the bradley beal trade was just one of the worst trade of all time, if they didn't make that trade i believe the suns would've been one of the best teams rn
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Three ball-dominant scorers who can’t stay healthy. Who would’ve thought they’d struggle and they’d just take turns scoring without making each other better?
Having 3 ball dominant scorers is already a bad idea, reasons why many big 3s workout is because 1 of the 3 ball dominant scorers will have to take a step back
KD isn’t ball dominant. You’re not watching the games. He does a hesi or a crossover into a a midrange shot and he gets his 3’s through catch and shoot ( majority )
KD isn’t ball dominant. You’re not watching the games. He does a hesi or a crossover into a a midrange shot and he gets his 3’s through catch and shoot ( majority ) Beal is the problem
Summer of 2024 , Bunch of high school students knew this roster will struggle to make the playoffs. But GM and owner disagree and say this roster can compete for a championship.
When all three guys play(the full game) they're 10-2...Why is this context not being brought up? Literally the only thing that should be said here is that this team is clearly doomed to injury history. They will never get over that hump, all three of these guys will keep getting injured and not play together long enough for any continuity. That is why they are doomed, not because the roster is bad because it really isn't. They were playing great until shocker...injuries happened. It's like impossible for all three to play at once. Crazy how many teams that is the case for this season like Toronto and Phili who would both be better if not for constant injuries as well.
Summer of 2024, 65 yr old baller( A legend in his own mind) knew this player recipe would fail.Love teams the built slowly.This isn't Folgers instant coffee
If I remember correctly the owner of the Suns let his son choose the players like it's 2k. This made the rest of the office pissed off. But he is the owner so blame him and his dumb son
Who would have thought that a team with KD, DBook, and Bradley Beal would be eliminated in a playoff series in the first round. All of them are healthy
Is this a rhetorical question? Cuz it was pretty obvious to me and probably most fans. Sure there was a time where we believed if you had enough pure talent youd make a deep run based on that alone, but after seeing what we've seen the past 5 years and learning from those things, I knew this team was gonna crash and burn
But I'll say this though. They never had a full season together.And this has been an issue following KD since he left Golden State. Kyrie/KD/Harden only played 15-18 games together. KD/Booker/CP3/Ayton only played 8-15 games together. KD/Booker/Beal has played about 20-30 games together. All I'm saying is damm, either he or one of his guys gets injured constantly. They never had a full run together in a season
The KD trade killed this team. Traded away young players at multiple positions and away our future with draft picks for 1 man. In that trade they lost all chemistry because it was a new roster and slim pickings to fill it out with vet min guys. Terrible
- IMO , KD was an okay trade. He played 79 games last season avg 27ppg and finished 9th in MVP. He's always been a pure ISO scorer. When PHO made the 2nd deal w/ Beal, it was a death sentence b/c it's the "same kind" of ISO player who also went from 23ppg to 18ppg (in 53 games).
@@jlui21 Problem is that ISO players not win chips. If they could win James Harden would have 10 chips already. ISO ball is not the way teams can win chips anymore, suns front office just didnt understand how game has changed. ISO ball is history and useless in modern basketball.
Durant can't be the centerpiece of a championship team, he hasn't achieved anything in that role (Thunder, Nets). The only way u can benefit from Durant is to insert him into a solid system where offensive plays are set and run by elite playmakers and defensive rotations are already mastered by role players, thus letting him show his iso-magic and being a difference maker. And you also want to have a strong leader on your team coz Kevin is an introvert who can't lead and motivate the squad.
The beginning of the end for the Suns occurred when they traded for Durant and gave up Bridges and Johnson instead of passing on resigning Ayton. The nail in the coffin was getting rid of Chris Paul for Beal without picking up a young point guard for Paul to mentor as the heir apparent. Chris Paul was their leader and the foundation for their success despite him being washed. Booker and KD aren't leaders.
Couldn't agree with you more. Bridges and Johnson were such a good fit for this team. A lot of people are pointing to the Beal trade but letting those two go definitely started this entire mess. Not sure why they decided to completely blow up a team that made it to the finals.
The beal trade was definitely worse you made ur lineup SG SG tall af SF if it was booker durant and paul and they traded ayton for some athletic young depth this is like a 5-6 in the West team rn
You'd still have to pay him. It's rough situation but have to keep the guy, unless they trade him but they be getting Pennie's back when they have away great draft picks that are gonna be great picks like atleast top 15 picks because they suck and will suck for next few years the way it looks
@@smoothjb2384 Its impossible to trade Beal, his contract is so bad and his value is not even close to what he get paid. Same situation like Zack Lavine, nobody take him because his value is not worth of money what he get paid. Even if suns give Beal for free there is not many teams what can take his contract. Even less teams what are willing to take his contract even if they can.
@@ethio3083 True... but they should have kept the young core and work on replacing CP3.... going old AF players instead was dumb.. and I said it at that time as well... and I was right
He’s still done a lot of good things for the franchise like improve the arena, gave az residents free access to watch games, and lowered concession prices. The previous owner was cheap as hell and traded every promising player if they were too expensive. Not to mention he was a racist
I think you are clueless about the Rockets. I believe that Stone did that trade with the Nets' not to target KD or Booker, but to benefit from the Suns collapsing by other means. Ask yourself... Why would the Rockets do the Suns any favors? They are in competition with the Suns for Western Conference playoff spots. Why would the Rockets want to take on $50m+ contract(s) and lose all the cap flexibility they have while they are on pace to win 56 games? Why would the Rockets want to lose part of their youth, depth and the Suns' picks that will allow them to reload in 2025, 2027 & 2029? Why do the Rockets keep saying over and over that they love their roster? Stone built this team for the long haul and selling part of it off and those future picks for expensive older vets will turn them into what the Suns don't want to be...same with the Rockets. JG $33m + Brooks $21m would match KD or Booker, but why would the Suns want JG over Booker at SG? I can see the Rockets taking on KD's expiring contract, but not Booker. KD for one year is not worth JG + Brooks + the 2027 & 2029 picks and I think the Suns will be asking for those picks or other young core players. Not going to happen either way. The Rockets will most likely trade JD after the season. It will be interesting to see what they seek in return. I think it may surprise everyone.
i've seen every suns game this season.. i don't think it's nearly as bad as it seems. they just need to find a way to trade nurkic for a center who fits better and trade grayson allen for more size (and pray for health lol). allen has a very tradeable contract and he's not really needed. they looked great to start the season.
I’ve also watched every game and they make a ton of simple mistakes and allow the other teams to make quick runs without many of their own. They honestly just need to go back to the offense they had at the start of the season, it was super effective and even though the defense was bad their offense was just that good.
If I’m Houston I’m not trading for either player. KD isn’t of anymore and is injured often and Booker although good is not a winning player. I like what Houston has going on currently I feel like they could make better moves and spread money out to have a big time team with solid role players rather then become phoenix and have all your money in two guys.
both are too TRASH at being an actual LEADER making leadership plays on both end of the ball all GAME to even deserve to play on the rockets with all that YOUNG talent that just needs a CP3 Type to show them what leadership/winning pedigree looks like the same way conley helps keep the WOLVES in line. I trust FRED over those 2 guys for those same Responsibilities.
Not a Rocket fans but I agree, you guys are young, are building good chemistry, and are actually good, why would you want to add one of these max players and change the dynamic of your team, plus the young guys will eventually need to be paid
I feel like the Houston Rockets are the Oklahoma City of last year , I think they’re gonna get bounced in the first or second round but they they are going to be a legit force next year and it’s crazy because they’re going to have the draft picks and cap space to be able to make some real moves in the off-season
Fr bro. The fact they dont even have any allstar and theyre Top 2 team in the West with great defense is crazy. If they finally add a star they can legit start contending. Potential dynasty. OKC is a small city as always they wouldnt be able to afford all those young dudes. Theyll eventually go through the "Harden trade" again and blow it up
It is absolutely shocking how many NBA front offices have never watched basketball before. The owners are obviously just rich people who have no clue what they are doing.
Rockets are not even ready to contend. Last year, they learned how to win at home. This year they are just learning how to win on the road. Next year they will need to learn how to win in the playoffs. Durant does not fit their time line. Booker does.
@@greglyon1402 Whataya talking about? They're 2nd in the west and playing well. Durant can still play and would really offer the Rockets more depth on the bench from one of their current starters. Now who's to say how good of a fit is Durant in Houston, nobody knows unless he gets there. But I'm a suns fan and the dude can still play, take over games. The problem in Phoenix is they have zero depth.
I could see this offseason, if they don't make the playoffs or 1st round exit, they trade dboook to Houston for jalen green and picks. And kd to okc for picks.
@@seanwest9080 You do realize that if you suck with these great players. Those picks Houston has are unprotected. The Rockets have all the leverage because The Suns can't properly rebuild without their own picks. That's why its impossible for them to trade DBook or Durant to a contender. The team they will get traded to will be a low draft pick because they are good.
@@PT84 the rockets have no leverage other than being a "preferred" trade partner for the "privilege" of picks back, especially when the whole world knows how bad of a contract jalen green will be on his extension. Booker is worth way more than just a team's own picks back + jalen green 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@zoesmith231Playing Beal at sf is the dumbest thing phoenix has done all season kd is not a pf he’s naturally a sf but nobody seems to care or understand that kd can’t continue to play against bigger physical pf.
In todays game kds size he a 4. Even bron hated it a few years ago but he just does it now. Can't have two big guys on the floor at the same time unless they move well and shoot the rock. like Mobley Lauri kawhi pascal AG paolo type dudes. Every one of these guys beside maybe Lauri were all pf's 5-8 years ago. Game has changed tho kd a power forward on any team he ever go to
@ ok your logic makes no sense just bc kd has the height of a pf doesn’t mean he should be forced to play it especially if he’s been successful as a sf throughout his entire career. That’s exactly why kd consistently gets hurt he can’t play physically with bigs that’s just the honest truth rather you like or not.
Rockets can have KD. Book been here for too long to just trade him. Look at the timberwolves, everyone is sad that KAT is thriving somewhere else. No matter how booker plays, he’s a fan favorite in phoenix and he always will be
This is an entirely different situation than the Timberwolves trade. The suns don’t have a future and the rockets have all the leverage in the world if the suns want to end it
I’m a Houston Rockets fan none of us would want Kevin Durant what we need is a guard they can get us a bucket consistently when we need it and our gm knows that very much Why do you think he traded for the suns draft picks? He’s totally targeting Devin Booker and unfortunately for the suns they don’t really have a choice if they actually want to rebuild.
@@datstoveyit’s the Washington Wizards. They used to be called bullets but then that name was associated with gangs and so Washington change the name to Wizards. I am bummed that the Mascot isn’t a wizard :(
They NEED a good center AND a GREAT PG. Tyus Jones is great off the bench but Beal or Book is not cutting it to play the PG role. And their centers are straight ass.
Jones is good for his contract for sure. He is little bit small but he still is better than people give him credit for. I would take him in my team if i would be GM.
Since their 2021 run to the finals, any decision the Suns had to make, they managed to make the wrong one. This has been one of the biggest contender-to-clusterf#@& we've seen in the past 20 years. Gosh, it sucks being a Suns fan!
The blame should be laid at the door of the Suns owner Matt Ishbia. He was the one who green-lighted the Bradley Beal trade. They could have used the salary space currently occupied by Beal for solid rotation guys.
I'm going to be honest. K.D is the one I'd be pointing at. Back in 2021 the championship run year there's only 1 last player from that roster. KD just shouldn't be the one to come in to any team and demand changes. With CP3 gone it was a matter of time. Super star teams are just not working anymore. Look for a better future like the thunder, the rockets and the magic. It's about time and rebuilding.
yeah, it doesn’t matter what the fuck the owner wants. If the player doesn’t wanna be there anymore and he knows they have no chance of winning. They are in the cap hell and have no draft picks because they’re owned by the Houston Rockets
dudes sorry AF already a bygone position/era plenty of actual 2 WAY players at his position at the all-star level. SGA, ANT, Dejuonte, spider etc he can have his FINALS Tape of being stripped by holiday and falling chin first to the floor like the soccer player he is. He can take it right to the SUNS HALL Of greatness for all i care and retire there their "FRANCHISE" player that wont even cover his opposing 2 guard.....or begs for a 1st option to play beside as the "FRANCHISE" player. One of the softest dudes in the league. How many belly up playoff games where he doesnt shoot defend do anything.
Suns fans whine no matter what. Suns could get any player out there, and fans would still complain. So, who cares what the dumb fans think? Everyone hates this team regardless. Build for the future.
RIGHT....imagine lou will/jamal crawford getting FRANCHISE/MAX contracts to DUCK defensive matchups...behind a bench player making 20+M(allen) and begging for a 1st option to be traded to your team while being the "FRANCHISE MAX" player. One of the punctuations to the SILVER era is this inflated "TALENT" we call dbook
They would just be making the same mistake as the suns. Throwing away their future to compete right now, for a name rather than actual capability. The rockets need to have patience and keep developing their players. Rather than reaching right now and destroying their future.
@wuzi7049 The difference is Booker actually fits in Houston, is in his prime, and is the exact kind of player they need to get to the next level. It would be smart for Houston to give it time before considering trades, though.
@symbarh Again, they're best waiting things out and seeing how things develop. But if Phoenix gets desperate enough over time, they could not have to cough up too much, if they do have to make a trade. Time will tell.
Long way to go before the end of the season. They were surprising everyone before KD got hurt hanging around the top of the standings for the Western Conference. And I'm not a Suns fan either, just being objective. I'm a Rockets fan and I absolutely do not want KD at this point in his career. I wouldn't mind Booker on our team but I'm not selling the farm for him either! I really like our young core and the only one I'd happily throw in a Booker trade is Jalen Green. It's better for us to deal him in the off-season though once his new contract kicks in. I don't even wanna include Dillon Brooks in a trade. Out of our vets I'd throw in Fred and Steven Adams for any trade netting us a star but would be hesitant to throw any young guys in! Even guys like Cam or Reed who barely play at times.
I think the suns need new centers. Nurkic and Plumlee are terrible centers. No one is afraid of them scoring in the paint. They're not very good on defense. Nurkic always seems like he's running on fumes and Plumlee seems to have butter fingers.
I love DBook and would hate to see him leave the suns, but at the same time if going to the Rockets or a different team gives him a chance at winning, I'd much rather see him win instead of pay with his legacy on the suns which have continually let us down.
That’s probably the most likely outcome him going to the Rockets, because the Rockets have a a lot of the Phoenix Suns draft picks and he would be pretty much the perfect fit for them. They would probably get Jalen Green and their draft picks they sent out to Brooklyn for Durant back
@@litsupa1002 The way you overreact to half a season is crazy to me. Id take this "regressed" version of book over 95% of the league. If he is shit the full season then maybe ill start to worry.
I remember Ishbia getting the suns and then making a several big time deals to get Durant and Beal. At the time I thought it was bold, but also was realistic that if it worked awesome, but I was worried about depth and the future. Perhaps Ishbia will learn to be less hands on.
The team started 9-2 so clearly there is a formula for success and the team wins clutch games when the big three are healthy. If they get a 20-ish game stretch of good health, they’ll be right back in the playoff spots no question. But they need to be a top 3 seed in the west to have any chance of getting easy playoff matchups and that just won’t happen. And there’s no way in hell they’re trading Booker.
yeah, that means they’re big three is all healthy the entire season which clearly doesn’t last that long that is not a good formula at all that you’re relying on three players, to always be healthy
@@jvtopflight796 except they can’t who the fuck wants him? Plus he has a no trade clause, so even if they found a team that wanted to trade for him, he could just straight up say no if he didn’t like the team that was trying to get him.
This just proves that sometimes, less is more. Should have focused less on getting superstars and focused more on adding depth. It's not a coincidence the Suns were struggling with depth.
I'm not saying the Suns situation isn't horrifying, it is. But I think you might have downplayed how bad the injuries have been this season, it's not just KD and Beal that have missed a lot of games. Booker, O'Neal, Nurk, Allen, JO, Gillespie have all missed significant time on a team that already had a massive depth problem.
Houston might as well trade for Houston. They already had Harden and Westbrook, if they take Durant they’ll complete the OKC 3 headed monster all playing for the Rockets.
Make Beal come off the bench, i bet that would motivate him to waive his no trade clause, then go for depth. No need to trade Durant or Booker, built around those 2.
Rocket's definitly don't want Durant. Possibly Booker, but I still don't see that. The Rocket's #3 in the the West. They aren't in shake-things-up mode.
Durant will demand a trade to a better team. He is the ultimate ring chaser.
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Their 1st mistake (tho small) was trading for CP3 instead keepping Rubio (after 15 gms W streak in bubble) and signing FA Jerami Grant. 2nd was trading for KD and 3rd and big one for Beal
i'm still furious that ishbia traded away bridges and cam J for KD maybe there was *some* justification to trading ayton away for that contract drama and locker room tensions, and also letting CP3 walk away since he was aging, but they could have kept the pieces like torrey craig, shamet, cam payne, and dario saric, and gotten a younger point guard to complement a core of booker, bridges and cam J, maybe keeping ayton if the tensions calmed down soon enough, and/or they could have ran it back with a couple of roster upgrades
If I'm the suns I would trade KD to the rockets. Get a young player in ether Jalen green or jabari Smith Jr and get there picks back. Beal I would try anything to try and move him. Tell him we are gonna trade u, what team do you wanna go to and do your best to get him to that team. Get Booker a better co star that'll fit his timeline like a Dearan Fox, trae young, ingram or kuzma. Get them a legit point guard that'll be the vocal leader, that'll run the offense.
Stay the course, or else convince Beal to be traded away. If KD walks, let him, the damage has been done. They shouldn't have traded for him in the first place. The Ayton situation could have been handled much better. Houston may still take Durant, but there are ways to upgrade their talent (getting Booker for example, cough, cough) without trading for him. Booker is still an all-league talent, and trading him away would wreck the franchise even when Phoenix gets some picks back.
Suns should blow it up entirely. Beal got a trade clause so they should trade KD and Booker for a lot of picks and have Beal for the time being as the tank commander. There’s no hope for this team
Man as much as I like KD, I really didn’t like trading away Cam Johnson and Mikal . Those guys were our young, home grown talent. Just image if we had them two, Ryan Dunn and Oso together. The future would have been bright😔
@Edelweiss-w7w , I'm a Rockets fan from Houston. KD can help the team compete for chip this year. They're in 3rd place without him, but need a superstar, and KD would cost last than Booker to get. The Rockets have a surplus of younger players and picks to spare
most rockets fans myself included would prefer Booker I mean honestly all the Rockets needed was Jalen Green to not be terrible and there’s still one of the best teams in the NBA. Imagine if that’s instead of Jalen Green, you have Devin Booker who is way more consistent That team would probably be the second or third best team in the NBA.
@dsbeats5657 , Where did you see me say the Rockets wouldn't want Booker? I said they'd want KD, meaning also. Especially if Phoenix was willing to trade him and not Booker. Lastly, why TF would Phoenix trade Booker, especially for Green, who's not as good. Obviously, Phoenix would want to rebuild/retool around Booker.....again because he's still young.
You realistically trade both kd and booker and still make the play in with Beal and whoever they acquire. Those 3 players don’t mesh Beal isn’t bad he’s just not being used right.
I liked the idea of KD in Phx, but my first thought of bringing Beal in was "Why?". No disrespect to Beal but to me hes always been a fringe All Star whose success came with playing with a bad team for the Wizards. He's never been that It Factor in his entire career, so Phx got fleeced for signing him
This road trip tells all where the franchise is going. If anyone is getting axed it's probably beal, he's no where near the player he was in Washington. Hasn't stayed healthy in a handful of seasons, and it doesn't look to be changing soon.
Haven’t watched the full video so this comment is solely based on the thumbnail…Im a die hard Rockets fan since the late 80s…there are a lot of trade rumors about which superstar Rockets should trade for….the only one that I think would look the best at least on paper is Booker…we don’t want Butler, Durant or even Giannis.
I’m probably not alone but I think a lot of us knew this was a bad idea in today’s nba. It’s like when players try to play GM. Didn’t think it’d be this bad thoug..
No one was saying anything when the Suns were 12-2. The only problem the Suns have is injuries. Nothing to do with the roster. The roster is solid and it showed when everyone was healthy.
Exactly they collapsed when kd got injured and tbh I didn’t see how he really got injured no one did it happened off court ironically this happened right around the time when the suns were building chemistry & continuity kd is either cursed or he is terrible teammate dude can’t stay healthy to save his career give lebron his flowers bc he shouldn’t be this dominant at 40 years of age curry & kd should be doing better instead the lakers are not only doing better than both teams respectively they’re also maybe a trade away from distancing themselves completely
Yeah but it wads also early in the season. Teams will adapt and grow look other teams that also have injured players. Injuries are no longer an excuse.
This is true, but it also doesn't help when the guys you're counting on nightly don't play more than 52 games together a season. This is like last season all over. Cohesion matters
The best case scenario for the suns is to at least trade KD. As currently constructed, they likely cannot win a championship and holding onto this roster has repercussions that will last for awhile (because they don’t have a lot of picks). They need to move on from at least KD and get some picks.
I'll put this out there now: The next Durant trade, if that happens, will be horrible for whoever trades for Durant. I'm assuming he's going to command at least 2 if not 3 first rounders, and there's plenty of crazy win now owners that will demand their GM to pull the trigger. Who ever decides to trade for this schmuck of a player will be the last person holding the bag. Dont get me wrong, I'm not a Durant hater because he's not a good player. He's a generational talent, but this guy has the mentality of a 5 year old. He has a big ego, and a glass heart. He wants to be the MAN, but lacks the skin to brute through the burns. The second things go wrong, he's the first one to hide.
As a suns fan who went for them because of d book, it would be sad if he gets traded but at the end of the day I would understand. What I mostly want is for KD to get traded if we can't trade beal. It is so damn annoying when he gets injured and we lose a bunch of games. Plus we should trade him now before he is washed for good value. We need a good 2nd star like cp3 to help the team.
i want Cam to play more. But if we got Fox then I could be okay. As for Jalen, he was treated the same way last year, sans the G-league. It's all about timing. First 2 years of Alpi and Jalen were with Silas and tanking years. Last year was their first year with structured basketball. So this is technically their 2nd year of accountable basketball. It's timing too that they paid Alpi and Jalen so they should be playing heavy minutes. Cam is in his rookie deal so he should be more patient. If anything, Cam needs to get Reed's minutes or Fred's.
the bradley beal trade was just one of the worst trade of all time, if they didn't make that trade i believe the suns would've been one of the best teams rn
Lakers for Westbrook.
How? Bradley beal is a great player and they only gave away a few pick swap and 2nd rounders. Really wasn't that bad
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@@allball8014not even close. Beals No trade clause pushes the Beal contract into another realm of suffering💀
@@raymondqiu820250 mil no trade clause??? wtf
fire whoever thought getting beal was a good idea.
That’s is what killed them, if they used that money for depth
Matt ishbia wont fire himself
@user-en9rv6pp8t investors can make a vote to kick that guy out.
The owner that runs his team like a 12 year old
@@RR-in7do I remember beals agent having a relationship with the suns team also played a part in that deal. suns is a mess thats for sure.
Three ball-dominant scorers who can’t stay healthy. Who would’ve thought they’d struggle and they’d just take turns scoring without making each other better?
Having 3 ball dominant scorers is already a bad idea, reasons why many big 3s workout is because 1 of the 3 ball dominant scorers will have to take a step back
KD isn’t ball dominant. You’re not watching the games. He does a hesi or a crossover into a a midrange shot and he gets his 3’s through catch and shoot ( majority )
KD isn’t ball dominant. You’re not watching the games. He does a hesi or a crossover into a a midrange shot and he gets his 3’s through catch and shoot ( majority ) Beal is the problem
Also none of them wants the shoot the 3 ball. They step on each other shoes. They are like different versions of same player.
That’s why we keep saying how special Steph curry is. He’s levels above those three guys in Phoenix
I blame the “Sun in 4” Guy for some reason 🤷🏾♂️😂😂
Lol yeah I think thats where it all started
Cursed the team for another week 50 years
Summer of 2024 , Bunch of high school students knew this roster will struggle to make the playoffs. But GM and owner disagree and say this roster can compete for a championship.
When all three guys play(the full game) they're 10-2...Why is this context not being brought up? Literally the only thing that should be said here is that this team is clearly doomed to injury history. They will never get over that hump, all three of these guys will keep getting injured and not play together long enough for any continuity. That is why they are doomed, not because the roster is bad because it really isn't. They were playing great until shocker...injuries happened. It's like impossible for all three to play at once. Crazy how many teams that is the case for this season like Toronto and Phili who would both be better if not for constant injuries as well.
@@RussellD.Westbrook-q9e History has shown us repeatedly that 2 stars and a bunch of role players are what wins NBA titles in the modern era.
Summer of 2024, 65 yr old baller( A legend in his own mind) knew this player recipe would fail.Love teams the built slowly.This isn't Folgers instant coffee
If I remember correctly the owner of the Suns let his son choose the players like it's 2k. This made the rest of the office pissed off. But he is the owner so blame him and his dumb son
Literal insanity
Who would have thought that a team with KD, DBook, and Bradley Beal would be eliminated in a playoff series in the first round. All of them are healthy
Me
Is this a rhetorical question? Cuz it was pretty obvious to me and probably most fans. Sure there was a time where we believed if you had enough pure talent youd make a deep run based on that alone, but after seeing what we've seen the past 5 years and learning from those things, I knew this team was gonna crash and burn
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But I'll say this though. They never had a full season together.And this has been an issue following KD since he left Golden State. Kyrie/KD/Harden only played 15-18 games together. KD/Booker/CP3/Ayton only played 8-15 games together. KD/Booker/Beal has played about 20-30 games together. All I'm saying is damm, either he or one of his guys gets injured constantly. They never had a full run together in a season
The KD trade killed this team. Traded away young players at multiple positions and away our future with draft picks for 1 man. In that trade they lost all chemistry because it was a new roster and slim pickings to fill it out with vet min guys. Terrible
I agree. Beal was just their Grimm reaper bonus.
- IMO , KD was an okay trade. He played 79 games last season avg 27ppg and finished 9th in MVP. He's always been a pure ISO scorer.
When PHO made the 2nd deal w/ Beal, it was a death sentence b/c it's the "same kind" of ISO player who also went from 23ppg to 18ppg (in 53 games).
KD was one thing, they got a player better than anyone on their roster. Beal made no sense.
@@jlui21 Problem is that ISO players not win chips. If they could win James Harden would have 10 chips already. ISO ball is not the way teams can win chips anymore, suns front office just didnt understand how game has changed. ISO ball is history and useless in modern basketball.
Durant can't be the centerpiece of a championship team, he hasn't achieved anything in that role (Thunder, Nets). The only way u can benefit from Durant is to insert him into a solid system where offensive plays are set and run by elite playmakers and defensive rotations are already mastered by role players, thus letting him show his iso-magic and being a difference maker. And you also want to have a strong leader on your team coz Kevin is an introvert who can't lead and motivate the squad.
The beginning of the end for the Suns occurred when they traded for Durant and gave up Bridges and Johnson instead of passing on resigning Ayton.
The nail in the coffin was getting rid of Chris Paul for Beal without picking up a young point guard for Paul to mentor as the heir apparent.
Chris Paul was their leader and the foundation for their success despite him being washed.
Booker and KD aren't leaders.
Couldn't agree with you more. Bridges and Johnson were such a good fit for this team. A lot of people are pointing to the Beal trade but letting those two go definitely started this entire mess. Not sure why they decided to completely blow up a team that made it to the finals.
The beal trade was definitely worse you made ur lineup SG SG tall af SF if it was booker durant and paul and they traded ayton for some athletic young depth this is like a 5-6 in the West team rn
i do understand why CP3 had to go since he was aging after the 2022 season, but they should have kept bridges and cam
If i was a billionaire…
I would waive Beal in 0.2 seconds
You'd still have to pay him. It's rough situation but have to keep the guy, unless they trade him but they be getting Pennie's back when they have away great draft picks that are gonna be great picks like atleast top 15 picks because they suck and will suck for next few years the way it looks
@@smoothjb2384 Its impossible to trade Beal, his contract is so bad and his value is not even close to what he get paid. Same situation like Zack Lavine, nobody take him because his value is not worth of money what he get paid. Even if suns give Beal for free there is not many teams what can take his contract. Even less teams what are willing to take his contract even if they can.
@@smoothjb2384you can’t trade him he has a no trade clause. It’s by far the worst contract in the nva
@@smoothjb2384 comes with the "billionare" and "IF" territory XD we cant forget the lakers BROADIE experiment.
Moving on from CP3 was the biggest mistake. All downhill from there.
*michael bridges and cam Johnson
Cp3 is washed bro what u talking about
@@ethio3083least they made it to the wcf what are you on ?😂 That team has done more then this team
@@ethio3083 True... but they should have kept the young core and work on replacing CP3.... going old AF players instead was dumb.. and I said it at that time as well... and I was right
because they have won so much before CP3...
Rafael Stone is truly a genius
I'm happy they're in this situation. Cocky new owner who thinks he knows it all lol destroyed the team immediately upon buying it
I said the same thing he went in there thinking he was doing something , like he knows ball and literally ruined that team
I said the same thing he went in there thinking he was doing something , like he knows ball and literally ruined that team
Ishbia is the David Tepper of NBA,
He’s still done a lot of good things for the franchise like improve the arena, gave az residents free access to watch games, and lowered concession prices. The previous owner was cheap as hell and traded every promising player if they were too expensive. Not to mention he was a racist
@@ashwinranji8790 Ishbia is the type of guy who would use the term "Sigma male" to describe himself unironically.
I think you are clueless about the Rockets. I believe that Stone did that trade with the Nets' not to target KD or Booker, but to benefit from the Suns collapsing by other means.
Ask yourself...
Why would the Rockets do the Suns any favors? They are in competition with the Suns for Western Conference playoff spots.
Why would the Rockets want to take on $50m+ contract(s) and lose all the cap flexibility they have while they are on pace to win 56 games?
Why would the Rockets want to lose part of their youth, depth and the Suns' picks that will allow them to reload in 2025, 2027 & 2029?
Why do the Rockets keep saying over and over that they love their roster?
Stone built this team for the long haul and selling part of it off and those future picks for expensive older vets will turn them into what the Suns don't want to be...same with the Rockets.
JG $33m + Brooks $21m would match KD or Booker, but why would the Suns want JG over Booker at SG? I can see the Rockets taking on KD's expiring contract, but not Booker. KD for one year is not worth JG + Brooks + the 2027 & 2029 picks and I think the Suns will be asking for those picks or other young core players. Not going to happen either way.
The Rockets will most likely trade JD after the season. It will be interesting to see what they seek in return. I think it may surprise everyone.
The team has no leadership, no dog in that locker room.
Kd a dawg book a dawg there only problem is nurkic is slow as bricks
@@johnathanguimaraes9951 KD and Book are poodles.
@@johnathanguimaraes9951kd is not no dawg bastard can’t stay healthy to save his career
@@johnathanguimaraes9951 Book is a chihuaha lol he just out there yappin when people are there to hold him back he's really not about it like that.
They got a Snake though
i've seen every suns game this season.. i don't think it's nearly as bad as it seems. they just need to find a way to trade nurkic for a center who fits better and trade grayson allen for more size (and pray for health lol). allen has a very tradeable contract and he's not really needed. they looked great to start the season.
I’ve also watched every game and they make a ton of simple mistakes and allow the other teams to make quick runs without many of their own. They honestly just need to go back to the offense they had at the start of the season, it was super effective and even though the defense was bad their offense was just that good.
If I’m Houston I’m not trading for either player. KD isn’t of anymore and is injured often and Booker although good is not a winning player. I like what Houston has going on currently I feel like they could make better moves and spread money out to have a big time team with solid role players rather then become phoenix and have all your money in two guys.
both are too TRASH at being an actual LEADER making leadership plays on both end of the ball all GAME to even deserve to play on the rockets with all that YOUNG talent that just needs a CP3 Type to show them what leadership/winning pedigree looks like the same way conley helps keep the WOLVES in line. I trust FRED over those 2 guys for those same Responsibilities.
@ absolutely agree
Worst Trade ever: Garnett/Pierce
Suns: hold my picks
The Durant trade was fine, it was giving Ayton a max contract and then making the Beal move that completely handcuffed them.
As a rocket fan I don't see any benefit from getting any of those two players and releasing young talent and future pics
Me either I’m so exited for this years draft we might end up getting flagg 😂 😈 🚀
Book.would make us contenders
Not a Rocket fans but I agree, you guys are young, are building good chemistry, and are actually good, why would you want to add one of these max players and change the dynamic of your team, plus the young guys will eventually need to be paid
I feel like the Houston Rockets are the Oklahoma City of last year , I think they’re gonna get bounced in the first or second round but they they are going to be a legit force next year and it’s crazy because they’re going to have the draft picks and cap space to be able to make some real moves in the off-season
Fr bro. The fact they dont even have any allstar and theyre Top 2 team in the West with great defense is crazy. If they finally add a star they can legit start contending. Potential dynasty. OKC is a small city as always they wouldnt be able to afford all those young dudes. Theyll eventually go through the "Harden trade" again and blow it up
😈🚀🚀🚀🚀
Imagine flagg coming to Houston with phoenix 2025 swap
It is absolutely shocking how many NBA front offices have never watched basketball before. The owners are obviously just rich people who have no clue what they are doing.
James Jones was a player w/Bron for years.
I mean it is a business at the end of the day, they are just people trying to make more money that's it😂
James jones had a long nba career and matt ishbia played basketball at Michigan state. You have no idea what you’re talking about
Any team that would trade picks for Durant is crazy. He would only mess up Houstons chemistry
Rockets are not even ready to contend. Last year, they learned how to win at home. This year they are just learning how to win on the road. Next year they will need to learn how to win in the playoffs. Durant does not fit their time line. Booker does.
Tobias sasser thj 5 second and 2031 first from pistons make sense
@@greglyon1402 Whataya talking about? They're 2nd in the west and playing well. Durant can still play and would really offer the Rockets more depth on the bench from one of their current starters. Now who's to say how good of a fit is Durant in Houston, nobody knows unless he gets there. But I'm a suns fan and the dude can still play, take over games. The problem in Phoenix is they have zero depth.
As a rockets fan we rubbing our hands together. Lol
We are not. Just you.
Yes we are
Don't get carried away. This is nice, but you still have to play the cards right.
If you want kevin Durant you deserve the same fate as the nets & suns
@@vlverm7096 thank you. Go be a suns fan
The Rockets shouldn't bail them out. Hang onto those picks.
I could see this offseason, if they don't make the playoffs or 1st round exit, they trade dboook to Houston for jalen green and picks. And kd to okc for picks.
Im sorry. But Jalen Green?????? Ill pass. They dont have enough picks to make that trade sound appealing.
@@seanwest9080Jalen green is a weird fit for Houston and too inconsistent to say what’ll he will turn into in 4/5 years
@@seanwest9080 You do realize that if you suck with these great players. Those picks Houston has are unprotected. The Rockets have all the leverage because The Suns can't properly rebuild without their own picks. That's why its impossible for them to trade DBook or Durant to a contender. The team they will get traded to will be a low draft pick because they are good.
@@PT84 the rockets have no leverage other than being a "preferred" trade partner for the "privilege" of picks back, especially when the whole world knows how bad of a contract jalen green will be on his extension. Booker is worth way more than just a team's own picks back + jalen green 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I doubt OKC would want KD back
Playing with 3 undersized guards would never work
Since when was kd considered an undersized guard?
@@zoesmith231Playing Beal at sf is the dumbest thing phoenix has done all season kd is not a pf he’s naturally a sf but nobody seems to care or understand that kd can’t continue to play against bigger physical pf.
@@zoesmith231Think he means Tyus Jones
In todays game kds size he a 4. Even bron hated it a few years ago but he just does it now. Can't have two big guys on the floor at the same time unless they move well and shoot the rock. like Mobley Lauri kawhi pascal AG paolo type dudes. Every one of these guys beside maybe Lauri were all pf's 5-8 years ago. Game has changed tho kd a power forward on any team he ever go to
@ ok your logic makes no sense just bc kd has the height of a pf doesn’t mean he should be forced to play it especially if he’s been successful as a sf throughout his entire career. That’s exactly why kd consistently gets hurt he can’t play physically with bigs that’s just the honest truth rather you like or not.
Rockets can have KD. Book been here for too long to just trade him. Look at the timberwolves, everyone is sad that KAT is thriving somewhere else. No matter how booker plays, he’s a fan favorite in phoenix and he always will be
I'd be sick if i was a timberwolves fan. Trading the deacde long home grown star who was clearly a key part of the team for RANDLE and DIVENCENZO 🤣🤣
This is an entirely different situation than the Timberwolves trade. The suns don’t have a future and the rockets have all the leverage in the world if the suns want to end it
I’m a Houston Rockets fan none of us would want Kevin Durant what we need is a guard they can get us a bucket consistently when we need it and our gm knows that very much Why do you think he traded for the suns draft picks? He’s totally targeting Devin Booker and unfortunately for the suns they don’t really have a choice if they actually want to rebuild.
@@LolTroll217right... look at the situation now, kat is thriving in the knicks and their team now is 3rd in the east behind boston
As a Rockets I rather wait for this years draft via from phoenix swap and 2027 phoenix pick and trade 2029 phoenix pick
Who tf gives Bradley F’ing Beal a no trade clause? Like who the heck is he to do that for ? Wow that’s crazy smh.
It's the owner of the Washington Bullets he did that
@@datstoveyit’s the Washington Wizards. They used to be called bullets but then that name was associated with gangs and so Washington change the name to Wizards. I am bummed that the Mascot isn’t a wizard :(
They NEED a good center AND a GREAT PG. Tyus Jones is great off the bench but Beal or Book is not cutting it to play the PG role. And their centers are straight ass.
Jones is good for his contract for sure. He is little bit small but he still is better than people give him credit for. I would take him in my team if i would be GM.
Since their 2021 run to the finals, any decision the Suns had to make, they managed to make the wrong one. This has been one of the biggest contender-to-clusterf#@& we've seen in the past 20 years. Gosh, it sucks being a Suns fan!
As a suns fan I would love for booker to be able to win somewhere else. He's put up with the suns long enough for me to be a lifelong fan of his
The blame should be laid at the door of the Suns owner Matt Ishbia. He was the one who green-lighted the Bradley Beal trade. They could have used the salary space currently occupied by Beal for solid rotation guys.
I'm going to be honest. K.D is the one I'd be pointing at. Back in 2021 the championship run year there's only 1 last player from that roster. KD just shouldn't be the one to come in to any team and demand changes. With CP3 gone it was a matter of time. Super star teams are just not working anymore. Look for a better future like the thunder, the rockets and the magic. It's about time and rebuilding.
Ill never understand the Beal trade
Upside that never materialized
Audibly laughed out loud when you said they dont have control of their picks until 2031. Didnt know that. Holy shit.
I would rather have Cam Johnson and Bridges over Kevin Duranr.
Devin Booker doesn't want to leave the Suns. The Owner wants him to retire there.
Lol for WHAT lol .. if I'm Book I'm not re-signing
yeah, it doesn’t matter what the fuck the owner wants. If the player doesn’t wanna be there anymore and he knows they have no chance of winning. They are in the cap hell and have no draft picks because they’re owned by the Houston Rockets
I would wanna play with Rockets to actually contend in a team with great defense, great coaching who can actually compete
dudes sorry AF already a bygone position/era plenty of actual 2 WAY players at his position at the all-star level. SGA, ANT, Dejuonte, spider etc he can have his FINALS Tape of being stripped by holiday and falling chin first to the floor like the soccer player he is. He can take it right to the SUNS HALL Of greatness for all i care and retire there their "FRANCHISE" player that wont even cover his opposing 2 guard.....or begs for a 1st option to play beside as the "FRANCHISE" player. One of the softest dudes in the league. How many belly up playoff games where he doesnt shoot defend do anything.
Are u 7
If they trade away Devin Booker that would be a financial disaster because he is the fan favorite
Suns fans whine no matter what. Suns could get any player out there, and fans would still complain. So, who cares what the dumb fans think? Everyone hates this team regardless. Build for the future.
Financial disaster? Not even.
RIGHT....imagine lou will/jamal crawford getting FRANCHISE/MAX contracts to DUCK defensive matchups...behind a bench player making 20+M(allen) and begging for a 1st option to be traded to your team while being the "FRANCHISE MAX" player. One of the punctuations to the SILVER era is this inflated "TALENT" we call dbook
The Suns should trade KD
I actually hope Booker ends up in Houston. They could be a serious contender with that defense, him on the wings and Sengun on the block.
They would just be making the same mistake as the suns. Throwing away their future to compete right now, for a name rather than actual capability. The rockets need to have patience and keep developing their players. Rather than reaching right now and destroying their future.
@wuzi7049
The difference is Booker actually fits in Houston, is in his prime, and is the exact kind of player they need to get to the next level. It would be smart for Houston to give it time before considering trades, though.
@@J-Hue No, the Rockets will actually give up a lot of those defensive players for Booker, who doesn't play defence.
@symbarh
Again, they're best waiting things out and seeing how things develop. But if Phoenix gets desperate enough over time, they could not have to cough up too much, if they do have to make a trade. Time will tell.
@@symbarh no they won’t. Rockets have all the leverage. The suns will have to take Jalen green, salary fillers plus picks or no deal
Long way to go before the end of the season. They were surprising everyone before KD got hurt hanging around the top of the standings for the Western Conference. And I'm not a Suns fan either, just being objective. I'm a Rockets fan and I absolutely do not want KD at this point in his career. I wouldn't mind Booker on our team but I'm not selling the farm for him either! I really like our young core and the only one I'd happily throw in a Booker trade is Jalen Green. It's better for us to deal him in the off-season though once his new contract kicks in. I don't even wanna include Dillon Brooks in a trade. Out of our vets I'd throw in Fred and Steven Adams for any trade netting us a star but would be hesitant to throw any young guys in! Even guys like Cam or Reed who barely play at times.
You're right. This is all click bait stuff. Last year their record wasn't much different at this point and they finished 49-33.
Good analysis, Sporting.
The issue for the Suns is that DBook took a huge step back this year and now I don't think his value is even that high
I think the suns need new centers. Nurkic and Plumlee are terrible centers. No one is afraid of them scoring in the paint. They're not very good on defense. Nurkic always seems like he's running on fumes and Plumlee seems to have butter fingers.
I love DBook and would hate to see him leave the suns, but at the same time if going to the Rockets or a different team gives him a chance at winning, I'd much rather see him win instead of pay with his legacy on the suns which have continually let us down.
That’s probably the most likely outcome him going to the Rockets, because the Rockets have a a lot of the Phoenix Suns draft picks and he would be pretty much the perfect fit for them. They would probably get Jalen Green and their draft picks they sent out to Brooklyn for Durant back
Im cool with moving on from KD. Shit was a failure of the highest degree. But id be heated if they move Book.
The way Suns fans over-rate Booker should be studied! That guy has been A Z Z this season! Regressing at 28! 😂🤣😂
@@litsupa1002 The way you overreact to half a season is crazy to me. Id take this "regressed" version of book over 95% of the league. If he is shit the full season then maybe ill start to worry.
I remember Ishbia getting the suns and then making a several big time deals to get Durant and Beal. At the time I thought it was bold, but also was realistic that if it worked awesome, but I was worried about depth and the future. Perhaps Ishbia will learn to be less hands on.
The team started 9-2 so clearly there is a formula for success and the team wins clutch games when the big three are healthy. If they get a 20-ish game stretch of good health, they’ll be right back in the playoff spots no question. But they need to be a top 3 seed in the west to have any chance of getting easy playoff matchups and that just won’t happen. And there’s no way in hell they’re trading Booker.
Yea keep KD and Book healthy and on the court.. Beal needs to be traded expeditiously
yeah, that means they’re big three is all healthy the entire season which clearly doesn’t last that long that is not a good formula at all that you’re relying on three players, to always be healthy
@@jvtopflight796 except they can’t who the fuck wants him? Plus he has a no trade clause, so even if they found a team that wanted to trade for him, he could just straight up say no if he didn’t like the team that was trying to get him.
This just proves that sometimes, less is more. Should have focused less on getting superstars and focused more on adding depth. It's not a coincidence the Suns were struggling with depth.
I'm not saying the Suns situation isn't horrifying, it is. But I think you might have downplayed how bad the injuries have been this season, it's not just KD and Beal that have missed a lot of games. Booker, O'Neal, Nurk, Allen, JO, Gillespie have all missed significant time on a team that already had a massive depth problem.
Houston might as well trade for Houston. They already had Harden and Westbrook, if they take Durant they’ll complete the OKC 3 headed monster all playing for the Rockets.
I feel like I hear “the biggest nightmare in the NBA right now is the Phoenix Suns” every 4-5 years 💀
Never understood the idea that getting a more injury prone B+ version of Devin Booker was gonna be the last piece of a title contender smh
Make Beal come off the bench, i bet that would motivate him to waive his no trade clause, then go for depth. No need to trade Durant or Booker, built around those 2.
I knew the suns were cooked when they traded most of there core for kd😂
Rocket's definitly don't want Durant. Possibly Booker, but I still don't see that. The Rocket's #3 in the the West. They aren't in shake-things-up mode.
The KD and Beal trade ruined us man. I hurt to say it as a suns fan but it just sucks
Yeah idk why they traded for Beal. I’m convinced I can be a GM in the NBA after that trade
What happened to Booker? He doesn't drive to the hoop anymore, wtf
Durant will demand a trade to a better team. He is the ultimate ring chaser.
Their 1st mistake (tho small) was trading for CP3 instead keepping Rubio (after 15 gms W streak in bubble) and signing FA Jerami Grant.
2nd was trading for KD and 3rd and big one for Beal
i'm still furious that ishbia traded away bridges and cam J for KD
maybe there was *some* justification to trading ayton away for that contract drama and locker room tensions, and also letting CP3 walk away since he was aging, but they could have kept the pieces like torrey craig, shamet, cam payne, and dario saric, and gotten a younger point guard to complement a core of booker, bridges and cam J, maybe keeping ayton if the tensions calmed down soon enough, and/or they could have ran it back with a couple of roster upgrades
No one in phoenix wanted beal, durant, or nurkic. No one wants to trade booker. The new owner sucks. We have a team to sell jersey's, not win games.
If I'm the suns I would trade KD to the rockets. Get a young player in ether Jalen green or jabari Smith Jr and get there picks back.
Beal I would try anything to try and move him. Tell him we are gonna trade u, what team do you wanna go to and do your best to get him to that team. Get Booker a better co star that'll fit his timeline like a Dearan Fox, trae young, ingram or kuzma.
Get them a legit point guard that'll be the vocal leader, that'll run the offense.
Kevin Durant request a TRADE 🔜 🤔🧐🤨🧐
Agree 1000% as a suns fan
Stay the course, or else convince Beal to be traded away. If KD walks, let him, the damage has been done. They shouldn't have traded for him in the first place. The Ayton situation could have been handled much better. Houston may still take Durant, but there are ways to upgrade their talent (getting Booker for example, cough, cough) without trading for him. Booker is still an all-league talent, and trading him away would wreck the franchise even when Phoenix gets some picks back.
Suns should blow it up entirely. Beal got a trade clause so they should trade KD and Booker for a lot of picks and have Beal for the time being as the tank commander. There’s no hope for this team
Man as much as I like KD, I really didn’t like trading away Cam Johnson and Mikal . Those guys were our young, home grown talent. Just image if we had them two, Ryan Dunn and Oso together. The future would have been bright😔
Bradley Beal getting traded to the Suns AND a NTC is what's screwing Phoenix
Bradley Beal the Kirk Cousins of the Nba
Booker=Soft
KD=Soft
Beal=Soft
Trade Booker for Bronny asap! That will turn the franchise around quickly. 😊
I can see Houston wanting Booker, not Durant.
They'd want KD as well
@@shawncain882 The organization might, but Rockets fans don't
@Edelweiss-w7w , I'm a Rockets fan from Houston. KD can help the team compete for chip this year. They're in 3rd place without him, but need a superstar, and KD would cost last than Booker to get. The Rockets have a surplus of younger players and picks to spare
most rockets fans myself included would prefer Booker I mean honestly all the Rockets needed was Jalen Green to not be terrible and there’s still one of the best teams in the NBA. Imagine if that’s instead of Jalen Green, you have Devin Booker who is way more consistent That team would probably be the second or third best team in the NBA.
@dsbeats5657 , Where did you see me say the Rockets wouldn't want Booker? I said they'd want KD, meaning also. Especially if Phoenix was willing to trade him and not Booker.
Lastly, why TF would Phoenix trade Booker, especially for Green, who's not as good. Obviously, Phoenix would want to rebuild/retool around Booker.....again because he's still young.
The raptors could make a competitive offer if Phenoix maybe only wants to get rid of 1 of kd/booker and still try to compete
Beal's trade is a killer.
Beals no trade clause literally sunk them. Hopefully everyone in the NBA learns a lesson
Dbook to the Lakers for Rui Knecht JHS & 2 1st 😂
I hate the thumbnail. Super misleading implying that D Book was traded to Houston.
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Acting like you have never seen a jersey swap that hasn't happened. Quit whining.
Welcome to 2025, where everything is fake.
you clicked thats the point
You realistically trade both kd and booker and still make the play in with Beal and whoever they acquire. Those 3 players don’t mesh Beal isn’t bad he’s just not being used right.
Happy new yr family, wishing everyone a blessed yr. Nets fans are the best fans 💫🗽
One thing I love about sports is Names don’t win you games. Players do
I liked the idea of KD in Phx, but my first thought of bringing Beal in was "Why?". No disrespect to Beal but to me hes always been a fringe All Star whose success came with playing with a bad team for the Wizards. He's never been that It Factor in his entire career, so Phx got fleeced for signing him
The Beal trade was the worst trade in NBA history!
This road trip tells all where the franchise is going. If anyone is getting axed it's probably beal, he's no where near the player he was in Washington. Hasn't stayed healthy in a handful of seasons, and it doesn't look to be changing soon.
If only they had a center
It's that giant Stick that has caused them to SINK
Haven’t watched the full video so this comment is solely based on the thumbnail…Im a die hard Rockets fan since the late 80s…there are a lot of trade rumors about which superstar Rockets should trade for….the only one that I think would look the best at least on paper is Booker…we don’t want Butler, Durant or even Giannis.
Saying LeBron popularized the big 3 is genuinely stupid. It's been a thing since the 60s Lakers
I’m probably not alone but I think a lot of us knew this was a bad idea in today’s nba. It’s like when players try to play GM. Didn’t think it’d be this bad thoug..
No one was saying anything when the Suns were 12-2. The only problem the Suns have is injuries. Nothing to do with the roster. The roster is solid and it showed when everyone was healthy.
Exactly they collapsed when kd got injured and tbh I didn’t see how he really got injured no one did it happened off court ironically this happened right around the time when the suns were building chemistry & continuity kd is either cursed or he is terrible teammate dude can’t stay healthy to save his career give lebron his flowers bc he shouldn’t be this dominant at 40 years of age curry & kd should be doing better instead the lakers are not only doing better than both teams respectively they’re also maybe a trade away from distancing themselves completely
That's a risk when you get older players especially KD who has a history of bad injuries. You sign up for the good and the bad.
But, that's the point. Durant and Beal are notoriously injury-prone...and it's not going to get better.
Yeah but it wads also early in the season. Teams will adapt and grow look other teams that also have injured players. Injuries are no longer an excuse.
This is true, but it also doesn't help when the guys you're counting on nightly don't play more than 52 games together a season. This is like last season all over. Cohesion matters
The best case scenario for the suns is to at least trade KD. As currently constructed, they likely cannot win a championship and holding onto this roster has repercussions that will last for awhile (because they don’t have a lot of picks). They need to move on from at least KD and get some picks.
I'll put this out there now: The next Durant trade, if that happens, will be horrible for whoever trades for Durant. I'm assuming he's going to command at least 2 if not 3 first rounders, and there's plenty of crazy win now owners that will demand their GM to pull the trigger. Who ever decides to trade for this schmuck of a player will be the last person holding the bag. Dont get me wrong, I'm not a Durant hater because he's not a good player. He's a generational talent, but this guy has the mentality of a 5 year old. He has a big ego, and a glass heart. He wants to be the MAN, but lacks the skin to brute through the burns. The second things go wrong, he's the first one to hide.
It happened when he moved out of Oklahoma and no longer associated with OKC.
4:28 rare sighting of Zion actually on the court
Franchises love paying players instead of making them earn their wages
That’s what happens when you have an owner who solely cares about revenue and thinks the league is a my career irl
honestly, if they didn't get Beal...it felt like a weird trade
Booker is the all in piece the Magic will be making in the off-season. Book it.
I love the mike bibby reference
As a suns fan who went for them because of d book, it would be sad if he gets traded but at the end of the day I would understand. What I mostly want is for KD to get traded if we can't trade beal. It is so damn annoying when he gets injured and we lose a bunch of games. Plus we should trade him now before he is washed for good value. We need a good 2nd star like cp3 to help the team.
i want Cam to play more. But if we got Fox then I could be okay.
As for Jalen, he was treated the same way last year, sans the G-league. It's all about timing. First 2 years of Alpi and Jalen were with Silas and tanking years. Last year was their first year with structured basketball. So this is technically their 2nd year of accountable basketball. It's timing too that they paid Alpi and Jalen so they should be playing heavy minutes. Cam is in his rookie deal so he should be more patient. If anything, Cam needs to get Reed's minutes or Fred's.