Wizard101| Why Crowns Reward Events Are A HUGE Problem

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024

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  • @Zaepha
    @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +30

    Alright, fess up people - which of you already splurged to get the bamboo wand or imp bumper car? But seriously, do you think these events are fair or predatory overall? I’d love to get a discussion going.

    • @Nihilitty
      @Nihilitty 9 місяців тому +14

      The only max reward that's worth it to me personally is the extra character elixir since that's the only way to get more after purchasing one, but it still doesn't sit right with me the option to just buy it again for normal price isnt there, instead of essentially having to spend 100$ to get a new character spot on the same account.

    • @saehtnyS
      @saehtnyS 9 місяців тому +11

      def predatory
      they know what they're doing by adding a wand and perm imp car that doesn't exist anywhere else to incetivise people to spend an insane amount of crowns on them
      they've always done it for crown rewards but usually have somewhat ok or decent rewards, this time was INSANEY out of touch imo
      thanks for another great video on telling KI off
      hopefully they listen 😭

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +4

      @@saehtnyS This event was def particularly bad - which makes me nervous they'll continue down this route in the future. Guess we'll have to see.

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +8

      @@Nihilitty Exactly - it's great to have that extra character slot, but they should just offer you the option to buy more than 1 from the normal crowns shop rather than forcing you to spend such a crazy amount of money 😥

    • @mrpacifism209
      @mrpacifism209 9 місяців тому +6

      Yes i totally agree with this... I have definitely splurged when i saw the additional character slot in the past. Even though i havent actually used those extra slots... yet.
      Maybe in another few years I'll have made my way over to my 8th and 9th wizard. @@Zaepha
      THIS crowns reward event is lame

  • @squirrelstar051
    @squirrelstar051 9 місяців тому +41

    The only way I could ever see anything like this working without being a predatory mess, is if this event was running year-round.
    Sure, 80k crowns in a year? Lot of people do that with all the new crowns stuff and... deals... they throw out. I personally don't spend that much in a year EVER on this game myself.
    But 80k in a week? That is insane.

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +11

      You're absolutely right. I would have way less problems with these types of events if they lasted several months or longer for sure.

    • @jdizzledaplaya2986
      @jdizzledaplaya2986 9 місяців тому +4

      It's just more of KI's infamous extortion & blackmail to pressure you to get the rewards before they are gone for good.

  • @danicalifornia985
    @danicalifornia985 9 місяців тому +18

    i’m so glad you’re speaking up about this! i was so tantalized when i saw the imp bumper car perm but couldn’t get over the fact that almost NO other real incentives were offered? i’ve seen so many of these rewards events where actually exclusive gear has been offered as well as hoard / lore packs, but this one is outright predatory! hoping ki redoes the event with ACTUAL good rewards, but i have little faith 🙃

    • @SammyJoFinn
      @SammyJoFinn 9 місяців тому

      I want to say this which may or may not end up being true but the prismatic cat and winter owl mounts were featured in an SOF 2 years before they got perm versions just in the crown shop and the 80,0000c swan boat was a crown reward exclusive before it came to the crown shop for a measly 4,000c a year or two later. The imp bumper car might eventually come back in a more affordable way if you can just hold out. It might not though so it's really more of a "can i wait for this?" "if it never comes back will i cry" kinda thing

  • @shawnc292
    @shawnc292 9 місяців тому +13

    Honestly other MMOs respect my time and wallet more than wiz does... its a sad state the games are in rn and I hope it changes soon!

    • @user-tu7kn9ug7s
      @user-tu7kn9ug7s 9 місяців тому

      Can you suggest any that are similar to wizard, simple games that don't require lots of clicking, nor speed and reactions? Thanks ahead

  • @Miss_Sylvie
    @Miss_Sylvie 9 місяців тому +9

    A while back, I bought the Arch Angel robe with gold. Yeesh!

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +1

      I thought I remembered once being able to buy it for gold too but I couldn't totally remember so that makes it even worse!

    • @user-tu7kn9ug7s
      @user-tu7kn9ug7s 9 місяців тому +1

      I'm not certain but I think you are mixing it up with the Gladiators or Guardians outfit is for gold, I forget which but it has similar robe for girls

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +2

      Might be the Guardians robe!

    • @Miss_Sylvie
      @Miss_Sylvie 9 місяців тому

      @@user-tu7kn9ug7s probably. thanks

  • @AskMaxwell
    @AskMaxwell 9 місяців тому +10

    I could get you so much real bamboo for 60 dollars, make all the wands you want!

  • @djkang9222
    @djkang9222 9 місяців тому +8

    I think it would be nice if the rewards value is closer to the value of how much crowns you would spend.

  • @rachaelkennedy3071
    @rachaelkennedy3071 9 місяців тому +31

    It's just difficult to understand how KI, a well established company, can continue to make such blatantly avoidable blunders. Players understand that KI is a for profit company and they need to make money to keep the game going, but this feels like a slap in the face instead of a reward for doing the very thing KI needs players to do. Spend actual money on the game.

  • @lucassilverblade913
    @lucassilverblade913 9 місяців тому +5

    Preach Zaepha! KI is all about that money. Thank you for pointing this out and maybe saving some new players from wasting their hard-earned dollars on items they can get for FREE or way less in game

  • @TheRevivist
    @TheRevivist 9 місяців тому +3

    Does anyone remember back in 2018 of November, I think it was the first ever crowns reward event that offered the infamous $700 Night Dragon mount after spending a whopping 550,000 crowns!?! When I saw this I knew KI was just pure scum. I still enjoy the game don't get me wrong but man this company is something else. What's crazy is some of the lower tiers, for example tier 4 was offering 2 1 hour double pet xp elixirs after spending 8,800 crowns. I think that's an awesome bonus! Nothing too weak and nothing too strong. They also offered double gardening elixirs and whatnot. I hate crowns events because I do sometimes fall victim to them.

  • @bwybwy5392
    @bwybwy5392 9 місяців тому +5

    As a f2p player, I used the little crowns I have saved up to buy the aerial jungle from empyrea, and got an energy elixir on top of that. To me, it's relatively ok. 2k crowns for a farming location and an energy elixir on top of that. However, anything else seems so not worth it.

  • @wolfhatfacts
    @wolfhatfacts 9 місяців тому +5

    zaepha out here saving the world

  • @kukki2666
    @kukki2666 9 місяців тому +6

    Glad to say. I will not be buying. And I pray no one else does. My biggest concern is that they will start putting permanent scroll of fortune Mounts behind paywalls moving forward after this one.

    • @user-tu7kn9ug7s
      @user-tu7kn9ug7s 9 місяців тому

      Well they did Scroll exclusive gear in a recent event, so it's clear this is heading.

  • @meanmochalatte
    @meanmochalatte 9 місяців тому +7

    This was a really great video as always! I definitely agree with having an open dialogue about this topic. Clearly at the end of the day, both sides, KI and gamers, want the game to be successful, so that starts with having in game features we can all be proud of! Hopefully this event will be a lesson learned for KI during the coming winter holiday season.

    • @SH_187
      @SH_187 9 місяців тому

      It doesn't look very apparent on KIs side they want the game to be successful when they do absolute complete bullshit like this. Not to mention how uttery out of touch they are in every other aspect of things. It's a shame tbh.

    • @SammyJoFinn
      @SammyJoFinn 9 місяців тому

      considering the 700$ scooters i don't think they care

  • @sonnieaaron
    @sonnieaaron 9 місяців тому +6

    Another scam! OH NO! Welcome to the 21st Century. Even just spending the little I can affort got me criticized for spending ANY money on it at all when I first started. Better to get a dog, they said. I spend a lot less on W&P101 in a year (before bugeting) than I spent on a senior dog I adopted in the 9 months I had her. No, I didn't give up either game. And yes! I can compare the return on my money. The only uneven part is KI doesn't kiss me no matter how good I play! Zaepha, keep up the good work! You're a voice of reason in the cacophony!

  • @wolfhatfacts
    @wolfhatfacts 9 місяців тому +5

    im a whale i spend about 100k crowns a month helping friends and randoms with wishlist stuff and packs occasionally, i dont think this event is worth in the slightest

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +4

      You know it's bad when the whales agree this is predatory 🤣like, people should spend money however they want, but you should at least be getting some actual VALUE back for your money.

    • @wolfhatfacts
      @wolfhatfacts 9 місяців тому +3

      @@Zaepha yeah and the crown jumps from 2000 to about 40,000 just to get something that is minor in the crown shop is absolutely ridiculous… I feel like they might lose players if they don’t start bringing back some super crown sales or just start giving stuff away like these other games

  • @saehtnyS
    @saehtnyS 9 місяців тому +5

    another W zaepha video
    rip KI a new one!

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +1

      On it 😉

  • @Krispe
    @Krispe 9 місяців тому +2

    I was going to spend a ton of crowns on packs to get the Sinbad gauntlet so I was waiting for a crown event to trigger. The crown events are a total scam but it just was a mediocre bonus to crowns already being spent. I totally agree with you that this is predatory and needs to change, but it's KI, so I won't get my hopes up. Great video!

  • @Jyrus_JD
    @Jyrus_JD 9 місяців тому +4

    I love the idea of the crown rewards because I’m not going to say no to free bonus stuff but this crowns reward should have more exclusive stuff, I usually splurge on crowns during Halloween and Christmas so getting some stuff while splurging for stuff but I do agree with the scrolls of fortune perm mounts should be in the crown shop. However I will say I still remember the first Crowns Rewards with that I think 750k crowns reward for that mount.

    • @jdizzledaplaya2986
      @jdizzledaplaya2986 9 місяців тому +1

      Oh yes I remember that infamous crowns reward event. Blow through $300 to get the scooter. Wow, KI must been really smokin & snortin everything on the ground they can find, they were on all the goods with that 1

  • @SH_187
    @SH_187 9 місяців тому +2

    All of us veteran players should get together and file a joint lawsuit to KI for false marketing, preditory behaviors/ actions, and anything else we can come up with. This is some out of this world next level bullshit.

    • @MediaLover2023
      @MediaLover2023 3 місяці тому

      I'm with you on that, it's ridiculous.

  • @128chris
    @128chris 9 місяців тому +2

    This video is exactly what I said also. Girl you really hit the nail on the head with this one 10/10

  • @ZACandCODYinferno
    @ZACandCODYinferno 9 місяців тому +2

    im a veteran player and ever since they added the hoard packs the game has went downhill in the sense of how crown items are prices and how " exclusive" gear is handled.
    Most of w101s profit isnt from the memberships, its clearly the hoard packs and all this new attempts with the crown bundles and now crown reward event things.
    I play other games and tbh the battle passes give much more rewarding items than w101 does and it kinda pisses me off a little. I hate to see how the game i grew up with and spent over 5k hours on over the years just to shit on its playerbase with shitty items that end up costing the player basically 60 bucks for nothing.
    Someone at KI needs to revaluate items and how each are given out etc because this is just sad to see. If they argue that there isnt many items they can give out then why not just keep creating more and new cosmetic that seem worth while?
    You have had amulets that gave off effects since like AGES...why not expand upon that so the player can have cool effects? The teleport effects were a good step in the right direction until of course..they lock it behind some dumb things.
    Idk it just urks me to see rewards be given in the battle pass or these crown reward things and they give you like a reagent or an elixir thing and it just feels like a slap to the face and doesnt even look or seem worth trying to even do or get because all you are getting is shitty items that not that many ppl care about in the end
    sry for my long rant, i love the game but i really hate how predatory it has become and they have no excuse to just keep letting it go on and on and on
    If they have lack of rescources then they should hire people that can make new models of items etc

    • @user-tu7kn9ug7s
      @user-tu7kn9ug7s 9 місяців тому

      I love the money I save on mount bundles with mega snack packs KI. *rolls eyes* No KI it costs us more for junk I don't need and don't start me on 30k pet bundles ugh.

  • @bankait_rex1860
    @bankait_rex1860 9 місяців тому +2

    In reality, I think it's actually a good thing , they do not have to put anything and you still will waste your crowns on crap anyway, however I do think that they should offer better rewards as the more you spend. People will spend if they want something, and it's actually a brag as we all do in mmos that everyone wants a unique thing, reason why people still want the white stripe tiger mount, so in reality my only issue here is the rewards been very crappy, that simple, think about it they can just say fck it and take it off and people will get 0.

  • @ashavandoyon9369
    @ashavandoyon9369 9 місяців тому +1

    sometimes the rewards are worth it. sometimes they aren't. Some players will spend like water to get that mount because they think its cool. Others will say, well it is cool, but just not cool enough for me to spend THAT much. When they had the winter event a few years ago with the snowflake snowmobile, I spent for that one for my ice wizard - and got an extra character slot too. That was worth it to me. This one isn't. But it will be for someone else, and that's okay.

  • @ItzKing-2006
    @ItzKing-2006 9 місяців тому

    I was so iffy about this I’m glad you made a video about it I knew I couldn’t be the only one who took a glance at this event and instantly said or thought *Ripoff*

  • @user-tu7kn9ug7s
    @user-tu7kn9ug7s 9 місяців тому +2

    The rewards spending should be over a much longer time period like 3 months rather than 7 days. I very rarely buy crowns but spent 20k crowns in the 7days before the event, actually 18k the night before which nets me nothing. I'll also be buying Wallaru I'm guessing about 10k crowns next week after this even ends, thanks KI 30+k crowns either side of the event and I'll get nada, for a good chunk spent. For me a lot of real money, the only personal satisfaction is most of the items are crap. What is with those rockhammer packs? I do deckathlon and always get junk they are maybe worth 400 GOLD not Crowns.. One thing I don't like is the wand is a picture, imagine going for that and find out it looks like doodoo!

  • @mattgibney4085
    @mattgibney4085 9 місяців тому +2

    Not only it require you to spend $100 to actually finish it, but the rewards from it is hilariously bad.

  • @ayearonlive
    @ayearonlive 9 місяців тому +1

    Idk as predatory as it is i will say i used to be a fomo for this game since 2008 until i realised how bad it was (i spent 50k) i havent spent the same way in wiz since i mostly spend now to just get pets made or stitching and or sockets but yes i agree these are very predatory towards new players with a wallet and experienced players who dont want to fomo

  • @LucyAdroit
    @LucyAdroit 9 місяців тому

    I always end up inadvertently getting some items from there, but I don't go out of my way to go for anything.

  • @mahasajenkins1
    @mahasajenkins1 9 місяців тому +1

    Ki will never change. They been doing this a long time.

  • @YuhPaul
    @YuhPaul 9 місяців тому +1

    I been playing since 2009 & I honestly dont know what I would spend 80k crowns on tbh. Like it’ll be a huge waste just to get that max tier on the event

  • @Bigtoejoe696
    @Bigtoejoe696 2 дні тому

    "Reward" is an interesting way to word it

  • @mechominecraft
    @mechominecraft 9 місяців тому +1

    whats worse is i just spent 60k crowns before this promotion

  • @ExoArcher
    @ExoArcher 9 місяців тому +2

    Tested this morning, scroll of fortune crowning does count also

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому

      Interesting! Didn’t know that counted.

    • @ashavandoyon9369
      @ashavandoyon9369 9 місяців тому

      @@Zaepha everything counts, including unlocking zones for players who use crowns to do so.

  • @chaozgaming8565
    @chaozgaming8565 9 місяців тому +1

    See, the worst thing is, these aren't physical items. They're digital goods, of already existing items/models in the game. The only unique thing is the dumb bamboo staff. They think low effort items are worth 100+ dollars.
    Just remember their Night-Knight event where they tried to resell you the entire set for 700 dollars.
    Value is subjective, but this game keeps demanding it's players to spend hundreds of dollars every month for absolute no-effort items. It's not like KI are making new assets. They're reusing them. The difference between a pack of cards at my store and a pack in Wizard101 is, the physical cards I get can have actual value later in life. Wizard101 is digital reused content that has zero value long term.
    Edit: So... There's something I've noticed recently with their new Wallaru world if you pay attention to the story of the sidequests. The more I read, the more upset I get. It's so... Bitter. They keep telling stories about how "corporate greed is bad", theres a quest mocking things like "Rehashing old content" (Remember those smoke fog bosses?), and entire quests dedicated to mocking the player's exploits in the game... It all REEKS of Hypocrisy.
    They continue to mock their playerbase, and saying greed is bad, while trying to sell you the idea of blowing 100$/week is okay.
    Kingsisle, how about you LOOK in a mirror for a second!

  • @Zatchbell66
    @Zatchbell66 9 місяців тому

    I usually complete crown rewards randomly when they release new packs with awesome mounts

  • @TigerLily408
    @TigerLily408 9 місяців тому +3

    The design of this event is very poor… nonsensical. I wonder if this could be considered exploitation of new members?

  • @crazedmancer2122
    @crazedmancer2122 9 місяців тому +3

    Ha when I click the button it makes my computer crash maybe doing me a favor idk

    • @user-tu7kn9ug7s
      @user-tu7kn9ug7s 9 місяців тому

      yep happens everytime and they should fix it.

  • @michaelheart1016
    @michaelheart1016 9 місяців тому

    The ones that gave extra character elixer 😩

  • @prestostorm2876
    @prestostorm2876 9 місяців тому

    saving my crowns for a better crowns reward event

  • @user-qn9vb8yy1i
    @user-qn9vb8yy1i 9 місяців тому +3

    Not even remotely interested in spending on any of this.

  • @jo-hk3vw
    @jo-hk3vw 9 місяців тому

    yeah i wont lie. i dont partake in the events bc i dont see it as rewarding tbh. the video perfectly talks about it. Just never really felt any value thought is free i guess. Its not like we all dont pay memberships every month for this dodo they bring.

  • @des802
    @des802 9 місяців тому

    and yet all complaints are null n void because i've seen people drive around in these
    i saw people going around in that boat last time.
    a common augment is it doesn't affect the game if people spend money on things like this but it does.
    for the first time kingsile didn't release the whole world (wallaru) because they didn't finish it
    gear and dungeons missing, delayed for another few months.
    more money comes from poeple that buy lootboxes and things like FOMO (fear of missing out)
    why would they focus the dev team on making another world when they can make a bumper car
    and get way more money for it?
    do a bit of research and you'll find that companies don't even call these people players they call them payers
    i bet in a few more years we won't even be getting a world a year anymore.

  • @aleczika9187
    @aleczika9187 9 місяців тому

    Why do they do these things? Do they not know what players want or like? Do they do these on purpose?

  • @Knoxsinn
    @Knoxsinn 9 місяців тому

    Is it crowns shop only purchases? Stitching, buying zones, etc doesn't count?

  • @amethyst6981
    @amethyst6981 9 місяців тому

    Which boss did you farm for the archangel may i ask?
    The only boss i know is retired

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому

      Hood - Kravenly The Hunter
      Robe - Morganthe
      Boots - Moros (Death Tree Root)

    • @amethyst6981
      @amethyst6981 9 місяців тому

      @@Zaepha Thank you, but can u farm it on max wiz or only wiz in that area cause i keep getting participation trophy

    • @Zaepha
      @Zaepha  9 місяців тому +1

      Oh not sure, cuz yeah they did change the drop tables based on your level for some of the drops. My guess is you CAN still get the archangel gear regardless of your level because it doesn’t count the same as the level 100 gear that’s level gated, but it’ll still be a very rare drop because it’s crowns gear.

  • @kingtomofficial
    @kingtomofficial 9 місяців тому

    As someone who HAS the imp costume. I don’t think the mount is worth it. 😒

    • @user-tu7kn9ug7s
      @user-tu7kn9ug7s 9 місяців тому +1

      Someone who has a bunch of the free 30 day imp mounts I agree. It's not a great mount. I'm sure if i had a perm of it it'd be at my house quicker than the 30 day ones individually run out

  • @LFX141
    @LFX141 9 місяців тому +1

    get ya money up

  • @greenchilistudioz4537
    @greenchilistudioz4537 9 місяців тому

    Saying crown rewards are bad, is like saying scammers being scummy is some neon new thing is rather dumb and halirious.

  • @Spikey_Spike
    @Spikey_Spike 9 місяців тому

    80,000 crowns for a bumper car? Dang it KI, which idiot thought it was a good idea to bring back this stupid event?

  • @NoizyInSeattle
    @NoizyInSeattle 9 місяців тому +1

    WTF.

  • @asianelson4671
    @asianelson4671 9 місяців тому

    I don't like this event they should have not do this event

  • @DontHateMeCausImSexy
    @DontHateMeCausImSexy 9 місяців тому +4

    WOW, this is crazy! scam alert!

  • @kingtroop5486
    @kingtroop5486 9 місяців тому +2

    Who tf buying 80k crowns💀