example has a more low slung tt to give you room to move around. Not sure why you wouldn't want that on an xc bike too.
+Manny Fonseca oftentimes it's to fit one or two water bottles inside the triangle. But my trance fits a water bottle.
Hey Clint. Great video man. I am a cross country rider looking for a full suspension bike and I really, really, like the new Giant Anthems. For my budget I can maybe get a used Advance Pro 1 or a brand new Anthem 29er1 aluminum. Both have comparable components but naturally the aluminum is the better value. I like the aluminum but I am just a little concerned the extra flex may hurt me on the climbs. What do you think? Im not that concerned about the weight difference, which for me, is negligible.
Giants alluminum is actually pretty stiff. I rode and aluminum anthem for several years. To me wheels make a bigger difference. Perhaps you can get the aluminum one and upgrade to carbon rims down the road.
Thanks Clint! The aluminum framed Anthem 29er 1 has the same components as the Anthem Advance Pro 1, including the carbon wheels.
@@woodstockpaul6066 nice!
Great job 👍🏻
i can buy USED from 2200$
it s normal?
Hi Clint. Big fan here. Learned a ton from your videos. I'm just about to purchase an Anthem 27.5. I'll most likely go with an Alum version to keep the cost down. From watching your videos, I was under the impression that an Anthem 2 27.5 would weigh about 24-26lbs. You have a video from 2013 showing 23.08 for your Anthem. HOWEVER, I visited a shop today and asked them to weigh their Anthem 2 and it showed 29lbs 10oz!!! I'm really bummed that it's that heavy. I was hoping to be under 25. Any thoughts? Maybe that 11-46 cassette and SLX components are adding that much weight? I know the dropper adds a bit but probably not more than .5lbs. Any advice would be appreciated. I was actually considering getting the 3 and then swapping components as I go to lighten it.
+Sean Saunders today's Anthem 27.5 is set up more like a trail bike so it's going to be heavier. The best way to lighten it up is with the wheel set. So perhaps get the bike now and save up for a lightweight cross-country wheelset. Carbon wheels would make a dramatic difference in the way the bike rides.
Clint Gibbs thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I was thinking the same but still can't figure out the 5lb or more discrepancy. Stans valor's would only save me 1lb as compared to the stock alum. Maybe the new 130 fork is heavy. I think it had me maxxis forekasters on it. Not sure about their weight. I'll keep researching. Thanks
I’ve been looking at some of the Trance lower end models, how do the Suntour forks compare to Rockshox Forks? I’m currently running Rockshox Revelation and don’t want to downgrade because it is an expensive item to upgrade-what’s your experience of the Suntour Forks?
+Pricey 78 I have no first-hand experience with Suntour forks so I can't really give an opinion. I'm a fox guy so that's where most of my experience have been. I've had several RockShox Forks in the past but they have not been as reliable as Fox.
you should test the trek top fuel vs that giant
Your Japanese accent is great！ Yeah，kashima = 鹿島 which means deer island lol.
Hi Clint! How would you compare this Anthem 29 to the old Anthem 27.5 (2014-2016)? Is it worth the change?
+Greenepyon personally I would choose the 29 now but they're both great bikes. If you want speed over agility and go for the 29. If you like the super agile feel of 27.5 Wheels then stick with it.
Gorgeous
Hi Clint ive just bought an Anthem 29er without a rear shock. Could you point me in the right direction of what shock size and brand to get please. Im running Fox on the front.
Thanks
Dan
+dan cordt I would go for a fox Evol. As far as the eye to eye measurement I'm not quite sure. A local giant dealer could probably get those measurements for you.
Clint Gibbs thank you Clint
Hello Clint:
Do you know the ETRTO of the fast trak ?
+Antonio Feliciano I don't
Nice bike, but where's the seat clamp?
Tomislav Duić, under the little rubber thing on the top tube. It is vertical, and harder to use.
Under rubber and vertical? Ok, I have to google that, never seen it before.
Giant does it on their bikes. Its actually a crap design, as previously mentioned. I have this on my Giant TCX cyclocross bike, and they are a pain in the ass. Very hard to use, the seatpost is in the way when screwing, and the seatpost always slides down after bumpy terrain, even with carbon grease. Plus, the seatpost is D shaped, you can't put in any other seapost just the ones from Giant...
No dropper?
One of the first things I noticed too. At this price point, it's a serious flaw... then the bad news came in - 27.2mm seatpost, so basically no way of installing a normal droppper. This is a disqualification for any serious trail use.
Jarek totally!
A few exist: www.bike-discount.de/en/buy/thomson-elite-dropper-seatpost-27.2-mm-425-mm-449019
but on an 8K bike you don't really want to have a non-stealth dropper
TheNerdyCanadian Your right. Maybe they want you to use another bike for casual trail rides.
So awesome, i just bought rockhopper comp 2018 it has chipped paint, what should i do?
prudiceflc Touch up paint...
ty, i was thinking to call Specialized if they have such a thing, its aluminum frame, regular paint for cars is good?
prudiceflc I have used it In the past. That's back when I had a steel bike. It held up well.
prudiceflc - Car parts shops sell cheap little touch up vials. That type of paint will last a lot longer than simple nail polish.
thx for opinions, is it usual on brand new bikes? i mean i read i could get some discount..
Gave you a like for the zero joke lol.
Swweetttt bike!!!!
Ill stick to my 2017 Specialized stump jumper enduro.
Dream bike ahh
Looks like a very dry condition bike tbh, rear shock would get clogged with mud so easily, cables near BB- why wiring is not done beneath? And Fast Tracks.. yeah not for Europe autumn hehe
TheProjectX3 it's a Florida bike..
That huge stack of spacers + positive stem + riser bar seems a bit too much. You might want to lower the handlebar quite a bit for proper testing.
Second comment , im your fan in the philippines clint. Pls pin. Sorry for my english
He wont. He has fans around the World im from Finland and that is not a reason to get pinned.
Yes, he has fans from around the world. Guatemala here!
And from France lol 😜
That bike is so expensive 😨😵
Giant Mtb are awesome! The only thing is that there frames are so plain over and over. Makes me look for other brands.
+junior Sanchez I can promise you you don't notice the paint when you're hammering down the trail. Ride performance is priority for me.
Clint Gibbs I understand Exactly what you mean. I love your videos Brother! Good Work.
780 mm bars standard
Complaining about the 2011 anthem wheelbase being too long? Now in 2020 it's considered normal length, Santa Cruz blur has the same wheelbase lol!!! And many more 😂
LMFAO>>> amount of $$ in ur bank account ...lol
BTW, i am a hard tail lover, never got use out of my FS bikes.
I remember when i was a total sram/avid head & every1 was a XT/XTR head......it doesn't matter all that much now, i prefer grip shift but i rarely see it sold on bikes
0 the amount of money left in your pocket. Lol 😂
pls dont crash it
NOT expansive bike, versus Scott spark 900 SL !
totally unnecessary but awesome nonetheless
6:08 💀
I demoed a giant anthem 29 2, the sound of the rear suspension topping was horrible... like the swingarm was hitting something.... never heard an ugly sound like that in 12 years riding a full sus....
Something was definitely wrong with that bike. That's not normal.
...the lbs was too incompetent... they told me it was because it was too new :) damned bike stores, some are so bad... thanks
but check this video.... ua-cam.com/video/FBZQUJeL8Aw/v-deo.html would do you say that is normal topping noise? ..in my case it was way worse, sounded like when you crash a coke can
I've had many versions of the anthem and never had that issue.
well the rear linkage and suspension comes assembled in the box, the lbs could not really mess it up. Looks to me like there is too much travel on the shock or the large frame has a mistake in it
Jeallous 😞😕😒
you're so rich
Zero....no money left lol
Dated junk. Scott Spark is better in every aspect.
When I see folks ready to spend 8500 use on a bike that has the same production cost and only fairly lighter than a 2k Alluminium Anthem, I know I have a great chance of becoming a billionaire someday because all you have to do is just have anything to sell and convince the gullible masses it's better than the previous one and off they go selling their organs to get one so they can show it off. That low self-esteem among most cyclists is on fleek!
What a stupid idea.... Pull the cable to unlock the suspensions. Have a cable failure on the trail and the whole ride is f*cked up ! I really dont get why they dont stick to the good old "pull to lock" system... Works as good and if fails you will still have some suspension ! Same goes for rockshox and their poplock
sorry, but you also pull cables to shift derailleurs, you pull cables to activate the dropper post mechanism, so why wouldn't you pull cables to unlock the suspension?
Any cable failure will mess up your ride. Does it happen often? It shouldn't.
For derailleurs you can't do otherwise, its just the only way it works (excluding that old shimano one). For droppers you have to find a way to unlock it...And i dont see any other way that a cable (or fluid for the reverb) to do so. For lockouts, we HAD a perfectly working system and if it failed, well you can still do without locked suspensions... The problem for me there is not that it is cable actuated, it is that they decided to change to something that is more likely to fail on the trail. (btw simple math : you spend usually more time not locked out which means with this system cable is most of the time stretched and not in resting position... More tension and for longer : doesnt it means more likely to fail ?)
Any cable failure will mess up a ride, i agree... But at worse if derailleur cable snaps you can make it SS and keep going untill home or go downhill no problem... Here try to go downhill with locked suspensions :DD
the bike suck it is no match to a similarly priced hardtail. pls buy and review a hardtail xc bike.