This video is a textbook-perfect 'how-to' on controlling wheel slip and properly firing a steam locomotive. Hats off to the crew here, they are true professionals.
Great stuff and a credit to people like you that braved the backwaters of China to get this small piece of railway history preserved for future generations to look at in disbelief.
The engine is the music, music I used to hear, as I lay in bed at night, in the 40s and 50s, as they shunted coal wagons for the Lister drive power station, in Liverpool...
makes you wonder what the emmisions would be on a properly fired engine like this. if they get them all to burn this clean, with oil going up, it would be nice to see steam on the main again
that steam chuffing in front of the stack is the steam exhaust for the air compressor all chinese engines are like that, just take a look at susquehanna #142
Open cast mines worldwide were once worked in the same way, with the rail tracks spiralling down into the bowls of the pit. Many used electric traction. Electric, Diesel-Electric, or dual power trucks of gigantic size now predominate, and its only a matter of time before Chinese mines adopt the state of the art.
Well done video! Did they have sand to increase traction? Unfortunate that the engine has no water tanks to add weight and increase adhesion. Excellent firing to conserve coal and reduce flue soot build-up rate.
John Brown It seems to be the air compressor, I don't know why it would be making air for so long after they got under way. Perhaps they are charging the big air chambers that can be seen under the cars which I assume are used to tip the car bodys to dump the loads.
I guess that engine got its train past the incline and on to leveler ground where it fairs better.Losing its speed on an incline just kills it power and if lost hard if not impossible to regain not enough space to get going frist.
I'm not sure if superfluous safety regalia is entirely superfluous, given what I've seen from videos of China... loco crews climbing on top of the boiler while on the move, and so on ...
they did a good job with the clean stack,but they needed to use more sand to keep from spinning the drivers and flat spotting the wheels and burning up the rain,also reduce the tonnage, black smoke is a foamer thing.A waste of fuel from a engine not properly being fired and ran.
To be honest here in our comfortable western areas - THIS is pure technical survival and has nothing in common with our beloved weekend steam rides.. At its basics, China is still at the level of our 1940 / 1950 technology (well, there are numerous poor people waiting to fill the gap of those who die during work and there is a daily battle of getting things done, before another piece of a machine is quitting service.
Great work by the fireman, as well. Squeaky clean exhaust...a true expert.
This video is a textbook-perfect 'how-to' on controlling wheel slip and properly firing a steam locomotive. Hats off to the crew here, they are true professionals.
Thanks for a great video. You were fortunate to witness such drama, they usually race up the incline with fully open regulator without a problem.
Great stuff and a credit to people like you that braved the backwaters of China to get this small piece of railway history preserved for future generations to look at in disbelief.
Not quite forgotten then, very good. Happy new year from Scotland...
Cool! Its nice to see that some Steam are in a daily service like this.
The engine is the music, music I used to hear, as I lay in bed at night, in the 40s and 50s, as they shunted coal wagons for the Lister drive power station, in Liverpool...
curves with gradients kill a train!! I know this from experience!
Very enjoyable watch - thanks for posting! Don't quite understand all the slipping, but great sound and drama.
Boy they really overload these poor Mikes. I guess they are trying to get as much out of them as possible before their boilers expire.
makes you wonder what the emmisions would be on a properly fired engine like this.
if they get them all to burn this clean, with oil going up, it would be nice to see steam on the main again
Oh, and the best part?
You didn't kill it with some crappy music =D
I still like the sound and seeing a steam engine work like it was built to do
Very good video, what's the other exaust, is it a condenser pump.
It looks like the track gang may have put something on the track.
No sand?
Nice clean fire - conserving coal?
Have they ever tried RUBBER tires?
more sand, more sand!!
that steam chuffing in front of the stack is the steam exhaust for the air compressor
all chinese engines are like that, just take a look at susquehanna #142
I used to live in West Derby and go on my bike to sit on the wall at the power station to do just that! Mainly WD's 2.8.0's as I remember.
coal, sweat and steam: sandaoing mine, pre-dieselisation
The Iowa Interstate Railroad operates tow Chinese 2-10-2s in my home state of Illinois and the neighboring state, Iowa. IAIS
Nice video, very well done.
Open cast mines worldwide were once worked in the same way, with the rail tracks spiralling down into the bowls of the pit.
Many used electric traction. Electric, Diesel-Electric, or dual power trucks of gigantic size now predominate, and its only a matter of time before Chinese mines adopt the state of the art.
I am a fan of a train! How I hope our government can keep some steam locomotive! Is really a pity!
Well done video!
Did they have sand to increase traction?
Unfortunate that the engine has no water tanks to add weight and increase adhesion.
Excellent firing to conserve coal and reduce flue soot build-up rate.
Good camera work.
Great to see such things thanks
Excellent video - can someone tell me if the steam coming from behind the chimney is just a safety valve please?
John Brown It seems to be the air compressor, I don't know why it would be making air for so long after they got under way. Perhaps they are charging the big air chambers that can be seen under the cars which I assume are used to tip the car bodys to dump the loads.
I guess that engine got its train past the incline and on to leveler ground where it fairs better.Losing its speed on an incline just kills it power and if lost hard if not impossible to regain not enough space to get going frist.
What?? No safety gear, close to the track and no-one got hurt! Wow. Would that make Workplace Health and Safety superfulous?
It's a wonder they even made the hill.
There's not much traction running steel on steel. Kind of like driving your car on ice, you need a careful hand on the throttle.
I'm not sure if superfluous safety regalia is entirely superfluous, given what I've seen from videos of China... loco crews climbing on top of the boiler while on the move, and so on ...
The enginemanship may have been good - but there was no need to slip, albeit
briefly, when going back DOWN the hill, surely!?!
good little Mikado she made it
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, I know I can!!
Just amazing!
they did a good job with the clean stack,but they needed to use more sand to keep from spinning the drivers and flat spotting the wheels and burning up the rain,also reduce the tonnage, black smoke is a foamer thing.A waste of fuel from a engine not properly being fired and ran.
Do they still use some of these anymore?
Theres less exhaust smoke there than if it was a Diesel.
How much longer will this mine be steam operated?
Looks like work, indeed...
If you were that driver you'd wish the track gang had the brains to get out of the way & let you keep moving.
Is this China, or maybe Mongolia, or maybe Africa?
so where is this at? i live in the USA lol
What number locomotive was it?
Deloreanman14, your profile picture is cool. :-)
I love chinas railways thay sill use steam
I don't understand : Chinese certainly know sand : there are tons of it where this train tries to push itself out of misery! Why don't they use it?
Look for "IAIS QJs" on UA-cam.
Or the exhaust blends in to China's air quality.
no, a five-coupler would even do it better...
a shay would have done it better
To be honest here in our comfortable western areas - THIS is pure technical survival and has nothing in common with our beloved weekend steam rides.. At its basics, China is still at the level of our 1940 / 1950 technology (well, there are numerous poor people waiting to fill the gap of those who die during work and there is a daily battle of getting things done, before another piece of a machine is quitting service.
So, how come that every piece of electrical equipment and everything else you own has the "Made in China" on it.
on ku mun 69 vutiaan pumpun saunduti t kujakatti3
gata love chinas steam trains
Job for a diesel