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In palworld, you can actually give a crap about the pals besides just pretending I’m in an anime being ash (may it be in a negative or positive) because they have more uses and interaction in the world. I remember which pal is better at what task and which one isn’t. If they don’t like doing it they get less efficient so I can either find a pal that would do it better or do things that makes them more happier and efficient. Also… a pal to support that pal in the base because certain tasks require other steps.. Maybe this pal would work well with this one. Sometimes, they may do well but won’t function well because they want to do the same thing. Then the environment. “Ooh no it’s cold let me take out my fire pal before I die.” “Thank you for healing me pal. “ You can generally like a pals(technique(animation)) when doing a task which makes you choose it over another. Let’s not get into the legendary battles and how unforgettable it is catching a jetdragon for the first time for example. Catching a legendary in Pokémon doesn’t give that same feeling rather than yup finally. In Pokémon just level up have the weaknesses and that’s it. Then… In pokemon, it’s only about midmaxing with high IV/EV kill 100 (insert Pokémon) in monotony. Get the 6 Pokémon that are in the meta and just fight in the turned based battle will the soulless attack options. . Your major issue is the fact that you have built so much of a connection with Pokémon that you see palworld as a rip to your identity. You can’t truly be unbiased in this which you indirectly admit in this video. . The game makers have brought out patches fixing many of the game’s issues already in the first two weeks which shows in time we can get more. Already in early access this game is leagues passed what we got out of Pokémon. Pokémon made sales like this because it was the only one… palworld made sails inspire of the people that were enslaved to nothin but nostalgia.
I think he stated his bias best when he sad palworlds problem is that it can and never will be pokemon and he would always wish he was riding a charizard instead. He puts pokemon on such a pedestal that nothing other games do can be seen as better and that he needs pokemon to be the one to do it for him to love it. The bias is so bad its clouding his judgement and preventing him from enjoying whats actually presented to him (even if he admits the good here and there)
To give my own opinion to specifically the last portion of the video. I think the aspects of what you can do with the Pals isnt just a riff on pokemon in of itself and how many of the fandom have stated it to be dog fighting. But it's a play on the concept of if pokemon existed in the real world. I think this becomes more clear if you contrast it to the world of the pokemon games. In them you start out as a child, nearly everyone is friendly, the world isnt dangerous enough for a child to traverse, the creatures represent positive bonds, etc. There are dark moments sure, but they range from either not too cruel like a trainer being a jerk, or something cartoonishly wicked like pokemon mind control for world domination. It is a child's view of these magical creatures and the world they inhabit. And that is fine for what it is. However in PalWorld (not saying it is 100% realistic either ) they take an approach that is part cynicism, part parody, and part realism. They present the logic that if these animals with superpowers existed in the real world, they would (not entirely or in totality) most definitely be used for labor, warfare, be pouched, etc. And this isnt to say that the pals arent sentient, because they are. Just like pokemon they can reject their owner and fight back if they do not like them (which is one of the drawbacks of enslaving them) and do have emotions, so much so even to the point of having sanity meters. This is why the devs give the choice to the player and not force them to be kid with rose colored glasses. I think you are hung up on it's "edge", when really it's presenting agency. Not just in how the player plays "pokemon", but in how they experience the world of "pokemon".
Palworld is a honest Pokemon game and thats why Pokemon fans like Re:Direct hate it. The things is that most Palworld fans are either Pokemon fans themselves, and/or grew up with Pokemon. However, the difference is that they are able to look at Pokemon without the rose colored filtered. One thing you will noticed that Pokemon fans like Re:Direct will always use the Pokemon anime to show how it's morally better, but will never use the Pokemon game. This is because everything they complain about in the Palworld game, is in the Pokemon game. They argue that it's not dog fighting, but I'm pretty sure my lv.5 Ratata doesn't want to the fight Arceus but I'm forcing him to. They say it's not slavery, but if it's that the case, why do I need to use multiple pokeballs or higher grade pokeballs in order to catch the pokemon. On top of this, if I want to increase my chances, I need to beat the shit out of it first. They clearly don't wan't to be captured. He says that pokemon can leave their trainers whenever they want. Every pokemon player has pokemons in their PC that will never see the light of day again. If they do, it's not because their trainer cares about them, it's because their trainer is releasing them to make more room for more pokemon. Ditto is literally used as a sex slave, a breeding machine. Pokemon players catch one Ditto, put it in the daycare, and use it for eggs. The double standards and cognitive dissonance is crazy.
I am just curious why people forget that the game and the anime have shown pokemon getting eaten. They want to say how dark Palworld is but Pokemon if you really look at it, does the Wizard of Oz "dont look behind the curtain" bit and is just as dark.
Well made video. Horribly biased. A lot of your takes are just yapping about how Palworld isn’t more like Pokémon which is ironic considering your belief that their designs being “straight rips” is a bad thing. Whether that is true will be resolved in the future should litigation be pursued and not something for you to unequivocally insist on. The genres are completely different, which is why the emphasis on starting from nothing and climbing to the top (survival premise) is jarring for you. Consider it an opportunity to try different team configurations, base locations, stat builds, playstyle restricted challenges (hardcore/nuzlocke), etc. The game isn’t marketed for children like Pokémon is so expect it to be challenging. Keep the PETA type outrage to real life - it’s like being mad that some games let you shoot people because “murder is bad”. Also, your copium about GameFreak’s future success doesn’t acknowledge that Palworld is still in early access and that Pokémon is at an all time low in the current zeitgeist precisely because of their complacency. Gamefreak has wasted their fanbase’s goodwill by stagnating for a decade+ while Pocket Pair has a comparatively blank slate. Check back in a few months to see if they’ve kept to their roadmap. All in all, I think you’re entitled to your opinion but you should be made aware that you’re in the minority for good reason. The sales don’t lie and Palworld reached 19 million sold in 11 days (January 31st when that announcement was made). Comparatively, Pokémon S&V sold 23.23 million in a full year. What are the chances that Palworld won’t be able or haven’t already surpassed that? You can disagree with Pocket Pair’s design philosophy but you can’t deny their success in catering to players - something that Pokémon no longer does.
“Something that Pokémon no longer does “ but you forget to ask is why ? I recommend shoogles BDSP retrospective in particular around the 5:40:00 ish mark I think I gives the nessasary insight :)
... no. i'm mad that if i want to play with different friends i don't keep my progress. i'm mad that my player isn't what retains my playthrough, whatever world they started in is. unlike pokemon where no matter whose world i'm in i can continue to progress from wherever i left off.
TLDR: palworld isnt just edgy for edge sake, it confronts the player with a lot of the aspects of monster taming that the genre takes for granted or hand wave away with cognagive dissonance. I really think people see the "edge" of palworld and immediately cringe instead of actually engaging with the very valid points that the edgy aspect brings up. People see that your character fights pals themselves and think "how brutal" instead of giving it a second thought of how is making something else fight it different from fighting it yourself? People see pals with guns and scoff but these are sentient creatures, not just animals, so why wouldn't they want weapons to help them fight more effectively, especially when they're the ones on the front lines, and whats the difference between giving a pal a weapon and giving a pokemon a life orb or choice item? Why would a creature that was attacking you a minute ago suddenly be loyal to you just because you beat it into submission and threw a ball at it. For all the talk of pokemon not just being animals, they sure are treated like it. They get eaten, theyre farmed for milk, silk, oil, traded like toys or given away as prizes. If pokemon fighting is not only acceptable, but also ethical because pokemon like to fight, doesnt that mean that these cute creatures are just naturally blood lusted? People recoil at pals being used for labor yet nobody bats an eye at a machamp construction crew or Corviknight taxis, but are the pokemon, which again are sentient creatures, fairly compensated for their labor, or do they just get head pats and berries? Is that not just "nice" slavery? You mention pokemon being able to leave their balls whenever and thay they have all this agency. But thats because the anime has been running for like 20 years constantly sanitizing these aspects, you don't really get that in the games, especially after they removed the move frustration. Pokemon may not listen to you if you dont have enough badges, but are you really developing a relationship with them and earning their respect, or do they just fall in line once you've sufficently proved your capacity for violence by defeating a certain number of strong foes? Hell even Lovander brings up an uncomfortable yet valid point of if these creatures are as intelligent and sentient as humans, would they develop affection for humans? Like yeah its a gross thought, but what is actually the answer? According to palworld the answer is yes, and you better protect yourself. Also, according to pokemon, the answer is also yes, but people forget because it was a throwaway line in diamond and pearl. And to touch on the last part about the game rewarding animal abuse and slavery. Not necessarily? You're given the option of abusive working conditions, but that's not really optimal. You're disincentivised to use humans because they mostly suck as workers and fighters, but you can still catch them because through the logic of the world, the only thing stopping you is morality. Pals get stressed and hurt if you abuse them, cutting into your efficiency and making you feel bad if you empathize with them. In real life, doing the right thing is hardly ever the most effective at furthering your own goals, and things can't be a moral dilemma if you don't have choice. Saying palworld glorifies animal abuse and slavery just seems like pearl clutching because surprise surprise, being an evil bastard is "rewarded" in nearly all video games. Nearly all survival games reward factory farming in the form of mob farms. Nearly all RPGs with stealth and pickpocketing mechanics reward the player for being a Thief or killer, but where is the outrage there?
Y'know, I was pretty ambivalent to Palworld before. I'm satisfied enough with Pokémon and from what little I had seen and heard just didn't want to put on the tone. But wow, that is *definitely* not my jam. I still hope TPC feels a little shook up about it because they *need* to innovate (hopefully to bring the games more in line with other depictions if the world), but that's as much as I hope Palworld gets in my video games. I would love to hear more of your ideas on how Pokémon could innovate, BTW. Also, I like the theory I heard that Pokémon are magical creatures that battle and find "worthy" trainers to become stronger. It feels most in line with how the world is depicted.
i desperately want to make a series of those ideas but i need to commission an editor & ideally some animation/concept art so it’ll take a bit but i will definitely make that series some day lol
I've long disowned Pokemon for their business practices alone. I love it as a franchise, but christ have mercy, the prices they have set for their stuff is outlandish. I knew Palworld would sell at a lower price and go for Early Access the day it was going to come out, and I was not disappointed despite the few bugs I've encountered on my decent PC. Thought I'm getting a new one soon, and then i can play the game the way it should be. Pokemon will have to really pull something off if they want to outsell Palworld at all, and I mean game changing stuff.
i think the business practices you’re speaking of is just a successful brand being priced like a successful brand. as of right now, pokémon doesn’t need to do anything to outsell palworld, palworld is the one in the losing position there. even if we took every steam sell & assume the xbox players included 0 game pass players palworld would still be more than 5 million units behind the latest release from pokemon. a game that has sold 24.36m units at 2x the price. can’t say i blame you for being on the outs with pokémon but we gotta be realistic/honest here lol
@@WatchReDirectBwahahaha The video itself had some outlandish takes amíg some real good ones. But this takes the cake. You are essentially applauding a company for becoming complacent and exploiting you with shit-tier slop. And that after the early-access rant, which is essential in the right just needlessly condescending. Way to shatter the expectation of good faith arguments from your end.
Two questions, 1. Did you compare the anime and manga to Palworld? I am asking that because most of what you said for pokemon being sentient or having choice is non applicable to the mainline games. The best example is the PC box. How many pokemon are in your box and how often do you use them? 2. You have a problem with butchering Pals? We have been eating Pokemon since gen 1. Slowpoke tail, Klawf meat, ham and bacon from Lechonk, Farfetch'd and Basculine's dex entries, etc.
@@WatchReDirect ok so why did you compare Palworld to the Pokemon anime? Thats like saying Mario has more personality NiGHTS because of the Super Mario Super Show. I am asking this question because, no offense, I don't want to watch/listen to the whole video again just for a quick answer.
@@WatchReDirect and why did you do that? At the moment, Palworld doesn't have a tcg or TV series. If Pokemon did something that was better or worse through another medium, then logic would dictate that we have to give the same benefit of the doubt to Palworld. But since Palworld has no other means to express itself in, it is an unfair advantage to Pokemon. Maybe my example was a poor choice earlier, so let's compare Bendy and Cuphead. Would you use the Cuphead Netflix series as a comparison to the Bendy Franchice?
Bro Pokémon ain’t taking down palworld they had 3 years bro it’s been like 2 week since someone said that plus why y’all praying on its downfall like Pokémon has a lot of money to make palworld and it would be 60 dollars and send 36m copies chill down Jamal
calling me "jamal" when my name is on the video several times and all over the page is a bad joke that reads as racist from this side of the screen. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though. that said, no where in this video did i say i wanted palworld to fail. even despite my problems with it. i actually blatantly said the opposite. the plagiarism section saying it COULD fail as a result is not hoping it does lol.
@@WatchReDirect Where you lost me is when you began whining and standing on your soap box at the end of the video lol. No one cares about that virtue signal crap when it comes to good video games
@@WatchReDirectJoke was racist but they have a point tho. Because pokemon could have made something similar, dosent need to have pokemom with lore like the one of lovander or slavery but dosent change the fact that its a fun game and that gamefreak should have done it, closest thing to it is legends arceus but even then i dunno. Also i love how in palworld you can pet and ride your pals which, pokemon has that option in some games but its limited. Don't reduce the ppl that play the game to just "oh they want pokemon but edgy" because that kinda loses the argument. (Oh forgot to mention but i did hear about the buggy online experiences, but i play single player, so i might have a different experience idk)
pokemon took down a pokemon mod for palworld the day the mod came out, if pokemon could do anything to palworld we would already have seen the lawsuits back when palworld first started launching trailers
pokémon sent a c&d to an individual that blatantly uses their copyrighted assets. it takes a bit more to take legal action against a multi million dollar corporation that they suspect uses their assets under the hood in a more discreet manner.
I am gonna bring up a point that nobody wants to acknowledge. Like it, hate it, agree with it, I do not care. But Palworld, for better or worse, I enjoy for the fact that it does let all your choices matter in their own way. You're right. You can make sweat shops. You can be a horible monster that is causing untold horror as you ravage the locales for resources and gold, and mistreat your pals to maximize your gains. Thing is. That choice is the PLAYERS. Yeah, they've capitilized on giving the option to the players in what is basically a sandbox game. But you know something else? They don't DEPICT the actions as being particularly morale ones. Your pals VISIBLY suffer if you mistreat them. If you are willing to do the same kind of things the Sydicate, Pal Alliance, or PIDF are doing. AKA the people that are treated as bandits, butchers, and basically monsters...That speaks more on you as a player. The game allows it much like in a sandbox or genuinely 'open world' type game you can do anything (D&D is a great example). The choices you amke will either weigh upon your soul, or not depending on who you are. Have somethnig more akin to the 'pokemon' relationship wher eyou are working with your pals, or make an unholy nightmare. Pocket Pair have given you the tools to do either. And both do have their benefits.
is pokemon still 60 without dlc? prize is also a factor for people to try palworld out. I stopped playing palworld at 200 hours and for 20 dollars thats good value
yes. & agreed, that's mostly why i'm confused by the suggestions online that palworld's success means it supplanted in any real way. more people chose to spend more money on pokemon than are choosing to spend on palworld. that's not to say what palworld has done isn't impressive, it's just to say what palworld has done is different from what the online narrative suggests.
Pokemon's sales are effectively doubled, or at least multiplied by 1.5, based on the expectation that many fans will buy both "versions" when a game comes out in multiple iterations with negligible differences. Any comparison of a Pokemon generation's main games output to the sales of any other videogame is skewed as such, and a couple other games have tried aping this scummy sales tactic but none have succeeded at it.
@@RoninCatholic this is an unsubstantiated straw man. no legitimate data i have ever seen has suggested that anywhere close to half of the sales of pokemon games comes from people double dipping. have YOU ever double dipped? can you name even 5 people you know personally that do? because i can't and i have been talking about pokemon on the internet for a living for nearly 10 years now. THAT SAID, even IF even HALF of the people that buy pokemon games actually do this, 12 million people spending $120 (or potentially more 'cause tax) on ONE video game for an entire generation is a way more positive sign than 12 million people spending $30 once. so even if it's true, it just speaks to how successful pokemon truly is. but again, it's likely VERY inflated.
@@WatchReDirect right, S&V both looks awful and performs awful on hardware that has been out for years with better looking and better performing games, because GF and TPC were learning from their peers. They have the possibility of more resources than any other studio, and rather than making anything resembling a AAA product, they make games that don't even hold up well against the indie market. Because they learn from their peers. No. They have a formula that creates revenue and they have no intention of deviating from it so long as it's working.
The only thing I got from that entire vid was that you don't like Palworld not because it's a bad game or such, you don't like it because it's not Pokemon and you hate how well it does the genre of monster catching. Game Freak and Nintendo deserve this after a decade of declining game quality and complacency. You are entitled to your opinions but don't pretend to be neutral in this.
@@WatchReDirectYou are forgetting the part that Pokémon hasn’t actually innovated and is playing like a ps2 game currently. Palworld has a small team and literally looked better than pokemon in early access. A team like this with the skill they have doing this much makes the Pokémon franchise look horrible. . People purposely planned to boycott this game which only made it stronger when people actually played it.
PalWorld is taking a dump on Pokemon because its obvious that Palworld was created with love and fun in mind. Pokemon originally was the same but has became corporate that pumps out mediocre gameplay & power creep in order to keep their audience engaged. Palworld was basically made out of someone's basement and its still in pre-release lol. With the recent profits they made with this surge of sales, I expect Palworld's gameplay and performance to improve dramatically over time. And pokemon's lore and worldbuilding is actually pretty mid tier in comparison to other franchises that have been around just as long lol. Pokemon has survived off its gameplay, no one cares about its story
12:42 Palworld: Literally Early Access. They even warn you about bugs. Pokemon: There are more egregious bugs, and you know it. Supposed to be a "finished" game with a multimillion dollar budget.
it’s funny that this position as if i didn’t talk about all of the above. name literally one “egregious” bug you have experienced during your time playing pokémon. because in my ~30 hours of recorded palworld gameplay i have experienced significantly more & worse bugs than i have in 500 on pokémon. none of that is to say either is ok - but it sure does illustrate people pick & choose when a game’s performance matters to them lol. if you’re such performance snobs, EaRlY aCceSs should be unplayable garbage to you as well 🫡
@WatchReDirect no one is saying either is acceptable. The big difference is that part of the point of Palworld's early access is so the devs can fix any reported problems. Because they actually care about the game and their audience. EaRlY AccEsS... currently has 19 million people backing game it up so the final product will be better. And just because you had a miracle happen to you where you supposedly had a clean playthough of scarlet and violet doesn't mean those egregious problems don't exist. Even beyond bugs and glitches, which is not the only problem. There's plenty of videos of people having game-breaking mishaps. And that's a 70$ game
@@Anonymous_Hayabusa it’s not a $70 game first of all lol. 2nd of all early access is not a necessity in any situation, it was a choice they made to be able to monetize their game’s development. & it’s not a “miracle run” a video showcasing “plenty if game breaking bugs” is only notable because the bugs they showcase ISN’T the norm for the 24 million people playing the video game. i have listed in detail just some of the actual game breaking bugs i experienced in palworld but for some reason you haven’t named one you experienced in pokémon?
@WatchReDirect Regardless of how much it is, it's more than Palworld, and it's not worth it. And I never said early access was a necessity in ANY situation. I said it was part of helping this game get better. The norm for Pokémon Scarlet and Violet is that it's a bad game. At this point, Palworld is just better Pokémon, and Nintendo stans are salty to the point of defending their multimillion dollar slop. Palworld has real potential. It's the "Pokémon game" we've been waiting for. A breath of fresh air in an oversanitized genre. And you know what? Even the problems you had in Palworld aren't the norm, cause my experience with the game as been pretty much smooth the past week of over 60 hours. And I play on gamepass. Yet, I still recognize the problems that exist. Funny how you don't with Pokémon
i think it’s hilarious that you think me pointing out how much more successful pokemon objectively is constitutes as me defending it when i spent a sizable portion of this video criticizing pokemon & praising palword despite ultimately disliking it. but yeah *i’m* the stan here lmao
The fact that you are comparing a big name big budget phenomenon like pokemon to an indie game that hasnt even released properly from no name devs and the stupidest backstory is where the criticism lies. Palworld is by no means perfect. It has bugs and issues that need to be ironed out. I agree with you there. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. The sentiment from I have seen is that how come an indie self early access game feels so much more complete and (subjectively) more fun than anything the AAA industry has given us in years. Even if the state palworld is currently in was a full release it would still be miles more polished than the likes of battlefield 42 or cyberpunk (which i love) were at launch. The triumph of palworld doesnt come from it providing the best game to ever exist, its flawed as hell. Rather how the devs gave a better experience than companies 10 times their size and budgets do. I have never played pokemon. I loved the anime when i was a child and the games wouldve been childhood gems but i am now a 20 something year old spoiled by the best of the best games out there. Seeing the modern pokemon games just isnt appealing to me. I know switch is capable of better because i have played zeldas on it. Seeing the new pokemon reminds me os my ps2 games, i think it is safe to say they stopped pushing the envelope and rested on their rested on their laurels too long. Palworld isnt free from any valid criticisms it gets obv. I want this game to be better because it is already leagues above its peers and with pokemon being the monopoly in the creature catching genre, I am happy to see a fun new take. Pokemon isnt going anywhere. And that simple fact is the very reason those games have become so stale. I can only tell you those games look like shit because they really aren't my cup of tea but I have been reading and hearing a lot of outcry from the core pokemon community that the games are just mid. That is what monopoly does lol. palworld isnt pokemon wit guns. Pokemon is palworld without the guns, base building, survivial mechanics, good traversal or really anything. It's like saying "The witcher is gwent with swords"
the fact that you opened this by saying comparing the 2 is the “stupidest” thing to do & then proceeded to do the same thing is hilarious. just keep it real, you’re not mad at the comparison, you’re mad it’s not favorable for palworld. if you just want confirmation bias, i’m positive you can find it elsewhere lol
@@WatchReDirect I'm not saying comparing the two is stupid. I'm saying the fact that those two are even comparable is exactly the problem with the modern AAA space. I'm sorry if I was confusing 😅
33:12 Wrong. Lovander is a blatant obvious rip from the Pokemon name Salazzle. Salazzle is a unapologetic horny Pokemon design and to the extent that Nintendo will allow, is also canonically a horny Pokemon. Multiple of it Poke entires will referring a single female Salazzle will have a harem of male Salazzles that server it every need. Then you have Lovander which take Salazzle hilarious idea of being an excessively horny lizard in a children game and turn it up to 11 because Palworld isn't made for kids. It Paldeck entire while not stating it obviously, HEAVILY Imply that Lovander will chase down literally anything with a pulse for the express purpose of "Night of Love". It pretty obvious that Palworld is a game that parodying Pokemon by using their prominent controversy from the last 20+ years by out of touch Boomers and it peculiar Ideas from it. Like catching human in the Pal Sphere. It a parody how in Pokemon were you throw a Pokeball at a trainer it will tell you "you can't catch a trainer." I'm surprise you didn't realize that and you shouldn't be shock about it either since they didn't hide it.
a pokemon desiring other pokemon is not the same as a pokemon lusting after humans. the comparison in the video was intentionally chosen to showcase a pokémon example that is similarly as bad & to illustrate the only reason it GETS that bad is the fanbase. lovander is yet another example of others making their cursed insinuation into reality which is the problem. the “parody” excuse is moot when it is presented in context in the way that it is. there’s always a point in attempting to do something “ironically” that results in just blatantly doing the thing. tl;dr designing beastiality into your game is a bad “joke” that was executed poorly.
@@WatchReDirect One is design as a horny lizard, the other is design as a horny lizard. The two examples you use is basic on fan head cannon that you have an issue with. That is unrelated to the intent from both studios for how they went into designing those lizards. Just because you find one of them tasteful doesn't excuse what there were going for. You may find it poorly executed but other may not. Pals are the polar opposite or some may argue parody from what you expect Pokemon to be from just reading there Paldeck and how they interact in the wild.
I'm interested in Palworld but haven't really had the time or money to play it. I don't have an Xbox anymore and if I do decide to play it on PC, I might as well get it on Steam. From what I've seen of it, it looks like some people's kind of fun but maybe not specifically mine since I'm not really into the base-building survival type stuff.
Probably you will end up with the best deal! It's really early-acces and rough around the edges. The hype and controversy is stupid and overblown around it... you will have time to see if Pocket Pair really follows through with the development now that they have tons of money. As far as the survival game aspect goes... I really love Valheim and found Palworld underwhelming initially. However while definitely using the skeleton of ARK Survival Evolved with Pokémon as the muscles and hook, it doesn't really play like a survival game and gets all the better for it. The automation is where it gets really good. With the Pals helping around the base, the detail in their animations... the smile after a job well done, Depresso's messed up sleep schedule. You can really forge a bond with them. And while the annoying crowd really goes in for the shock-humor exploitative methods, your home can be a wholesome community as well and has its own benefits. However if you are not in a rush do to friends to play together, I'd recommend to wait. The pathfinding AI needs improvements... and while it's funny in it's own way to watch them get stuck, babysitting jank gets tedious quickly. Great concept, and mechanically meshes it's several inspirations well, while adorably obvious in presentation. But really would benefit from a ton of polish. So far I'm happy with my purchase, but definitely not main game yet and will wait a bit until investing significant time.
@@janosd4nukeThanks for the heads-up! I do want to try it eventually and I'd feel a lot better knowing there are ways you can automate things. I'll definitely wait for a more stable version or even the final release so I can get the best experience.
someone doesnt know what salazzle is.... or what early access means. ANyone has a right to judge the product they paid for but the point of early access is to play test for people to experience a game early while giving feedback so it gets fixed. Its not blind faith that players expect palworld to get better, its called an unfinished game being developed and improving because thats how it works. Its expected for unfinished games to have issues, no duh, you arent making a point other than stating another fix on the to-do list. You cant compare the sentience of pokemon in the anime when the games dont actually represent that level of detail. EVen then pals are more expressive than pokemon since they too can decide not to work, get sad when mistreated and several other little interactions that show they are intelligent and free thinking. Its rather dumb to make such a comparison when palworld doesnt have an animated series to depict their personalities (though we already have a good enough idea from the games expressive interactions) BTW you arent encouraged to be cruel to your pals. SIck and depressed pals work less so keeping them happy and healthy is the most mutually beneficial thing you can do. The psychopaths enjoy it but the options exist mostly for the sake of realism and adding consequences to poor management skills. Nature is cruel and unforgiving, palworld doesnt hide it unlike pokemon that pretends the world is perfect and that all its creatures enjoy stockholm syndrome. (human pals are also worthless so you wouldn't want to capture them outside of merchants for utility.
Someone doesn't know that it is canon some people who marry/"do" their pokemon in the pokemon universe. Oops. Also, complaining about "slavery" where it is very much optional is hilarious since slavery also exists, canonically, in pokemon as well...you are cherry picking, and at worse, are one of those who you claim are on "one side".
show me where it is said that either of these things is true. not vaguely implied. plainly stated. also, when do you enslave humans in pokemon games? i’ll wait :)
@@WatchReDirect You're not going to get sex plainly stated in a kid's franchise, it has to be implied...how stupid are you, exactly? Apparently, very, since you want an example specific from the games when I said the "pokemon UNIVERSE"...nor did I specifically mention HUMAN slavery.
@@WatchReDirect Pokemon Diamond/Pearl and Platinum Sinnoh Folk Story 3 outright states in the original japanese that people married their pokemon. If they got married, they obviously did the deed. Pokemon Gold doesn't have HUMAN slavery, no one mentioned specifically human slavery, but it sure has pokemon in it. Team Rocket's base at Lake Rage has electrodes powering a power plant...and if we know anything about team rocket, they aren't exactly doing it voluntarily.
About the whole bug thing you have to understand that first It's Xbox problem my mid PC never have a crash with 20 mod on And there been 4 patch in a span of 2 week when they said they're working on it they actually did this is no man's sky story but without severely broken part and 60$ price tag
i think it being an “xbox thing” is a bad excuse because series x is significantly more powerful than most people’s pc’s, let alone the nintendo switch system so this video game crashing series x more than pokemon crashes on my switch is the crazy part & 0% grace is afforded to the former when neither in my opinion should be excused if both aren’t.
One of your points i would like to respond to is is your protests aginst the evil a player can take part in I feel its important for that choice to be available because it makes it an actual choice i chose to be good to my magic animals if im forced to be the good guy it dosnt have the same impact Frustration is a confusing move because of how unviable it is in general due to how friendship works while Return is viable on any pokemon you spend significant time training Will edgelords be edgelords? Yes they are choosing to live out a fantasy that would be inappropriate in real life dose that make them bad people? I donno maybe but maybe they just need a space to get itt out of thier system I just find the "you can do evil things" arguments agist any video game ridiculous because in most cases it improves how not being evil feels Im not responding to the creature design controversies because im tired of this talking point Everything else ok fair come back next year see if you still hate the game for the reasons derived from its almost complete state
@WatchReDirect i appreciate your reply. I am at an age where choice in games matters to me, and while I love Pokemon, Palworld actually lets me feel like a good guy by the choices I made. I'm glad Palworld came out in 2024 and not 2025
100% agree evil/bad stuff is real and having them in the game I think enhances gameplay. Why would they put meds in the game if they didn't want to give you the option to care for your pals. I hope they put both more good and bad into the game like this, seeing what people do is interesting
There isn't a problem. Pokemon took itself out. Palworld is just doing what the fans yearned for all these years. I don't agree with the bug/performance part. It is early access, bugs are expected. You did not bring up the fact that both games are made different. Pokemon is meant to sustain itself in a mini card to be made on the go. Palworld (steam) isn't meant to go anywhere (aside from steam deck) so bugs are expected. Also, they are working on it consistently and a lt a cycling rate. Take a look at fortnire early access and how successful it is now. Lost massive amount of interest when you brought up the copy right/stealing parts. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ let the lawyers handle that and being that the game has been making moves for 3-4 years there is a clear line that they are here to stay.
@@WatchReDirect Dont get me wrong I am a fan just like the next guy and you seem to have a bias leaning towards pokemon which is okay. Looking at this objectively, Pokemon hasn't produced anything good in 10years. They have the capability and choose not to. Palworld, pocketpair, with their small budget had a stellar opening. Your comparisons of the games opening days were by far incomparable. Today's gaming market and last millennium market were by far different. Palworld has opened pandoras box. Pokemon kept tethering around it for $$$$$$. Pokemon sells merchandise, movies, nostalgia, target audience kids. Palsworld just started let them build up. Again, I hope pokemon takes a huge hit on their gaming platform and gaming mechanics since it has been trash all of these years. They need to evolve if they want to be relevant. Just my take. I bought violet with none of the expansions and I was disappointed.
@Legend7 i want nothing more than for pokemon to be motivated to invest more in their games and have been yelling about it since people on here were scoffing and saying all they want is the 3ds games in hd on switch. nobody wants them to innovate more than me. that said, gotta call a spade a spade. palworld as it stands is a dime a dozen situation. there are SO many ripoff franchises that start hot off the backs of scorned fans wanting better (yokai watch, temtem, multiversus, etc, etc) that all eventually sizzle out. people claiming any sort of victory here are ignoring that history. the irony here is this video is filled with criticism of both games but the palworld fans seem to think palworld can do no wrong - just in the way you are insinuated every pokemon fan is.
@@WatchReDirect If PW had been out for 5yrs with no real direction then yes I would beat it up for answers. But it's been barely a month and they have shown promise. Pokemon doesn't get the same treatment. I dare say they are obligated at this point to give us what we deserve since we expect a lot more for their 92 BILLION Networth. You would think they would push for next Gen gaming console to sustain such a transformation. This is what I truly think.
Bro, Pocket Pair was about to go bankrupt. They had to relase early access to eat. If you think you're being exploited for playing an unfinished game, nobody made you do it. Also, its sad to see people spreading actual misinformation. The guy who did the model comparison literally admitted to resizing the models to make them line up better. Heck, sonic and mario line up just as well as the pokemon palworld model comparison. As for the slavery thing, I always find it odd when people get upset when they have the option to do terrible things in games. Nobody's making you work your pokemon under harsh conditions and nobody's making you butcher them. They work better if they're happy, and it's your choice whether to do that or not. Isn't having a strong bond with your pet more meaningful when its because of choices tou made instead of pressing menu buttons for a dozen hours and being told you won because of a bond you never see? If you blame the game for the way pals are treated by players, do you blame Tears of thr Kingdom for the way players treat Koroks? And you even admit that you don't like Pal world simply for not being Pokemon. There's nothing wrong with that, but when that's the emotional core for your argument, I'm not sure why you expect people to agree with you.
there are several points in this comment where you blatantly misrepresent what i say in the video so i’m gonna choose not to respond to any of those “points” all i’ll say is they didn’t almost go bankrupt lmao. & even if they did it would be for the fact that they themselves decided they weren’t going to budget their game.
@@WatchReDirect TEST That's the first comment of mine to get through youtube's shadow filter. I'll try to break up the rest of my reply to figure out what's getting it flagged.
@@WatchReDirect If this comment goes through, it was the link that flagged it. The first result for 'pocket pair bankruptcy' goes to a GamesHorizon article that goes over Pocket Pair's statements about how they didn't know if they'd be forced to go bankrupt even after releasing the alpha.
@@WatchReDirect It was the link that did it. The rest of my reply is here. With this in mind, what do you mean 'didn't budget'? They're a company that spends money on salaries almost exclusively. Did you expect them to cut the salaries of their employees in half at the start of development as their budgeting? They aren't a AAA studio that has the benefit of being able to hire as many people as needed to finish a game within a development cycle. Pocket pair had to make a decision: either borrow money and go into the red for a game they didn't even know would be successful or release an alpha so they could make money immediately and continue development only if the early access made enough for them to avoid immediate bankruptcy. Pokemon doesn't have that excuse for a poor product. They have billions of dollars and there are thousands of devs that would drop everything to work on a pokemon game. They could easily quintuple the size of their development team and make all that money back and then some. And yes, I did say excuse. Palworld still deserves criticism for the buggy state it was released in, just as any show that was cancelled deserves criticism for an unfinished story. But you specifically said you feel exploited for debugging their game, which is an insane misrepresentation behind why the game was actually released in an alpha state. And what am I blatantly misrepresenting? Because I can assure you that it was not intentional. I responded to the points of your video as I perceived them. Do you feel that you were not spreading misinformation with the comments about model ripping and AI? Because unless you've found new evidence, all of these allegations are either falsified or baseless. Do you feel I misrepresented your argument about exploitation? Did you feel my comparison with TotK was innacurate? If so, Skyrim is probably a better example, as a game that allows you to rob and kill people with impunity. but the community doesn't blame the game for players who choose to kill every named NPC in the world. Do you feel that calling your bias for Pokemon the 'emotional core of your argument' was misrepresentative? Your entire video is filled with bias for Pokemon, from early on where you admit that flying around on a pal isn't satisfying because it isn't Charizard, to when you make double standard arguments like saying Pokemon does nothing wrong because Pokemon enjoy fighting, while pals who enjoy both fighting and helping are completely different. Me saying that your bias is the core of your argument is me calling you out. If the next Pokemon game included showing your Pokemon help you cook and set up camp at night, you wouldn't bat an eye because it's clear that they're doing it because they want to. A palworld player has the option to mistreat their pals, but can also keep them happy, and isn't making the active choice to keep you companions happy better than having it taken out of your hands? One facet of your issue seems to be a lack of condemnation, since you gave it some credit for pointing out that capturing humans is considered immoral in-game. I disagree with this idea. Let's take Undertale. I think it was a good game, and I like a lot of what it did, but the messaging was ham-fisted. In the genocide route, you're criticized for killing and made out to be an omnicidal monster, but the only two people you kill who aren't actively trying to attack you back are Papyrus and Monster kid, both of whom are still trying to stop you. The only NPCs you encounter that don't try to fight you, the game doesn't even allow you to try to attack them. Yet it still gives a long-winded speech about the obsession with making numbers go up at any cost, which is especially off color since most people only do the genocide route to fight Sans. In my opinion, adding this kind of blunt-force feel-bad messaging to Palworld would ruin it. A core part of the game's concept is that it allows you to approach these things however you want, and guilt tripping you for those decisions would undermine that.
PalWorld is taking a dump on Pokemon because its obvious that Palworld was created with love and fun in mind. Pokemon originally was the same but has became corporate that pumps out mediocre gameplay & power creep in order to keep their audience engaged. Palworld was basically made out of someone's basement and its still in pre-release lol. With the recent profits they made with this surge of sales, I expect Palworld's gameplay and performance to improve dramatically over time. And pokemon's lore and worldbuilding is actually pretty mid tier in comparison to other franchises that have been around just as long lol. Pokemon has survived off its gameplay, no one cares about its story
I like the approach your video took regarding this whole ordeal. It's unlike most Pokemon VS Palworld comments/videos where most of the arguments are relatively black and white mostly devolving into debates that mostly go like this: Modern Pokémon good cause blind love for the franchise, Palworld bad cause it steals designs/being unoriginal or Modern Pokemon bad cause the graphics/techincal/gameplay aspects are crap/outdated, Palworld good cause it 'innovates' the monster taming genre/'competiting' with Pokémon. You actively criticise and praise both games when necessary in a good amount of detail. It makes the video less of a hit piece on Palworld and more of an opinionated, overall evaluation of the game and the 'controversy' surrounding it.
I think Lovander is really gross and I hate it, easily my least favorite Pal _but_ I think within the context of an edgy game made for older teens and adults it's less inappropriate than the objectively "more tasteful" but behaviorally identical Salazzle from Pokemon. I'll also defend to some extend the design decision to leave certain options open (like mistreating your Pals, running actual harsh slave camps, butchering humans) in part because these can be funny and in part because they tend to either give no benefits or act as an actual detriment to the gameplay loop of actually accomplishing your goals.
As someone who has played and is enjoying Palworld, it is sad your experience has muddled your view but that's how it be. But that's ok. As for the Xbox/Gamepass experience I can't be completely empathetic because I got it on Steam but I've heard Microsoft is trying to assist Pocket Pair in getting patches and updates out, so I do hope the experience improves as the game's lifespan goes on. As for the suing/takedown of Palworld, if that does happen it's fine. I think most can agree this game has definitely flown too close to the sun. But until that does/doesn't occur I'll just keep enjoying the fun and the gameplay loop.
Pretty good video as always man. I have been playing it on my Xbox one X and its been pretty fun. The survival aspect of the game is really cools, only really played one other game like Palworld and that would be State of Decay 2. Having to manage so many things was a bit overwhelming in the beginning. But I got used to it after long. Ive only been playing the game for about 3 days now. As for the whole Pokemon vs Palworld thing. I still like both I guess. Lol i just get lost in both games anyway. But yeah, I agree with the points made and get where you are coming from especially the quality of Palworld. I haven't had any crashes yet but Im still enjoying the game. Lol
Bro is trash talking a 30$ indie game for bugs (that they fix and update for free) and defending a 60$ + 30$DLC AAA game for the same bugs (that nintendo will never fix and charge another 60 for next years broken mess)
Completely off-topic. But what does lived experience mean? Can you have not lived experiences? Experience is something you have to have experienced. It can only be lived otherwise it wouldn't be an experience, but something you learned. Also another point. I do not care about your criticism - but, when you said early access isn't an excuse because you paid money for it, only to later say you are glad you didn't pay money for it because it was on gamepass, you are being a hypocrite. Either it's one or the other, you can't have both. And no, saying you paid for gamepass is not an out, because than you should still have said that you exclusively got gamepass for this game and not that you are happy that you didn't give them any money because of gamepass.
no, because it costs money to access the product they made money for the product i paid microsoft to access the product who paid them. less of MY money goes to them, which i am happy about but my money still was required to play. that’s not me being a hypocrite that’s you being a bit slow which is ok :)
@@WatchReDirect Then you shouldn't be glad that you paid no money because you paid money, it doesn't matter if it's through Microsoft or not. You can't have your cake and eat it. Honestly just take the L and don't try to do this intellectual dishonest tirade nobody is buying. Also my accusation was based on something I noticed and thoroughly explained. The last bit of your comment is a pure ad hominem attack on me. I get that being called out doesn't feel good, but there is winning in taking L's gracefully and just flinging shit onto the messenger. That's just childish.
Performance issues is a big problem for me, im spoiled asf, if im using mouse and keyboard to control any type of fpp or tpp control type i have to be running 120fps or more. It's just something that I've grown used to in 60 doesn't feel right anymore. On a controller and smaller screen like a handheld i can tolerate 45 and lower but avoid combat situations or Anything fast paced if possible. Im fortunate enough to have a powerful machine to be able to run this at 144 FPS locked, there are some rare instances where it will lock up and chug at 2fps. I have a feeling that has to do with memory leaks, since this seems to happen after an extended period of time. This happens faster on my steam deck. This could also be the reason why Xbox crashes so often since it has a lower amount of memory to work with
@@WatchReDirect that's a fair point since switch hardware is still in the Wii U, xbox 360, ps3 gen. But if it crashes and chugs on my $1800 pc build (though rarely) and after a few minutes of gameplay sometimes on a steam deck, xbox being behind on updates, it makes sense it will run in a worse state. Im running 16gb of DDR4 memory. An RX7900XT And an RX5800X3D So ive got decent enough hardware to brute force through performance issues. But even with all that i still run into frame drops and even the game locking up my session altogether forcing a reboot. Given some time to fix these issues. Palworld may just run better than any AAA title released recently.
There’s been more than enough time for pokemon to take palworld down. They would’ve done it before they made any money, because they already knew of the game and would have investigated if they thought they had a case.
Great video! I can tell You out alot of work into it. With that said, some of your arguments are realllllly a stretch and show your bias for pokemon (which is totally okay, it’s your video) but yeah, I didn’t agree with a lot of the arguments. Very very well put together video regardless! Thanks for the entertainment 😊
thanks! i think bias is natural & is inescapable on both sides (clearly, your comment is pretty palword-coded lol) but i appreciate the (what reads like) backhanded compliment!
@@WatchReDirect Actually I’m a huge pokemon fan. I don’t think I’ll even play Palword, ha . I think you had some excellent points to make pokemon better with what Pal did. It wasn’t meant to be a backhanded compliment. It’s a compliment on your effort and skill to make this video, as well as some great points you brought up , while just pointing out that I felt you stretched on some things and simply disagreed. Keep up the good work!
PalWorld is taking a dump on Pokemon because its obvious that Palworld was created with love and fun in mind. Pokemon originally was the same but has became corporate that pumps out mediocre gameplay & power creep in order to keep their audience engaged. Palworld was basically made out of someone's basement and its still in pre-release lol. With the recent profits they made with this surge of sales, I expect Palworld's gameplay and performance to improve dramatically over time. And pokemon's lore and worldbuilding is actually pretty mid tier in comparison to other franchises that have been around just as long lol. Pokemon has survived off its gameplay, no one cares about its story
I’m happy to of found a vid like this all my feed just seems like palworld good Pokemon trash or GF freak is lazy even though palworlds success could very well be derived from what it based its self on off topic but someone dead ass called me poor cause I didn’t want to play palworld , Pokemon fans can be toxic but some palworld ones are fighting for first 😭
1. i said one bug that impacted my experience 2. i have streamed &/or recorded my gameplay for 100s of hours. i have several witnesses. but sure, i’m the one “coping”
Great video! Love the perspective you offered as a Pokémon fan who isn’t just angry online, lot of very well thought out points here. It’s a shame that palworld isnt better, would be great for Pokémon to have a real competitor that drives them forward
thanks, trev! agreed! if palworld was good & lacked the baggage it’d be so much easier to believe it could be what scorned pokemon fans rallying behind palworld claim it is or will be. unfortunately they tried to just use their “parody” trojan horse as the bulk of their offering & that just resulted in a half assed product that lacks any sort of identity of its own
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Nintendo switch is garbage lmaooooooooooooo 😂😂😂😂
Playstation portal sold well 🤣
In palworld, you can actually give a crap about the pals besides just pretending I’m in an anime being ash (may it be in a negative or positive) because they have more uses and interaction in the world. I remember which pal is better at what task and which one isn’t. If they don’t like doing it they get less efficient so I can either find a pal that would do it better or do things that makes them more happier and efficient. Also… a pal to support that pal in the base because certain tasks require other steps.. Maybe this pal would work well with this one. Sometimes, they may do well but won’t function well because they want to do the same thing. Then the environment. “Ooh no it’s cold let me take out my fire pal before I die.” “Thank you for healing me pal. “
You can generally like a pals(technique(animation)) when doing a task which makes you choose it over another. Let’s not get into the legendary battles and how unforgettable it is catching a jetdragon for the first time for example.
Catching a legendary in Pokémon doesn’t give that same feeling rather than yup finally. In Pokémon just level up have the weaknesses and that’s it.
Then…
In pokemon, it’s only about midmaxing with high IV/EV kill 100 (insert Pokémon) in monotony. Get the 6 Pokémon that are in the meta and just fight in the turned based battle will the soulless attack options.
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Your major issue is the fact that you have built so much of a connection with Pokémon that you see palworld as a rip to your identity. You can’t truly be unbiased in this which you indirectly admit in this video.
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The game makers have brought out patches fixing many of the game’s issues already in the first two weeks which shows in time we can get more. Already in early access this game is leagues passed what we got out of Pokémon. Pokémon made sales like this because it was the only one… palworld made sails inspire of the people that were enslaved to nothin but nostalgia.
I think he stated his bias best when he sad palworlds problem is that it can and never will be pokemon and he would always wish he was riding a charizard instead. He puts pokemon on such a pedestal that nothing other games do can be seen as better and that he needs pokemon to be the one to do it for him to love it. The bias is so bad its clouding his judgement and preventing him from enjoying whats actually presented to him (even if he admits the good here and there)
To give my own opinion to specifically the last portion of the video. I think the aspects of what you can do with the Pals isnt just a riff on pokemon in of itself and how many of the fandom have stated it to be dog fighting. But it's a play on the concept of if pokemon existed in the real world. I think this becomes more clear if you contrast it to the world of the pokemon games. In them you start out as a child, nearly everyone is friendly, the world isnt dangerous enough for a child to traverse, the creatures represent positive bonds, etc. There are dark moments sure, but they range from either not too cruel like a trainer being a jerk, or something cartoonishly wicked like pokemon mind control for world domination. It is a child's view of these magical creatures and the world they inhabit. And that is fine for what it is.
However in PalWorld (not saying it is 100% realistic either ) they take an approach that is part cynicism, part parody, and part realism. They present the logic that if these animals with superpowers existed in the real world, they would (not entirely or in totality) most definitely be used for labor, warfare, be pouched, etc. And this isnt to say that the pals arent sentient, because they are. Just like pokemon they can reject their owner and fight back if they do not like them (which is one of the drawbacks of enslaving them) and do have emotions, so much so even to the point of having sanity meters. This is why the devs give the choice to the player and not force them to be kid with rose colored glasses. I think you are hung up on it's "edge", when really it's presenting agency. Not just in how the player plays "pokemon", but in how they experience the world of "pokemon".
Boosting this as much as I can.
@@nullpoint3346I second that
Thank you for pointing this out. He prob won’t address this point though. Smh
Palworld is a honest Pokemon game and thats why Pokemon fans like Re:Direct hate it. The things is that most Palworld fans are either Pokemon fans themselves, and/or grew up with Pokemon. However, the difference is that they are able to look at Pokemon without the rose colored filtered.
One thing you will noticed that Pokemon fans like Re:Direct will always use the Pokemon anime to show how it's morally better, but will never use the Pokemon game. This is because everything they complain about in the Palworld game, is in the Pokemon game. They argue that it's not dog fighting, but I'm pretty sure my lv.5 Ratata doesn't want to the fight Arceus but I'm forcing him to. They say it's not slavery, but if it's that the case, why do I need to use multiple pokeballs or higher grade pokeballs in order to catch the pokemon. On top of this, if I want to increase my chances, I need to beat the shit out of it first. They clearly don't wan't to be captured. He says that pokemon can leave their trainers whenever they want. Every pokemon player has pokemons in their PC that will never see the light of day again. If they do, it's not because their trainer cares about them, it's because their trainer is releasing them to make more room for more pokemon. Ditto is literally used as a sex slave, a breeding machine. Pokemon players catch one Ditto, put it in the daycare, and use it for eggs.
The double standards and cognitive dissonance is crazy.
I am just curious why people forget that the game and the anime have shown pokemon getting eaten. They want to say how dark Palworld is but Pokemon if you really look at it, does the Wizard of Oz "dont look behind the curtain" bit and is just as dark.
Pokémon got and is still getting clowned by Palworld. Love it
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Well made video. Horribly biased. A lot of your takes are just yapping about how Palworld isn’t more like Pokémon which is ironic considering your belief that their designs being “straight rips” is a bad thing. Whether that is true will be resolved in the future should litigation be pursued and not something for you to unequivocally insist on.
The genres are completely different, which is why the emphasis on starting from nothing and climbing to the top (survival premise) is jarring for you. Consider it an opportunity to try different team configurations, base locations, stat builds, playstyle restricted challenges (hardcore/nuzlocke), etc. The game isn’t marketed for children like Pokémon is so expect it to be challenging.
Keep the PETA type outrage to real life - it’s like being mad that some games let you shoot people because “murder is bad”. Also, your copium about GameFreak’s future success doesn’t acknowledge that Palworld is still in early access and that Pokémon is at an all time low in the current zeitgeist precisely because of their complacency. Gamefreak has wasted their fanbase’s goodwill by stagnating for a decade+ while Pocket Pair has a comparatively blank slate. Check back in a few months to see if they’ve kept to their roadmap.
All in all, I think you’re entitled to your opinion but you should be made aware that you’re in the minority for good reason. The sales don’t lie and Palworld reached 19 million sold in 11 days (January 31st when that announcement was made). Comparatively, Pokémon S&V sold 23.23 million in a full year. What are the chances that Palworld won’t be able or haven’t already surpassed that? You can disagree with Pocket Pair’s design philosophy but you can’t deny their success in catering to players - something that Pokémon no longer does.
this comment off rip tells me you watched with the sound off lol
@@WatchReDirectthis response off rip tells me you read my comment with your eyes closed. lol
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“Something that Pokémon no longer does “ but you forget to ask is why ? I recommend shoogles BDSP retrospective in particular around the 5:40:00 ish mark I think I gives the nessasary insight :)
11:19 you're mad you have to restart... WHEN YOU RESTART
... no. i'm mad that if i want to play with different friends i don't keep my progress. i'm mad that my player isn't what retains my playthrough, whatever world they started in is. unlike pokemon where no matter whose world i'm in i can continue to progress from wherever i left off.
@@WatchReDirectthey stated that they will try add that later on
TLDR: palworld isnt just edgy for edge sake, it confronts the player with a lot of the aspects of monster taming that the genre takes for granted or hand wave away with cognagive dissonance.
I really think people see the "edge" of palworld and immediately cringe instead of actually engaging with the very valid points that the edgy aspect brings up. People see that your character fights pals themselves and think "how brutal" instead of giving it a second thought of how is making something else fight it different from fighting it yourself? People see pals with guns and scoff but these are sentient creatures, not just animals, so why wouldn't they want weapons to help them fight more effectively, especially when they're the ones on the front lines, and whats the difference between giving a pal a weapon and giving a pokemon a life orb or choice item? Why would a creature that was attacking you a minute ago suddenly be loyal to you just because you beat it into submission and threw a ball at it. For all the talk of pokemon not just being animals, they sure are treated like it. They get eaten, theyre farmed for milk, silk, oil, traded like toys or given away as prizes. If pokemon fighting is not only acceptable, but also ethical because pokemon like to fight, doesnt that mean that these cute creatures are just naturally blood lusted? People recoil at pals being used for labor yet nobody bats an eye at a machamp construction crew or Corviknight taxis, but are the pokemon, which again are sentient creatures, fairly compensated for their labor, or do they just get head pats and berries? Is that not just "nice" slavery? You mention pokemon being able to leave their balls whenever and thay they have all this agency. But thats because the anime has been running for like 20 years constantly sanitizing these aspects, you don't really get that in the games, especially after they removed the move frustration. Pokemon may not listen to you if you dont have enough badges, but are you really developing a relationship with them and earning their respect, or do they just fall in line once you've sufficently proved your capacity for violence by defeating a certain number of strong foes? Hell even Lovander brings up an uncomfortable yet valid point of if these creatures are as intelligent and sentient as humans, would they develop affection for humans? Like yeah its a gross thought, but what is actually the answer? According to palworld the answer is yes, and you better protect yourself. Also, according to pokemon, the answer is also yes, but people forget because it was a throwaway line in diamond and pearl. And to touch on the last part about the game rewarding animal abuse and slavery. Not necessarily? You're given the option of abusive working conditions, but that's not really optimal. You're disincentivised to use humans because they mostly suck as workers and fighters, but you can still catch them because through the logic of the world, the only thing stopping you is morality. Pals get stressed and hurt if you abuse them, cutting into your efficiency and making you feel bad if you empathize with them. In real life, doing the right thing is hardly ever the most effective at furthering your own goals, and things can't be a moral dilemma if you don't have choice. Saying palworld glorifies animal abuse and slavery just seems like pearl clutching because surprise surprise, being an evil bastard is "rewarded" in nearly all video games. Nearly all survival games reward factory farming in the form of mob farms. Nearly all RPGs with stealth and pickpocketing mechanics reward the player for being a Thief or killer, but where is the outrage there?
Y'know, I was pretty ambivalent to Palworld before. I'm satisfied enough with Pokémon and from what little I had seen and heard just didn't want to put on the tone. But wow, that is *definitely* not my jam. I still hope TPC feels a little shook up about it because they *need* to innovate (hopefully to bring the games more in line with other depictions if the world), but that's as much as I hope Palworld gets in my video games. I would love to hear more of your ideas on how Pokémon could innovate, BTW.
Also, I like the theory I heard that Pokémon are magical creatures that battle and find "worthy" trainers to become stronger. It feels most in line with how the world is depicted.
i desperately want to make a series of those ideas but i need to commission an editor & ideally some animation/concept art so it’ll take a bit but i will definitely make that series some day lol
I'm sure it'll be well with the wait.
I've long disowned Pokemon for their business practices alone. I love it as a franchise, but christ have mercy, the prices they have set for their stuff is outlandish. I knew Palworld would sell at a lower price and go for Early Access the day it was going to come out, and I was not disappointed despite the few bugs I've encountered on my decent PC. Thought I'm getting a new one soon, and then i can play the game the way it should be. Pokemon will have to really pull something off if they want to outsell Palworld at all, and I mean game changing stuff.
i think the business practices you’re speaking of is just a successful brand being priced like a successful brand. as of right now, pokémon doesn’t need to do anything to outsell palworld, palworld is the one in the losing position there. even if we took every steam sell & assume the xbox players included 0 game pass players palworld would still be more than 5 million units behind the latest release from pokemon. a game that has sold 24.36m units at 2x the price.
can’t say i blame you for being on the outs with pokémon but we gotta be realistic/honest here lol
@@WatchReDirectIs it weird to say I’ve never played a Pokémon game?
@@WatchReDirectBwahahaha
The video itself had some outlandish takes amíg some real good ones. But this takes the cake.
You are essentially applauding a company for becoming complacent and exploiting you with shit-tier slop.
And that after the early-access rant, which is essential in the right just needlessly condescending. Way to shatter the expectation of good faith arguments from your end.
@janosbrutyo2835 .... where did i applaud them? i am telling the reality of the situation, nowhere did i say that reality is worth celebration LMAO
@@WatchReDirect right... sorry for noticing the implicit BS in your undertone you are to weak to face yourself head on ^^'
Two questions,
1. Did you compare the anime and manga to Palworld? I am asking that because most of what you said for pokemon being sentient or having choice is non applicable to the mainline games. The best example is the PC box. How many pokemon are in your box and how often do you use them?
2. You have a problem with butchering Pals? We have been eating Pokemon since gen 1. Slowpoke tail, Klawf meat, ham and bacon from Lechonk, Farfetch'd and Basculine's dex entries, etc.
question 1 is directly answered in the video
re: question 2. i am referring to butchering humans, which is nowhere in pokémon lol
@@WatchReDirect ok so why did you compare Palworld to the Pokemon anime? Thats like saying Mario has more personality NiGHTS because of the Super Mario Super Show.
I am asking this question because, no offense, I don't want to watch/listen to the whole video again just for a quick answer.
@@HypercomboProduction i didn’t compare palworld to the anime specifically. i compared the brands as a whole
@@WatchReDirect and why did you do that? At the moment, Palworld doesn't have a tcg or TV series. If Pokemon did something that was better or worse through another medium, then logic would dictate that we have to give the same benefit of the doubt to Palworld. But since Palworld has no other means to express itself in, it is an unfair advantage to Pokemon.
Maybe my example was a poor choice earlier, so let's compare Bendy and Cuphead. Would you use the Cuphead Netflix series as a comparison to the Bendy Franchice?
Bro Pokémon ain’t taking down palworld they had 3 years bro it’s been like 2 week since someone said that plus why y’all praying on its downfall like Pokémon has a lot of money to make palworld and it would be 60 dollars and send 36m copies chill down Jamal
…. where did i pray on its downfall?
“jamal” lmao fitting this comment would come from a racist
@@WatchReDirect21:51 bro and am not racist I was making a joke /:
calling me "jamal" when my name is on the video several times and all over the page is a bad joke that reads as racist from this side of the screen. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though.
that said, no where in this video did i say i wanted palworld to fail. even despite my problems with it. i actually blatantly said the opposite. the plagiarism section saying it COULD fail as a result is not hoping it does lol.
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Where you lost me is when you began whining and standing on your soap box at the end of the video lol.
No one cares about that virtue signal crap when it comes to good video games
@@WatchReDirectJoke was racist but they have a point tho. Because pokemon could have made something similar, dosent need to have pokemom with lore like the one of lovander or slavery but dosent change the fact that its a fun game and that gamefreak should have done it, closest thing to it is legends arceus but even then i dunno.
Also i love how in palworld you can pet and ride your pals which, pokemon has that option in some games but its limited. Don't reduce the ppl that play the game to just "oh they want pokemon but edgy" because that kinda loses the argument.
(Oh forgot to mention but i did hear about the buggy online experiences, but i play single player, so i might have a different experience idk)
You aren't up to date in palworld. Its in early access, allot of the grips you have are being worked on look at their roadmap.
you didn’t watch the video if that’s your takeaway lol
pokemon took down a pokemon mod for palworld the day the mod came out, if pokemon could do anything to palworld we would already have seen the lawsuits back when palworld first started launching trailers
pokémon sent a c&d to an individual that blatantly uses their copyrighted assets. it takes a bit more to take legal action against a multi million dollar corporation that they suspect uses their assets under the hood in a more discreet manner.
Monster Taming and Pokemon are vastly different from another and i like hearing your perspective.
I am gonna bring up a point that nobody wants to acknowledge. Like it, hate it, agree with it, I do not care. But Palworld, for better or worse, I enjoy for the fact that it does let all your choices matter in their own way.
You're right. You can make sweat shops. You can be a horible monster that is causing untold horror as you ravage the locales for resources and gold, and mistreat your pals to maximize your gains. Thing is. That choice is the PLAYERS. Yeah, they've capitilized on giving the option to the players in what is basically a sandbox game. But you know something else? They don't DEPICT the actions as being particularly morale ones. Your pals VISIBLY suffer if you mistreat them.
If you are willing to do the same kind of things the Sydicate, Pal Alliance, or PIDF are doing. AKA the people that are treated as bandits, butchers, and basically monsters...That speaks more on you as a player. The game allows it much like in a sandbox or genuinely 'open world' type game you can do anything (D&D is a great example). The choices you amke will either weigh upon your soul, or not depending on who you are. Have somethnig more akin to the 'pokemon' relationship wher eyou are working with your pals, or make an unholy nightmare.
Pocket Pair have given you the tools to do either. And both do have their benefits.
is pokemon still 60 without dlc? prize is also a factor for people to try palworld out. I stopped playing palworld at 200 hours and for 20 dollars thats good value
yes. & agreed, that's mostly why i'm confused by the suggestions online that palworld's success means it supplanted in any real way. more people chose to spend more money on pokemon than are choosing to spend on palworld.
that's not to say what palworld has done isn't impressive, it's just to say what palworld has done is different from what the online narrative suggests.
Pokemon's sales are effectively doubled, or at least multiplied by 1.5, based on the expectation that many fans will buy both "versions" when a game comes out in multiple iterations with negligible differences. Any comparison of a Pokemon generation's main games output to the sales of any other videogame is skewed as such, and a couple other games have tried aping this scummy sales tactic but none have succeeded at it.
@@RoninCatholic this is an unsubstantiated straw man. no legitimate data i have ever seen has suggested that anywhere close to half of the sales of pokemon games comes from people double dipping.
have YOU ever double dipped? can you name even 5 people you know personally that do? because i can't and i have been talking about pokemon on the internet for a living for nearly 10 years now.
THAT SAID, even IF even HALF of the people that buy pokemon games actually do this, 12 million people spending $120 (or potentially more 'cause tax) on ONE video game for an entire generation is a way more positive sign than 12 million people spending $30 once.
so even if it's true, it just speaks to how successful pokemon truly is. but again, it's likely VERY inflated.
"What palworld does that pokemon could learn from".
If pokemon could learn from the rest of the industry we wouldn't be in this situation.
incorrect l & this is the problem with most people re: this issue. to say they aren’t influenced by the industry is willfully ignorance at best.
@@WatchReDirect right, S&V both looks awful and performs awful on hardware that has been out for years with better looking and better performing games, because GF and TPC were learning from their peers. They have the possibility of more resources than any other studio, and rather than making anything resembling a AAA product, they make games that don't even hold up well against the indie market. Because they learn from their peers. No. They have a formula that creates revenue and they have no intention of deviating from it so long as it's working.
The only thing I got from that entire vid was that you don't like Palworld not because it's a bad game or such, you don't like it because it's not Pokemon and you hate how well it does the genre of monster catching. Game Freak and Nintendo deserve this after a decade of declining game quality and complacency.
You are entitled to your opinions but don't pretend to be neutral in this.
so what you got from the video is what you wanted to get out of the video for confirmation bias sake.
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@@WatchReDirect he's right you shouldn't be bias you didn't mention about the price palworld cost 30$ while pokemon + dlc sits at 95$
@@WatchReDirectYou are forgetting the part that Pokémon hasn’t actually innovated and is playing like a ps2 game currently.
Palworld has a small team and literally looked better than pokemon in early access. A team like this with the skill they have doing this much makes the Pokémon franchise look horrible.
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People purposely planned to boycott this game which only made it stronger when people actually played it.
You should be a writer for IGN.
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PalWorld is taking a dump on Pokemon because its obvious that Palworld was created with love and fun in mind. Pokemon originally was the same but has became corporate that pumps out mediocre gameplay & power creep in order to keep their audience engaged.
Palworld was basically made out of someone's basement and its still in pre-release lol. With the recent profits they made with this surge of sales, I expect Palworld's gameplay and performance to improve dramatically over time.
And pokemon's lore and worldbuilding is actually pretty mid tier in comparison to other franchises that have been around just as long lol. Pokemon has survived off its gameplay, no one cares about its story
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Palworld: Literally Early Access. They even warn you about bugs.
Pokemon: There are more egregious bugs, and you know it. Supposed to be a "finished" game with a multimillion dollar budget.
it’s funny that this position as if i didn’t talk about all of the above.
name literally one “egregious” bug you have experienced during your time playing pokémon.
because in my ~30 hours of recorded palworld gameplay i have experienced significantly more & worse bugs than i have in 500 on pokémon. none of that is to say either is ok - but it sure does illustrate people pick & choose when a game’s performance matters to them lol. if you’re such performance snobs, EaRlY aCceSs should be unplayable garbage to you as well 🫡
@WatchReDirect no one is saying either is acceptable. The big difference is that part of the point of Palworld's early access is so the devs can fix any reported problems. Because they actually care about the game and their audience. EaRlY AccEsS... currently has 19 million people backing game it up so the final product will be better.
And just because you had a miracle happen to you where you supposedly had a clean playthough of scarlet and violet doesn't mean those egregious problems don't exist. Even beyond bugs and glitches, which is not the only problem. There's plenty of videos of people having game-breaking mishaps. And that's a 70$ game
@@Anonymous_Hayabusa it’s not a $70 game first of all lol. 2nd of all early access is not a necessity in any situation, it was a choice they made to be able to monetize their game’s development.
& it’s not a “miracle run” a video showcasing “plenty if game breaking bugs” is only notable because the bugs they showcase ISN’T the norm for the 24 million people playing the video game. i have listed in detail just some of the actual game breaking bugs i experienced in palworld but for some reason you haven’t named one you experienced in pokémon?
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Regardless of how much it is, it's more than Palworld, and it's not worth it.
And I never said early access was a necessity in ANY situation. I said it was part of helping this game get better. The norm for Pokémon Scarlet and Violet is that it's a bad game. At this point, Palworld is just better Pokémon, and Nintendo stans are salty to the point of defending their multimillion dollar slop. Palworld has real potential. It's the "Pokémon game" we've been waiting for. A breath of fresh air in an oversanitized genre. And you know what? Even the problems you had in Palworld aren't the norm, cause my experience with the game as been pretty much smooth the past week of over 60 hours. And I play on gamepass. Yet, I still recognize the problems that exist. Funny how you don't with Pokémon
i think it’s hilarious that you think me pointing out how much more successful pokemon objectively is constitutes as me defending it when i spent a sizable portion of this video criticizing pokemon & praising palword despite ultimately disliking it. but yeah *i’m* the stan here lmao
The fact that you are comparing a big name big budget phenomenon like pokemon to an indie game that hasnt even released properly from no name devs and the stupidest backstory is where the criticism lies. Palworld is by no means perfect. It has bugs and issues that need to be ironed out. I agree with you there. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. The sentiment from I have seen is that how come an indie self early access game feels so much more complete and (subjectively) more fun than anything the AAA industry has given us in years. Even if the state palworld is currently in was a full release it would still be miles more polished than the likes of battlefield 42 or cyberpunk (which i love) were at launch.
The triumph of palworld doesnt come from it providing the best game to ever exist, its flawed as hell. Rather how the devs gave a better experience than companies 10 times their size and budgets do. I have never played pokemon. I loved the anime when i was a child and the games wouldve been childhood gems but i am now a 20 something year old spoiled by the best of the best games out there. Seeing the modern pokemon games just isnt appealing to me. I know switch is capable of better because i have played zeldas on it. Seeing the new pokemon reminds me os my ps2 games, i think it is safe to say they stopped pushing the envelope and rested on their rested on their laurels too long. Palworld isnt free from any valid criticisms it gets obv. I want this game to be better because it is already leagues above its peers and with pokemon being the monopoly in the creature catching genre, I am happy to see a fun new take. Pokemon isnt going anywhere. And that simple fact is the very reason those games have become so stale. I can only tell you those games look like shit because they really aren't my cup of tea but I have been reading and hearing a lot of outcry from the core pokemon community that the games are just mid. That is what monopoly does lol.
palworld isnt pokemon wit guns. Pokemon is palworld without the guns, base building, survivial mechanics, good traversal or really anything. It's like saying "The witcher is gwent with swords"
the fact that you opened this by saying comparing the 2 is the “stupidest” thing to do & then proceeded to do the same thing is hilarious.
just keep it real, you’re not mad at the comparison, you’re mad it’s not favorable for palworld. if you just want confirmation bias, i’m positive you can find it elsewhere lol
@@WatchReDirect I'm not saying comparing the two is stupid. I'm saying the fact that those two are even comparable is exactly the problem with the modern AAA space. I'm sorry if I was confusing 😅
I think people should be trying better alternatives to Pokemon if they’re dissatisfied. Monster Sanctuary is definitely one I’d recommend
33:12 Wrong.
Lovander is a blatant obvious rip from the Pokemon name Salazzle. Salazzle is a unapologetic horny Pokemon design and to the extent that Nintendo will allow, is also canonically a horny Pokemon. Multiple of it Poke entires will referring a single female Salazzle will have a harem of male Salazzles that server it every need. Then you have Lovander which take Salazzle hilarious idea of being an excessively horny lizard in a children game and turn it up to 11 because Palworld isn't made for kids. It Paldeck entire while not stating it obviously, HEAVILY Imply that Lovander will chase down literally anything with a pulse for the express purpose of "Night of Love".
It pretty obvious that Palworld is a game that parodying Pokemon by using their prominent controversy from the last 20+ years by out of touch Boomers and it peculiar Ideas from it. Like catching human in the Pal Sphere. It a parody how in Pokemon were you throw a Pokeball at a trainer it will tell you "you can't catch a trainer." I'm surprise you didn't realize that and you shouldn't be shock about it either since they didn't hide it.
a pokemon desiring other pokemon is not the same as a pokemon lusting after humans. the comparison in the video was intentionally chosen to showcase a pokémon example that is similarly as bad & to illustrate the only reason it GETS that bad is the fanbase. lovander is yet another example of others making their cursed insinuation into reality which is the problem. the “parody” excuse is moot when it is presented in context in the way that it is. there’s always a point in attempting to do something “ironically” that results in just blatantly doing the thing.
tl;dr designing beastiality into your game is a bad “joke” that was executed poorly.
@@WatchReDirect One is design as a horny lizard, the other is design as a horny lizard. The two examples you use is basic on fan head cannon that you have an issue with. That is unrelated to the intent from both studios for how they went into designing those lizards. Just because you find one of them tasteful doesn't excuse what there were going for.
You may find it poorly executed but other may not. Pals are the polar opposite or some may argue parody from what you expect Pokemon to be from just reading there Paldeck and how they interact in the wild.
I'm interested in Palworld but haven't really had the time or money to play it. I don't have an Xbox anymore and if I do decide to play it on PC, I might as well get it on Steam. From what I've seen of it, it looks like some people's kind of fun but maybe not specifically mine since I'm not really into the base-building survival type stuff.
Probably you will end up with the best deal!
It's really early-acces and rough around the edges. The hype and controversy is stupid and overblown around it... you will have time to see if Pocket Pair really follows through with the development now that they have tons of money.
As far as the survival game aspect goes... I really love Valheim and found Palworld underwhelming initially.
However while definitely using the skeleton of ARK Survival Evolved with Pokémon as the muscles and hook, it doesn't really play like a survival game and gets all the better for it.
The automation is where it gets really good. With the Pals helping around the base, the detail in their animations... the smile after a job well done, Depresso's messed up sleep schedule.
You can really forge a bond with them. And while the annoying crowd really goes in for the shock-humor exploitative methods, your home can be a wholesome community as well and has its own benefits.
However if you are not in a rush do to friends to play together, I'd recommend to wait. The pathfinding AI needs improvements... and while it's funny in it's own way to watch them get stuck, babysitting jank gets tedious quickly.
Great concept, and mechanically meshes it's several inspirations well, while adorably obvious in presentation. But really would benefit from a ton of polish.
So far I'm happy with my purchase, but definitely not main game yet and will wait a bit until investing significant time.
@@janosd4nukeThanks for the heads-up! I do want to try it eventually and I'd feel a lot better knowing there are ways you can automate things. I'll definitely wait for a more stable version or even the final release so I can get the best experience.
Well I now hate Pokemon, it the same bs over and over again since the 90's.
Deadpool and Deathstroke got the same issue bro. That is why Marvel and DC ain't suing each other.
someone doesnt know what salazzle is.... or what early access means. ANyone has a right to judge the product they paid for but the point of early access is to play test for people to experience a game early while giving feedback so it gets fixed. Its not blind faith that players expect palworld to get better, its called an unfinished game being developed and improving because thats how it works. Its expected for unfinished games to have issues, no duh, you arent making a point other than stating another fix on the to-do list.
You cant compare the sentience of pokemon in the anime when the games dont actually represent that level of detail. EVen then pals are more expressive than pokemon since they too can decide not to work, get sad when mistreated and several other little interactions that show they are intelligent and free thinking. Its rather dumb to make such a comparison when palworld doesnt have an animated series to depict their personalities (though we already have a good enough idea from the games expressive interactions) BTW you arent encouraged to be cruel to your pals. SIck and depressed pals work less so keeping them happy and healthy is the most mutually beneficial thing you can do. The psychopaths enjoy it but the options exist mostly for the sake of realism and adding consequences to poor management skills. Nature is cruel and unforgiving, palworld doesnt hide it unlike pokemon that pretends the world is perfect and that all its creatures enjoy stockholm syndrome.
(human pals are also worthless so you wouldn't want to capture them outside of merchants for utility.
Someone doesn't know that it is canon some people who marry/"do" their pokemon in the pokemon universe. Oops.
Also, complaining about "slavery" where it is very much optional is hilarious since slavery also exists, canonically, in pokemon as well...you are cherry picking, and at worse, are one of those who you claim are on "one side".
show me where it is said that either of these things is true. not vaguely implied. plainly stated.
also, when do you enslave humans in pokemon games? i’ll wait :)
@@WatchReDirect You're not going to get sex plainly stated in a kid's franchise, it has to be implied...how stupid are you, exactly?
Apparently, very, since you want an example specific from the games when I said the "pokemon UNIVERSE"...nor did I specifically mention HUMAN slavery.
@@WatchReDirect Pokemon Diamond/Pearl and Platinum Sinnoh Folk Story 3 outright states in the original japanese that people married their pokemon.
If they got married, they obviously did the deed.
Pokemon Gold doesn't have HUMAN slavery, no one mentioned specifically human slavery, but it sure has pokemon in it. Team Rocket's base at Lake Rage has electrodes powering a power plant...and if we know anything about team rocket, they aren't exactly doing it voluntarily.
Palworld is better than any Pokémon switch game. Nintendo switch fanboys should get the ps portal as it sold well in the US hahaha
@@WatchReDirectEdgy low tier youtuber who isn't that popular 😂😂😂😂
About the whole bug thing you have to understand that first
It's Xbox problem my mid PC never have a crash with 20 mod on
And there been 4 patch in a span of 2 week when they said they're working on it they actually did this is no man's sky story but without severely broken part and 60$ price tag
i think it being an “xbox thing” is a bad excuse because series x is significantly more powerful than most people’s pc’s, let alone the nintendo switch system so this video game crashing series x more than pokemon crashes on my switch is the crazy part & 0% grace is afforded to the former when neither in my opinion should be excused if both aren’t.
@@WatchReDirectnot more powerful than my mid PC it seem console will still be console affordable is it's main selling point
Nintendo switch is obsolete in 2024. Playstation portal owns 2024. Cry harder AJ 😂😂😂😂
Switch 2 will be underpowered, mark my words! 😂
It's time bois
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One of your points i would like to respond to is is your protests aginst the evil a player can take part in
I feel its important for that choice to be available because it makes it an actual choice i chose to be good to my magic animals if im forced to be the good guy it dosnt have the same impact
Frustration is a confusing move because of how unviable it is in general due to how friendship works while Return is viable on any pokemon you spend significant time training
Will edgelords be edgelords? Yes they are choosing to live out a fantasy that would be inappropriate in real life dose that make them bad people? I donno maybe but maybe they just need a space to get itt out of thier system
I just find the "you can do evil things" arguments agist any video game ridiculous because in most cases it improves how not being evil feels
Im not responding to the creature design controversies because im tired of this talking point
Everything else ok fair come back next year see if you still hate the game for the reasons derived from its almost complete state
i don’t agree but i do appreciate the thoughtful comment! thanks for that :)
@WatchReDirect i appreciate your reply. I am at an age where choice in games matters to me, and while I love Pokemon, Palworld actually lets me feel like a good guy by the choices I made.
I'm glad Palworld came out in 2024 and not 2025
100% agree evil/bad stuff is real and having them in the game I think enhances gameplay. Why would they put meds in the game if they didn't want to give you the option to care for your pals. I hope they put both more good and bad into the game like this, seeing what people do is interesting
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There isn't a problem. Pokemon took itself out. Palworld is just doing what the fans yearned for all these years. I don't agree with the bug/performance part. It is early access, bugs are expected. You did not bring up the fact that both games are made different. Pokemon is meant to sustain itself in a mini card to be made on the go. Palworld (steam) isn't meant to go anywhere (aside from steam deck) so bugs are expected. Also, they are working on it consistently and a lt a cycling rate. Take a look at fortnire early access and how successful it is now.
Lost massive amount of interest when you brought up the copy right/stealing parts. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ let the lawyers handle that and being that the game has been making moves for 3-4 years there is a clear line that they are here to stay.
…. how did pokemon take itself out? lol
palworld still hasn’t matched pokemon’s success let alone “taken it out”
@@WatchReDirect Dont get me wrong I am a fan just like the next guy and you seem to have a bias leaning towards pokemon which is okay. Looking at this objectively, Pokemon hasn't produced anything good in 10years. They have the capability and choose not to. Palworld, pocketpair, with their small budget had a stellar opening. Your comparisons of the games opening days were by far incomparable. Today's gaming market and last millennium market were by far different.
Palworld has opened pandoras box. Pokemon kept tethering around it for $$$$$$.
Pokemon sells merchandise, movies, nostalgia, target audience kids.
Palsworld just started let them build up.
Again, I hope pokemon takes a huge hit on their gaming platform and gaming mechanics since it has been trash all of these years. They need to evolve if they want to be relevant. Just my take.
I bought violet with none of the expansions and I was disappointed.
@@WatchReDirect They made a Pokemon out of Garbage that how.
@Legend7 i want nothing more than for pokemon to be motivated to invest more in their games and have been yelling about it since people on here were scoffing and saying all they want is the 3ds games in hd on switch. nobody wants them to innovate more than me.
that said, gotta call a spade a spade. palworld as it stands is a dime a dozen situation. there are SO many ripoff franchises that start hot off the backs of scorned fans wanting better (yokai watch, temtem, multiversus, etc, etc) that all eventually sizzle out. people claiming any sort of victory here are ignoring that history.
the irony here is this video is filled with criticism of both games but the palworld fans seem to think palworld can do no wrong - just in the way you are insinuated every pokemon fan is.
@@WatchReDirect If PW had been out for 5yrs with no real direction then yes I would beat it up for answers. But it's been barely a month and they have shown promise. Pokemon doesn't get the same treatment. I dare say they are obligated at this point to give us what we deserve since we expect a lot more for their 92 BILLION Networth. You would think they would push for next Gen gaming console to sustain such a transformation. This is what I truly think.
Pleaase get a pop-filter for your mic.
it’s not plosives it’s obs’s limiter clipping. i have a shure smb7 & it has an internal filter
Bro, Pocket Pair was about to go bankrupt. They had to relase early access to eat. If you think you're being exploited for playing an unfinished game, nobody made you do it.
Also, its sad to see people spreading actual misinformation. The guy who did the model comparison literally admitted to resizing the models to make them line up better. Heck, sonic and mario line up just as well as the pokemon palworld model comparison.
As for the slavery thing, I always find it odd when people get upset when they have the option to do terrible things in games. Nobody's making you work your pokemon under harsh conditions and nobody's making you butcher them. They work better if they're happy, and it's your choice whether to do that or not.
Isn't having a strong bond with your pet more meaningful when its because of choices tou made instead of pressing menu buttons for a dozen hours and being told you won because of a bond you never see? If you blame the game for the way pals are treated by players, do you blame Tears of thr Kingdom for the way players treat Koroks?
And you even admit that you don't like Pal world simply for not being Pokemon. There's nothing wrong with that, but when that's the emotional core for your argument, I'm not sure why you expect people to agree with you.
there are several points in this comment where you blatantly misrepresent what i say in the video so i’m gonna choose not to respond to any of those “points” all i’ll say is they didn’t almost go bankrupt lmao. & even if they did it would be for the fact that they themselves decided they weren’t going to budget their game.
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That's the first comment of mine to get through youtube's shadow filter. I'll try to break up the rest of my reply to figure out what's getting it flagged.
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If this comment goes through, it was the link that flagged it. The first result for 'pocket pair bankruptcy' goes to a GamesHorizon article that goes over Pocket Pair's statements about how they didn't know if they'd be forced to go bankrupt even after releasing the alpha.
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It was the link that did it. The rest of my reply is here.
With this in mind, what do you mean 'didn't budget'? They're a company that spends money on salaries almost exclusively. Did you expect them to cut the salaries of their employees in half at the start of development as their budgeting? They aren't a AAA studio that has the benefit of being able to hire as many people as needed to finish a game within a development cycle.
Pocket pair had to make a decision: either borrow money and go into the red for a game they didn't even know would be successful or release an alpha so they could make money immediately and continue development only if the early access made enough for them to avoid immediate bankruptcy.
Pokemon doesn't have that excuse for a poor product. They have billions of dollars and there are thousands of devs that would drop everything to work on a pokemon game. They could easily quintuple the size of their development team and make all that money back and then some.
And yes, I did say excuse. Palworld still deserves criticism for the buggy state it was released in, just as any show that was cancelled deserves criticism for an unfinished story. But you specifically said you feel exploited for debugging their game, which is an insane misrepresentation behind why the game was actually released in an alpha state.
And what am I blatantly misrepresenting? Because I can assure you that it was not intentional. I responded to the points of your video as I perceived them.
Do you feel that you were not spreading misinformation with the comments about model ripping and AI? Because unless you've found new evidence, all of these allegations are either falsified or baseless.
Do you feel I misrepresented your argument about exploitation? Did you feel my comparison with TotK was innacurate? If so, Skyrim is probably a better example, as a game that allows you to rob and kill people with impunity. but the community doesn't blame the game for players who choose to kill every named NPC in the world.
Do you feel that calling your bias for Pokemon the 'emotional core of your argument' was misrepresentative? Your entire video is filled with bias for Pokemon, from early on where you admit that flying around on a pal isn't satisfying because it isn't Charizard, to when you make double standard arguments like saying Pokemon does nothing wrong because Pokemon enjoy fighting, while pals who enjoy both fighting and helping are completely different.
Me saying that your bias is the core of your argument is me calling you out. If the next Pokemon game included showing your Pokemon help you cook and set up camp at night, you wouldn't bat an eye because it's clear that they're doing it because they want to. A palworld player has the option to mistreat their pals, but can also keep them happy, and isn't making the active choice to keep you companions happy better than having it taken out of your hands?
One facet of your issue seems to be a lack of condemnation, since you gave it some credit for pointing out that capturing humans is considered immoral in-game. I disagree with this idea.
Let's take Undertale. I think it was a good game, and I like a lot of what it did, but the messaging was ham-fisted. In the genocide route, you're criticized for killing and made out to be an omnicidal monster, but the only two people you kill who aren't actively trying to attack you back are Papyrus and Monster kid, both of whom are still trying to stop you. The only NPCs you encounter that don't try to fight you, the game doesn't even allow you to try to attack them. Yet it still gives a long-winded speech about the obsession with making numbers go up at any cost, which is especially off color since most people only do the genocide route to fight Sans.
In my opinion, adding this kind of blunt-force feel-bad messaging to Palworld would ruin it. A core part of the game's concept is that it allows you to approach these things however you want, and guilt tripping you for those decisions would undermine that.
PalWorld is taking a dump on Pokemon because its obvious that Palworld was created with love and fun in mind. Pokemon originally was the same but has became corporate that pumps out mediocre gameplay & power creep in order to keep their audience engaged.
Palworld was basically made out of someone's basement and its still in pre-release lol. With the recent profits they made with this surge of sales, I expect Palworld's gameplay and performance to improve dramatically over time.
And pokemon's lore and worldbuilding is actually pretty mid tier in comparison to other franchises that have been around just as long lol. Pokemon has survived off its gameplay, no one cares about its story
lol
I like the approach your video took regarding this whole ordeal. It's unlike most Pokemon VS Palworld comments/videos where most of the arguments are relatively black and white mostly devolving into debates that mostly go like this: Modern Pokémon good cause blind love for the franchise, Palworld bad cause it steals designs/being unoriginal or Modern Pokemon bad cause the graphics/techincal/gameplay aspects are crap/outdated, Palworld good cause it 'innovates' the monster taming genre/'competiting' with Pokémon.
You actively criticise and praise both games when necessary in a good amount of detail. It makes the video less of a hit piece on Palworld and more of an opinionated, overall evaluation of the game and the 'controversy' surrounding it.
thank you! that was my exactly what i wanted to get across with this so i’m glad it translated.
I think Lovander is really gross and I hate it, easily my least favorite Pal _but_ I think within the context of an edgy game made for older teens and adults it's less inappropriate than the objectively "more tasteful" but behaviorally identical Salazzle from Pokemon. I'll also defend to some extend the design decision to leave certain options open (like mistreating your Pals, running actual harsh slave camps, butchering humans) in part because these can be funny and in part because they tend to either give no benefits or act as an actual detriment to the gameplay loop of actually accomplishing your goals.
As someone who has played and is enjoying Palworld, it is sad your experience has muddled your view but that's how it be. But that's ok.
As for the Xbox/Gamepass experience I can't be completely empathetic because I got it on Steam but I've heard Microsoft is trying to assist Pocket Pair in getting patches and updates out, so I do hope the experience improves as the game's lifespan goes on.
As for the suing/takedown of Palworld, if that does happen it's fine. I think most can agree this game has definitely flown too close to the sun. But until that does/doesn't occur I'll just keep enjoying the fun and the gameplay loop.
Pretty good video as always man. I have been playing it on my Xbox one X and its been pretty fun. The survival aspect of the game is really cools, only really played one other game like Palworld and that would be State of Decay 2. Having to manage so many things was a bit overwhelming in the beginning. But I got used to it after long. Ive only been playing the game for about 3 days now. As for the whole Pokemon vs Palworld thing. I still like both I guess. Lol i just get lost in both games anyway. But yeah, I agree with the points made and get where you are coming from especially the quality of Palworld. I haven't had any crashes yet but Im still enjoying the game. Lol
Bro is trash talking a 30$ indie game for bugs (that they fix and update for free) and defending a 60$ + 30$DLC AAA game for the same bugs (that nintendo will never fix and charge another 60 for next years broken mess)
Palworld is my 1st monster catcher and its awesome
They got them! Lets go!
Palworld isnt bad for a 60% finished game either.
Completely off-topic. But what does lived experience mean? Can you have not lived experiences? Experience is something you have to have experienced. It can only be lived otherwise it wouldn't be an experience, but something you learned.
Also another point. I do not care about your criticism - but, when you said early access isn't an excuse because you paid money for it, only to later say you are glad you didn't pay money for it because it was on gamepass, you are being a hypocrite. Either it's one or the other, you can't have both. And no, saying you paid for gamepass is not an out, because than you should still have said that you exclusively got gamepass for this game and not that you are happy that you didn't give them any money because of gamepass.
no, because it costs money to access the product they made money for the product i paid microsoft to access the product who paid them. less of MY money goes to them, which i am happy about but my money still was required to play. that’s not me being a hypocrite that’s you being a bit slow which is ok :)
@@WatchReDirect Then you shouldn't be glad that you paid no money because you paid money, it doesn't matter if it's through Microsoft or not. You can't have your cake and eat it.
Honestly just take the L and don't try to do this intellectual dishonest tirade nobody is buying. Also my accusation was based on something I noticed and thoroughly explained. The last bit of your comment is a pure ad hominem attack on me. I get that being called out doesn't feel good, but there is winning in taking L's gracefully and just flinging shit onto the messenger. That's just childish.
the last part was maximum copium but good video 👍
whatever you say lmao
Performance issues is a big problem for me, im spoiled asf, if im using mouse and keyboard to control any type of fpp or tpp control type i have to be running 120fps or more. It's just something that I've grown used to in 60 doesn't feel right anymore. On a controller and smaller screen like a handheld i can tolerate 45 and lower but avoid combat situations or Anything fast paced if possible.
Im fortunate enough to have a powerful machine to be able to run this at 144 FPS locked, there are some rare instances where it will lock up and chug at 2fps. I have a feeling that has to do with memory leaks, since this seems to happen after an extended period of time. This happens faster on my steam deck. This could also be the reason why Xbox crashes so often since it has a lower amount of memory to work with
that may all be true but there’s no world my series x should be crashing more than my switch
@@WatchReDirect that's a fair point since switch hardware is still in the Wii U, xbox 360, ps3 gen. But if it crashes and chugs on my $1800 pc build (though rarely) and after a few minutes of gameplay sometimes on a steam deck, xbox being behind on updates, it makes sense it will run in a worse state.
Im running 16gb of DDR4 memory.
An RX7900XT
And an RX5800X3D
So ive got decent enough hardware to brute force through performance issues. But even with all that i still run into frame drops and even the game locking up my session altogether forcing a reboot.
Given some time to fix these issues. Palworld may just run better than any AAA title released recently.
There’s been more than enough time for pokemon to take palworld down. They would’ve done it before they made any money, because they already knew of the game and would have investigated if they thought they had a case.
Great video! I can tell
You out alot of work into it. With that said, some of your arguments are realllllly a stretch and show your bias for pokemon (which is totally okay, it’s your video) but yeah, I didn’t agree with a lot of the arguments.
Very very well put together video regardless! Thanks for the entertainment 😊
thanks! i think bias is natural & is inescapable on both sides (clearly, your comment is pretty palword-coded lol) but i appreciate the (what reads like) backhanded compliment!
@@WatchReDirect Actually I’m a huge pokemon fan. I don’t think I’ll even play Palword, ha . I think you had some excellent points to make pokemon better with what Pal did. It wasn’t meant to be a backhanded compliment. It’s a compliment on your effort and skill to make this video, as well as some great points you brought up , while just pointing out that I felt you stretched on some things and simply disagreed. Keep up the good work!
@@LifeWithStefan gotcha sorry for the misunderstanding 🫡
@@WatchReDirect You don't take constructive criticism very well eh?
PalWorld is taking a dump on Pokemon because its obvious that Palworld was created with love and fun in mind. Pokemon originally was the same but has became corporate that pumps out mediocre gameplay & power creep in order to keep their audience engaged.
Palworld was basically made out of someone's basement and its still in pre-release lol. With the recent profits they made with this surge of sales, I expect Palworld's gameplay and performance to improve dramatically over time.
And pokemon's lore and worldbuilding is actually pretty mid tier in comparison to other franchises that have been around just as long lol. Pokemon has survived off its gameplay, no one cares about its story
lol
Quit tryna make Scarlet and Violet look good. We know it's a broken trash
lmao
Watching right now but gotta say, in the intro so far theres a weird crinkle on the mic !
yeah i noticed in the edit. it’s sporadic & not sure what caused it (probably obs related) but it’s not too crazy.
I’m happy to of found a vid like this all my feed just seems like palworld good Pokemon trash or GF freak is lazy even though palworlds success could very well be derived from what it based its self on off topic but someone dead ass called me poor cause I didn’t want to play palworld , Pokemon fans can be toxic but some palworld ones are fighting for first 😭
yeah it’s sad, from what i’ve seen palworld fans that AREN’T toxic are the exception lol
It's time for Pokemon to die. I can't wait for the anime.
lmaooo
One bug. That claim is active cope dude.
1. i said one bug that impacted my experience 2. i have streamed &/or recorded my gameplay for 100s of hours. i have several witnesses. but sure, i’m the one “coping”
Great video! Love the perspective you offered as a Pokémon fan who isn’t just angry online, lot of very well thought out points here. It’s a shame that palworld isnt better, would be great for Pokémon to have a real competitor that drives them forward
thanks, trev! agreed!
if palworld was good & lacked the baggage it’d be so much easier to believe it could be what scorned pokemon fans rallying behind palworld claim it is or will be. unfortunately they tried to just use their “parody” trojan horse as the bulk of their offering & that just resulted in a half assed product that lacks any sort of identity of its own