When Charles was early working on this, he had me up to the studio. I was digging for advice for a horror comic I was messing with. Seeing these original pages blew my mind, these inks. I had no idea it was even going to be color. With this color style, I love seeing the aesthetic thread connecting Burns with his contemporaries like Clowes and Ware. Also, a TinTin parody acid fever dream is right up my alley.
I love all three volumes of this story. (Got them as they came out but didn’t read until I had all three.) His transitions from the “real” to the “surreal” are beautifully handled, and they get more heartbreaking as the story unfolds. Love the comments you’re both making about his color technique - definitely adding to my appreciation/understanding. (I’m not an artist, just a reader.)
I first saw Burns in Heavy Metal, then Raw magazine. Then I met a girl who knew who he was, and had Hardboiled, a whole book of his work! We are still together 30 years later (the girl that is) (and the book)
Have that first volume of the trilogy since its release. Kind of forgot about it until recently and currently tracking down the next two volumes to read the whole thing in one sitting. Great to see Cartoonist Kayfabe tackle this one! PS: I had my first Pop-Tarts at 32 aha
Better later than ever! The first clue you should have mentioned was the overall appearance of the trilogy his heavily inspired on Tintin. Even some scenes are almost identical to the scenes on the Tintin álbuns. For instance, the wall with hole, is from the Red Rackham's Treasure. Next, you should do a CB career overall!
I loved them both. Black Hole has that Cronenberg, body horror vibe, and velvet glove leans into the more David Lynch surrealist noir. Both of which I love.
accurate. Velvet Glove was largely improvised, as an experiment, but his later stories are more considered and well written, and less surreal. Burns is a more developed writer of surrealist fiction that is more polished and with a coherent narrative. Burns is not so much stream of consciousness, as Clowes was doing with Velvet Glove.
I dunno. There's a super short dream-logic type story in Clowes' Caricature collection called "The Gold Mommy" which I still think about even 20 years after I read it. It's not particularly disturbing or anything, it just taps into that weird dream thing I've had where things can be quirky and funny one moment and then it veers into full paranoia in the next.
I should probably track down Big Baby at some point. I remember being blown away by the art when I saw it on Comic Book Confidential, but I never really got around to reading it.
I love BLACK HOLE, and when I saw this, I picked it up immediately. I did enjoy this first volume largely for the visuals, appreciated the story pieces, and grabbed the LAST LOOK collection soon after. Burns is titanic, really. I love the blend of old school horror comics, dream logic and surrealism, the mundane, romance comics, etc.
No complaint because you guys are awesome but the edits and cuts are a bit jarring on this video. Probably because you cut stuff I wanted you to expand on. Great video nonetheless!
You guys are too good for Pop Tarts?! Pop Tarts are the best 200 empty calories you guys will ever eat. Nobody is too old for Pop Tarts! LOL I bet you're too mature for Captain Crunch too?! Don't even get me started on Froot Loops.
The cover is referencing the Tin Tin Book 'The Shooting Star'.
When Charles was early working on this, he had me up to the studio. I was digging for advice for a horror comic I was messing with. Seeing these original pages blew my mind, these inks. I had no idea it was even going to be color. With this color style, I love seeing the aesthetic thread connecting Burns with his contemporaries like Clowes and Ware. Also, a TinTin parody acid fever dream is right up my alley.
I love all three volumes of this story. (Got them as they came out but didn’t read until I had all three.) His transitions from the “real” to the “surreal” are beautifully handled, and they get more heartbreaking as the story unfolds. Love the comments you’re both making about his color technique - definitely adding to my appreciation/understanding. (I’m not an artist, just a reader.)
I first saw Burns in Heavy Metal, then Raw magazine. Then I met a girl who knew who he was, and had Hardboiled, a whole book of his work! We are still together 30 years later (the girl that is) (and the book)
Burns also reworked some of the story into "Johnny 23", a limited edition book published by Le Dernier Cri
Have that first volume of the trilogy since its release.
Kind of forgot about it until recently and currently tracking down the next two volumes to read the whole thing in one sitting.
Great to see Cartoonist Kayfabe tackle this one!
PS: I had my first Pop-Tarts at 32 aha
I really enjoyed this series as it was coming out, need to give it a re-read
Just bought this book a couple of days ago. You guys have tremendous timing!
Better later than ever! The first clue you should have mentioned was the overall appearance of the trilogy his heavily inspired on Tintin. Even some scenes are almost identical to the scenes on the Tintin álbuns. For instance, the wall with hole, is from the Red Rackham's Treasure.
Next, you should do a CB career overall!
The cover suggests a Tiintin cover as well with the mushroom in The Shooting Star
I like Clowes but Burns does this weird surrealism type story so much better. Black Hole was way more satisfying than Velvet Glove.
I liked them both!
I loved them both. Black Hole has that Cronenberg, body horror vibe, and velvet glove leans into the more David Lynch surrealist noir. Both of which I love.
accurate. Velvet Glove was largely improvised, as an experiment, but his later stories are more considered and well written, and less surreal. Burns is a more developed writer of surrealist fiction that is more polished and with a coherent narrative. Burns is not so much stream of consciousness, as Clowes was doing with Velvet Glove.
I dunno. There's a super short dream-logic type story in Clowes' Caricature collection called "The Gold Mommy" which I still think about even 20 years after I read it. It's not particularly disturbing or anything, it just taps into that weird dream thing I've had where things can be quirky and funny one moment and then it veers into full paranoia in the next.
I should probably track down Big Baby at some point. I remember being blown away by the art when I saw it on Comic Book Confidential, but I never really got around to reading it.
Vortex is the ending of this story, a must
I love BLACK HOLE, and when I saw this, I picked it up immediately. I did enjoy this first volume largely for the visuals, appreciated the story pieces, and grabbed the LAST LOOK collection soon after. Burns is titanic, really. I love the blend of old school horror comics, dream logic and surrealism, the mundane, romance comics, etc.
Black Hole was serialized, it is a different type of reading experience when compared to picking up and reading a collected edition.
everything from burns is worth it
Very important clarification: Ed didn't mean Jeff Goldblum in Death Wish 4 (he was on the first one) but Lawrence Fishburne in Death Wish 2.
Tintin vibes
Yep. It’s worth it. If it’s Charles Burns. It’s worth. No question.
Only artist resembling Burnes style is Dan Clowes… would like an episode on him and comparison (who was first)
Oh you even have interview with him! 😂 gonna checkkk
No way Clowes resembles Charles Burns! If you want a similar artist, check it out Mezzo, a french artist with a bad ass style
No complaint because you guys are awesome but the edits and cuts are a bit jarring on this video. Probably because you cut stuff I wanted you to expand on. Great video nonetheless!
Totally worth it! ^^
Amazing..!
"pretentious" ???
I thought his B&W stuff looks better.
You guys are too good for Pop Tarts?! Pop Tarts are the best 200 empty calories you guys will ever eat. Nobody is too old for Pop Tarts! LOL I bet you're too mature for Captain Crunch too?! Don't even get me started on Froot Loops.
I thought the whole point of a simplified art styling is for increased volume of work. What’s this guy’s excuse?
I like it! It´s not a masterpiece, but ok
Clowes and Burns - sorta look alike as well! ua-cam.com/video/60dSEN1RIbE/v-deo.html