In-Depth Guide To Making Wooden Rings On A Cheap Micro-Lathe
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2020
- This video covers how I turn wood rings on a mini-lathe and explains the tool I designed to simplify this process. Hopefully can take some things away or at least find it entertaining!
the 3D print file:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:467...
Right now I am working on a new updated tool, so stay tuned!
I not only liked the "how to" of the rings but even more so, the "how I overcame issues with my lathe". People sharing their creativity is always great. Good job!
Kind words. Thank you so much :D.
Wonderful!
Thanks a lot for the 3d print file. I've been looking for something like that for a month.
Even bought a lathe chuck trying to adapt it without success.
I'll print this piece and hopefully will get everything better!
Thanks again!
I really hope this will solve your problems ! Glad I could help
instablaster
Thank you so much I’ve had the mini lathe for years and I had no use for it.. so now That I’m getting into wood rings I’m going to look for the mini lathe and put it together and try this.. thank you your video is awesome.
Great video and thanks for including the 3d files..
Great video - short and informative. Exactly what I was looking for as I am making rings out of old skateboards (maple). I got a friend to 3D print the mini lathe adapters and they came out great - props for that. Even ordered the same mini lathe - hopefully coming in soon. The only thing I noticed was that the maximum ring size (inner diameter can max. Be ~ 20mm?) I think I will print the adapter again but scaling up by 30% to accommodate for rings with inner diameter of ~ 22- 24 mm. Other than that, nothing but respect, great ideas and wonderfully executed!!
Thanks a lot. What a beautifully put together comment. I tip my hat to you.
Thank you for this video!
I want to start turning rings and I want to do this with such a mini lathe.. most of the videos only show large machines (for diameters of 20cm and more, or 60cm in length..). But for a ring (size 7 on my girlfriend), I don't need a hundred dollar machine.. and now I know it will work 😀
I like this method. It's very fast and efficient. I prefer the veneer rolling method tho because it really shows the beautiful grain of the wood. And it makes a very strong ring.
The points you mentioned all make a lot of sense. But I have to say I would argue that it's oftentimes a lot faster to roll the veneer instead of glueing multiple wood pieces together with epoxy.
Awesome work
Agree, Safety glasses for small parts are for sure needed. Face shield for anything else. My brother told me to always imagine someone throwing the piece at my face as hard as they can and wear the protection I feel I need for this. It's funny, but I had a 9" diameter log fly off and hit my shield. I felt nothing. If I hadn't been wearing it, well I wouldn't be so pretty now.
I totally didn't know about this mini-lathe. To me a "mini-lathe" was a 12 inch swing and 18" bed. I have to get a couple of these now. Got to try making some rings on them, because it seems like overkill to use my larger lathes for rings sometimes. Also, I have friends that love the work I can do and want to try it, but a larger lathe can get quite expensive. These are inexpensive enough to give them the experience without a lot of investment.
I know right :D they really aren't powerful but for rings they do the job 👍🏻. it's nice how much saver they are also simply because they aren't so powerful. I feel like micro lathe or tiny lathe could be a better name 🤔hahaha what do you think.
Great vid
Ive Been making these for years almost exactly the same way you show here except ive been doing it with a drill instead of a lathe. But if I cam really find a mini lathe like that for 30 bucks I'm gunna have to get one! Also ive never tried rolling up veneer but thats definitely my next project now that I see your vid, it seems like it will be very strong
Awesome. I hope you'll have fun 🙌🏻🔥
I managed to pick up a mini lathe on ebay for £26 , not to bad 7 speed settings, I will have a go at ring making looks cool when finished👍
You were the vid I needed all this time, and I'm glad I found you. I use belt straps to hold my mini lathe down, and as for attaching stock, what do you use in the collet?
Hey, fantastic summary and in under 5 minutes no less! Very much appreciated. Would you mind please sharing the 3D print file for the improved toolrest?
You are very welcome! Oh I actually didn't realize I haven't uploaded the tool rest yet. Thx for telling me
I checked but it seems like I already uploaded the toolrest file together with the parts for the ring holder. It's called "toolrest_extention.stl"
so good
For a better ring mandrel, 3D print some ring bushings and use a 1/4-20 rod with nuts to contain them & your ring (1/4 rod will also fit into the tailstock)
That's a fabulous idea but if I understand correctly you won't be able to turn the sides of the ring anymore, right? And I do that every time.
Awesome video👌, can i ask, how do you cut these wooden plates?
Aww man great Idea I didn't even think to use my 3d printer for this thanks.
Happy I could help :D
@@makermind2050 I do have some questions though I printed out the part from Thingiverse I made 3 just incase I break one lol But I don't really understand what the (Some kind of rod or bolt that has a 6mm diameter) and (1mm Steel pin) is for do you have a video showing how you put it together? I can kind of grasp the idea in the video but does the 1mm steel pin go into the 6mm rod and it looks like your rod is hallow does the rod need to be hollow? I really appreciate you doing and showing this for everyone thanks a bunch.
@@alphacat4927 I don't have a more in depth explanation online unfortunately. It actually doesn't really matter what the 6mm piece is as long as it is somewhat stronger than a wood dowl. What will happen over time tho is that the 6mm piece will rotate freely no matter how strong you connect the 3d printer piece to the 6mm piece and that's where the 1mm steel pin comes into play ( a nail will do just fine). You drill through your 6mm tube/rod and then slide it in so that there's a solid connection between the two pieces. Hopefully this explanation is understandable but I am sure together with the video animation it will make sense 👍🏻
@@makermind2050 OK I think at 3:00 I got the idea perfectly but would superglue or epoxy to get the 6mm to not slide work as well I don't think I have a way to drill the 1mm hole into the 6mm rod I bought off of amazon last night lol
@@alphacat4927 just use the strongest glue you got then. If it fails at some point you can always look for solutions again then. Super glueing it worked for quite a while for me.
Thanks for the great idea!
I have a question about the "insert part": When slicing, I noticed a cavity from 16.4 mm to 27.2 mm. It is not clear to me what this is for. What is this void needed for?
¡Gracias amigo!
In my mind I'm thinking of a tool you could put on the lathe that's basically just cylinder that gradually increases in size so no matter what size the ring will fit on it
Great thought. That actually would sound really amazing. But it might be tricky to get the ring to not slip off due to the slope.
@@makermind2050 squared slopes
Hi, is really amazing work :)
Can I ask you how you make proper diameter inside of ring? As you know in USA/EU rings have special size and for example in EU size 12 have 16,3 mm diameter inside. Honestly I tried to grinding inside but is very hard to make proper diameter and keep shape of hole - I made by dremel not on the lathe.
Could you share your knowledge about it?
Thanks
If you drill the inside of the ring far smaller than your final size it indeed can get very crooked as you sand it instead of being perfectly round. For me it seemed to work nicely to know the ring size in advance roughly and drill whatever whole is a bit smaller than the final one 16mm drill bit or 17 or 18 ... whatever is closest. And then I actually sand it with the drill method you see in the video which defenately helps you to get the inside round ...since the sandpaper spins fast. I just mesure it with a caliper and due to the methods above it seems to stay quite round. That's all that I learned so far. Happy ring making and I hope you'll be having a lot of fun!
Nice
Would this work for inlaying, sanding and polishing metal core rings? Great and inspiring work!
Never tried that but I don't see why not.
May I ask what have you used for the metal hollow rods inside? What is the diameter of those, 5mm? Got it printed now, but not wanna smash it by putting something too big inside or loose to wobble. Thanks a lot.
It will become loose after time anyways. ...you need to secure it with a pin, which you can see in the animation if you pay good attention. I used some brass rod that I had laying around ... anything works tho as long as the diameter fits. I can't remember the measurement unfortunately tho.
Great idea. I had been looking for something exactly like this for a while. Files printed out great and the screws and such were easy enough to find and now I’m using it too. Thank you so much. I just had one question. Do a have a version for the next rings sizes up? Can’t use this for some of my bigger rings. Unfortunately scaling doesn’t work because it makes all the holes bigger.
You're not the first to ask this so I'll try to design some bigger sizes later 👍🏻
I now added a smaller and bigger clutch. Sorry that it took so long.
@@makermind2050 I appreciate that. I went to download and print the new ones though and all 3 clutch's are the same size? The new ones are the same as the original.
@@power81005 ah damnit you're right I messed something up with the bigger one. Now it should be fixed and also I added the letter S and B to these alternate versions. I'm truly sorry that you had to print it to find out. But you saved so many others by pointing it out
@@makermind2050 Just looked at the files to print them and the smaller and regular chuck are still the same size when you load the files.
Do you have a link of the wooden boards where you bought yours? I only ever find boring furniture colors. Thanks Daniel
Whit size screws did you use for the 3d print piece? I got a friend to print it for me, and completely forgot to grab the screws for it 😂😂😂 thank you so much for this great video!
Just use whatever screws you have laying around and fit in nicely. I know that purchasing 3 screws usually isn't the cheapest thing to do hahaha. Well if you reaaaally can't find anything I'll check which ones I used.
Nice work mate!
How do you cut these pieces of wood so narrow? I even went to a carpenter store to cut 1cm in a half and he couldn't!
It defenately can be tricky. Best case is that you buy wood with the right thickness. Something like veneers for example. Otherwise it's ofc also possible to make it thicker than intended and just turn it more narrow on the lathe as a final step.
May I ask what carving tools you started with? I ground a regular 6mm chisel into a skew chisel for now but it's not great, and while I could improve I could do a better job with a better starting point (and I could have my 6mm chisel back!) Thanks so much for making this video, and omg amazing work on that zebrano, such brittle wood!!
Glad you liked the video :D. Well I bought some 3.5mm thick wood carving tools from AliExpress. Maybe they aren't the best steel but they do get the job done. I was thinking about experimenting with buying those replaceable blades for chisels and make a tiny one to fit them on. Unfortunately most of the times they are too big tho :(
@@makermind2050 replaceable tips as in carbide inserts? I've no personal experience with them but the impression I got is that they hold their edge much longer than steel but they're never as sharp as regular steel. Masonry drill bits have carbide inserts, you might be able to make something from a small one? Or cut the teeth from a circular saw blade?
@@garybenson interesting thought :D.
Thank you for the great, short video explaining your process. I ordered this mini lathe for my son (he will be turning 11) ... he was really inspired by your video. As for the 3d print - thank you for that too. That's really ingenious. I do have a question, at 3:14 of the video, what is the 'bit' that you have inserted into the end of your 3d print so that the centre tailstock stays put?
So great to hear! Ah... after scrolling through the video a few times I assume you mean the pipe that I inserted into the turquoise part in the animation? I simply did that because the 3D printed hole on the back of it would probably widen and not last forever so to be sure it lasts as long as possible I pushed a metal tube into it as a reinforcement. Feel free to ask if more questions surface ☺️.
@@makermind2050 Thank you - you answered exactly what I was after :-D, however... what diameter pipe did you use and do you think it would be wise to use a 2 part expoxy to secure it in place? I was also thinking about using a flare flangeto flare out the edges a bit? or do you think that's overkill?
@@fivelittlescholarsca118 I would have to check the file to know the diameter exactly but it should be the same diameter as the pipe needed for the other side to mount the 3D print in the chuck. I think in my case the friction was so high inserting the pipe that there's not a chance it will rotate inside the 3D print. Even if it would tho, would that really be a problem? Since this side of the ring holder is supposed to rotate anyways right. Unlike the pipe on the other side that is held in the chuck, that one I only managed to hold in place with a pin, everything else failed time after time.
@@makermind2050 thank you - makes sense. I will tinker abit and see how I go with the 3d print and all the other bits :-D
btw - thank you for the quick reply - that speaks volumes
can you link to the tools you have? i was gonna get carbide tools but theyre so expensive. i know someone said stone carving tools grinded down to a chisel but im wondering how long it holds an edge.
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a.aliexpress.com/_vmvHnP theses are the carving tools I turned into chisels. So far they work great but not sure if that's the best way to approach it.
Cool
hi just purchased Mini Lathe could you recommend turning Mandrel
Drill and bolt a bit of angle to the tool rest to get you closer to the work.
Uh I don't think you meant that ...but you made me think about just bending the aluminium piece a bit towards the lathe. Your idea also makes a lot of sense tho. Thanks :D
You mentioned using acrylic knife blanks instead of wood. I was wondering if that was a lot harder to work with or if it was about the same amount of work as wood. I am a beginner in this kind of thing and would appreciate any help, thanks!
The acrylic blocks are extremely hard so my chisels got dull very quick. But therefore the ring is a lot harder than the wood ones I made and you don't have to glue things together like with the wood. So they have their advantages and problems. It's tough for me to recommend one of the two for beginners. I think you should choose what look you want. Good luck!
@@makermind2050 Ok, thank you so much
I love the accessories but do not have a 3D printer .. any ideas about where to get a plan or have one made. joan
There are maker spaces and loads of websites to order 3D printed parts. Maybe you can find something that suits you. Best of luck to you
Have you made any with a metal core? I have one of these little lathes on its way to me and curious how it does with brass or copper pipe core
I am personally not as much a fan of wood rings with metal so I haven't tried it. Just a personal preference. Hope you'll have a lot fun with it :D
I sold my ender 3 like a year ago. I wish i hadn't so I can print that mandrel lol
Hi I am new to this and struggling to use the chisels as sometime as am shaving the wood it makes a loud noise and kicks the chisel . Can I turn any wood or does it has to be certain kind of wood ? I have some old snooker sticks ,.would that be any good 😊
That sounds like your chisel is for one not sharp enough for the wood you're using and also maybe that the tool rest is too far away if it actually kicks up. There are woods that are harder than others but with a really sharp chisel those aren't a problem to turn either. I have no idea what snooker sticks are made from and how they are made but sounds fun to try :D I could imagine that to actually go well. So for the chisels either you find a way to sharpen them more (or maybe their cutting angle is off? You can Google how chisels are supposed to look like) or you try other chisels. Here is a link for something I ordered once as a test that seemed decent:
a.aliexpress.com/_vpaH09
In any case I wish you loads of fun trying around ✌️
Do you sell these rings? Just curious. I loved the video
Not yet no, but with so many people asking maybe one day ☺️.
Hello,
do you still have anywhere this link to the lathe, cause I can't find this exact machine..
Great video👍👍
a.aliexpress.com/_uzIQqM
@@makermind2050 thx
Can you just turn the basic tool rest round 180 degrees?
I'm planning on getting a lathe machine for making crushed opal rings would a mine lathe be ok I wouldn't need a massive expensive lathe it would just be to sand back and polish the opal when it's on a Tungsten band I just can't find much information on these small lathes
Do know where I can buy replacement thimble for the mini lathe?
If you type in "mini lathe thimble " on AliExpress there seem to be lot's of offers
Hello.. do you make and sell the 3d printed parts you made for your mini lathe? I just got one and those are my 2 issues as well. Thanks for the video, I thought it was something I was doing wrong...
I don't unfortunately. Maybe you can find a service or person to print it for you. Hopefully you can find a solution 👍🏻
@@makermind2050 ok, thank you and thank you for the informative video. 😉
Have ever thought of selling the ring holder for the lathe?
I would like to know too. 😉
Hey mate, would it be possible to get the 3D printable piece in its complete, with all screws ans stuff. Not quite sure where I can print it, but more precisely get the stuff (screws...) that you list to order as well, in Germany?
Nice video btw...came back to it multiple times already.
I unfortunately don't sell them. The effort to make and ship them would be enough to result in a price of around 35$. In my opinion too much for something so small and simpel. But maybe I am wrong and people would still like to get it for that price?
@@makermind2050 possibly. Offering it can't hurt I guess? But maybe there is a similar tool out there already. Believe I saw one made of metal.
@@makermind2050 unfortunately I really cant find a service that would provide a print in a cost efficient manner. Can you recommend one, in the EU or ideal Germany, by any chance?
Hi... How do you make this ring mandrel...do you have Any other video for it? Txs
Unfortunately not no you can pause and look at the animation in more detail if it helps
Any able to tell me what tools he put onto his lathe? I need of someone who knows to help me out lol just bought a lathe for making rings and want all the right equipment
Not sure what you mean by tools I put on the lathe. I barely modified it.
Hello, please tell me where you get the thin wooden boards from ? Greetings from Germany
Such nach funieren. Gibt es in sehr dünn bis zu 3-4 mm ca
@@makermind2050 Do you have a link to where you bought yours? I only ever find boring furniture colors.
Hi, how have you been working on the rings? How do you hold the device on the head?
Not sure that I understood the question. But the chuck on the lathe can hold the shaft with the 3D printed piece on it.
@@makermind2050 Ok!! Thanks for you help.
If you just revers the mounting of the tool rest, you can get closer.
it unfortunately is then too close and doesnt work because of the screwhead
Do you have any small lathe link/ recommendations or a chuk for a bigger lathe
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a.aliexpress.com/_v42F5H this is the one I bought
@@makermind2050 ok thanks just wanted to make sure if i 3d printed it would fit
Does the lathe motor slow down for you too?
Yea it's not a very powerful motor. Your best option is to work with very sharp chisels.
Where can i get the blue colored wood sir?
I bought it as a knife handle blank from AliExpress. Can be quite tricky to find tho.
I have the same lathe and I don't know how to attach the chuck to the lathe
Hi, I have the same lathe but don't have or have access to a 3d printer, would you consider making and selling your mandrel setup I'm really struggling with how to do this easily.
Unfortunately I won't offer these parts to purchase any time soon. There are some people/ companies that offer 3D printing as a service, maybe that will work?
I am going to try printing and gluing my six mm rod. Had you tried that at all?
I have not but I'd be worried about how it holds up long term. But trying it sounds good. Make sure the use the small 1mm pin to lock it because gluing won't last as long.
@@makermind2050 I only plan on doing sanding shopping not actually Turing anything and cutting with chisels so the pressure I’ll exert should be lower than that.
@@schmots Alright sounds great ... I hope you'll have loads of fun :D
@@makermind2050 This has worked great. Thank you for sharing. I did wonder if you ever made a larger and smaller version to handle more ring sizes?
@@schmots not yet no, all rings I made for clients have fit on it.
So where would you go to buy the wood?
The places where I found exotic wood to buy so far are eBay or AliExpress mainly.
what size rings does this 3d printed attachment hold?
I don't know unfortunately. Never measured it
Hi,
Could you share your 3D prints plans?
the link is in the description. happy making!
Any chance you could print and sell the mandrel? I dont have a 3d printer.
Unfortunately I don't do that for now. Maybe you can find a maker space nearby.
@@makermind2050 I'm not sure what a makers space is but I know we dont have one anywhere near here. So I can't buy one of these mandrels from you?
@@codybarnes8241 unfortunately no :/
How can I find the right wood? Can you just buy them in pieces like you use or do you buy larger pieces and process them?
I wouldn't say there's a "right" wood. You can choose whatever you think looks good. It's just that really soft wood like spruce for example is not as strong as other woods. Take your fingernail and press it into the wood this way you can compare woods.
@@makermind2050 What about finding them in the right thickness? (Holy crap that was a quick reply)
@@joeschratz9360 what do you mean? You can turn the ring as thick as you want and will have to try out to see how strong they are. You could just turn a test ring and try to break it with your fingers.
The individual pieces of wood you glue together, are those pieces that you used trimmed down in your shop or do you buy them like that? I have no way of processing wood like that but I would like to make rings with multiple different types of wood.
I'm not really talking about type of wood just concerned if I will be able to put pieces pre cut to that thin size
Do you sell your 3D parts ?
I don't. Maybe you can find a 3D printing service nearby.
Hey I just printed the mandrel. Are you making a video for it still?
I don't think that's necessary. If you are lacking any information feel free to let me know. Then I might put it on the thingiverse description
Just curious what the point of the 1mm pin is?
Also what end of the stretcher goes in towards the chuck? The rounded end or the flat end?
@@patrickdickson4160 it's so that the 6mm rod that everything sits on doesn't slip.
@@patrickdickson4160 the smaller end so that it acts like a wedge
I was wondering if you would be willing to print the tool. since I do not have a 3D printer and I will buy it from you
Unfortunately I don't really do such things. Unless you live here in Munich (Germany). You could look for a maker space nearby or otherwise work with a wooden dowel and shape it to your liking.
That's a shame, I'd buy one too!
do you still have the link to the lathe you are using by any chance??
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@@makermind2050 Would rly like to get your opinion on a lathe I'm havin an eye on, but unfortunately it seems as if I can't share a link here :(
Thanks for your link btw
@@TobbeDraws my Instagram is maker.mind.photos
@@makermind2050 thx just contacted you ;)
Did you upload the print files anywhere? I’d love to print them for my lathe.
Klick on the link in the description. There you'll find all the files 👍🏻
@@makermind2050 I just saw it. Thank you.
Hey quick question where would you recommend getting hardwood from. I'm trying to get into the craft of making rings and don't want to buy cheap wood or overpriced wood. Any advice would help alot thanks!
I always bought knife handle blanks on AliExpress or wood veneers there. With a bit of search you will find the dimensions you want.
@@makermind2050 how long do you normally have to wait for shipping usually? Also would you recommend acrylic blocks and different types of wood blanks?
@@neofxs170 the shipping for me normally takes 2 to 4 weeks.
I am not fully sure what you ment with the last question. Shall I give you some examples of wood types I use?
@@makermind2050 sure That would help a lot thanks
What is the name of this blue wood?
Its a blue dyed kind of plywood. It doesn't have a name
@@makermind2050 thanks
Which mm of wood we can use sir
3mm to {size of wood}
which measurement do you mean? the thickness of the ring itself?
Turn the rest around 180 degrees and now it is close enough
Unfortunately then It's too close and the screw head doesn't allow me to put it in a position in-between those two extremes.
My issue with these little lathe is that u cannot jam the tailstock tight enough... everything will slip
I know that when my contraption slips through and doesn't turn with the lathe anymore, my chisels are dull and I a applied a lot of force. I guess after all this is a tiny motor and it can't do all the work. I'm not a hundred percent sure if you meant that tho. If yes then I have to say I can't think of a solution eventhough I bet there even is one to make it grip the thing better
@@makermind2050 i can't push the tail stock tight enough ... not like a real lathe that has a screw handle on the end. Idk...I guess I'll buy a real lathe 🤦♂️
Turn your tool rest around 180 degrees and then you can move it close enough…
Can you make chess pieces with this lathe? :-D
I wouldn't see why not. Should be a great size for small ones
Turn the tool rest around and you should be able to get closer to your work.
Unfortunately then the tool rest is too close for the rings :(