Cmon the cheeky ching ching things are the best things about Haken :P I hoped that you would get the other references from Vector, though p.s. ectobius rex quite literally means "cockroach king" in latin
Without those elements you don't like, Haken wouldn't stand out as much. Then they would be just another band with not as strong identity. And having the contrast makes the impact of each part that much stronger. Personally I was not surprised by which parts you liked and which parts you didn't, but I was surprised you didn't pick out a single callback to Vector, like the part from Host in Ivory Tower, and the part from Puzzle Box in A glutton for punishment. Those are important, since Virus is kind of part 2 of Vector. As for Invasion, one of my personal favorites, I was a little more surprised. To me the vocals are just beautiful in that song, and I like the lyrics too (less Important though). My guess is that the song will grow on you, but of course I might be wrong. And the beauty of that is that it's ok!
Agreed to the final sentiment. It's hard enough to pick up everything on a first listen, but I am not also versed in had Haken enough yet to get references yet 😊
@@captainmorgan1978 For sure there's a lot to digest. I love it when there's a lot of details to discover upon further listening. Btw, thanks for mentioning Caligula's Horse! Although I actually haven't watched your reactions to them, I've checked them out on my own. And I love what I've heard so far! I prefer to listen and form my own opinion before I see a reaction, as I don't want my opinion to be too influenced by others. But I will check them out in due time.
@@captainmorgan1978 Well...as I said, I have really liked what I've heard so far. And I've listened to their last 3 albums basically. I don't feel like I have enough spare time for a reaction channel, so it's not something I have really considered. But who knows, in 20 years, when I'm 70 and can hopefully retire and relax, maybe then I'll consider it!
This song took me a few listens to warm up to, I loved the references to a few songs from vector/cockroach king, one song I'd reccomend is Crystallized by Haken, it's their best song imo
Messiah Complex is looking to be my favorite song of the year. I can't stop listening to it Morgan. It's taken hold of my life over the last few months. I think I might need help. In all seriousness, good to hear you dug at least 3/5's of MC. I definitely think it's possible Marigold and The Sect might grow on you if only in the context of the rest of the suite, but I can also see them not, so, just have to see on that. And I agree that Only Stars is beautiful.
Marigold grew on me too. It is very very spastic with the time signature changes. That is one skill area I think Haken has over a good many prog acts out there is their ability to really mash up the time signatures and nail it so mechanically perfect (Nil by mouth was flawless live when I saw them). Marigold lays it on thick. Once you hear it 3-4 times you start to memorize the changes and licks and it no longer sounds nonsensical. Once you can tap it out while listening it just starts to make more sense. And being a drummer I think Morgan can easily get there. Can’t necessarily help the taste discrepancy in the CK callback moments in The Sect. It is what it is. Pretty much all of The Sect and the first half of Ectobius Rex are direct and literal echoes of CK. Lyrically and otherwise. Same melodic themes, same gentle giant style harmonies. I’m rambling now
That part during A Glutton for Punishment when you said you couldnt stop smiling. . . I was the same exact way upon first listen. Permagrin for the win. Great react as always!
Did you recognice the Reprise of "Where i end you'll begin, when i fall, you will stand" lyric and melody at the end of Ivory Tower taken from Vectors 'Host'? It also comes up in 'Clear', the Vector Intro and 'Only Stars'. Or the "Parasite, leech upon the guilt (from all my wrongs)" in the second part referencing Puzzle Box? And yes, in the Final part the "oooh" melody was a callback to Prostethic! Btw I also love Carousel und The Strain (but also Invasion) more than Messiah Complex, although MC is also Killer!
@@captainmorgan1978 it sure is! Well you said you can relisten to them freely now, so enjoy finding those :) Looking forward for CHs Album Wrap next Monday. Love from Germany
Nice reaction of the new album by Haken, Is incredible AND best álbum for me, although the other albums are not far behind, they are very epic! Greetings from Argentina and a big hug.
Love the reaction. You should definitely check out and do a reaction of Bent Knee: Being Human Link here to a great live video here: ua-cam.com/video/q0kl-gQucpI/v-deo.html Bent Knee has toured with haken, and The guitar player and bass player (Ben Levin, Jessica Kion) played on Richard Henshalls (Hakens Guitarist) solo album, The Cocoon, which is also awesome. fun fact: ectobius rex is latin for cockroach king
What will be interesting is to see what direction they go when crafting their next album. Because they’ve kind of gone all over the map on the progressive landscape. There are moments in Aquarius where they actually dabble in some doom metal style moments. They’ve definitely trended more toward technical/heavy/djent the past two albums. I wouldn’t be disappointed or surprised if they do more of the same in the future, but I expect them to change it up
I really hope they change direction again. I do not dislike the djenty stuff, but it feels quite anonymous to me. I mean there's plenty of djent bands out there right now. What sets Haken apart (as Ole Morten Persen commented above) are things like their use of melody and the sonic textures.
@@MM876543210 Richard henshall’s solo album style would be nice to see them explore more. It’s proggy and heavy but about 40-50% of it is more of a swing/lounge/jazz sound which I really really love
Glad to see you finish up the Album. Not suprised that Cockroach King did not end up being your thing but worth giving it a shot. In terms of other Haken when you choose to return to them, im not sure there is much left without some of the aspects you are not into. They have more good stuff with the Carni type sections sprinkled in. Crystalized is a great song with great melodic and heavy parts but also a few minutes if things that im not sure you would be about at the start. Also has a sick Acappella section.
Love the content man. Next time you revisited Haken I'd recommend the minds eye, portals and, shapeshifter. Its from visions and since you want to get into their old stuff these are great consecutive tracks to listen too. Did you recognize the ties to vector this album has? Keep this stuff up I love the reaction videos.
I had a pretty similar reaction to Messiah Complex as you, told my buddy after listening that it felt like it needed to just be smoothed out into one ~23 minute song. A couple more solos (guitar, bass, and keys all welcome) would've been a good tension relief too. Favorite on the album is easily Carousel (tho I'm still not a huge fan of the (lack of) transition out of the guitar solos), followed by The Strain (which grew a ton on me), Prosthetic, and Invasion (great modern prog-metal song, but not catchy to me). Parts of Messiah Complex are incredible, but to me none of its 5 parts feel like a true complete song and put together, again, it still is herky Jerry. Is the rest of The Mountain coming up soon for you? I was afraid you wouldn't care for Cockroach King, but I think you'll love the rest (including Falling Back to Earth and Somebody). Also, you should revisit Thank You Scientist. Here is a great quality live recording of one of their songs from their album Terraformer (which is so good it should just be listened from front to back, but exceptions can be made and you already heard Chromology) ua-cam.com/video/TQwJTga7lbE/v-deo.html
I think this is my favorite song from Haken. I love how tight and how many references they make to other songs and themes. The song has a lot of fan service though, especially with all the references and Hakenisms, and if that turns you off then I get it. I personally think the whole song fits together, but I don't know if that is just because I get the musical references and how they interplay or if I am just entranced. One aspect to Haken that's morphed through the years is that they've gotten more concise and to the point. It's kind of like poetry in that they are trying to say a lot of things in a few words, meaning that they aren't really padding their music out and trying to be efficient. Could be seen as good or bad. A lot of people with Vector came out because they thought the ideas could be more fully explored and some of the songs made longer, and while I like that as well, the approach they have been taking is to make their music more dense.
Dang, unfortunately couldn't be at the première again :).... Glad you reacted to this. My predictions on your taste on CK came a bit true after all :D. I still like songs like CK, Marigold and the Sect but I do also think they are not as cohesive, woulda been great if A Glutton for Punishment extended the buildup and tried more in it's heavy style. I grew up with Aquarius and the cheesyness on their old albums worked for me, because the songs were softer and it was often a baseline with a "karnivool" sound on top. This was like... extremely bold and random for me and it didn't work unfortunately even for my taste. Nevertheless this album is very enjoyable! :) I got a question......Maybe a lot to ask but.... been some weeks since you last reacted to Riverside and I'd love to hear you explore it more! :) I'm getting like this itchy feeling, haha. Would love it so much if you could do a start on the Second Life Syndrome album, (like first 2 songs). It's one of my all-time favourite albums that I wish I could hear again for the first time from start to finish and would love to see the look on your face.
I'm surprised you gave a thumbs down to Marigold as they only parts of the song during the video you showed you didn't like were all in the sect, which when the sect started you brought up that it started to feel a bit out of place. Maybe you misplaced the end and start of those two?
Thumbs down for Marigold?? Bro... C’mon, seriously? lol. Listen to it again. That MASSIVE riff with the insane run in between, the jazzy intro, the vocals and chorus especially with Ross’ long note. There’s nothing in there that a prog-metal head wouldn’t like. In fairness, Messiah Complex is precisely that: complex. Takes time to digest. It’s also filled with throwbacks to many tracks, not just CK. Glad you enjoyed nonetheless.
Completely respect the opinion on the more random and crazy parts of Halen, I happen to disagree myself but I do respect it! Just out of curiosity though, you always say that Dream Theater is your all time favorite band but in my opinion they are WAY more guilty of completely random sections and complete non cohesiveness in their songs with massive, weird sections just for the sake of it (I also love Dream Theater btw). Is there a video where the Cap talks about those sections in Dream Theater, does he dislike those as much as when Halen does it?
My favorite band is also DT. This is by far my favorite album from haken. Kinda like DT I also really cringe at a lot of the random chiney noises that don’t seem to serve a purpose besides being quirky. But I also recognize that without that they wouldn’t stand out so much. Good reaction captainmorgan.
It’s a shame because without the weird ass video game noise breaks and chimey shit from a glutton for punishment and the sect they would have been personal perfection for me. Right up my alley. But hey that’s part of haken’s identity
Yea, luckily DT rarely does the quirky bits, enough that I don't care bc they are usually always short and sweet. Haken, on the other hand, devotes whole songs to it which is enough for me to bow out of those particular songs...but hell, they are tied for my top fav band right now. AND, I will be seeing them in Feb in Cincy at Bogarts which is where I also saw DT during the Metropolis 2 Scenes from a Memory tour too!! CANNOT WAIT! Cheers! hope to see you in a live chat sometime. There is one tomorrow but right now it is blocked :(
Yeah, knew you wouldn't care for some of the parts. Dream Theater sometimes does this too (but not long). I cringe a little but understand that they (Haken) are experimenting with different stuff. I would prefer that experimentation with some cringes than not trying anything new. Honestly, there's only about a minute and a half that bother me....I'll get over it. Some other suggestions, check our Circus Maximus if you haven't....start with 'Sin' off their first. Oh, and hearing you're back here in Columbus....BREWDOG!
I agree it wasn't very much of the album which is why I liked most of the album. I cringe when DT does it too , but I think it is few and far between. Brewdog huh? I went to Seventh Sons and wtf is up with Cbus only having IPA choices and little Stout? And wtf is this White Claw shit? lol Edumacate me man!lol
@@captainmorgan1978 Can't speak for the beer choices in CBUS other than BrewDog is the largest brewer in the region and mostly brew IPA. They are my customer and have made me a fan of IPA. They brew a lot of different stuff and try new flavors all the time. The brewery itself is worth checking out...they have a hotel attached to it! The rooms have taps in them and refrigerator in the shower for shower beer (which I guess is a thing). They have over 16 breweries in Europe and CBUS is their first in the US with plans to open in the west. I am a fan of their Hazy Jane (7.2%IBV) and Clockwork Tangerine. A lot of people dig the Elvis Juice and they do have a Lager they put out. Not sure about the White Claw stuff....after having IPA, everything else tastes like water lol.
The sect is my favourite part I don't really like to listen to Messiah complex because the parts don't really fit in my opinion and I don't see the parts as songs for themselves😅 But the music itself is great Carousel is definetly my favourite Great that you like Canary Yellow more. I also didn't like it the first time I heard it but after a few listens I loved it This is my favourite album of the year
Dude please, try To-mera, surely you will not regret :( ( Inside the Hourglass, the illusionist, Obscure Oblivion...) these are some songs, greetings from Venezuela :)
Haken is one of my favorite bands ever and cockroach king is literally my least favorite song by them, it annoys the hell out of me, i was assuming you would not like it as well. Since "virus" was released messiah complex grew to become my favorite haken song ever, with the sect being my favorite part 😂😂😂, thats just how it goes sometimes... that part when the blast beast comes in always leaves me wishing that haken just randomly drop a full on thrash metal album, i know thats very unlikely but since they completed the vector/virus saga, i think they will probably do something out of their confort zone next time, and i know i can expect anything from these maniacs.
Thanks for your honest opinion. This song to me sounds like a failed attempt of idea-recycling, overusing themes with no connection at all. Virus is a 6.5/10 to me, maybe a 7 combined with Vector. "The Cocoon" by Richard Henshall (Haken's main composer and guitarist) is far superior in every aspect.
The Cocoon is amazing but i wouldnt say far superior than this album in every aspect. Guitar solos yes, but i prefer the vocals on Virus and the drums and heaviness of Virus is also just so different than The Cocoon its hard to compare really. Richard Henshall certainly loves jazz is all we know for sure bc his album is very jazzy and so is Haken at times. So id say it all boils down to musical taste and preference as always but for sure the captain should check out The Cocoon
Cmon the cheeky ching ching things are the best things about Haken :P I hoped that you would get the other references from Vector, though
p.s. ectobius rex quite literally means "cockroach king" in latin
Without those elements you don't like, Haken wouldn't stand out as much. Then they would be just another band with not as strong identity. And having the contrast makes the impact of each part that much stronger. Personally I was not surprised by which parts you liked and which parts you didn't, but I was surprised you didn't pick out a single callback to Vector, like the part from Host in Ivory Tower, and the part from Puzzle Box in A glutton for punishment. Those are important, since Virus is kind of part 2 of Vector. As for Invasion, one of my personal favorites, I was a little more surprised. To me the vocals are just beautiful in that song, and I like the lyrics too (less Important though). My guess is that the song will grow on you, but of course I might be wrong. And the beauty of that is that it's ok!
Agreed to the final sentiment. It's hard enough to pick up everything on a first listen, but I am not also versed in had Haken enough yet to get references yet 😊
@@captainmorgan1978 For sure there's a lot to digest. I love it when there's a lot of details to discover upon further listening. Btw, thanks for mentioning Caligula's Horse! Although I actually haven't watched your reactions to them, I've checked them out on my own. And I love what I've heard so far! I prefer to listen and form my own opinion before I see a reaction, as I don't want my opinion to be too influenced by others. But I will check them out in due time.
@@chessbrainiac will be interested to hear your thoughts when you listen... Maybe start your own reaction channel 😊
@@captainmorgan1978 Well...as I said, I have really liked what I've heard so far. And I've listened to their last 3 albums basically. I don't feel like I have enough spare time for a reaction channel, so it's not something I have really considered. But who knows, in 20 years, when I'm 70 and can hopefully retire and relax, maybe then I'll consider it!
Yesss, glad you finished it man haha
Ivory Tower is by far my fav song on the album and has become my favorite Haken song period. The lyrics and rhythm are top fucking notch.
Scratch that, I found Falling Back to Earth lmao Now that's a prog monster!
This song took me a few listens to warm up to, I loved the references to a few songs from vector/cockroach king, one song I'd reccomend is Crystallized by Haken, it's their best song imo
Ive been suggesting that song forever. I think the captain would like the whole Restoration ep honestly.
This. Do Crystallised next!
Messiah Complex is looking to be my favorite song of the year. I can't stop listening to it Morgan. It's taken hold of my life over the last few months. I think I might need help.
In all seriousness, good to hear you dug at least 3/5's of MC. I definitely think it's possible Marigold and The Sect might grow on you if only in the context of the rest of the suite, but I can also see them not, so, just have to see on that. And I agree that Only Stars is beautiful.
Cheers!
Marigold grew on me too. It is very very spastic with the time signature changes. That is one skill area I think Haken has over a good many prog acts out there is their ability to really mash up the time signatures and nail it so mechanically perfect (Nil by mouth was flawless live when I saw them). Marigold lays it on thick. Once you hear it 3-4 times you start to memorize the changes and licks and it no longer sounds nonsensical. Once you can tap it out while listening it just starts to make more sense. And being a drummer I think Morgan can easily get there. Can’t necessarily help the taste discrepancy in the CK callback moments in The Sect. It is what it is. Pretty much all of The Sect and the first half of Ectobius Rex are direct and literal echoes of CK. Lyrically and otherwise. Same melodic themes, same gentle giant style harmonies.
I’m rambling now
@@rustyshackelford4503 Good stuff though :)
Can't wait to hear your reaction to Messiah Complex
Judging from the happy face he has from the thumbnail, I'd like to think the video is MC
Dude if you hate cheesy Haken you should listen to Crystallized, you're gonna absolutely hate it
haha sounds very tempting! lol
Cheese, could be found between your toes, rotten and stinky. ;)
That part during A Glutton for Punishment when you said you couldnt stop smiling. . . I was the same exact way upon first listen. Permagrin for the win. Great react as always!
Did you recognice the Reprise of "Where i end you'll begin, when i fall, you will stand" lyric and melody at the end of Ivory Tower taken from Vectors 'Host'? It also comes up in 'Clear', the Vector Intro and 'Only Stars'. Or the "Parasite, leech upon the guilt (from all my wrongs)" in the second part referencing Puzzle Box? And yes, in the Final part the "oooh" melody was a callback to Prostethic! Btw I also love Carousel und The Strain (but also Invasion) more than Messiah Complex, although MC is also Killer!
Yea it's tough to get things on a first listen... So no I didn't get it lol
@@captainmorgan1978 it sure is! Well you said you can relisten to them freely now, so enjoy finding those :)
Looking forward for CHs Album Wrap next Monday.
Love from Germany
Nice reaction of the new album by Haken, Is incredible AND best álbum for me, although the other albums are not far behind, they are very epic! Greetings from Argentina and a big hug.
Thanks... I am realllly liking this album... Messiah Complex V is my fav for the gym!
Ectobius Rex = Latin for Cockroach King lol. True story
Great reaction as always! Bit of an easter egg: "ectobius rex" literally translates to "cockroach king"
Yup a few other comments also said that lol
I looooove Haken and CH. I think you’d really
enjoy New Day by Karnivool!!
YES gotta get some VOOL!
Love the reaction. You should definitely check out and do a reaction of Bent Knee: Being Human
Link here to a great live video here: ua-cam.com/video/q0kl-gQucpI/v-deo.html
Bent Knee has toured with haken, and The guitar player and bass player (Ben Levin, Jessica Kion) played on Richard Henshalls (Hakens Guitarist) solo album, The Cocoon, which is also awesome.
fun fact: ectobius rex is latin for cockroach king
Love Bent Knee. So much better live than studio too!
@@paravarium Yes. I saw them with thank you scientist last year. the energy they exude is unmatched.
What will be interesting is to see what direction they go when crafting their next album. Because they’ve kind of gone all over the map on the progressive landscape. There are moments in Aquarius where they actually dabble in some doom metal style moments. They’ve definitely trended more toward technical/heavy/djent the past two albums. I wouldn’t be disappointed or surprised if they do more of the same in the future, but I expect them to change it up
I really hope they change direction again. I do not dislike the djenty stuff, but it feels quite anonymous to me. I mean there's plenty of djent bands out there right now. What sets Haken apart (as Ole Morten Persen commented above) are things like their use of melody and the sonic textures.
@@MM876543210 Richard henshall’s solo album style would be nice to see them explore more. It’s proggy and heavy but about 40-50% of it is more of a swing/lounge/jazz sound which I really really love
Glad to see you finish up the Album. Not suprised that Cockroach King did not end up being your thing but worth giving it a shot. In terms of other Haken when you choose to return to them, im not sure there is much left without some of the aspects you are not into. They have more good stuff with the Carni type sections sprinkled in. Crystalized is a great song with great melodic and heavy parts but also a few minutes if things that im not sure you would be about at the start. Also has a sick Acappella section.
I will do Crystallized at some point been called for a lot.
@@captainmorgan1978 by me like 10 times lol
@@ryanmcgill5048 yup lol
Love the content man. Next time you revisited Haken I'd recommend the minds eye, portals and, shapeshifter. Its from visions and since you want to get into their old stuff these are great consecutive tracks to listen too. Did you recognize the ties to vector this album has? Keep this stuff up I love the reaction videos.
I didn't recognize a lot but some, mostly I recognized only CK
It sounded like to me at least they played on puzzle box and clear. Only stars being a version of clear with lyrics pretty much
@@KnowSt7ff I will listen for it when it comes on the shuffle next
Love the Haken vids! Keep it up chap
I love them too! Thanks!
Pain of Salvation - "Falling & The Perfect Element"!!
Seconded!
I disagree. You need the whole album to appreciate what’s happening in the last 2 tracks.
I had a pretty similar reaction to Messiah Complex as you, told my buddy after listening that it felt like it needed to just be smoothed out into one ~23 minute song. A couple more solos (guitar, bass, and keys all welcome) would've been a good tension relief too.
Favorite on the album is easily Carousel (tho I'm still not a huge fan of the (lack of) transition out of the guitar solos), followed by The Strain (which grew a ton on me), Prosthetic, and Invasion (great modern prog-metal song, but not catchy to me). Parts of Messiah Complex are incredible, but to me none of its 5 parts feel like a true complete song and put together, again, it still is herky Jerry.
Is the rest of The Mountain coming up soon for you? I was afraid you wouldn't care for Cockroach King, but I think you'll love the rest (including Falling Back to Earth and Somebody).
Also, you should revisit Thank You Scientist. Here is a great quality live recording of one of their songs from their album Terraformer (which is so good it should just be listened from front to back, but exceptions can be made and you already heard Chromology) ua-cam.com/video/TQwJTga7lbE/v-deo.html
Falling Back to Earth and Somebody are both on his channel :).
@@Japie__ precisely, and there's more from where they came from
I think this is my favorite song from Haken. I love how tight and how many references they make to other songs and themes. The song has a lot of fan service though, especially with all the references and Hakenisms, and if that turns you off then I get it. I personally think the whole song fits together, but I don't know if that is just because I get the musical references and how they interplay or if I am just entranced.
One aspect to Haken that's morphed through the years is that they've gotten more concise and to the point. It's kind of like poetry in that they are trying to say a lot of things in a few words, meaning that they aren't really padding their music out and trying to be efficient. Could be seen as good or bad. A lot of people with Vector came out because they thought the ideas could be more fully explored and some of the songs made longer, and while I like that as well, the approach they have been taking is to make their music more dense.
Dang, unfortunately couldn't be at the première again :).... Glad you reacted to this. My predictions on your taste on CK came a bit true after all :D. I still like songs like CK, Marigold and the Sect but I do also think they are not as cohesive, woulda been great if A Glutton for Punishment extended the buildup and tried more in it's heavy style. I grew up with Aquarius and the cheesyness on their old albums worked for me, because the songs were softer and it was often a baseline with a "karnivool" sound on top. This was like... extremely bold and random for me and it didn't work unfortunately even for my taste. Nevertheless this album is very enjoyable! :)
I got a question......Maybe a lot to ask but.... been some weeks since you last reacted to Riverside and I'd love to hear you explore it more! :) I'm getting like this itchy feeling, haha. Would love it so much if you could do a start on the Second Life Syndrome album, (like first 2 songs). It's one of my all-time favourite albums that I wish I could hear again for the first time from start to finish and would love to see the look on your face.
A couple of things to finish out before but I will get back to them fir sure
@@captainmorgan1978 No problem man, take your time :). Hope you're doing good back in the US.
I'm surprised you gave a thumbs down to Marigold as they only parts of the song during the video you showed you didn't like were all in the sect, which when the sect started you brought up that it started to feel a bit out of place. Maybe you misplaced the end and start of those two?
Thumbs down for Marigold??
Bro... C’mon, seriously? lol. Listen to it again. That MASSIVE riff with the insane run in between, the jazzy intro, the vocals and chorus especially with Ross’ long note. There’s nothing in there that a prog-metal head wouldn’t like.
In fairness, Messiah Complex is precisely that: complex. Takes time to digest. It’s also filled with throwbacks to many tracks, not just CK.
Glad you enjoyed nonetheless.
Completely respect the opinion on the more random and crazy parts of Halen, I happen to disagree myself but I do respect it!
Just out of curiosity though, you always say that Dream Theater is your all time favorite band but in my opinion they are WAY more guilty of completely random sections and complete non cohesiveness in their songs with massive, weird sections just for the sake of it (I also love Dream Theater btw). Is there a video where the Cap talks about those sections in Dream Theater, does he dislike those as much as when Halen does it?
...wondering when you would do this!
Do what? You don't know what it is yet lol
@@captainmorgan1978 check twitter. Unfortunately we can see it in the description.
@@Atozmos wah wah lol
Pain of Salvation - ICON
crazy cause i thought the sect, pt 4, was the best part in messiah complex 💀
The drop in V can't be best lol
You crazy guys, INVASION IS AMAZING 🚀
My favorite band is also DT. This is by far my favorite album from haken. Kinda like DT I also really cringe at a lot of the random chiney noises that don’t seem to serve a purpose besides being quirky. But I also recognize that without that they wouldn’t stand out so much. Good reaction captainmorgan.
It’s a shame because without the weird ass video game noise breaks and chimey shit from a glutton for punishment and the sect they would have been personal perfection for me. Right up my alley. But hey that’s part of haken’s identity
Yea, luckily DT rarely does the quirky bits, enough that I don't care bc they are usually always short and sweet. Haken, on the other hand, devotes whole songs to it which is enough for me to bow out of those particular songs...but hell, they are tied for my top fav band right now. AND, I will be seeing them in Feb in Cincy at Bogarts which is where I also saw DT during the Metropolis 2 Scenes from a Memory tour too!! CANNOT WAIT! Cheers! hope to see you in a live chat sometime. There is one tomorrow but right now it is blocked :(
Yup that's prog for you tho. There's plenty of straight metal bands who do all of the grooves without that stuff
LOL because of you I'm starting to like the album more....
I don't know why Haken fans are disappointed with it so many good songs and definitely on the heavier side but I love it.
Yeah, knew you wouldn't care for some of the parts. Dream Theater sometimes does this too (but not long). I cringe a little but understand that they (Haken) are experimenting with different stuff. I would prefer that experimentation with some cringes than not trying anything new. Honestly, there's only about a minute and a half that bother me....I'll get over it. Some other suggestions, check our Circus Maximus if you haven't....start with 'Sin' off their first. Oh, and hearing you're back here in Columbus....BREWDOG!
I agree it wasn't very much of the album which is why I liked most of the album. I cringe when DT does it too , but I think it is few and far between.
Brewdog huh? I went to Seventh Sons and wtf is up with Cbus only having IPA choices and little Stout? And wtf is this White Claw shit? lol Edumacate me man!lol
@@captainmorgan1978 Can't speak for the beer choices in CBUS other than BrewDog is the largest brewer in the region and mostly brew IPA. They are my customer and have made me a fan of IPA. They brew a lot of different stuff and try new flavors all the time. The brewery itself is worth checking out...they have a hotel attached to it! The rooms have taps in them and refrigerator in the shower for shower beer (which I guess is a thing). They have over 16 breweries in Europe and CBUS is their first in the US with plans to open in the west. I am a fan of their Hazy Jane (7.2%IBV) and Clockwork Tangerine. A lot of people dig the Elvis Juice and they do have a Lager they put out. Not sure about the White Claw stuff....after having IPA, everything else tastes like water lol.
@@MrScary67 great description!
The sect is my favourite part
I don't really like to listen to Messiah complex because the parts don't really fit in my opinion and I don't see the parts as songs for themselves😅 But the music itself is great
Carousel is definetly my favourite
Great that you like Canary Yellow more. I also didn't like it the first time I heard it but after a few listens I loved it
This is my favourite album of the year
Carousel 100! :)
the white background is burning my eyes . great video though
Yeah, I want a Captain Morgan Dark Mode
Dude please, try To-mera, surely you will not regret :( ( Inside the Hourglass, the illusionist, Obscure Oblivion...) these are some songs, greetings from Venezuela :)
React to vildhjärta Please!!
Haken is one of my favorite bands ever and cockroach king is literally my least favorite song by them, it annoys the hell out of me, i was assuming you would not like it as well. Since "virus" was released messiah complex grew to become my favorite haken song ever, with the sect being my favorite part 😂😂😂, thats just how it goes sometimes... that part when the blast beast comes in always leaves me wishing that haken just randomly drop a full on thrash metal album, i know thats very unlikely but since they completed the vector/virus saga, i think they will probably do something out of their confort zone next time, and i know i can expect anything from these maniacs.
Thanks for your honest opinion. This song to me sounds like a failed attempt of idea-recycling, overusing themes with no connection at all. Virus is a 6.5/10 to me, maybe a 7 combined with Vector. "The Cocoon" by Richard Henshall (Haken's main composer and guitarist) is far superior in every aspect.
The Cocoon is amazing but i wouldnt say far superior than this album in every aspect. Guitar solos yes, but i prefer the vocals on Virus and the drums and heaviness of Virus is also just so different than The Cocoon its hard to compare really. Richard Henshall certainly loves jazz is all we know for sure bc his album is very jazzy and so is Haken at times. So id say it all boils down to musical taste and preference as always but for sure the captain should check out The Cocoon
Even Richard knows Cocoon is more of a side project. Haken is steady and winning hearts!