I still didn't get the answer to your question of what to do then, to do a zone 2 run, do you stop? Do you slow to stay in zone 2? He didn't answer it, I really want to know the answer. I've been doing shorter runs to stay in zone 2
As someone with a 20 year background in body building and power lifting, Chris Henshaw is even well-known to someone like me! I could listen to Chris talk for DAYS! SOO much knowledge and he's able to communicate complex ideas clearly and in a way that resonates! #LikeaBoss
If i understood it correctly, dont focus on the speed and if you HR is climbing Slow it down. I hope that is right and Jason can confirm. This interview was great.
Awesome interview Jason! I myself would like to talk to Chris about myself I’m 73 and workouts are sometimes difficult for me. Great to see you Friday at Mayhem in the parking lot
Awesome stuff Jason! The Zone 2 training discussion was very interesting. My aerobic capacity has always been my limiter so I would run after workouts to try to improve it but I was always more concerned about my pace and not my heart rate. Lately I've incorporated walking into my running if my heart rate gets too high or just go for long walks. I will also slow down or reduce the damper on the erg bike to stay in that zone 2. It's been really hard for me to do but after hearing this I know I'm doing the right thing and need to do it more. Henshaw is always a great interview. Thanks!
So interesting! Given Chris’s experience, it would be great to know if it is healthier long endurance training or HIIT crossfit workout (especially for older athletes). THKS
I think his answer would be BOTH - light long training and intense training along with relatively heavy weight training - especially for older athletes.
Agree. I'm about to cross over to 55+ and they don't seem to give this group the credit. Keep the high skill! Keep the weight. I'm never going to the games but still the challenge.
You make that hoodie look good Jason! Thanks for the video, as a newbie to crossfit, and a masters I'm trying to learn as much as possible about how to have fun, stay healthy, avoid injury and most of all IMPROVE as fast as possible 😝 Your videos help me on my journey!
I do recognize the part of retainment al lot. At 1st I got angry when I was out for 2 weeks and felt iIneeded to start al over again. I never felt that in the past. But the past is like 20 Years ago when I was 20 years younger. Once I accepted that part I got more relaxed and enjoyed training a lot more because I could accept a bad training day a lot better.
Great content! I am 32, just started crossfit 2 months ago and I love it. however, even if I am 32, I find interesting this kind of content related to masters athlete because I am in for the long run and soon I will become a master too!
Jason, you mentioned tendonitis in your elbow, I think, like tennis elbow. What'd you do for that? I'm 50 back to exercising after 12 years at my local CF box. I did a farmer's carry this morning with 10lb kB in each hand. Coach said no, you're just going to the store, you need to carry 25lb each in order to get anything from this. He said my grip was weak and this is why I have the tendonitis. Does this ring true?
Tendonitis isn't from a weak grip - it's from overuse. I had to take a break from anything grippy for about 6 weeks (while training for a 1/2 ironman). That did the trick.
Great Interview 👍👍 for someone who just started with fitness - Chris has spoken a lot about "Zone 2" - What is the definition of "zone2"? did not find any table or scheme
Great question. Zone 2 is maintaining roughly 60%-70% of your maximum heart rate for a long duration. It's a sweet spot between easy and moderate training. Here's a good article on the topic: www.livescience.com/zone-2-training
I like the Maffetone method because it's easy to calculate. It's simply 180 minus your age +/-5 beats. Try to stay in that heart rate zone for a minimum of 45 minutes per session.
9:06 I think anyone that has ever done CrossFit could agree with that. Absolutely, you can’t go balls to the wall day in and day out, regardless of your age. I fell in love with CrossFit from the word go, but I have always had an issue with the programming. I’ve always felt that there has to be a better, smarter way to get there without the constant, daily grind. A balance. There has to be a balance. If you do this long enough, one way or another, you’re going to figure that out. The issue here is that people shouldn’t have to figure that out the hard way. We just need smarter programming, and I would think it’s fair to say, that we just don’t have that at most boxes.
Great content but Chris never answered the question of my intent on the c2 bike is stamina (zone 2) what can I do to make sure I'm actually achieving that and not allowing my heart rate to go up by maintaining the same speed? Slow down? What if we don't have a HRM? I've been using nasal breathing and wondering if that's a good measure...
Jason! loving the content and that you were so patient in listening on this! Your adjustment from scripting out your own videos to sitting back and listening was impressive. I don't know if i need to subscribe to Mayhem (or your coaching) or just do more research, but is Hinshaw saying, don't let your heart rate drift up during zone 2? Like we should slow down and maintain the heart rate?
So for a 58 yr old man HIT cardio (which i love) versus slow long steady state cardio (which i hate) , how should i be programming each in my Crossfit training?
Hey Derek - Honestly... I don't recommend programming for yourself. I think that's one of the hardest things to do unless you are a programmer specifically. Does that make sense? It's like asking your accountant how you should do your own taxes. Outsource your programming and follow a good plan - a plan that has a good mix of short, medium, and long sessions/workouts. A mix of heavy, light, bodyweight... etc. I'm happy to help ya find a program (one of mine or someone else's depending on your overall goals). Just shoot me a volley message: talk.volley.app/jasongrubb
My chief concern with 55+ programming is the movements that wear and tear on the joints. Please understand it is not THE workout. Anyone can do one Games workout if they have the skills. The challenge comes from training for those movements in competition. For example, rope climbs, even legless, are not a problem for most 55+ competitors. But when you are training for a comp, you are training for time so you are dead dropping from 15-feet. That can lead to ankle and foot injuries especially since most boxes don’t have crash pads. Same can be said for rebound box jumps and TnG HSPU. I agree that Boz needs to bring in an older athlete or even an orthopedic to help create workouts that don’t beat up our joints.
I would argue that no masters athletes should be dead dropping rope climbs - I get down just as fast without dead dropping. No TnG box jumps... they're not that much faster. HSPU... not sure there. Just have to be smart. I think that there is a balance that you have to find... pushing hard enough to improve and staying smart enough to not get injured.
I think we can all agree there are deficiencies currently and the end goal is to have an amazing sport. Would I like to see changes and improvements specifically related to masters athletes? Of course... but I'm also just thankful CrossFit has given me a platform to compete as a 46-year-old. lol
I hear what you're saying, but there is are 50-54, 55-59, 60-64, and 65+ age groups at the games. With the capacity of athletes increasing every year, I could see it being a difficult balance to provide the correct stimulus.
I still didn't get the answer to your question of what to do then, to do a zone 2 run, do you stop? Do you slow to stay in zone 2? He didn't answer it, I really want to know the answer. I've been doing shorter runs to stay in zone 2
You slow down... to stay in zone 2.
As a masters crossfitter and triathlete i am a huge fan of Chris and his knowledge.
He's a wealth of knowledge!
Chris just might be the most positive and encouraging person out there. Great interview!
Truth!!
I’m only 10mins into this interview and this is great content that nobody else online seems to cover! Thanks Jason and Chris ❤
Awesome, thank you!
As someone with a 20 year background in body building and power lifting, Chris Henshaw is even well-known to someone like me! I could listen to Chris talk for DAYS! SOO much knowledge and he's able to communicate complex ideas clearly and in a way that resonates! #LikeaBoss
He's a legend!
In the end I didn’t understand how we should train in zone 2 in a run for exemple but great video
If i understood it correctly, dont focus on the speed and if you HR is climbing Slow it down. I hope that is right and Jason can confirm. This interview was great.
@@Mr.Norm1739 thanks but I don’t think so
Slow down... stay in that zone!!
Thanks Jason and Chris! Lots of gems in here ❤
Thanks for watching!
Grubb n hinshaw...my favorite two dudes in the sport. awesome vid!
Honored to be mentioned alongside such a legend! Thanks for watching!
Awesome interview Jason! I myself would like to talk to Chris about myself I’m 73 and workouts are sometimes difficult for me. Great to see you Friday at Mayhem in the parking lot
It would be great to have an opportunity to have a second interview to talk through some of the unique challenges for athletes 55+
Awesome stuff Jason! The Zone 2 training discussion was very interesting. My aerobic capacity has always been my limiter so I would run after workouts to try to improve it but I was always more concerned about my pace and not my heart rate. Lately I've incorporated walking into my running if my heart rate gets too high or just go for long walks. I will also slow down or reduce the damper on the erg bike to stay in that zone 2. It's been really hard for me to do but after hearing this I know I'm doing the right thing and need to do it more. Henshaw is always a great interview. Thanks!
So many gems from Hinshaw... this was one of my favorite points!
So interesting! Given Chris’s experience, it would be great to know if it is healthier long endurance training or HIIT crossfit workout (especially for older athletes). THKS
I think his answer would be BOTH - light long training and intense training along with relatively heavy weight training - especially for older athletes.
Awesome channel, im getting hooked! Im 36, just restarted crossfit after a short try last year and a back injury. Ill put your knowledge to good use:)
Awesome!! Keep crushing it!
Needed this I’ve been training high intensity too much!!
Glad you found it helpful!
Agree. I'm about to cross over to 55+ and they don't seem to give this group the credit. Keep the high skill! Keep the weight. I'm never going to the games but still the challenge.
Hopefully they're hearing enough feedback that they are underestimating you guys!
You make that hoodie look good Jason! Thanks for the video, as a newbie to crossfit, and a masters I'm trying to learn as much as possible about how to have fun, stay healthy, avoid injury and most of all IMPROVE as fast as possible 😝 Your videos help me on my journey!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
This is a great conversation.
Thanks for watching! Huge fan of your gear!!
Wow excellent info. Thanks for putting this out.
My pleasure!
Outstanding discussion. Thank you.
Thanks for listening!
This guy really seems to know his stuff. I enjoyed this interview.
He sure does.
I do recognize the part of retainment al lot. At 1st I got angry when I was out for 2 weeks and felt iIneeded to start al over again. I never felt that in the past. But the past is like 20 Years ago when I was 20 years younger. Once I accepted that part I got more relaxed and enjoyed training a lot more because I could accept a bad training day a lot better.
For sure man!! Not every day is a PR day!!!
Brilliant interview thanks Jason 👌👌👌
A great interviewee makes it easy!
Two legends. Thank you for this.
Glad you liked it! Chris was so generous with his time!
you're killing it man. keep it up Grbb. i love it. thank you!!
You bet man! Thanks for being part of this channel and community!
Great stuff brother!
Appreciate it!
Fantastic interview and excellent insight!!! Thanks Champ!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wonderful information 👊🏾 Thanks guys
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great interview CHAMP
Glad you enjoyed it Fabio!
what an incredible interview. wish i could train with you, man. legend.
Maybe I'll be near you sometime in the future and we can 👊
Great Interview Jason 👍
Thanks! it was my first interview... luckily Chris was amazing to interview.
Great interview!
Thank you!
Great content! I am 32, just started crossfit 2 months ago and I love it. however, even if I am 32, I find interesting this kind of content related to masters athlete because I am in for the long run and soon I will become a master too!
Aging is coming for everyone lol - you'll definitely be at an advantage getting this info early (without the pain of having to learn it on your own)
thanks for this great content.....KEEP GRIND'N
Always!
Soo good. Love it. The mental and the physical, the calculative prediction and the physical execution. Such an awsome balance.
He dropped so many amazing nuggets of information!
Would love to see the whole, uncut, interview.😍😎😉
You wouldn't 🤣🤣🤣 I basically just cut down my long-winded questions between his amazing answers.
@@JasonGrubb tis are long winded questions of a well balanced masters champion...
Great stuff!
Thanks!
Jason, you mentioned tendonitis in your elbow, I think, like tennis elbow. What'd you do for that? I'm 50 back to exercising after 12 years at my local CF box. I did a farmer's carry this morning with 10lb kB in each hand. Coach said no, you're just going to the store, you need to carry 25lb each in order to get anything from this. He said my grip was weak and this is why I have the tendonitis. Does this ring true?
Tendonitis isn't from a weak grip - it's from overuse. I had to take a break from anything grippy for about 6 weeks (while training for a 1/2 ironman). That did the trick.
Great Interview 👍👍 for someone who just started with fitness - Chris has spoken a lot about "Zone 2" - What is the definition of "zone2"? did not find any table or scheme
Great question. Zone 2 is maintaining roughly 60%-70% of your maximum heart rate for a long duration. It's a sweet spot between easy and moderate training. Here's a good article on the topic: www.livescience.com/zone-2-training
I like the Maffetone method because it's easy to calculate. It's simply 180 minus your age +/-5 beats. Try to stay in that heart rate zone for a minimum of 45 minutes per session.
9:06
I think anyone that has ever done CrossFit could agree with that. Absolutely, you can’t go balls to the wall day in and day out, regardless of your age. I fell in love with CrossFit from the word go, but I have always had an issue with the programming. I’ve always felt that there has to be a better, smarter way to get there without the constant, daily grind. A balance. There has to be a balance. If you do this long enough, one way or another, you’re going to figure that out. The issue here is that people shouldn’t have to figure that out the hard way. We just need smarter programming, and I would think it’s fair to say, that we just don’t have that at most boxes.
Good stuff! I'd also add that even if there is good programming, some of us (ME lol) won't listen before we find out the hard way
Great content but Chris never answered the question of my intent on the c2 bike is stamina (zone 2) what can I do to make sure I'm actually achieving that and not allowing my heart rate to go up by maintaining the same speed? Slow down? What if we don't have a HRM? I've been using nasal breathing and wondering if that's a good measure...
You slow down... yes. Even if you don't have a HRM - when you feel yourself ramping up too much, slow down a tad.
Just watched your video against the teenager! You are a huge inspiration! John (36) from Greece
Wow, thank you. I did my best to represent us "old guys"
Jason! loving the content and that you were so patient in listening on this! Your adjustment from scripting out your own videos to sitting back and listening was impressive. I don't know if i need to subscribe to Mayhem (or your coaching) or just do more research, but is Hinshaw saying, don't let your heart rate drift up during zone 2? Like we should slow down and maintain the heart rate?
Yep... slow down. It's nuts, but that's the recipe!!
@@JasonGrubb Thanks Coach. Again, premium content. Can hardly wait to watch the Grit vid you did here shortly!
And this is Free! What a great video…
Yes! Thank you!
So for a 58 yr old man HIT cardio (which i love) versus slow long steady state cardio (which i hate) , how should i be programming each in my Crossfit training?
Hey Derek - Honestly... I don't recommend programming for yourself. I think that's one of the hardest things to do unless you are a programmer specifically. Does that make sense? It's like asking your accountant how you should do your own taxes. Outsource your programming and follow a good plan - a plan that has a good mix of short, medium, and long sessions/workouts. A mix of heavy, light, bodyweight... etc. I'm happy to help ya find a program (one of mine or someone else's depending on your overall goals). Just shoot me a volley message: talk.volley.app/jasongrubb
As a newly minted 40 yo, this is not only great advice, but it's nice to hear someone talking about me like I talk about 20 yo's
🤣
Chris Hinshaw is great coach and what makes him great is the scientific approach, huge fan of it.
He's a wealth of information... could have interviewed him for hours!
What about being 69 .. it was hard open 2024 I dropped asap as it's looked impossible for me.
I think it is very challenging at that age... but progress can be made with consistent effort, quality nutrition, and appropriate recovery.
My chief concern with 55+ programming is the movements that wear and tear on the joints. Please understand it is not THE workout. Anyone can do one Games workout if they have the skills. The challenge comes from training for those movements in competition. For example, rope climbs, even legless, are not a problem for most 55+ competitors. But when you are training for a comp, you are training for time so you are dead dropping from 15-feet. That can lead to ankle and foot injuries especially since most boxes don’t have crash pads. Same can be said for rebound box jumps and TnG HSPU. I agree that Boz needs to bring in an older athlete or even an orthopedic to help create workouts that don’t beat up our joints.
I would argue that no masters athletes should be dead dropping rope climbs - I get down just as fast without dead dropping. No TnG box jumps... they're not that much faster. HSPU... not sure there. Just have to be smart.
I think that there is a balance that you have to find... pushing hard enough to improve and staying smart enough to not get injured.
I’ve been saying this for a while now. 😅 HQ needs to get their stuff together.
I think it's part of the growing pains of the sport and believe they are actively working on it. Can't wait to see next year's programming.
@@JasonGrubb I don’t think they’re actively working on it. When you want something improved it can be done very quickly. 🤷♀️
I think we can all agree there are deficiencies currently and the end goal is to have an amazing sport. Would I like to see changes and improvements specifically related to masters athletes? Of course... but I'm also just thankful CrossFit has given me a platform to compete as a 46-year-old. lol
45-49 age group is a narrow age range.
50+ is a very broad range and therefore requires a bigger drop in intensity to not eliminate 60+ athletes.
I hear what you're saying, but there is are 50-54, 55-59, 60-64, and 65+ age groups at the games. With the capacity of athletes increasing every year, I could see it being a difficult balance to provide the correct stimulus.
I want to see a olympic tri at the games
Me too!!! Absolutely!
I wish crossfit had more programing for masters
I use Mayhem Masters and it's fantastic! If you want to check it out, use code: Jason for a discount.
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Thanks for watching!
I can’t stay in zone 2 no matter how slow I run. Biking is easier stay in zone 2
I struggle to get to zone 2 on a bike!