For as much as they paint Bernie to be a comic relief character, he's really a foil to Niko. Bernie is proof that someone was able to survive the Yugoslav war, survive Darko's ambush, and ACTUALLY start a new life, free from the cycle of violence. It's almost like he was inserted into the story to show Niko he has no excuse for not moving on.
This, he even encourages Niko to move on after he gets the news of Darko's aftermath, if we only had the option to hang out with him i would've loved to see them at some point finally close that chapter of their lives
You're right, but the circumstances are different. Bernie likely wasn't all that attached to his old identity as Florian Cravic because it was repressive and false. He couldn't truly be the person he wanted to be until he came to America, so it was much easier for him to leave the past behind and embrace something new. For Bernie, it was a fresh opportunity but for Niko it was a tremendous blow and the ruination of everything he'd strived for, so it's much harder for him to move on. Also, Niko has been immersed in violence and crime on a professional and personal level for a long time now whereas Bernie seems to have been living a fairly honest life (besides sleeping with a married man) and old habits die hard.
bernie should've been a friend to hang out with would've provided some funny commentary and hearing them talk about the past and the war would've really added some depth to both characters
Matthew Riggs Thats a good thing you brought up. Did bernie pretend to be helpless cause he TRULY wants to be another person, or did he somehow forget his killer skills ?
soldiers never forget I think he truly doesn't want to be a violent man anymore. In real life Niko, Darko and Florian would have been trained by Soviet soldiers and you can't imagine what they were put through. The men fought in the Bosnian wars so they would have seen quite a lot. War changes everyone, rarely for the better. It's why Niko is so cold and probably why Darko became a raging drug addict. Florian probably plays up his homosexuality as a form of coping, all three men have their coping mechanisms. Darko- drugs Florian- alcohol(table seen in the cutscene suggest he drinks) possibly his played up homosexuality Niko- is clearly and alcoholic too he gets absolutely shitfaced drunk on friend activities but also desperately tries to refuse alcohol when it's given, he struggles with this though as seen in the Holland play where he looks longingly at the Schnapps playboy pours for him, he finally caves at the end of the game where you meet Jimmy P in the strip club. Niko starts throwing back large glasses of Vodka without any thought.
Hahahaha I love how at 8:17 Bernie and Roman are talking about Bernies love life and Niko is just standing there in a crisis probably having flashbacks.
Is nobody going to talk about Niko’s dialogue at 20:40 is quite pure? Like he gave good advice, and on top of that, after realizing he didn’t have to tell Bernie how to live his life, he ended the conversation with “I’m your friend, and I will try to help.” What amazes the most though was he realized that he’s not usually this talkative and yet he was. And it shows just how much he cares. It’s a nice touch when it comes to this game’s writing.
I honestly think it has to do with the phenomenon of people reverting to who they were or how they acted with someone from a long time ago. Like meeting with your old highschool friend or some elder you respected. Niko got taken back to the young version of himself that was good friends with bernie but before any of the murders happened. That's just why i think he acts as surprisingly calm and supportive of him so easily and so soon. Once he confirmed that it wasnt him, he knew he had just found his only surviving friend. Darko obviously not being that to him anymore.
The line delivery at 8:26 may actually be my favorite moment in the entire game. Bernie is trying so desperately to keep up his happy, flamboyant persona even in the presence of someone from his horrible past waving a gun in his face, but the mention of Darko makes him completely drop his mask for just a brief moment, and he shows the rage and trauma that still simmers within him. It even seems like he shocks himself a bit, as though he had successfully buried his past, and had not confronted it again until that very moment. Genuinely makes me tear up every time I see it. This game's writing is a masterpiece.
7:40: " *I WOULDN'T DO THAT* " Such a great scene; you knew he was telling the truth when he matched Niko w intensity. He became old Florian REAL quick.
It's funny. Bernie came to Liberty City and changed his life let go of his past (but you can still see he thinks about it everyday and is angry). Niko is the opposite, he knows you can't just let go of your past. But rather than ignoring it like Florian he became obssesed with finding out who betrayed him. Then there's Darko, who after betraying his brothers for drugs proceeded to throw his life down the gutter so hard that he wasn't even on the radar unless the CIA tracked him down. GTAIV wasn't the wacky zany ride of San Andreas, it didn't have jetpacks or shooting down jets in an F16. But it did have the best original realistic story in video game history. Prove me wrong.
About that you right but its not real about the language roman forgotten serbian cuz he was in liberty city 10 years? And niko's mother milica is speaking english to niko on email? Really? And the reason she said cuz niko is speaking like roman now, well thats not real in gta 4 and the voice actor should be someone from serbia cuz this actor is speaking like russian accent and niko is speaking serbian with mistakes. Those things for me are not real to be honest.The game and the story are like you watching movie i really enjoyed when i played gta 4
To me, the IV series will always be the best, especially the Chinatown Wars one. Retro feeling, good story lines, great character development. Everything you would asked for in a GTA game.
Gotta give Bernie credit, he is legit and loyal. Loving of his friends as well. And nice to see Niko reciprocate that same kind of love. Bernie is okay in my book. Just like Niko, I'd go to the ends of the universe to make sure Bernie is safe and okay.
@princesslightningstrike4592I love Bernie, he is a genuinely good friend for Niko to have. Wish we could hang out with him the way we can with Roman, Little Jacob and Pack and Dwayne
It would have been cool if we could've hung out with Bernie Crane, he's an absolutely funny person, the conversations would be hilarious and we could also learn more about Niko's past.
Yeahh that's probably one of the dumbest things Rockstar did out of everyone it would of been cool to hangout with your Old War Comrade and talk about Niko's past
I love how the mission is called weekend at Florian's and when you meet him he tells you he's changed his name to Bernie I like what you did there Rockstar
I feel like they gave the character the name Bernie (which is a pretty unusual/random choice of name) just so they could do that joke with the mission name lol
Bernie is a sigma male. He came from the war and unlike coming damaged like Niko or a dengerate like Darko, he instead remade himself and let go of his past. That takes tremendous resolve.
Seeing Niko as the rough and tough masculine type it was real nice seeing him not judging Bernie on being gay. Shows Niko as a man who doesn’t care for people’s life choices as long as they’re not hurting anyone he cares for.
That and he knows what Florian is perfectly capable of, he has no right to judge him because he's earned his respect way back in the war I imagine it just depends the respect he has for Florian to see him come so far and go through so much
Exactly. He knows Bernie was once a dangerous man named Florian who could easily kill someone if he actually wanted to. The soft flamboyant attitude Bernie has is not the full story
They were friends after all The "whats happened to you??" He greets him with is funny though, almost like the response youd give your junkie friend who youd just seen for the first time in 15 years
@@youtubecensored1657 Michael said in an interview more than 10 years ago that it was pretty much a misunderstanding, he did talk some shit about rockstar but he didn't really meant it like that, the problem is rockstar herself, they do not forgive stuff like this
I dunno why but I love that little moment when Niko says "let's have... FUN!" and they hop on the boat at the same time. Idk, it feels weirdly innocent.
it would seem Bernie has fully mastered the concept of finding closure with his past and made a fresh start and a new life. i totally get wanting to leave your shitty old life behind in favor of a more calm and mundane one.
From what I've seen, Florian and Darko are the outcomes of Niko's decision: Florian/Bernie: He is Niko, who finally let go of his past and found a stable and peaceful life. He let go of his revenge, realizing that it is not the way to gain for your friends killed by another one. Darko: He is Niko, who never let the past go and let himself be consumed by revenge after the death of his friends. He relentlessly kill people for money and his life would go downhill if he became obsessed with revenge It's interesting how these two represent what would happen to Niko if he does good or bad choices.
I get the feeling that Bernie decided to put up a facade as a way to cope with what happened back in Serbia .You can see him have a rougher voice and a less singy tone when talking about the deaths of his friends .
I always love Bernie/Florian's casual response to Niko saying how he's got the US government and Mafia up his ass alongside being a target for half the city, by simply replying with "You, are stressed."
I mean... he's not wrong... Getting half of the entire Nation's Security and Law Enforcement to chase your *ss and working with Cutthroat Mafia like the Pegorinos can be, indeed, very stressful 😌
I really came around to liking Florian. I remember playing it originally and disliking the flaming personality, thinking that Niko probably would find it contemptable (coming from Slavic culture myself, I know the local attitudes aren't exactly liberal..). But replaying the game I really found myself enjoying the dynamic of Niko and Florian being old friends, with Florian being one of the people closest to Niko going way back to the old country. So no matter his lifestyle or how much he changed since the war, he's still good old Florian for Niko, and when he's in trouble Niko is gonna help him out. This time around I really enjoyed the entirety of Florian's missions.
Well he was a soldier in different country so yeah make sense he have a different voice, We seen Niko get angry, Imagine we see Florian get angry, no matter if he gay or straight, we probably would not mess with Florian when he get angry 💀 imagine he still have a gun, we probably would be screw
7:44 from here on pay attention to niko’s movements, his outbursts, 8:18 how he copes with the realization that the traitor is Darko and not in the city, super well directed choreography
Looks like nobody noticed something about the Mission title at 2:11, "Weekend at Florian's", it is a parody from an old movie called "Weekend at Bernie's" lol
When Florian is actually angry, that moment when his real voice bleeds in, just goes to show how well he is written. The dichotomy is really well shown.
I heard rumors that Bernie was supposed to be a potential friend for hanging out, but for some reason, it got cut out, though I kind of know why (Bernie appears at nearly the halfway mark of the story). On one side, I am interested to know about Niko and Bernie's past, but at the same time, what can he offer you when you reach a high enough friendship level.
@@CursoryMercenary not exactly. Just because it isn't a "happier" ending doesn't mean it's bad. Let's see: Niko would agree to do the deal because he wants to move on from anger and try do do what's best for him and Roman. When you get the money, Roman and Niko finally fell like they've made it. That Roman and Mallorie can finally have a stable life. Unlike when Niko acts selfish, and chooses to fulfill his revenge mission instead of trying to build a better future for Roman (who has suffered a lot because of Niko's decisions). Killing Dimitri next to the statue of happiness fells right, it feels like the end. Unlike killing Pegorino, witch feels like it's just thrown in so they can roll the end credits...
Really enjoy how even what might be considered somewhat of a joke-character (a comic relief, perhaps) is still very fleshed out in the plot and lives under tragic circumstanes. Looking back, the story of this game really was something special.
@@FeralCabbage I really didn't like him at first but I kind of understand now that there's a lot more depth to his character I didn't get at first. Like how he adopts this stereotypical gay persona to distance himself from his old life, as opposed to just being a stereotype for the sake of being a stereotype.
"When I am done with florian he will be begging to die. That is the best your friend can hope for" for some reason this part of dialogue is hilarious once you already know the context of who florian actually is
I think there were many good reasons why I love this game than gta 5. niko is just so awesome to relate to. I really thought it was because of nostalgia when I was a kid but no, gta 4 is clearly great on its own.
I love how he keeps trying to be calm but there are times when his angry and you can see it eating at him like at 8:25 he like all in a nice voice “well that’s just politics” the one question and he snaps he had great writing I think that this character would have been better if he’d become a friend because maybe they would talk about the war or something that gives niko and Bernie more depth
I would’ve loved it if Florian went with Niko to meet Darko. And had a conversation in Serbian, and Florian would actually speak and act like he did in Serbia. Man it would’ve been so much cooler and add a lot of backstory to the betrayal that happened.
I like to think that after the end of the game, Niko and Florian (alongside Roman) went out on mundane activities like having dinner, go drinking and maybe even a spa day, finally leaving their past behind and helping Niko coping with the horrible things he's gone through and finally moving on.
20:40 For a guy born in Serbia, that went through the fall of Yugoslavia and witnessed ethnic genocide, he's actually quite a supportive gay ally to his gay friend and even dislikes hypocritical anti gay politicians. I guess Michelle/Karen had a point when she said Niko was a 'nice dude' despite him being a hired gun.
It would be freaking badass if Bernie transformed back to Florian (his voice and appearance) while spending time with Niko, and killing/sparing Darko mission as well.
I'm Croatian, and despite both Niko and Florian/Bernie being Serbian I can perfectly understand Serbian, the scenes where they talk Serbian are not exactly the best but I know their voice actors are american and for what it's worth they did do a decent job even if some lines sound strange, like Florian saying "govori engleski" which does mean "speak english" but the way he says it is clearly in a non-eastern european way and I can especially see it in the confrontation between Niko and Darko where Niko's says "mogu da nastavim, sviju, ah? (eng translation: should I go on and name them all?) when it would've been better for him to say something like "mogu da nastavim, sve po redu/mogu da nastavim, da ih sve nabrojim?" which would've been more accurate to the translation but again the voice actors still did a good job and I mean all this criticism in good faith
Bernie is truly one of my favorite rockstar characters ever. He is a strong man for what he’s endured. He is proof that Niko can come out for better on the other side. Always bothered me that they didn’t let you do friend hangouts with him like with Bruce or Roman or Jacob.
i wish the devs kept it in the game to make it optional to kill ray. after all, he did keep his word and help you find florian, even if it was a red herring
the details in this game still amaze me. like how the guy in the back giving directions is looking around and pointing his finger even tho you wouldn't really see him if you're playing
The cutscene from Roman's wedding where he is killed shows more of Bernie then when Kate is killed... both cutscenes can be seen back to back in my "Mr and Mrs Bellic" video (link in the description)
I think there is more depth to Florian than one might assume at first glance. When we meet him, he seems to be a gay stereotype, but his voice and manner of speaking quickly changes when he is questioned about a traitor from his past. I believe he acts like this, refuses to speak Serbian and doesn't want to hear his old name for two reasons: 1.) No one would suspect such a man to have fought in a war and to have potentially engaged in war crimes. 2.) He wants to forget, who he was, so he created a different persona based on a part of himself he wasn't allowed to express in Serbia.
Disappointed that Bernie wasn't a friend you could hangout with. Could've also been cool if they had a DLC where you'd play as Nico or somebody during his time in the war. Maybe as one of the people who died so you could see how different Nico would be compared to post-betrayal.
While Ray was an antagonist in the grand scheme of the Impossible Trinity, he really did keep his word to Niko and never betrayed him. I think that's something a lot of people tend to gloss over.
For as much as they paint Bernie to be a comic relief character, he's really a foil to Niko. Bernie is proof that someone was able to survive the Yugoslav war, survive Darko's ambush, and ACTUALLY start a new life, free from the cycle of violence. It's almost like he was inserted into the story to show Niko he has no excuse for not moving on.
This, he even encourages Niko to move on after he gets the news of Darko's aftermath, if we only had the option to hang out with him i would've loved to see them at some point finally close that chapter of their lives
Every gay character is a comic relief
Niko should take example of him.
You're right, but the circumstances are different. Bernie likely wasn't all that attached to his old identity as Florian Cravic because it was repressive and false. He couldn't truly be the person he wanted to be until he came to America, so it was much easier for him to leave the past behind and embrace something new. For Bernie, it was a fresh opportunity but for Niko it was a tremendous blow and the ruination of everything he'd strived for, so it's much harder for him to move on. Also, Niko has been immersed in violence and crime on a professional and personal level for a long time now whereas Bernie seems to have been living a fairly honest life (besides sleeping with a married man) and old habits die hard.
@@BUCKBREAKING69 Most gay people don't act like a prancing la la homo man caricature.
bernie should've been a friend to hang out with would've provided some funny commentary and hearing them talk about the past and the war would've really added some depth to both characters
jbwolf4 Aww i wish for that
The dichotomy between the two woulda been hilarious... Imagine Bernie slipping between his Serbian self and his fabulous self.
@@From96TilDeathBernie moved on from that time and left it in the past.
true
I think they didn't do so because Bernie wasn't a very close friend of Niko, merely an acquaintance from the village.
I love when Bernies voice gets deep when he's pissed.
Uncle no relation
7:41
I WOULDN'T DO THAT
That's Florian,his gayness hides behind his back.
lmao Todd with a gun
"DEAD, I HOPE!!"
He swaps back to his Serbian war veteran self aka Florian instead of Bernie in those moments
I was shocked too
'I wouldn't do that!'
Original Eastern European voice detected.
Will Marsden Terrifying European more like it.
Will Marsden ikr???
Given that he, Niko and Darko were the only survivors of the attack it's likely he's incredibly dangerous and just hides it.
Matthew Riggs Thats a good thing you brought up. Did bernie pretend to be helpless cause he TRULY wants to be another person, or did he somehow forget his killer skills ?
soldiers never forget I think he truly doesn't want to be a violent man anymore. In real life Niko, Darko and Florian would have been trained by Soviet soldiers and you can't imagine what they were put through.
The men fought in the Bosnian wars so they would have seen quite a lot. War changes everyone, rarely for the better. It's why Niko is so cold and probably why Darko became a raging drug addict. Florian probably plays up his homosexuality as a form of coping, all three men have their coping mechanisms.
Darko- drugs
Florian- alcohol(table seen in the cutscene suggest he drinks) possibly his played up homosexuality
Niko- is clearly and alcoholic too he gets absolutely shitfaced drunk on friend activities but also desperately tries to refuse alcohol when it's given, he struggles with this though as seen in the Holland play where he looks longingly at the Schnapps playboy pours for him, he finally caves at the end of the game where you meet Jimmy P in the strip club. Niko starts throwing back large glasses of Vodka without any thought.
Hahahaha I love how at 8:17 Bernie and Roman are talking about Bernies love life and Niko is just standing there in a crisis probably having flashbacks.
Niko was like "NO NO, that can't be the same dude that slaughtered people and animals at the abattoir, and was a great wrestler."
@@wrestlingstuffv2 well, that explained a lot
I didn't even notice that! Good detail! Damn I love gta 4 so much
Niko is having an Emotional whiplash at that moment lmao
Is nobody going to talk about Niko’s dialogue at 20:40 is quite pure? Like he gave good advice, and on top of that, after realizing he didn’t have to tell Bernie how to live his life, he ended the conversation with “I’m your friend, and I will try to help.”
What amazes the most though was he realized that he’s not usually this talkative and yet he was. And it shows just how much he cares. It’s a nice touch when it comes to this game’s writing.
Niko sounds like me
Niko is a supportive friend
I honestly think it has to do with the phenomenon of people reverting to who they were or how they acted with someone from a long time ago.
Like meeting with your old highschool friend or some elder you respected. Niko got taken back to the young version of himself that was good friends with bernie but before any of the murders happened.
That's just why i think he acts as surprisingly calm and supportive of him so easily and so soon. Once he confirmed that it wasnt him, he knew he had just found his only surviving friend. Darko obviously not being that to him anymore.
"Sure, see you later, Florian."
"BERNIE!"
I laughed when that happened.
DoubleAAntics He is so funny.
DoubleAAntics "See you later Florian"
*"bErNiE"*
DoubleAAntics I hate him so much.
Jacob Rorke
That’s just your personal opinion.
Florian Sounds cooler
The line delivery at 8:26 may actually be my favorite moment in the entire game. Bernie is trying so desperately to keep up his happy, flamboyant persona even in the presence of someone from his horrible past waving a gun in his face, but the mention of Darko makes him completely drop his mask for just a brief moment, and he shows the rage and trauma that still simmers within him. It even seems like he shocks himself a bit, as though he had successfully buried his past, and had not confronted it again until that very moment.
Genuinely makes me tear up every time I see it. This game's writing is a masterpiece.
0:35 - 0:57
One of the most well acted scenes in this whole game.
Gta IV is awesome
It is the only time Niko doesn't seem to easy
I mean in reality, he is paid low by rockstars like... He only got 100k for the 6M they got on the first 6 days when it got released lmaooo
Too bad Niko's voice actor got paid so poorly for his incredible acting skills and we wouldn't see him anytime soon
The whole conversation to be honest.
7:38
The only time you hear his voice revert back to natural chords
gives me chills
8:28
I think he genuinely gets angry that Niko thinks it was him.
It's honestly so good. Absolutely incredible acting and direction.
That was the former war comrade coming out Niko remembers.
No
7:40: " *I WOULDN'T DO THAT* "
Such a great scene; you knew he was telling the truth when he matched Niko w intensity. He became old Florian REAL quick.
11:29 😂😂
Bernie: Because....I think just because I'm fabulous!
Niko: Wat
Vat'
I guess it was too subtle. He meant "Because I'm a homosexual"
dragster1018aone you mean grandma wat meme?
Dont forget:
Bernie: How does my hair look?
Niko: Fine! Niko's face it's hilarious xD
dragster1018aone He is sick.
0:38 The voice actor of niko and rockstar.
Lmao.
Very accurate
LMFAO
Lmao
Michael Hollack vs Rockstar
It's funny. Bernie came to Liberty City and changed his life let go of his past (but you can still see he thinks about it everyday and is angry).
Niko is the opposite, he knows you can't just let go of your past. But rather than ignoring it like Florian he became obssesed with finding out who betrayed him.
Then there's Darko, who after betraying his brothers for drugs proceeded to throw his life down the gutter so hard that he wasn't even on the radar unless the CIA tracked him down.
GTAIV wasn't the wacky zany ride of San Andreas, it didn't have jetpacks or shooting down jets in an F16. But it did have the best original realistic story in video game history. Prove me wrong.
cfroi08 I’m hoping gta 6 brings back the real life immigrant feel gta 4 had. Niko was relatable, I found the story much better than 5
About that you right but its not real about the language roman forgotten serbian cuz he was in liberty city 10 years? And niko's mother milica is speaking english to niko on email? Really? And the reason she said cuz niko is speaking like roman now, well thats not real in gta 4 and the voice actor should be someone from serbia cuz this actor is speaking like russian accent and niko is speaking serbian with mistakes.
Those things for me are not real to be honest.The game and the story are like you watching movie i really enjoyed when i played gta 4
I believe the only part you are wrong is about we forget our past, Florian does not look like thinking about the past everyday.
To me, the IV series will always be the best, especially the Chinatown Wars one. Retro feeling, good story lines, great character development. Everything you would asked for in a GTA game.
GTA IV has something that san andreas dosent have
*L E T S G O B O W L I N G*
"I wont stand it, im just being meeeeeee!"😂
And there is nothing wrong about it, I like Bernie
@@princesslightningstrike4592 100%
Gotta give Bernie credit, he is legit and loyal. Loving of his friends as well. And nice to see Niko reciprocate that same kind of love. Bernie is okay in my book. Just like Niko, I'd go to the ends of the universe to make sure Bernie is safe and okay.
@princesslightningstrike4592I love Bernie, he is a genuinely good friend for Niko to have. Wish we could hang out with him the way we can with Roman, Little Jacob and Pack and Dwayne
Niko: Where is Darko?
Florian: DEAD, I HOPE! D:<
Bernie: ...im not sure! :D
lol
*Funny Comment
This is perfect
@@Dabadi4834 True.
Very funny comment
7:41 when he says "I wouldn't do that!" sounds like it could of been his original voice.
Yes
Matt Canon That's awesome, I never noticed that before. And at 8:28.
Matt Canon Maybe that's how it was, he became gay and has a gayass voice.
+Matt Canon at 7:36 his voice also breaks at the word "fatty" and goes insanely high pitch
Florian was actually a high class solider back then.
It would have been cool if we could've hung out with Bernie Crane, he's an absolutely funny person, the conversations would be hilarious and we could also learn more about Niko's past.
I'm from Serbia myself like Niko Belic, if you know everything about the war. You'll know the rest yourself. He fought Albanians
TheSerbianWolf SRB wow how did you feel while playing gta 4 :0
Mihajlor mc turks conquered your country 😘
Florian
Yeahh that's probably one of the dumbest things Rockstar did out of everyone it would of been cool to hangout with your Old War Comrade and talk about Niko's past
I love how the mission is called weekend at Florian's and when you meet him he tells you he's changed his name to Bernie I like what you did there Rockstar
I dont get it
@@poke-champ4256 its a reference to the movie Weekend at Bernie's
I feel like they gave the character the name Bernie (which is a pretty unusual/random choice of name) just so they could do that joke with the mission name lol
I think it also works on the aspect that Florian is dead, even though Bernie was the dead one in the film
@@leonardopena2673Bob's Burgers Did It With "Weekend At Mort's"
I wish this guy was able to be a friend to hang out with, like Roman or Little Jacob. I really liked him
you some sort of gay?
same here and jerred fuck off unrespectfull hater
@@jerredfarmer7624 well fuck you
humans are humans and gay people are human too
and in the game bernie was a man before and now turned gay
@@robbog4184 HEY! Why don't you pick on someone who fight back!
same
Bernie is a sigma male. He came from the war and unlike coming damaged like Niko or a dengerate like Darko, he instead remade himself and let go of his past. That takes tremendous resolve.
And an insane amount of mental maturity
yeah, so sad he can't find a real man to be with and have to just deal being the lover to a married right-wing politician
and a pinch of bipolar disorder :)
This is the funniest comment on here because while reading this all I could picture was a sigma male edit of Bernie crane
Judging by his slip-ups when you first meet him, it's implied this is just a mask to avoid his trauma.
Seeing Niko as the rough and tough masculine type it was real nice seeing him not judging Bernie on being gay. Shows Niko as a man who doesn’t care for people’s life choices as long as they’re not hurting anyone he cares for.
That and he knows what Florian is perfectly capable of, he has no right to judge him because he's earned his respect way back in the war I imagine it just depends the respect he has for Florian to see him come so far and go through so much
Exactly. He knows Bernie was once a dangerous man named Florian who could easily kill someone if he actually wanted to. The soft flamboyant attitude Bernie has is not the full story
They were friends after all
The "whats happened to you??" He greets him with is funny though, almost like the response youd give your junkie friend who youd just seen for the first time in 15 years
20:45 - 20:47 I fell in love with Niko when he said that for some reason, he just feels like one of the most down to earth friends you could have.
Lolhe killed them
@JustChizzin where did you hear that at? The majority of VAs are still pissed with R*
@@youtubecensored1657 Michael said in an interview more than 10 years ago that it was pretty much a misunderstanding, he did talk some shit about rockstar but he didn't really meant it like that, the problem is rockstar herself, they do not forgive stuff like this
Niko, a true straight ally
i'm sure you killed kate so you can have niko all for yourself
I dunno why but I love that little moment when Niko says "let's have... FUN!" and they hop on the boat at the same time. Idk, it feels weirdly innocent.
it would seem Bernie has fully mastered the concept of finding closure with his past and made a fresh start and a new life. i totally get wanting to leave your shitty old life behind in favor of a more calm and mundane one.
Florian for no reason “ahh~!💁♀️”
11:30
Niko: Why is he treatening you?
Bernie: Because... I think just because I am FABULOUS.
Gets me every time XD
What?
the arms tho
The funnier lime come from Bernie 🤣 no wonder I respect lbgtq. This game is a reason why I respect lbgtq :)
I just love how confused Niko is here. It isn't his usual cynical response and such. He sounds and looks genuinely confused.
@@PlaystationGamerZXMe too
From what I've seen, Florian and Darko are the outcomes of Niko's decision:
Florian/Bernie: He is Niko, who finally let go of his past and found a stable and peaceful life. He let go of his revenge, realizing that it is not the way to gain for your friends killed by another one.
Darko: He is Niko, who never let the past go and let himself be consumed by revenge after the death of his friends. He relentlessly kill people for money and his life would go downhill if he became obsessed with revenge
It's interesting how these two represent what would happen to Niko if he does good or bad choices.
"Honey... you... are stressed."
XD I have never laughed so hard in my life.
Derp Festor 23:33
I get the feeling that Bernie decided to put up a facade as a way to cope with what happened back in Serbia .You can see him have a rougher voice and a less singy tone when talking about the deaths of his friends .
Zeta paga la coca.
@@gideonthearchivist9069 la coca de qué?
@@dkraz la cocacola
@@NationalismDjazair jajajaj después de un año
@@dkraz almenos te resolvi la duda
19:43 GTA IV in a nutshell.
Lol ur right
Or pegorino
@@UKEDNHAT7 He just screws you up on one of the optional endings. Nothing else.
@@NixDarkLord FUCKING Dimitri!
I chose revenge ending because I wanted him to beg for his life while I was laughing until I put him out of his misery.
"Honey...you...are stressed."
I laughed too hard at that
O fuckin died at that 🤣
Hes right though 😂
Among sus😳
He can call Brucie to get a boat ride the exact same thing but suddenly it’s a problem
I always love Bernie/Florian's casual response to Niko saying how he's got the US government and Mafia up his ass alongside being a target for half the city, by simply replying with "You, are stressed."
I mean... he's not wrong...
Getting half of the entire Nation's Security and Law Enforcement to chase your *ss and working with Cutthroat Mafia like the Pegorinos can be, indeed, very stressful 😌
23:05.
I really came around to liking Florian. I remember playing it originally and disliking the flaming personality, thinking that Niko probably would find it contemptable (coming from Slavic culture myself, I know the local attitudes aren't exactly liberal..).
But replaying the game I really found myself enjoying the dynamic of Niko and Florian being old friends, with Florian being one of the people closest to Niko going way back to the old country. So no matter his lifestyle or how much he changed since the war, he's still good old Florian for Niko, and when he's in trouble Niko is gonna help him out. This time around I really enjoyed the entirety of Florian's missions.
That's why I like Florian
BERNIE!!!
war does change people indeed. puts things into perspective and makes you realize the more important things in life.
I like when Bernie's voice gets deep, it's like he still has Florian in there somewhere.
he did fight in the war after all
7:41 his real voice
Makes him sound stronger
@@theloveablewolfuwu2163 he still a soldier after all
It was Florian, working in abbatoir and serving in army, not Bernie. 2 different men
Well he was a soldier in different country so yeah make sense he have a different voice, We seen Niko get angry, Imagine we see Florian get angry, no matter if he gay or straight, we probably would not mess with Florian when he get angry 💀 imagine he still have a gun, we probably would be screw
his fake voice more like. back when he was closeted and had to be more masculine to get by.
7:44 from here on pay attention to niko’s movements, his outbursts, 8:18 how he copes with the realization that the traitor is Darko and not in the city, super well directed choreography
yeah with that swaying back and forth and holding himself, he was definitely shitting himself internally just then
Basically what Michael Hollick said to Rockstar Games 0:38
lol
😂😂😂
I'M DONE :)
Same with mc eiht
😂😂 so accurate
Looks like nobody noticed something about the Mission title at 2:11, "Weekend at Florian's", it is a parody from an old movie called "Weekend at Bernie's" lol
RodrigoTano1 everybody who knows the movie weekend at bernie’s get the reference we just dont care
@@marksantiago9841 people care actually. They just don't bother telling it.
It s hilarious the Florian cravic and Bernie crane thing
I actually didn't know that until reading this comment. Thanks for the info :)
When Florian is actually angry, that moment when his real voice bleeds in, just goes to show how well he is written. The dichotomy is really well shown.
24:16 LMAO even the voice actor broke character "AHHHHH - laugh" lol
I heard rumors that Bernie was supposed to be a potential friend for hanging out, but for some reason, it got cut out, though I kind of know why (Bernie appears at nearly the halfway mark of the story). On one side, I am interested to know about Niko and Bernie's past, but at the same time, what can he offer you when you reach a high enough friendship level.
He should've been a friend. There would have been so many hilarious moments.
that mission at the dock, that's the closest we got to a friend activity.
Ken Hamada maybe the same as henrique in tbogt
some guy francis though he kinda does the same
Ken Hamada The ability to have sex with the gay employee at the expensive clothes store 😂😂😂
Man, gta 4 is the only game i ever really cried at the end of. Amazing storytelling, great character. Too bad gta 5 isnt as good, in terms of story.
MidwesternSlav ending A or B are sad
@@jahn77 Yeah, but that is only temporary.
Its so sad when they kill Roman
@@13_BlackBurn You have to be an idiot to take the deal option anyway
@@CursoryMercenary not exactly. Just because it isn't a "happier" ending doesn't mean it's bad. Let's see:
Niko would agree to do the deal because he wants to move on from anger and try do do what's best for him and Roman.
When you get the money, Roman and Niko finally fell like they've made it. That Roman and Mallorie can finally have a stable life. Unlike when Niko acts selfish, and chooses to fulfill his revenge mission instead of trying to build a better future for Roman (who has suffered a lot because of Niko's decisions).
Killing Dimitri next to the statue of happiness fells right, it feels like the end. Unlike killing Pegorino, witch feels like it's just thrown in so they can roll the end credits...
Bernie is so well written
7:40 I would't do that
7:41 Niko react to Florian's real voice
CSGO NOOB at that moment Niko recognized his old friend.
Really enjoy how even what might be considered somewhat of a joke-character (a comic relief, perhaps) is still very fleshed out in the plot and lives under tragic circumstanes. Looking back, the story of this game really was something special.
God this writing is so fucking good. Where did it go so horribly wrong after this? I haven't seen a gay character as well written as this for years.
There's Trevor Philips who is bi or pan sexual
Tony Prince was better written. It's even weird that Bernie and Bryce weren't a part TBOGT considering they're part of the high society of Algonquin
I like Bernie, but he isn’t the best representation. Still wish he appeared more in the game.
@@FeralCabbage I really didn't like him at first but I kind of understand now that there's a lot more depth to his character I didn't get at first. Like how he adopts this stereotypical gay persona to distance himself from his old life, as opposed to just being a stereotype for the sake of being a stereotype.
@@sharkyjeff this was 2008 when people weren’t that creative but they still did a good job.
Bryce is getting blackmailed
About what?
ABOUT MEEEEEEE 🤣
😂😂 I died in that part!
It got me laughting
the best part is it hits close to home irl in American politics. your local pro family values conservative politician? yeah he prolly a lil fruity
"Can we stop with the fat jokes?"
LMAO xD
TheMcLay1992 nice freckles
"I'm sorry about the fat thing... You're still kind of cute."
Hahahahahahahahaha
“Ha ha. Gee, thanks.”
i find the fat jokes quite funny, hehe.
As soon as his real voice came out, Niko knew he was telling the truth.
"When I am done with florian he will be begging to die. That is the best your friend can hope for" for some reason this part of dialogue is hilarious once you already know the context of who florian actually is
Niko is the best character. After the initial shock of seeing Florian become Bernie. He's pretty accepting and tolerant.
16:56 “about meeeee !” XD
22:29 “yoohoo !” XD
9:00 “bernie !” LMAO
Shit i just love Bernie so much lmao !
Ah me too. Lol
23:07 my favorite moment
Honey... you... are stressed
I thought I found it funny that Niko is wearing a garbage collector's outfit while talking to Ray.
because Ray is trash
Abby Bye When a reply gets more likes than the comment
AJFan89 Because the mission before that was to dress as a garbage man to pick up the ice?
Wow bernie is such a nice person I wish I met him in real life.
Spikereef yeah, me too 😊 he's soooo sweet 😘
Spikereef Honestly I do not have anything to him i would prefer to meet in the real Packie.
Go to the nearest gay bar, plenty of Bernies there :)
xD
Spikereef You are kidding me? He is insane.
Like how Niko is accepting of Bernie's Homosexuality, he doesn't really give a shit what you like considering he likes no one
I think there were many good reasons why I love this game than gta 5. niko is just so awesome to relate to. I really thought it was because of nostalgia when I was a kid but no, gta 4 is clearly great on its own.
For me, it's because it stuck with a beautiful part of my life that i just can't forget
I love how he keeps trying to be calm but there are times when his angry and you can see it eating at him like at 8:25 he like all in a nice voice “well that’s just politics” the one question and he snaps he had great writing I think that this character would have been better if he’d become a friend because maybe they would talk about the war or something that gives niko and Bernie more depth
I LOVE florian he is respectful and cool and cute when niko busts down the door and then hides under the bed and then the face he makes its cute
"I'm just being mmmeeeeeee! " that lines got me wheezing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
8:07 look at this Niko's face he is so done XDDD
6:36 I like this moment!
10:38 "I'M JUST BEING MEEEEE!" 😂
Unreliabbllleeeeeee
That was amazing xD
Dont be a F 4 G
-Niko
That’s my favorite part
Bernie? What are you talking about?
I would’ve loved it if Florian went with Niko to meet Darko. And had a conversation in Serbian, and Florian would actually speak and act like he did in Serbia. Man it would’ve been so much cooler and add a lot of backstory to the betrayal that happened.
*Florian has moved on, would make less sense If He acted completely Like He did before.*
@@Burgerplants yeah. He would 100% sound like Roman if he was there and would wanted Niko to left Darko in his misery.
24:17 listen to this with your eyes closed
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😌😌
😏
Holy shit
🤣🤣🤣
how do i recover from this?
"I think just because im fabulous"
"...what..."
Gets me every time🤣
his accent too ha
11:33
9:05 ''He's moved on from what happened to you, you should've moved on too. Wat are you going to do?'' that is some sick rhyming game! XD
And I thought Roman was passive xD He suggested that Niko should beat up the poker player.
Roman's okay with a couple of broken arm, but not murder
I like to think that after the end of the game, Niko and Florian (alongside Roman) went out on mundane activities like having dinner, go drinking and maybe even a spa day, finally leaving their past behind and helping Niko coping with the horrible things he's gone through and finally moving on.
i love how he even runs gay
The sounds in the game (especially the footsteps sounds when you run) are very satisfying to hear
16:39 “I am cooked” 16 years before it became popular slang
I love Bernie so much it's unreal, I always get hyped the closer I get to unlocking him in the story haha😂
20:40 For a guy born in Serbia, that went through the fall of Yugoslavia and witnessed ethnic genocide, he's actually quite a supportive gay ally to his gay friend and even dislikes hypocritical anti gay politicians.
I guess Michelle/Karen had a point when she said Niko was a 'nice dude' despite him being a hired gun.
It would be freaking badass if Bernie transformed back to Florian (his voice and appearance) while spending time with Niko, and killing/sparing Darko mission as well.
8:07 Niko's face 🤣🤣🤣
Bojler eladó
I love how he takes his precious time stretching. 😂
I'm Croatian, and despite both Niko and Florian/Bernie being Serbian I can perfectly understand Serbian, the scenes where they talk Serbian are not exactly the best but I know their voice actors are american and for what it's worth they did do a decent job even if some lines sound strange, like Florian saying "govori engleski" which does mean "speak english" but the way he says it is clearly in a non-eastern european way
and I can especially see it in the confrontation between Niko and Darko where Niko's says "mogu da nastavim, sviju, ah? (eng translation: should I go on and name them all?) when it would've been better for him to say something like "mogu da nastavim, sve po redu/mogu da nastavim, da ih sve nabrojim?" which would've been more accurate to the translation but again the voice actors still did a good job and I mean all this criticism in good faith
Good to get a quick lesson on it, thanks man!
Bernie is truly one of my favorite rockstar characters ever. He is a strong man for what he’s endured. He is proof that Niko can come out for better on the other side. Always bothered me that they didn’t let you do friend hangouts with him like with Bruce or Roman or Jacob.
i wish the devs kept it in the game to make it optional to kill ray. after all, he did keep his word and help you find florian, even if it was a red herring
"How can you say that! I thought you were different!"
"Its because I want him to attack you!"
This game is diamonds
Thank you for posting
I love how at the mention of Darko, Bernies voice completely changes.
Bernie is a mood
Riight
Fr tho
mhm
I would have loved to have hung out with Bernie, he's just so wholesome. GTA IV is arguably the best GTA ever, and you can't change my mind.
the details in this game still amaze me. like how the guy in the back giving directions is looking around and pointing his finger even tho you wouldn't really see him if you're playing
it’s funny how GTA 6 is being called “woke” but here we have an entirely flamboyant gay character and no one said a thing.
People probably would’ve called it that if this were released today
@@Christian-97for sure, people are weird nowadays
They made him look funny tho, if he was gta 6 he would politically correct
@@s_.777 It’s so unfortunate man
And a whole DLC called The Ballad of Gay Tony
I like how his guys say "Don't be messing with Dimitri Rascalov" but in reality Dimitri is messing with everybody in the city.
Once he said "you want my word fine you got my word" i thought something was up.
The cutscene from Roman's wedding where he is killed shows more of Bernie then when Kate is killed... both cutscenes can be seen back to back in my "Mr and Mrs Bellic" video (link in the description)
I think there is more depth to Florian than one might assume at first glance.
When we meet him, he seems to be a gay stereotype, but his voice and manner of speaking quickly changes when he is questioned about a traitor from his past.
I believe he acts like this, refuses to speak Serbian and doesn't want to hear his old name for two reasons:
1.) No one would suspect such a man to have fought in a war and to have potentially engaged in war crimes.
2.) He wants to forget, who he was, so he created a different persona based on a part of himself he wasn't allowed to express in Serbia.
0:38 this sentence hits differently after all these years... This is niko talking to Rockstar...
Niko is really a good friend😊.
So he did show up at Roman's wedding. Really nice that he got invited.
Disappointed that Bernie wasn't a friend you could hangout with. Could've also been cool if they had a DLC where you'd play as Nico or somebody during his time in the war. Maybe as one of the people who died so you could see how different Nico would be compared to post-betrayal.
why didnt rockstar let us to hang out with him?
Thats sad, i liked to hear his gayness, he was funny
@@somefries3101 bumping into old conments...
Maybe he was too fabulous
Rockstar aint ready for the gays to have the spotlight in their franchise
@@andrewbui8295 ballad of GAY tony
25:38 When you're chilling by the Ukrainian coastline
RUSSIAN WARSHIP. GO FUCK YOURSELF
LMAO you win
This guy always cracked me up. XD He should've become a reoccurring character in GTA V.
Honestly, I wish we got to see more of Bernie. I liked his character a lot.
While Ray was an antagonist in the grand scheme of the Impossible Trinity, he really did keep his word to Niko and never betrayed him. I think that's something a lot of people tend to gloss over.
I'm really surprised he didn't appear in TBoGT.