You should have read the replies my comments were getting when I suggested that all the parts & production delays related to Odin would hurt Loki sales. You would have thought that I cursed Mother Teresa to her face?! Ayntec showed us an Odin and called it a Loki without any prototyping whatsoever. Now, Loki is almost an entire generation behind, with serious players entering the market. There are also new low cost, high speed ARM SOCs coming from Asia. AYN was slow to respond and folks went elsewhere. None of these developments bring me joy, as I *really* like my Odin. It’s just unfortunate they squandered all the good will the community had to offer, much like Retroid.
When you start including prices early in your videos and comparing the devices with prices in mind ill return to the channel. These videos are starting to feel like paid advertising instead of reviews etc. There is so many of these devices now, prices are important when doing impressions or reviewing otherwise I'm left with the oooo he gets paid too look at these so no reason to believe anything he says. I've never heard a bad word about any of these devices even though almost all of them are clunky and buggy af, on your channel. I get you don't won't to poop on them so they'll keep sending you stuff, I'd rather have an honest opinion instead of this. Or stop leaving links to buy them and stop saying to buy one and just truly talk about your impressions and leave out the sells pitch. So many tech channels just pushing everything that comes out to make a dollar I'm over it. Either be a journalist or be a sellsman.
It's just too late....if they kept to their original timings there would be a bigger market but now everyone has moved onto 7000 series. I cancelled my order in Feb and now waiting for my Ally to arrive. Hoping they can get their act together for the Odin 2 campaign as I love that device but need a new more powerful update.
Same here. I really wanted to get the Loki Max. But the lack of transparency and the update every two months killed it. If it came out end of last year as they initially promised this would be a different story. Can’t wait to get my ROG Ally next week,
I think they came out with a first class devixe, hopefully they learned a lesson I told them a year ago about developing in public. Looks like they listened to me with the news of the Odin 2. The CEO replied to my email, if they did everything I recommend especially the part about not opening development to the public they should be successful.
@@TheMikeisfly they already said Odin 2 is coming on a Q&A but also that the window between ordering and shipping will not be so big. I hope so because I like their devices but regardless of developing in public this is too late, especially for the price.
What update do you need? I bought one and...well I see no reason to ever really huy another. Not for several years at least. Why do you keep upgrading.?
@@wondercat6169 But when you can buy the max spec ASUS ROG Ally for $699 (with much better specs) versus this, which they're selling for $775, why would you bother? You'd have to have some emotional attachment to Loki in order to justify buying a lower spec product for more money.
@@bluetech2809 In the real world the performance difference isn't all that noticeable anyway outside of the most extreme of scenarios form factor and build quality are much bigger concerns to me that what chip is inside when discussing this tier of device
No. They took too long. This was supposed to appear in Q3/Q4 of last year. I bought a steam deck instead. No regrets. I also now realise that a 7’’ screen is the smallest I’d go.
@@gaymers6138 i sold steam deck for loki max, it was a great decision. Loki max is cheaper than Steam Deck OLED (in my country) and it has much more power.
That CPU/GPU quick menu is a great idea. It would be an even greater idea if they made software like this for laptops. Underclocking when you don’t need all the horsepower makes your hardware last longer. I could easily underclock my CPU by 40% much of the time. When I need to game, one click and I'm at 100%.
@@kiet3524 sadly i am not an expert, try downloading it, and see if you can change settings in the fivr menu(before that you should wath some guides tho)
I can't imagine buying this device from an unknown company that seems to have issues with not updating customers, over something like the ROG Ally that's more powerful & cheaper. ROG Ally really killed the need for all these random kickstarter handheld PCs. Unless someone is either price competitive or has a lot that the Ally doesn't offer, they might as well not bother with this market anymore.
I don't see the issue with people getting into the space really. The ally shouldn't be the end all and something more premium will always be appreciated.
@okaychamp5802 I think the problem was always the time it takes for this stuff to come out. There have even been SKUs AYN had to cancel in the Loli line. Not to mention, when the Odin was coming out, they changed internals which affected battery life.
Oh yeah, that famous ASUS reputation. Asus motherboards literally catching fire. And instead of RMA customers losing warranty due to "overclocking" (using XMP profile) their 700$ motherboards.
Thanks for reminding me to cancel before they ship to me. I love what’s happening with this device, but I can’t justify the power vs price when there are better options available now.
This products came before Ally and Steamdeck. And take note this ones were crowd funded before going to some production. It all seem pointless now but thanks to them Steamdeck , Ally existed. It's been so long Nintendo is the only one active in handhelds
I got my ROG with the 10% off cardholder coupon and 5% back. So effectively I get it for $600. At that price I couldn’t justify a Loki. Honestly at msrp I don’t know if I could justify a Loki.. I like AYN, and frankly I think it looks more comfortable than the Ally but the power difference and big name backing it throw me way over the edge
In fact there is a $75 discount code for everyone and a $125 discount for Odin backers. So it's actually $700 (or $650). Some people like its size and pocketability, but for me the 6" screen is a bit smaller for a Windows handheld.
Everyone in the hardcore handheld space is probably waiting until the day 1 update before wasting time on outdated ally information. Phawx is going to redo all his tests then.
Unfortunately, the kind of games being reviewed on some of the devices are terrible for a benchmark , as i noticed many times , some devices you review AAA games that are newer and sometimes you will review older games for devices that sucks so it looks like its a good device which is deceiving honestly
I am so happy you hit over a mil! I remember the old raspberry pi videos wow I was sure that would be the peak of technology.i know it doesn't mean much among everyone but I'm so proud of you man please keep making videos❤
This is incredibly outdated. There is no reason someone should choose this over Ally. It was fine when it was thought to be soon and only against the Neo. But the Ally changed the game.
@@wondercat6169 Again, up against a Neo starting at $800? Fine. But a $699 z1 extreme with the ROG ally, a reputable company with Asus? I couldn’t justify this at all
@@davidcohen9016 wouldn't call Asus reputable nor would I judge the quality of a product by the brand making it but if that makes you comfortable than take it
@@Myako But it’s NOT a SteamDeck, which was my point? No one wants to pay more than $400 for gaming handheld because of SD, but won’t buy a SD, either?!
I'm primarily a Mac user and have very little experience with the Windows world. So for me these handhelds is my first serious entry into the windows system. Question, what gpu case and gpu combo do you recommend for these new hand held?
But active cooled. And fan tuned. There’s a great video showing a snapdragon 835/845 out performing a snapdragon Gen 1 when active cooled. I’ll try and find the creator.
Lookup Geekerwan custom gaming phone. The use a mi9 (snapdragon 855) and put a literal cpu cooler on the cpu die. And with specification tuning they manage to get the performance to line up with the Snapdragon Gen 1.
Yo ETA. Now that nvidia gamestream is gone what is your preferred methond for streaming bigbox? Ive been trying moonlight and sunshine but not having a lot of success. Would love to see a vid on what you think is the best way and how to configure. Thanks
So I just got my One X Player and just spent the last 5 hours trying to run any CEMU games and didn't have no luck. It keeps saying the ROM is encrypted and that I need the keys for it. Downloaded the keys, put the file with the CEMU folder 📂 and still nothing. I've watched a bunch of UA-cam videos and followed them step by step and I'm still getting the same message 🤦🏽
AYN do this, a latest SnapDragon chip = Ayn odin 2 Forget the handheld pc market too much competition. IF you dont offer good prices no one will bother
if you have a sony or canon camera please start shooting in s-log 2 or 3 or c-logthe default gamma curve blows out the image completely especially when shooting white electronics on a bright white table with a spotlight on it overexposed in the shutter, consider the zebra setting in your camera. or please get a mat to put the thing on. just honest feedback....
I have a question and hopefully someone can answer it I know that the Loki Max has most mode now with that being said how does that work for some games on Steam that have partial controller support not full controller support would you just have to turn it into Mouse mode
I just aint into spending a thousand dollars to a start up company on a site..then takes month to get or fix..atleast the ally u can go to a legit store and buy..I FEEL LIKE THESE COMPANYS SEE THERES A DEMAND FOR PC HANDHELDS..MAKE SOME SHIT..PUT IT ON THESE STARTER SITES..WERE THEY HAVE NO LIABILTY OR ETC. AND GET RICH
Or we live in a time where you can have a idea and develop something and sell it.AYN doesn't need to sell a million. This little company has pushed the market forward so I will keep supporting. Don't remember any of these devices having LEDs until them.
Ally is using a brand new SoC with the new 780m APU, it will be a bit more powerful. However, don't expect night and day. The problem for this device is the price. It can't compete.
"Not sure what we're calling it here" - Has "Loki Control Center" right at the top of the screen :) But yeah, keen to see how Yuzu\Ryujinx runs as well as what's involved in getting SteamOS to work, although being that Windows can just use Big Picture Mode, it may be irrelevant.
As a handheld Windows PC are you able to hook it up to a monitor/TV, attach a USB 3.x / USB 4.x hub, then plug in extra game controllers so you and some friends can play against each other? Possibly use it as a regular Windows 11 PC for watching movies, UA-cam, browse the web, create & edit videos, etc when plugged in to an external video display or projector? I watch a fair bit of Van Life / RV videos on UA-cam. One thing that is common among the younger campers is they love to game, watch movies, cruise the web, etc. Many of them settle on a tablet or a notebook, their phone and a dedicated game console. This would be a great way to tackle all those use cases all rolled in to one machine. And it looks like it is friendly to solar powered vehicles.
How is the resistance of the joysticks? It looks from the video like they are really light (very little resistance). Also I wonder why nobody is doing anything similar to the C-stick of the Gamecube controller. I think it would be ideal to keep the height of the device low and it would make it more portable.
Can’t wait to get my Max, hopefully soon. Can we see some Red Dead 2? I’ve been replaying it recently on my Steam Deck and am interested in how this will do
I’d love to see mobile game emulation for cod mobile specifically (I would say warzone mobile but it isn’t out yet) and then also I’d love to see if it can run warzone or warzone 2.0 we’ll or not. Out of all the handhelds I’ve seen on your channel this one piques my interest most. I’ve been wanting something for a few years now and thought I’d wait for one that would be a diamond in the rough for me and this one might just be it!
I love AYN products. Especially my Odin but this is too little too late. They take so long to perfect the products which is great but their fulfillment is just too slow. In the time they were making this, I bought and sold a GPD win4.
This is a very nice handheld but it's not cheap at $775. my question is, can you stream play from your PC? I am 44 and I just got into emulation so all this is new to me
It’s clear that AYN never even tested 6800 in Odin shell. They just posted placeholder images for Loki to keep Odin customers interested in Loki. Once I received my Odin, I knew there was no way in hell they were cramming a Ryzen SOC into that thin shell. I think they’ve blown it? There’s little interest in this if comments are to be believed.
Had my pre order in for a loki day one unfortunately with zero updates and l9ng delays I ended up importing a steam deck to Australia. Would have been nice to get the loki
If this was announced today and shipping in a weeks time, I would've been interested. But I cancelled last year because my Steamdeck came and fulfilled everything I wanted in a handheld PC.
As much as I love my Odin Pro, it's just too bad 6800u Loki Max is at least 3 months too late when we are getting Ally next week for the similar price tag.
it just me or are these benchmark results just meh for a $700+ Ryzen handheld? I was really look forward to the Loki, as I absolutely love my Odin. It also appears that AYN is using the same yellow-tinted white plastic that Retroid used for RP3. This seems like such a step in the wrong direction, so much so that I genuinely hope I’m wrong about these disappointing first impressions.
@@ToeCutter0 didn't say it was the best available I said you aren't going to do *much* better a 7840u is the best chip for these things and it's only marginally better than this one
What's your thoughts on the new AYN Loki? With ryzen 7000 handhelds already in the market are you still interested in loki?
Pretty good, Ryzen 8000 just got a few leaks so new Apu's coming sooooooon!
I ordered it first day but cancelled once i saw the specs, 2230 nvme! Nope!
I have bouth the base Loki. Hope its coming to me soon.
I'm wondering about the lower models. The price point is so low it for the 2 bottom tiers.
As low end guy, Loki Zero and Loki Mini Pro still look interesting
Unfortunately ayn themselves managed to lose many possible customers in a lot of time without any news during the development of their handheld pcs
yep i went with the steamdeck in the end
@@Futura2500 Same. Going to pickup a Ally as well before this. Canceled my pre-order due to complete silence for months.
You should have read the replies my comments were getting when I suggested that all the parts & production delays related to Odin would hurt Loki sales. You would have thought that I cursed Mother Teresa to her face?!
Ayntec showed us an Odin and called it a Loki without any prototyping whatsoever. Now, Loki is almost an entire generation behind, with serious players entering the market. There are also new low cost, high speed ARM SOCs coming from Asia. AYN was slow to respond and folks went elsewhere. None of these developments bring me joy, as I *really* like my Odin. It’s just unfortunate they squandered all the good will the community had to offer, much like Retroid.
@@ToeCutter0Too bad, considering AYN knew to put a Qualcomm SoC in a device in a market where Unisoc and Rockchip are in a crapload of devices.
When you start including prices early in your videos and comparing the devices with prices in mind ill return to the channel. These videos are starting to feel like paid advertising instead of reviews etc. There is so many of these devices now, prices are important when doing impressions or reviewing otherwise I'm left with the oooo he gets paid too look at these so no reason to believe anything he says. I've never heard a bad word about any of these devices even though almost all of them are clunky and buggy af, on your channel. I get you don't won't to poop on them so they'll keep sending you stuff, I'd rather have an honest opinion instead of this. Or stop leaving links to buy them and stop saying to buy one and just truly talk about your impressions and leave out the sells pitch. So many tech channels just pushing everything that comes out to make a dollar I'm over it. Either be a journalist or be a sellsman.
It's just too late....if they kept to their original timings there would be a bigger market but now everyone has moved onto 7000 series.
I cancelled my order in Feb and now waiting for my Ally to arrive.
Hoping they can get their act together for the Odin 2 campaign as I love that device but need a new more powerful update.
Same here. I really wanted to get the Loki Max. But the lack of transparency and the update every two months killed it. If it came out end of last year as they initially promised this would be a different story. Can’t wait to get my ROG Ally next week,
I think they came out with a first class devixe, hopefully they learned a lesson I told them a year ago about developing in public. Looks like they listened to me with the news of the Odin 2. The CEO replied to my email, if they did everything I recommend especially the part about not opening development to the public they should be successful.
@@TheMikeisfly they already said Odin 2 is coming on a Q&A but also that the window between ordering and shipping will not be so big.
I hope so because I like their devices but regardless of developing in public this is too late, especially for the price.
What update do you need? I bought one and...well I see no reason to ever really huy another. Not for several years at least. Why do you keep upgrading.?
A little too late with the 6800u. Love the design though.
You don't always need the latest and greatest and the chip is plenty capable
Even if loki is behind in specs, I feel I would be happier buying loki than buying a device with over spec performance.
@@wondercat6169 But when you can buy the max spec ASUS ROG Ally for $699 (with much better specs) versus this, which they're selling for $775, why would you bother? You'd have to have some emotional attachment to Loki in order to justify buying a lower spec product for more money.
@@bluetech2809 In the real world the performance difference isn't all that noticeable anyway outside of the most extreme of scenarios form factor and build quality are much bigger concerns to me that what chip is inside when discussing this tier of device
@@wondercat6169 I see you completely ignored the price :D
too late too expensive when the ally is out... they missed the train with all the delays.
No. They took too long. This was supposed to appear in Q3/Q4 of last year. I bought a steam deck instead. No regrets. I also now realise that a 7’’ screen is the smallest I’d go.
Eh this is more expensive than the Ally 😂 and worse
Design and hardware actually better. Just use older chip. Ally has issue with button stuck in preview unit. Hopefully it fixed in retail unit
@@azraeihalim hmmm id say that is personal opinion on the design 👌
@@azraeihalim Design is far nicer on the Ally.
@@adolfbilic8622 for big hand yea sure. I see Loki has better ergonomic for small hand user
I'd like to see a side-by- comparison between the Steam Deck, Ally, and Loki
Same
Steam Deck much better
@@gaymers6138 i sold steam deck for loki max, it was a great decision. Loki max is cheaper than Steam Deck OLED (in my country) and it has much more power.
I really like the design and portability I don’t care if it is not the most powerful, I like the confortable design.
I think the screen could have been bigger given its size.
That CPU/GPU quick menu is a great idea. It would be an even greater idea if they made software like this for laptops. Underclocking when you don’t need all the horsepower makes your hardware last longer. I could easily underclock my CPU by 40% much of the time. When I need to game, one click and I'm at 100%.
You can use Throttlestop to do that, if your cpu is unlocked, you could also undervolt it while you are at it.
@@arminci01 can i undervolt the 5500u with that app?
@@arminci01 I know, but a nice GUI, quick access, and simple a UI like this software would be much nicer.
@@kiet3524 sadly i am not an expert, try downloading it, and see if you can change settings in the fivr menu(before that you should wath some guides tho)
All good laptops require underclocks all the time lol.
I can't imagine buying this device from an unknown company that seems to have issues with not updating customers, over something like the ROG Ally that's more powerful & cheaper. ROG Ally really killed the need for all these random kickstarter handheld PCs. Unless someone is either price competitive or has a lot that the Ally doesn't offer, they might as well not bother with this market anymore.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you are a joke
I don't see the issue with people getting into the space really. The ally shouldn't be the end all and something more premium will always be appreciated.
@okaychamp5802 I think the problem was always the time it takes for this stuff to come out. There have even been SKUs AYN had to cancel in the Loli line. Not to mention, when the Odin was coming out, they changed internals which affected battery life.
Oh yeah, that famous ASUS reputation. Asus motherboards literally catching fire. And instead of RMA customers losing warranty due to "overclocking" (using XMP profile) their 700$ motherboards.
Odin has a Snapdragon 845 not the 855
Thanks for reminding me to cancel before they ship to me. I love what’s happening with this device, but I can’t justify the power vs price when there are better options available now.
Who would possibly buy this over the Ally? These products seem pointless
This products came before Ally and Steamdeck. And take note this ones were crowd funded before going to some production. It all seem pointless now but thanks to them Steamdeck , Ally existed. It's been so long Nintendo is the only one active in handhelds
Wouldn't buy anything that only uses a 2230 nvme!
I'd buy one for 600.
I only want a console that does ps3 emulation and the deck doesn't.
And the alley is 800€
Very true. It's sad because they are so good but just so expensive
people who want a comfortable handheld
I got my ROG with the 10% off cardholder coupon and 5% back. So effectively I get it for $600. At that price I couldn’t justify a Loki. Honestly at msrp I don’t know if I could justify a Loki.. I like AYN, and frankly I think it looks more comfortable than the Ally but the power difference and big name backing it throw me way over the edge
This handheld is a perfect example of too little too late
In fact there is a $75 discount code for everyone and a $125 discount for Odin backers. So it's actually $700 (or $650).
Some people like its size and pocketability, but for me the 6" screen is a bit smaller for a Windows handheld.
For that price range the Ally is the best choice.
Should have had a 7640U with 7500Mhz LPDDR5X it's faster AND more power efficient than the 6800U, while being cheaper.
Are you going to do a side by side comparison with the rog ally and aya neo 2s ??
Everyone in the hardcore handheld space is probably waiting until the day 1 update before wasting time on outdated ally information. Phawx is going to redo all his tests then.
$775 vs $699 no one can touch ASUS's competitive pricing
Yeah with those specs now I could only justify like $499 at most.
Unfortunately, the kind of games being reviewed on some of the devices are terrible for a benchmark , as i noticed many times , some devices you review AAA games that are newer and sometimes you will review older games for devices that sucks so it looks like its a good device which is deceiving honestly
I am so happy you hit over a mil! I remember the old raspberry pi videos wow I was sure that would be the peak of technology.i know it doesn't mean much among everyone but I'm so proud of you man please keep making videos❤
This is also dead on arrival as the ROG ally releases next week
No, the one they'll release next month will be the one to get. No! The next one! Wait, there's another one the following month!
bold of u to assume they release on time
This is incredibly outdated. There is no reason someone should choose this over Ally.
It was fine when it was thought to be soon and only against the Neo. But the Ally changed the game.
Incredibly outdated is more than an overstatement the difference between a 6800u and a 7840u really isn't that noticeable
@@wondercat6169 well the price is noticeable.
@@wondercat6169 Again, up against a Neo starting at $800? Fine. But a $699 z1 extreme with the ROG ally, a reputable company with Asus? I couldn’t justify this at all
@@davidcohen9016 wouldn't call Asus reputable nor would I judge the quality of a product by the brand making it but if that makes you comfortable than take it
@@davidcohen9016 it's very important to consider form factor as well
I'd love to see a budget Android handheld with a Snapdragon 778G.
How about snapdragon 7 gen 2?
@@jeijei3255 Sure, but that would probably be considerably more expensive.
The Razer Edge was released with Qualcomm G3x Gen 1 for $400, and no one bought it.
@@ToeCutter0 that's not budget, that's Steam Deck territory.
@@Myako But it’s NOT a SteamDeck, which was my point? No one wants to pay more than $400 for gaming handheld because of SD, but won’t buy a SD, either?!
The only advantage of this device over Rog ally is the small size. Very portable. But with the price, not worth my hard earned money at all.
None of these handhelds are worth picking up at least not now imo
I'm primarily a Mac user and have very little experience with the Windows world. So for me these handhelds is my first serious entry into the windows system. Question, what gpu case and gpu combo do you recommend for these new hand held?
This is the device i would have bought instead of the steamdeck - it was more than 6 months late imo
Odin Pro has Snapdragon 845 😅
Yup, I caught that too!
But active cooled. And fan tuned. There’s a great video showing a snapdragon 835/845 out performing a snapdragon Gen 1 when active cooled. I’ll try and find the creator.
@@KANDYMANIAC I really want to see Snapdragon 865+ with Odin pro plus model 😂🤣😅
Lookup Geekerwan custom gaming phone. The use a mi9 (snapdragon 855) and put a literal cpu cooler on the cpu die. And with specification tuning they manage to get the performance to line up with the Snapdragon Gen 1.
Can you give me a source? I thought Odin pro would get upwards of 865 chip
Yo ETA. Now that nvidia gamestream is gone what is your preferred methond for streaming bigbox? Ive been trying moonlight and sunshine but not having a lot of success. Would love to see a vid on what you think is the best way and how to configure. Thanks
Which is the best 7840u device
That would be a nice comparison for some ambitious UA-camr to do.
Loki is the Cool dude who is always late for the party
So I just got my One X Player and just spent the last 5 hours trying to run any CEMU games and didn't have no luck.
It keeps saying the ROM is encrypted and that I need the keys for it.
Downloaded the keys, put the file with the CEMU folder 📂 and still nothing.
I've watched a bunch of UA-cam videos and followed them step by step and I'm still getting the same message 🤦🏽
idk i think 7 inch screen is needed unless you want more portability
AYN do this, a latest SnapDragon chip = Ayn odin 2
Forget the handheld pc market too much competition. IF you dont offer good prices no one will bother
I'm thinking about pre ordering the 6600u do you think I can trust them to ship it by may? I just find it hard to believe you have one considering xDD
Any Halo Infinite gameplay and performance?
Min and Max FPS in game set to 60, low settings, 720p
if you have a sony or canon camera please start shooting in s-log 2 or 3 or c-logthe default gamma curve blows out the image completely especially when shooting white electronics on a bright white table with a spotlight on it overexposed in the shutter, consider the zebra setting in your camera. or please get a mat to put the thing on. just honest feedback....
It’s really nice to see a another handheld in the competition Awsome video ETA 👍
Nah, Steam deck all the way. I much rather a company launches a device and publicly sticks with it for years before a hardware revision.
I have a question and hopefully someone can answer it I know that the Loki Max has most mode now with that being said how does that work for some games on Steam that have partial controller support not full controller support would you just have to turn it into Mouse mode
Sony is the ruin company if not immediately plunged into the competition of PC gaming handheld.
They have PlayStation, and also a PSP console.
Whered you get that wallpaper?
Too small and at that price point feels a little too late. Pointless if you wish.
Llega tarde y tecnologicamente queda por debajo de Asus Rog Ally y mas modelos con el Ryzen 7000
I definitely want to see how this looks with steam OS
Thanks for your video, can we connect an egpu to the loki max?
Been waiting for the aya neo 2s vs rog ally comparison
Looks more like a kids toy . The small buttons hurt my thumb just looking at them .
How long did the battery last while gaming?
I really don't get how ppl can do actual gaming (or anything else) on a 6 inches screen. Isn't 7" the bare minimum?
I just aint into spending a thousand dollars to a start up company on a site..then takes month to get or fix..atleast the ally u can go to a legit store and buy..I FEEL LIKE THESE COMPANYS SEE THERES A DEMAND FOR PC HANDHELDS..MAKE SOME SHIT..PUT IT ON THESE STARTER SITES..WERE THEY HAVE NO LIABILTY OR ETC. AND GET RICH
Or we live in a time where you can have a idea and develop something and sell it.AYN doesn't need to sell a million. This little company has pushed the market forward so I will keep supporting. Don't remember any of these devices having LEDs until them.
This device makes no sense at that price point. Maybe 500$.
Screen quality is bad. It even noticeable from camera video
No point on this now with 7000 and RDNA 3 already out in Ally
I was going to pre order this, but then i heard of the time.delays
what is the difference between this and the rog ally spec wise? Which is more powerful?
Ally is using a brand new SoC with the new 780m APU, it will be a bit more powerful.
However, don't expect night and day.
The problem for this device is the price.
It can't compete.
@@DarkFrostX5 ok I pre ordered the ally and am picking it up Tuesday, just wanted to make sure I got the most powerful device
Screen is small and dull. Seems like poor quality.
nobody is waiting for 800$ handheld
Thanks ETAtech thanks for all ..
Didn't know I was waiting for RDNA2 handheld given the new AMD low power CPUs
Wow at a higher price point than the ROG ally this thing is dead in the water maybe it’ll have a chance at survival if it was 499
Honestly it looks like it has a better form factor and that's going to be important for a ton of people
very expensive. for the price id buy a mini pc
"Not sure what we're calling it here" - Has "Loki Control Center" right at the top of the screen :) But yeah, keen to see how Yuzu\Ryujinx runs as well as what's involved in getting SteamOS to work, although being that Windows can just use Big Picture Mode, it may be irrelevant.
Fallout New Vegas pls, thank you
As a handheld Windows PC are you able to hook it up to a monitor/TV, attach a USB 3.x / USB 4.x hub, then plug in extra game controllers so you and some friends can play against each other? Possibly use it as a regular Windows 11 PC for watching movies, UA-cam, browse the web, create & edit videos, etc when plugged in to an external video display or projector?
I watch a fair bit of Van Life / RV videos on UA-cam. One thing that is common among the younger campers is they love to game, watch movies, cruise the web, etc. Many of them settle on a tablet or a notebook, their phone and a dedicated game console. This would be a great way to tackle all those use cases all rolled in to one machine. And it looks like it is friendly to solar powered vehicles.
Bigbox in the emulation showcase
Dirt 43 :D I wanna play that!
How is the resistance of the joysticks? It looks from the video like they are really light (very little resistance).
Also I wonder why nobody is doing anything similar to the C-stick of the Gamecube controller. I think it would be ideal to keep the height of the device low and it would make it more portable.
In which countries is this available?
Love my Odin this is tempting
Can’t wait to get my Max, hopefully soon. Can we see some Red Dead 2? I’ve been replaying it recently on my Steam Deck and am interested in how this will do
God of War 3 emulation please.
can it support war thunder game?
This is an actually portable size lol
I’d love to see mobile game emulation for cod mobile specifically (I would say warzone mobile but it isn’t out yet) and then also I’d love to see if it can run warzone or warzone 2.0 we’ll or not. Out of all the handhelds I’ve seen on your channel this one piques my interest most. I’ve been wanting something for a few years now and thought I’d wait for one that would be a diamond in the rough for me and this one might just be it!
Dude ❤
Rog Ally wins ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
I love AYN products. Especially my Odin but this is too little too late. They take so long to perfect the products which is great but their fulfillment is just too slow. In the time they were making this, I bought and sold a GPD win4.
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This is a very nice handheld but it's not cheap at $775. my question is, can you stream play from your PC? I am 44 and I just got into emulation so all this is new to me
Why to go back in time and increase the bezels?
It’s clear that AYN never even tested 6800 in Odin shell. They just posted placeholder images for Loki to keep Odin customers interested in Loki. Once I received my Odin, I knew there was no way in hell they were cramming a Ryzen SOC into that thin shell.
I think they’ve blown it? There’s little interest in this if comments are to be believed.
Its Weaker and more expensive than the ally. The only pro going for it is that it's smaller but that's not necessarily a pro for alot of people.
Never heard of Dirt 43 lol
does it come with activated windows ?
Can you run some WWE 2k games
Had my pre order in for a loki day one unfortunately with zero updates and l9ng delays I ended up importing a steam deck to Australia. Would have been nice to get the loki
If this was announced today and shipping in a weeks time, I would've been interested. But I cancelled last year because my Steamdeck came and fulfilled everything I wanted in a handheld PC.
I'm looking forward to a battery life comparison with this vs. Ally and AYANEO S2 at same wattage settings.
It’s form and size are what I loved. But AYN’s customer service is simply below par.
All these handhelds that coming out are nice looking, i do hope someone makes a handheld like switch where i can get both physical and digital games.
As much as I love my Odin Pro, it's just too bad 6800u Loki Max is at least 3 months too late when we are getting Ally next week for the similar price tag.
but can it emulate ps3?
There are just too many of these devices popping out at once. 🤣
Oh it’s a Radeon rx 6000 😟powered not radeon rx 7000 , a little late into the game to be releasing rx 6000 powered devices
I would love a Destiny 2 benchmark 😊
it just me or are these benchmark results just meh for a $700+ Ryzen handheld? I was really look forward to the Loki, as I absolutely love my Odin. It also appears that AYN is using the same yellow-tinted white plastic that Retroid used for RP3. This seems like such a step in the wrong direction, so much so that I genuinely hope I’m wrong about these disappointing first impressions.
It's definitely just you the 6800u is great you're not going to do much better
@@wondercat6169 I disagree, but it’s just not worth debating when you imply that *this handheld* is the best that’s available?! 🤦♂️
@@ToeCutter0 didn't say it was the best available I said you aren't going to do *much* better a 7840u is the best chip for these things and it's only marginally better than this one
Resident evil 4 Remake