Inside a cryonics facility preserving terminally-ill people (and pets) to wake up in the future
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- In Scottsdale, Arizona, there are tanks filled with liquid nitrogen are the bodies and heads of 199 humans who opted to be cryopreserved (some along with their pets) with the hopes of being revived in the future.
Many of the patients - as Alcor Life Extension Foundation calls them - are people who were terminally ill with cancer, ALS or other diseases with no cure in the present day.
"So they're not really dead, they're just legally dead... It puts dying on a pause and lets you go into the future where we have greater capabilities to reverse that and bring you back to life," Alcor’s former CEO, Max More said while giving a tour of the facility.
It costs a minimum of $200,000 to freeze a body and $80,000 for the brain alone.
But there are skeptics in the medical world, where the idea of cryonics is far-fetched. "I think this notion of freezing ourselves into the future is pretty science fiction and it's naive," Arthur Caplan, professor of bioethics at NYU said in an interview.
"It's almost like what you'd be thinking about in a college dormitory discussion, if I could just freeze myself and then defrost myself kind of like a bag of peas and wind up way in the future, wouldn't that be cool?"
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"they re not live or dead" few seconds later explains "we have to wait until the patient has been declared legally dead"
"Legally dead" you wrote right.... "Legally"
so they think that if they make the body alive again, it will just have consciousness again. So it like a long sleep. if that's the case i see it working if not, their consciousness is gone and its just a live body. their understanding on consciousness may be the only barrier here.
Hahahaha. This is a scam. These are dead bodies frozen like a mammoth under ice. Preserved but soulless.
@@Jqzd3000not quite. You see mammoths were frozen in a different way. A way that causes damage to cells by ice crystal formation. In cryogenic freezing they use a special solution (an anti ice crystal freeze) their bodies are in fact still viable and intact. Their cells are just not dividing and in a sort of suspended animation. They theoretically can be brought back.
They have already cryogenically frozen organs and transplanted them into other bodies after thawing them and they functioned perfectly fine at 100% capacity. The brain is a different type of organ however. We don’t know how the vitrification fluid will affect it since it’s main function is to prevent ice crystal formation but not necessarily protect brain cells and neurons. Based on what I’ve learned this is totally feasible and legitimately possible to revive these people at some point in the future
2:01” We going to stop patient from returning to consciousness…” Lol
If 250k is a small amount of money for you why not? It might not work but cremation and burial certainly are not reversible, this? maybe.
@DucknCoverinbut If I’m last one standing in doing this!
i will rather rest where my forefathers lay
Probably I guess it's better then nothing then again we don't what will happen on the future...
@DucknCoverin That is not true. Over the years, the definition of death has changed quite often. There was a time that we did not know how to restart a heart....or do so many other things. Now when a person dies, they often can be revived. The idea they are talking about here is to revive a person way into the future...kind of like taking an ambulance into a time when a terminal disease now can be cured....cured in the future.
Well for some it'll never be the same life
All our friends gone the town we grew up gone and worse our children gone many don't want to live that life not even the super rich
The sandwich bags of ice really convinced me this is state of the art technology
Being a doctor in the year 2400: Oh yeah sure, lets revive this random frozen dog
Being a doctor in 1899: sorry sir you have tuberculosis. Nothing we can do about it.
It’s not about the dog, it’s about the scientific discovery
@@Malally2 Agreed, I myself decided to provide scientific subjects for future generations and froze some leftover sausages from dinner. I am convinced that scientists of the future will have the time, energy and money to reconstruct the animal that the sausage was made from. Afterall thats the future we all imagine, right?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
But why not? There are people now trying to clone Mammoths from frozen Mammoth remains. I am quite sure people in the future would be fascinated to bring back people from our era.
The odds are so slim that if they ever manage to bring one of them back it would really be an ice-olated incident.
thats cold
Pretty cool idea tho
Slim U say? THINK AGAN**** very likely they will comeback, but the issue might be if you keep your memories intact. That's the real question.
@@grzyb11 Super cool, like way too cool.
@@GeraldPUR Never. It'll be a cold day in hail before that ever happens!
They’re dead bro, that’s the biggest waste of electricity I’ve ever seen
Why are you making stuff up? You don't know the answers
😂
It’s the highest form of luxury, to live again possibly in the future?
Hahahahaha
This is no different than a mammoth frozen under ice. It will be a better business model to have a frozen cemetery in the North Pole. Death is nature best invention.
Expectations: Freeze yourself and wake up in a futuristic society.
Result: Society collapses and you get eaten like a microwave TV diner.
🤦♂️
I never laughed so hard from an internet post in my life.
That's basically the plot of fallout 4.
Minus getting eaten, at least in the beginning lol
How can please
exactly ww3 could break out or even a rock will hit earth.
I seen this on the simpsons when that old guy got stuck in the grocery store freezers and woke up and found moon pies lol
When are they going to show someone who has been revived? Many years have passed since cryogenics has been perfected, let’s see some results.
I don't want to see them! lol
Shhh! Results are anathema to the grift.
Current technology is not strong enough to revive people; the estimated timeline is 50-100 years. By then, technology will be strong enough to revive cryonic patients.
Results, yeah right.
They will come back as robots. Their brain will be transplanted into a robot like Cain from Robocop
They have revived "simple animals" such as certain amphibians and fish that this technology is actually based on. Various types of frogs and toads, as well as lungfish and other animals will dig a hole in clay (which helps with cooling the body evenly) in the winter and literally freeze solid, in some cases for years, until the environment is right for them once again to emerge. There has also been success with small mammals such as shrews and mice, though cell damage is a common challenge for mammals in particular.
I personally don't think this is a viable method of preservation. Not because we are incapable of eventually working out the science, or even the ethical and moral issues. I think this won't be viable due to the risks of reintroducing disease, viral and bacterial contaminations that could have been "cured" or eliminated. It would be like unfreezing someone from the middle ages. You certainly would run the risk of reintroducing the plague or various other long gone bacteria that we have little to no defence from.
The fish that they have revived are known for surviving in cold waters...In other words it appears that they are dead, but are not actually dead. The big issue with cryonics is that they can't "unfreeze" the body slowly enough to prevent cells/tissues from literally exploding as they "unthaw". So, this is garbage science and the deceased are just being used a guinea pigs.
haha like Fry from Futurama with his common cold 😂
@@hatersbeware5563 Ha ha ha, yes, exactly like that! 🤣
We will always have them around. The viruses will never disappear.
But if the disease is hundreds of years old surely humanity as a species would have built up some kind of resistance to it?
Really disturbing report.
Futurama is occuring slowing they won't be waking till the year 3000
I remember reading about a company where they opened one and the body was just a large blob on the ground. Who knows if this technogloy works? How come others arent doing it 🤔
The thing is, even if it was possible to bring them back to life (a very big if), it would be an unpleasant experience. They would suddenly find themselves the subjects of a very loud and bright future tv show called Defrosted: Live. They would be overwhelmed and utterly distressed to find themselves in the future with everything familiar gone. They would be unable to fully process what was happening, partly due to their less than perfect brains after many years in the freezer. There is no good outcome to this. I would expect a high number of cryo-suicides, people unable to cope with the reality of being alive in a terrifying new world. They sign up expecting some kind of immortality, but don’t consider the likely reality of the situation.
Well its a means to an end
How would I be unable to process the future?? We wouldn’t be alone and we would have technology to help with the transition if necessary. Vr to recreate past familiar things
Cool story
@@Th3NoobSlay3r and whose money will these people use to accomplish all of that ?
It really depends on how far in the future we are talking about.
Once cameras leave they turn off everything lol
😂😂😂
No...I visited the facility. They are all quite committed an professional.
@@nealvanderee2642 after you left they turned it off again
@@nealvanderee2642Once your visit was over they turned off everything
The real bet is whether or not this company lasts more than 20 years.
It's been around since 1972
More than 20 years bro, pleas your check profilr cryonic institute company
Fascinating - going to research into this more
Paul, please let me know if you have any questions....as I have researched this topic a good deal, and may be of help to you. It is an amazing idea.
Theoretically if it worked, how do you protect them and future earth from the bacteria, germs, and diseases killing them when they wake up?
You give them vaccine and work them out for few weeks/months
Original consciousness will always reborn fresh new forms because its the perfect law.
Sounds like a intro for a horror movie 🍿
Sounds like an intro for a father to wake up 200 years into the future and embarking on a quest to find his long lost son.
Or matrix the prequel
Fallout 4 is better.
years later when we're gone, someones gonna comment on this thread from a cryo chamber and will say "you still alive?" lol
freaks me out there is a bunch of heads just floating in liquid nitrogen
Well, why is he telling us this? He seems to be in pretty good health. He wouldn’t need to wait for any technology seeing how he’s not termini ill with anything, so why don’t he just crawl inside freeze him and in a couple years bring him back and he can tell us about it .
You dont understand it
Yeah. What could go wrong?
hahaa
Those animals that survive winter and freezing or heat and drought through extended hibernation or suspended animation spent thousands of years adapting to their environment. Their bodies have evolved to survive those conditions unlike ours. Everything in their bodies has undergone a unique evolutionary transformation that made it possible for them to go into that kind of preservation. Humans aren’t built like that. And science can’t make this happen over night.
Birds spent thousands (millions) of years adapting flight. Humans will never fly.
Until the Wright Brothers (and others) figured it out. The idea of an airplane 1000 years ago was probably inconceivable, yet here we are.
Yes, but it is a proof in nature that it can be done....so ultimately, why not for people?
But when they "re-awaken", all their friends, much of their family will have passed, or gotten significantly older. Nothing will be familiar, like a fish out of water. How will they fit in? What will their jobs be? It does seem somewhat macabre.
That's kinda scary because what if these frozen people are actually still concisous and there trapped in there bodies
Can they try reviving one for whos been frozen for a week?
Now that lady's rich she friggn froze her dog imagine the cost Wow
money to freeze lol
Its so sad coz shes delaying her grief rather than working through it in a healthy natural manner like most people do
You're 110% correct physiologically
Damn autocorrect pshycologically
dog owners....
If anyone sees this as anything other than a moonshot then it should be illegal to take their money. If a person has the money and thinks "why not?", then why not?
In the meantime rules are rules. Man has once to die, so they are now ghosts stuck in a dark freezer for decades and maybe centuries without their phones or wifi. They may be the first people ever happy to finally arrive in hell..."Oh, thank God! Some heat! I have been frozen and bored stiff for what seemed like forever!"
the science needs to be brought to the table and to the public. . .
If and when (because life after not garenteed) these patients die, the lawsuit will be massive. . . And if any "waiver" nullifies a case from being formed, this would be the reason for needing more light shed on this whole procedure. . .
Not trying to be pessimistic, however there is very limited knowledge on this topic. . . And any research done is incredibly and exquisitely private. . .
So whats being hidden?
I’ve heard about this for a long time. The neat thing to think about this is waking up in the future at the snap of your fingers.
Think about when you go to sleep at night. You wake up in the morning as if no time has passed at all. It’s so fast, like snapping your fingers. picture this. You die, get frozen, and then 10 million long slow years pass by on earth.. then, they figure it out! You are thawed and cured. When you awake, it’s like no time has passed at all. Just like a nights sleep.
That’s what is attractive to me. It’s not like you gotta wait for this to happen anyways. For you, from the time you die, to being unthawed and cured will be as fast as snapping your fingers. No matter if it’s 100 years or 1 billion years.
This is like a “what if” or “why not” scenario for me. If I have the money, what do I have to lose? Either get buried or burnt for 0% chance to come back alive on earth.
Or get frozen on the off 0.00000001% chance it works. 0% or 0.000000001 % chance with no risk whatsoever. I’ll take them odds and Awake to an unimaginable unfathomable future. Why the hell not do it. 🤷♂️
Then again, hopefully just consciousness lives on. In which case, who cares. Lol. Absent from the body, present with the Lord. What would God care we did with our bodies after we have died. He’s concerned with what we do while we are alive.
Love this comment and approach.
The lady at the end of the video says they will meet up with their friends again, after 100 years in a tank you're going to meet up with friends and family again?
my question is if these brains can be placed in robots like robocop? if so that would be cool
The pain losing.a child ...unberable but intme becomes more bearable take this option during the unberable stage.
live that stage for a lifetime
Very great company researched it a lot and it's interesting of what they're doing
and pizzaman comes..
Lets make a prank call to a pizza place in new york and wait for a pizza delivery boy to arrive, freeze, and wake up in 2999
but have they ever reanimated anyone ???
Of course they did we just aren’t privy to that information
@@IsisSummerRain Unlikely. If they did, they should announce it since that will get them infinite amounts of business instead of just remaining borderline scam with no proof it even works.
@@Talinthis nope. Government and military applications could be more lucrative than selling this to the public. I bet they have reanimated and they know the result.
They have revived "simple animals" such as certain amphibians and fish that this technology is actually based on. Various types of frogs and toads, as well as lungfish and others. These animals will dig a hole in clay (which helps with cooling the body evenly) in the winter and literally freeze solid, in some cases for years, until the environment is right from them once again to emerge. There has also been success with small mammals such as shrews and mice, though cell damage is a common challenge for mammals in particular.
I personally don't think this is a viable method of preservation. Not because we are incapable of eventually working out the science, or even the ethical and moral issues. I think this won't be viable due to the risks of reintroducing disease, viral and bacterial contaminations that could have been "cured" or eliminated. It would be like unfreezing someone from the middle ages. You certainly would run the risk of reintroducing the plague or various other long gone bacteria that we have little to no defence from.
@@Allan003 i agree, but this dude is selling snake oil
They’re very dead.
You can bring back the body. How will you bring back the soul?
Did anyone ever came back from this state?
Can I send my self there how I do that
Why are they keeping dead bodies frozen? That’s all they are doing
Yea that's what they signed up for obviously
Woah this would be so cool if they really do figure cryogenics out and these humans wake up decades from now, and it’ll be like they’ve been asleep for 10 minutes, 80 years have gone by in our time as non frozen humans, I think that is very exciting. I think that’s how it works I’m no expert I’m just thinking of movies.
We know by your words your no expert
@@methatlovescats3602 We know by you're word's you're no expert in spelling.
Demolition man
I saw brief cryo frezze of a dog once Mutt I Did Black White mixed while back true and lossed the brief pics I had to but shout out to animal insider with alcor
the vid. Science based of course from what you know.
@@neko4686 Not to be mean but neither are you because you also used the wrong one.
The science is in on this. No, humans cannot survive this.
For now
They can't stop ice crystal formation on the microscope level yet. All those bodies are useless destroyed corpses
Just a scam and they prey on people’s fear of death.
No, a way to solve death. It might not work, but we need to figure it out eventually.
Wrong, they brought back a rabbit, so shut up❤
This would be a really effective cover for an illicit black market organ trade.
How would they know?
Why are you making stuff up? You don't know the answers
Imagine being put in the freeze in the seventies to be woken up today. I bet it would be a nightmare
Soooooo what happens if the company goes bankrupt?
It's good. I don't think its a big deal for future technology to accomplish what is needed to bring those back to life. As he said that's why this company exists.
I've heard about this- cost money- no live but not dead- hmm
Cool but most of us can't afford that
No ment for the serfs! Only the elites are to survive!
You can afford it if you have a universal life insurance policy in hand
Shouldn’t this be done before death technically?
Why don't they just unfreeze or unvetrify someone to showcase that it's viable
Well because it’s not and it’s kind of a scam
@@Aiophgy Why are you making stuff up? You don't know the answers
Do you know what freezer burn is...
The patients are vitrified, not frozen. Freezer burn doesn't apply in this case.
@@AA-xc6uq OH WHATEVER LMFAO THEYRE DEAD & ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED
I may create a game where its basically about a 20yr old Woman getting put into Cryostasis to see what the future would bring... and Due to the Space agency finding a Planet which has a plant that when turned into a formula, its special Proprities are powerful enough to Ressurect & Cure Frozen Patients, but there's a catch... it has a 1/10'000 chance to Transform the Patient into a Mindless Alien beast who cannot be destroyed by normal means... Luckily for the 20yr old girl who's name is Yvonne Artwayne, Woke up with no complications with the only one being that her hands can Morph into Weapons & stuff, and thats also the only way to Take on the Alien Beasts who are referred to as the Thawed Ones.
CRYO-WAKE would be a neat title too for the game. Also it took about 50 years and Yvonne went in the cryo machine in the year 2023. So it would be 2073 i think, i'll fix it later on if im wrong, i'll check rn...
(Edit: im not changing the year, i was right, and how did Yvonne get into Cryostasis, well she got Terminally ill with some kind of Cancer, so she was put into the Cryonic Chamber to be frozen in time for 50 years, Luckily, the plant which is named Revirala Both cured her Cancer & Revived her with no Serious Complications, she gets a Cool new ability along for the ride, Bio-Arms, Heck the Person who welcomes her back is a Alien from the same planet the Revirala is from who are Spheri.)
You should up fallout 4. Main character you create and control spent 200 years in cryo and woke up to a world ravaged by nuclear war.
@@HolzHause perhaps i shall! & i might make it essentially Future Blasphomous.
Are they standing up?
Wouldn't matter lol picture an ice cube
They're actually upside down. Because in case of defrost, this way the brain would be the most protected. I heard about it on another interview some time ago.
Wow, I wish I could do that, when they say "& heads" do they mean just the head or the full body?
is this just for the legally dead? why? is it because they're about to die anyway? what if I just wanna preserve myself for 100years, I'm healthy and has no medical condition. is there a guarantee I'll get to see 2122?
It's for the legally dead, because going through the procedure is just a last ditch effort to save one from dying. Whether it works or not who knows? There's good evidence that implies it will eventually work, but you don't want to go into a cryo tank unless you absolutely have to. The freezing itself is alone lethal and irreversible by modern medical technology (on something as large as a human or even a human head, it's currently reversible on things like embryos and small mammal organs such as rabbit kidneys).
Yikes😵😲😱This Is Creepy There Souls Never Left There Bodies Because They Never Died Technology Is Crazy....😲🤢😱
Why are you making stuff up? You don't know the answers
Whe... Where am I ? - Austin Powers
So I’m just curious.. have they ever actually revived a person from this yet? Like a healthy person get frozen wait a month and then thawed out???
No, it's currently not possible to recover a person from "suspension" yet.
Nope because it won't work
Where you think joe Biden came from
They will never because the soul has left the body unless maybe you do this before they die. Even then who knows what the soul will do.
Before I give them my money, let me see if the dead will come back to life. I'm not going to believe if nothing is proven.
not possible.
People also thought flight was impossible in 1900, getting to the moon was impossible in 1960, and using RNA for vaccines was impossible in 2019. All of those people have been proven wrong.
Wrong, they brought back a rabbit, so shut up❤
Why do they use ice cubes? Any other way?
Wouldnt they need their full strenght to be able to wake up, these people were very sick when they died.
What a waste of resources.
The only other option is to die, unfortunately. Cryonics at least gives people a fighting chance, if future technology is advanced enough to regenerate them.
Wrong, they brought back a rabbit, so shut up❤
This is such a scam....they will never bring you back
Why are you making stuff up? You don't know the answers
@Cherished Cat Lover Why are you making stuff up? You don't know the answers
Isn't it somewhat cruel a send a 3 year old girl by her self into the future? Nobody to look after her, nobody she recognizes...
I saw a video where they interview her parents, and they are planning to do also the cryonics. I dont remember but they claim Im not sure that they are doctors or scientist themselves and the couple said they have plans to be reunited in the future.
This is ridiculous. You can’t cheat death
People thought the same thing when organ transplants and heart surgery was first invented. Cryonics is an advanced form of medicine, similar to organ transplants and heart surgery.
They're not cheating death. They WILL eventually die. Just not sooner than they needed to.
You can, stop believing in religious things.
"mankind will never fly"
We already cheat death. Ever heard of defibrillators? Those little paddles that restart the heart after you’ve been pronounced clinically dead? Yeah we’ve been doing that a while.
Does Ted Williams brain have information stored in it?
Totally insane, you never bring back life to dead!
Pet Cemetary taught us that evrything will work out just fine!
Never, ever..... 👍🙏
It's an abomination...
said muslim... science will win and ur religion will die and u cant turn it back with ice
@@drdavidstr Hate to break it to you but Christianity ain't big fan of this either. Only a fool would mend in such stuff, live what's left to its fullest and be humble.
i'm so confused... So they have to wait until they legally death? So they died basically? how froze them up will keep them alive in the future???
Can't bring anyone back to live again after gone
Well thats just wrong lol
4:17 the one picture that the guy pointed out was of a little tot and the mother and father were both DOCTORS.
if it is real they are already in the future!
i thought they have no water in the dessert where they get all the ice
Alcor uses liquid nitrogen in the actual tanks; in any case, ice can be transported from elsewhere in thermo-regulated vehicles.
i dont know why it isnt common sense to want to preserve our brains any way we can and at least this way the brain wont decompose and there is an active effort in maintaining the brains health in this process. im a believer in common sense and i think this cryogenic stuff is the best way to preserve our "mind file"
Robobrains, no thanks.
I hate my organic bits, it's why I only have one arm with one finger.
Did he say " Some people's pet's"?
I'd sign to be frozen for a year.. kind of like building a car with without an engine. Fastest car on the planet once the tech catches up. I'll sell it to you cheap.
Freeze yourself for 50-100 years, and you may just find yourself living for hundreds of years due to advanced technology in the future
@@AA-xc6uq maybe more if we can become one with ai later in the future
So how does this company really last a few hundred or a thousand years?
Advanced technology, Advanced science might make them alive but 🙄🙄🙄 when they will be alive they again need to live with their disease😡😡😡 terminally ill.. again need to go through that pain..again need to try to cure that... 😡😡😡 and did u take their consent ? Definitely noone must have taken consent from that little girl 😡😡😡 she needs to relive that pain and without having her parents around 🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
But main point is - if person die bcoz if brain damage or kidney lever failure or bye murder then even if they alive in future how can this freez treatment will cure those failures in body ?
Demolition man this reminds me of
lol why can’t I get Austin Powers out of my head 😂😂😂
If they bring them back to life, will they still use their same ID and birth certificate if it’s 80 years later?
Forsure, it's the same people
Who knows? A century ago, people didn't believe that humans could fly or communicate over long distances. This may sound as improbable as when someone invented the airplane, the CPU, radio frequencies, and aerospace technology.
will they be able to wake up for real for 50 years or more !?
Is this covered by Blue Cross/Blue Shield? 🤔
Lets see them any of the pets back to life
When death occurs, the soul leaves the body, Permanently. So how are they going to bring that soul back.
What happens if you're brought back to life and then get hit by a car?
what science fiction movie did this idea stem from?
Doubt your brain will be fine after this.
If you're dead your dead. The soul has left and cannot be pulled back. It's what separates us from animals. At best the future will be able to implant AI memory into the brain and be able to move the body with some other technology. And even
all this seems pretty far fetched. But we're human, we like to dream big.
Whos Funding this? Thats what I want to know.
What if there's a power outage?
This won’t work unless they get the souls of all those bodies so they can come back to life.
Perhaps this money would be better spent by donating to worthwhile causes, instead of chasing an unknown that might never work, people could use that money to save lives donating to charities like the Against Malaria Foundation, saving thousands of lives. (GiveWell estimates Malaria Consortium’s cost to save the life of a child who would otherwise have died to be US$2,041) Think of how many lives could be saved by donating instead of putting money into Cryonics.
I wonder what dreams they are having and I wonder if one of them has mastered projecting their consciousness.
Where the movies get…And thus upon reanimating becomes the living dead…
What happens to their souls?
'Soul' is just a fancy word for psyche, the neural network of the brain. Preserving that is the entire point of the whole thing.
@@MidnightBreezey Psyche is not neural network ... What happens when you die ? THese people are dead so the lving thing is gone.
@@Bilangumus When you put out a fire, where does the flame go?