Threat to Serious Feminist Issues | Christina Hoff Sommers
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2015
- The basic rights of millions of women are being ruthlessly violated. In countries like Iran, Yemen, Egypt, and Cambodia, women are struggling for freedoms most women in the West take for granted.
But American feminists are relatively silent about these injustices-especially feminists on campus. During the 1980s, there were massive demonstrations on American college campuses against racial apartheid in South Africa. There is no remotely comparable movement on today’s campuses against the gender apartheid prevalent in large parts of the world. Why not?
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This is what feminism should be, not someone who whines and complains over video games!!!!!
honestly, feminism should not be. women weren't born to become feminists. God created females and feminists do not behave like the woman God created.
She triggered a dog. That's pretty funny. You can't trigger a cat. Cats don't give a fuck.
The only self-identified feminist i truly respect and admire. Thank-you Christina Hoff Summers!
@@SmokeyTheBear125 triple
Fainting couch feminism? I love that term.
She might be one of the only rational feminsts, which annoys me because she calls herself a feminist rather than humanitarian or egalitarian. The word feminist is sexist and implies women are always the ones who are worse off, rather than working towards both genders (which she does do), and calling yourself that
+Lewis Birkett well technically in foreign countries women are worse off by far, I cannot take a feminist seriously if they choose to fail to acknowledge the true plight of females who truly suffer, the younger generations of American women are selfish, self absorbed, acting like 6 years olds, can't treat them equal if they choose to act and behave without any accountability.
canton7180 yes in foreign countries they are but not in first world countries
+canton7180 i read about this,, they say women in western countries have it very bad looked at as good for nothing but sex ect,,
and when you look at their hiring practices you should know that men will get jobs before women *because* men are legally financially responsible for their families while women are not.(they are not even legally responsible for their own income..)
+Lewis Birkett I have one word for you... "epistemology". Just a shade in your remark which I globaly agree with. It is just sad "feminism" which was equivalent to "Women's right activism" at a time, has now taken such a pejorative connotation (semantics is implied). Well we could argue indeed that "modern-faintingcouch-3rdwave-radical-campus-socialjustice-oryounameit-feminism" has corrupted not only "feminism" (the original meaning and purpose of the movement) but several other concepts like "victim", "oppression" or "rape" to name but a few words which are loosing their meanings under the pressure of this contemporanean activism. I am sure you get the point and will forgive me for the addendum to your reasoning.
***** exactly, that's why I said rational. I only wish she called herself egalatarian and not feminist
Christina Hoff Summers teaches a form of feminism that I truly support.
Thanks God, my government and country is no longer talking about feminism but more about equality for all.
I love this woman
+Gregory Hobson Me too.
+Gregory Hobson That's sexist!
Is there a lawyer in the house?
+Gregory Hobson I love this human being who thinks - properly and in an informed manner - too :)
Gregory Hobson so do I. This women is pretty much spot on.
Spot on Dr Sommers.
"Serious Feminism"? Which one is that? The one that shamed men to enlist for WW I while fighting agains draft for women? The one that fought against the draft for women in all subsequent wars, like the Vietnam War? The one that fights for more women in comfy jobs like lawyers but not in uncomfy jobs like garbage men?
+kaczan3 In case it wasn't clear that feminism wasn't a female centered movement to others, thanks
FutileExistence For some it still isn't Too many people fall for Summers's niceness.
+kaczan3 Well she is one of the few "feminists" who adheres to the dictionary definition in that she will fight and speak for injustice against men and boys as well.
bh5496 So she criticizes suffregetes for getting the vote for free and now fights for a draft or an equivalent burden for women? (hint: she does not).
kaczan3 I honestly don't think women should be eligible for the draft because the average woman is going to have a harder time than the average man getting the rigorous standards of combat.
This videos should have several MILLIONS of likes!... She mention, among others, statistics used in women studies... VERY interesting topic 👍
It seems part of the problem is intersectionality. These young feminists don’t want to criticize Muslim countries because then they would offend the Muslim activists on campuses who they’ve aligned with. So instead of protesting and bringing awareness to the situations in the Middle East and Southeast Asia and parts of Africa and standing in solidarity with the Iranian women who risked jail to take off their hijabs in public, they encouraged feminists in America to wear Hijabs in solidarity with the Muslim activists at home.
They could do a lot of good by protesting at home for the women of the Middle East to get basic human rights as they did for South Africa in the ‘80s, when those women there are finally gathering the strength to protest over there for their rights.
But you can’t reason with people who refuse to even listen to ideas they disagree with. They have shunned feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers and Camilla Paglia and think their ideas are so dangerous they can’t listen to them (and don’t want them to even have a platform to speak).
I really hate what modern feminists have become. They aren’t even effective because they’ve alienated most people from their cause.
I agree with nearly everything she's saying. The one thing I take issue with is the fact that she labels a student's (possible) rape as a "petty grievance". Rape is rape. She says she's not discrediting the problems of Western women by pointing to Afghan women, but then she says that a woman who is upset about (allegedly) having been raped is being petty. Not all people who rape are found guilty. We all know that that doesn't mean a rape didn't take place.
Of course, we shouldn't point at Afghan women and say that our problems are the same. However I'm just confused as to why she discredits a Western woman's rape experience directly after saying that's not what she's doing.
Keep speaking Christina women need u more than ever!!!!
Very smart lady. Wish she taught at my university
The Bubble-wrapped Generation.
+Golden Rulesy Awesome tagline
Where two pieties, feminism and multiculturalism come into conflict, the only way of preserving both is an indecent silence - Theodore Dalrymple 2004
Sounds like she was let our early..... Atena Farghadani (Persian: آتنا فرقدانی, born 29 January 1987) is an Iranian artist and political activist, who was imprisoned for 18 months. After publishing her artworks on Facebook, she was arrested in August 2014 and jailed for three months in Evin Prison in Tehran on charges of spreading propaganda, insulting members of parliament, and insulting the Supreme Leader of Iran. Amnesty International considers her a prisoner of conscience. She was released on 3 May 2016.
May 3, 2016 Farghadani was freed again and the charges against her were dismissed. She has expressed no intent to leave her country.
Christina Hoff Summers is a great feminist and she sounds like a great person.
Love this woman!
They will set women back a hundred years and dupe many into being lonely and bitter in later life!
Oh thank god.
I wish the world would start to talk about equality and rights for all and not just rights for just one set of people. Opportunity for all; God created humanity to Love, respect and complement each other while bringing honour and glory to him. All these organizations which are clamoring for their rights alone but do not care about the rights of others are mad, selfish and savage and this even leads on to stupidity. thank you.
A preoccupation with self perfectly encapsulates the current climate at universities.Neurotic parents who over indulged and over protected their children to the point where now as young adults they are so fragile they cannot cope with the real world.
Based mom was obviously triggered by the nonsense she had to research to write this speech.
I love the way this womans brain works
I'm glad our uni isn't like that.
Something has gone badly wrong and I blame Marxist professor's in gender and social studies courses!
I wonder if Christina's videos will be demonetized....
Big love to CH Sommers here. I'm a feminist and I was always warily enthusiastic about her, she has always seemed like a very reasonable and moderate voice, but almost so moderate to the point where she doesn't even seem like a feminist? Because her whole shtick to me always seemed to me to be going "chill out, sweetie" to the more strident feminists and dunking on the loonies who no-one even agrees with and have no real power in cultural discourse anyway. Like she never seemed to make that many concessions to the feminist movement. But now in this video I can see that's quite wrong.
#menshouldbeabletogoaboutwithouttheirpantson ......Free Willy!
Are we dealing with adults or kindergarten children?
This should not be happening, right minded professor's fearing to challenge these fools in case they lose their reputation's and career's. I dread to think of these nut case's having power and influence over the few of us left with any sanity or common sense!
see, this woman is awesome...she's actually sticking up for REAL oppressed women. not one who just hates anyone with a penis
The example she started with is not oppression of women - it could have happened equally to a man who mocked the regime.
So she is not an equalist, but just wishes to tweak the dials of female supremacy a little?
God bless her. I wish I'd given her a fairer hearing back in the day. We'd all be much better off if more Feminists were like her.
I'm a fan.
The kind of feminism this lady talks about is an honorable cause to join in and be proud of it. The others are sham.
These safe spaces sound a lot like pre- school to me.
good
A dog is being triggered. The world has gone to the dogs!
Trigger warning overload
....she forgot to mention Saudi Arabia.
That kind of feminism can dismiss with cultural relativism the oppression of women in Islamic countries. They think we have no right to judge Islamic countries because it's just a different culture and no culture is better than another, and it is racist to criticize them. Therefore we shouldn't worry about it.
I love this women!!!
Now someone get her a glass of water or something!! :P
Conspicuous silence or in other words COWARDICE!
if this woman was at least the face of feminism I would at least start supporting it but unfortunately she is almost alone in a sea of horrible lieing self centered people who are what feminism has become
Based Mum don't pull no punches, Gooo Based Mum!
the only thing that is gonna be ruthlessly violated is women who dont do as they are told
Because feminists decided to focus on "women's issues" and not fight for all peoples (i.e. also men) they have been, are and will continue to be self-absorbed in women's issues, and with such a mindset they will continue to find "issues" anywhere and everywhere. For example: an elevator could be broken forcing all people to go up the stairs to get to their jobs, but somehow it will become the oppression of women because it's much more painful for women since they wear heals (by choice). Really?
Reminds me of how cops in Japan spend time "enforcing" small things because there are so few crimes. Like: you can't use your phone while bicycling, checking bicycle registrations, etc... People do crazy things to keep their obsolete "jobs" from being eliminated. In Japans case it's not that there shouldn't be cops, but that they shouldn't have as many.
"Gender apartheid" isn't such a bad thing if it prevents men from being falsely accused of sexual assault, ad nauseum.
Until the
20th century, men and women living in villages and engaged in agriculture. 95
percent of the people could not read or write, did not vote. Almost at the same
time, men and women were given the right to go to school, to vote and to
develop their personalities. And they got those rights through the development
of science, and feminism has nothing to do with improving the lives of women
and men. Feminism is opposed to children, mothers and housewives. Feminists are
not interested in social guarantees for working mothers and affordable medicine
for pregnant women and children, pensions for housewives. Feminists want to
allowed to kill children (abortion), want to have the
right to humiliate men, housewives and mothers in the workforce. For normal women feminism has created a
lot of problems. If you believe that all people have equal rights,
regardless of health status, sex, race, education, material wealth and age. You
act for equal rights for all people, you're not a feminist. Feminists are not
interested in the rights of the disabled, the poor, the elderly. 20% women in
US, UK, Germany, Singapore are childless and single in age 45 years, in the
traditional society in age 45 years childless 3% of women (with health
problem).
That loose hair triggered me I want a safe space now!
Conflating understanding one's own oppressive context (i.e. The U.S.) and that of Afghanistan or Yemen is not saying that because women in the U.S. want equity here that then negates the plight of women in other countries. The two are not separate. When we start to understand our own context and the ways in which we experience discrimination at home, then we can better come together in solidarity for other women across the world. Know yourself to better know and help others. Summers conflates a very complex and nuanced issue with an either/or binary. It's not that simple. As a professor, I see how my students are learning about very new concepts for the first time. They feel empowered, passionate and want their voices to be heard. This is how change happens. These students are learning what it means for the first time to live in a patriarchal, white male dominated society. Just like when Summers was in college, new ideas and old were likely clashing. With experience and more knowledge, usually college students start to refine their understandings of the complexity of feminism and how it converges with race and gender identity, not to mention, class, age, ability, geographic region, language, documentation status etc. I'm not sure why Summers hasn't done that kind of work, at least not that I've seen with the interviews and talks she has done. Perhaps Summers should stop dismissing women's experiences here in the US and seek partnership with them on how they can better understand and use their various forms of privilege toward change across the globe. I understand when students take it too far regarding safe spaces but that's their decision to find common ground amongst themselves on what that might look like to them. They are all different. To generalize that ALL students are whining and have no legitimate reason to protest her talks, especially when she is telling rape victims that they might have deserved it if they were drunk, is completely sexist. I would suggest she start to look at internalized sexism and see why she thinks it's ok to dismiss other women's experiences. I would also contend that as a privileged, white woman, she has many blindspots regarding who she thinks American women are exactly. She cannot nor should she speak for ALL women. To bait us against each other is actually more hurtful in the end. Focus on the change she does want to see and provide space for the women doing similar work to also share in that endeavor.
You are the reason feminism in the west is declining... I suggest you to watch the video again and many more from Christina and try to learn something. TY You're welcome
She's invalidating women's experiences in America because they're based on bullshit and are over-exaggerated.America is no longer patriarchal and will never be.The only countries with true patriarchies are countries in Africa and middle east.
Also she never said anything about people deserving to be raped cause they're drunk.She said that people should drink responsibly which shouldn't be considered a problem because if you are blackout drunk and someone is raping you you're not going to be able to defend yourself or call for help.Stop lying and stop try to validate fainting couch feminism.
@@DhinCardoso Such as ?? specifics please
There is no feminism that is not a form of grievance. Not anymore. Admit it.
"fainting couch feminism" :)
Cultural appropriation? What a joke. What a red, red herring.Try Oppression appropriation.Here. Let us just borrow a bit of your oppression so we can yell or faint or mouth tape as the case may be, while we live and sleep and dine and wine (and whine) in a place and time that is one of the most historically safe places the world has ever known....Yet still, we don't feel quite right. Something is amiss. Check your damned privilege, ladies.You tell 'em, Christina.
My views, this grievance feminism is akin to cancer to feminism. Thing about cancer, the cure can cause a great deal of harm to the host while it is trying to get rid of the disease. In other words, our current strong anti-feminist movement is like a form of chemo-therapy for feminism. The trick though is going to be recognizing when the cancer is finally done so that we can stop the chemo. I predict in this case it might be difficult to recognize when that time is, and that is my number one fear in what we are seeing today.
Make no mistake, grievance feminism will fall out of favor in the same way that this big anti-religious rationalist movement has risen up in the popular culture. I am just not so sure feminism as a whole will survive the experience. At the same time though, that might be a good thing. It really is about time we get a gender-neutral human rights effort in place. A gender specific one is just too susceptible to this sort of thing, a gender-neutral one that emphasizes evidence over histaria might be more robust moving forward.
why is she miced while speaking into a mic?
Do you believe that all men in the world agree with what happened to this young Irainian artist? The majority of men would not support that and would stand up against it, and this is why I see it is hypocrassy on the part of the feminist movement to blame and attack all men for these things or for discrimination against women. There are evil men in the world but there are more good men in the world. So when I see organizations such as the UN, FAO, UNESCO, and many governments in the world supporting the unspeakable actions to strengthen women and ignore men I am tempted to believe that this has a wicked secret evil agenda in the world to demasculinate men and this will be fatal for the human race. Just remember my word today and mark it down. If someone does not stop it there will be problems. In fact in many parts of the world like in the caribbean, aeurope and many other countries some women and young ladies are already complaining about the quality of their young men. Individually, under normal conditions women like men to be men.
frolicking puppy's what if your afraid of dogs lol
Why not drop the "Serious Feminist" part and just go with "Humanitarian Issues"? Why does she feel the need to keep herself attached to something so flawed after all this time?
I hate to say it but she's getting worse as a public speaker. Which is a shame, she has a lot of good things to say.
And how does this type of teaching prepare these self created fruit baskets for the real world?
thank god good men gave you your playground
Based mom is cute.
I'm a big fan of Christina hoff Sommers but this is one of her worst speeches. She stammers and seems to lose her train of thought often.
Terrible and distracted speaker ruining what could and should have been a powerful speech.
CHS can be hard to listen to due to her stammering and self-corrections in unexpected or unnecessary places. I hope she smoothens that out as the limelight increases.
Christina Hoff Summers is a role model for all these other sad excuses masquerading as feminists....