Captain America: Civil War Review (Non-Spoilers)
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Kristian Harloff, John Campea, Jon Schnepp and Dennis Tzeng do a non-spoiler review of Marvel's latest blockbuster, Captain America: Civil War!
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SPOILER!
And after all the fighting, Cap and Iron Man resolve their fight after learning that they both have bestfriends named James.
Stfu
I understood that reference
I hate that part the most from bvs
vhat a twist
+rey skywaka very clever
What, no Mark Ellis. Oh yeah, he didn't see it yet
+Kåre Hansen He's such a highlight. Too bad he's not in
+Kåre Hansen Thats cold man Thats cold
Lmao
+Kåre Hansen ha ha ha. shit ive not seen it either
good fuck that dude
Oh man, I can't wait that DC fanboys will claim that Marvel paid critics
😂😂😂lol
can't ***
im a fan of both but idky strictly Marcel fans think that critics being paid off is unimaginable
+Junie Gyllenhaal on this scale its unimaginable
+Thanos Titan you know BvS is not a 29% movie at all.
yhea but if there is no *MAAAARTTTTHHHAAAA * SCENE im not watching
BUCKYYYYYYYY,
+nicolas prieto Hey, Bucky's name is James and Rhodey's name is James as well so..."JAMES?!? WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!? DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?!?"
+Gabriel NR L
People walked out of the theater shouting "MARTHA" like Schnepp said.
Your mother's name was Sarah.
I love Batman, he is one of my favorite characters, but it is a false equivocation John Campea made to compare a murderous Batman and the Avengers. None of the Avengers have ever claimed to be against killing. Rogers, Sam and Rhodey are professional soldiers, Tony is a dick who will kill a terrorist without hesitation, Bucky, Clint and Natasha are assassins, Thor tried to kill Captain America when they first met for christsake and Lang shrunk a man into dust. Comicbook Batman does not kill! It's not being a fanboy, it's wanting the characters to feel true!
true
+Plugged Scope Batman killed a lot of people in Batman Begins, and the no kill rule has applied to the majority of comics in the last 30 years. But you're right, Batman used a gun and killed in TDKR, but Miller also drew those panels between frequent breaks to bury his head in a pile of cocaine and breathe in deeply. So let's just chalk up that particular Batman to the excesses of the 80s. I want my Batman! Snyder is a glorified special effects artist, not an auteur. Give the JL to George Miller or literally anyone else.
+Timothy Cogan Gotta agree, Batman in BvS kill way more than Iron Man ever, and Iron Man has no standard against killing unlike Batman. Which is why Zack Sucker Punch Batman suck!
+baal blade right! And that being said, I thought Affleck did a great job playing, as internet celebrity man Nick Mason said, "a severely mischaracterized Batman!" If Snyder made Lincoln he would have made the titular character pro-slavery. He's like a less self-aware Michael Bay.
Well, try to remember that this movie's incarnation of Batman was deliberately based off the Miller Batman, who in the comics wasn't afraid to kill a few motherfuckers, and given the events of his life at this particular moment, it's easy to understand why he doesn't give a shit. Now, with that said, it's entirely possible that he could in fact reintroduce his no-kill policy, as one person mentioned didn't brand Luthor as a reflection to this change of character, who could very well be _less_ dark come Justice League and beyond since it's no longer about him.
Well as a European I've got 2 weeks to go.
If I stay this hard that long I'll need to see a Doctor.
...Strange
+SlothGiraffe No Way, I'll explode before November
+SlothGiraffe DOCTOR strange
+JMPHeinz 57
You are strange.
+FEBAGames i already....exploded after that trailer..jesus marvel is hitting big this year
Outside of Spider-Man, Marvel heroes are known to openly kill. Batman prides himself on not to kill in the comics. That's why it was such a big deal in BvS
yeah for the most part spiderman and daredevil are the only guys who aren't killers.
Braxton Brown Yup.
+Brenden Johnson watch daredevil season 2.
+Jamail -van Westering
I'm pretty sure that when they raided the Hydra base in AoU, they weren't knocking them out.
Except Daredevil
I had more fun and felt more emotion watching this review than I did watching BVS!
fuck off fanboy, you need a life
+Nav Seira Bahahahahaa
Marvel trollollollo!
+Relentless-Bulletstorm88 No, I'm familiar with this character. He literally does this on _every_ DC related video from trailers to news to off handed comments. If the title has DC/Marvel in it, he's there like Spectre, ready to incite his idiotic fanboy dribble to purposely garner attention to himself.
+SuperShanko
I like you, you are like the peacekeeper of the comment sections.
#RussoBrosForJusticeLeague
Agreed.
+Josh Harold FUCKING ZACK SNYDER MAN.... FUCK!!!! Get your shit together WB/DC
+Jeevan Ghataore *Miller for Justice League
They cant do both.
+t1gertank19 would work also
Civil war spoilers: Lincoln dies, Lee surrenders
hahahahahahaha
Zemo was awesome, his motivations were touching and in the end he acomplish his plan
I actually really liked ZEMO!
i can't be the only one....
zemo is awesome
+Darren Russell V He was a good villain imo, but he wasn't Zemo. He could have been called Bob and it wouldn't have changed anything.
***** I completely agree. His monologue about his family was brilliant and i bought into everything he'd done.
I felt he was integral to the Ironman-Winter soldier storyline and black panther's development as a character.
It was a near flawless film imo.
only little things bugged me like the location names across the screen in BLOCK LETTERS.
I also really enjoyed him for what he was. He had a pretty strong motivation and influenced how we see the perspective of iron man and black panther's motivation. Plus, Daniel Bruhls performance was great.
He is the only villain who defeated the avengers. And he is not some Norse god, alien or psycho roboto. He is a guy. Not even a super guy. A guy.
I actually loved Zemo as well.He had a very good motive as well
I actually really like the MCU version of Zemo. He's not only smart but also intimidating at certain times. Yet he also has a humanity that neither Malekith or Ronan ever had. That final scene with him and Black Panther was just pure dramatic goodness. If Marvel ever plan on making a Thunderbolts movie then they need to bring back Daniel Bruhl for the roll. This is a better Marvel villain than most, except Loki of course.
I had a nightmare last night it had something chasing me , it had C3PO's body and John Schnepp's head...
LOL
Come on, am I the only one who like Zemo? That character is a fucking evil mastermind!!
+AndreNY I liked Zemo, he was enough, very understated, but essentially the straw that broke the camels back
I actually loved zemo
I liked him.
i liked zemo because they made him human insted of a super villian type. he was doin shit because shit was done to him. i dont even really count him as a villian, he was a deeply pained, amd extremely crafty..man. ant it wasnt a bad thing. annnddd he didnt die like. more than most mcu villians. some secondary villians still remain in the mcu tho..one hint..gardains of the galaxy...somebody got away...
+AndreNY I liked him too. He was a LOT better than the Jok... I mean Lex Luther.
What ever happened to just comic book fans? To just gamers? Oh that's right fanBOYS! Men who act like children. I love both DC and Marvel. I have both PS4 and Xbox One. But in today's world, people just love to hate and bitch about everything, it's pathetic.
Quite.
+SAVAGE ELiTE89 -- It's not really all that pathetic. It's a marketing gimmick that works well for both of them. My comics collection, aside from other publishers, is about 66% Marvel and 33% DC -- but the DC books I own are some of my very favorites. Likewise, there is no question that DC makes more and better _animated_ movies. The simple fact is that, as far as live-action films go, DC is so far behind (and sucking so badly) that they may NEVER catch up. Won't stop me from enjoying their comics or animated features.
+Ben Culture "catch up", you're a moron. They don't need to catch up. They just need to do their own thing and do it right. If you were truly a neutral fan and not a fanboy, then you wouldn't be concerned with them "catching up" or even stating it as if it were a thing.
+Gabriel NR Except they're not in competition in the normal sense. When you go to the store to buy a cola flavored beverage you almost always have the choice of Coke or Pepsi. They are in direct competition with each other for your dollars. How many times have you been to the movies wanting to see a superhero film and had the choice of Marvel or DC? Pretty sure the answer would be never. WB isn't going to care that I'm going to pay money to see Civil War or if Marvel went out bust because they already got my money for BvS and they're not getting another cent out of me for that movie.
+Ben Culture I don't know, the original Superman movie and the first two Nolan Batman films are easily in the top 15 comic book adaptations ever
People aren't mad that Batman kills people. People are mad because murder strongly goes against his character. I understand that maybe this Batman has crossed the line at some point but we never see that. Plus, why would the Joker and the Suicide Squad still be alive?
Your argument that people had a problem with Batman killing but not the Avengers is moot. The Avengers have always been killers from the beginning. Cap was in WW2 where he killed countless people, Stark killed people to escape the cave in Ironman 1, Thor celebrates his victories in battle, Scarlet Witch started off as a villain, and so on. The Avengers have always been killers. Batman on the other hand had decades upon decades of reinforcing this idea that he doesn't kill. It's his one moral code and a major part of his characterisation that he's always on the line of right and wrong, and BvS crossed that line and threw all of that away without even so little as an explanation why.
+jake frost Bruh that conversation was over like two weeks ago...
I thought Batman v superman was a fantastic film. But im also very excited for Civil War because......you know...... you can enjoy both. I love BvS and hope i enjoy Civil War too.
Why limit yourself to one thing when you can enjky everything? :)
enjoy
My thoughts exactly
Ditto
+TheDarkestKnight97 There are some people who thought Green Lantern was a really good movie. Doesn`t stop it from being crap. And there`s nothing wrong with picking a side. You know Marvel is laughing their asses off at the bad reviews BvS is getting. It`s not even the number 1 movie anymore just in it`s third week being beat by The Boss.
Could not agree more! If you're a superhero fan, then I don't understand why you're not just smiling all of the time with everything out there from both DC and Marvel! BvS - Civil War - Strange - Daredevil - Arrow - Flash - Luke Cage - Suicide Squad - and on and on and on!
Spoiler Alerts: 24 days left 'til we see it.
+Two By Four Productions 15 here
+MecZ _ 😒
+Two By Four Productions April 27th where I live 😂
+sina madani April 27th for me too!
+sina madani same :)
I like the villain.
Especially in the theme of revenge: something that happened to three people in the movie.
Me too I thought he was great
He was a subtle and restrained villain with clear motivation and goals. Yeah, he wasn't some all-powerful dude in a giant mech suit or whatever but that was the whole fucking point.
The only villain to actually succeed and defeat the avengers. And he is not some god, alien or psycho robot. He has no army, he has no political/corporate backup. He is just a guy. Not even a super guy. A guy.
Stark, Black Panther & Zemo all had their own unique interactions to the tragedy of collateral damage and the vindictive inclinations they can provoke .
i know I am kind of off topic but does anyone know of a good site to stream new tv shows online ?
Poor BvS just can't catch a break.
+Dennis Boyd Because there are too many butthurt haters.
+kailash limbu disagree that is all on DC who marketed... This movie and built up the hype to be this epic huge movie and they couldn't deliver on the forefront.
Spidey Creations
That does not justify "if i hated it, you must hate it to" behaviors.
Hey John Campea. What is Hawkeye's stance on killing people? There's a difference from "heroes who kill" to "heroes who are known for hard-stances against killing, and instead they will kill".
Right
+J Vit (Posssser) Hawkeye does kill. That's his job. Just like Cap, Widow, Falcon.
EXACTLY
Nobody cares whether superheroes kill their enemies, we care about superheroes who are known to have a no-kill policy killing their enemies.
Batman and Superman have strongly established motivations to not kill anyone. Batman believes that the act of killing means that he would be no different from Joker. Superman believes that he has to be above everyone else, by showing that he will not abuse his power and just kill anyone, that he will show extreme levels of restraint to demonstrate that he is in control and will never the cross the line.
Cap, Ironman, Thor, they don't have any policy against killing, if they only kill villains nobody is against that.
I have the biggest grin on my face watching this review. I've never been more excited for a movie in my life. Except maybe The Force Awakens.
For me, the difference between the DC Murderverse and the Marvel stuff is that
1. The characters killing bad guys has never been an established rule. With Batman, we are so familiar with a character who refuses to murder because of what happened to his parents. That's never been a thing in the MCU.
2. The characters are held accountable for irresponsibility. Civil War is a whole movie about accountability, as opposed to Batman v. Superman, which we assumed there would be some accountability for Man of Steel. In Batman v. Superman, Batman is never held accountable for killing. Superman is close to having to answer for his recklessness, but right when there's some ideas and discussion about to be presented, Snyder literally inserts an explosion instead. And instead of Batman addresses his problems with Superman, we get the MARTHA scene.
Look, I love DC movies, and I love some of Snyder's films, but Batman v. Superman was intellectually inconsistent. And while I haven't watched Captain America: Civil War, it appears that this movie actually gets into the ideas and politics of these heroes in a consistent and coherent matter.
I agree totally with what you said, I actually laughed when you said DC murderverse lol
Naaaaaaa Zemo was better than malikieth and i liked him and yes he did hve purpose. That's just nit picking
+areki38 Exactly beautifully. The first theme throughout the movie was personal motivations. Cap bucky, zemo his family, iron man his past mistakes and family so Zemo fit in just right. Love these guys but they get carried away too much as if they had some input in the movie LOL
SPOILERS
Sorry Campea, but the villain WAS needed. Without him the conflict was already over before the end. It took the reveal to actually break the relationship between Tony and Steve. Nothing else would have done that.
I keep hearing people saying that Zemo was the worst part of Civil War and that he was superfluous to the overarching plot of the film, but I can't help but disagree! I thought he was an incredibly well developed character, who you actually sympathize him when you learn about his backstory.
I don't understand how these morons can say Zemo was "pointless" and didn't need to be in the movie. He made the movie half as good as it is.
Campea, i love you, but what the fuck.....of course we're fine with the Avengers murdering people.....because the Avengers didn't have their parents killed by criminals, and SWORE not to use guns, or take a life ever.....
+Leo That didn't happen to this Batman. Multiverse, son.
Cynima Rapscallion What didn't happen?
Leo He never said he swore never to use guns or kill. Did you see that in the movie? I didn't, and I payed attention.
Cynima Rapscallion It's in his character, we're really discussing this??....it's like if Spidey never says his famous line, he doesn't live by it??....dude...
Leo But not this character. It's in other Batmen in other universes. Not in this one. Hence my phrase "Multiverse, son."
There's a universe where Bruce dies, and Thomas wields guns and shoots bad guys. Sooooo pretty sure a universe where Batman BARELY even kills people, they just more get in his way, is completely fine. They never established IN THIS UNIVERSE, that he is like that.
Also, Spiderman never said it in the ASM movies, and it was totally fine.
I wish you would have talked a little more about the costumes development on the different heroes. The new costumes in this movie is amazing, they did a lot.
the way you guys talk about it, it doesn't appear to be just a great marvel movie but just a great movie in general
My main yard stick for a good comic book movie is re-watchability. Is it re-watchable?
I'm guessing so
Lmao
Same, I usually don't re-watch movies that I thought were alright, if they were average, o just delete them, but if they were above average, and I really enjoyed them, then I keep them for re-watching again in the future.
+winterwolf211
Why didn't you drag me with you? Wait, did you pay for the people you took?
To see that airport fight scene again if nothing else
I can't describe my anticipation for Civil War right now! I am so excited!!
that one car shot with falcon and winter soldier, it'll be a meme one day.
Marvel really needs to step up the game on their villains. This is the best review from Collider yet. May 6th needs to hurry the fuck up!
The Netflix shows help solve that problem.
Corey Adolfi Agreed.
+ca20mn Yeah Nobu was pretty expendable.
May 6th? Is coming on April 27th in Europe.
Everyone says Lokie is awesome but I really liked the first two Captain America movie villains more.
9.9? I feel like people are overhyping this, it better be amazing now or I'll probably be disappointed.
+DerangedDoom Go expecting a solid 8! Then if it is really amazing then it will be cool for you. It's not going to be bad we know that.
Nelson That's true, from all the reviews I expected BvS to be a 3 or 4 but I went in with low expectations and probably enjoyed the movie a bit more because of it.
+DerangedDoom probably not, but definitely 100th times better than Batman v Superman.
Seriously, the villain being a little weak and unnecessary is the only gripe they all have with the film? Damn.....must be an amazing movie!
Batman/Superman's no kill rule is nothing compared to Marvel's characters. The majority of them are okay with killing if necessary they just don't want to do it.
So it's a safe bet this movie is better than Batman v Superman?
My Top 3 are 1) Winter's Solider 2) Avengers 3) Iron Man ....
Any upcoming movie is better than BVS.
xmen 3 is better than bvs
The real question though is... Is it better than Deadpool? ;)
+TheGreatIce Breaker ghostbusters. Nuff said.
TheGreatIce Breaker Alice in wonderland through the looking glass may strongly disagree.
This was a spectacular review! A lot of depth. Also, these 4 guys did a great job letting each other get his point across. Half an hour and *no spoilers!* Well done.
Batman is stronger than superman!!
o shit it''s not in this movie
Batman killing is an issue for some people (not me) because it's part of his character's creed that he does not kill.
In contrast, Cap is a soldier: he kills people. IM killed people in IM1. Them killing is already established. But Batman NOT killing is what is normally established for his character.
It's not the act of killing that's the issue. It's whether that act is out of character. I mean, people die in Ghandi, but if Ghandi started killing people in that movie, I'd have a problem with it.
+ShadowCat Well said!
Civil War is great and that's great, no need for the DC bashing.
Weren't DC people saying that BvS was 'too smaart' for people who didn't like it? I agree that bashing both ways need stop, it's getting pretty redundant. All we should want are good movies from everyone. Good movies will only give us a greater movie experience.
Anthony McNeil What person working at WB/DC said that? Answer: no one, it was a ridiculous rumour started by the same people who said Suicide Squad were doing reshoots, because they wanted to add more jokes.
I'm a comic book fan and will always be one, and I want to see all the studios succeed. My favourite characters are Batman, Spidey, T'Chala and Storm. And if Todd MacFarlane can get the Spawn reboot going, it'll be the complete set for me. I wanna see them all done right, and I will support each studio unlike some "fans". This whole DC vs Marvel thing is such crap.
TheoKabala89 I was mainly talking about fanboys. They try to create a divide if people don't like a film or not and that's the problem. People need to realize that not everyone is going to like a movie. It is awesome being a comic book fan but it's the fanboys that cause the problems. If you were to bash BvS, people would bad mouth you and call you Marvel fanboy.
It's gotten to the point where you can't even be critical about a film.
I agree that if these companies make great movies then we will continue to get even greater movies but fans ruin that...more like *they are ruining that.*
Spidey is my favorite hero and I am excited for Spiderman: Homecoming (not my first name I would have picked) but to see him in high school is gonna be awesome.
+TheoKabala89 He was talking about DC fanboys not the people who worked on DC......
Let's not act like DC fanboys haven't been doing it for years now...
I appriciated the Zemo character a lot. His backstory doesn't get much screen time but it's interesting and functional to the overall plot, being a more "human" take on the main conflict of the movie. He's not a mustache twirling villain that wants some sort of superpower to become invincible. The movie makes you think so, and that makes it more impactful when his true agenda is revealed. Also, it's vital in driving the point of the movie home: Zemo becomes a monster by perpetrating vengeance against those who he hates (for very realistic reasons) but T'Challa breaks that circle of pain by sparing the life of the man responsible for his father's death. I think that's beautiful and really powerful. It gives Black Panther great depth even if it's his first appearance.
Exactly! That scene with him and Black Panther gave me goosebumps. It was one of my favorite moments in the movie as well as when he showed the video of Starks parents murder and the fight between Captain America and IronMan.
The villain was relevant. Maybe you have to watch it a second time to understand it fully.
Great movie, rushed ending. 10/10 👍🏾
I disagree. He was pretty one note and he didn't need to be there. Cap and Iron Man would have fought anyway. I understand his motive but I just didn't care any time he came on screen
+Josh Dixon I did care. He was the one responsible for Bucky being brainwashed and had he not, than Bucky never would have caused that accident. And that is why Captain America is standing up for him, because he knows that Bucky was brainwashed.
He also had a big influence on setting up Black Panther.
+RP sure he did something important. But it was pretty predictable. He never came off as menacing. I just feel that the conflict would have arose anyway. People would have wanted Bucky arrested anyway because of his actions as The Winter Soldier. Plus, they could have tied Black Panther's father in with the Sokovia incident or during the fight with Crossbones. Him dying in either place would have still brought BP into the fold. It just seemed, to me at least, that Zemo was brought in purely so there would be a big bad for them to catch.
+Josh Dixon I see your point, but I don't fully agree. This villain is a weak one, primarily because he is just a man with no real powers. The heroes have very good reasons to be one against the others, but they tend not to fight because they balance their distaste / mistrust for each other with the sense that there are worst enemies out there. What Zemo does is to demonstrate them that they are the enemies they were looking for. His motivation is a good one, as it is the same motivation all other characters have during the movie (e.g. the black lady early in the movie talking to Stark, or General Ross, or other characters), so he in fact incarnates the "collateral damage problem" that is always ignored in many of these movies, and is at the core of all CW. I really don't think it was a bad idea to have one single character taking his vengeance against the Avengers for the very reason they are being checked by Ross. One thing the Russos could have done maybe better, could have been enfatizing Zemo's POV in the end, with some kind of touching speach that could balance our heroes egotistic fights for their "best friend's left arm", vs all the really innocent dead people they leave behind without a second thought.
I agree with you. Without getting into spoiler territory, the way they used him (esp at the end) was essential to the movie. It took the conflict to a new level. Sure, Cap and Tony had differences that made them butt heads, but Zemo played a big role.
Wilson Fisk from Daredevil is a Good Villain, Kill-grave is a good villain in Jessica Jones.. the rest... meh.
Loki is the best
Baron zemo: best, most fleshed out, most sympathetic villian of the MCU
By far
Fuck waiting 3 more weeks to see this! I'm glad the Collider crew got an early viewing but this sucks having to wait. AHHHH!!!!!!
I think they don't know that Zemo is just being introduced here for future installments. I can stomach him being wasted as long as he doesn't die like every other Marvel villian.
"They nailed Black Panther" That was all I needed. This is Phase 3. This is Marvel.
I'm am dying to see this film good gracious. I want to know what happens but I don't want spoilers but I do, I'm so confused and excited. This is seriously driving me crazy, I need to see this movie. Come sooner!
Campeas DOES NOT get it. Cap's a soldier, Iron Man fights terrorists, killing isn't a big deal. But seeing Batman do it goes against the character.
I thought this villain was actually quite good. Zemo was born out of the Avengers actions. He represents consequences. And the victims finally fighting back against the avengers. His plan was odd yes, but I'll be honest, Joker's plan did not make sense in Dark Knight. There's no way he could plan ahead that much and foresee characters actions. But what made Joker great were his motivation and how he affected the character of Batman down to his core. I believe Zemo did that in this movie. Honestly, I think he's very underrated and one of the best Marvel villains.
also, I'm not comparing Zemo to Joker in terms of character. They're quite different.
Schnepp's feelings on the film are closest to mine. What a great film.
I came back 2 years later just to watch Schnepp yell “AIRPORT SCENE!!!” 😭
I'm so pissed that they showed it so early cause now I'm so hyped and it comes out in 3 weeks
They wanted to get there reviews out early so people know it's good. It makes sense when you have confidence. BvS took a long time for reviews to come out and we know how that turned out.
God, I've been waiting for this review so much!!!!
From Kazachstan?
+Kostja Vastenhout from Kazakhstan
As much I loved BvS, how in the world did a movie with Batman and Superman not able to even reach 1 billion worldwide? Like, DC needs to get their shit together.
+Shivom Dixit I know, right? Making BvS a well-written, massive blockbuster seems like it should be really easy. They had the two best superheroes ever created in one movie, plus Wonder Woman, and they couldn't do it
+Kaleb Webb . I agree besides that it was well written. Whilst DC are my favourite comic book publisher their live action isn't up to par with Marvel (excluding Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy).
Shnizzels McBiggles Oh, I was saying that it should've been easy to write a really good BvS movie, but they managed to write it terribly
mickey rock I actually think basing it off of Dark Knight Returns was a big mistake in the first place. DKR is set in this cynical, dark alternate future of 1986. It's almost nightmarish how bad things in Gotham get in DKR. Not really a great setup for the second movie in the big expanded DC universe
Campea: RE Batman killing vs Avengers killing: A big character point of the Avengers and the other heroes aren't their staunch no-killing policy. Not killing is a large part of Batman. THAT'S the difference.
That exactly why I read batman comics he has one of the strongest moral codes in comics. That's a big reason why he doesn't see himself the same as the joker. Ppl are all saying read the dark night well ok your telling me to read one series out of all the other great series's and say it's ok?? No that's bullshit. that's not my batman.
The film sounds great. Chris Evans has always been underrated as an actor, just take another look at his performances in "Sunshine" and "Snowpiercer" if you don't believe. I can understand now why DC/Warner moved the release date of BVSS, They must have realized Marvel had something special planned for this film.
08:00 - I know exactly what side I am on, the same one I have always been on, Captain America's side.
I wonder if the end credits scene is another Thanos scene with him preparing to get ready....still
Probably either Thor, guardians of the galaxy or spiderman. I've heard there might be 3 so yeah.....
but now instead of putting his guanlet on , he is getting his spaceship on
BEST FIGHT EVER Martha vs. Aunt May
Given this glowing review, I lament the fact that directors, of the caliber of the Russo brothers, did not do a movie like Batman V Superman. Given how iconic and seminal both of those characters are to the comic book genre, they deserve the masterful treatment that the directing duo gave to the both Captain America: Winter Soldier and, based on this review, to Captain America: Civil War. I am so looking forward to seeing this film so that I can forget the disappointment I felt when watching Batman V Superman.
Difference between people hating Batman killing, and any of the avengers killing is that Batman, the classic idea version of the character that everyone modernized, has the no kill policy. No one in the Avengers has a problem with killing as far as I'm aware. Ironman kills a slew of people in his first movie. Steve is a soldier; he kills if need be like Superman did in Man of Steel. The only ones we know that don't are Daredevil and possibly Spider-man.
People generally look for the classic base of the character which is a big reason people didn't care for Jessie's Lex in BvS, Batman killing, or even Superman killing in Man of Steel.
Just got back from watching this movie and all I can say that it is the best MCU movie I have ever seen! Black Panther was the showstopper in this movie. Tom Holland's potryal of spidey was something straight out the comic books! The banter and wit that this Peter Parker/ Spider-Man reminded me of the Fox Kid's Animaited show. Tom just nailed it as spidey and I can't wait for Homecoming! My only gripe with this Spider-man is that the costume looks so fake and computerised. You can legit tell that most of it, if not all of it was all CG. I liked the overall look of it but it just looked kinda off and looked like it was off a video game. I just wish we got a real costume like Toby and Anderew did cause both those costume were awesome! Hopefully, he'll get an upgrade in Homecoming.
A soild 8.5/10 for me. :)
everyone going after campea comparison to BvS killing... and you all would be right, except they all know Batman broke his no killing rule after the death of Robin. So it's actually a very apt comparison, plus the fact that we all are discussing this particular issue means DC got it right. DC is the "real world" universe, where people dying actually means something. MCU death is on the periphery (except if a hero dies,,,and then they come back lol)
you got a point there I think in a real world sense it going to be even harder to do a no kill rule Batman could try but there going to be times where he should kill to either save himself or to save somebody
+Carter Lion -- Uh,. what the fuck movie did YOU watch last month?
Superman doesn't even stay dead long enough to be BURIED.
Please.
Differece between the characters in this film killing and Batman killing is that Batman has a no-kill rule yet these characters don't.
Batman doesn't have a no kill rule in The dark knight returns which is the batman he's based on
Btw no one dies in civil war
+Archangel760 Ur pathetic dude. seriously. hahaha
Archangel760 I didn't have a problem with Batman killing in BvS, just sayin that Campea is wrong about the Avengers no-kill rule he implied. Plus already seen Civil War like 4 days ago man, so I already knew before this comment. Nice try though.
PesciGotPepsi haha. He has been going on all youtube comments and trying to ruin the movie for people.
Black Panther Hype!! Hearing all this great stuff and knowing that Ryan Coogler is directing his solo. Can't wait to watch this over and over in theaters.
This is one hell of a movie.. Enjoyed every second of it. That Black Panther and Spider Man introductions are awesome. Marvel has set the bar high for themselves. So intelligently written, and directed.
Spoiler alert, the north wins the civil war
I just saw the movie and I think it's safe to say that civil war is the best marvel movie ever!!!!
Whoa!
Schnepp: 9.9/10!!!!
Christian: 9/10
Campea: 9/10
Dennis: 9.3/10
Jesus Marvel! Somebody gotta be envious. Just the positive words of mouth going to steroid the box office. But then again, it is Winder Soldier director.
+B-dawg8504 Nope, there is no such thing as momentum, in the end it's words of mouth, words of mouth, and positive words continue help movie grow negative words plague the movie.
Can we please get John on a Movie Talk some time soon? Maybe he could be a guest every so often? Once or twice a month maybe?
You guys are describing Civil War better than I ever dared to dream it could be! So happy to watch this review -- thanks for no spoilers! We needed and deserved this movie to be THIS good. Can't wait to see it! Great review, guys.
May 5th I forever from now.
Seen the movie i must say i was a bit dissapointed it was overhyped i think its a better movie than age of ultron but not winter soldier 8/10 after this movie i want spidey solo movie now sadly my excitement level for infinity war droped from 10 to 6
+Radagast Brown it is a good movie though! i also expected it to be better due to all the hype but it wasn't bad at all. I'm excited to see what the Russo bros will do with IW 1-2.
+Radagast Brown time to say Bucky.. he is not the only Winter Soldier
I wanted to see the rest of Winter Soldiers in action against The Avengers who were there! that would've been dope as well :D
+elmarce1983 what do you mean?
You clearly haven't seen it. Everything was incredible. Black Panther and Spider-Man were incredibly compelling characters, the source material was incredible and everything good from Winter Soldier was in here!
Idk why people are bringing up BVS that movie was great but this video isn't about BVS this is about civil war.
THANK YOU, BVS IS OLD NEWS
+Evan Edmiston BVS did a great job i still love it but right now civil war is about to come out then xmen and then suicide squad. You get what I mean.
thaderpydog I know, I really liked BvS, I get you though
Doubt this will top Batman V Superman for me, but I'm still super stoked to see it.
Love the review but I couldn't disagree more about Zemo as the villain. I thought everything about his plot made sense and he was a different type of villain for a Marvel movie
I really really liked the villain Zemo
+podgedurka As did I. He was very understated which greatly benefited the character. He isn't hammy or over the top but instead an intelligent, cunning, shadowy figure who does everything out of a very human motivation. Not to mention, he technically wins in the end.
+William Anderson Being a no named, regular old soldier that Zemo was what made it deliver more impact. I think he said it best, "Attack an empire from the outside, even if the empire falls, they will rise up stronger. But an attack from the inside, it means death."
kickassssnation027 Exactly. Hardcore comic book fans will obviously be pissed about the changes made to his character but because they greatly benefit the story here; I had no problems with them doing a new take on Helmut Zemo.
ign has this movie rated at a 7.8 the lowest review currently out.....i checked out the dude that reviewed it and he gave man of steel a 9.......a fucking 9
Don't trust IGN reviews
+Luis Navarro lol
For movies I mean.
+Luis Navarro IGN in general is pretty shitty when it comes to reviews.
+Luis Navarro yea they suck but at least its still fresh rating
the wait is killing me 29/04 cant come soon enough
+twistoffate314 same
well fuck me because in spain it comes out 6/5
Andrea Carmona whooaaaa well that aint fair at all
DC fan here. The thing with Batman and Superman is they have a "no kill" morality code. They might not have it in Snyder's movies, because Snyder is a closeted sociopath (just listen to his interviews), but in almost every other interpretation of the characters, they do. Except in some extreme scenarios like that stupid Injustice game/comic, or Miller's DKR. That's why some people are upset with Superman and Batman killing. Specially with Batman using guns (certainly a no-no for Batman, despite what a handful of issues from 1939 might want you to believe).
Marvel characters, generally, don't have a "no killing" code. Captain America fought in a war, and is a soldier. Iron Man was involved with selling weapons. Thor is a warrior god. Hulk is a monster. Wolverine. Punisher. Black Widow. Hawkeye. The only major Marvel character that truly avoids killing might be Spider-Man.
As for the rest of the main Justice Leaguers, Wonder Woman should be the only one that can find justification in killing when necessary. Green Lanterns (Hal, John, Kyle, Guy, etc.) should not kill, as the Oan Guardians wont approve of that. Flash (Barry or Wally) no kill. Aquaman?... Hmm, maybe you rationalize a warrior-king having to take a life on occasion. MMH nope.
+magnumcornetto Zack Sucker Punch mistakening he's making Watchment 2, that's the reason why.
Baron Zemo could have been there for a future film like how Brock R. wasn't the biggest villain in winter soldier but then he came back as cross bones in Civil war and helped a lot with what we think starts the Winter Soldier and Black Panther convlict
Civil war is marvel taking a giant dump on BvS
let's be honest dc and marvel are great and civil war and batman v superman are fantastic movies
+TheAvatarYoshi because jokes
+Kaz Kinnikuman no because people actually like good movies
Nah. Batman v Superman is extremely disappointing.
+lego panda customs from everything I have heard from Civil War it's on a completely different level than BvS...
+Spidey Creations because lame humor and lame villains make a good movie
the avengers is basically super sentai with a bigger budget
Finally seen it. Best marvel movie 10 out of 10. Go watch it people
I saw the movie tonight and I though Zemo was not a waste AT ALL. This is a superhero vs superhero movie but I feel it was still necessary to have someone who pushes the confilc even further and thats what Zemo does. I don't know what you mean by saying his plans had no sense because that fight at the end between Cap, Iron Man and Bucky happens because of what Zemo had planned before (minor spoiler), and I think it worked perfect. I can't wait to see it again so I can give my final score but I loved it. As for now its a 9.5/10 for me.
+Darwin G Good to hear about Zemo. It seems like these guys were so focused on the heroes that they didn't care remotely for Zemo.
Who else wishes they could see advanced screenings like the collider crew. Too bad I don't live in L.A....
So far, it has an average rating of 9.5/10 on RT. So fucking pumped. Can't wait for May 5th
swanpride Still a great score
+Parth Taneja because it is a good movie.
If you want an actual spoiler review, skip past minute 21. Cuz they do fucking spoil it.
+jared chenklov - thanks
+jared chenklov Besides the mentioning who the villain is? And don't spoil it for me if it is something else.
No one dies in civil war
+jared chenklov thats why I avoid stuff until after the movie it is usually campea that spoils then the others join suit no such thing as a spoiler free review LOL I just watch the movie then come back and watch these after
Saw it, loved it, still cant get over how good it was :D :O
I actually don't agree about the part that Luthor had no motivation compared to Zemo. If you pay enough attention to him then you get why he did what he did. Having seen Civil War earlier, Zemo just weighed the movie down and I agree that the movie would have been perfectly fine without him. The same cannot be said for Luthor and BvS (regardless of whether you liked it or not.)
Different characters have different moral codes, Campea. Of course the likes of Cap and Iron Man kill, but that doesn't mean it's fine for say Batman and Daredevil to kill.
FUN FACT: The director of Civil War, Joe Russo is the dead guy in the bathtub.
John Campea is a god
why do people act like batman dragged a bad guy out his car and slit his throat lol
with the way i keep hearing about murder batman lol
People are pussies
I dont agree with you guys, Zemo was really good, but i dont get it how he got info about winter soldier base and mission report from 1991. They didn't do great villains but Red Skull wasn't just a plot device, Hugo was great
I am the most hardcore DC fan and Civil War is the best comic book movie I have ever seen , The Winter Soldier and now this has put me on the Marvel band wagon , if you truly believe The Avengers is as good or better then Civil War then your just wrong , The Avengers is cheesy , overrated and I'm sick of people praising it , I believe Suicide Squad will be great still but I also believe that Civil War is a better SUPER HERO movie than The Dark Knight but not a better over all movie , this movie is a masterpiece
+Justin Alves haven't seen Cival War yet but I thought Winter Soldier was way better then both Avengers movies. I can't wait to see Cival War this week