Florida veteran claims US recruited him into military under false promises
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- One U.S. military veteran is fighting for his legal status in America after he claims he was recruited into the military under false promises of citizenship. Advocates say he’s not the only one.
" Never Trust A Recruiter "
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
Never trust the govmt
Amen, there’s a reason some people jokingly call them used car salesmen 😅
I remember when my brother was enlisted into the army, his recruiter had promised him he was going to get I think I remember it was like a $5,000 bonus after completing basic training and AIT, and he ended up with something around $1,000 bonus in the end instead. Complete b.s.
I’m not sure why anyone thinks this is, “news.” It’s like saying I got scammed by someone saying they were a Nigerian prince. Yeah? What else is new?
If this man served in the U.S. military, paid taxes and voted, then he's an American citizen! Give him citizenship!
There is no recruiting bonus in the Army. Would you all feel the same if he was Mexican, from Africa or the Middle East?
@@jackbejumpin Yes, I would!
@@j.l.a.delagarza6994 Even if you hold a green card you still have to pay taxes if you are employed in the US.
Just cross illegally, then you can get all kinds of free stuff
@@SpaceRanger187 right? You have thousands of illegal immigrants drawing benefits when people like this man are left out in the cold and country less. I’m not against immigration in the slightest, our country regardless of what anyone says was built on and by immigrants. I’m just saying it should be done properly. Think of it this way. Would you let someone in your home without at least knowing a little about who they are? Share meals with someone and allow them free reign of your own home? You’re a liar or a complete fool if you say yes. Some of my best coworkers and friends have been newcomers. But there’s is absolutely nothing wrong with forcing immigrants to go through proper vetting processes. It only wrong to hate an entire people over fear.
Just another example of how shitty our country treats our veterans
you still have to apply. thats his own mistake
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
Country means people so quit using journalist stations because not everybody treats them the same.
@@poollife777 as A 20 year Veteran, yeah they pretty much do treat us the same
This is an exception, seen many soldiers get their citizenship in the military.
If you don't want them in our country, you shouldn't let them in our military period. Anybody that serves in the military should automatically be a citizen.
should be but instead they get them for free labor & then deport people. He didn't get deported , so he's one of the "lucky" ones.
So, how many months of military service does it take to be a US Veteran? I was born in the USA and served 20 years, honorably discharged.
This was a paperwork screw up, I was in the military and seen many soldiers get their citizenship, it's a big thing and celebration, if someone screwed up it was whoever did his recruiting paperwork.
@@SandCrabNews 6 months or 180 days
Recruit your own citizens or have a smaller military!
If he honorably served, he deserves citizenship. Yet another instance when our veterans are lied to and disrespected. This is shameful!
lied to by other veterans
He should've never been allowed to serve in our military!
They do it to hispanics all the time yet because they are not white like this guy no one cares
@@billquakenbush1692 Wrong. Lots of people came to our country through the military. One of our Olympic 5k/10k runners, Paul Chelimo, migrated here from Kenya. When they realized they had an elite Kenyan runner in basic, they sent him straight to Army track team. I served with several people who came here like that. They deserve citizenship more than most Americans.
Not to worry Joe has a plan to solve this problem... THREADS
A recruiter lied? Nahhhhhhhh!
😂 no s*it.
Me too.
He was recruited during hostilities so technically they didn’t.. it just didn’t work out right
Him too! Say it's not so!
I never lied when I was a recruiter, I did however paint word pictures that others misinterpreted.
Give him the citizenship... He is more American than normal citizens. 🇺🇸
Nope
@saulspanco854 What's wrong, Precious?
Yep.@@saulspanco854
You can't give citizenship to a citizen. If either of your parents is a U.S. citizen then you are automatically a natural born U.S. citizen so says the constitution. Both of his parents are citizens rendering him a natural born citizen at birth. The State of Tennessee has effectively stripped him of his citizenship and arbitrarily so because they don't have a clear understanding of the constitution.
@@saulspanco854you don’t know the first thing about being a true American
Served, paid taxes, voted..Give this guy his citizenship!
You do realize that you're being tricked into accepting illegal aliens into our military, right?
They need to give USA citizenship to those that served in the us military. Geez they allow millions of illegal immigrants to cross the border!
Dumb. Why allow someone to just get citizenship because they served in the military. There are plenty of criminals who joined the military because they were given a choice to serve or prison. But I thought all conservatives like you want any illegal alien to be sent back.
LMFAO, maybe people like you should do something. That is right, you dont care. Stop using us veterans as political pawns. You are sick. We can do both racist.
The Roman Empire did it
He should've never been allowed in the military!
More drama from the peanut gallery.
They’ve been doing this for decades
Yes they sure have been obtaining state id’s and not going through the citizenship process.
Centuries actually
Yeah what a shocker Goldberg wants more and more and more people in here
I'm one of the.
Exactly
This man has to be the most American, un-American person ever.
deport him
Take note. This is the proper path to legal immigration. Give this man what he’s owed.
Seems like he should've gotten this straight decades ago.
If you think this is proper at all, then you are a bigot
exactly man followed the rules.
thousands already have this story is bs
The man would have been treated better if he snuck across the border. Seems the governor of Florida could write some sort of pardon for his sin and get him a lousy drivers license. I mean would it be just horribly detrimental to the state of Florida and its citizens to issue this guy a drivers license?
I didn’t even know you could be in the military and not be a citizen.
If someone has permanent resident (green card) they can enlist. Once in they can apply for US Citizenship. It is not automatic.
There was a Russian dude in my boot camp in 1999
You can’t. They naturalize you in boot camp.
@@EVP5309 Serving in the military can be a fast track towards citizenship in certain instances, but you don’t just get citizenship for enlisting, especially not as early as basic training. There’s still an application process.
I have personally served with many non-citizens, some of whom did not speak English. Most were Latinos, one Brazilian, one Mongol, a few Slavs.
@@richard1493 yep it's a process
IDK what is the bigger insult, not giving this man citizenship or calling him a soldier after saying he joined the Marine Corps.
lol!
Semper Fi 🇺🇸
Hmmm! Both are pretty freaking bad! Looking at the current administration, becoming an American citizen would be the bigger insult. Although calling him a soldier does warrant an a** kicking. lol
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
Well I am a veteran airman that fought ..and killed ..I am a fucking soldier....screw your marine bullshit!
This man is a United States Marine. Give him his damn citizenship!!!
That's just BS. You don't just "give" citizenship away to people who served as Marines. I was in the Corps, and don't think that should get any special privilege's. He needs to go through the necessary channels to "earn" that citizenship. The only thing he "earned" was the right to be a Marine for life and to wear out sacred emblem for life. He didn't "earn" citizenship. As a Marine, he should know better than wo whine about promises never made in writing, man up, take the proper tests, and become a citizen the proper way.
@@benvaldez1784 Yeah, sure kid. IF you ever wore my uniform you would know we are "Always Faithful" and that means we keep our word and our promises. He was made a promise, via a contract, and it should be kept. Playing call of duty doesn't make you a Marine. I served with way too many people who made citizenship thru blood sweat and a few sent home in boxes to listen to some little kid who in no way speaks for the Corps.
@@benvaldez1784 BULLSHIT, YOU SERVE YOUR COUNTRY, SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC. THIS IS BULLSHIT AND YES, I AM A COMBAT VETERAN.
@benvaldez1784 negative. I am also a veteran, and he did indeed earn it. He fought for our country. He didn't get a "privilege", he took an oath and risked his life for this country
@@benvaldez1784 Thats all fine and dandy. But the notion of signing up for the U.S military and even become eligible to serve and NOT gain the citizenship is baffling. THE U.S MARINE CORPS of all branches, let that sink in. What you're basically saying here is that despite getting your legs blown off in some shithole in the middle east decorated with awards , you come back home in all the glory but you don't get the citizenship? That's absolutely retarded. And one more thing AS A MARINE MYSELF , GO FUCK YOURSELF. OORAH
Are you telling me a recruiter told an untruth?
Tell me it aint so.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
During Roman times serving in the military was a sure path to citizenship. Mr Canton served our country, he has earned the right to become an American citizen. Please give it to him.
"During Roman times" they had slaves and forced some of them to fight to the death...not the best comparison
@@weltschmerz333during Roman times they drank wine and ate bread. What’s your point?
It’s dumb to compare a dude trying to get citizenship to slavery. WTH. There are decent values and virtues we can take from the past, duh.
And that's what destroyed the roman empire
@@MidnightMoses-ow1ul true, and open borders 😂
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
As a fellow Marine, I am disgusted by this!!!
He deserves this more than some Americans I know.
@thegoodsathome as an American Citizen (Born in Texas) whose Parents were Illegal. (Parents Divorced) Mother became Naturalized Citizen before i got into junior high and i Myself joined U.S.M.C. at age 17 Mother signed Approval went off to boot camp at age 18 (Dec 1983 - Dec 1987) 'Hollywood' Marine. I too agree as a Fellow Marine this Man Earned his Citizenship, through service.
He's a mercenary
Who cares what you say.
@@poollife777 ..... have you ever considered taking some of your own advice!
But thanks for stepping up and pointing out Your Asshole in the room!!👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@deidresable And you're a freeloader. What's your point exactly? Freedom isn't free and you sure as hell didn't add to the bill.
Government should be ashamed of itself.
yes dont allow non citizens in to our military
As a veteran of foreign war, give this man his damn green card. He served with us, he's one of us.
Give this Marine his citizenship !
I was born here, served in the U.S. Army, and I agree he is an American by heart !
That's not how it works buddy
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
i had no idea you could be in the military but not be american. wtf.
I served in the Navy and INS fuck with my citizenship for 10 years after I was honable discharged from the Navy
how many american army movies do I need to watch to be a citizen "by heart"?
There is a 77 year old man in Tennesse having this same problem. He was born in Canada on a military base. He has his social security number and has had his drivers license his entire life..drove a commercial truck for a living. It's that new Real ID law causing this problem.
Not really the same thing. That guy was born to a mother and father that were US citizens which means he is a citizen. That whole issue is just Tennessee being pants on head retarded.
In that story both his parents were US citizens so he should hold dual citizenship
@@darkstorminc You'd think...but yet he's not considered a US citizen based on the Real ID laws...
@@darkstorminc Only have to have 1 parent who is US citizen to get it. That why whole thing with people saying Obama was not born in USA did not matter because his mother was a USA citizen
LIAR!!! NO 77-year old has had an SSN their ENTIRE LIFE!!! It WASN’T until 1992 that ALL babies got an SSN. OTHERS didn’t get one until they started a JOB!!!
He's a American in spirit and heart. Give this man his due citizenship.
This is BS
How 'bout the lie they tell all veterans that when you get out employers will hire you on the spot.
depending on MOS. I know a ton of ATC and aircraft engineers who got tons of offers before they even got out with airports and contractors. hell, even if you were a cook and applied for McDonald's, they'd probably hire you on the spot. I got out with a clearance and 10 point preference, got a government job no problem.
maybe it's just you or what you did. not much use for something like artillery out in the world, but that's on you if that's the only value you got out with.
@@leok7193Spot on. Infantry veteran here, 10 point preference and clearance. Got a job in law enforcement while on terminal leave, didn't enjoy it and filled out an application on USA Jobs. No issues, first try was a charm. If a vet can't find or keep employment, there's something else going on.
Guess you picked the wrong MOS pal. I’m a high school drop out that got out at 12 years now at a 200k a year job thanks to the military.
How did you join the military without a diploma or equivalent?@@Ferrous_Bueller
Most federal agencies will consider qualified military veterans first. That work experience you gain in the military will give you advantage.
If he served it should be automatic citizenship.
oh really? what if he served and deserted? what if he served and got kicked out for antisocial behavior? how about we make it conditional instead of automatic?
@@leok7193 it says it in the video. Citizenship upon honorable discharge.
@@mar25947 so by that definition, it can only be filed for AFTER discharge. So that's when he was supposed to apply and didn't. There's nothing automatic about becoming a citizen, it is and should be an action required upon the hopeful citizen, same way you actually put some effort into becoming a Marine.
It's funny to me, though, that he never bothered applying, but also wasn't bothered that he never stood in front of an official, was never quizzed on civics, swore an oath, or received a naturalization certificate. It's almost like he literally decided secret ninjas will do all that for him and never even let him know 🤦♂️ pretty sure he was a substandard Marine, then. What he shows as awards are automatic time in grade promotion and a 2 hour correspondence course. I have a total of 10 certificates of commendation, letters of appreciation, and certificates of appreciation, along with a Distinguished Service Medal, in 4 years, and got my citizenship during the same time, and was sworn in on the deck of an aircraft carrier by California lieutenant governor.
It took some research, but blaming a recruiter for some false promises is bs. The guard for your building can let you in to work, tell you where offices are, what benefits the company has but 1: he's not CEO, 2: he doesn't get to make any promises unless they're in writing, and 3: whatever they tell you is to help you navigate once you're in, but what you want to do and how to do it is strictly your job
What if he served and got killed?
Does his corpse get citizenship?
This is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard in my life!
Tricking foreign people to fight wars we ourselves have no business being in...
Ugh!
I don't like America when RETARDICANS are in office!
It's because he's white. I fixed it. When I was in the navy we had so many foreign nationals serving that gained citizenship that were from the Philippines, Hong Kong, the Dominican republic, etc.
While the recruiter brought him in on a false promise, he did fight for our country and should receive what was promised. The DOD needs to help in this situation.
This gentleman is a Marine not a soldier.
He should've never been allowed to be in our military!
@@billquakenbush1692 You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. There are foreigners in all branches of the US Armed Forces. I served with an Haitian immigrant when I was stationed at Camp Lejeune. He should have never been lied to by dishonest Marine recruiters.
@@billquakenbush1692 are you going to post that on every comment?
@@jjpercevalYep this is the second time I saw that exact same comment. At first I thought I had hit the wrong thing.
@@billquakenbush1692 I had to prove I was a US citizen before I could serve. People in our territories can serve also. They aren't US citizens.
A legionnaire can get French citizenship after three years of serving in the French Foreign Legion.
The key word used was CAN. Joining the Legion is NOT guaranteed as poor performance even with completing their contract results in no citizenship.
He would still need to APPLY by filling out the appropriate paperwork!
And a foreigner in the Russian military gets citizenship after one year of service.
He would have more rights in America if he came in here illegally from the southern border..
This brings up SO many other issues in our system. Apparently he had a social security card, and voted despite not legally being a citizen. Yet, some people say that non-citizens aren't voting... He paid taxes, yet they didn't know he wasn't a citizen. Otherwise, it 's really a non story. Obviously it's his bad for assuming the process for getting his citizenship was automatic; nothing in life is automatic. Now he's finally properly applying, and he's upset that it's not immediate; he hasn't even had his hearing yet, where he will most likely be granted his citizenship. It'll be a story if he is denied at his hearing.
Joining the military does not guarantee you U. S. citizenship. They will help you, but you will never get it if you are waiting.
Exactly, the application is free
@ClarkShumway ---> Wow ---- with that logic you must be a guvment paper pusher. Joining and serving Honorably in a Branch of the U.S. military SHOULD give automatic U.S. citizenship. Spineless/gutless born in America boys that have never served a single day are considered "citizens" simply because their mother hatched them somewhere in the U.S.A.. The man in the video enlisted in the hardest Branch of the U.S. military and served honorably.
{Sad that your post got any "Thumbs Ups" at all.}
Spot on. The military doesn't guarantee citizenship, it can only facilitate. Still today, new soldiers who are legal I-551 card holders, and have applied properly for citizenship, get a fast track to citizenship. A coworker just transferred from his position as a senior drill sergeant at FT Leonard Wood. He told me that they will go above and beyond to get trainees a citizenship ceremony at graduation time, but the paperwork needs to be completely in order, and most of that lies with the individual.
@@Driftless-Ramblings according to the recruiters, the paperwork is done by them. thats the problem, people are directly told that they just have to serve and that they process will be done for them. i have seen it first hand.
@@gasad01374 If true (don't take it personally, i don't trust anyone on the internet) that's appaling.
He should have applied for citizenship while he was in the Corps. Now he needs to reach out to his senator and congressman along with the legal team he has. Best of luck. Semper Fi!!!
thats the process, and he didnt
@@diegojines-us9pcthe process sucks.
@@colorbugoriginals4457 it may, but its what we got and been around A LONG time,
Sim-plify!
Or... He enlisted and served our country with a sworn oath to protect the US and earned the right to become a citizen. French foreign legion anyone? And we screwed him. As a veteran who took a bullet in combat. I say he served his time. The Corps shoulda done it for him. Cut the red tape. I gladly accept him as a citizen of my country.
I don’t think we should allow non-citizens to be in the US military. That being said, this guy honorably served our country in exchange for citizenship.
Why? This country has always had non-citizens in the military. Again, why?
@@mikecrooks8085 Would the Chinese military allow a US citizen to join?
@@TheRealCaptainFreedom Because they have mandatory service and a crap ton of people. The US is volunteer service and too many freeloaders who just want to play Marines in call of duty. Freedom isn't free.
@@TheRealCaptainFreedom wow! would space aliens have a US citizen to join their military? I am not up on current PLA enlistment policy, and don't care. I guess if we are in the fruit section, just go ahead and pick a random fruit to compare. You are all over the place, now in space.
I feel ya brother. Always read the contract before signing. Hopefully someone will make it right. Semper Fi.
Even amongst active duty members and veterans, recruiters are considered scumbags for lying and inappropriate behavior with the recruits prior to enlistment. It's not often talked about, but there are quite a few predators in our recruiting departments.
Recruiters have the second hardest occupation in military next to drill sergeants. It is thankless job that most do not understand.
@@The_Black_Knight
@@The_Black_Knightoh yes, bs'ing teenagers is so much more difficult than fighting a war in the infantry
Just a week ago a Marine Recruiter in California broke into two homes, and in the 2nd one, he stabbed an 11 year old girl in her sleep. Thankfully the homeowner was able to hold him at gunpoint and the girl is recovering, but it was insane to hear about.
That's all soldiers m8
To the lying recruiter(s): "Thank you for your service."
This is the most disrespectful thing I have ever heard
Marines are not soldiers they are Marines!
No better way to piss off a Marine by calling him/her a soldier 😒smh
What do you call a peacetime marine ?
There are no soldiers in the marines only marines.
This is true however, Should be Marines not marines. Semper Fi
@@wayneblackwood8832YUT! 🍻
tbh as someone not from the US that sounds confusing
I guess thats the same thing as when civilians call anything with tracks and a gun a "tank" lol
They are soldiers, as they serve in an army: the us military. Soldier can be used as a general term. Marines only look weak with this kind of petty quibbling.
@MrTsiolkovsky but they don't serve in an army. They serve in a Marine Corps. Even if you mean as an "Army" echelon of a formation that's still not necessary true.
People saying give him Citizenship, well give the same to Mexicans, Guatemalans that went through the samething. Sympathize for them as well.
I enlisted in the US military as a Resident Alien. I was fully aware that if I wanted my citizenship I would need to apply for it. Eventually I filed the application and became a Naturalized American citizen. I was not lied to, abandoned and looked at the laws and process myself.
The INS should do the honorable thing and expedite citizenship for vets like this.
Name one treaty, contract, or promise the US has not broken.
Quit bashing America when criminalls are voted into office, blame the voters.
An American soldier in the US Marines….. seriously ABC?
That shit ate at me too man like holy shit.
For those unfamiliar: the Army is comprised of soldiers, the Marine Corps is made up of Marines.
Almost all Americans who have not served in the military incorrectly refer to all military personnel as 'soldiers'. It's kinda like the widespread misuse of the term 'Native American'.
@@DistrustHumanz exactly what I was getting at. I served in the Marine Corps and now I’m in the National Guard, and that still bothers me.
@@josephmaness7515 yup! Drives me nuts every damn time. This is something that is so damn simple.
This is wrong in so many ways. This needs to be made right. Give this American his title.
Why are non US citizens in our military? That's a big problem...
I heard that U.S.M.C. tells it recruits they only have to run 3 miles a day, but when they get into boot camp, if the drill instructor tells them to run 10 miles, they are going to run 10 miles.
Uncle Sam never does anything automatically. You have to do the paperwork and fees until you get that paper that states you are officially a USA citizens. Don't assume because you just make an ass of yourself.
You should challenge the citizens' test. You should be a citizen of the USA.
Almost certainly, he actually is a citizen. He does not meet the requirements for Real ID because he does not have a US-issued birth certificate or passport. It is really a document probably.
He served honorably for America. He is due citizenship. There’s too many people who contribute nothing that are given citizenship. This man contributed.
many people serve. but after they serve there is a process they must do. and he didnt. simple.
@@diegojines-us9pc BS, the man served. We (America) give citizenship to all sorts of folks that haven't given a doggone thing back to the US; give the man his citizenship that he has earned. Now that is an issue that our government need to address ASAP.
@@MrFran069 the rules state if you serve you can stay in country legally AS LONG AS YOU APPLY. he didnt so there,
@@diegojines-us9pc he was told by the recruiter that all he had to do was serve and that the recruiter would do everything else, so he did what he was told to do and the recruiter didnt. simple.
@@gasad01374 now as a vet myself. i dont know of any recruiter that would say he would do the best, ask around,
If you serve in our armed forces, you should be able to naturalize without difficulty. Period
I was promised a sign on bonus but I never received it. US NAVY . Never again volunteer yourself
Fuck that, you serve with honor, complete your term you're a citizen.
I was an army recruiter, that attorney is wrong on sooooo many levels!
Agreed. 💯
I agree completely. They are making it more of a thing then it is. The guy is eligible for citizenship but he needs to first apply for permanent residency. He probably he had a bank account all this time anyway.
Bonuses for enlisting poolee's
Lol, right!?! I never received any bonuses, just constant abuse and threats from lesser leaders, who were hiding from the real Army. Worst 3 years of my life!
@@Driftless-Ramblings Recruiting was indeed the worst time of my life. I have so many stories to tell. It sucked fecal matter straight from the devil's rectal cavity.
Also, it's a choice to join the military, so it's his fault.
I was born here and he’s just as if not more American than I!! Thank you for your service!
then you should be on next boat out with him
Repay him every dime he's ever paid in taxes.
that's complete bull he's a citizen he served this country. that's the least the country owes him.
That's not how it works
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
@@jackdaniels5134yes it is fuck face. That’s exactly how its worked since the foundation of this country with the formation of the first continental army to fight the British. Learn some shit before u starting talking like at unAmerican traitor.
It is now
He earned his citizenship. He just never went to immigration to apply for his citizenship status. I have a buddy in the Army from S. America that served for 15 years. He still had to go through the immigration process. Now he is a naturalized American. I wonder if he was told at some point he had to do it on his own and blew if off. It has happened in the past.
He’s a MARINE not a soldier
His nationality was wrong, should have been Hispanic or from Africa or Venezuela, on and on. Or went to the southern border and get asylum.
As a fellow veteran this makes me sick to my stomach. He is more American than most. We veterans are only a very small percent of this country.
Military recruiters are salesmen. The COTUS and US CODES provide no automatic naturalization for military service! Service members have opportunity to pursue naturalization. They qualify for fast service. Learn the game rules!
@@SandCrabNews He just hasn’t figured how to work the system yet. I hope he gets justice.
Less than 1 percent of Americans are military folk. We spend more on building weapons than on the people.
@@funveeable Very much agree. Back when I was in we only made up 1% of the country. 🫡
Seriously? I'm a Marine Veteran. The only thing that makes me sick to my stomach is that this Marine expects something that wasn't written in his contract or US Law. He should have known better. He did no independent research to verify the promise or how one becomes a US citizen. He can still be a citizen. He needs to quit his whining and jump through the proper hoops to become a citizen.
I was a recruiter, we never received a bonus for people enlisting!
Same here. I'd like to know where she got that information.
Obviously it was Ass umed by her to be true.
She also spread misinformation about having to serve during wartime. Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 328, a U.S. military service member may be eligible for citizenship after serving honorably for at least one year during peacetime.
I was a Army recruiter never did I receive one either 😂
@@terrydow3452 and after the gulf war the time of war was extended through at least 9/11 actions
That's not how it works. All he had to do was apply for citizenship while serving. It bypasses all of the other requirements.
Cross the border and come back in illegally.
I have heard of this too often now. These individuals men and women served in the US military and are promised US citizenship it should be honored
It is honored. Dude never applied for citizenship. It's not automatic. You have to apply. Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), Section 328, a U.S. military service member may be eligible for citizenship after serving honorably for at least one year during peacetime. The veteran has to apply within six months of discharge.
Honorable discharge should be automatic citizenship.
Why? The military is a job. Once he's out he can get another job. He went through the proper channels, like everyone else, to become a US Marine. He needs to go through the proper channels, like everyone else to become a US citizen.
This is a thing that a congressman should be able to assist him with.
If his wife is a citizen he would had filed for papers decades ago
Where are Florida Senators. Come on, Marco and Scott. And that's Cat Cammack's congressional district.
Yea we’ve got to get this marine his DL. This is ridiculous!
HE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD GO BACK TO NZ AND COME IN THE LEGAL WAY AND STOP LYING ON THE MILITARY
Those two fucks won't do anything for that man
Brother all of got recruited into the military under false promises. Never got stationed in Italy or my 10k bonus that was promised to me because it wasn’t on paper. Did my 4 years and bailed.
As an immigrant (legal) from the UK I joined the military in 1979 . Citizenship was neither mentioned nor promised during the recruitment process . I got my citizenship on my own in 1987 . I served until 2004 . Being a war veteran means jack shit too as far as citizenship .
Marines are Marines, not Soldiers.
This is absolutely absurd. This man should be granted his citizenship immediately.
Not how it works.
@@geeewiz2231 -- He tried it there / legal way and they turned around and bent him over.
The man served. The man’s a citizen. Someone needs to make this right, right now.
He should have done what he was supposed to while he was serving to get his citizenship.
He needs to simply apply by filling out the paperwork. There is not need for this drama.
I’d trust a recruiter over a liberal lawyer from Berkeley.
By the way, my recruiter promised me I would get in the band. I ended up in the Infantry. Semper Fi !!!
I should have known about things like that. Some Marines hope for infantry, but they get embassy duty. The ones who like infantry consider embassy duty boring, even though it's an honorable assignment.
Your first mistake was believing your recruiter
I was in the navy during bootcamp we had 5 people that weren't citizens i ask them what they had to do to get it they all told me that you have to apply for it while you're in and u stay in to they give it to you which took a couple years i guess he had a a recruiter that didn't know what the f*** he was talkingabout
Marine recruiters are notoriously bad at this. We had a guy come to our unit after serving 4 years in the marine corps and no one assisted him with his citizenship. Interesting how our squad leader and Platoon Sergeant got the ball rolling on it and after 6 years dude got his citizenship.
@@KazeriantheVIIII That's awesome NCO leadership right there.
Look - we can go on & on about screw stories.. but as usual - someone didn't take responsibility for themselves & do / take the steps necessary to do for themselves. I spent several years in the military and personally know several Marines and Soldiers who became citizens while on active duty. There are steps & paperwork you have to take, besides just enlisting (like everyone else) but obviously being enlisted helps make the process easier. Although one my Sgt.'s had been in 8 years before he became a full fledge citizen (he was from England) - funny as 💩 , he was African American & like an actor, we never knew until he started speaking with his English accent, celebrating becoming an official citizen. Another guy was from Saudi - he officially got his citizenship right before Desert Storm - when he got promoted to Sgt. & taken into intelligence because he could speak Farsi.
you can get it AFTER you served as well, but if you dont apply, you are illegal, simple law.
@KazeriantheVIIII As a Former Marine Corps Recruiter
FYI, the Recruiter isn't going to carry you your entire enlistment.
It's not an automatic process.
They need to do the proper immigration paperwork to apply for U.S. Citizenship.
His more American than alot of people with citizenship I met who don't even speak English very well some of them with absolutely no English!!!
US does not have an official language. I bet they least are somewhat bilingual or even trilingual like my immigrant dad was, are you?
The majority of the States have designated English as their official language.
@@TokyoJoe3 Actually they can't make a language official per state when there is no federal regulation as to a national language.
@@bspoon5041 AK Stat § 44.12.310 (2014) disagrees with you. That is just one example.
@@TokyoJoe3 Really Arkansas is the best you have? If you have residents of a state by census who speak other languages than English you must provide written material that is translated into their primary language. You cannot require or request someone speak English. Heck growing up one part of my family spoke only Polish the other half spoke French and the community I grew up in spoke mostly Spanish.
Give what you owe US government
That wouldn’t be the first time a recruiter has lied.
At least he doesn't have to pay any taxes now. Wait, he does? How again is that legal?
I can tell you that there was no offer of automatic citizenship, he just didn’t pursue the paperwork when it was presented him to do.
We're you there? Invaders from Mexico get free citizenship, why shouldn't he
@@eligebrown8998 I am against illegal entry, having said that, no, they don’t get citizenship “for free.”
@@bigsasha500serving in the US military is not free
@@bigsasha500in Israeli 2 years are required by everyone, yet hundreds of millions will never serve here.
@@eligebrown8998go back to Europe.
Why let a non citizen join anyway?
They have deported people who have served in the military and been in the USA just as long as him and some longer. Sucks when you find out that you are also considered less than.
But did he actually like turn in his paperwork to become a citizen??? 😅
Its a lot of flipping paperwork
@@Unknown_Needles Not a lot of paperwork, but plenty of small informatiosn that you have to give out including your trips outside of the US within 5 years into your applications. I had to decipher dates stamped on my passport in and out. Addressed for the last 5 years into application, etc, etc, Convictions or crimes you have committed if you have one. Tell the truth because if you lied, they can refuse you citizenship.
@@createinmeacleanheartohgod6871 and that's your opinion and my opinion is that it's a lot of paperwork. Besides I'm a citizen so I don't care.
I served in the Navy with MANY shipmates who weren't citizens, thinking that they were earning their citizenship through service. However, I also served with criminals who signed for service to avoid a prison sentence. You can't make this stuff up....
The Filipino Mafia! It's how the freaking US Navy stays afloat and at sea!!!😆😆
And this is why no one wants to go to the military. As much as i would like to ill just fight here.
He needs to get out of Florida before they arrest him for voting.
Ikr
This is HORSESHIT!!! He served HONORABLY!!! We as Marines do not leave each other behind, the DoD WILL Shanghai your ass but Marines do not. Where is the Commandant of the Marine Corps at?
Give the man his citizenship. With all the other bull going on, and he wants to be here!!! He's a keeper..
Naturalized citizenship is not "automatic." You still need to do the paperwork. C'mon, you're dealing with the government. There's a form for everything.
They shouldn't have been allowing non citizens to join our military in the first place ..I guarantee there is way more to this story .
He isn't the only one. There's another man in Florida who came here at age 2, retired Marine, can't even get VA benefits.
Citizenship can be conferred by an act of congress.
Seems like he didn’t put in the paperwork for citizenship and thought he got it automatically. I served in US Army and USMC. I joined US Army as an immigrant and had to put in my petition for citizenship with INS as it was called at the time. Got my US citizenship six months after. My MOS in USMC required citizenship for secret clearance. He actually broke the law by voting and I’m surprised they haven’t gone after him for that. Florida is cold blooded when it comes to that. Also there are my veterans in Mexico that got deported after serving in US armed forces.
You have to apply for citizenship. That is how it works
I thought non citizens voting was a myth?
I hope all this can be resolved soon, thank you for helping this veteran
I dont know who to trust less, recruiters or immigration attorneys
Is it really that surprising?!? Hell, as natural born citizens, we don’t even get what we’re entitled to… and there’s always gonna be some loophole… 😒
This man has earned citizenship in the United States and it is only right he be becomes naturalized as a US citizen immediately.