The AYN Loki Max Finally Delivers -- But is it Too Late?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- The AYN Loki Max is shipping this month, so let's take a deep-dive review and see if it's worth the considerable sticker price.
More info here: bit.ly/LokiMax
AYN Loki impressions video: • AYN Loki Max Impressio...
Timestamps:
00:00 introduction
00:57 tech specs
02:01 controls
03:59 display
05:21 roundedness & comfort
06:19 Loki control center
10:34 performance
16:31 battery life & fan noise
18:17 release timing (& conclusion)
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HUGE CORRECTION: I accidentally labeled the game Celeste as Dead Cells in my footage. To clear up any confusion, Celeste is the game whose main character has flaming red hair, and Dead Cell's main character has a flaming red head.
Celeste is a 2018 platform game developed and published by indie studio Maddy Makes Games. The player controls Madeline, a young trans woman with anxiety and depression who aims to climb Celeste Mountain. During her climb, she encounters several characters, including a personification of her self-doubt known to the community as Badeline, only ever referred to in-game as a "Part of You," who attempts to stop her from climbing the mountain.
Dead Cells is a 2018 roguelike-Metroidvania game developed and published by Motion Twin. In the game, the player takes the role of an amorphous creature called the Prisoner. As the Prisoner, the player must fight their way out of a diseased island in order to slay the island's King.
Chill bro chill. You gravey baby.
Did you actually test these run times or are they calculated / extrapolated?
They seem off to me
Can't really tell if you're joking here or not lol
I was one to buy on june 2022, cancelled around november and with a heavy heart because I knew it would be a good product, but I also wanted to actually play and not have to wait a year for the device. It was around this time I got to know the gpd win 4 and canceled my loki max for one. I`m glad I did it because I am already playing on my device for months and it has been a blast. I don`t feel enraged that the device took this long to be on youtuber`s hands, let alone to the people that ordered it... it is more like a bit sad for the late arrival. It had so much potential arriving back then...
This was all planned
How is the keyboard to use? Is there any chance of typing longer periods and it feels fine?
Thanks
@@matthiasschuster9505 it is not really as useful to use. You can't expect to do nowere close to fast typing... But it is good enough for lots of things. Maybe if we stayed on a timeline where touchscreen didn't catch on, I would be well trained to be faster.
@@BrunoSXS And in terms of comfort and how the device feels in your hands, while typing?
Can you hold it in a way, that let's focus on the typing?
@@matthiasschuster9505 sure if by that you mean using only your thumbs...
I have an Ally, but I'm still looking forward to the Loki due to its size. Both the Steam Deck and the Ally are too big for my travel bag, but the Loki should be able to fit right in. So I think the Loki still has a place in the market for that reason, if nothing else.
Agreed, love my Deck but it's only barely portable in my opinion. I have a back and front super slim case for it to minimize additional bulk while still protecting it and it's still enormous and heavy. I'm eyeing Loki for the closer-to-Switch size.
I really like the form factor of this device as I personally feel that the Steam Deck and the ROG Ally are a bit too large for a dedicated handheld device. The price is certainly a real bummer but honestly the biggest bummer to me about all of these devices is that they don't have the option to run on Steam OS. Because of this, the Steam Deck is still a fantastic option despite being quite a bit older than all of these other Windows devices and I feel like whenever Valve launches their next Steam Deck it's going to kind of blow all of these Windows handhelds away even if it's using a similar chipset.
Many of those Windows Handhelds do support Steam OS. The GPD Win 4 can run Steam OS. The Ayaneo 2 can as well. Steam OS is basically just Linux.
Yes, I hope Valve’s next handheld device will be lighter, have better ergonomics, better screen, better battery efficiency, more stable firmware and better game support overall which can make it a strong contender against other handhelds as well as consoles with inferior backwards compatibility support.
Valve just have to wait and see what Nintendo does first before they can make a move…
My only fear is that the console makers manages to scares Valve enough into preventing emulation on it.
@@peite7878yeah, why not watch the best so it? Nintendo lol
As always thank you for the detailed reviews. Im glad I didnt decide to down payment this one too... I still have my regular pro odin (as I almost got the gpd win 4 earlier this year).
I'm just trying to patiently wait till they(anyone ayn, gpd, etc...), come out with a handheld with a slide out keyboard, that's also thin(ner), less than(or equal to) 5inches screen wise, and can play ps3 emulation. That'll be my personal sweet spot! 😊
I picked the loki over the ally for the sole fact for form factor. in truth it really does depend on what you are looking for in the device and why you would buy it. For anyone trying to get into the space of PC handhelds id actually point to them to the base model steam deck. once you go further up its really priorities what makes people buy certain devices. steam deck was too bulky and the ally, not as big, was still too bulky for me. when I was deciding it was between the loki and ayaneo air plus and what gave the loki the edge to me was the V shape control layout. Im paying 700 to get away from my gaming PC and just relax in bed before going to sleep for a short game session.
before all this, I played a lot of monster hunter rise in bed with my switch oled, but I'm locked into the ecosystem and wanted to branch out
I've had the Logitech g cloud for abt 4 months now and whenever I go out with it I feel like it's just to big to carry around and I feel like all that bulk makes it really noticeable and easy to steal, keep in mind the g cloud is smaller than the deck and ally
Great content as always bruh
I'm 100% glad I dropped my pre-order.
I'm on day 3 of tweaking my Ally and I love it.
I feel bad for AYN but I'm sure they will learn from this.
Maybe I'll look at the loki 3.
Can we have more Ally content Russ.
Thx russ thx all of all these reviews it's great to see someone give the smart choice rather the I'm being paid choice...I know it has it features in smaller size etc. but buying out a local store with local support is a no brainer
Man, perfect commentary at the end that satisfied my curiosity. I'm going to buy an Ally tomorrow morning, if the money is right with my account!
Excellent dividing the first impression and the review video, keeping the videos shorter 👏👏👏
you've been killing it with these shirts lately, love the guitar pedal at the drive in shirt you had on today.
I don't know why, but there's something very inviting about the Loki Max's soft rounded aesthetic compared to the more jagged ROG Ally... I'd still probably buy the Ally though if I had to choose.
Hey Russ. About to grab a cup of joe and sit down for this one. Thanks for doing these videos.
At The Drive In shirt spotted..... was looking for more music to add to my playlist, and now I'll be adding One Armed Scissor
Use the Render scale setting for God of War. I set it to 60% on my GPD Win 4 and played through the entire game with most settings set to original and framerate locked at 40fps. I was able to set the TDP low enough to get 2 hours of battery. The Loki Max was at the top of my list when I started looking for a Windows Handheld. I have a Odin Pro and loved it a lot but the Loki took so long to come out that I looked elsewhere and found the GPD Win 4 that has some features I really wanted.
I’m not in the market for a new heavy hitter of a handheld, but damn are we living in the age of powerhouse handheld systems - and I love it!
That said, Valve really has set the bar in terms of price and performance.
Too bad they won’t sell more than 5M. Beat handhelds that actually set the bar for price and performance sell 100Ms
That At the Drive-in shirt is great
If you pre-order a AYN Loki Max today and receive by 1st quarter of 2025 I'd be amazed.
Detective Sandy Vagina found the perp on the beach, at great personal cost.
It's making you cranky.
That for me is the biggest issue for a lot of these handheld brands
I went with the Asus
Exactly this. By the time they actually ship your preorder, they have already announced a newer model. F* that. Better off with Valve or ASUS who will support their products for several years.
@@Christian-eq7uhhow is it ? I’ve heard mixed reviews
That's standard if you're into custom keyboards lmao.
Your videos are adictive!! I LOVE THEM! keep it up!!
I would love to see a review of the cheaper loki options. I've had my eye on the mini pro if the performance is there at all
Someone needs to make a playlist the consists solely of Russ’ recording of handheld fan noise. I get ASMR vibes has i bask in the white noise and imagined smell of new electronics.
I love the form factor and design of the loki, those grips like nice and easy on the hands, unlike the ally. However yeah it's a tough sell when you can get better performance for less with the ally.
Performance isn't everything, size and battery life matter too. I will easily take this over the big large ally which is harder to take around and heavier
I feel like the next Loki will be much better and probably have way better timing. Although i already have the ally and that's probably all I need for the next 5 years or so
Knowing Ayn, they'll start talking about the next Loki before initial pre-order deliveries are caught up, collect orders, and go silent while the Odin 2 is being developed.
thats what they said about the loki, and that they had learned their lesson fro the odin launch
@@ca9inec0mic58 So, naturally, they started talking about the Odin 2 before engineering samples for the Loki went out
Dude, that's exactly the reason I bailed on the AOKZOE A1 Pro and went with the Ally. Well, that and the nightmare stories about their customer service, or lack thereof. Sure enough, the minute the Indiegogo ended they announced the A2
The indiegogo route cant hold up regarding a decent release cycle.If they dont have the money to launch a device at this point without crowd funding they are pretty much SOoL
Just got my ROG Ally, but this still looks really cool.
I got the Loki with the 6600u and a ROG Ally and I prefer the Loki even though it has a lower level CPU. The Loki is more comfortable to hold it feels heavy and the plastic feels higher quality. The smaller screen isn't that noticeable and it an play all the games the Ally can but at lower settings but still look amazing..
The hot key button combos on the Loki are great for easy switching from gamepad to mouse mode. Don't gimp it with TDP settings none of these handhelds have good battery life no matter what you do. There is one setting to change is fan speed the Loki is loud at auto and is overkill. I set it to 40% and it keeps it cool enough. If you want to change the TDP I set mine to 20 ish and its fine I play Gamez at low settings I prefer performance and the quality is still good.
You can get the Loki Max 6800u for $550 which is a steal. I got my Loki in 2 weeks when I bought mine in September from the Ayn website.
I was one in the stack for the Ryzen 5 version because of the intended use case (Genshin Impact at the time, now adding in Honkai Star Rail, plus visual novels) - but the delays took so long to materialize in a shippable product that it's coming out after something that's faster than it, plus some extra features.
And that's after picking up a ROG Ally launch evening and getting it setup with no unexpected headaches (knowing how Windows works and where it.. doesn't really lets you get around issues before they're issues).
That might be why the software is still a bit undercooked, they saw what was coming and just pressed the big "SHIP IT" button..
It looks really nice
Good review. I agree that the loki max is late to the show. Seems you have forgotten about the Aya Neo Geek 1S. It is also now at 700$, with the 7840u. Right now, I think it is a better deal than the Rog Ally. But in a month or two, that won’t be the case. But for now, the Geek 1S deal is really good. Same thing for the AokzoeA1pro you reviewed a while back. At 800$, it was a fantastic deal, better than the Ally in my opinion. But now that the campaign for the early bird prices has ended, it isn’t. Onex player is due to release the Onexfly with 7840u and 120hz screen and much more. If the price is good then it would be better than the Ally. The advantage the Ally has is that it is readily available and the price doesn’t change
Hey Russ, I was wondering if you could share with me a straight comparison with the Loki Max and the Steam Deck? No ROG Ally included 😂 As a Deck owner and a very early backer of the Loki max , I’m holding steady. I love the Loki form factor/ ergonomics, and can’t seem to find a detailed direct comparison with the Steam Deck. How will I be juggling these things getting the best out of both systems? ROG Ally is the kid who watched us die a million times in Mega man only to master it the first time they played it 😂😂😂 Love the channel and the content! Keep it comin!!
Mini pro and zero are where I think they will shine with the Loki devices tbh
Will there be a review for the other variants? Mainly the Loki Zero, wondering which one to get between that one or the Odin Pro because it will be mainly used for emulation.
Are you going to make a guide on setting up handheld PCs?
What is impressive is battery life of this, at 15W beyond 2hrs is really good.... Imagine if it had 7840U
Right?! Then it could get a slight performance boost in the higher TDP ranges
With an Auto TDP program it would be even better. I have one for my GPD Win 4 and games that used to drain my battery in 1 hour can now last 1 hour and 45 min with the exact same performance. Games that I can get 2 hours normally can get 2 and a half hour with Auto TDP. Basically the program will lower the cpu and gpu frequency on the fly to match the framerate you want. You reach a place that has less stuff to render, drops the frequency, cleared all the enemies in an area so less power needed? drop the frequency, loading screen? drops the frequency. Makes a huge difference when all added up over 2 hours.
@retrogamecorps Would it be easier to recommend now that it's $550? Struggling to decide between this and an OLED Steam Deck.
Good thing that I pulled out from the preorder....
Really curious how the $489 vanilla Loki with a 6600U & 8gb of RAM compares performance wise. As far as I can tell it should have the same hardware otherwise but without a comparable 6600U handheld I'm curious how much the chipset will matter and even more so, how much the 8gb of RAM will affect what will play.
edit- And to be honest, even more so... How capable will the (newly price increased) $349 AMD (the only chipset remaining) Loki Mini Pro perform?
I saw a laptop with the same ram and CPU and that could run Forza horizon 5, I'm probably going to sell my g cloud for one
I would even go further and buy an open box ROG Ally instead of the Loki Max, especially if it’s only $560
Normal analog sticks are the reason why Anbernic Rg350 was one of my all times favorite. However I’ve modded the right one with a flat styled stick. And left the other original
It's now $550 on Ayn's website, so it actually looks like a decent buy
Have they updated the software to fix the problems that you noted with start/select and the back buttons be preconfigured and not remappable¿
1. The fps for Witcher 3 at 720 low at 25W seems abnormally low if there was no mis-labelling. Remember it seems to perform better on other 6800u.
Did you try reinstalling the newest radeon drivers?
2. Does 40hz mode works if RSR is turned on? (E.g 720p native rendering and output in 1080p) .
I agree 100%
God of war locked at 30fps at 25w tdp was weird was weird because on Ayn's UA-cam channel they have gameplay in the 40s-50s at a 20watt tdp. I'm confused if maybe settings are different in the vid
@@yearoftheox5222 I played through God of War at 40fps on my GPD Win 4 in 720p with most settings at Original and I'm pretty sure I was at 14-16w. I think the difference is that I used the renderscale option. Maybe the tests we see in the video is always without any upscaling settings. No renderscale or AMD resolution or FSR magic at all.
Honestly, with all these devices I feel I can afford to wait another year or two. Based on improvements over time, I’m sure there will be another device with twice the power and performance and maybe even a better battery. Not sure, but I can afford to wait and see. For the time being, I’m good with my Odin and switch.
That sounds a little bit of a waste of money. Could've just used your phone plus a telescopic controller.
There's few points to be made and all. But if you are definitely trying to save money then you would've just stick with switch for emulation and phone for the other.
I feel the same. The tech has improved so much so quickly that in maybe just 1 more generation we will have a 720p/800p handheld that can run literally everything on max settings, no compromises.
Having a TDP setter is such an interesting idea, but not sure I'd want to change that all the time.
for my GPD Win 4 I have an Auto TDP program. I usually have it set to 6w when I'm in Windows but before I start a game I start the Auto TDP mode that will change the cpu and gpu frequency automatically to match the framerate I want. It does that on the fly constantly as well so if I'm in a place in a game that has less stuff to render, it will lower the clock speed and save power so battery last even longer than if you just set a constant TDP. It's really worth taking the couple seconds needed to change TDP just so you can keep battery life decent.
Like the look of the Loki Max. I think the screen is a miss though. Playing Cyberpunk 2077 on the Steam Deck the text is already hard to read and a smaller screen than that just seems like a bad idea for a device targeting PC games.
I want to get a handheld for ps play and maybe emulating gb games I didn't even think about size of text while playing cyber punk that's good point thank you
Was really hoping the UI would sway me. It looked so promising. But seems like I'll still have to turn to 3rd party software like handheld control panel for a smoother experience.
Damn. Didn't realize how quiet my Rog Ally was.
I watched both your Asus ROG Ally and this wonderful video for loki max. I dont know which one to choose due to both being absolutely convincing. Can the portable gpu system mentioned in the asus video work with the loki?
Take Loki. ROG Ally has awful small size sticks with input lag and physical deadzones.
Now that the price has been cut , what would be your take on the handheld compared with the others at this price tag?
I have a question I understand that the Loki Max has a mouse mode which is amazing I would love to know does that work well with games on Steam that have partial controller support
What you need to setup to have the performance overlay in windows, like in the video?
I have already the ayaneo air plus and i am quite happy. But this Loki looks really more comfortable. But regarding the screen: in your footage the air plus looks actually more saturated…?
My preorder is with the Loki mini pro but I have no expectations of getting it before it's outdated
I would love if they put the internals of the Odin 2 pro into the hardware of the Loki max.
I like that AYN takes their time to make an amazing product but too bad the market can't wait. I have the GPD win 4, steam deck, and the ally. If this came out sooner, I would have probably purchased it.
Geez dude you got money to blow.
I got an Odin Pro last year and loved it but it just made me want a proper PC handheld more. The Deck is too big for me. The Ayaneo is overpriced. The Loki would have been perfect for me if it came out 6 months ago but instead I fell in love with the GPD Win 4.
@@ransackedfor real...LOL. Like what would be the point of owning all those 3, and then owning this device here when they all are basically identical to one another, minus a few things here and there.
Seriously, who does really believe "delays happened"?
AYN clearly just made announcement in June 2022 waiting for June 2023 finally release it without taking loss for buying expensive tech in 2022.
He set it down crooked at the end on the green mat. 😱
Love my Odin Lite, but the Ally seems a way better and lower cost option than this. And can get it now.
Why are we not seeing more of these newer handheld pc’s with more OLED screens? I really think OLED makes up for lost resolution, especially on the smaller screen
Considering how many games I play using the Touchpad on my Deck, I am surprised that no other handheld computers have that functionality.
I have a GPD win 4 and it also has a touchpad. I recently started playing Gravity Rush on Vita3k emulator and noticed that the emulator doesn't register touch screen like a mouse click and all the menu stuff in that game are touch based. Basically I wouldn't be able to play the game without the touchpad. So glad to have it.
I've been playing god of war at 720p with a much lower tdp than 25. More like 18 or 20 and getting way more than 30fps on my gpd win 4. I wonder why loki is struggling. But I do support ayn and their products either way it goes and I'm excited they're shipping soon.
Same here. I been playing at 14-16w with most settings set to original and played with locked 40fps. I think the difference is that the tests in the video are without any upscaling stuff. I get great performance at low TDP but I use the renderscale stuff at 60%. I may test it out tomorrow. Turn off renderscale and see if I need 25w to reach 30fps.
I preordered the Loki Max over a year ago and still no word on when it will ship to me. 🤷🏽♂️
They learned absolutely nothing from the Odin and Odin lite.
I preordered a Loki mini mendocino and they cancelled the whole SKU recently. 🤦♂ I used the refund to buy an Aya Neo Air Plus 1215U, shipping now. Saved money and getting a better device (performance wise at least).
@@handheldgaming4lifelso managed to got a 1215u air plus at the low price, but it's just 100 units so you can't really use it as a comparison.
I canceled mine and got an ROG Ally instead.
These Chinese companies using Indiegogo to fund the project. They'll make a review unit to big channel and get more business, and then just keep delaying until the next gen product sout already...
I do appreciate they are willing to refund my order though.
As someone who was an early backer of the Eve Spectrum I'd say delays are par for the course for high end tech crowdfunded projects. You'll get it in the end. It'll just be a frustrating experience until then.
if I have the Ayaneo Geek should I get this one?..they both have like similar specs though..maybe I am wrong.
I mean it looks amazing but the slow rollout on another ayn product hurt it this time. With the odin there was nothing at the price to performance level so it did well, but that was on Android... Ayn jumped into a market that they were too slow to keep up with the 6800u handhelds. Some companies are even starting to produce 7840u handhelds while ayn is stuck holding the bag trying to get out this product... Love the looks of the odin and the loki but i don't want to be sitting waiting for a year with a 700 dollar hole in my pocket when i can go to best buy and pick up a rog ally or order another 6800u handheld online and get it delivered in significantly less time...
My attempts to run RCPS3 all crash. I dont think I've played more than 30 min of anything. I keep seeing it tested in these videos when I've been thinking it's not working well enough to be a thing yet.
I wish you had covered it's video-out capabilities here. I really like hybrid handhelds, and I'd like to see what that looks like, how easy it is to handle. Like, Switch is easiest of all of them (you dock it, it's on the TV, you're done fiddling with things). With the Odin, I have to try and sync up a controller, and then I have to try and dock it, and then I usually still have to do something. It's nice, but I wish it was more smooth.
If I remember correctly, Android devices need to restart when they get video out connected. For Windows it's easy. I do it with my GPD Win 4 with a dock. I plug it on the dock and it automatically output video.
@@chamoo232 Wait... is that true? I have an Ayn Odin, with it's dock (or any dock, really), and I don't believe it has to restart? I think you just tell it to do video out, the screen blacks out for a second, it pops up on the TV right where you were, and that's sort of it... you even have to tell it to stop displaying on the Handheld when you do that, otherwise it displays on both screens simultaneously. Shit, now I need to double-check. It's been a minute since I've docked it, lol
@@jessicastoker8932 I just tested it on my Odin. Through the USB-C it just automatically output but if you use the micro HDMI port in the little door on the top it will ask to restart.
@@chamoo232 Ah, that explains it. I almost always dock it. I have the HDMI-out cord, but I think I've used it only once... Overall? If the latency for wireless controllers was better with the Odin, I think I'd play it far more than a I do. I love trying to stream my Xbox to it to play those games portably, but I also really like the idea of being able to set it up on the living room to remotely use my Xbox from my room out there. There's just too many sources of input-latency: the streaming itself, and then the bluetooth controller latency with Odin's. I've tried the 8bitdo adaptor, and it helps, but it feels clunky to need it.
@@jessicastoker8932 I had programs on my Odin to stream my PS4 to it and Steam Link allows the same from my PC but I also barely used it because of the lag. With my GPD Win 4 it's just perfect. Playing games natively is so much better. The controls on the device itself are detected as an xbox360 controller. I think the Odin has some kind of interpreter program built in that converts the button's input to something Android can work with and that's one of the cause of input delay. Even if you play emulators directly on the Odin it still has input delay so if you add streaming on top of that it becomes really noticeable.
When the pastor asks me if I want to take my fiancée as my lawfully wedded wife through sickness and in health I’m going to be like, ‘yeah man I wanna do it.’
Pin this man, Russ!
Lol, always love when he says that
I pre-ordered a year ago and unless you are a big UA-camr the Customer service kinda sucks. I just sent them an email asking what was going on and all they could tell me is I was.part of a later batch of Loki's. I pre-ordered it June 2 2022. Other than that I love my Odin and I am looking forward to 2030 when mine finally arrives. I love their quality, but they need to work on their communication big time. My channel is about 11k subs and I am currently switching my focus to these handhelds(I have way too many😂). Part of my review on these will be shipping times and customer service. Seems Ayn is a small company, but they need to figure this out. At this point the chipset went from being top end to older. By the time.its out there it will be $700 for last.years chip. Bottom line is this will hurt their sales. I paid $650, due to me buying the Odin before. I don't mind waiting but a year is ridiculous. Especially because I am working on a video of my favorite handhelds and due to it's late arrival(whenever that is) It won't make the cut.
I wanna know if the Loki Zero will be able to play PS2/GC NTSC at 1080p 60fps. That would make it the perfect device for me.
I just wasn't happy with my Ayn Odin build quality (maybe I was unlucky) and the fact they haven't updated it since... I feel like if you got this, it's a dead end, whereas the Steam Deck and Ally are going to get more support after your initial purchase.
Are there any docks that would work with the Loki?
The rog is definitely the way to go when it comes to performance.
I'm very tempted by the power and size of this thing but the dicey shipping times are really putting me off it.
Let’s goooo
I think I’m going to have to upgrade my pre-order to the Max. This review gave convinced me
I can see the new switch having these specs
Wow that was fast
Can you please try the xemu emulator for this handheld? Does it even work?
not have anything to do with this video, but i have question Russ. What are in your opinion the best budget friendly retro handheld that can run ps 1 smoothly. Thanks Russ
Rg35xx, miyoo mini... Around 50 bucks.
If you want dual analog sticks - get the rg353vs or rg351p for around 75 bucks.
Seems like it's still a good competitor to the Ally. I do like that it seems to be a little more transportable than the ally and way smaller than the deck
It also allows us to use any gpu dock we want, unlike Ally's proprietary and expensive dock.
It's more transportable that the ally as it's way more smaller than the deck
Did you finally get your Loki?)
lol I am thinking getting this device or not, wile its up their in price its at least is a bit better than some that go over 900+. Still wish it was more afforadable, i could get steamdeck or the rog ally but the Loki max least looks more comfortable and not as big. I mean i have switch oled with nexigo grip that i love but even it isnt as big as steamdeck and rog ally.
Thanks for the review Russ. Overpriced for retro gaming, under batteried and arguably underscreened for upper tier PC gaming ... this skew is not for me. That said if I had money to burn I probably would, it is a pretty cool and well executed design.
ahh RaC, my favourite game series ;)
I preordered on day one June and just got an email to complete purchase today. 🤦🏽♂️
I’m going with the Ally
what is this outro song?
I think Ayn made a mistake with the Loki. The Odin was, and still is, something very special: a ~$200 device with fantastic performance, a great screen/battery, and best WiFi. I think it's basically best-in-class for the "B-Tier" handhelds at such a price. Competing in the "A-Tier" when the Steam Deck and ROG Ally have huge corporate funding / ability to operate on low margins I feel like just lands the Loki lost somewhere amidst the 6,000 AyaNeo models that get released every week. If you buy the Steam Deck or ROG Ally you also get great customer support, warranties that are fulfilled fast when fixes are needed, and constant new rollouts of tools / software upgrades. Until one of these A-Tier devices meaningfully beats the Steam Deck in some way (maybe double the battery life or better cooling/fans, etc.), I just don't know who these devices are for. I'm a very proud supporter of the Odin though!
I should caveat that my comment is from a USA viewpoint. I know the Steam Deck / ROG Ally aren't available easily everywhere worldwide. So maybe this device makes sense in certain countries.
What device would you choose for the same price?
Got my ROG Ally today, and I'm glad I got the Loki Max refunded, 1 year waiting time and still not shipped.
IMHO, Ally really change the PC handheld market landscape with their brand name, price/performance, and their availibility, i really don't see any point in buying similar handheld pc which are more expensive, not more available, and from less well-established brand, they can only compete with steam deck and Ally if they can offer something different.
For example, even now I still see GPD Win 4 as great alternative, because it offers the unique physical keyboard, trackpad, and more IO ports, something that Ally lacks.
waiting time included in the payment xD
Cool but what about the battery life?
How are the Gyros?
its too late for it now, they shoulve focus on the cheaper one 1st so it wouldnt compete with all the new high end ones, asus etc
They messed up. The price of the Loki Mini Pro is now $349 and that's when its not even in Production yet. It might increase in Price before launch. At that point, the Steam Deck base model is a good deal
Will It Play PS2 And Nintendo GameCube Where Can I Find This Handheld
Will It Play On The TV If It Does How?
Hello how are you, please can you show how make ROG Ally controller works on rpcs3 please
Originally ordered the Max but they took the biscuit with delays. So glad I cancelled and got the Ally.
Cant find this for sale anywhere
Let me start by saying this first, I stay in a country where the steam deck is only now available for pre-order, but that ship has long sailed for me, regardless of how everyone is ranting and raving about the deck and the amazing community support I do not consider buying it period, just my personal preference. Nothing wrong with the deck though.
Secondly, all I'm going to say is a lesson well learned, I'm no longer supporting Kickstarter campaigns due to FoMo, I paid full price for my Loki Max and kept my fingers crossed unfortunately, all that was for naught. For the life of me, I do not know why I did not cancel my order with every delay that was announced by AYN. So, at this point, I'm extremely conflicted given that the new Phoenix Point APU is here.
I've decided to skip all Zen4 APU handhelds this year and plan on selling my Loki Max, save some money then wait for AMD's next generation of Zen5 handhelds from reliable manufacturers. Oh well at least I still have my trusted PS Vita (long live the Vita)