Hahahahahaha!!!! GOOD! I've never been an LG fan, and I couldn't care LESS about their TVs. I prefer any of the other big brands, whether it's TCL, Hisense, Samsung, or even Soyny. 😄
They're killing it in all segments & price ranges. LG & Samsung tv's are trash at the entry level and mid tier. It's here where Hisense and TCL dominate. They've also taken over the large screen segment.
On one side you have companies who do all the innovating but also overcharge and then the otherside is a bunch of IP stealing slave labor using companies who do not innovate but charge prices closer to what they should. Pick your poison.
@AX5Terminator imagine when more automaton is implemented but by then everything will be so cheap, nobody would own anything and be happy about. Just subscription fee
Not adding the MLA to their C-Series isn't helping LG. Dropping prices alone won't be enough. They need to add MLA to the C-Series to compete with QD-OLED at the midrange.
The way things are moving today, and the problems in India with iPhone production having defects, hair and even feces embedded in them. The world may skip India and move straight to South America or Africa. The Chinese are investing massively in the continents and expanding BRICS/BRI, but without the IMF’s debt trap. Meanwhile they’re investing and betting heavily into automation and AI at home to maintain their manufacturing leadership.
I still think LG should include MLA on the C series. I agree that immersion is a real thing but at what size does the screen become too big to fit in ones room?
Exactly. MLA with slightly worse processing than the G series. Just have the G series be the better designed, better built and better warranteed product.
I've been waiting for an OLED over 90 inches for $10k or less for at least 7 years now. Once you go big, there's no going back. I still have a 92 inch DLP in my living room.
The peak market for OLED was during the transition to 4K which plasma tv couldn't do and at that time LCD was mediocre. Now LCD has improved greatly with QD and mini LED technology, and it continues to improve but it's already more than good enough for most buyers. With 85+ inch size becoming the new must have feature it makes the market for OLED limited to tech enthusiasts which never works out in the long run.
I've had a 55" TCL R615 since 2018 that I still absolutely love. I got a 65" QM8 last year and it's been a phenomenal TV! I got it over the C2 because I work from home and I watch too many channels that have tickers/banners/logos. And the room where the QM8 is gets stupid bright. So the TCL was the safer option for me
@@swishy4mbg China has basically eliminated the competition in solar panels and yet solar panel prices are cheaper than ever. So your statement is flat out wrong.
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8:18 "eliminated burn in several years back..." Yeah that's just wrong. Burn in has not been eliminated for any OLED panels.
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@@GoranTosev8989 I've owned my Panasonic plasma since Feb 2013 and have played many games, watched sports, news channels, and have lots of other static images on the screen over the years and luckily don't have any burn in issues either but that doesn't mean it is eliminated. For a UA-cam channel specializing in talking about TV tech, it is important to get the facts right. He specifically said the issue has been eliminated and that is utterly false.
QD-OLED have higher burn in rates due to all the pixels needing to be on to produce a white background. WOLED doesn't suffer burn in nearly as much since they only need to turn on the white LED for white backgrounds.
@@theripper121 People have done test to prove exactly that especially when the OLED is used as a monitor or with images that produce white background or white static images within a logo. Rtings has shown QDOLED burn in rates are higher then woled for the very reason I expand as well. Look up Samsung S90D burn in and you'll see for yourself a set that just came out in 2024 is already having issues. Of course it will vary from user to user but burn in is still a problem you can encounter. I forgot the other site that did the burn in test for OLED panels but look it up yourself.
The problem with a lot of consumer electronics is that they price themselves out of reach for most people. When you can get a much better looking tv at larger size for the same price people are going to pick the Hisense and TCL's. I don't really trust the Chinese brands reliability but I don't blame people for rolling the dice on them.
That and the CCP ties are always a concern. I might be over reacting, but the fact a government is closely tied to or in a lot of cases owns these companies rubs me the wrong way. All companies do data collection, but I'm always concened if the CCP is going to use it in a more nefarious way beyond just trying to sell me junk.
That and.. Wages in China are significantly lower, which reduces labor costs. Additionally, these companies receive government support, which are the main reasons their products are cheaper
@@AleX-techlab The cost a product can be sold at is based on many factors, such as R&D budget which is the biggest factor, companies can spend billions! Then there is wages, advertising budget, etc.... Chinese companies making things so cheap has me thinking they mustn't spend much on anything, that means cutting costs on R&D, peoples wages (working for a bowl of rice and lots of people throwing themselves out of a window because of the hours they have to work for almost nothing!), parts, worse support, little to no advertising plus and this is another big one, the chinese government subsidises the TVs costs....... How can first world nations compete when shitty countries do this kind of terrible behaviour? If you want to support a dictatorship and shitty wages with shitty working conditions then buy cheap, if you want to support good wages and conditions then pay a little more, you will get a better product too!
@@AleX-techlab yeah but I just wanted to add a bit more nuance to the discussion, seems to be lacking a bit. There is also the amount of units you can make effects the unit price and predicted sales, like if you are making them in volume for a smaller profit margin or a small amount so you need to raise prices. There are so many things to consider when running a business.
I bought a Hisense 65" U8N, and it's been fantastic. This is coming from an LG OLED. The black level is very close to OLED, but gets oh so much brighter. Using the set just for movie/video playback. Using the OLED for gaming as the response time is much faster. The release of microLED is growing in need as OLED is close to maxing out on tech.
Deciding between the LG B4 77 and Hisense U8N 75. Only concern is the viewing angle bc my living room is a good size so not everyone will have a direct view. Is the Hisense angle THAT much worse?
@vrgrz123 sir B4 has no brightness, its good in a light controlled room for SDR content, but a poor HDR TV. OLED has superior viewing angles though...
@@TheKwod Yall thinking HDR is all about brightness only just make me laugh… you guys who say this have zero understanding of what HDR really is. The proof is in your ignorant comments, with no factual basis to your claims. “No brightness”… what a moronic statement as well. Like what world are you living in lol. The b4 beats many LCD’s, obviously not all, but many, in brightness. It’s like we forget what is actually going on, and what luminance measurements actually mean in terms of RWC. OLED beats almost all LCDs in pure objective PQ and contrast modulation. You don’t need 1000 nits full field to have an enjoyable viewing experience. Anyone watching serious content in a light filled room, is moronic. I also can’t wait for all these eye issues about to be popping up. You’ll see what I mean, in due time. “Poor HDR TV….” Tell that to the colorists out there mastering on LG OLEDs. Like me, they’ll sculf at that ludicrously.
@@ye-ROC Brightness is part and parcel of HDR, of course the 100% brightness on a B4 is only 145nits vs 500-800 on "cheaper" mini led. OLED also have to contend with aggressive ABL, especially on larger sizes. Me, id avoid the lower end OLEDs, especially when DV is heading towards 4000/10000nits. If someone wants to buy a 55/65in B4 mainly for SDR content, that would be okay unless the room was very bright. You're just one of these weird OLED snobs who stupidly thinks OLEDS have no issues and acts like the low end OLEDs are as good as a QD OLED.
@vrgrz123 OLEDs will always beat LCD on viewing angle. That being said, I find the viewing angle on the U8N definitely acceptable, unless you are on extreme angle.
The cost a product can be sold at is based on many factors, such as R&D budget which is the biggest factor, companies can spend billions! Then there is wages, advertising budget, etc.... Chinese companies making things so cheap has me thinking they mustn't spend much on anything, that means cutting costs on R&D, peoples wages (working for a bowl of rice and lots of people throwing themselves out of a window because of the hours they have to work for almost nothing!), parts, worse support, little to no advertising plus and this is another big one, the chinese government subsidises the TVs costs....... How can first world nations compete when shitty countries do this kind of terrible behaviour? If you want to support a dictatorship and shitty wages with shitty working conditions then buy cheap, if you want to support good wages and conditions then pay a little more, you will get a better product too!
Still rocking a 77 inch C1 and couldn’t be happier. Haven’t seen anything yet that’s blown my socks off to replace it with. Gonna be a sad day when it gives out. Honestly I’ll probably try to find a used one to buy.
Don’t ever let anyone take the joy you’ve experienced with your OLED away. They’ll try and do that, believe me. If you’re like me, and know what you like, and enjoy what you got with a LG OLED, just keep rolling. Even with QD-OLED and the benefits it has, and some disadvantages, I still see little reason til that tech matures. I personally don’t trust Samsung as far as I can throw a stick. No tv is perfect anyways… NONE! I also have found no real reason to upgrade from my C2. I am a freaking display geek too. I live this shit. I know what’s out there, and what they’re capable of. Tnh, I already have severe eye strain as it is, from what many laymen’s would call a “dim” tv. By no means is the C2 I have “dim”. When my eyes feel like they’re bleeding, even just watching SDR content at normal SDR luminance levels, I know more would not equate to better”. I know this for a fact…..considering I also own 2000nit QLEDs. It’s all I owned before OLED. IMO, flat out luminance is overrated and possibly not the best for our health. The luminance needs to make sense, if you get me…. I know the whole argument that our eyes see way higher luminance levels on a daily basis…. But it’s also not artificially generated light, SPD/ waveforms, that use additive color to produce color. In my mind, those two aren’t the same, and there is a difference between a tv producing light artificially, and real sunlight and color. Also, it’s not advised to go out and look at the sun, which we often do when inspecting our specular highlights. When is that going to become actually dangerous lol? Who knows I guess 🤷
@@ye-ROC I just got a G3 instead of s90d after LG confirmed to me that Burn in is covered. It feels like a legit trade of. Imaging buying a $2000 tv and it gets burned after 4 years. Then one have actually paid $500/year for a tv that now is damaged :| but yeah, maybe the qdled is nicer than wloead but as long as i dont have the two tv:s next to each other, i prob wont think about it.
It's not that. Wages in China are significantly lower, which reduces labor costs. Additionally, these companies receive government support, which is the main reason their products are cheaper.
What makes you think they are over charging? The cost a product can be sold at is based on many factors, such as R&D budget which is the biggest factor, companies can spend billions! Then there is wages, advertising budget, etc.... Chinese companies making things so cheap has me thinking they mustn't spend much on anything, that means cutting costs on R&D, peoples wages (working for a bowl of rice and lots of people throwing themselves out of a window because of the hours they have to work for almost nothing!), parts, worse support, little to no advertising plus and this is another big one, the chinese government subsidises the TVs costs....... How can first world nations compete when shitty countries do this kind of terrible behaviour? If you want to support a dictatorship and shitty wages with shitty working conditions then buy cheap, if you want to support good wages and conditions then pay a little more, you will get a better product too!
@@AleX-techlabThe Chinese are doing what LG and Samsung themselves did in the late 2000s until 2015, they sold complete TVs that were much cheaper than the Japanese ones, why do you think Samsung surpassed Sony?
What makes you think people are getting ripped off? The cost a product can be sold at is based on many factors, such as R&D budget which is the biggest factor, companies can spend billions! Then there is wages, advertising budget, etc.... Chinese companies making things so cheap has me thinking they mustn't spend much on anything, that means cutting costs on R&D, peoples wages (working for a bowl of rice and lots of people throwing themselves out of a window because of the hours they have to work for almost nothing!), parts, worse support, little to no advertising plus and this is another big one, the chinese government subsidises the TVs costs....... How can first world nations compete when shitty countries do this kind of terrible behaviour? If you want to support a dictatorship and shitty wages with shitty working conditions then buy cheap, if you want to support good wages and conditions then pay a little more, you will get a better product too!
@@barryjones2366 Well if you can take 50-90% off and still make a profit that would be a good indicator that you are ripping people off...And that is basically what most TV manufacturers are doing. You think the other TV brands don't make their stuff in countries with cheaper labor markets including China? They are using the same factories and the same workers. Some of them are even using the same panels and calling them premium. If you want to pay 3x the price for basically the same product then be my guest but don't try and argue that paying more somehow is morally superior. Miss me with that shit.
It's not that for me. I don't care about the price at all. Samsung's operating systems run like trash. My 100 inch Hisense which is half the price run so much better. I hit the menu button and the menu actually pops up. The Samsung takes 15 seconds to even start now
I am a Sony guy, and Panasonic before that. I just bought my first TCL QM7 75 inch and I am very impressed so far. Gaming on this thing is incredible! Best $900 I ever spent.
I got the 98" TCL micro QLC for $1700. It went into a very bright room so OLED was not an option. I thought I might be disappointed with the performance but it is fine so long as you are not looking next to each other.
@ I got the qm7 98" for 1700. I had been looking at a small oled. I was worried the performance would be bad, but it looks fine unless you look at an oled next to it like at the store.
My gut says that even if LG had announced MLA in 2021, QD OLED would have erased the hype on MLA in 2022. I was actually shocked that there was ANY response from LG to QD OLED at all! I feel like LG's release of MLA the same year as QD OLED kept them alive, especially since the G4 keeps winning everyone's Best TV pick.
I bought a Samsung 65 inch QN90D 3 months ago, i upgraded from a 46 inch Samsung LED used 11 years. Now I feel should have gone for Hisense 85 inch. Size matters. Forget the picture quality, I don't find any difference. Samsung neo qled showed signs of screen issue.
TCL and Hisense are just simply giving people more TV for less money! They are outperforming much more expensive sets from the big 3, and processing is getting better also. Only a matter of time before the big 3 will have to come in at a better price to compete.
@AndrewB23 even at the smaller sizes, they are way cheaper for 90% of the performance of the big 3, many times outperforming them. It's good to have competition.
@@johnlegg6661 Dont drink the payed influencers Kool Aid. The TCL and Hisense TVs made major leaps in quality but they are still clearly inferior products. The buildquality on Hisense and TCL TVs is a joke and their rate of failure is very high. No matter how many dimming zones they put into their TVs, they cant manage the backlight control algorithm and never will.
I worked at this place... One day, all kinds of people were talking about how their LG TV's, appliances broke just after warranty. EXTREMELY quickly after warranty. If fact, so many people were saying that.... convinced me never to buy an LG product at all. Ask around at your work. What I heard was crazy !!
naaa, 3 scenarios, most likely the Chinese will give in to our demands, they will drop their prices even more or manufacturing will go out of china to Vietnam or US.
Which the purpose is to actually bring more jobs back state side while also being used as a plea bargaining deal! Just look at Trudo literally folding in front of Trump like that Beta he's always has been!😂😂😂
you are very right, samsung should be more afraid, going down 13 points, and samsung source their LCD or LED Display from TCL CSOT, Next year samsung will be down 19 points.
This is the biggest issue for other brands in general: Wages in China are significantly lower, which reduces labor costs. Additionally, these companies receive government support, which is the main reason their products are cheaper. Tariffs on Chinese products is the way to go.
I love my Hisense U76 100inch tv I got during Black Friday! Blacks are close or in the ballpark of OLED, and this is just full-array not the mini-led version. The value of it is so good I feel like I stole something.
@ Sony already buys the majority of their LCD panels from TCL, so it’s not a huge leap for them to adopt the WHVA panels in their TVs. It’s just a matter of overcoming their slower & more conservative approach to new tech.
@@itwasntoptional5768 It might be, but I doubt it’s any more expensive than an OLED panel, which Sony & Panasonic already buy. We’ll get an idea of price when we see which TCL & Samsung models include it.
This is great news. SONY and LG need to wake the hell up and actually give the consumers what they want and at an affordable price. Sony especially has gotten way to cocky thinking they won’t lose sales to TCL or Hisense. People are wising up. Charging what they do for say a Bravia 9 is highway robbery. Congrats to TCL for stepping up. At this rate they’ll leave Sony and LG in the dust within 2 years.
Purchased the Hisense 65" U8N. Is it as amazing as the TV's 2-3x as expensive? Yeah, it kind of is. I don't see any reason to buy anything expensive anymore when the base line is so good. It's nearly perfect. Only thing I'd upgrade for is if LG brings back passive 3D. That's worth a ton alone but I'm not holding my breath for manufacturers to get back into the world. But that's what I'd say they could do, bring back what was amazing, 4k passive 3D.
Same. It’s been a fantastic set. Unlike my 2016 LG C6 I don’t connect it to the internet and only use the Apple TV 4K for streaming. Keeps Samsung from updating the firmware and no ads.
@@ShotgunSandwichENT The 77 has a different panel- It doesn't have the uniformity issue - all 83 OLEDTVs use the same panel going back years and they all have this problem - LG calls it the moire effect and won't fix it under warranty which is compete BS - the panel just sucks
Just bought a 75 inch Hisense U7N for an awesome price of $897 off Amazon 😎 I saw they also have a U8 65" model on there for the same price. They sell fast but I ordered mine on a sunday and had by 8am on Tuesday! Impressive for a freight shipped item! Any tips or tricks for getting the best setup on the U7N would be much appreciated 😊
LG got fat and sassy while they were dominating the oled market for almost a decade ... untill, Samsung slapped them a bit of sense with the S95B, that came with brighter, more colorful QD-oled panels. Sadly, as consumers, LG did not respond the way we expected or wanted. Now they are in trouble.
In early 2023 I bought a 55 inch Hisense 4k Smart TV from Costco. After 6 months of owning started acting up. . I'll be watching TV and on it's own would go back to the home screen. Found out main board defective from manufacturer.
Poor Sony, oh how the mighty have fallen.....I would be surprised if Sony goes outta the TV business in the next 5 years because their share of the market is so tiny now...plus, their TVs cost too much and their quality and reliability of their TVs are very questionable now.
I don’t call them Poor. They drain 😮consumer $Billions over d years when they did NOT Have best TV since early 2000s. Our Business professor in Canada 🇨🇦 where Rtings at . Spent 2 hrs telling ppl that SONY’s 90%!revenue r Entry / mid range . Since they do NOT have highest technology, they will PAY 💰 more to USE Compitition patterns (Sharp / Samsung / LG …. ) to up their Flagship prestige , n 2-3X price of mid range - Entry 😮customers who r struggling with 😮finance ! Because it is --- MUCH Cheaper to produce 200000 of same TV even sell at half price off flagship ! Than producing 8000 units of flagship (u can not charge flagship 10X price ! So they yearly lose money 💰 from producing flagship ) flagship-- made by Other brands Pattern that SONY doesn’t have 😮 is called UP Sell truck in Sales / Marketing . N still cheaper than casting Tv commercials . Their goal is how to juice 🧃 As MUCH money 💰 on low budget consumers as they can to make the money back from Flagship n pay for the Coat of Pattern they borrow from competition making flagship . N in 3 yr , ppl want upgrade ,,, they r pulled by d urge from Futurr Flagship ! Rinse n repeat ! 😮 Hisense / TCL has high Integrity n Hornor ! That -- Business lecture 2 hrs reallly crush my spine . It hurt !
Prices are tough but my Sony Bravia XR A90 has been great. No questionable reliability there. Consumer Reports actually rates Sony, LG and Samsung at the top of the charts for reliability. That info is current.
My older LED Visio TV was amazing, watching it straight on. Off angle viewing was AWFUL! Like it started washing out, sitting at the ends of the couch, that was right in front of it lol.
If this pans out I am wondering what effect it might haveo n Apples plan to bring out a TV. I just don't see that there is a market espe4cially with the move to larger screen sizs comes ot pass in the premium market.
Decent customer experience w LG (Canada). Sent 400$ towards my C3 OLED after my 6 year old B7 got burn in. For gaming room bought a qm7, arrived defective. Returned and went with Bravia 7. Not ruling out TCL though for next tv.
Nope, actually we all samsung fans love it. We can keep the hdr10+ for us.😂 I like that hdr10+ better than dolby vision. Want samsung and other manufacturers to lower the price of tvs tell dolby vision to make it a free format. Amazon just started charging people 2.99 extra a month if you want to watch dolby vision content😂 go figure. Dolby charges amazon and amazon charges us. All content now in HDR10+ from amazon is free of charge for me no extra 2.99
@ Other manufacturers are able to lower their price and offer Dolby Vision is the main reason why their losing market share 😂. Not implementing a feature and still having premium prices tv’s than the competition that does really defeats your argument
Thanks for the video. Tv names are very confusing. My son broke my lg c1 so now I'm in the market for a new one. Thanks to you I now know that the LG G4 is the good one so that's the one I'll get 😁. Thankyou
TCL actually is manufacturing Oled panels for many of Chinese phones. I guess right now they are not much interested in high end segments like Oled until their Oled tech matures enough to produce products of insane performance/price competition like they always does.
The Best Buy all near me in Seattle don't even display the Q7 QN7 or QM7, which are probably the best value/performance sets in the market. Are they worried it will eat into the higher price Korean sets once people see how good they are for the price? I myself have S90C and QN90C, and love it but next round of buying TVs I will be eyeing the Chinese brands. I think they have already caught up to LG and Samsung.
LG is not a huge company. Not in comparison to the others. They certainly don't have Microsoft or Samsung money. They have far less overall to spend on RnD. I think both Samsung and LGs days at the top of the TV heap will be over. I think that's inevitable. The Chinese brands like TCL, Hisense, Xiaomi etc....are doing to them now what they did to the Japanese brands 15 plus years ago. And none of it is helped by slipping quality standards. Especially in Samsung's case.
Which is why they've had a literally monopoly on OLED do to the fact they had nothing else. Their LCD tvs are practically useless especially when compared to TCL and Hisense! I was predicting this would of eventually happen to the Korean brands. Also both TCL and Hisense is going to producing inkjet printed OLED tvs . Once that happens it's game over for both Samsung and LG OLEDs?
@@walidhannaoui1802 Are you sure about Sony? LG is probably bigger now that Sony is just a shell of its former self. Sony without Playstation is a very niche brand.
If LG can cut prices by 25 to 30%, that will make their flagship TV's accessible to SO many more people, not to mention will make previous year flagships sell like hotcakes on sale during clearance in the midrange market before the release of the following year's flagships. Once the C to G range level TVs are in tons of people's houses, wowing guests and getting tons of word of mouth, LG will be top dog again. The cost reduction is the best move they could make right now in the bang-for-buck environment where Hisense and TCL are having a field day. This year I bought a Hisense for myself and a TCL for my parents. LG definitely would have been on my radar had they reached this point sooner
I think it's all the early adopters are now going back to cheap LCDs. After spending 3k on 65" OLED and its now trash with screen burn and color distortion. Then price, you can get 77" for 600 usd.
Hopefully OLED won't go the way of plasma. How many years was the defunct Pioneer Kuro better than anything new? It reminds me of my 30 year old Gen 1 Lightning truck. Even at that age and 90K miles there is no new truck at any price that will run as trouble-free and is as easy to fix. It's a half million mile truck. What's new that won't have major failures before 200K? Progress.
I still have an old Panasonic plasma that still looks amazing. I replaced it in my family room with a new, calibrated LG OLED. And my wife made me bring back the plasma.
My LG CX has really good picture quality and I still love the way it looks (both picture and the TV set itself), but the top pixels have started dying (looks like blobs of dead pixels). I started researching this thing and I found out this is a widespread problem affecting all the lg oled tv's even newer ones C2's and C3's. Lg is quiet about this and most often the affected tv's are out of warranty and the costs of replacing the panel is absurd . Because of this when it came for a new tv, I avoided them and bought a TCL qm7. Picture quality is not as good but close enough (I would consider 90% of the oled quality) but the price difference is substantial. So I was put between choosing a expensive Lg oled which will probably fail again and a close enough tcl but at half the price with 5 year warranty. I chose to keep more money in my pocket. LE: The Lg is 3 years old
Same here bro. My CX is having blobs of black on top and bottom. Only matter of time it dies. Planning to go for hisense qled next for gaming, as mini LEDs are good enough.
I have a 73" A80j, I love my Oled but I want my next tv to be 85 (83) - 100", and Oled can't do that affordably yet, and MiniLEd and QD tech has got good enough I think I'll be satisfied enough
These Chinese TVs are cheap and fully loaded with features. However , based on my experience they are not durable. Quality control is lacking. I have a Samsung Led 40 inch for over 9 years going which I now put in my guest room.
That Max OLED sounds like a really good thing. Hopefully it can become reality and come to TVs. Maybe perfectly in time for my next upgrade or it being out for a 1-2 years so it can mature. I am sticking with my B9 85" at least 5 years. I love it. But of course I would love an OLED that actually could be like Max OLED. More efficient, maybe burn-in will be even more a thing of the past and finally ASBL being minimized or almost gone. Then we're really talking.
I am ALL IN on the new 85” TCL QM951 with over 10k dimming zones in 2025!! 🎉. If not I’ll wait for the QM8 85” to come down to replace my 65” Samsung QN90C 🎉
Question: Since Blue PhOLED is not where it needs to be, could LG just go the Apple route and do double OLED panels (read stacked) to increase the longevity of the TVs while also being able to increase brightness without having to over drive pixels to get crazy brightness. I don't really follow the Apple hype, but If I am not mistaken, this is what they are doing on their new high end monitors/panels to increase nits while ensuring longevity of their OLEDs. I would not be surprised if LG is the one providing this tech to Apple.
Yeah I'm not sure when people stopped by 20- 30 inch Tvs but not everyone wants a 55 inch tv in their bedroom. Some of us want a high quality, small tv. I _can_ fit a 50 inch tv in a bedroom but I'd rather have more space.
WOLED is dated . Hisense U8N / Sony Bravi9, TCL Qm851 all have ---- wait for this 3 X or more of color Densiry 🔮🔮🧿🧿🪲🪲🌹🌹🌺🌺 of G3 G4 🧩🧩🍡🍬🍉🍉 🌸🌸🥗🥗🏞️🏞️🏖️🏖️🏔️🏔️most Normal pics 99% images r not even black . The G3 G4 will be more of --2D but by brain 🧠 placebo seen as more 3D .
@@Yoga_Tv_buying not for PC gaming. the TCL you wrote can't have 4:4:4 Chroma at Game Mode where you need it for low response time. this alone is a no-buy.
I got a tcl over the lg. The price of the same size was the deciding factor. I'm happy to pa a little more for a better tv but not over double the price.
We all had W-oled dead, after QD oled came out, then the introduced MLA and resurrected W Oled! I think they will come up with something, that takes it to the next level.
Did I mess up by getting the LG G4? I don’t want an obsolete TV. The Bravia nine was about $1000 Canadian cheaper than it at the same 77 inch size range. But I wanted OLED. But it looks like they are going to way of plasma. I don’t even know anymore. This is depressing
Don't worry about it the G4 was voted King of TVs in the TV blind shootout this year! It will be plenty good for the next 10+ years or so. 😀Any owner of an OLED can be perfectly happy with their choice! There are much more positives than negatives compared to all other display types. OLED has the best viewing angles, picture sharpness/clarity, no blooming, bright, consistently high contrast, colours are some of the best you can get with QDs, pixel response times. Negatives are higher price, is more susceptible to burn-in, can't get as bright for the brightest highlights and scenes but those are pretty rare cases, for almost all scenes OLED will be brighter with more contrast. LCD positives are it's cheaper normally, it gets brighter but only for the brightest highlights and scenes which are rare, near black handling can be better but only on a Sony. Negatives are many.....slower pixel response times, worse game mode local dimming performance, worse viewing angles (can be very narrow), worse picture sharpness/clarity, blooming, hazy scenes sometimes...... OLED is clearly the best tech out there!
😂😂😂😂 bro I have a g1 that still beats mini led I wouldn't even bother upgrading for the next 7 years if it wasn't for the size if the g4 was cheaper I'd upgrade to it I still think mini led is 3 years away from matching oled in all areas
@@e4superfly let’s see I might have to do mini led next time. I feel sad everytime i see my g4 not because I hate it but because I might be one of the last OLED TVs
@@giantpizzasunset2534 no I genuinely like my OLED a lot but this video and a few other reviews of how many LED is just so good and then shrinking sales are all making me worried about the future of it and I don’t wanna get used to technology that I love so much and then never be able to have something so good again
Just went from the TCL 6 series (2018) to the Samsung S90D. While the S90D is insanely amazing, that TCL still keeps up with most mid level TV's I've seen in stores recently (yes, I know they're in demo mode)
No . I’ll only buy mini LED for the foreseeable future because I leave my tv on all the time . Maybe the next new technology . Love my 85” QM851 . Thank you FOMO ❤🎉
98 wouldn’t fit . I’m in a 12 X14 room . Had to move out of my big house to care for my aunt . But . Hopefully if I out live my aunt I’ll be able to buy another house and go bigger but I love my aunt and sacrifices must be made . I hope you enjoy it . Please let us know how it works for you .👍❤️🎉
I don't think there will be any significant tech jump for 2025 tv's except for maybe TCL RGB OLED 4k/8k TV releasing at the end of 2025. WHVA panels only improve wide angle viewing but viewing it from the front won't be any significant difference. I think the most new stuff that will come out in 2025 will be higher refresh rate tv's that are 150-175hz. I hardly noticed the difference between 120hz vs 144hz so I doubt it will be really noticeable for 144hz vs 175hz. The viewing experience for new QDOLED , LED tv's, OLED in 2025 likely will be an equal to minor improvement over the 2024 models, at least for 55" TV's , usually 65" models look more different from each other compared to the previous model range. This was evident on the Hisense U8K vs U8N 65" model, it looked equal to minor to significantly better depending on the scene/game being played etc 2026 should be a big year for TV's, Max OLED from Samsung, TCL RGB OLED and possibly NanoLED and smaller MicroLED TV's that are 55-65"
I’m fairly certain LG make panels for lots of other brands inc Hisense not to mention screens for phones so I doubt the market share is an issue - i personally own some high end LG TVs and recently purchased the 85 inch Hisense h7 pro which was phenomenal value vrs Samsung
I bought Hisense 42 inch QLED direct lit for less than 200$ on Black Friday. The menu look like the Sony’s with less options. Google tv is nice. It’s feels cheap but the panel is decent for everyday use. Not a gamer tv.
Most people don't watch TV very far off angle. The market demands what it wants. In 5 years other than small screens monitors phones etc. Oled will go out like Plasma
@@M00n.P00p. ah yes it can, the 98" Samsung QN90D had much narrower viewing angles than the smaller models with viewing angle layer Robinson said it was noticeable.
I have 55 inch (Philips OLED). For any bigger size I would have to rearrange my whole living room. Also my wife likes to watch Inspector Barnaby from the 90ies - the quality of older series will be unwatchable on >65 inch.
It's nice to see the differences between high end and low end being redefined. The LG b4 price is in the right direction but they should never have let Samsung's qoled slide ahead as a brighter more colorful gaming oled. People all but begged lg to have qoled options.
No . Ppl mistake Tiers . Like Ford’s high End is Lincoln. Ford is seen low end . Hisense is know for their HIGH END -- ULED line (Lincoln level ) but most ppl Mistake Premium Hisense (U line : Mini LED ) as -- their Cheap Ass Roku ( direct LED - in Walmart: same technology as SONY X77L… cheap made for cheap consumers ) . I just bought $3800 85” Hisense UX look completely identical to Bravia9 n even bit better !!!😮😮 So yeah their U8 U7 U9 UX r like -- AUDI , LINCON , INFINITY, LEXUS level …. Often mistaken as FORD , Toyota , Nisan , VW.
Are there any rurmors about 2025 u8n. Will it have a good upgrade like 2024 was over 2023 model or will it br almost the same with minor upgrade om dimming zones and nits?
Why not keep old oleds for longer and sell as buget variants? They take them off so darn quickly. Couldn't they be able to sell alot of say, LG C2 as of now for a good amount of volume???
Hisense TCL will do good as tier 2 market as soon they try to charge premium to replace premium brands it would be hard sell Vizio was same way and still same tier 2 after more than decade, Sony and Panasonic tackled Samsung and LG being go even more premium they don’t come down to tier2 level point. Competition good for consumers. Hisense and TCl have some great products not sure they have long lasting quality and premium processing yet
❤ I made Same mistake initially that thinking High end ULED Hisense End Sense as Low end plastic Roku (made to be cheap on purpose for That market ) ! 32” Roku --- 8.9 lb 🪽 50” Roku--- 19 lb 🪿 70” Roku ---45 lb 🪿🪿 55” ULED--- 55 lb (Google OS ) 🪵 65 U8 ---- 75 lb 🗿 75” U8 ---- 95 lb 🗿🗿 85” UX --- 180 lb 🗿🗿🗿🦧 ☝🏼 -- $4000 I just bought this Most ppl tried Toyota Prius electrical , hate it n using that berate Tesla . In fact they have never seen one or be in any :) Direct LED . Same tech as SONY X77L , X80K , Samsun UN6000, UN7000 - cheap. Those -- direct LED (NO local dimmmjng ) made to be cheap ! LED lights at back of TV 100 % ON at ALL time -- prone to damage n breakage , thru over heating . High END QLED / Mini LED -- Full Aray local dimmmjng . The LED is only own split second ! They last super long ! My U8G 2021 model 10 hr a day always on just don’t die lol . Survived big move too .
I just checked: I could buy a 77" C41 Oled for ~2100€, or a 75" U8NQ for €1800, so at least in estonia the decision is easy: oled every time. U8NQ however is €1400 at 75%, which makes it a much more difficult upsell. Considering that the oled is definitely better, I think they will always have a place in the market - they will just be a more niche product as time goes on and LCD-s get better and better.
But how close is a hisense u8n from an oled? Honest question. Because im an oled guy and u8n is a tv that really calls my attention because of price/size. But i havent got one afraid the picture is not even close. But is it?
I gave TCL a chance with the qm851g but the processing, motion and color are trash compared to LG and Sony. I will continue to pay more for the premium brands until the cheapy brands catch up -- if they ever do.
I actually would have bought the MLA OLED instead of the S95B back then because I had money to burn at that specific period. I would have moved from Samsung back to LG. They dropped the ball
Too little too late for all of the big 3 for me. I decided my money was better spent on a 98” UX. Being delivered and installed this weekend. 90% of OLED picture quality, much bigger size, fraction of the cost. No brainer for me
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Hahahahahaha!!!! GOOD! I've never been an LG fan, and I couldn't care LESS about their TVs. I prefer any of the other big brands, whether it's TCL, Hisense, Samsung, or even Soyny. 😄
Samsung is bad for motion, upscaling and sports in general. Probably some people searching something else.
Tcl and hisense smart. They doing what these other brands refuse to do. Stop over charging for these tv. Giving people more for their money
They have more desperate people that would work for less making operation cost lower so they can offer the TVs at a lower price.
Simple as that.
They're killing it in all segments & price ranges. LG & Samsung tv's are trash at the entry level and mid tier. It's here where Hisense and TCL dominate. They've also taken over the large screen segment.
On one side you have companies who do all the innovating but also overcharge and then the otherside is a bunch of IP stealing slave labor using companies who do not innovate but charge prices closer to what they should. Pick your poison.
@AX5Terminator imagine when more automaton is implemented but by then everything will be so cheap, nobody would own anything and be happy about. Just subscription fee
Not adding the MLA to their C-Series isn't helping LG. Dropping prices alone won't be enough. They need to add MLA to the C-Series to compete with QD-OLED at the midrange.
What is MLA?
Micro lens array, a technology for more bright in oled panels@@rxonmymind8362
@@rxonmymind8362micro lens array,it boost brightness without brightening the screen pixels as with the TV's energy consumption.
@@rxonmymind8362 MIcro Lens Array
@@rxonmymind8362micro lens array. There technology to add more brightness to their top of the line G-series.
the main thing is price. You may have better technology but price must also be considered.
Japanese brands replaced American brands, South Korean brands than replaced Japanese brands and now Chinese brands will replace South Korean brands 😂
Yep! I remember that...
Next (in like 10+ yrs) *should* be Indian brands replacing Chinese brands. lol
And then after that should be African brands replacing Indian brands. Wouldn't both of these be wild to see happen?
The way things are moving today, and the problems in India with iPhone production having defects, hair and even feces embedded in them. The world may skip India and move straight to South America or Africa. The Chinese are investing massively in the continents and expanding BRICS/BRI, but without the IMF’s debt trap. Meanwhile they’re investing and betting heavily into automation and AI at home to maintain their manufacturing leadership.
@ I hear ya.
I still think LG should include MLA on the C series. I agree that immersion is a real thing but at what size does the screen become too big to fit in ones room?
I'm waiting for 130" to replace the PJ in my theatre.
Exactly. MLA with slightly worse processing than the G series. Just have the G series be the better designed, better built and better warranteed product.
In Europe you cannot go that big
Evidently, the bigger tv's are winning.
I've been waiting for an OLED over 90 inches for $10k or less for at least 7 years now. Once you go big, there's no going back. I still have a 92 inch DLP in my living room.
The peak market for OLED was during the transition to 4K which plasma tv couldn't do and at that time LCD was mediocre. Now LCD has improved greatly with QD and mini LED technology, and it continues to improve but it's already more than good enough for most buyers. With 85+ inch size becoming the new must have feature it makes the market for OLED limited to tech enthusiasts which never works out in the long run.
Not surprised. TCL and Hisense are not playing around in the TV market. 😮
I've had a 55" TCL R615 since 2018 that I still absolutely love. I got a 65" QM8 last year and it's been a phenomenal TV! I got it over the C2 because I work from home and I watch too many channels that have tickers/banners/logos. And the room where the QM8 is gets stupid bright. So the TCL was the safer option for me
Just like their EV's, solar panels, solar generators, home electronics, everything
The Chinese business model. Quantity over quality to gain market share. Then they start raising the prices once they’ve eliminated many competitors.
@@swishy4mbg China has basically eliminated the competition in solar panels and yet solar panel prices are cheaper than ever. So your statement is flat out wrong.
8:18 "eliminated burn in several years back..." Yeah that's just wrong. Burn in has not been eliminated for any OLED panels.
@@GoranTosev8989 I've owned my Panasonic plasma since Feb 2013 and have played many games, watched sports, news channels, and have lots of other static images on the screen over the years and luckily don't have any burn in issues either but that doesn't mean it is eliminated. For a UA-cam channel specializing in talking about TV tech, it is important to get the facts right. He specifically said the issue has been eliminated and that is utterly false.
There is no burn in with MLA tech? Next year I’m defo buying G series then
QD-OLED have higher burn in rates due to all the pixels needing to be on to produce a white background. WOLED doesn't suffer burn in nearly as much since they only need to turn on the white LED for white backgrounds.
@@ZeitGeist_TVNone of what you said is true.
@@theripper121 People have done test to prove exactly that especially when the OLED is used as a monitor or with images that produce white background or white static images within a logo. Rtings has shown QDOLED burn in rates are higher then woled for the very reason I expand as well. Look up Samsung S90D burn in and you'll see for yourself a set that just came out in 2024 is already having issues. Of course it will vary from user to user but burn in is still a problem you can encounter. I forgot the other site that did the burn in test for OLED panels but look it up yourself.
The problem with a lot of consumer electronics is that they price themselves out of reach for most people. When you can get a much better looking tv at larger size for the same price people are going to pick the Hisense and TCL's. I don't really trust the Chinese brands reliability but I don't blame people for rolling the dice on them.
That and the CCP ties are always a concern. I might be over reacting, but the fact a government is closely tied to or in a lot of cases owns these companies rubs me the wrong way. All companies do data collection, but I'm always concened if the CCP is going to use it in a more nefarious way beyond just trying to sell me junk.
That and.. Wages in China are significantly lower, which reduces labor costs. Additionally, these companies receive government support, which are the main reasons their products are cheaper
@@AleX-techlab The cost a product can be sold at is based on many factors, such as R&D budget which is the biggest factor, companies can spend billions! Then there is wages, advertising budget, etc....
Chinese companies making things so cheap has me thinking they mustn't spend much on anything, that means cutting costs on R&D, peoples wages (working for a bowl of rice and lots of people throwing themselves out of a window because of the hours they have to work for almost nothing!), parts, worse support, little to no advertising plus and this is another big one, the chinese government subsidises the TVs costs.......
How can first world nations compete when shitty countries do this kind of terrible behaviour? If you want to support a dictatorship and shitty wages with shitty working conditions then buy cheap, if you want to support good wages and conditions then pay a little more, you will get a better product too!
@@barryjones2366 That's what I'm trying to say, just using less words.. 😉
@@AleX-techlab yeah but I just wanted to add a bit more nuance to the discussion, seems to be lacking a bit. There is also the amount of units you can make effects the unit price and predicted sales, like if you are making them in volume for a smaller profit margin or a small amount so you need to raise prices. There are so many things to consider when running a business.
I bought a Hisense 65" U8N, and it's been fantastic. This is coming from an LG OLED. The black level is very close to OLED, but gets oh so much brighter. Using the set just for movie/video playback. Using the OLED for gaming as the response time is much faster.
The release of microLED is growing in need as OLED is close to maxing out on tech.
Deciding between the LG B4 77 and Hisense U8N 75. Only concern is the viewing angle bc my living room is a good size so not everyone will have a direct view. Is the Hisense angle THAT much worse?
@vrgrz123 sir B4 has no brightness, its good in a light controlled room for SDR content, but a poor HDR TV.
OLED has superior viewing angles though...
@@TheKwod Yall thinking HDR is all about brightness only just make me laugh… you guys who say this have zero understanding of what HDR really is. The proof is in your ignorant comments, with no factual basis to your claims.
“No brightness”… what a moronic statement as well. Like what world are you living in lol. The b4 beats many LCD’s, obviously not all, but many, in brightness. It’s like we forget what is actually going on, and what luminance measurements actually mean in terms of RWC. OLED beats almost all LCDs in pure objective PQ and contrast modulation. You don’t need 1000 nits full field to have an enjoyable viewing experience. Anyone watching serious content in a light filled room, is moronic.
I also can’t wait for all these eye issues about to be popping up. You’ll see what I mean, in due time.
“Poor HDR TV….” Tell that to the colorists out there mastering on LG OLEDs. Like me, they’ll sculf at that ludicrously.
@@ye-ROC Brightness is part and parcel of HDR, of course the 100% brightness on a B4 is only 145nits vs 500-800 on "cheaper" mini led.
OLED also have to contend with aggressive ABL, especially on larger sizes.
Me, id avoid the lower end OLEDs, especially when DV is heading towards 4000/10000nits.
If someone wants to buy a 55/65in B4 mainly for SDR content, that would be okay unless the room was very bright.
You're just one of these weird OLED snobs who stupidly thinks OLEDS have no issues and acts like the low end OLEDs are as good as a QD OLED.
@vrgrz123 OLEDs will always beat LCD on viewing angle. That being said, I find the viewing angle on the U8N definitely acceptable, unless you are on extreme angle.
Its not the technology they need to improve, it their asking prices 💯👎👎👎
The cost a product can be sold at is based on many factors, such as R&D budget which is the biggest factor, companies can spend billions! Then there is wages, advertising budget, etc....
Chinese companies making things so cheap has me thinking they mustn't spend much on anything, that means cutting costs on R&D, peoples wages (working for a bowl of rice and lots of people throwing themselves out of a window because of the hours they have to work for almost nothing!), parts, worse support, little to no advertising plus and this is another big one, the chinese government subsidises the TVs costs.......
How can first world nations compete when shitty countries do this kind of terrible behaviour? If you want to support a dictatorship and shitty wages with shitty working conditions then buy cheap, if you want to support good wages and conditions then pay a little more, you will get a better product too!
Still rocking a 77 inch C1 and couldn’t be happier. Haven’t seen anything yet that’s blown my socks off to replace it with. Gonna be a sad day when it gives out. Honestly I’ll probably try to find a used one to buy.
Don’t ever let anyone take the joy you’ve experienced with your OLED away. They’ll try and do that, believe me. If you’re like me, and know what you like, and enjoy what you got with a LG OLED, just keep rolling.
Even with QD-OLED and the benefits it has, and some disadvantages, I still see little reason til that tech matures. I personally don’t trust Samsung as far as I can throw a stick. No tv is perfect anyways… NONE! I also have found no real reason to upgrade from my C2. I am a freaking display geek too. I live this shit. I know what’s out there, and what they’re capable of.
Tnh, I already have severe eye strain as it is, from what many laymen’s would call a “dim” tv. By no means is the C2 I have “dim”. When my eyes feel like they’re bleeding, even just watching SDR content at normal SDR luminance levels, I know more would not equate to better”. I know this for a fact…..considering I also own 2000nit QLEDs. It’s all I owned before OLED. IMO, flat out luminance is overrated and possibly not the best for our health. The luminance needs to make sense, if you get me….
I know the whole argument that our eyes see way higher luminance levels on a daily basis…. But it’s also not artificially generated light, SPD/ waveforms, that use additive color to produce color. In my mind, those two aren’t the same, and there is a difference between a tv producing light artificially, and real sunlight and color. Also, it’s not advised to go out and look at the sun, which we often do when inspecting our specular highlights. When is that going to become actually dangerous lol? Who knows I guess 🤷
Hopefully it gets some dead pixels before the warranty expires
@@ye-ROC I just got a G3 instead of s90d after LG confirmed to me that Burn in is covered. It feels like a legit trade of. Imaging buying a $2000 tv and it gets burned after 4 years. Then one have actually paid $500/year for a tv that now is damaged :| but yeah, maybe the qdled is nicer than wloead but as long as i dont have the two tv:s next to each other, i prob wont think about it.
Good! Maybe Samsung will finally decide to reduce prices on their ridiculously overpriced TV's! 👍
It's not that.
Wages in China are significantly lower, which reduces labor costs. Additionally, these companies receive government support, which is the main reason their products are cheaper.
@@AleX-techlab As a consumer, the cost of a TV is important to me. Of course, the cheaper and the larger the diagonal.
What makes you think they are over charging? The cost a product can be sold at is based on many factors, such as R&D budget which is the biggest factor, companies can spend billions! Then there is wages, advertising budget, etc....
Chinese companies making things so cheap has me thinking they mustn't spend much on anything, that means cutting costs on R&D, peoples wages (working for a bowl of rice and lots of people throwing themselves out of a window because of the hours they have to work for almost nothing!), parts, worse support, little to no advertising plus and this is another big one, the chinese government subsidises the TVs costs.......
How can first world nations compete when shitty countries do this kind of terrible behaviour? If you want to support a dictatorship and shitty wages with shitty working conditions then buy cheap, if you want to support good wages and conditions then pay a little more, you will get a better product too!
@@АлексейСтрельников-ш2о What I'm trying to say with that is people are underpaid.
@@AleX-techlabThe Chinese are doing what LG and Samsung themselves did in the late 2000s until 2015, they sold complete TVs that were much cheaper than the Japanese ones, why do you think Samsung surpassed Sony?
Wow Imagine that. People are tired of getting ripped off and want a more affordable reasonably priced option Who would have thought.
What makes you think people are getting ripped off? The cost a product can be sold at is based on many factors, such as R&D budget which is the biggest factor, companies can spend billions! Then there is wages, advertising budget, etc....
Chinese companies making things so cheap has me thinking they mustn't spend much on anything, that means cutting costs on R&D, peoples wages (working for a bowl of rice and lots of people throwing themselves out of a window because of the hours they have to work for almost nothing!), parts, worse support, little to no advertising plus and this is another big one, the chinese government subsidises the TVs costs.......
How can first world nations compete when shitty countries do this kind of terrible behaviour? If you want to support a dictatorship and shitty wages with shitty working conditions then buy cheap, if you want to support good wages and conditions then pay a little more, you will get a better product too!
@@barryjones2366lg has been ripping people off for years
@@barryjones2366 Well if you can take 50-90% off and still make a profit that would be a good indicator that you are ripping people off...And that is basically what most TV manufacturers are doing.
You think the other TV brands don't make their stuff in countries with cheaper labor markets including China? They are using the same factories and the same workers. Some of them are even using the same panels and calling them premium. If you want to pay 3x the price for basically the same product then be my guest but don't try and argue that paying more somehow is morally superior. Miss me with that shit.
It's not that for me. I don't care about the price at all. Samsung's operating systems run like trash. My 100 inch Hisense which is half the price run so much better. I hit the menu button and the menu actually pops up. The Samsung takes 15 seconds to even start now
@@namamsieie this has nothing to do with Samsung lol
I am a Sony guy, and Panasonic before that. I just bought my first TCL QM7 75 inch and I am very impressed so far. Gaming on this thing is incredible! Best $900 I ever spent.
Sony make a handful of Ferrari priced TV's that are certainly good, but most of their range is overpriced and under engineered.
The thing is people are getting more for their money they will lean on it.
@@TheKwod They are certainly good but is it worth paying 2x, 3x when the gap is getting closed year after year.
@nirajshrestha5621 unless very wealthy, id say no.
@@nirajshrestha5621Facts the value is amazing and this is coming from an LG G4 owner.
They need to bring the cost of OLED down
especially when the life span of oled is so small, oh my gosh. Theyre too greedy, looking at 900% profit margin as not satisfactory enough
I got the 98" TCL micro QLC for $1700. It went into a very bright room so OLED was not an option. I thought I might be disappointed with the performance but it is fine so long as you are not looking next to each other.
what
@ I got the qm7 98" for 1700. I had been looking at a small oled. I was worried the performance would be bad, but it looks fine unless you look at an oled next to it like at the store.
My gut says that even if LG had announced MLA in 2021, QD OLED would have erased the hype on MLA in 2022. I was actually shocked that there was ANY response from LG to QD OLED at all! I feel like LG's release of MLA the same year as QD OLED kept them alive, especially since the G4 keeps winning everyone's Best TV pick.
Dont believe the influencers..qd oled is jus better
I bought a 98 tcl but if lg had offered the 83 g4 for say 3k I would have bought it but refuse to pay what they are going for.
65 LG G4 or 85 TCL 8 series? I'll choose TCL
98 TCL Q8M for 2500€ is great
Have you ever addressed how effed up the 83 OLED panels are? Mine has trash vertical bars in the grey- Maybe that is why LG is dropping share.
mine as well,but after 200-300 hours of ues it's much much better now very unnoticeable
@@glaivecn Interesting, I'm glad you had some improvement, mine has gotten worse over time
I bought a Samsung 65 inch QN90D 3 months ago, i upgraded from a 46 inch Samsung LED used 11 years.
Now I feel should have gone for Hisense 85 inch.
Size matters.
Forget the picture quality, I don't find any difference.
Samsung neo qled showed signs of screen issue.
TCL and Hisense are just simply giving people more TV for less money! They are outperforming much more expensive sets from the big 3, and processing is getting better also. Only a matter of time before the big 3 will have to come in at a better price to compete.
They're not outperforming they're only larger for cheaper that's it
@AndrewB23 even at the smaller sizes, they are way cheaper for 90% of the performance of the big 3, many times outperforming them. It's good to have competition.
@@johnlegg6661 Dont drink the payed influencers Kool Aid. The TCL and Hisense TVs made major leaps in quality but they are still clearly inferior products. The buildquality on Hisense and TCL TVs is a joke and their rate of failure is very high. No matter how many dimming zones they put into their TVs, they cant manage the backlight control algorithm and never will.
They don't compare in picture quality to what OLEDs put out
@MAYNE318 this was about Hisense and TCL taking over market share and why, not about OLED vs LCD...
It's called competition. If they want to sell these, then they need to lower the prices.
You can buy 98inch TVs now. That was unheard of a few years ago. The TV market is going to get interesting.
I worked at this place... One day, all kinds of people were talking about how their LG TV's, appliances broke just after warranty. EXTREMELY quickly after warranty. If fact, so many people were saying that.... convinced me never to buy an LG product at all. Ask around at your work. What I heard was crazy !!
Wait until the Tariff's come out on all Chinese made products and the price really will rise.
This. TCL and Hisense could get tariffs of up to 200%, if Trump decides to put China on a leash.
That's why I bought TCL last week. It's going to get ugly in 2025!
Or wait until they destroy the competititon and there won't be alternatives
naaa, 3 scenarios, most likely the Chinese will give in to our demands, they will drop their prices even more or manufacturing will go out of china to Vietnam or US.
Which the purpose is to actually bring more jobs back state side while also being used as a plea bargaining deal! Just look at Trudo literally folding in front of Trump like that Beta he's always has been!😂😂😂
LG only went down 4 points and Samsung went down 13 points. I think Samsung has more to worry about it seems
Wait until the Chinese Tariff kicks in...
@ tech companies will crater cause nobody can afford it
you are very right, samsung should be more afraid, going down 13 points, and samsung source their LCD or LED Display from TCL CSOT, Next year samsung will be down 19 points.
This is the biggest issue for other brands in general: Wages in China are significantly lower, which reduces labor costs. Additionally, these companies receive government support, which is the main reason their products are cheaper.
Tariffs on Chinese products is the way to go.
@@AleX-techlabYou really know nothing don't you?
I love my Hisense U76 100inch tv I got during Black Friday! Blacks are close or in the ballpark of OLED, and this is just full-array not the mini-led version.
The value of it is so good I feel like I stole something.
I really hope Sony & Panasonic don’t drag their feet on WHVA panels. It’s the missing ingredient from their MiniLEDs being ideal IMHO.
TCL is the one manufacturing it. They’re gonna have to pay up if they want the privilege
@ Sony already buys the majority of their LCD panels from TCL, so it’s not a huge leap for them to adopt the WHVA panels in their TVs. It’s just a matter of overcoming their slower & more conservative approach to new tech.
@@highdefnews Not a leap, no but WHVA is a new technology developed solely by TCL. It’ll likely be pretty pricey.
@@itwasntoptional5768 It might be, but I doubt it’s any more expensive than an OLED panel, which Sony & Panasonic already buy. We’ll get an idea of price when we see which TCL & Samsung models include it.
This is great news. SONY and LG need to wake the hell up and actually give the consumers what they want and at an affordable price. Sony especially has gotten way to cocky thinking they won’t lose sales to TCL or Hisense. People are wising up. Charging what they do for say a Bravia 9 is highway robbery. Congrats to TCL for stepping up. At this rate they’ll leave Sony and LG in the dust within 2 years.
Sony is done bro..theres no way back for them
I just bought a Hisense U9N since it dropped to only $2K and couldn't be happier with all the features it offers along with amazing viewing angles.
Purchased the Hisense 65" U8N. Is it as amazing as the TV's 2-3x as expensive? Yeah, it kind of is. I don't see any reason to buy anything expensive anymore when the base line is so good. It's nearly perfect. Only thing I'd upgrade for is if LG brings back passive 3D. That's worth a ton alone but I'm not holding my breath for manufacturers to get back into the world. But that's what I'd say they could do, bring back what was amazing, 4k passive 3D.
I have a 55-inch Samsung S90C OLED. I've had it for over a year now with no problems or burn-in. I love it. ☺️
Same. It’s been a fantastic set. Unlike my 2016 LG C6 I don’t connect it to the internet and only use the Apple TV 4K for streaming. Keeps Samsung from updating the firmware and no ads.
I just got a TCL QLED Love it especially for gaming 👍
Give me an OLED at 85"-90" (not 83") with MLA at a reasonable price and I'll buy it.
It's too expensive to make
My 83 OLED is complete garbage- not enough information is officially out there with how bad those 83 panels are.
Really? Never heard about that. My 77” has been great
@@ShotgunSandwichENT The 77 has a different panel- It doesn't have the uniformity issue - all 83 OLEDTVs use the same panel going back years and they all have this problem - LG calls it the moire effect and won't fix it under warranty which is compete BS - the panel just sucks
@@jimmneedlereally? Which one do you have? Asking so I can avoid it.
Just bought a 75 inch Hisense U7N for an awesome price of $897 off Amazon 😎 I saw they also have a U8 65" model on there for the same price. They sell fast but I ordered mine on a sunday and had by 8am on Tuesday! Impressive for a freight shipped item!
Any tips or tricks for getting the best setup on the U7N would be much appreciated 😊
I bought my 50 "Panny Plasma over a decade ago and I am still very happy with it
So many got burned with oled qd or w with first gen panels, when renewing now they can go bigger and more reliable with TCL
I have replaced my Panasonic & Samsung TVs with TCL and Vizio. Image quality and reliability has been great for me for the dirt cheap price.
Vizio is hot garbage 🤮 plus Walmart bought them out which will mean even worse quality
@DRDRE-cm7qo I have only had two Vizio's. One from a decade ago and one from a year or two ago. I never had any problems
LG got fat and sassy while they were dominating the oled market for almost a decade ... untill, Samsung slapped them a bit of sense with the S95B, that came with brighter, more colorful QD-oled panels. Sadly, as consumers, LG did not respond the way we expected or wanted. Now they are in trouble.
Samsung also.. did you watch the video?????
Talk about completely missing the message. Samsung is affected even more than LG.
Fanboy/hate post
In early 2023 I bought a 55 inch Hisense 4k Smart TV from Costco. After 6 months of owning started acting up. . I'll be watching TV and on it's own would go back to the home screen. Found out main board defective from manufacturer.
Poor Sony, oh how the mighty have fallen.....I would be surprised if Sony goes outta the TV business in the next 5 years because their share of the market is so tiny now...plus, their TVs cost too much and their quality and reliability of their TVs are very questionable now.
price sucks
I don’t call them Poor. They drain 😮consumer $Billions over d years when they did NOT
Have best TV since early 2000s.
Our Business professor in Canada 🇨🇦 where Rtings at . Spent 2 hrs telling ppl that SONY’s 90%!revenue r Entry / mid range . Since they do NOT have highest technology, they will PAY 💰 more to USE Compitition patterns (Sharp / Samsung / LG …. ) to up their Flagship prestige , n 2-3X price of mid range - Entry 😮customers who r struggling with 😮finance ! Because it is --- MUCH Cheaper to produce 200000 of same TV even sell at half price off flagship ! Than producing 8000 units of flagship (u can not charge flagship 10X price ! So they yearly lose money 💰 from producing flagship ) flagship-- made by Other brands Pattern that SONY doesn’t have 😮 is called UP Sell truck in Sales / Marketing . N still cheaper than casting Tv commercials . Their goal is how to juice 🧃 As MUCH money 💰 on low budget consumers as they can to make the money back from Flagship n pay for the Coat of Pattern they borrow from competition making flagship .
N in 3 yr , ppl want upgrade ,,, they r pulled by d urge from Futurr Flagship ! Rinse n repeat ! 😮
Hisense / TCL has high Integrity n Hornor !
That -- Business lecture 2 hrs reallly crush my spine . It hurt !
Prices are tough but my Sony Bravia XR A90 has been great. No questionable reliability there. Consumer Reports actually rates Sony, LG and Samsung at the top of the charts for reliability. That info is current.
Too expensive not worth it
Sony is simply overpriced..they dont win at any price point
Just bought the Hisense 100” and it is awesome! Like having your own movie theater.
My older LED Visio TV was amazing, watching it straight on. Off angle viewing was AWFUL! Like it started washing out, sitting at the ends of the couch, that was right in front of it lol.
If this pans out I am wondering what effect it might haveo n Apples plan to bring out a TV. I just don't see that there is a market espe4cially with the move to larger screen sizs comes ot pass in the premium market.
Decent customer experience w LG (Canada). Sent 400$ towards my C3 OLED after my 6 year old B7 got burn in. For gaming room bought a qm7, arrived defective. Returned and went with Bravia 7. Not ruling out TCL though for next tv.
Samsungs refusal on adopting Dolby Vision will continue to hurt em
Nope, actually we all samsung fans love it. We can keep the hdr10+ for us.😂 I like that hdr10+ better than dolby vision. Want samsung and other manufacturers to lower the price of tvs tell dolby vision to make it a free format. Amazon just started charging people 2.99 extra a month if you want to watch dolby vision content😂 go figure. Dolby charges amazon and amazon charges us. All content now in HDR10+ from amazon is free of charge for me no extra 2.99
@ Other manufacturers are able to lower their price and offer Dolby Vision is the main reason why their losing market share 😂. Not implementing a feature and still having premium prices tv’s than the competition that does really defeats your argument
Lol dv doesnt look better bro
Bought u7n black Friday 75 inch omg iam so happy it's beautiful under 800 with 5 year warranty for 200 😊😊😊😊
I love my 65" LG B7A OLED but for 5Kish or less I am looking at and seriously considering the Hisense 100"
Thanks for the video. Tv names are very confusing. My son broke my lg c1 so now I'm in the market for a new one. Thanks to you I now know that the LG G4 is the good one so that's the one I'll get 😁. Thankyou
All I wanna know is
What the heck is taking TCL so long to enter the OLED market already
We need even cheaper prices on those things
He just said there’s a bigger profit margin so they make more money on led.
TCL actually is manufacturing Oled panels for many of Chinese phones. I guess right now they are not much interested in high end segments like Oled until their Oled tech matures enough to produce products of insane performance/price competition like they always does.
The Best Buy all near me in Seattle don't even display the Q7 QN7 or QM7, which are probably the best value/performance sets in the market. Are they worried it will eat into the higher price Korean sets once people see how good they are for the price? I myself have S90C and QN90C, and love it but next round of buying TVs I will be eyeing the Chinese brands. I think they have already caught up to LG and Samsung.
LG is not a huge company. Not in comparison to the others. They certainly don't have Microsoft or Samsung money. They have far less overall to spend on RnD. I think both Samsung and LGs days at the top of the TV heap will be over. I think that's inevitable. The Chinese brands like TCL, Hisense, Xiaomi etc....are doing to them now what they did to the Japanese brands 15 plus years ago. And none of it is helped by slipping quality standards. Especially in Samsung's case.
LG is a huge company dude
Which is why they've had a literally monopoly on OLED do to the fact they had nothing else. Their LCD tvs are practically useless especially when compared to TCL and Hisense! I was predicting this would of eventually happen to the Korean brands. Also both TCL and Hisense is going to producing inkjet printed OLED tvs . Once that happens it's game over for both Samsung and LG OLEDs?
LG is is def a huge company lol. Just that Samsung and Sony are bigger
@@walidhannaoui1802 Are you sure about Sony? LG is probably bigger now that Sony is just a shell of its former self. Sony without Playstation is a very niche brand.
Since when is a company with 222,000 employees and revenue of $62 billion per year _not_ small?
wtf, dude
If LG can cut prices by 25 to 30%, that will make their flagship TV's accessible to SO many more people, not to mention will make previous year flagships sell like hotcakes on sale during clearance in the midrange market before the release of the following year's flagships. Once the C to G range level TVs are in tons of people's houses, wowing guests and getting tons of word of mouth, LG will be top dog again. The cost reduction is the best move they could make right now in the bang-for-buck environment where Hisense and TCL are having a field day. This year I bought a Hisense for myself and a TCL for my parents. LG definitely would have been on my radar had they reached this point sooner
Ridiculous prices? Try paying 2.2k for new 65"Panasonic Oled Z85! And that was the boxing day sale price, normally 4.2k, here in New Zealand!🤬
I think it's all the early adopters are now going back to cheap LCDs. After spending 3k on 65" OLED and its now trash with screen burn and color distortion. Then price, you can get 77" for 600 usd.
I just see TCL as eye burners.
I will not sacrifice size for picture quality. All hail LG
you have not been watching contents properly year after year the gap is getting lesser and lesser.
I bought a TCL 98 Q8 for I think it was $3500 with free install new. There was no competition with good blacks.
Hopefully OLED won't go the way of plasma. How many years was the defunct Pioneer Kuro better than anything new? It reminds me of my 30 year old Gen 1 Lightning truck. Even at that age and 90K miles there is no new truck at any price that will run as trouble-free and is as easy to fix. It's a half million mile truck. What's new that won't have major failures before 200K? Progress.
I still have an old Panasonic plasma that still looks amazing. I replaced it in my family room with a new, calibrated LG OLED. And my wife made me bring back the plasma.
My LG CX has really good picture quality and I still love the way it looks (both picture and the TV set itself), but the top pixels have started dying (looks like blobs of dead pixels). I started researching this thing and I found out this is a widespread problem affecting all the lg oled tv's even newer ones C2's and C3's. Lg is quiet about this and most often the affected tv's are out of warranty and the costs of replacing the panel is absurd . Because of this when it came for a new tv, I avoided them and bought a TCL qm7. Picture quality is not as good but close enough (I would consider 90% of the oled quality) but the price difference is substantial. So I was put between choosing a expensive Lg oled which will probably fail again and a close enough tcl but at half the price with 5 year warranty. I chose to keep more money in my pocket.
LE: The Lg is 3 years old
Same here bro. My CX is having blobs of black on top and bottom. Only matter of time it dies. Planning to go for hisense qled next for gaming, as mini LEDs are good enough.
Qm7 is not 90% bro.
I have a 73" A80j, I love my Oled but I want my next tv to be 85 (83) - 100", and Oled can't do that affordably yet, and MiniLEd and QD tech has got good enough I think I'll be satisfied enough
How long do they last? Still have several Sony tvs from 1995-2009 that all still work.
These Chinese TVs are cheap and fully loaded with features. However , based on my experience they are not durable. Quality control is lacking. I have a Samsung Led 40 inch for over 9 years going which I now put in my guest room.
That Max OLED sounds like a really good thing. Hopefully it can become reality and come to TVs. Maybe perfectly in time for my next upgrade or it being out for a 1-2 years so it can mature. I am sticking with my B9 85" at least 5 years. I love it. But of course I would love an OLED that actually could be like Max OLED. More efficient, maybe burn-in will be even more a thing of the past and finally ASBL being minimized or almost gone. Then we're really talking.
Hey you forgot to put the lenses in those frames that you're wearing
I own a s90c . My main grip ? Fit to screen should be avail in the off position while gaming
I am ALL IN on the new 85” TCL QM951 with over 10k dimming zones in 2025!! 🎉. If not I’ll wait for the QM8 85” to come down to replace my 65” Samsung QN90C 🎉
Question: Since Blue PhOLED is not where it needs to be, could LG just go the Apple route and do double OLED panels (read stacked) to increase the longevity of the TVs while also being able to increase brightness without having to over drive pixels to get crazy brightness. I don't really follow the Apple hype, but If I am not mistaken, this is what they are doing on their new high end monitors/panels to increase nits while ensuring longevity of their OLEDs. I would not be surprised if LG is the one providing this tech to Apple.
LG should bring MLA to 48"/42", maybe even to smaller sizes. They would reign supreme in that genre though admittedly with lower margins.
Yeah I'm not sure when people stopped by 20- 30 inch Tvs but not everyone wants a 55 inch tv in their bedroom.
Some of us want a high quality, small tv. I _can_ fit a 50 inch tv in a bedroom but I'd rather have more space.
There are already 27 inch MLA panels.
WOLED is dated . Hisense U8N / Sony Bravi9, TCL Qm851 all have ---- wait for this 3 X or more of color Densiry 🔮🔮🧿🧿🪲🪲🌹🌹🌺🌺
of G3 G4 🧩🧩🍡🍬🍉🍉 🌸🌸🥗🥗🏞️🏞️🏖️🏖️🏔️🏔️most Normal pics 99% images r not even black . The G3 G4 will be more of --2D but by brain 🧠 placebo seen as more 3D .
@@Yoga_Tv_buying not for PC gaming. the TCL you wrote can't have 4:4:4 Chroma at Game Mode where you need it for low response time. this alone is a no-buy.
I got a tcl over the lg. The price of the same size was the deciding factor. I'm happy to pa a little more for a better tv but not over double the price.
We all had W-oled dead, after QD oled came out, then the introduced MLA and resurrected W Oled! I think they will come up with something, that takes it to the next level.
Did I mess up by getting the LG G4? I don’t want an obsolete TV. The Bravia nine was about $1000 Canadian cheaper than it at the same 77 inch size range. But I wanted OLED. But it looks like they are going to way of plasma. I don’t even know anymore. This is depressing
Don't worry about it the G4 was voted King of TVs in the TV blind shootout this year! It will be plenty good for the next 10+ years or so. 😀Any owner of an OLED can be perfectly happy with their choice! There are much more positives than negatives compared to all other display types.
OLED has the best viewing angles, picture sharpness/clarity, no blooming, bright, consistently high contrast, colours are some of the best you can get with QDs, pixel response times.
Negatives are higher price, is more susceptible to burn-in, can't get as bright for the brightest highlights and scenes but those are pretty rare cases, for almost all scenes OLED will be brighter with more contrast.
LCD positives are it's cheaper normally, it gets brighter but only for the brightest highlights and scenes which are rare, near black handling can be better but only on a Sony.
Negatives are many.....slower pixel response times, worse game mode local dimming performance, worse viewing angles (can be very narrow), worse picture sharpness/clarity, blooming, hazy scenes sometimes......
OLED is clearly the best tech out there!
😂😂😂😂 bro I have a g1 that still beats mini led I wouldn't even bother upgrading for the next 7 years if it wasn't for the size
if the g4 was cheaper I'd upgrade to it
I still think mini led is 3 years away from matching oled in all areas
@@e4superfly let’s see I might have to do mini led next time. I feel sad everytime i see my g4 not because I hate it but because I might be one of the last OLED TVs
@@matttm3 You must be trolling right? lol
@@giantpizzasunset2534 no I genuinely like my OLED a lot but this video and a few other reviews of how many LED is just so good and then shrinking sales are all making me worried about the future of it and I don’t wanna get used to technology that I love so much and then never be able to have something so good again
Just went from the TCL 6 series (2018) to the Samsung S90D.
While the S90D is insanely amazing, that TCL still keeps up with most mid level TV's I've seen in stores recently (yes, I know they're in demo mode)
Check out plasmatvforgaming for s90d.really gud stuff
Hi. Any video coming up on the Hisense A85N OLED? I want to buy a G4 in the next 4 months but now i have seen the A85N on the market and am curious
No . I’ll only buy mini LED for the foreseeable future because I leave my tv on all the time . Maybe the next new technology . Love my 85” QM851 . Thank you FOMO ❤🎉
Great! I also love my TCL 98 inch QM8 51G.
98 wouldn’t fit . I’m in a 12 X14 room . Had to move out of my big house to care for my aunt . But . Hopefully if I out live my aunt I’ll be able to buy another house and go bigger but I love my aunt and sacrifices must be made . I hope you enjoy it . Please let us know how it works for you .👍❤️🎉
@@samuelreynolds6937 isn’t FOMo great
I don't think there will be any significant tech jump for 2025 tv's except for maybe TCL RGB OLED 4k/8k TV releasing at the end of 2025.
WHVA panels only improve wide angle viewing but viewing it from the front won't be any significant difference. I think the most new stuff that will come out in 2025 will be higher refresh rate tv's that are 150-175hz. I hardly noticed the difference between 120hz vs 144hz so I doubt it will be really noticeable for 144hz vs 175hz. The viewing experience for new QDOLED , LED tv's, OLED in 2025 likely will be an equal to minor improvement over the 2024 models, at least for 55" TV's , usually 65" models look more different from each other compared to the previous model range. This was evident on the Hisense U8K vs U8N 65" model, it looked equal to minor to significantly better depending on the scene/game being played etc
2026 should be a big year for TV's, Max OLED from Samsung, TCL RGB OLED and possibly NanoLED and smaller MicroLED TV's that are 55-65"
It's all about pricing. If they want to regain market share, lower prices
I’m fairly certain LG make panels for lots of other brands inc Hisense not to mention screens for phones so I doubt the market share is an issue - i personally own some high end LG TVs and recently purchased the 85 inch Hisense h7 pro which was phenomenal value vrs Samsung
TCL and Hisense realize market share and mass production is everything, every doubling of production cuts manufacturing costs in half.
I bought Hisense 42 inch QLED direct lit for less than 200$ on Black Friday.
The menu look like the Sony’s with less options. Google tv is nice. It’s feels cheap but the panel is decent for everyday use. Not a gamer tv.
Most people don't watch TV very far off angle. The market demands what it wants. In 5 years other than small screens monitors phones etc. Oled will go out like Plasma
Off angle on sizes like 85", 95" or higher isn't even a thing.
@@M00n.P00p. ah yes it can, the 98" Samsung QN90D had much narrower viewing angles than the smaller models with viewing angle layer Robinson said it was noticeable.
@@barryjones2366 Agreed. If I sit too close with my 75 mini-LED, the corners are slightly dark. Distance affects viewing angle.
It doesn't hav to be very far off..slightly off center n u wll see blooming on led tvs
@@BT_01 Not on my TV I have a 98 inch qM7 the only thing I notice is that it gets more washed out Off angle I don't see any blooming
I have 55 inch (Philips OLED). For any bigger size I would have to rearrange my whole living room. Also my wife likes to watch Inspector Barnaby from the 90ies - the quality of older series will be unwatchable on >65 inch.
It's nice to see the differences between high end and low end being redefined. The LG b4 price is in the right direction but they should never have let Samsung's qoled slide ahead as a brighter more colorful gaming oled. People all but begged lg to have qoled options.
What phone do you have with an RGB OLED display? About everything uses Pentile. That wont work on a TV with the larger pixels
Is the main attraction to TCL Hisense mainly low cost? Picture quality doesn't seem to compete with others.
No . Ppl mistake Tiers . Like Ford’s high End is Lincoln. Ford is seen low end .
Hisense is know for their HIGH END -- ULED line (Lincoln level )
but most ppl Mistake Premium Hisense (U line : Mini LED ) as -- their Cheap Ass Roku ( direct LED - in Walmart: same technology as SONY X77L… cheap made for cheap consumers ) .
I just bought $3800 85” Hisense UX look completely identical to Bravia9 n even bit better !!!😮😮
So yeah their U8 U7 U9 UX r like -- AUDI , LINCON , INFINITY, LEXUS level …. Often mistaken as FORD , Toyota , Nisan , VW.
Nah, not worried lol! They just need a better pricing strategic and more features on their TV brands and we are good.
LG's panel warranty is useless. The thin fragile glass panel cracks easily and this physical damage is not covered under warranty.
Are there any rurmors about 2025 u8n. Will it have a good upgrade like 2024 was over 2023 model or will it br almost the same with minor upgrade om dimming zones and nits?
Will 8k be big for 100 inch tvs in 2027?
Why not keep old oleds for longer and sell as buget variants? They take them off so darn quickly. Couldn't they be able to sell alot of say, LG C2 as of now for a good amount of volume???
Are you sure that oled margin is lower then miniled. there is Some speciealist that producing cost of oled is lower
I just need your opinion, what do you think about the quality use after 2 years for TCL and Hisense?
Hisense TCL will do good as tier 2 market as soon they try to charge premium to replace premium brands it would be hard sell Vizio was same way and still same tier 2 after more than decade, Sony and Panasonic tackled Samsung and LG being go even more premium they don’t come down to tier2 level point. Competition good for consumers. Hisense and TCl have some great products not sure they have long lasting quality and premium processing yet
❤ I made Same mistake initially that thinking High end ULED Hisense End Sense as Low end plastic Roku (made to be cheap on purpose for That market ) !
32” Roku --- 8.9 lb 🪽
50” Roku--- 19 lb 🪿
70” Roku ---45 lb 🪿🪿
55” ULED--- 55 lb (Google OS ) 🪵
65 U8 ---- 75 lb 🗿
75” U8 ---- 95 lb 🗿🗿
85” UX --- 180 lb 🗿🗿🗿🦧
☝🏼
-- $4000 I just bought this
Most ppl tried Toyota Prius electrical , hate it n using that berate Tesla . In fact they have never seen one or be in any :)
Direct LED . Same tech as SONY X77L , X80K , Samsun UN6000, UN7000 - cheap.
Those -- direct LED (NO local dimmmjng ) made to be cheap ! LED lights at back of TV 100 % ON at ALL time -- prone to damage n breakage , thru over heating .
High END QLED / Mini LED -- Full Aray local dimmmjng . The LED is only own split second ! They last super long ! My U8G 2021 model 10 hr a day always on just don’t die lol . Survived big move too .
I just checked: I could buy a 77" C41 Oled for ~2100€, or a 75" U8NQ for €1800, so at least in estonia the decision is easy: oled every time.
U8NQ however is €1400 at 75%, which makes it a much more difficult upsell.
Considering that the oled is definitely better, I think they will always have a place in the market - they will just be a more niche product as time goes on and LCD-s get better and better.
Of course FOMO makes the video headline about LG losing market share, when Samsung’s loss was even bigger.
But how close is a hisense u8n from an oled? Honest question. Because im an oled guy and u8n is a tv that really calls my attention because of price/size. But i havent got one afraid the picture is not even close. But is it?
LG has dynamic QNED replacing the need for quantum dots.
I gave TCL a chance with the qm851g but the processing, motion and color are trash compared to LG and Sony. I will continue to pay more for the premium brands until the cheapy brands catch up -- if they ever do.
2 years unstoppable
Pathetic motion handling n upscaling
I actually would have bought the MLA OLED instead of the S95B back then because I had money to burn at that specific period. I would have moved from Samsung back to LG. They dropped the ball
Too little too late for all of the big 3 for me. I decided my money was better spent on a 98” UX. Being delivered and installed this weekend. 90% of OLED picture quality, much bigger size, fraction of the cost. No brainer for me