YOUR CAR IS SPYING ON YOU... How far is too Far?? WAS ORWELL RIGHT?
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- Today on Unity Motorsports Garage I revisit a video that was put out by our buddy Greg from @GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles on his new 2024 Ecoboost Ford Mustang
at the time I didn't think about it too hard until the other day. I was scrolling through my news feed and what showed up?
We are in a state of surveillance with our automobiles!
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Thanks for mentioning me. I do think this is becoming a serious issue. Raising your auto insurance rates based on driving habits is only the beginning.
Yeah Greg your video really got me thinking and then when those articles showed up my news feed it IMMEDIATELY made me think of your Video... Everyone needs to watch it
Andy
I was worried about this when GM introduced Onstar. They can listen to you, monitor the ECM and location of the vehicle and much worse ..shut your car down remotely! I have seen that Ford is trying to set up the self drive and give it the ability to self repossess and drive back to the dealer if you miss a payment. I'm good.....I am trying to get my 50's and 60's vehicles ready before I retire. I really wish someone would have taught me how to set up a points distributor. Lol
@@terrycarter8929good thinking! Andy can certainly teach you how to do that. Maybe he can make a video explaining the basics of it for any classic…if he hasn’t already.
So a car wreck survival kit should now include a stungun to fry the ecu after the wreck.
That is funny but true... 😆
Andy
Unfortunately, the issue isn’t that it collects and stores info for later retrieval that can be erased or destroyed. It’s linked to the mother ship so where is this info being kept? Who “owns” your driving data or other behaviors? The FAA, with ADSB, mandated the same type of surveillance for small, private aircraft in Jan, 2020. Even phone location records are already used to gather suspects for murders, etc. Just being pinged by a tower nearby can be cause for questioning. Not black helicopter stuff at all. It’s tech that can be very helpful BUT the false positives are pretty hard to disprove to an algorithm. I don’t like to have to prove my innocence.
Just bought a brand new Nissan last weekend. At the dealership they give you a official form from Nissan stating they will collect everything they can from you. You have to sign the form, otherwise the dealer can not release the car to you. Its mental!!
Are you serious?
@@19jody72 100% , I told the seller I do not feel comfortable signing, but then no car. This is international business. Mental..., and it need to stop.
@@19jody72 : Yes. its scary. And this needs to change!
Yeah no thanks
Definitely no cars after 2009 for me
I would’ve walked out and left that car where it sat. But I’m into driving old cars anyway.
I'll keep my 26 year old F250 with a 460 running... It doesn't send data anywhere. (1) pcm (stock) computer runs it.
NOT subject to software updates/glitches, etc. No '30 electronic modules' to fail, and how long are replacement modules going to be made for new cars? 10 years down the road, is Oreilly's going to be stocking the power seat module
If I need 4wd, yes, I have to lock the front hubs myself. Easy enough to do if I need it. Then just pull the lever, no '4wd button' and motors/vacuum modulators to fail.
Traction control? My right foot.
(That being said, I do plan on getting an upgrade that will allow me to work with tuning on the original PCM. Last PCM lasted 25 years. But that's as far as I'm willing to push the electronics.)
If your car is internet connected, (mapping, infotainment, etc., chances are, it's sending data to companies, who sell that data to other companies.
Carburetors don't spy lol
And don't have any pointless sensors that can go bad and leave you stranded.
Amen to that!
Andy
Yes, I think you nailed it. Between the phone and car! You are F! How do we get our lives back? Go back in time and start paying cash. Crazy stuff for sure.
About 10 years ago I went back to dealing only in cash. It was very hard and some of it became time consuming. As a whole, that would be easier than getting a huge majority of the population to get rid of electronics to make a point. With that, I’d definitely get on board!
It’s ALL coming. The collection is already there. Police will be able to research it all at will to “Protect the public”. I don’t even want a new truck. 69 Camaro, 06 grand marquis, 07 Tundra. And they have quite a bit of electronics. I don’t mind ECM or whatever it takes to run car. It doesn’t need to link outside of car. I don’t blue tooth my phone.
Amen... when they started linking cars to the cell towers/satellites thats when I said there is no reason to buy one of these "big brother vehicles" the automotive industry is in cahoots with the govt been this way for awhile hence why almosy all the main production models look basically the same just a different badge and flavor. We as consumers have the power, but unfortunately a lot of stupid people in this world.
I’m not a conspiracy guy but they’ve already demonstrated their ambition to utilize the opportunity of situations like viruses, crime to control.
Two words, BIG BROTHER......
We need aftermarket, third party operating systems a consumer can install and opt out.
I will have a standalone system on the Crown Vic..
Andy
@@MrSwinger1 You should post under your real identity as much trash as you talk.
EPA just made it all illegal
EPA just made it all illegal this is why I don’t buy new cars!!! Always 05 and older but even then u gotta watch.
💯John.
Timing coincidence, Andy, but Lehto's Law did a legal case on tracking 3 days ago, and one today on "jamming" trackers.
time to go to back to the good old aux cable!
Thanks Andy, I agree. How far is far enough? I've had suspicions for many years and that's why I drive my '84 Mustang, 1981 f-250, 1995 f-150, and our 2003 Durango.
It's beyond crazy if you ask me..
Thanks for watching
Andy
The problem is people keep buying the crap.
I know right! It doesn't matter how ugly, hard to work on, or inefficient they make modern cars. Soccer moms and tech bros still buy the garbage because its trendy.
Partly, yes, but the biggest piece of the puzzle is government regulation. That’s where it’s going to get uglier and uglier. I suspect we’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg.
My 66 Corvette sure as hell ain't tattling, and my '08 Sol GXP has had the Onstar disco'd as long as I've had it.
I drive a truck that has a in cab and front facing cam. My late model Lincoln has all the black box tech. Yes, it's gone too far.
It's pretty crazy if you ask me..
Thanks for watching
Andy
Funny you mentioned this. Ever have a problem with something, only to suddenly start getting ads on UA-cam or Facebook concerning this same problem? Have you started getting call after call from phone numbers you don't recognize? Big Brother is watching!
These engine remote kill switches should be illegal. Imagine the havoc a hacker could inflict
How about a self driving car that drives itself back to the dealer when you miss a payment?
Last year Ford announced they will have the ability to remotely turn off features in your car, such as the infotainment system, power windows/locks, power seats, and the A/C.
They will also have the ability to lock you out of the car, and drive it away from your house.
To see the article search: caranddriver ford self repossession.
I’m fully expecting law enforcement to get warrants to have your car testify against you whenever they want. I think it’s an obvious violation of the 4th and 5th amendments, but most people won’t understand and will let it happen.
As far as I know, Ford has been collecting data from vehicles since the 2004 Mustang, and a bit later in other models. Back then they would scan it when taken to a dealer. GM has been collecting data since OnSTAR. Early models had limited data sent and needed to be collected at dealership for bulk data. These days, everything has GPS and wireless transmitting. If your vehicle can do an Over the Air (OTA) update, it can transmit all data. My 2014 Mustang that sees track duty has the head unit removed, GPS and transmitter removed and ECU adjusted to remove all this. This also has an upside of having the dealer stopping from calling me about oil changes and if I want to sell my low mileage car. In fact they think it's totalled since it's not reporting back.
If I go in someone else's car I turn off my phone or at least disable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Of course it's gone to far, but there's no stopping it. All manufacturers are guilty of it. Go buy a new combine or bulldozer, same deal there. Isn't life great?
My car is NOT spying on me, I drive an old car. Pre 1995 is the way to go.
LOL, since when is a 1969 Camaro or a 1974 Trans Am uncool?
@@MrSwinger1
Thanks for bringing this to light, people don’t pay enough attention to the issue. We need to speak up.
Im absolutely with you, Andy! The first thing I heared about was that cars had like some kind of „black box“ storage in the ECU, where data from ABS like speed and some stuff from the last 30 seconds before crashing was saved and could be read by peofessionals.
The first thing that really made me suspicous was the cameras on teslas, which record everything.
What you described here goes way too far in my opinion and is a typical case for the age of „Big Data“.
I love old vehicles, normally for other reasons, but now I have at least 500 pages more reasons to stick with those!
Greetings from Germany,
Alex
I have a coworker dealing with a very serious vehicle accident, in which information acquired from his BMW computer is being used to prosecute him! Plus information and pictures from his phone are being used against him. 😢
@@crw3673 thats what you dont want… Better stay with the old 🫣
Thanks Brother...
UNITY!!.
Thanks for watching Zero!
Andy
I'd like a nice 1980 chevy wagon or a 68 vista cruiser with newer powertrain ,vintage air, good suspension...........thats all i need ...ok maybe an old pickup too.
None of my cars spy on me. When I built my daily driver I particularly chose a year model with no computer anything. Its 100% analog and I love it. 🙂
🎶I always feel like somebody's watchin' me
And I have no privacy (Oh-oh-oh)
I always feel like somebody's watchin' me
Tell me, is it just a dream?🎶
YUP... 😆
Andy
When i'm in the shower i'm afraid to wash my hair...
Great video Andy! This crap has been going on for well over a decade now and is exactly why I do not and will not own these "modern" vehicles. My daily is a 1996 Dodge pickup and I'm perfectly happy with it. Today's invasion of privacy completely unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, Tony it has gone too far! It's all about money... Data collection is a huge business
Andy
Good video! Any is too much!
Thanks Charlie! And you are right..
Andy
Great video when I bought my used 2013 Impala i discounted the on star right away .
Big fan of Greg and his channel!
Two of my favorite topics: Airplanes & Automobiles
Mine too!
Thanks for watching
Andy
G'day Andy. I just watched a video from Steve Lehto (attourney at law)on the use of GPS jammers in Finland to stop the stealing of information from cars. Might be worth a look.
Caught a stone in the work van,a 2021 ford transit.
Costs 2k and needs to be calibrated.
Takes like 4 button presses to reset the trip odometer.
This is progress.
Yeah something told me to not Bluetooth my phone to it.
There was a list of previous users though.
A person's mobile phone has tracking on it as soon as you activate it, 😂 drive a car from the 60s without computer 😅, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
If there is a way to turn it off you would have to have a program like Fore Scan if you have a Ford vehicle. I have this program and you can go in and turn off or turn on software items. It is free to download if you just want to use it to tune your vehicle.
Our 2007 Cadillac DTS was hacked …
Completely Shut off
(Dead)
I just got a new 2024 Ford F-150 and was going through the settings. There are settings to turn off the transmitting and sharing of data. I turned one too many off and then the Ford Pass app had no info about mileage and where the truck was located. If an app is going to use your phone and use your contact list to call who you wish to call, then the app needs permission to do this. Just like Facebook recently let everyone know that they have a right to your photos you upload. It is because when you upload that photo to Facebook, it is published to the public on Facebook's platform. So Facebook has to have rights to your uploaded photos so it can be shown on your page and for others to then share on their page. I am not saying entities don't sell your habits so others can profit, but the rights thing is necessary. We do have the option of not connecting our phones to the car. But I sigh and connect it because hands free driving during a phone call is safer. It is also annoying that at every intersection there seems to be a camera watching me. Yes it would be nice to go back to living like it was 50 years ago, however the new technology is awesome!
The Gangster Lincoln has factory chrome 16” wheels with yellow stripe white wall Vogue Tires.
I’ll send you some pictures buddy :)
Review the wiring diagram. Find the transmitter. Disable transmitter. Disable data aquisition instruments?
Hey Andy,
Tim here, it all started with automatic door locks.......you put it in gear, it LOCKS the doors....NO, my boss almost turned down his NEW (at the time) '04 King Ranch F-250 cuz it locked the doors, he put it back in park, and said REMOVE IT, OR NO DEAL!!...he was paying cash......their computer removed it.....but to me, THAT was the beginning of all this GARBAGE!!!........
Casper really is a Ghost Now!!!!!
FoMoCo get's absolutely Nothing out of Casper.
One more reason I LOVE carburetors and Old School Cool.
It is more insidious than you might think, it does not for instance take much of an imagination to surmise that if your phone has been in bluetooth range of someone else's and for how long that the car or the phone will pass the info on. My current car of course remembered the previous owner's home address and their phone contacts until I wiped the data. I am not up to anything criminal, but the invasion of privacy is not welcome. We all tend to have many devices continuously leaking our information. Assembling the data from various devices could give a third party a huge insight into our lives. One of my company vehicles had GPS tracking linked with OBD data, it was for the usual fleet management purposes but the data was misused by the company. Don't delude yourself that you can disappear by using an old-tech car, certainly here in the UK there are various plate recognition systems in place to track the movements of vehicles.
Unfortunately the "innocent" collection of drivetrain telemetry will be subject to court orders in the event of an investigation. It would not take much of a stretch of the imagination to have a situation where authorities are automatically informed of vehicles exceeding speed limits etc.
Phones know where we go , how fast, etc. Our cars have had recorded data for at least 20 years. I found it before they made it unavailable to mechanics at the dealer completely by accedent. It was a chrysler and the module was under the console.
They have been doing this OB2 thear watching your every move
I worked on a subaru the other day that had a parasitic draw. I ended up tracing it to the GPS locating device that is installed from the factory. this one was malfunctioning, but in the service information it actually says in more complicated terms that if the tracker loses signal it will kill the cars battery trying send it's location. it will continue to send a signal for like 14 days straight before it finally gives up and the battery will not last even half that long. welcome to 1984.
How does the vehicle upload your information? Is it using your phone data to upload to the manufacturer? Or is the dealer downloading it during service?
When I wrecked my 2012 Mustang, insurance wanted to collect the data from the incident recorder. I told them that it would show what I told them, I opened the throttle too much, lost control and rolled it. Still got paid out. I had ensured previously that the info collected was one way and not reported out to Ford. Newer cars I bet are way more intrusive because we surrender our personal info way too easily. I do love Greg, he's super smart.
BTW, the replacement 2014 got a TVS supercharger and gets WOT pretty often at the strip. :)
I am a Ford parts counterman of 23 years. I know you can disable vehicle health reporting so we as a dealer can't see it, but not sure if it stops all reporting to Ford Motor Company...
Started noticing sketchy stuff with this several years ago when even the lower end models came with automatically with navigation, satelite radio and the works as far as tech. Fun fact. Not calling out a particular brand that has already been called out in this thread but some of their premium models if any of the IT master (the whole brains of the sound system that contains navigation) is diconnected it will not even start the engine. Scary!!
We are free as free range chickens. Even have been given the right to vote to make us feel free😅
I’ll keep driving my 66 428 Galaxie & 06 P71 Vic!
This is vehicles with the FordPass Connect Modem installed I'm guessing. Our 2015 Ford Mustang Ecoboost isn't equipped with one I don't believe!
Folks, it's not only your car; everything branded as "Smart" is a surveillance device. Phones, TV's, Fridge, Thermostat, door bell, and so on. Many of these devices cross link you to everyone in your contact list, or even simply a total stranger you are near. A "pattern of life" is built for each of us.
Car Coach had a video about kill switches several months ago. Lane correction sydtems won't let you move left or right without using your blinker first. This could be dangerous if it jerks you back. What if you swerve to miss a deer and your car shuts off at night in the cold in the middle of nowhere? Crazy! I still play cds not bluetooth in my 17 year old vehicles. Lol
Extra reasons to keep my 1997 Saab 9000 and 2002 9-5 going as long as possible, besides of course from the fact that they are great vehicles. And even better, Saab won't be able to snitch on me anyhow 😁.
It's even worse then you know. The OEMs already have in place the ability to remotely shutdown your vehicle. The infrastructure bill came with mandating the OEMs to have an immobilizer system in place that can detect alcohol in your body. A whole lot of reasons to keep my '08 as long as I can.
Orwell's version of the future in his book 1984 is so close to reality that it's scary. Look what happening in Canadian now. Its coming here if nothing changes in November. It might be too late already.
Great video Andy, I have that same jacket
I'm sure it spies to a degree, but I'm glad I bought my 2018 Chrysler 300s 5.7L Hemi when I did. It will be the last new car I ever buy, most likely, and it has more gadgetry than I even wanted. I have a Sirius XM subscription, but other than that, I don't feel tethered in any way with this vehicle. Drove it to the past 2 No Name Nationals from Georgia, and good Lord willing, I'll be driving it again this year. Might make the Tailgate Drags in Arkansas if I can get a rider to join. 27-29mpg at 70-80mph for 9hrs one way!! God Bless the USA!!
carbs and p pumps. I am going to miss electronics, I will miss freedom and privacy more.
Damn Andy now I have another reason not to drive my turbo 2006 Mustang , it just sits in garage and the cat sleeps on it.
Eric Peters has been talking about this for years. Check him out he's a auto reviewer.
Yup, especially in motor vehicle fatalities, we download all the data in the car's black box...at least ovwr 15 years now...
Yeah best I can tell it goes back to around 2007 ish
Andy
Its always collecting data. An "event"? There's the worm in the apple. What is it, who decides, and... is that one of those things that companies may change without notice? Sounds elastic to me.
I hope like hell my dads 89 suburban doesn’t rat me out for de garbaging it today. Now it’s carbureted and it runs better than it ever has 😅
ENABLING AND DISABLING THE MODEM on my 2024 Ford F-150
1. Press Settings on the touchscreen.
2. Press Connectivity.
3. Press Connected Vehicle Features.
4. Switch vehicle connectivity on or off.
Think about a rental car, don't connect your phone to it. My 15 Mustang asks me if I want to download contacts, I dont.
Greg is great. I allmost shit my pants noticing first time my Phone is spying me, now i allmost used to it. I am 53. So this is scary.
No end, all about money.
🔔😎🇺🇲
I'll take crank windows and a stick shift.
Let me check my 1963 for "the box".
02 panther.
Face it. DV has zero warranty.
I don’t think my 65 Plymouth is going to rat me out…. New cars suck!
“Black boxes” are one of the reasons I’m still driving an ‘04 model car.
Andy the privacy issue involves more than just OBD invasion. My big name insurance company has a data logging device with remote download capabilities they are “suggesting” I let them install on my vehicles.
Of course it’s free and its alleged purpose is to monitor fuel consumption so they can suggest ways to improve fuel efficiency. Anybody that believes such nonsense is an idiot and shouldn’t be allowed to drive a car based on their stupidity !
I always respect the safety of others and drive accordingly. But when conditions permit, I fully utilize all of the performance my car has. How often and how long I go full throttle is nobody’s business. I didn’t use names to avoid stepping on toes and possibly causing you any problems from the powers that monitor every word of text ✌🏻.
Well said!
I NEVER allow my phone to connect to ANY car
Not my 04 grand Cherokee lol 😂
If it has not got a carb or two on it, it is too far down the tech road. I have a right to change my idle speed!
Exactly!!
I Heard there was a speed control to slow you down. And if you drive erratic it shuts down as if you were drunk have you heard anything like that
Greg talks about it in his video!
Andy
Andy - Casper - Crown Vic - and the Gangster Lincoln Town Car Cartier cannot spy on us:)
Champagne Gold Cartier - she blew the heater hose nipple on the intake.
I was only doing a 100mph pass…:)
Now she needs and intake
My car is thankfully mostly analog 2009 Cobalt
Yeah next car will definitely not be newer than 2009
It's in there
Tin foil on the antenna works wonders . My 73 turbo pinto no data.
I hope my 2005 Mustang GT doesn't have any of this stuff. It's probably illegal to disable that stuff. It does have these two things in the overhead console behind the map lights, which could be cameras I guess - they're not lights.
Suddenly my Mass Air converted '88 GT isn't so scary...
Maybe she will have a 7.4 Godzilla someday.
The Cartier
We've been spied on every since the original OBD's were installed in vehicles. Which is why I will always own at least one older vehicle that has no "computer" or GPS in it
The older computers I don't believe have the ability to report data.. that began around 2007-8 I believe
I will never own a vehicle past the year 1980.
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage
Crash box started in 2005:
speed
brake input
Steering input
Seat belt
Airbag deployment
etc
Air bag data recorders have been used in many court cases in accidents involving criminal charges. This was the first instance I heard of your vehicle data being used. OBD2 in ‘96 had a computer for the airbag under my drivers seat of my ‘96 Safari
I believe it has an 8 second memory of vehicle parameters before deployment. Similar to an airplane voice and data recorder. Ever since vehicles have been equipped with internet connections, what can be retrieved has changed exponentially.
People now want over the air updates for their cars so they stay “current”.
This will become worse with self driving because passengers will all be on their phones in the car spewing data.@@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@hotrodray6802 good to know.. I thought it was around '07
I'm thinking that fancy distributor you have on Casper may, well it might just cut your truck off... just saying 😮
😂😂
Andy
Insurance companies are using that data to help determine rates, and what YOU pay for how YOU drive.
I wonder what happens if you tape over the cameras ? Does the on board computer know this and not allow the car to be driven ?
Going forward Auto manufacturers need to down on technology
My 07 Silverado speed limiter is controlled by can bus according to the tune, aka on star. they have been doing this a long time
Goes to show you the extent of "the matrix", even if you have an old school vehicle, you will have a cell fone on you and even Radio Frequency activated chips in your wallet...you can be tracked from communication towers or by any other form of getting your gps location at any given moment...
Just leave the phone at home. Survived without them before. It is not the end of the world, not to have one. Cheers. Remember, your thoughts are still your own.
@@MsKatjie correction, leave the fone and wallet at home, all those chips in cards are radio frequency activated
Rev 13:16 was not written by accident.
I think part of it is the car manufacturers are protecting themselves in a lawsuit if they find the driver did something to cause an accident. Same for the insurance companies. They can deny any liability because the driver made a mistake, so the burden is on the driver. And I'm sure Big Brother (US Gubmint) can use it for law enforcement. Sometimes that might be good if someone steals your car and they can theoretically track it and find the scumbag. Ah ha! You were going 1 MPH over the posted speed. It's all your fault.
As a man that builds everything I drive im not to concerned
I would really like to know what year this started collecting everything. I’m willing to trade down to an older truck to get away from this collection era.
Just an idea, iff'n y'all gots money to burn. My specialty car insurance guy told me a couple years back that if I put a 60's engine in my current Daily '06 Crown Vic, they would classify it as a hot rod, insure it, and thusly it gets exempted from emission testing here in Aridzona. So, in theory, I could buy, say, a new Dark Horse, gut all the new-fangled crap and electronics out (and sell it all), stuff a Cobra Jet in, and be able to drive it around that way. Best of both, I guess. Sometimes you just have to be diabolical.
Why do think the entertainment system is also know as infotainment system? Food for thought. Old school vehicles is no snitch. The less electronics you have in a vehicle the less is known about you. Keep that in mind.
Man.. I can look something up on Google.. then next thing you know it's popping up on adds... go figure!
I just bought a brand new f150.. picking it up next weekend.. literally the first thing I was going to do was link my phone to it for pandora for the trip back home in the truck.. NOT NOW!
Exactly... I don't know why Carburators keep showing up in my feed.. 😆😆
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage😂😂😂😂😂 I hear ya Andy.. I edited the post..look above
@@19jody72 wow. I hear ya! Check out the comments I just pinned.
Soon they will outlaw cars without a black box and the roadway will detect if a box is present.
The sad thing is people will just complie with it. Just how they complied with emissions codes turning off their a/c.
You are probably right...
Andy
@@MrSwinger1 I do it all the time. I don't own a smartphone I don't believe a single word that comes from any politician and I live happily.
So true. Whatever they say, do the opposite. it is almost that simple. Live externally, not off the NET. fix an old car, whilst tuning a carb.@@The0utmode
What I would like to know is who authorized any of this to start this invasion of privacy.
Aren't we supposed to have laws against this?
It was maybe two decades ago certain government actors tipped their hand on this: they wanted active rfid tech. If I recall, the list included telemetry [speed & direction], along with vin number and maybe one or two other bits of data. But that needed setup of fixed scanners or all new radar gun tech for police. Today, you have onstar [or whatever], using gps driven data that is capable of listening/gathering/broadcasting just about anything with zero indications just like a number of so called "smart" phones. Remember: anything that is a communications device gets some kind of FCC derived unique number chipped internally.
Only ford vehicles that report back to ford are ones that have over the air updates (started around 2019+) Easy fix pull TCU fuse.
On the insurance scam firm track? Recently, the main fly by night insurance scam firm, BC/BS got caught selling policy holder data. BC/BS was required to alert policy holders that BC/BS had illegally sold policy holder data.
Am certain the car makers collect & sell data as much as possible...
If your car is connected to your wifi, and the vehicle is off. Is it possible, that it is still collecting data about you. While you are in your house, doing whatever? I believe so.