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Gotta love how Legend almost sounds happy about the Manticores dying.
Few months ago, He would have dispanded the remaining manticore :D
And I kinda miss that ^^
@@gottkonig3867 Most certainly, aye.
Manticores are awesome for checkerboard armies especially if you need to cheese - send them out to pull parts of your enemies army and abstract their ranged units while you focus their best units - rampage sucks for sure, but usually they will rout and come back - im also not playing on legendary
@@henrymonroe4300 I see your point. The ability to fly is certainly beneficial, however "rampage" and it's scheer size are rather detrimental and don't make it worth picking over say masters.
lets be real though, the manticore is the absolute worst of all the rampaging units. the amount of times the idiot gets hit by a single arrow and suddenly decides to yeet itself into the entire enemy force on its own is ridiculous
I used to hate it so much, until I found out it's really maneuverable.
I remember I had one only because it was a starting unit. My friend had a high elf wizard that he was protecting with lothern seaguard, spearmen and shadow warriors, but he didn't put her in the middle of the spearmen thankfully. I kept my entire army back and sent in only the manticore, was somehow able to dodge most of the arrows and sic it on the wizard. That's when I realised most of its attack animations involve a large amount of moving around, so it was dodging all the arrows WHILE sniping the wizard. Wizard went down in a matter of seconds, then I pulled it out, dodged all the arrows again and made it back to the rest of my army.
@@IAmebAdger yeah thats the one Out of 10000 Times someone gets Lucky with the rampagetrait xD I kept my starting stegadon of my ongoing kroq-gar campaign in my Second army and it always rampages after 5 Seconds in Combat... no big Deal cuz every Lord and hero gets the anti rampageabilty, but never have more Units that can rampage in your Army then Lord and Heroes combined as lizardmen, except saurus of course they normally don't rampage over 50% health
And for other factions, fuck this shit... IT can cost you a Victory If you rely on These units
I recruited them as Norsca thinking "Maybe it'll be good for taking out the artillery when fighting with one of my cheaper stacks" . Nope!
Yeah maybe, but Legend said the magic word at the end. Keep the manticore for "flavor" reasons. And that's just right. I keep units just because I love the models and how they look and behave and stuff like that. Of course, only when I am already on the winning side of a campaign. Early on you have to keep track on winning and conquering so the flavor thing just have to wait. :-) Sigh... you know I just love Giants but they are so bad that even flavor reasons cannot stand up against them. But, alas, I will keep at least one giant in some of my armies, because I just like to watch them go into melee. That is IF they ever reach a front enemy line. I hope in the future CA will give Giants some attention, maybe put some magic armor on them that would give them missile resistance. (maybe a regiments o f renown unit) or a trait from a legendary lord. Something like that or you could hire a giant with heavy armor (should be possible). Or a giant with stalk or with magical boots that give them 90 speed.... ;-)
@@emorsi Try Steel Faith Overhaul mod, they gave giants huge amounts of missile resistance in there, which makes them somewhat useful. Just one of the bad units/factions they've managed to shore up.
im going make a full army of manticores and send him a disaster campaign
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Legend: No Rampage units!!
Lizardmen: **sad dinosaur noises**
Legend doesn't recruit feral ones so that's not an issue. But it's cheeeeese
Some rampage units are decent like cold one knights but that’s about the only one I can think of
@@stormrunner4081 too slow.
@@stormrunner4081 Oh boy does legend hate cold one knights with a passion. I like 'em if I can get all the lord buffs for them, but yeah, they have a pretty low unit count.
@@IAmebAdger Low unit count and they are slower then molasses in winter. I love them thematically but jesus do those raptors need to run some drills.
"Were it not for Scipio, I would be remembered as the greatest general in history." Hannibal, after the battle of zama.
If it were not for Scipio. My epic last stand would not have happened. Commander Thorne Coruscant Guard from Death
@@danielmatthiesen1717 "Who ever has a Scipio in their army shall remain undefeated in North Africa" Roman prophecy.
@@Andy-mj4ru Look up "A Legionary's Life" on steam. A text game about serving under Scipio in several of his campaigns and a lil more at the end.
Hydras are great single entities for tanking, and they look so cool too... Win-Win
The player should get some hydras for morning toasts with CHEEESE.
I quite like Manticores, they may not be the biggest, meanest or most tactically sound monster but they're relatively cheap and only take a single turn to recuit and sometimes you just need a flying monster to hit the enemy artillery, wizard or take down a gate.
Jeff is very proud of you, yes-yes
Battle of Agincourt , restored footage...
Lizardmen can deal with a single carnos rampage now.
"Cold Blooded" nowadays does Stop Rampage and +16 Leadetship. And you got it on about every hero. Retreiving a raging carno is tricky, but doable nowadays. And it massily adds to the usabilty of several units.
I also heard rampage is only trigerred twice: At 80% and 40% HP.
They changed the trigger to be 20% hp several patches ago, and since every hero and general gets cold blooded, it's really a non issue at this point.
@@Wraithguard92 The 20% hp thing is AFAIK only for saurus warriors wich have their own rampage variant.
1:39 closed captioning with the "feral connoisseurs" ftw
then it says connor sauce
Whenever I play as Naggarond my favorite army is always a mixture of Black Guard and Shades with Great Swords maybe some cavalry sprinkled in there and some artillery.
07:10 lol those druchii are doing skaven-like things, trying to kill the commander.
I once had a manticore rampage into the middle of the enemy army and attract a bloated corpse which ran in and basically won the battle for me
video length of 13:37, you're so 1337 legend
Close victory?! lol they got decimated, talk about sore losers=P
Submitting player cries quietly the loss of pet manticores. LOL. I would suspect he had them for a flying goon squad for high elf archer lines. However, I dislike rage so much. Love the tips. I use the exhaust ports for obstruction too and it great to get them to bunch up and separate there.
It's even better being the one on the attack on the other side of the exhaust ports. You just hide all of your army behind one of them, and the enemy artillery will attempt to bomb you but fail due to dashing all of its shots against the obstruction.
Yup, I needed something I could recruit fast that could get to those annoying archers. No love lost on those manticores tho lol
The purpose of a Manticore is to be fast to recruit, cheap, decent in autoresolve and completely disposable. It doesn't matter if they die, they can just be replaced next turn.
Who would have thought that the mechanic where you lose complete control of your unit with no benefit for it is fun.
Tiny amount of benefit of not having it rout in a crucial battle where you need it to hold the line and die, but not worth it imo. I get that fun is subjective, but it's defo not my kind of fun.
I tried checkerboard with Ungor Raiders against a normal sort of DE army. I used Cygors to block out. I'm not going to claim we won that battle but it went better than one might expect.
Yeah.. had a semi-disaster situation as Greenskins and recruited a quick army to repel incoming enemy, was mostly goblin archers and took one feral wyvern to get to siege units, the fucker got hit few times because of my carelesness and of course it rampaged solo into whole enemy army.
Hope we get more gods to play as in Warhammer 3, pretty cool that the Elven Godess Lileath is Fae Enchantress.
imo Feral Manticore is like DE's menace below, you send them off to die/for dark conduit.
Legend seems to get really lucky with the ai sometimes, but that’s a great thing to see
2:56 oh no... Corona-chan is here...
Legend made that look super easy.
Dark Elf doomstacks are ok imo
It's like Agincourt as done by Milan...
Creative Assembly should hire you as a new auto resolve for Warhammer 3
God I hate those rampage chariots that malekith starts with, so useless and suicidal.
i think he recruited manticores for air superiority and because they are cheaper than dragons
And that's why you're a legend
Don't understand why people make army compositions like this and then expect to trounce every enemy.
Does Checkerboard Formation work with a mixed army of Quarrerels and Thunderers? With the thunderers in the first and second row and then, behind them, the quarrerels? Also, is a combination of Bugman's Rangers and Rangers (great weapons) a good substitute to Thunderers? Because I struggle a lot dealing with their low arc of fire, at least Bugman's rangers should be able to fire and hold the line as well, because they are freaking tanky with Liquid Fortification
Works for me, especially if the very front line has Ironbreakers, but I've only played them on Normal.
I'd get medusas instead of manticores
Medusas are good for sure, but then you gotta ask yourself, what does a Medusa do that is more valuable than just another unit of shades or Blackguards? I suppose it provides a bit of fear? Is that worth it? If I had the choice, I'd get Black Dragons or something that can snipe enemy artillery, but those are later game units.
Hydras guys, hydras. The best single entities for tanking in the druchii roster. Medusas shoot great and can hold their own in combat, but the hydra's regen tops anything else
@@TheRewasder97 Hydras are the best. And they get that nasty breath attack if the enemy tries to outmaneuver them, they also have decent speed so it's hard to get away from them. I do want to use them to take out artillery positions too, but unfortunately they lack flying, so I find it next to impossible to dodge enemy missiles while I get in position for the firebreath. Thus they are relegated to my frontline where I can protect them from missiles.
@@IAmebAdger for artillery I use heroes and lords, they get the flying stuff, it's easy to waste their ammo most of the time. Lords in black dragons are a bad idea as they are slower and bigger, heroes in pegasus are the best. I usually use the sorceress, so I can thin them with magic as I dodge. Although, they are squishy, a master in pegasus can take more punishment and if you get them the regen trait, they are amazing at tanking and wasting enemy ammo
@@TheRewasder97 Yeah they usually leave their artillery exposed for lords to swoop in and wreck them.
I agree black dragons are slow at turning and big targets, so it's more difficult to dodge shots with them. I still like using them for their time efficiency since a top-down breath attack can take out a whole unit of artillery and they are better at rear charging due to splash damage, but it would defo be easier to keep them safe if I used one of the smaller mounts.
Am I the only one who’s noticed the Fay enchantress becoming one with her unicorn on the campaign map at the start?
Classic case of making it look easy
I hate manticores as well, but they only take 1 turn to recruit so sometimes I grab them just to have a monster unit
Making it look ez af
Will there be more LL comparison videos? Could you add their faction comparison as well?
13 minute disaster battle?...so not that disastrous.
do you ever sleep legend lol
Starting to doubt it
he lives in australia so there's that
@@xXMatt1337Xx yeah, which means its currently like 2 in the morning
@@xXMatt1337Xx me toooo
how do you move several units in formation like when you are making the checkerboard? is it mod or a just a hotkey im missing?
Hold Alt+click and drag
Native feature.
@@Siluriiformes Thank you Thank you Thank you! :)
What are the controls to shuffle your units along thats used when making the checkerboard - ive tried ctrl and left click as per the options but it doesnt seem to work - am i being dense?
Throw some alts in there.
Alt my dude. Live saving key in this game.
Have you tried holding alt+Lmouse?
@@Insomnia1221yt Thanks all!
Also, while moving a formation you can hit Ctrl to rotate it. To make it work, release Alt while still moving the formation then hit Ctrl to rotate. Just don't release the mouse button until you are done.
Berserkers!... But I don't do legendary I stick to very hard so I can use suboptimal units like that.
why are the greatswords the "doomstack" and not the dual swords, when dual swords have a higher melee defence, the same attack and ranged attack, the bonus vs infantry and only a slightly lower melee weapon damage
arent they just better?
also little extra question
looking at the attackset of the dragon and manticore the manticores seemed SOOOO much better, is it actually better to put you lords on manticores then dragons cos they are faster and better in the melee blob (you dont lose the stats other then some armour cos its still the lord, and the armour should be made up for with the smaller entity, and obviously no rampage)
Shades with greatswords have wayyy higher AP, high armor units is what you want to focus on killing, hence the geeatswords over dual wield
@@TheHahanicevideo yeah but shades have really high AP missiles which is what you want them to be using anyway, you dont want them to kill in melee, you want them to LAST in melee for your other shades to do their work, and dual swords have higher melee defence, they last better
gregsmw Its like 3 more meele defence for way lower damage, its more useful to have them kill stuff instead of having +3 MD
There is a reason greatswords take 2 turns to recruit instead of just the 1 turn for the dual swords and why they are more expensive. Even though dual swords are better vs lightly armoured infantry, greatswords are better melee fighters in general. In a lot of late game battles that armour piercing you get from greatswords makes a big difference. I personally could go for a couple dual swords on the front of the checkerboard anticipating enemy infantry, though, since I don't like doomstacking.
For dragon vs manticore, dragons apart from having better stats, are better air-to-air fighters, better at formation-disrupting charges and they have 3 breath attacks. The breath attack is a big bonus, since it can take out a whole missile unit or artillery unit by itself when aimed from directly above them, and it's really good in sieges where enemy units clump up on the walls and a dragon can breathe on the whole wall section from the correct side angle.
@@TheHahanicevideo its 4 more melee defence at the cost of 4 less weapon strength
imo thats a worth tradeoff
Rampage is not casual tho, it activates when the units healt is below 80% and the second time when is below 40%
yeah thats just not true
rampage activates randomly when the creature takes damage, they can rampage at 99% health
they are more likely to enter rampage the lower health they have, and cant go into rampage if they have rampaged recently, which may be why you think its 80/40 because that is a very comon pair of health values you will see them activate on
@@gregsmw well at least there are DE withces who can make enemies rampage at this amount of health - once below 80% and once below 40%. However, Sword of Khaine makes anyone insta-rampage by its ability no matter what.
I like the content you put out. Helps to watch and learn some things. Recently started a new campaign of vampire coast on very hard but their roster seems really weak and it's been rough. Any thoughts on them as a faction?
To make it a succes, rush towards Necrofex Collosi. Until then, use mostly cheap gunners (not the handguns though, they are shit) and use both vampire and deeps magic to disrupt the enemy coming at you by spawning zombies and crabs.
Vampire coast are very dependent on their lords and heroes. Same as Vampire counts. Although they can get OP asf when you grow your ship properly and have the right tech and skills to boosts your gunpowder units. Settlements don't matter woth vampire coast your ships are the most crucial thing to look after.
Nice
Why no wizard?
I was being picky about the traits on my wizards so everyone doesn't have one. I did think the same thing so since then I started recruiting more with intentions of replacing later with a better trait.
this is an e-leet strategy ;)
tip: check the length of the video
Manticores? Eww.... no. Should’ve got dragon(s) instead, at least they can use noxious breath 3 times... Then this would be doom stack worthy. Currently pillaging the high elves in their turf after they took a port near me and that became their ritual site... 🤣😂
When he says “and there’s the army losses,” what is he looking at? I think I know what he means (enough enemy troops have broken that there is a penalty on that army, to the point that the game computer determined the battle over-right?)...but what is he seeing that tells him that? He says that in nearly every one of these example battles, and I look...but cannot see it. Is it just his experience of having it done it that many times that he can eyeball it? He is not doing a mouse over an enemy unit. The balance of power bar doesn’t do anything specific that I can see. Yet, every time he calls it, sure enough a few seconds later it’s game over, battle won. I am stumped.
Watch the leadership bars over each enemy unit. When army losses happens the leadership bars will all simultaneously go down to nothing. Army losses is nothing more than a massive penalty to leadership that causes them all to break and run. Also after the leadership bar drops to nothing their banner will start to flash and go gray. When all of that happens at the same time you know army losses just kicked in.
The whole army wavers so their banners all flash, huge giveaway.
rovers141 Thank you. That makes sense. I will rewatch the videos to see if I can see that happen. I know when a unit starts to break, or maybe it’s when it does break, the banner flashes, but I’ve never seen it in these videos. I’ll look for that also.
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how does he move the whole formation like @4:04
Holt alt, then left click on a unit, not the unit card, then hold the left mouse button down and drag
@@johnmcmanus2447 THX
how do you grab a formation and move it as a whole? i always have to do each unit individually because i cant find the hotkey for it
Highlight the group then hold down alt key to move as a group
@@galakronde520 thank you
Currently in a Morathi ME campaign and trying to get a Shade stack to work, but I don't know how to get the Shades' range to the 200's or something, any help/pointers? Dark Elves are one of my worst factions to play as.
you can't get more than about 150-160 range with them as i know. It's a bit tricky to use them but stalk is making it doable.
you need to get the "shadow dart" name of power from a lord to get the 200 range shades
@@jamiewatson3769 So it's impossible to get 200 range shades in any of the legendary lord armies?
@@ErikaWeiss633 yeah generic lords only. You can still get decent range through techs and red line tree around 160ish
You have three ways of greatly extending their range on a generic Lord and only two on a Legendary Lord. They're: Tech tree 15% (Reworked Crossbows under Upgrade 1), "Shadowdart" Revered Name of Power (35% bonus range) on generic Lords, and the generic red line for rank 7+ Shades to get +15%. With all three they have 214 range. With just the two 15% ones that both Legendary Lords and Lords can get, it goes from 130(base) -> 149 -> 169. The 35% brings it to 214.
There is Barbstorm, but that's 5% range for a Revered Name of Power(you get 40% more ammo though).
Hello there
General Kenobi! You *are* a bold one.
No stream today? :( Or Just later?
Ah, If i Just stayed awake for Like 10 minutes Yesterday i would know xD
The battle AI looks worse and worse in Warhammer with each passing year.
Sometimes when Legend says the submitter tried the battle numerous times and can't win it's hard to believe, because a lot of the recent videos have been piss easy with hardly any losses. I get that not everyone is as good as Legend but seriously? This one was a cakewalk.
I think the guy that send him the savegame say that not Legend
Send him a battle you are having a hard time with and see if he makes it look easy. If he does you may have a new appreciatetion for how good he is.
Anyone know how to get income like that? I don’t usually have money problems as the dark elves but this guy’s income is on a totally different level lol
Get a 4 settlement province and fill it to the brim with slaves. Get masters and choose their sycophant skill point. Put in that province 5 masters since every master reduces slave reduction by 10% (your level 4 slave pen already gives 50% slave reduction). You can reduce the amount of masters needed to only 4 once you've research the later part of the tech tree. This only applies to mortal empires though. The vortex campaign don't have good 4 settlement provinces.
And here I thought the shade doomstack was strong. My mistake.
in terms of dps shades are insane but they cant defend versus cav and monsters in melee
@@BFB1Mr And sisters of avelorn can? Got it. Shade doomstack is inferior to sisters of avelorn doomstack.
@@AAGREEDYFISH Sisters can actually defend themselves against cavs. Watch the first minutes of this video Legend explain it.
@@Qulize That's what I said. Sisters of avelorn can defend themselves against cav. Shades cannot. Therefore shade doomstacks are inferior to sisters of avelorn doomstack.
Are u gone make a vidio of what repag units
Basically anything that has "feral" in it's name
Wtf are you trying to say??
@@Qulize units that have rampage, i believe