#93 - Shop Organization Tips
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2014
- HalfInchShy.com
I've been asked a few times for a shop tour. You see the shop enough in project videos :) but a recent request added "because I see some ideas in the background I want to know more about". Ah, that I can do!
I recorded this beginning of December and promptly forgot about it. Ironically, I started using a tool to better organize clips for editing because it "hides the clips that aren't for the current project". Well, out of sight, out of mind :)
Hope there are some ideas in here you can steal, improve, and put to use. I needed to get organized cuz as my dad would put it: I try putting 10 lbs of crap in a 5 lbs bag :)
Addendum: I'll be adding links to things like those plastic boxes on my blog page for this post. You can find it here: www.halfinchshy.com/2014/02/sh... - Навчання та стиль
Great Video, some good ideas, well presented. The Clamp supports were one I needed. My Mauals are in plastic folders in three ring binders. Saws,Misc & I forget! I have just removed all those beautifully presented books on How TO , as they occupy space on the shelf and all that info is now available on line.
I’d never heard of the Festool Sortainer or Systainer. I looked them up, and WOW! The main type in this shop are $150 to $220 each in 2021. He’s easily got $4000 in storage boxes there. I’m definitely more of a milk crate or Harbor Freight guy.
For guys like myself who have very few woodworker friends, you are a breath of fresh air. I get you; thanks.
best shop tour on youtube. its not a glorified magazine shoot. with obvious things stored elsewhere. great info shred. thanks.
Wow, What a wealth of info for shop organization. Thank you for taking the time to do this vid and share what obviously takes many careful hours to figure out. You are an excellent cabinet maker, that gives you a huge advantage over the rest of us. Being able to place a drawer, exactly where you need and the exact size you need all on rollers! NICE.
Glad it was useful! So many things have changed since that video, although what I covered in there is still the same. Shops evolve.
That timer for your wallplug mount: Perfect.
never even thought of that.
What a nice shop. It's so spotlessly clean and all the tools look brand new it looks like they were never used.
+AdrianM Thanks! Every once in awhile I post a picture of my vantage point in front of the camera and it is usually a pile of things I moved out of the scene to make things look better for video. That and I hate it looking messy so I blow it out with air often!
You have certainly thought your organization out well Paul-Marcel.
There doesn't seem to be an inch of wasted space.
And I have obtained a few ideas by watching this to help in my modest shop.
Thank you.
Thanks, Eric! Funny thing is, there are spots of chaos I'd like to fix someday, but that takes away the little time I have in there these days!
WOW!!!!! What a shop. Thanks for the tour. Now I will have to watch all of your other videos. You definitely have a mind towards organization. I never would have thought of these ideas. Maybe if I had a shop for years I might have stumbled upon some. Nice job.
Nicely organized and well equipped. Thnx for the tour. Lotsa gr8 organization ideas. I like all the sliding shelves.
Well done my friend. Your video was as efficient as your storage system. Watched it from beginning to end, thanks for sharing your ideas. All of us woodworkers are adapting our shops, yours is a good template to follow on many levels. Thanks!
Paul, I love this video! I found a bunch of ideas I would love to use for my shop space. What an efficient use of a small space. Looking forward to more video from you.
Great shop......with some awesome ideas. What impressed me the most is all the money you have invested....maybe someday I will have a shop like yours
Such a great Vid Paul,
thanks again for putting up the best festool / work shop videos online!
gonna copy a ton of these .
hope to see more vids soon.
all the Best
Ben
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I will be using the manual folders and scrap wood storage ideas at my place.
Thanks for the tour. I'm amazed at your clever use of space, especially the roll-out trays and fit-together storage. Love the side-on clamp storage and the manual containers - great ideas. I wouldn't keep your keyboard where dust falls on it but that's the only thing I saw that I'd change.
+GBV1436 Thanks! I'd have to re-watch the keyboard part, but the shelf is made to lay the keyboard with the keys down toward the cabinet; same with the trackpad. The shape of the Mac keyboards has a built-in handle of sorts on the underside so it was perfect. I should have made more of that; I used a Mac BlueTooth trackpad and keyboard on a Windows box because I didn't want wires and the Mac keyboard is small (and aluminum!) and that trackpad is awesome with no openings for dust. Great combo
I really liked the wireless keyboard and trackpad idea with a mounted monitor. I use a Mac Air but it'd be good to have the screen out of the way. Looking forward to more of your vids.
wow, you've got a solution for everything. I've picked up so many tips for my workshop. Many thanks from the UK
+Stuart McCloud Glad they helped, Stuart!
Fantastic video, thank you so much for creating it. You've given me loads of ideas. My work space is only 9x6 feet (after work bench and draws I have 20 square feet of floor / walk space total) lol. So I really need all the storage solutions I can find. Can't wait to implement some of the ideas you have given me. Thanks.
We need you back! Watched this again after some years and can still find ideas to steal.
Here here! Wonder why he stopped. 🤨
Great tour Paul and as per usual I find you informative, knowledgeable and entertaining. You pack a lot into the shop, very well thought out and functional. Keep up the great work
Gary Benjamin Thanks, Gary! Sometimes, I pack too much in that shop!!
Thanks for taking the time to do the video. Got some great ideas from it.
Great tips, great video! I saw a number of things I'll be using! Thank you so much!!! And those "Manual Holders" would be great sandpaper organizers.
Paul you have given the best shop tour I have ever seen. I have to say.. you started off the video and I was not sure how it was going to go. LOL! I enjoyed your uses for unused space. You have given me many ideas and I can't wait to organize my shop now. Thanks.
Have fun organizing it! Glad you liked it.
Wow, what a load of great ideas. I'm reorganising my workshop, yet again, soon and will be using some of these. Many thanks.
Incidentally, I find old kitchen cabinets ideal for the workshop. You can put boxes inside, mount tools on the inside and outside of the doors and there is a good worktop for placing tools in use.
Thanks, Graham... yes I used a lot of old cabinets after pulling some out of my house. In my case they were bathroom vanities, which are lower, smaller, and no shelves :-/ Kitchen cabinets would be awesome, though!
Very good idea for board drying racks. Nice shop
Thanks, Vince!
Thanks for the tour. I like your timer idea for your battery charger. Will copy that from you for sure as I really do not like leaving the batteries charging overnight. Cheers!!
Very well thought out shop. Thanks for sharing ur ideas n honesty about what works n what does not. Keep up the great work
Cameron2874 Thanks, Cameron!
just found your channel, some absolutely awesome organization tips, specially on the festool systainers and sortainers. definitely going to use your ideas.
+Galen Long Excellent! Glad you found them useful. If you scroll a bit, you'll see a comment from Capt K&B asking about the drawer construction (which I didn't go into). The comment explains how to lock Systainers into the shelf with minimal fuss.
really nice video and a SUPER organized shop. well done
Man I have to get my notebook out, there were several things you did that would be ideal for my shop. I envy the festool collection you have. I just recently got the domino and the small vacuum and a sander and love them and I really like the storage containers so I imagine those will be multiplying soon.
Thanks! Glad they helped... It's a slippery slope, those containers :) On the positive side, if you decide to get into competitive knitting and give up woodworking, you recoup a lot of the cost of Festool. At least I use that justification :)
Amazing shop and ideas Paul.
All morning I've been watching your videos lol
Your 4 part series on the domino 500, along with the current sale, is what made me jump on the green train. :-)
Keep it up.
Thanks! Ah, yes, the green train of tool debt :) If I had to give up all my Festools but one, I'd keep the Domino with no hesitation. Often called a game changer and you'll very likely agree. I need to roll a quick video for the crib-sheet series on something I just talked to someone about. Grab some scrap for playing with it; fantastically easy to use... once you learn it.
...and I finally have time for the shop so I'm heading out there to dovetail 4 drawers and just generally enjoy not being in front of the computer :)
Thanks Paul, I found several great ideas on your tour. I have the same Powermatic drill press & I think I will add that top tray as you did -- should be very useful. Ron
Love that shelf; so will you!
Loved the tour, and the tips!
I need to implement your manual storage in my shop. I have already been able to follow your example on top of the drill press. I attached an old drawer for many bits, chuck keys, and other accessories. Unlike you, putting slides on everything, my old drawer is stationary now! Thanks 😀!
You have nice workshop buddy... Thanks for give us ideas to get everything organised
I really like the videos man keep it up. great shop and thanks for the shop tour. Gave me some great ideas. I like the clamp rack. much better use of space.
Another GREAT video, a lot better than a shop tour. A lot of thought went into all those organizational ideas.
Thanks, Lance!
Another great video Paul!
Man you have a lot of good ideas in this video, thank you.
great video, efficient with info/editing. ta for the ideas. can't believe this is just a hobby setup.. if it's still sitting fairly idle maybe you could loan the space to some retired woodworker.. gift/auction the products to charity, or make critter/nesting boxes for your local wildlife or something (maybe this idea isn't ideal right now, but maybe down the track it will ripen). cheers from brisbane australia
Clamp rack tip was great! thanks for the tour Liked, subscribed rung the bell!
Looks really good, for a small space like that! THANKS!
thanks for the video just found your channel. I will use some of your tips for sure. Sometimes its the simplest things you over look or don't see. You have quite a few of those in this video. Thanks a bunch. Subbed and Liked.
+Greg Dent Glad they helped and thanks for the compliments :)
Just watched this all the way through then noticed the Rodrigo and Gabriella shirt very cool!
Very nice workshop, a lot of nice tip in this video
i enjoyed the video, nice use of space! you had to have spent a fortune on all those nice full extension drawer slides!
jon s Yeah, those full-extension slides can get pricey, but I bought mine from a guy making really nice ones that clocked in at around $6/pair when I bought them bulk. A 10 pack is cake when you're putting up so many like this. My original supplier doesn't do online anymore, but the slides are available through Amazon: www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_hi?ie=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=ProMark&node=228013
Ps I grabbed 2 pairs of the hearing protection you recommend, there really awesome . Thx
Nice shop, great ideas for efficiently working
I'm going to use your idea to make a rolling cabinet to utilize the space under my drill press table. Thanks.
Love the racks for stacking clamps inline from the wall idea. What tape dispenser are you using?
Thanks! The tape dispenser is from U-Line. It has 3 wheels for rolls so I keep a regular roll of Blue tape on one wheel and a wide roll of packing tape on the other two wheels. So ridiculously convenient. I've since bought a second for specialty tape. Also have a single-roll dispenser for the Shaper Origin tape.
Thanks for sharing very good storage ideas.
Some great ideas here, but I can’t get over what this set-up must have cost! Some American home workshops look more like large tool stores!
I do have to add another gr8 thing you did, is with those clear containers for all our paperwork, manuals, jig printouts, etc. I'm getting some o those. :)
Thanks, Roger! Dunno if you saw the link, but Lee Valley sells 2-packs of these right now on a limited buy: www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,51&p=59782
How are your various pull out shelves / Sustainer drawers put together? It looks like you are just attaching the drawer slides to the shelves themselves, maybe like 3/4" plywood. And then have a small front to hide the slides and act as a stop so items don't fall off. Im sure you have one in the back just narrower to fit between the slides and prevent items from falling off the back. Thanks.
+Capt.k&b These are super simple. Ply base, 3/4"x3/4" hardwood sides that are flush with the top, but used for the slides. Just a front to hide the edges and look cleaner (plus it acts at the front stop for the Systainers). In the back, I have a Domino sticking up from the shelf that fits into the notch in the side of the Systainer (since mine are in sideways). Locks it in perfectly. I think it was a 6mm Domino, but any size that fits in the notch is perfect. If you don't have a Domino, then insert a stick of dowel.
Timer for your charger! Genius... Thanks for this great idea...
Very usefull video, well explained. Thanks for sharing.
PS I'm looking forward to your Shop Organization Tips Episode 2 video.
2 in the front, 1 in the back... That drill press likes the bowling ball grip! bahahaha unintentional innuendo is great.
lots of good info for shop organization though. Good video man.
Great video work! I also enjoyed the video topic...very nice organizing tips. Back to the video; how did you record the audio, which I think is excellent? Thanks and keep up the great work!
that is one seriously organized shop. ... now i feel like a "pig"
lets see if i can implement some of those features.
thanks for posting that tour.
You're welcome! BTW, while it's organized, what you don't see is my view of the piles of stuff behind the camera to keep the shot clean :)
Thanks for the video, man. I probably can use 5 good ideas that apply to my work space. I am sure others picked up their own ideas for their own work spaces.
Thanks, Abu! A friend came over and told me to do an 'episode #2' with some things I didn't put in due to it being already too long. Might do that soon while waiting for finish to dry on Angle Madness...
good tips and better shorts lol keep up the education!
I like the way you think about storing stuff. Have you used the dead space on the header above your overhead door?
That's a great place for stuff for sure. I could actually build a low shelf up there and put more of those green crates I use up there as they'd just fit. So far, I haven't taken advantage of that mostly because when I'm not recording in winter, I keep the garage door open. Would be useful for lesser used stuff, for sure. I may keep it as my last-ditch storage area when I run out of other places (or just learn to quit buying stuff ;)
Man, I miss Paul Marcell so much. He was a big reason I got in to woodworking. Then one day, he just vanished.
Nice shop, why you don't made your own tape dispenser?
nice with pull out drawers. Thanks for video
Thanks for the video Paul, you have a lot of stuff!! Where did you find the plastic containers you put you manuals in?
Thanks! I just updated the blog article for this post (as the description of the video) to include a couple links for similar boxes. Give that a look. Very handy; you only saw half of how many I have as others are for house manuals, warranty receipts, and other awkward stuff like that.
Got some great ideas thanks.
where can I find those plastic "covers you show at the end that you keep your manuals in?
Paul, I own a Bridge City CT 11 12° Commemorative Plane. I believe you have one also. I had to remove the blade and have not been able to figure out the pin nut and pivot nut setting. The CT 12 had a instruction sheet, but not so with the 11. I would appreciate any assistance you can offer. The old day of calling John on the phone are gone for ever. Great video on the JM.
Many excellent ideas! Thanks. What is that little set of drawers with the purple latches, near the manuals? What do you keep in there?
Thanks, James!
I had to go look to see what you meant :) Those are Tanos micro Systainers. They were a promo item awhile ago on a great sale so I bought a bunch to give away. Did end up using a couple for small blades in a junk drawer.
Looks like Lee Valley still has some: www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=70828&cat=1,43326,68749
thank you that was nice, i got some pretty good ideas out of it. it also forces me to admit that my shop is incredibly dirty and cluttered.
Dirty and cluttered is the by-product of getting things done! Nothing wrong with that... right now, my shop looks like it went through coordinated aerial bombings :-/
where did you get the plastic containers for storing instruction manuals
dude you´d be a The Walking Dead survivor! Great video!
First of all, thank you for making this video, I really enjoyed seeing how you use space, but more importantly it taught me to look at things in a different way - use existing infrastructure to create storage ideas for a neater, more efficient space. So thank you. I have a question for you - the "sustainers," or white storage containers you have, I've seen these on "The Wood Whisperer's" channel as well. Are these common among woodworking enthusiasts? If so, why, and where do you get them. I can't seem to find them online, strangely enough. Why do you use these as opposed to other storage systems? I'm just curious because they look bulky, but there must be some benefit such as functionality, that I'm assuming make these better than other systems.
Hi Keith... The benefit is that they come with a Festool inside. Those are all the containers Festools are sold in with fitted interior so it's nice to simple store in them. That they have the same footprint and interlock is nice, too
Hi Paul, what brand are the japanese saw the ones with the gold ring
Woooh , That is really awesome , so Organized. wish I do the same , it would take me a lot of time since i am so messy :)
A couple people asked for a shop tour video, but I know it's only cuz they are looking in the background like we all do and wanna know what something is back there. That's this video :)
Do you recall what the plastic containers are called that you have your manuals in? That's a great idea and I'd like to buy some myself. I'm new to your chanel and a new subscriber. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on some Festool tools and have a lot to learn. Thank you.
Hi, coincidentally, Lee Valley has a special right now on them. I got an email a couple days ago about the special buy. If you visit my blog (HalfInchShy.com) you'll find links and information on other places to get them, but really the Lee Valley way will be the easiest. Two for $7ish. www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,51&p=59782
***** Thank you for the reply and link. I'll definitely check out you blog as well. Take care.
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Thanks for the ideas! Like Sam Witwiky stated.... I'm stealing from you as we speak.
Hi like your tour very organised
I was curious about your ceiling mounted light that looked very bright and out of the way that I saw in a different video... im wondering where you got it? I need something to light up my MFT work area.
hmm not sure which light you mean; I have florescent lights in the ceiling, but nothing attached to the ceiling. Ages ago I had a pool light in the shop, but you wouldn't mean that cuz it wasn't bright. Do you mean the desk light attached to the MFT? That's just a task light; I rotate the arm down low to get a raking light for sanding.
Col stuff... but that was a Shop Tour too... minus the machines that everyone has.
Nice shop! Do you have a jointer and thickness planer, and what bandsaw you're using now?
Thanh nguyen tien I have a Laguna jointer/planer combo and I still haven't sold my older PM20 planer. Turns out, I typically joint by hand so I really don't use the jointer part of the combo, which is why I'm selling it. I should have just done a helical head upgrade to the PM20, which I'll do after selling this combo. The bandsaw is an Italian-made LT-18 bandsaw from Laguna.
Great shop.Where did you get that small anvil
+Charlie Thompson That came from Lee Valley. I got it very nearly as a prop for videos since I'd make Roadrunner/Coyote jokes (I'm in Arizona after all), but I've used it several times!
Another great video, sir! Maybe next time you can give us a tour of your money printing machine? :)
Thanks! haha, I have no money printing machine... I also don't have a wife, ex-wife, or kids. Hmm, the lack of those might be the printing machine!
lol. I have an ex-wife I'll gladly trade ya for one of your green crates of off-falls!? She a great lady... and *really* easy to get along with.
And I think you maybe on to something with your deduction there...
So, you're clearly of an engineers mind if not one by education and/or trade... what area, if I may? EE?
Oh, I bet you want the furniture mover to go with the crate, too. :)
I'm a software engineer. Closest I come to being an EE is browsing the breadboard aisle at Fry's Electronics today to get wire to fix an eval board that broke on me today while testing firmware. Normally I do iOS apps for iPad, but this was something someone screwed up and dropped in my lap. I should learn to stand up faster before it lands :)
How 'bout you?
***** Oh no, I'd feel like I was stealing from ya if I asked you to include the furniture mover... she's not *that* great of a lady! :)
I'm an EE who specializes in PBC design and layout. I started with a coffee brewer company (Bunn's direct competitor) right out of school and had a boss who over many years taught me layout work. Was really cool to learn from someone who did it all without computers and on E+ sized paper. Its fun... but to be honest its just a game of 3D connect the dots with a TON of rules. Could pretty much teach a monkey to do my job... well at least *they* did! :)
The guys who botched this hardware product are a company of EEs who took an ST-Micro eval kit, assigned a non-software guy to make the firmware from sample code, and have had a hell of a time getting this simple product out. It is literally the eval board with 4-5 components removed from the I2C bus. The software looks like it got hit with a shrapnel grenade. Been using it as a loose spec for a month to rewrite it... goes to market in 26 days. It's why I'm so behind on my Angle Madness project and look like I abandoned things :)
You're fortunate that you learned from an old-school guy. I'm certain there are things you find easy to solve that newer EEs can't grasp. I find that with my CS degree: stuff I find simple since it was in my second year is lost on new grads, but still important (actually moreso important with multi-cores)
Okay, that was nerding on non-woodworking too much :)
Okay, I'll keep the furniture mover :)
Thanks that was very useful.
brilliant!!
Paul, great video. Incidentally, who manufactures that tape dispenser? I wanted to spare you the monotony of answering so I searched Amazon, Woodcraft, Rockler, and Lee Valley but I came up blanks. Help!
Thanks, Elliot... the tape dispenser is from ULine: www.uline.com/BL_7302/Multi-Roll-Tape-Dispensers
***** Thanks Paul. $4000+ dollars worth of Bridge City smoother planes sitting there unobtrusively made my bloody mouth water. I own a fair share of BCTW's stuff myself but I must say the beauty of their tools dissuades me from using them on occasion. Out of curiosity I've seen a few of those adjustable smoother planes on eBay over the years and I've been tempted to make a bid. Obviously no plane is worth $2000 but would you say their adjustable smoother is as useful as BCTW claim and does it function as flawlessly as one would imagine?
Again, thanks for your time and keep making your incredible videos, and in all seriousness, it will never cease to amaze me how a guy as uncomfortable in front of the camera as Tommy Mac can procure himself a network show while there's guys like you putting out FAR superior work via UA-cam. Get yourself a bloody agent and start peddling your style of show to the networks and regional TV. It sure would beat working for a living!!
It'd be interesting to know the replacement value of the shops contents. I'm naturally curious to know but in the event of a fire or significant loss by any accidental means, that $ figure could be of great value in the process of making a claim for loss with ones insurance contract. A video inventory of all contents with a verbal description and approximate age estimate could prove invaluable--not only for insurance but also for the sake of history--especially family history. Also--it'd be worth the time to write a letter to your insurer to confirm they're aware of the extraordinary replacement value of your shop and tools--otherwise they could argue the average value of a domestic shops contents is (say) $10,000 and perhaps successfully impose that figure within a settlement figure. A warning: Revelation of significant extraordinary value of insured goods could form the basis of a new and increased insurance policy premium. I'd estimate the replacement value of the contents (in this case) to be a six figure $ amount, Finally: thanks very much for the tour, I'm mightily and favourably impressed with you and your shop.
Thanks! I do routinely take a shop inventory video opening drawers, listing off contents and taking closeups of the serial numbers. After the first detailed one, I can do updates since the serial number of my sanders hasn't changed. I did talk to my insurance agent about it a long time ago, but it might be worth a verification call. Sadly, I think every insurance contract is written in a way to weasel out of things if they so desire.
And to anybody reading this comment, you definitely want to take periodic inventory videos. First one is long to do, subsequent 'updates' are much easier. Ages ago I'd do that with a tape camcorder and mail the tape to my parents' house so it would survive a fire. Now it is easier in that I can store it up on Dropbox.
Oh, and back to your original question, I don't know the replacement cost; not sure I want to know!! :)
Pardon the late reply, as I just found your channel. With regards to the HO insurance, you can always add a separate rider for valuables, such as tools, jewelry, guns, coin collection etc.
I highly recommend looking into it. You definitely want a top notch security system as well. Your Festool collection alone will pay for both for a year. By my estimate, you have $6-$8K in Festool, $2800 for the Sawstop, and $1800 just for the Laguna bandsaw, plus all the other stuff. If you added up the replacement cost for just the big items, you are EASILY at $30K. You NEED to insure that stuff. Don't ask me how i know.
Do they make your tee shirt in extra, extra, extra, extra large size Paul? It's a cool design. :)
+Jazzwayze The band is Rodrigo y Gabriela. I got it at a concert. Here it is in their merchandise store, but looks to be limited to XL right now: shop.rodgab.com/skulls-tee/
Link for tape dispenser??
DRY. FIT. DOMINOS!!!!!!!
Genius!
Any opinions on the Rustoleum Neverwet?
Not yet!
My shop sink gets ridiculously dirty from washing out glue, paints, whatever else. As all those are water-based and NeverWet is hydrophobic, I hope it will make the stuff find the drain rather than stick on the sides (even when I rinse it a lot!)
Neighbor is a plumber and will likely replace the faucet with a sprayer I found; that will help a lot. I plan on recording the application and see how glue sticks afterwards. It seems like an interesting product.
Is Emo Phillips your dad? The resemblance is amazing.
Nice shop. Is this for hobby projects only or your full time work?
N. Ismat thanks! It's for hobbies. Yes, I went overboard. I tend to do that. For example, I haven't been in the shop much the past year due to a bad new day job I need to change, and getting an interest in circus aerial arts. To that end, I now have a 25' aerial rig in the backyard. Crazy, I know! :)
Im assuming you live in Alberta, based on the plate hanging on your wall.where?, I'm just outside of Edmonton.
Cheers
cougar560427 I'm in Phoenix, Arizona :) But, I grew up in a small cowtown down south of you... Calgary, heard of it? :)
Very good video
Great ideas. I spotted an Alberta license plate. Is AB your location?'
Good eye :) That's where I grew up! In Calgary
name of your blog?
4:30 in and I got a gem of an idea from you. Thanks.
What is the box in the end? Please URL
I have updated the description of this video to include a link to my blog article for the video. I'll update that article with links to things people ask about.
I added two links for Amazon UK for those boxes (slim and deep). Hopefully you can use those to locate the equivalent in your area.