4:05 I get your point Gabe,but if he can be that good and dominant in the paint and driving to the paint,I think he’ll be fine. I’d be super pumped if we got this trade done,I feel like after these new bench rotations with nurk benched,and we are winning,nurk is clearly *a* problem
Been saying this the biggest flaw with this team is the center rotation. Nurk is too slow and a horrible pick and roll defender with zero shot blocking defense. Nick fits the roster perfectly can run the floor incredible athleticism and a good shot blocker/rim protector. On offense he can be a lob threat and get us offensive rebounds and be more effective at setting screens
Ayton played good defense and was a reliable scorer in the paint. Good rebounder as well. The only thing Nurk did well was rebound. He was a blackhole on defense and his scoring was very inconsistent. Ayton is hands down the better player… I’d rather have Ayton over Nurk.
Nobody is coming into this team and saving us. A hard rebuild is the only thing that is inevitable, with or without assets that is the only question. #tradethebigthree
we dont need a big that can shoot we need defense and rim protection..he just needs to be able to dive to the basket and finish when he gets the ball something Nurk cant do
Nick Richards is a very underrated and underappreciated player. Josh Green when used right and allowed to play in his role into his skills, he's a fantastic 3&D guy, which the Suns really need more defensive players. Nick is a quality post defender, has good athleticism, and solid rebounder. You guys already have solid offensive players and shooters both starting and off the bench, so you do NOT need another shooter/scorer on the team, especially at the Center spot. If you get both of those guys, you're going to be notably improved overall. Nurk could have been one of the best Centers in the league, but absolutely lost his confidence and passion when he snapped his leg in half for us in Portland. All in all, this would be good long term for both Charlotte and Phoenix.
Been saying this for a hot minute. Move Nurk, and have Beal give you that offensive jolt off the bench. Love the hell outta Nurk, but he’s just simply not compatible with this type of roster.
Mavs fan here Let’s talk about Green Strengths include very good athleticism, being Australian, surprisingly decent passing, always gives 110% effort and hustle no matter what, knack for getting 1-2 impressive offensive rebounds a game. Weaknesses however, struggles a lot to get over screens leading to poor perimeter defense at times, poor confidence on offense to shoot even when left wide open occasionally, avg or streaky shooter on low volume which can be frustrating. Height is 6’3-4 at best and is undersized for a wing player. Struggles to create own shot. Overall he is an avg role player. Though he is still young and has potential. If Green is your 7th or 8th man in the rotation then he is good in that role. The main reason Dallas replaced green with QGrimes is because grimes is a much more consistent and willing shooter.
I don’t think Hornets will give Josh Green and Nick Richard’s for Nurkic. It might be Nick Richards and injured Grant Williams. They may want to move off his contract
When I watch the Hornets, Richards always jumps off the screen. And look what Washington did after leaving Charlotte. Don't know why they'd just give him away, Williams is always hurt
It’s funny how everyone couldn’t wait to get rid of DA! He’s the problem and ANY player would be better! So we hyped up Nurk and here we are doing the same! Cheaper, just rebound etc. How long till we do the same thing again?? Biggest problem is the firing of coaches and significant roster changes.
If the hornets trade a 27 year old for a 30 year old they are crazy, it’s like the hornets pick up all the reject players grant, josh, Seth, micic, taj, isaiah… This shit is getting out of hand, we don’t have to pick up every unwanted player
The only reason would be to get 2 second round picks since they aren't planning on re signing Richards since they have a better center on the squad. Nurk only has 2 yrs left on his contact.
@ if they were smart they would go get the players like bol bol or emoni bates who have potential but don’t get PT.. It’s even a few in the g that’s playing good, I just wanna know the reasoning behind picking up isaiah Wong
If the hornets trade Nick richards right after he’s finally healthy when the one thing we’ve needed more than anything this season is a big man to stay healthy, for Jusif Nurkic, whoever else the suns would even give up, that’d be ridiculous. For you suns fans that read this, Nick Richards is good. He’s not some absolutely insane player, but god he’s everything nurkic isn’t so if you get him be glad. If I were the hornets I’d genuinely just wait a year to trade Nick, hope he gets even a little better, and trade him elsewhere. He’s not a shooter but he’s a reliable big man in regards to rebounding and scoring, and not the greatest defender but definitely better than what you’ve got. I think I’m the only hornets fan who genuinely cares about what we do with Nick Richards, but he’s the real deal. Not another superstar, but a guy who can actually positively contribute to the game. Yes he’s a random second rounder who panned out and yes they’ll likely get more picks to do something with, but this is highway robbery if the suns pull this off. Peace suns fans
i dont think this is a win win nurk has been the worst starting center in the leauge the hornets are not gonna take his contract kinda over optimist also there is no reason there adding josh green
Well if this happens it will move our needle exactly zero. Let's bring in a smaller guy to help our interior because we are to small. An idiotic move that will do nothing to help our team.
@Sunsfever83 what do you want them to do? It is not like they have several options in the trade market. It is good that they are actually trying to bring in younger guys.
They started off 8-1 and beat some good teams in the beginning. Team did fall apart, but they have a lot of potential to make some noise in the playoffs, if they get a good center, and maybe butler. I do think that Beal coming off the bench is great for this team, so maybe they don’t need butler
Nick Richards does not need to shoot 3s he just needs short roll passes and lob threats.
@capcomfan303 man imagine Shaq playing in today's game & talking heads saying "only if he could shoot 3's..." 🤦🏿🤣
Hopefully they can pull this trade off in time so that Nurkic fly back to Charlotte with the hornets tonight after they play the suns
Can’t wait to see how Tyus’ game evolves with signing a lob threat. It’s going to unlock an entirely new aspect of this suns offense.
4:05 I get your point Gabe,but if he can be that good and dominant in the paint and driving to the paint,I think he’ll be fine.
I’d be super pumped if we got this trade done,I feel like after these new bench rotations with nurk benched,and we are winning,nurk is clearly *a* problem
Been saying this the biggest flaw with this team is the center rotation. Nurk is too slow and a horrible pick and roll defender with zero shot blocking defense. Nick fits the roster perfectly can run the floor incredible athleticism and a good shot blocker/rim protector. On offense he can be a lob threat and get us offensive rebounds and be more effective at setting screens
Nick Richards and Josh Green for Nurf imo.
The Suns have no other option than go all in and if everything fails, blow it up this summer.
I thought Ayton was too lazy that’s why he was traded. Nurk is even worse
No way, Ayton was way worse....costs more too
They are both awful. The only difference is that one makes double the money.
Ayton played good defense and was a reliable scorer in the paint. Good rebounder as well. The only thing Nurk did well was rebound. He was a blackhole on defense and his scoring was very inconsistent. Ayton is hands down the better player… I’d rather have Ayton over Nurk.
Atleast 4 other teams also want Nick Richards. It’s gonna be hard to get him because why would the hornets take nurkic’s horrible contract.
he's expiring next year at 19 mil, hornets could use him outright or aggregate him to trade for more help
expiring contract...........................................
Nobody is coming into this team and saving us. A hard rebuild is the only thing that is inevitable, with or without assets that is the only question. #tradethebigthree
we dont need a big that can shoot we need defense and rim protection..he just needs to be able to dive to the basket and finish when he gets the ball something Nurk cant do
Nick Richards is a very underrated and underappreciated player. Josh Green when used right and allowed to play in his role into his skills, he's a fantastic 3&D guy, which the Suns really need more defensive players. Nick is a quality post defender, has good athleticism, and solid rebounder. You guys already have solid offensive players and shooters both starting and off the bench, so you do NOT need another shooter/scorer on the team, especially at the Center spot. If you get both of those guys, you're going to be notably improved overall. Nurk could have been one of the best Centers in the league, but absolutely lost his confidence and passion when he snapped his leg in half for us in Portland. All in all, this would be good long term for both Charlotte and Phoenix.
Jusif nurkic has played so bad I’m glad and hope we get rid of him. Also I say we keep Beal
Which is weird because last year he was serviceable
Been saying this for a hot minute. Move Nurk, and have Beal give you that offensive jolt off the bench. Love the hell outta Nurk, but he’s just simply not compatible with this type of roster.
Trade beal
@ trade Beal
Jimmy Buttler getting your boy Beal out.
Let’s do it!!! Make this trade!!! We’re F’d with draft picks anyway so might as well make it happen.
Yes. I mean once it's clear we aren't winning anything, just trade KD and book for picks
If they upgrade the Center posistion Sundo and Gabe they can compete with anybody.👏🏀
Beal and Josh Green off the bench would be fire power
We also have Grayson who literally bailed this team out last two wins
I feel bad for anyone who gets Nurkshit
LFG!
GET NURKASS OFF OUR TEAM NOW‼️
Mavs fan here
Let’s talk about Green
Strengths include very good athleticism, being Australian, surprisingly decent passing, always gives 110% effort and hustle no matter what, knack for getting 1-2 impressive offensive rebounds a game.
Weaknesses however, struggles a lot to get over screens leading to poor perimeter defense at times, poor confidence on offense to shoot even when left wide open occasionally, avg or streaky shooter on low volume which can be frustrating. Height is 6’3-4 at best and is undersized for a wing player. Struggles to create own shot.
Overall he is an avg role player. Though he is still young and has potential. If Green is your 7th or 8th man in the rotation then he is good in that role. The main reason Dallas replaced green with QGrimes is because grimes is a much more consistent and willing shooter.
Hell yeah Suns might move up to 11th in the west now!
Richards is three years younger, has more room to grow, AND is a better athlete with length. Make it happen.
Why would the Hornets want Nurkic ?
Forget the 31 pick. If this all falls apart and we aren't winning, just trade book and kd for picks.
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Why would the Hornets trade Josh Green?
facts plus there getting nick
He’s a defender too
I don’t think Hornets will give Josh Green and Nick Richard’s for Nurkic. It might be Nick Richards and injured Grant Williams. They may want to move off his contract
Hornets wouldn't do this deal unless they offload equal or more long-term salary.
I think if anything we get Cody Martin instead of Josh green that’s just my opinion
When I watch the Hornets, Richards always jumps off the screen. And look what Washington did after leaving Charlotte. Don't know why they'd just give him away, Williams is always hurt
It’s funny how everyone couldn’t wait to get rid of DA! He’s the problem and ANY player would be better!
So we hyped up Nurk and here we are doing the same! Cheaper, just rebound etc.
How long till we do the same thing again??
Biggest problem is the firing of coaches and significant roster changes.
They are both awful. They need to try someone else. Will it work? Who knows but they need to keep trying.
You can thank me for the breaking news but I am down for nic Richard’s love his game
Fiction can be fun.
If the hornets trade a 27 year old for a 30 year old they are crazy, it’s like the hornets pick up all the reject players grant, josh, Seth, micic, taj, isaiah… This shit is getting out of hand, we don’t have to pick up every unwanted player
The only reason would be to get 2 second round picks since they aren't planning on re signing Richards since they have a better center on the squad. Nurk only has 2 yrs left on his contact.
@ if they were smart they would go get the players like bol bol or emoni bates who have potential but don’t get PT.. It’s even a few in the g that’s playing good, I just wanna know the reasoning behind picking up isaiah Wong
If the hornets trade Nick richards right after he’s finally healthy when the one thing we’ve needed more than anything this season is a big man to stay healthy, for Jusif Nurkic, whoever else the suns would even give up, that’d be ridiculous. For you suns fans that read this, Nick Richards is good. He’s not some absolutely insane player, but god he’s everything nurkic isn’t so if you get him be glad. If I were the hornets I’d genuinely just wait a year to trade Nick, hope he gets even a little better, and trade him elsewhere. He’s not a shooter but he’s a reliable big man in regards to rebounding and scoring, and not the greatest defender but definitely better than what you’ve got. I think I’m the only hornets fan who genuinely cares about what we do with Nick Richards, but he’s the real deal. Not another superstar, but a guy who can actually positively contribute to the game. Yes he’s a random second rounder who panned out and yes they’ll likely get more picks to do something with, but this is highway robbery if the suns pull this off. Peace suns fans
he does not need to shoot at all. actually he is better if he does nt shoot
Okogie should not be traded
i dont think this is a win win nurk has been the worst starting center in the leauge the hornets are not gonna take his contract kinda over optimist also there is no reason there adding josh green
you aint getting green wtf you smoking?
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Yes make it happen! IT WILL IMPROVE US. BET
Well if this happens it will move our needle exactly zero. Let's bring in a smaller guy to help our interior because we are to small. An idiotic move that will do nothing to help our team.
Calm down guy
@Sunsfever83 what do you want them to do? It is not like they have several options in the trade market. It is good that they are actually trying to bring in younger guys.
Lol... You trolling right? 😂
Clearly you aren’t that much of a fan..bc he even dominates jusuf and other centers we threw out there when we played them..do your research
It moves the needle a ton, a big who can score in the pocket, reb blk shots switch on D because he can move his feet
This team is awful . They beat bad teams
They started off 8-1 and beat some good teams in the beginning. Team did fall apart, but they have a lot of potential to make some noise in the playoffs, if they get a good center, and maybe butler. I do think that Beal coming off the bench is great for this team, so maybe they don’t need butler
The Nuggets are a Championship Team 😮....They can Beat Good Teams Too