The change in weapon model visuals is due to Valve changing the v_models (what you see in first person) and w_models (what you see other players hold) into c_models (arms are their own model, and the weapons are now a single model) Making it a lot more economical when it comes to how much drive space the game takes up, due to the sheer amount of weapons you have in modern TF2, otherwise they would need to create a two models, one that's a lot more detailed that you see in first person, and one less detailed that you see others hold. this also meant two versions of the textures, detailed & less detailed.
I had 500 hours on this before migrating to the pc version earlier this year. The community is still strong and it's a lot more fun then it looks, side effect of course being I preform better in TF2 Pc with a controller then I do WASD lmao
Thank you Apocalyptic Scott the Woz. Very cool video. Also fun fact, from time to time EA tried several times to get the servers down, but each time there was enough backlash from the community that they had to bring them back up lol
@@marcowulliampopirers2216 another person is gonna question it and then like 5 months later with 50 responses of "when did EA do this to TF2 Xbox 360?" we'll get the anwser
For people out of the loop, somehow EA was in charge of managing servers on ps3 tf2. Xbox 360 got the better deal with player hosted servers. Meaning technically if Xbox live supported the ability to play this game (thanks Xbox one backward compat) you can continue hosting your own servers forever and not have to worry about a shutdown like ps3 tf2 or halo 3 Xbox 360 etc. Even more fun fact. The leaderboards for Xbox 360 tf2 are hosted by a server and to this day reset every few months to clean the leaderboard. The leaderboard server (managed by someone unknown) has gone down for a few days and during that time when trying to load leaderboards it was blank.
I hate to bring negative criticism but this means a lot. Sort of a disservice to the dying but somehow still there community that plays this game online during day hours. I know it was an apocalyptic review but if you span the apocalypse being tf2 bot crisis and you came to xbox for safety it would have been way more fleshed out.
the orange box servers have been abandoned. I try to find games but its completely empty. Apparently the servers went down which caused people to leave and when it was fixed the damage was already done and nobody came back.
@@xChillDudex Really? Ever time I open the game to look there was nothing. Usually there was lots of servers but now all it is is the sound of the wind in the background, empty. So I stopped trying.
@@keybladegames_real try the discord for more help discord (.io) /TF2-XBOX-COMMUNITY There's definitely still people playing. you can see from the public leaderboards that reset periodically every month to 3 that there's over 1500 people who have completed a match and the server ended. This isn't an enormous number but when all you need to play is 15 other people it's easier than you think during day hours when the game is active. Game is active from 8am pst to 10pm pst. Some nights it goes longer. I can tell you from personal experience during the last 10 months of playing again, there are a lot of people. Many names you will see again and again but many new faces too. Real fun is still there.
Thank you! While it is kind of a contrived concept, it can make for a really fun challenge to review games, especially if multiplayer is such a big component. Making more of these is definitely something I'd like to do.
Loved the vid! It has the same energy as a nostalgic watch of your (now popular) favorite channel. Keep making content man, it's looking great already 😎👍
Hey, glad you enjoyed it! I grew up watching staples of the golden age of youtube (Smosh, AVGN) so their influence definitely has bled through to some extend. But yeosss, I hope to make more things more frequently!!
this is such a great concept for a video, i am legit surprised by how good the video is for a channel this small, looking forward for more content from you
I became a fan of Valve through discovering Gmod vids around 2009. I was 15 at the time and couldn't afford laptop or desktop to play any valve game yet The Orange box for the 360 was my go to. Became a fan of half life, portal and tf2 from it and my god did I play a shit ton of tf2 on it. One day I played a random match and voice functions were available. This host modded his game and would turn on 0 gravity on and such. the voice function surprisingly worked, being able to say yes, no, go go go! and such was a huge kick at the time. the modder let people use their mod outside of the match he was hosting and me and friends played tf2 with it Oh and Hydro was actually played often.
I too first had my first encounter with Valve being through Gmod, watching my cousin play it on his laptop! It's always nice to hear stories with happy endings when it comes to hackers. That one host sounds like a bro.
I remember playing this on 360 back in the day, so much fun and you can play the orange box on Xbox One/Series X I just wished the game still had an active community.
It fluctates depending on the season. Left 4 dead 2 also has a decently sized community left on Xbox, and that's back compat too. Fucking sucks that cs:go was digital only because they've all been digitally delisted and can only be played on disc now.
This was the first version of TF2 I ever played back in 2015, before getting my hands on the PC version a year later. I definitely have a soft spot for it. There's just certain charm to it and I occasionally come back to it.
Objectively there's not much to it, but I can see where the charm lies. Playing it really was kinda like going into offline lobbies as a kid without understanding how to play online.
I don't play TF2, but this was consistently recommended to me so I checked it out. You did a good job making an entertaining video. Congrats on having a bit of a blowup! Always exciting when that happens. Hope you continue making entertaining content.
Oh wow, nice to hear the overlord that is the youtube algorithm giving me a hand. Thank you! I hope to make my next videos soon enough to engage people.
Haven’t watched this video yet but if it weren’t for the 360 version of this game I wouldn’t of played it on pc. I remember when I bought the orange box on console, I didn’t even have internet so I would literally hop on tf2 and bs so confused on what the game was supposed to be because I’d launch and and just be in a empty game playing as medic wondering how to shoot the medigun lmao. Game felt creepy too just standing in dustbowl running around. Good times
Man I loved the 360 version of TF2, a time capsule of a time long gone. When Xbox set up that site for the 20 year anniversary, I thought my most played tittle would be Halo 3 or Red dead redemption, but nope, it was The orange box. The hours I spent playing it let me to love more than just gaming but the creation aspect behind it. When I knew about custom maps and such, I couldn't wait for an update with new maps, but with how Microsoft handled game updates back then, sadly it never came to be. So this leads me to get the PC version of ToB, which led me to steam and the modding tools. Playing custom maps was just fantastic, the core gameplay of TF2 was too much fun, how could they ruin it?.... Well, needless to say that nowadays TF2 looks nothing like it did on launch, not even the vanilla stuff. Personally I think TF2 got too hectic for me, and not in a good way, I loved the idea of cosmetics but geez they focused WAAAY too much on it.
More hours in TF2 over Halo 3? Wow that's quite the anomaly in the 360-sphere. While personally the cosmetics don't bug me THAT much, it can see how it can ruin the game for some. At times it's just too much visual noise for the game's sake, that visual simplicity is a defining feature.
@@ph_grog I know right? I swear I spent hours on end playing customs on Halo 3 that on TF2, but here we are. My problem with the cosmetics doesn't rely much on the hats or outfits but the particle effects ones. Readability gets thrown out the window and there's no easy way to turn those off, specially on official servers. At least there's now an outsourced team working on the game, hopefully they decide to add QoL options to the game like turning off certain cosmetics, maybe even a little optimization here and there. We'll have to wait and see.
Thank you! At like the 75% mark of completion, it dawned on my that laptops exist, so I just had to incorporate that as a nod to any holes in the logic of the video's premise.
@@ph_grog Yeah i know ! That great times Of 2000s Late and Early 2010s Great times Valve Cared about it ! ( When Half Life Series Drop it after 10 Years Later. 1997-2007 The Orange Box Released. ) And Then 2017 - 2018 Valve drop it make somethings. Only updating game: Saxxys 15 March 2018 Last Saxxys happens to Game.
Incase you're curious; Using a programme like Horizon, you can edit the config files of your game. Doing this allows you to actually bind buttons on your controller to commands the game can run. When I first discovered this, I would bind Right on the D-Pad to "sv_cheats 1;noclip;god". Looking back now 11 years later, you could definitely bind something like Left on the D-Pad to "tf_bot_add 23;tf_bot_difficulty 3;tf_bot_fire_weapon_allowed 1;tf_bot_keep_class_after_death 0", which would add 23 Expert Level bots.
@@ph_grog Not even! You can download and edit your profile data entirely without mods! The key to enjoying TF2 during the apocalypse is having an Xbox 360 and a PC lmao
You would be surprised that they only added Pyros airblast months after tf2 was released so its a note for the console version on how old the games are
The orange box introduced me to half life and valve games in general and I was a pro in tf2 mainly for pyro and sniper and was confused when I would look up videos of tf2 I would be confused about scrap, hats and the other weapons
It really was quite a package deal back in the day, but it really is a thing of the past, not only in the technical specs (resolution, framerate), but TF2 can at time feel like a different game with all of the skins and hats.
I remeber when I was a little kid (I am mexican and did not understood english back then), I had the xbox 360 and I did not what a LAN cable was, what xbox live meant, did not search up many of the basic stuff because I did not know what to look for because I was such an incell. All the games I played through the course of about 8 - 10 years old, I played them solo (Even COD and stuff), I remeber getting the Orange Box bundle because i thought "3 games... good" and when I went to play TF2 i just got into game all by myself... for years I thought TF2 was just you as a player running around a map shooting guns at randomness, jumping around and changing weapon classes. Took me some time schooling to learn about what wifi conection and the english language and looking back at those times I really do miss being so innocent and naive and so trouble free.
That gave me quite a laugh! Don't be so hard on yourself man, it happens to the best of us. Even myself, I used to play on my friend's Xbox 360 without any internet (not that it mattered that much with split screen!), and I didn't understand how to connect my DS to the internet until I was like, 11? It wasn't until I was around 14 where I started to properly game on steam with internet. With that said, I agree, there was a charm in the simplicity of gaming without understanding everything behind it.
Played this when i was younger on xbox. There used to be a few servers running but other than that there was not much to do, however occasionally there are the few hacked servers that have custom maps .
I remember being an engineer main playing the orange box on the 360 so much and being so jealous of the wrangler and the minisentry on PC. Part of the reason I got my first gaming pc was to play tf2.
I feel ya! When I first noticed the different weapons, I didn't think much of it. After I got some of them for my own though, it's really hard to go back. Not only for the sake of variety, but it really gives you the ability to form versatile kits for different scenarios.
i miss the tf2 xbox community. i remember being a kid doing all the glitches and having fun with the modders. i remember teenagegnome and ikewitherspoon being the top dogs hahaaa
Ah yes, the orange box on the Xbox 360. I remember this. I loved it, it was my lifeline when I didn't have a PC. I will always hold this game close to my heart.
Very nice video overall, but I disagree with your conclusion that there would be merit in getting the Xbox 360 version of TF2 if it's your only option to play the game because "any TF2 is good TF2". Personally I was a console gamer for a long time, and this version of TF2 (without Xbox Live Gold) was my introduction to the game, and to put it lightly it gave me no idea of what the proper TF2 experience was, and I never gave TF2 any thought until 2018 when I got a pc, but by then I think it was safe to say I missed the glory days of the game. That is probably just because I didn't have online, but I would argue that I was able to enjoy many other shooters because of bots, so the lack of them in Xbox360 TF2 practically made it useless to offline gamers.
Thanks! I don't disagree that the console versions of the game is the inferior version to play, but the core gameplay of TF2 is solid that even without the updates, I bet it's still fun (this is assuming you have an Xbox Live Gold subscription. That statement was meant under that context). The glory days may have passed, but it's still possible to have tons of fun playing the PC version. I first started playing it around 10 years ago, and barring a few exceptions, I've had more fun in the last year than I did all the years before.
This was my only way to play tf2 for a long time, I played back in 2015-2016 and you could still find matches online, sometimes the lobby would be hacked to add in assets that are there in the files but not accessible in a non hacked lobby like different voice commands and stuff
While hackers can be quite disruptive to standard gameplay, when their fiddling leads to a bunch of unusual nonsense in game... that's always something fun to experience.
@@ph_grog yeah hackers on console tf2 generally didn't use their hacks to ruin people's day, but to host lobbies and let people use the "help" voice lines and whatnot lol
You don't need an internet connection to play PC TF2. You can play offline and on LAN servers. The PC version allows you to play against bots, not a thing on console. The requirements to play TF2 on PC are a TV, the PC and a controller. Just like on console.
@@yeetneet5334 Not if you use a Steam emulator, actually. But then you're stuck with the 1.0 version of the game and that's not really what you want, frankly. Also, kinda weird to want to play TF2 during an apocalypse without having downloaded and played it before in your life so I'd say that's an unrealistic requirement anyway
Oh yeah for sure, you can play TF2 on PC with a controller just like on the consoles, but as a more complete package. However that would require you to have all of that on a hard drive, ready to go. Say you were doing a game purge of your steam library the night before the apocalypse, welp, TF2 on 360 will be right there, ready to go with no hassle!
@@Thornskade Without any internet, that would require some foresight to have all of that accessible. In regards to why you'd play the 360 version, in an apocalypse I'd reckon anything to keep you distracted would alleviate some stress... such as an intact Xbox 360 and a copy of TF2!
Nice video, your style reminds me a lot of Scott the Woz, but with less cringe jokes, which is a good thing (I like Scott buts it's true let's be real, he can be cringy lol). Anyways You gotta do more of these style reviews, your onto something.
My favorite part of the 360 release of TF2 was that on 2 fort if you crouch in the corner of the spawn door on one of the teams you could just walk right in and spawn kill the enemy team. Just infinite free spy backstabs.
Oh man, I don't know why but that gave me a flashback to a video I saw way back involving the spy, and while I won't spell out the whole title it starts with "surprise". If you know, you know.
Something to note, the engineer only being able to upgrade his teleporter and dispenser to level 1 was the way things were in the initial state of the game back in 2007 on PC as well. I think that allowing him to upgrade these buildings was added in late 2008, after the Heavy update (which added the Sandvich, Natascha, Killing Gloves of boxing, and maps including Badwater Basin, Steel and the Arena mode maps) but before the Scout update (which added the Force-A-Nature, Sandman, Bonk Atomic punch and the Maps Egypt and, urgh, Junction). Likewise, the Pyro airblast didn't exist on launch either and was only added during his own major update, which was in mid 2008 and also saw him gain the Backburner, Flare gun and Axetinguisher, as well as added the maps Turbine and Fastlane. The game would have been about a year old at that point, so its fitting that this stuff was never added to the console versions which did not get any of the vast number of gameplay and content changes that were released after launch. Another difference you can see in the video is the change of stored ammo for the Rocket Launcher, Grenade Launcher and Stickybomb Launcher, at launch the Soldier and Demoman had almost twice as much ammo for these weapons than they do now, it was probably nerfed into its current state so that these classes, which are very powerful in the right hands, had to be more mindful of their ammo and couldn't spam quite so willy-nilly, and of course they still have their massive reserve on console. Its a bit sad that they didn't put in bots for console players at launch as you said, and also highly ironic when on PC today bots are all too commonplace (and they have managed to create effective official bots if you want to play maps like Nucleus and Dustbowl offline).
The one that started it all. The poor thing is so grandfathered, that its successor (team fortress classic) sucked up most of the credit for being the true classic.
What’s wild is I had the PS3 version of Orange Box I still had fun with it as a kid. I hope Half Life or TF2 come to console with Cross play or something.
It is kinda surprising that they didn't release a new and updated version for the current gen consoles. Discounting a few examples (Portal on switch), Valve has really been keeping it tight on PC only.
Ok real talk I put about a thousands hours into xbox tf2. I was probably one of the top players, and I was the only person I ever saw that did rocket jumps or trickstabs.
We have a discord community and have full matches almost daily, organized competitive matches and new players joining daily. I know this is an apocalyptic review but this version of the game is far from dead
I bought Orange Box for Xbox360 way back in 2008, I didn't have a Steam account until like 2011. But I never really played TF2 on it, just Half Life and Portal.
It's funny, everyone who's familiar with valve has had their first encounter be from 2 different categories: Gmod/TF2, or HalfLife/Portal. While most have eventually tried games from the other group, it seems to mostly start out strictly in one of the other.
In the grand scheme of things, yes quite indeed. However I think there ought to be one or two Xbox 360s (and ONLY Xbox 360s) in someone's 2nd basement when the bomb goes boom.
@@zenolord2242 I figured so. I too like his videos, it's real random but the spurts of entertainment you get from it is good! I'm happy you like it, thanks!
I remember playing the game on xbox one from around 2017 to mid 2019. There was a relatively active community on there for quite some time, as I remember seeing at least 10-20 servers open to join nearly every time I got on, that was before a widespread bug made it where you couldn’t find servers for a while. I tried getting back into the community through the large discord that is out there but the psychotic zealots there weren’t fun to have yelling in your face.
That sucks. While that's not the case for ALL communities for old games, lots of them are full of veterans who expect you to know all the ins and outs of the game, which can be polarizing to newbies.
i didnt watch this video yet but id like to say that the xbox game is actually pretty awesome, it has a few bugs, hasnt been updated in a while, and theres not as many maps as far as im aware, but its still a great game and it runs pretty smoothly on console
Absolutely, with my brief time with it, it ran pretty smoothly! We shouldn't have to praise a port releasing with steady performance, but that isn't the standard these days, is it?
The first edition of tf2 I ever played and in a lot of ways I prefer this over the pc version. Sometimes it feels like I'm constantly on a private server with all of the different weapons and cosmetics.
I personally like that feeling, but it is a double edged sword. If you really vibe with a server, it can be really hard to find another one like it. If you don't vibe with a server, you can poof outta there and chance it at something better.
did this guy really get a backpack and glasses to dress up, so he could stage taking them off casually for the video? That is hilarious. Was it a 1-take shot, or were you putting on and taking off the coat over and over
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The change in weapon model visuals is due to Valve changing the v_models (what you see in first person) and w_models (what you see other players hold) into c_models (arms are their own model, and the weapons are now a single model) Making it a lot more economical when it comes to how much drive space the game takes up, due to the sheer amount of weapons you have in modern TF2, otherwise they would need to create a two models, one that's a lot more detailed that you see in first person, and one less detailed that you see others hold. this also meant two versions of the textures, detailed & less detailed.
Most games don't do that anymore they stick to one model
@@kserrata TF2 is 30+ gb i'm sure they could reduce a lot by modernizing
v_models and w_models are still present in the game. disk space is not the issue here.
5:55 6:00 i start crying beacuse great memorys when updates change it 2000s late and early 2010s. :-') Valve Please Return Back.
Hey, that's a nice extra tid-bit!
I had 500 hours on this before migrating to the pc version earlier this year. The community is still strong and it's a lot more fun then it looks, side effect of course being I preform better in TF2 Pc with a controller then I do WASD lmao
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Highly recommend you get a gyro-capable controller and turn on Flick Stick. Competes *heavily* with keyboard and mouse play with a skilled player.
Might I recommend tf2c
Thank you Apocalyptic Scott the Woz. Very cool video.
Also fun fact, from time to time EA tried several times to get the servers down, but each time there was enough backlash from the community that they had to bring them back up lol
need more info. can give "source"Hahahaha
i need more information on what the hell you mean with the fun fact.
Wait,wtf does EA have to do with TF2 from XBOX 360
@@marcowulliampopirers2216 another person is gonna question it and then like 5 months later with 50 responses of "when did EA do this to TF2 Xbox 360?" we'll get the anwser
For people out of the loop, somehow EA was in charge of managing servers on ps3 tf2. Xbox 360 got the better deal with player hosted servers. Meaning technically if Xbox live supported the ability to play this game (thanks Xbox one backward compat) you can continue hosting your own servers forever and not have to worry about a shutdown like ps3 tf2 or halo 3 Xbox 360 etc.
Even more fun fact. The leaderboards for Xbox 360 tf2 are hosted by a server and to this day reset every few months to clean the leaderboard. The leaderboard server (managed by someone unknown) has gone down for a few days and during that time when trying to load leaderboards it was blank.
I hate to bring negative criticism but this means a lot. Sort of a disservice to the dying but somehow still there community that plays this game online during day hours. I know it was an apocalyptic review but if you span the apocalypse being tf2 bot crisis and you came to xbox for safety it would have been way more fleshed out.
(there is no internet in the apocalypse because internet service workers have died)
the orange box servers have been abandoned. I try to find games but its completely empty. Apparently the servers went down which caused people to leave and when it was fixed the damage was already done and nobody came back.
@@xChillDudex Really? Ever time I open the game to look there was nothing. Usually there was lots of servers but now all it is is the sound of the wind in the background, empty. So I stopped trying.
@@keybladegames_real try the discord for more help discord (.io) /TF2-XBOX-COMMUNITY
There's definitely still people playing. you can see from the public leaderboards that reset periodically every month to 3 that there's over 1500 people who have completed a match and the server ended.
This isn't an enormous number but when all you need to play is 15 other people it's easier than you think during day hours when the game is active. Game is active from 8am pst to 10pm pst. Some nights it goes longer.
I can tell you from personal experience during the last 10 months of playing again, there are a lot of people. Many names you will see again and again but many new faces too. Real fun is still there.
@@xChillDudex boring
Awesome video! I’d love to see more of these ”Apocalyptic Reviews in the future!
Thank you! I'll be slow at churning em' out, but I will be making more.
I hope you make more of this series, the concept and execution made for a really fun video :)
Thank you! While it is kind of a contrived concept, it can make for a really fun challenge to review games, especially if multiplayer is such a big component. Making more of these is definitely something I'd like to do.
Great video! this channel will pop off with more videos like this
Haha thanks! If only... but we'll see! I have a few more videos like this in mind that I'd like to make.
Apocalyptic Gamer > StW
@@ph_grog So go for it. That one comes out really good. Just pick up right topics.
Loved the vid! It has the same energy as a nostalgic watch of your (now popular) favorite channel. Keep making content man, it's looking great already 😎👍
Hey, glad you enjoyed it! I grew up watching staples of the golden age of youtube (Smosh, AVGN) so their influence definitely has bled through to some extend. But yeosss, I hope to make more things more frequently!!
PC: too many bots
Xbox: no bots at all, not even if you want them
It's so lonely :/
This guy is very underrated lets hope the best for him on youtube
Wahey thanks! It would be nice to sustainably be able to do more of these.
I really like your Scott the Woz style of editing and filming, with an equal balance of humor and analysis. Keep up the Great work!
this is such a great concept for a video, i am legit surprised by how good the video is for a channel this small, looking forward for more content from you
Thank you! It really was a "lightbulb" moment for me. I hope to make engaging things soon enough.
me: i want to watch scott the woz
mom: we already have scott the woz at home
scott the woz at home:
xd true
at least he tries
Well... can be worse.
lmaooo that's not what I'm going for... but okay I'll take it
@@johnnycruelty5195 I do!
I became a fan of Valve through discovering Gmod vids around 2009. I was 15 at the time and couldn't afford laptop or desktop to play any valve game yet
The Orange box for the 360 was my go to. Became a fan of half life, portal and tf2 from it and my god did I play a shit ton of tf2 on it.
One day I played a random match and voice functions were available. This host modded his game and would turn on 0 gravity on and such. the voice function surprisingly worked, being able to say yes, no, go go go! and such was a huge kick at the time. the modder let people use their mod outside of the match he was hosting and me and friends played tf2 with it
Oh and Hydro was actually played often.
I too first had my first encounter with Valve being through Gmod, watching my cousin play it on his laptop!
It's always nice to hear stories with happy endings when it comes to hackers. That one host sounds like a bro.
first vid if yours i've seen and its amazing
here before 1k subs
Haha this is probably the best video of mine to be introduced to, but hopefully not for long!
I remember playing this on 360 back in the day, so much fun and you can play the orange box on Xbox One/Series X I just wished the game still had an active community.
Apparently it still does from time to time!
It fluctates depending on the season.
Left 4 dead 2 also has a decently sized community left on Xbox, and that's back compat too.
Fucking sucks that cs:go was digital only because they've all been digitally delisted and can only be played on disc now.
I used to play TF2 on Xbox 360 A LOT. Many memories and good times!
It kinda felt like opening a time capsule when I played this game. I really wonder what it would have been like to have played it way back.
I played the hell out of this on The Orange Box as a kid, I loved it so much, and I still do
Relative to when it came out, it was a banging deal!
This was the first version of TF2 I ever played back in 2015, before getting my hands on the PC version a year later. I definitely have a soft spot for it. There's just certain charm to it and I occasionally come back to it.
Objectively there's not much to it, but I can see where the charm lies. Playing it really was kinda like going into offline lobbies as a kid without understanding how to play online.
I don't play TF2, but this was consistently recommended to me so I checked it out. You did a good job making an entertaining video. Congrats on having a bit of a blowup! Always exciting when that happens. Hope you continue making entertaining content.
Oh wow, nice to hear the overlord that is the youtube algorithm giving me a hand. Thank you! I hope to make my next videos soon enough to engage people.
Haven’t watched this video yet but if it weren’t for the 360 version of this game I wouldn’t of played it on pc. I remember when I bought the orange box on console, I didn’t even have internet so I would literally hop on tf2 and bs so confused on what the game was supposed to be because I’d launch and and just be in a empty game playing as medic wondering how to shoot the medigun lmao. Game felt creepy too just standing in dustbowl running around. Good times
3:50 this was literally my experience playing except I didn’t know you were supposed to play with people.
Oh yes... the vibes of walking around in empty multiplayer maps. I'm all too familiar with that feeling.
The explosion from og macgyver, chills dow the spine
Haha no way! I thought it was just some royalty free asset.
ok, THIS GUY is funny. he's getting my sub.
Hehe, Mann made out of Hamm. Why thank you!
There is actually glitch points in orange box tf2, mostly unpatched no clipping.
Best memory was putting sentry in the sky and just winning the match.
There is no god they say? False. You ARE the god, god of sentry death!
Scott the woz’s cousin talking about Xbox tf2 is exactly what I needed
Hey you! What you needed is what I'm glad I could give
Man I loved the 360 version of TF2, a time capsule of a time long gone. When Xbox set up that site for the 20 year anniversary, I thought my most played tittle would be Halo 3 or Red dead redemption, but nope, it was The orange box. The hours I spent playing it let me to love more than just gaming but the creation aspect behind it. When I knew about custom maps and such, I couldn't wait for an update with new maps, but with how Microsoft handled game updates back then, sadly it never came to be.
So this leads me to get the PC version of ToB, which led me to steam and the modding tools. Playing custom maps was just fantastic, the core gameplay of TF2 was too much fun, how could they ruin it?.... Well, needless to say that nowadays TF2 looks nothing like it did on launch, not even the vanilla stuff. Personally I think TF2 got too hectic for me, and not in a good way, I loved the idea of cosmetics but geez they focused WAAAY too much on it.
More hours in TF2 over Halo 3? Wow that's quite the anomaly in the 360-sphere.
While personally the cosmetics don't bug me THAT much, it can see how it can ruin the game for some. At times it's just too much visual noise for the game's sake, that visual simplicity is a defining feature.
@@ph_grog I know right? I swear I spent hours on end playing customs on Halo 3 that on TF2, but here we are.
My problem with the cosmetics doesn't rely much on the hats or outfits but the particle effects ones. Readability gets thrown out the window and there's no easy way to turn those off, specially on official servers.
At least there's now an outsourced team working on the game, hopefully they decide to add QoL options to the game like turning off certain cosmetics, maybe even a little optimization here and there. We'll have to wait and see.
Amazing vid, Really loved the ending lmaoo
Thank you! At like the 75% mark of completion, it dawned on my that laptops exist, so I just had to incorporate that as a nod to any holes in the logic of the video's premise.
5:55 6:00 i start crying beacuse great memorys when updates change it 2000s late and early 2010s. :-') Valve Please Return Back.
No way man, some of these updates really improved the game!
@@ph_grog Yeah i know ! That great times Of 2000s Late and Early 2010s Great times Valve Cared about it ! ( When Half Life Series Drop it after 10 Years Later. 1997-2007 The Orange Box Released. ) And Then 2017 - 2018 Valve drop it make somethings. Only updating game: Saxxys 15 March 2018 Last Saxxys happens to Game.
@@ph_grog And these present : ua-cam.com/video/IRcHKpZPVHA/v-deo.html
@@C.A._Old faxx
@@ph_grog Yeah.... I Wan't people Start Revolt And Riot And Protest Again.
This is such a great video lol, I’m surprised you only have about 300 subs
Why thank you thank you! To my surprise, from when I last checked in, my sub count blew up to what it is now, 1k, which is pretty whack.
@@ph_grog Thats amazing!! Congragulations!
Bothosters when they realize that there is a TF2 version without bots: Dear God
The ultimate save haven from bots. The only negative is that there are also no players haha!
Incase you're curious;
Using a programme like Horizon, you can edit the config files of your game. Doing this allows you to actually bind buttons on your controller to commands the game can run. When I first discovered this, I would bind Right on the D-Pad to "sv_cheats 1;noclip;god".
Looking back now 11 years later, you could definitely bind something like Left on the D-Pad to "tf_bot_add 23;tf_bot_difficulty 3;tf_bot_fire_weapon_allowed 1;tf_bot_keep_class_after_death 0", which would add 23 Expert Level bots.
Well hot darn! I guess the key to a enjoying TF2 during the apocalypse would be to make sure your 360 is modded.
@@ph_grog Not even! You can download and edit your profile data entirely without mods!
The key to enjoying TF2 during the apocalypse is having an Xbox 360 and a PC lmao
I played TF2 on Xbox 360 & i fell in love. So many good memories.
No matter what platform it was played on, TF2 really left behind an incredible legacy for many.
I just bought the orange box for the 360 great video
Thanks, welcome to the club!
You would be surprised that they only added Pyros airblast months after tf2 was released so its a note for the console version on how old the games are
That's a fat middle finger to the console ports lol.
I remember playing this every day after school on my Xbox 1 in 2018 because I didn’t have a PC but loved tf2
Wow, in 2018? That's surprisingly late to the game, kudos to you for sticking to it at that point.
The orange box introduced me to half life and valve games in general and I was a pro in tf2 mainly for pyro and sniper and was confused when I would look up videos of tf2 I would be confused about scrap, hats and the other weapons
It really was quite a package deal back in the day, but it really is a thing of the past, not only in the technical specs (resolution, framerate), but TF2 can at time feel like a different game with all of the skins and hats.
I remeber when I was a little kid (I am mexican and did not understood english back then), I had the xbox 360 and I did not what a LAN cable was, what xbox live meant, did not search up many of the basic stuff because I did not know what to look for because I was such an incell. All the games I played through the course of about 8 - 10 years old, I played them solo (Even COD and stuff), I remeber getting the Orange Box bundle because i thought "3 games... good" and when I went to play TF2 i just got into game all by myself... for years I thought TF2 was just you as a player running around a map shooting guns at randomness, jumping around and changing weapon classes. Took me some time schooling to learn about what wifi conection and the english language and looking back at those times I really do miss being so innocent and naive and so trouble free.
That gave me quite a laugh! Don't be so hard on yourself man, it happens to the best of us. Even myself, I used to play on my friend's Xbox 360 without any internet (not that it mattered that much with split screen!), and I didn't understand how to connect my DS to the internet until I was like, 11? It wasn't until I was around 14 where I started to properly game on steam with internet. With that said, I agree, there was a charm in the simplicity of gaming without understanding everything behind it.
@@ph_grog yeah same, I was around 13 or 14 when I finally understood Xbox live and how to get it going on my Xbox one
I bless this channel with the gift of blowing up out of nowhere.
Holy smokes! It worked.
@@ph_grog I am the algorithm
@@drdeletus4905 ...owhmagawsh :0
Played this when i was younger on xbox. There used to be a few servers running but other than that there was not much to do, however occasionally there are the few hacked servers that have custom maps .
It's always that extra bit special when you're playing on a hacked server in games where customization isn't really common (ie: MW2, TF2).
I miss when the orange box tf2 was active, but it died a year ago
It's is still active but there is a server glitch that makes matches not appear on console, unless your friends with the server host
It's a shame, really. Seems like there are tons of people who would still play it.
I remember being an engineer main playing the orange box on the 360 so much and being so jealous of the wrangler and the minisentry on PC. Part of the reason I got my first gaming pc was to play tf2.
I feel ya! When I first noticed the different weapons, I didn't think much of it. After I got some of them for my own though, it's really hard to go back. Not only for the sake of variety, but it really gives you the ability to form versatile kits for different scenarios.
Apocalyptic Review is a great series idea and Source games are the perfect fit for it given how many of them are already in an apocalyptic state haha
Yea, it seemed like such a neat (and perhaps slightly contrived) idea, that I just had to put it together!
i miss the tf2 xbox community. i remember being a kid doing all the glitches and having fun with the modders. i remember teenagegnome and ikewitherspoon being the top dogs hahaaa
I have seen some videos of people glitching the game, and it gave me g-mod vibes. Definitely looks like it was a good time!
The classic shaders and the menu bring a tear to my eye.
Having played only the PC version prior, looks so foreign, yet it also suits the console version very well.
Please do more Apocalyptic reviews!
Will do! It'll be a lil while until the next one though, I am very slow at making these.
Ah yes, the orange box on the Xbox 360. I remember this. I loved it, it was my lifeline when I didn't have a PC. I will always hold this game close to my heart.
Sometimes, just the simplest things work.
hey scott nice video
Hey y'all, thanks!
As far as the XBox version having a pay wall to get online. It's important to remember that TF2 didn't become free to play until 2011
Oh, true! I don't know how much this impacts my overall thoughts, but it is an interesting thing to note in the grand scheme of things for gaming.
Dude, this channel is a treshure than hasn't been found jet!
Aaarrghhh! Thanks man, I'm glad you like it.
omg Tom Holland reviewing Team Fortress 2, i like it
"H-hey guys it's me, Spider-Man. You should play Team Fortress 2, it's pretty spectacular!"
Me setting up an intranet after the nukes drop so me and the boys can ly tf2
It's always good to have that thang backed up so that you can game with the boys, no matter what.
I played this alot in 2010 i should dust off my 360 and go back
Yeah, when you feel the time is right, you should! It's fun to visit your old things once in a while.
I swear this stuff is underrated!!!
Seems like this video has had a little explosion of viewership, which is pretty neat!
@@ph_grog Deserved
less unhinged Scott The Woz
BWAHHHHH???
Nice video dude.
Thanks!
Very nice video overall, but I disagree with your conclusion that there would be merit in getting the Xbox 360 version of TF2 if it's your only option to play the game because "any TF2 is good TF2". Personally I was a console gamer for a long time, and this version of TF2 (without Xbox Live Gold) was my introduction to the game, and to put it lightly it gave me no idea of what the proper TF2 experience was, and I never gave TF2 any thought until 2018 when I got a pc, but by then I think it was safe to say I missed the glory days of the game. That is probably just because I didn't have online, but I would argue that I was able to enjoy many other shooters because of bots, so the lack of them in Xbox360 TF2 practically made it useless to offline gamers.
Thanks! I don't disagree that the console versions of the game is the inferior version to play, but the core gameplay of TF2 is solid that even without the updates, I bet it's still fun (this is assuming you have an Xbox Live Gold subscription. That statement was meant under that context). The glory days may have passed, but it's still possible to have tons of fun playing the PC version. I first started playing it around 10 years ago, and barring a few exceptions, I've had more fun in the last year than I did all the years before.
nice video man. id love to see more!
Thank you! Not quite APOCALYPTIC, but I have just uploaded my next project, and it's pretty whack, looking at all of these comments.
You should do more of these old games reviews
I do intend on continuing these, it's just that they take forever to make!
Here before the channel blew up.
Yeyeyea!!
This was my only way to play tf2 for a long time, I played back in 2015-2016 and you could still find matches online, sometimes the lobby would be hacked to add in assets that are there in the files but not accessible in a non hacked lobby like different voice commands and stuff
While hackers can be quite disruptive to standard gameplay, when their fiddling leads to a bunch of unusual nonsense in game... that's always something fun to experience.
@@ph_grog yeah hackers on console tf2 generally didn't use their hacks to ruin people's day, but to host lobbies and let people use the "help" voice lines and whatnot lol
Definetively deserve way more subs
Thanks for the support! I have already reached 1k subs, which isn't a lot in the grand scheme of things, but to me it's pretty whack.
I bought the orange box about a year ago, I thought it was gonna be like "omg I can cross play and stuff" but no. Not at all.
It sucks that such a thing only began at the tail end of the 8th gen thanks to fortnite. Better late than never!
Get this guy more subs.
Yes pls that would be nice
grat video Scott
Thank
You don't need an internet connection to play PC TF2. You can play offline and on LAN servers. The PC version allows you to play against bots, not a thing on console.
The requirements to play TF2 on PC are a TV, the PC and a controller. Just like on console.
No he's saying playing it for the first time requires an Internet connection for verification purposes
@@yeetneet5334 Not if you use a Steam emulator, actually. But then you're stuck with the 1.0 version of the game and that's not really what you want, frankly. Also, kinda weird to want to play TF2 during an apocalypse without having downloaded and played it before in your life so I'd say that's an unrealistic requirement anyway
Oh yeah for sure, you can play TF2 on PC with a controller just like on the consoles, but as a more complete package. However that would require you to have all of that on a hard drive, ready to go. Say you were doing a game purge of your steam library the night before the apocalypse, welp, TF2 on 360 will be right there, ready to go with no hassle!
@@yeetneet5334 Yee, this guy gets it!
@@Thornskade Without any internet, that would require some foresight to have all of that accessible. In regards to why you'd play the 360 version, in an apocalypse I'd reckon anything to keep you distracted would alleviate some stress... such as an intact Xbox 360 and a copy of TF2!
Nice video, your style reminds me a lot of Scott the Woz, but with less cringe jokes, which is a good thing (I like Scott buts it's true let's be real, he can be cringy lol). Anyways You gotta do more of these style reviews, your onto something.
I do like me some Scott, but I can see how some may not like his humour. Thank, I do intend on keeping this thing going!
This is literally the only way I'm even able to play TF2 its still super fun
Any team fortress 2 is good team fortress 2!
I see a fat load of potential in this guy getting over 100k in no time
This d00d straight up pulling wizardry, coz outta nowhere I'm now at 96k. Thanks!
TOB on xbox 360 with tf2’s lan play reminds me of double dashes lan play
In the weirdest way, I could see that having a similar multiplayer vibe.
God tier video lad
God tier comment
The way I was introduced to TF2, spent countless hours on the 360
Quite a grandiose introduction! I could imagine not having to buy another game for a while with TOB when it first came out.
fantastic vid
fantastic comment
My favorite part of the 360 release of TF2 was that on 2 fort if you crouch in the corner of the spawn door on one of the teams you could just walk right in and spawn kill the enemy team. Just infinite free spy backstabs.
Oh man, I don't know why but that gave me a flashback to a video I saw way back involving the spy, and while I won't spell out the whole title it starts with "surprise". If you know, you know.
Something to note, the engineer only being able to upgrade his teleporter and dispenser to level 1 was the way things were in the initial state of the game back in 2007 on PC as well. I think that allowing him to upgrade these buildings was added in late 2008, after the Heavy update (which added the Sandvich, Natascha, Killing Gloves of boxing, and maps including Badwater Basin, Steel and the Arena mode maps) but before the Scout update (which added the Force-A-Nature, Sandman, Bonk Atomic punch and the Maps Egypt and, urgh, Junction).
Likewise, the Pyro airblast didn't exist on launch either and was only added during his own major update, which was in mid 2008 and also saw him gain the Backburner, Flare gun and Axetinguisher, as well as added the maps Turbine and Fastlane.
The game would have been about a year old at that point, so its fitting that this stuff was never added to the console versions which did not get any of the vast number of gameplay and content changes that were released after launch. Another difference you can see in the video is the change of stored ammo for the Rocket Launcher, Grenade Launcher and Stickybomb Launcher, at launch the Soldier and Demoman had almost twice as much ammo for these weapons than they do now, it was probably nerfed into its current state so that these classes, which are very powerful in the right hands, had to be more mindful of their ammo and couldn't spam quite so willy-nilly, and of course they still have their massive reserve on console.
Its a bit sad that they didn't put in bots for console players at launch as you said, and also highly ironic when on PC today bots are all too commonplace (and they have managed to create effective official bots if you want to play maps like Nucleus and Dustbowl offline).
Honestly i bought it for early versions of games, and the hat you get in TF2 that i can brag about.
It all makes it worth it.
This should be a giant series
With all of this positive reception, it seems like a no brainer! These things take me forever to put together however :/
Everyone forgets the real daddy of hero shooters, quake team fortress
The one that started it all. The poor thing is so grandfathered, that its successor (team fortress classic) sucked up most of the credit for being the true classic.
@@ph_grog ikr
What’s wild is I had the PS3 version of Orange Box I still had fun with it as a kid. I hope Half Life or TF2 come to console with Cross play or something.
It is kinda surprising that they didn't release a new and updated version for the current gen consoles. Discounting a few examples (Portal on switch), Valve has really been keeping it tight on PC only.
I used to play on xbox it’s definitely not “dead” just real small and because its hosted on players xboxs it can stick around for a long timw
Which is really a neat thing! Since there are still people playing this game.
Even tho we didn’t have access to cosmetics and weapons this version of the game was still fire
It was a flame of much simpler times.
Ok real talk I put about a thousands hours into xbox tf2. I was probably one of the top players, and I was the only person I ever saw that did rocket jumps or trickstabs.
Damn that's a lotta hours! If that skill translates well to PC, you'd probably be a god in the battlefield.
I still play this version of tf2.
That's some dedication!
We have a discord community and have full matches almost daily, organized competitive matches and new players joining daily. I know this is an apocalyptic review but this version of the game is far from dead
Nice Video
Nice Comment
I managed to play tf2 console a few years ago fully online with a full lobby it felt exactly how it would feel
I bet it did!
It's fun to host modded lobbies with game modes tho
The wackier, the better!
@@ph_grog For sure. Can't wait until the possibility of non modders to be able to host custom game modes
I bought Orange Box for Xbox360 way back in 2008, I didn't have a Steam account until like 2011.
But I never really played TF2 on it, just Half Life and Portal.
It's funny, everyone who's familiar with valve has had their first encounter be from 2 different categories: Gmod/TF2, or HalfLife/Portal. While most have eventually tried games from the other group, it seems to mostly start out strictly in one of the other.
This feels like a combination between scott and upisnotjump
I'm not familiar with upisnotjump, but peeping at his channel, some of his videos look pretty fun!
Funny, I don’t have to update it to play online, I can play on regular Xbox live with other players, but it’s still the 2007 vanilla version
Definitely one of the perks of this game. Untainted (for some folks) from the years full of updates, just the game as it was originally.
During a apocalypse personally I think we will be sent back to using the Atari 2600
In the grand scheme of things, yes quite indeed. However I think there ought to be one or two Xbox 360s (and ONLY Xbox 360s) in someone's 2nd basement when the bomb goes boom.
Why is this guy like Scott The Woz
"Hey y'all!..."
@@ph_grog Really good video btw, saying you are like Scott The Woz is a compliment because his videos are very well made
Also u kinda look like him lol
@@zenolord2242 I figured so. I too like his videos, it's real random but the spurts of entertainment you get from it is good! I'm happy you like it, thanks!
I remember playing the game on xbox one from around 2017 to mid 2019. There was a relatively active community on there for quite some time, as I remember seeing at least 10-20 servers open to join nearly every time I got on, that was before a widespread bug made it where you couldn’t find servers for a while. I tried getting back into the community through the large discord that is out there but the psychotic zealots there weren’t fun to have yelling in your face.
The "veterans" or hardcore players are always toxic waste to new people
That sucks. While that's not the case for ALL communities for old games, lots of them are full of veterans who expect you to know all the ins and outs of the game, which can be polarizing to newbies.
i didnt watch this video yet but id like to say that the xbox game is actually pretty awesome, it has a few bugs, hasnt been updated in a while, and theres not as many maps as far as im aware, but its still a great game and it runs pretty smoothly on console
Absolutely, with my brief time with it, it ran pretty smoothly! We shouldn't have to praise a port releasing with steady performance, but that isn't the standard these days, is it?
fire video
fire comment
The thing was 300 to 400 gigaflops it's basically not even a challenge at all to run this game on it.
Aw yea, gigaflops.
The first edition of tf2 I ever played and in a lot of ways I prefer this over the pc version. Sometimes it feels like I'm constantly on a private server with all of the different weapons and cosmetics.
I personally like that feeling, but it is a double edged sword. If you really vibe with a server, it can be really hard to find another one like it. If you don't vibe with a server, you can poof outta there and chance it at something better.
15 years too late, but we got it done, boys.
Awww yeeeeaa!
ive logged in more hours than i can count on the console ver, imo its the best version
It does have that vanilla simplicity to it.
did this guy really get a backpack and glasses to dress up, so he could stage taking them off casually for the video? That is hilarious. Was it a 1-take shot, or were you putting on and taking off the coat over and over
Haha I'm glad you appreciate that detail! It took me a couple of takes of removing that coat to get that shot... and then some more for the reshoots.
This is literally the definition of untouched
Without a solid single player component, untouched on my shelf it shall remain.