WHAT! What is this ignorance, reading in Hafs and Warsh, just a difference in the way of reading or recitation This is the funniest day of my life ignorant Christians hhhhh
@@iTheGeo I advise you to read the book "The last Prophet" by haitham talaat (He has a UA-cam channel criticizing atheism), which contains clear evidence of the correctness of the Islamic religion, in which there is a critique of allegations of atheism, proof of the authenticity of the messengers and prophets, how religions emerged, and the idea of a monotheistic belief.
This is the key problem with the argument from preservation, for preservation has nothing to do with validity. Preservation simply means that it is preserved, it has nothing to do with authorship and sourcing.
I am an Arab Muslim specifically from Tunisia. This is just a difference in the cover of a book we are Muslims do not have a unified cover rule and there is a difference in the method of recitation of the Qur’an(like warsh, hafs and qaloun) , hhhh you made me laugh, my friend, you and others, when you hear about something that you do not take for granted, first check whether it is true or not and search and open your mind
@@mouhamedayoubsamhoud6799 Shabir Ali admitted that they always knew about the different Qurans with different words and meanings and that Muslims are parroting what they've been told. His admission is very similar to Sheikh Yasir Qadhi.
@@mouhamedayoubsamhoud6799 Evidently you haven’t read the various Qurans. S37:12 - Hafs: … YOU wonder; Al-doori: … I wonder…; which is it? Allah wonders? 🤣 S66:12 - Hafs: … his BOOKS: Warsh, Qaloon: his BOOK Which is it? What is written in the umm Al kithab? Book or books? Allah sent 125,000 prophets each with a book. You guys can’t produce evidence of a single book beyond the Bible. Allah was too puny and powerless to preserve the Torah and Gospel from corruption, and yet you believe that Allah is capable of preserving the Quran? Insanity bro! How do you define “perfect preservation”? 🤣💀
Muslims memorise the whole Quran word by word.Quran hsa only one version but bible has many You don't know the facts and with out knowing it you try to assess things. It isn't like yours where some chapters are missing.
Because there are people who memorize the entire Quran - that somehow PROVES that the Quran was revealed by memorization.... Like, what the actual heck? What kind of logic is that? It's so bad..
No it proves that the Quran's preservation is unique and no religious document in history was preserved orally through mass transmission and scriptly through mass copies... So the preservation of the Quran is an established fact!...
@@tahahagar7664 Yeah, absolute rubbish. Preservation through memorization is one of the worst ways for human beings to preserve anything. You're bound to eventually mess up, and change the story... the changes are slight at first, like how people recite things differently, but over time you will have one hadith say Mohammad married Aisha when she was six, and another hadith saying he married Aisha when she was seven.. Why the discrepancy? Because preservation through pure memorization is garbage.
@@IvanSensei88 I can't believe some as ignorant as can spew absolute drivel this confident, its truely amazing. The Quran was not only memorized, it was MASS memorized, and to even immoralize this, it was MASS written down and MASS copied... This is call MASS transmission. Someone can make a mistake, but when you have tens of others who correct it, this is been going on for 1400 years, every mosque, every year, every night, in Ramadan the whole Quran is recited.. We're not talking about Hadith, which is more comparable to the Bible (eventhough hadiths are more preserved and reliable than Bible)
@@abm5707Arbic language is simple, we go from alif (ا) baa(ب)and then you go to the gym (ج), no he just wants to dig out their lies, because all they talk about is there hate to Islam and why muslims are always so excited to be and stay their whole life a muslim. may allah make ur life easier and make you a muslim one day inshllah i pray for my brother or Sister and then u will understand 😂😮
@Muzzamil Hussein Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God is one LORD: Spirit coming out of Allah - he breathed his Spirit into Adam and Mary. Looks like you have two gods. And what is the purpose of breathing his Spirit into Adam and Mary?
WHAT! What is this ignorance, reading in Hafs and Warsh, just a difference in the way of reading or recitation This is the funniest day of my life ignorant Christians hhhhh
he was "running away" because he realised he couldnt make the other understand as he was standing tall in his ignorance, a man standing as proud as that must have a solid foundation to be acting like that, he is clearly not aware of the corruption of the bible, i mean what even in hell. Christians very much lack scientific understanding and being objective to their own faith and therefore their own self, i mean you guys still believe the earth is flat how can one argue with a caveman who believes that when the evidence is infront of his eyes. My friend let me ask you this instead are you aware of the changes made in your bible? there is actual evidence for that, the early christians believed that jesus was not the son of god rather miraculously concieved and was a mere man .
@@islamtruth6994 How is he lying if he's reading directly from the unholy quran? You're following a false religion where you have to lie to keep your pseudo religion standing. Everyone sees the truth of the false doctrines of islam.
@@islamtruth6994 It's a rhetorical question because everyone with eyes to see already know the truth. I'll pray for my Elohim to remove the scales from your eyes in the holy name of Jesus Christ (Yahushua Hammachiac).
Let him who say they memorized the whole Quran is a liar, for none can say they memorized the whole Quran, cause alot has been lost. I wonder who in what Hadith(s) said that?
@@islamtruth6994 are you stupid? It’s clear you haven’t even read Genesis, who are you to mock that which was sent before? Didn’t Muhammad say towards the Torah “I believe in thee and the one who sent thee.”? Now be a good Muslim and believe as your “prophet” has believed.
Research demonstrates that oral transmission and memory are insufficient to transmit verbatim an oral text. The ability to emorise something verbatim exists because of textuality. When you have a written text and that written text becomes the standard, then you have a measure/yardstick to measure everything against.
The Qur'an which was chosen among the 30 as the official text for the whole world, belong to Hafs. Hafs also didn’t speak or write in the Quraishi dialect. He was from Kufa, which is in Iraq, the very place which was despised by both Hudhaifa and Uthman, and whose manuscripts were burned in 652 AD because they were seen as a corrupted dialect. 1) Hafs was unreliable, weak, untrustworthy, and a liar according to scholars and used fabricated chains, so that others avoided him and refused to use him. 2) He was chosen for political purposes (the Ottoman’s preferred him to the others). 3) He was chosen by the Saudi Arabian government and in 1924 the Hafs quran was canonized. One wonders why the Arabian government chose an Iraqi dialect over their own? In 1924, the government-appointed committee in Cairo selected one of these accepted readings-the Hafs ‘an ‘Asim version which dates back to A.D. 745-to use across the Egyptian religious educational system. This translation was soon adopted throughout the rest of the world. A large number of the competing readings were then destroyed by sinking them in the Nile river (The Qur’an and its Biblical Subtext). True story.
How incredibly difficult to remember what was said word to word few minutes ago. In 192 to different Qurans in one language Most Muslims do not understand or speak
1:50 ,,,,please memorize the verse about “5 times adult suckling,” that was supposed to replace “ 10 times adult suckling.” That was eaten by “ a tame sheep.” If the Quran is complete and without textual differences.
If the Quran is preserved: 1 Why did Uthman burn large sections of it? 2 Where is the original ? 3 Why are there over 30 DIFFERENT versions currently in circulation?
the last 2 can be used against Christianity, its mainly the first one that causes HUGE issues. the last 2 can be used against Muslims if they use those argumentations against Christianity
@@entertaininformmedia7836 Go watch Yasir Qadhi “Why did Uthman Burn the Quran”. Dated 2012 According to him they brurned the Qurans due to respect for it then also adds there were mistakes in them and human error was at fault. He then states new copies were sent out from the original to each of the main cities. Yet neither the original nor these copies can be found. Further to that over 30 copies have been sourced and read that still have grammatical errors in them when put up against the Hafs Quran. Where is the preservation in any of that from God?
@@omaryasin7326 No one in Christianity is claiming the Bible or Tanakh is preserved by God . Therein lays the issue for Islam. Whilst we are on the subject of claims and God you should insist any Muslim you encounter go read Exodus 3 and the very important conversation between GOD and Moses within it. 1. God speaks from within a burning bush (He’s in his own creation) 2 God gives Moses his name ( His name is not Allah nor the 98 other names bestowed upon Allah) 3 God reaffirmed that this name is forever and for all Generations ( אֶהְיֶה - Ehyeh -I AM ) From this account of Moses we can state with full confidence that Allah is not the God of Moses. We can therefore dismiss the claim by Islam that the Quran is the preserved word of the God of Moses. It clearly isn’t. Conclusion: God and Moses burned the Quran 2000 years before it was even a mental concept of its author. All Uthman did was set fire to combustible materials and within them any notion what was written was preserved by the GOD of Moses. It’s almost as if God knew what was coming ( He’s God after all ) and put the pointless argument to rest before it even became a conversation right here on UA-cam. Now Islam can keep attempting to resurrect the argument but as we know only God can resurrect the truth. If it’s truth in the vernacular of God that Muslims seek then tell them to come to Jesus. For the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. That word is eternal just like the source. The God of Moses. אֶהְיֶה 🙏🏼✝️🙏🏼
When all else fails, argue from authority "You know better than me? But I'm Arab." Yes, sir, you are... and fortunately for us none Arabic speakers you gave us the benefit of explaining exactly why the Warsh verse is erroneous.
Avery, discussion on the differences between the two qur'ans has no point unless you present the premise first. 'Muslims say the the qur'an is exactly the same today as it was in Muhamed's time...so start first by confirming this with them. Hear him clearly admitting this. (Let him hear himself admitting this before you present the evidence). "May I show you some differences?" Hatun and Jay had many A4 laminated sheets showing these differences. 2 columns... Hafs on one side Wersh on the other. The Arabic paragraph underneath with the GENUINE English translation below. So no fiddling with the books. I am sure Hatun would email copies to you if you contacted. her. Since Hatun's discovery of there being many Arabic qur'ans, shocked muslims have been coming up with all sorts of explanations (dialectical etc) for for this, but I think most have accepted this now. That muslim was wound up tighter than a rubber band (verbal diarreah). I really enjoy watching your calm, friendly, respectful, gentle way. They are more prepared to listen to you, as they feel respected. Keep it up.
We've always known about the dialect differences. You people are simply ignorant . Bring your best scholars and we'll bring ours, Christianity looses every time. Guaranteed.
As a Christian born and raised and spent most of my adulthood in the middle east with 98% Muslim neighborhood and studied quran by islamic government force, I realized Islam as developed from from late 9th century to 13th century had to go to it's transitions and survival modes. The Hafs version of quran I must say is closest to the events that happened in the 7th century while Mohammad was still alive 300 years after his death and the Warsh quran mostly focused to muslims from the far lands, like Egypt, Africa and Persia.
@@alonzoharris9049 Guess which quran Hafs or Warsh is this>>>> I heard the Messenger of Allah say: "This Quran was revealed with sorrow, so when you recite it, then weep. If you cannot weep then PRETEND to weep, and make your voice melodious in reciting it. WHOEVER does not make his voice melodious, he is not one of us". Is this allah saying or your false rasul making up his own revelation forcing and also threatening (if you don't do whatever i say, you are not one of us) to gullible people. Hypocrites from the beginning till now. Matthew 6:5 'And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their rewards.
@@alonzoharris9049 "You made your story up of raising up in a muslims country. You can't even tell us the name of the country. 😂" Abbas. If I would have ever cared what you and people like you think and did to my religion, my people and my country I wouldn't be alive today and expose your cult. Why you wanna know what muslim country I was raised, to judge the government and the people? to insult your muslim brothers and sisters? Astaghfirullah! We all know none of your rasul's companions were killed by none- muslims, they all killed each other, not for allah and his rasul, but for power and wealth. Abbas, 1400 years, Isn't enough you muslims blaming none-muslims for your fails? This video is not about me, it's about Islam and Its many qurans, and you denying and ignoring the facts, that's why you don't wanna talk about them.
Nothing but ❤️ brothers you guys are awesome keep preaching the truth about Islam. How many Muslims around the world out of the over 1 billion Muslims that there are understand Arabic? Just cuz I recite something in a German doesn't mean that I understand German. Even cockatoos can memorize stuff but that doesn't mean that they know what it is hello 😳🤔.
So hating other religions is the truth 😂? What a truthful preacher, i guess the Muslim 1 is preaching not yo preacher ,yo preacher is just hating 😮 , "Mohammed is not a prophet"? 😅 i mean Jesus is a prophet and so is Mohammed sallallahu Calayhi wa sallam❤❤
@@Crsabca7 Jesus gives us Relationship not religion. God loved his creation, he came in flesh , giving us his son Jesus, he was God in human form, he died for all humanity, forgiving all the sin of the world and conquered death. Jesus gives eternal life and gives all who believe in him eternal in heaven. And as we live in this world with the same spirit Jesus gives ( the Holy Spirit ) He is with us , guides, helps and leads us. I’ll stick with Jesus, Mohamed does nothing for you except give you a false religion with a bunch of rules. No hope no love! No freedom.
This comment shows your ignorance, we believe in jesus and follow him more than you, our woman are covered like Mary, jesus didn't drink or eat swine... Xmas Easter all fabricated and exaggerated holiday seasons for commercial consumers... go back to the correct teaching of Jesus.
The 10 commandments aren’t even in the Quran. What’s the quaran’s solution for sin? The black stone? So then the black stone has Devine abilities to take away sin? I thought only God can forgive sins.Islam is the worst and most foolish book and I struggle to understand y ppl believe this nonsense
@@GodLogicApologetics tag teaming with Anthony makes you look very dumb. You associate with Santa Claus, very dumb Anthony, and Sham Poo. Still waiting for your answer. Who wrote Genesis? It claims fruit trees existed before the sun. You know it's wrong.
best comment Quran is "true" QURAN is AHAD (only in ayah 112 :1 does that mean one) but I prefer THIS ONE (ahad) over anyone 🤣🤣 GREAT stream Avery God Bless
Islam is a cult, Quran is paraphrased from Bible, Torah and pre-Islamic poets, in fact, Mohammed used poetry and rhymed prose as two methods of conviction for the language of the Quran. Every attempt was made to distinguish Quran revelation as Divine and from God, but history tells of another story. Poets (Sha'ir) of the time filled the roles of Historians, soothsayers and propagandist. They represented their own tribal traditions and glorified the Arabian Peninsula. Their poetry had the ability to stir up emotions, lead people up to battle and denounce a person. Apprentices were called "Rawi" (narrators) whose job was to learn the poems by heart and to recite them with explanations in a beautiful/dramatic voice they would also often have to mention the chain (Isnad) of people from who they learnt the poem. This tradition was later adopted by the "Huffaz" (Memorizers) or "Qurra" (Reciters) for their part in Quran preservation. The following Poets are documented as pre-Islamic: Imrail Qays, Tarafa Bin Al Abd, Zuhyur Bin Sulma, Labid Bin Rabia, Amr Bin Kulthuum, Antara Bin Shaddad, Al-Hitara Bin Hilliza, Al-A'shaa Maymuun, Ubaid Bin Al-Abras. Here you can see how Mohmmed praises pre-Islamic poets: Abu Huraira said: “As the Prophet said (Allah bless him and give him peace): ‘The most poetic saying spoken by the Arabs is the saying of Labid “Everything but Allah is surely futile!'” حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ حُجْرٍ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا شَرِيكٌ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الْمَلِكِ بْنِ عُمَيْرٍ، عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم، قَالَ: أَشْعَرُ كَلِمَةٍ تَكَلَّمَتْ بِهَا الْعَرَبُ كَلِمَةُ لَبِيدٍ: أَلا كُلُّ شَيْءٍ مَا خَلا اللَّهَ بَاطِلٌ. Grade: Sahih (Zubair `Aliza'i) Reference : Ash-Shama'il Al-Muhammadiyah 247 In-book reference : Book 36, Hadith 7 Abu Huraira reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: The truest word which the poet stated is the word of Labid "Behold! apart from Allah everything is vain." وَحَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، أَخْبَرَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ زَكَرِيَّاءَ، عَنْ إِسْرَائِيلَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الْمَلِكِ، بْنِ عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ، يَقُولُ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ كَلِمَةٍ قَالَهَا شَاعِرٌ كَلِمَةُ لَبِيدٍ أَلاَ كُلُّ شَىْءٍ مَا خَلاَ اللَّهَ بَاطِلٌ " . مَا زَادَ عَلَى ذَلِكَ . Reference : Sahih Muslim 2256e In-book reference : Book 41, Hadith 7 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 28, Hadith 5608 (deprecated numbering scheme). Quran description of life is vague, nonsensical and abstract. Furthermore, Quran and the pre-Islamic poets at the time of Mohammed are interconnected pre-Islamic poetry is found verbatim in the Quran Quranic poetry was considered just another form of poetry that was in vogue at the time of Mohammed. Mohammed himself was fond of poetry and surrounded himself with poets' Earlier poets ridiculed/rejected the miracle claims of the Quran and so Mohammed had them killed Poetry was able to rouse, provide inspiration and was used as a propaganda tool, similar to the Quran Umayyah and Abbas Ibn Mirdas were poets who claimed divinity through their own poetry, were able to influence followers by using poetry. Lastly, read this Hadith about Mohammed and the origin of Quran: Narrated Anas: There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on, he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." Then Allah caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the morning, they saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is the act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and took his body out of it because he had run away from them." They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in the morning, they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is an act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and threw his body outside it, for he had run away from them." They dug the grave for him as deep as they could, but in the morning, they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. So, they believed that what had befallen him was not done by human beings and had to leave him thrown (on the ground). حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مَعْمَرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَارِثِ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قَالَ كَانَ رَجُلٌ نَصْرَانِيًّا فَأَسْلَمَ وَقَرَأَ الْبَقَرَةَ وَآلَ عِمْرَانَ، فَكَانَ يَكْتُبُ لِلنَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم، فَعَادَ نَصْرَانِيًّا فَكَانَ يَقُولُ مَا يَدْرِي مُحَمَّدٌ إِلاَّ مَا كَتَبْتُ لَهُ، فَأَمَاتَهُ اللَّهُ فَدَفَنُوهُ، فَأَصْبَحَ وَقَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ فَقَالُوا هَذَا فِعْلُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَأَصْحَابِهِ، لَمَّا هَرَبَ مِنْهُمْ نَبَشُوا عَنْ صَاحِبِنَا. فَأَلْقُوهُ فَحَفَرُوا لَهُ فَأَعْمَقُوا، فَأَصْبَحَ وَقَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ، فَقَالُوا هَذَا فِعْلُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَأَصْحَابِهِ نَبَشُوا عَنْ صَاحِبِنَا لَمَّا هَرَبَ مِنْهُمْ. فَأَلْقَوْهُ فَحَفَرُوا لَهُ، وَأَعْمَقُوا لَهُ فِي الأَرْضِ مَا اسْتَطَاعُوا، فَأَصْبَحَ قَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ، فَعَلِمُوا أَنَّهُ لَيْسَ مِنَ النَّاسِ فَأَلْقَوْهُ. Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3617 In-book reference : Book 61, Hadith 124 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 56, Hadith 814 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Thats ironic because the word sword is not mentioned in the Quran once, yet in the bible its over 200 times! Matthew 10:34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” Dont be people of ignorance and hypocrites. Thats not a good representation of followers of Jesus.
@@Thee_Hamza bless you. You try so hard. We do know our Bible, you know. We don't just learn passages cherry picked and thrown at us by Muslims. Please read the verses that mention the sword The Word of God is a two edged sword. It pierces between the bone and the marrow. We Christians are warriors with the Word of God as our weapon. You should read it abit more so you don't make yourself look so stupid
"Bismillah, Al Rahman, Al Rahim" really means "In the Name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit" Titus 2:11-14 shows that Jesus is the Al-Rahman. Here is why. The Qur'an doesn't go against Monophysite Christology. The Begetter is the Father's Spirit (Rahim/Haq). The Father sends his Spirit upon his chosen ministries (Surah 40:15) only *BY* The Begetter/Rasul/Rahim/Haq (Surah 3:86 & 9:128) and this Holy Spirit/Ruh al-Qudus (not Jibreel) brings down Good News from The Lord (Surah 16:102). The same Begetter became present as Yesod by Kadmon (Surah 58:22) Allah = God Ruh al Qudus= Holy Spirit Muhammad = Jesus Qur'an = Perfectly Preserved Word of God made flesh by the Ruh into The Messiah. Many Muslims are going to apostate from Islam this year when the realise Allah's two right hand are The Kalimatullah and The Ruh Al-Qudus. The Kalimatullah becomes The Shin when He returns to make the world His footstool
What are you even talking about?? Making up your own theory’s. Get a life man. Christianity teaches you to lie?? Muhammad pbuh is known as the Ruhu I-Qudus (Pure spirit) and Ruhu I-Haaq (the spirt of truth). Your saying Muhammad= Jesus yet you don’t believe in Muhammad lol how funny. Just stop lying 🤥 dont be one of the hypocrites who shall taste a sever punishment for lying about such things.
If it did not need to be written why was it written in the first place? Some of the arguments are that nothing ever changed not the dots nor their critical marks. Here we are told that the very earliest collections had no diacritical marks. Which is which? One of the reasons for compilations is because the human memory cannot be trusted for accurate retention as time goes.
So just because you memorize a book that's your salvation? What is the benefit of memorizing a book When every man has own interprstation Is why there's different sects of muslims. Quranie, Shia ,Sunni, jihad, salifest, basic, converted, Extremist, nation of Islam.
Islams own Shabir Ali admitted publicly that they always knew about the different Qurans with different words and meanings. He said Muslims are just parroting what they've been told. His admission was very similar to Sheikh Yasir Qadhi.
There are no different Qurans, there are different Qira'at... meanwhile we have Protestant Bible, Catholic Bible, Orthodox Bible, KJV Bible, NIV Bible + an infinite number of Bibles with different books, chapters and verses...
This Muslim is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of THE SCIENTIFIC FACT that when a person is severely threatened by THEiR OWN Authority “Scripture”- they talk, Talk, TALK, TALK, & Talk some more. & FOR SURE Not allowing the other person to fully cross-examine the particulars of their argument, in linear order.
@@GodLogicApologetics Obviously down with a discussion, but why is it so hard for you to respond with your input here? Is this a complex response? I'm trying to understand you. The text says something which we know is wrong, so what "discussion" is merited that you refer to? As far as your stream, I already explained timing doesn't work and I'm not convinced it's needed. So without being afraid of slipping up, just be honest, do you believe in the text or can you accept it as wrong? You promised to respond a long time ago.
He has finally accepted the defence between the two quran. This is the lies they have been telling them about only one quran. Glory be to God almighty.
Those who had memorized the Quran were dying in battles faster than others could memorize it prompting either Caliph Bakr or Uthman to have put into a compiled written form.
By the way, Godlogic you're doing a great job. You can see the difference between your domineer and the Muslims domineering. They're all angry and hateful. Peace of Christ be with you.
Leviticus 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God. Why do muslims talk to mohamed when they pray?
WHAT! What is this ignorance, reading in Hafs and Warsh, just a difference in the way of reading or recitation
This is the funniest day of my life
ignorant Christians hhhhh
Swear by allah there are NO different words in the different versions. I DARE you
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My brother, I am a Muslim
If this is the the funniest day of you life, I wouldn't want to imagine how boring you everyday life.
Pin of shame 😂
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I advise you to read the book "The last Prophet" by haitham talaat (He has a UA-cam channel criticizing atheism), which contains clear evidence of the correctness of the Islamic religion, in which there is a critique of allegations of atheism, proof of the authenticity of the messengers and prophets, how religions emerged, and the idea of a monotheistic belief.
This channel deserves 100k subscriber's.Doing great work for Lord.God bless you man.
Glory to God
It will get there! ☝️✝️
Avery Austin 316 is insincere. Who wrote Genesis. It claims fruit trees existed before the sun.
@@nicktronson2977 what an imagination. Fairly tales like Genesis.
Definitely! I would say millions! I believe it's on the way.
Billions More people have memorized " Twinkle twinkle little star......Even in India, every other kid can sing it. Does that mean it's divine!
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This is the key problem with the argument from preservation, for preservation has nothing to do with validity. Preservation simply means that it is preserved, it has nothing to do with authorship and sourcing.
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I am from India and I don't give a fck about muslims and Islam😂😂😂
I'm form Ethiopia Orthodox religion. So happy thank you my brother
Y’all have the oldest most complete Bible in the world I’d love a English translation of it if you have a link God bless y’all
Can 10+10+10+7 equal one? There are several different Arabic Qurans, but according to Muslims, they equal one perfectly preserved Quran.
I am an Arab Muslim specifically from Tunisia. This is just a difference in the cover of a book we are Muslims do not have a unified cover rule and there is a difference in the method of recitation of the Qur’an(like warsh, hafs and qaloun) , hhhh you made me laugh, my friend, you and others, when you hear about something that you do not take for granted, first check whether it is true or not and search and open your mind
@@mouhamedayoubsamhoud6799 Shabir Ali admitted that they always knew about the different Qurans with different words and meanings and that Muslims are parroting what they've been told. His admission is very similar to Sheikh Yasir Qadhi.
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Evidently you haven’t read the various Qurans.
S37:12 - Hafs: … YOU wonder; Al-doori: … I wonder…; which is it?
Allah wonders? 🤣
S66:12 - Hafs: … his BOOKS: Warsh, Qaloon: his BOOK
Which is it? What is written in the umm Al kithab? Book or books?
Allah sent 125,000 prophets each with a book. You guys can’t produce evidence of a single book beyond the Bible. Allah was too puny and powerless to preserve the Torah and Gospel from corruption, and yet you believe that Allah is capable of preserving the Quran? Insanity bro!
How do you define “perfect preservation”? 🤣💀
@@mouhamedayoubsamhoud6799 u can’t try that bs with me we both know it is not a difference in recitation when their is diffrent words in each book
Muslims memorise the whole Quran word by word.Quran hsa only one version but bible has many
You don't know the facts and with out knowing it you try to assess things. It isn't like yours where some chapters are missing.
Honesty. Such a great trait.
Yet, perceived as weakness.
Because there are people who memorize the entire Quran - that somehow PROVES that the Quran was revealed by memorization....
Like, what the actual heck? What kind of logic is that? It's so bad..
No it proves that the Quran's preservation is unique and no religious document in history was preserved orally through mass transmission and scriptly through mass copies...
So the preservation of the Quran is an established fact!...
@@tahahagar7664 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tahahagar7664 Yeah, absolute rubbish.
Preservation through memorization is one of the worst ways for human beings to preserve anything.
You're bound to eventually mess up, and change the story... the changes are slight at first, like how people recite things differently, but over time you will have one hadith say Mohammad married Aisha when she was six, and another hadith saying he married Aisha when she was seven..
Why the discrepancy? Because preservation through pure memorization is garbage.
@@IvanSensei88 I can't believe some as ignorant as can spew absolute drivel this confident, its truely amazing.
The Quran was not only memorized, it was MASS memorized, and to even immoralize this, it was MASS written down and MASS copied... This is call MASS transmission. Someone can make a mistake, but when you have tens of others who correct it, this is been going on for 1400 years, every mosque, every year, every night, in Ramadan the whole Quran is recited..
We're not talking about Hadith, which is more comparable to the Bible (eventhough hadiths are more preserved and reliable than Bible)
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid I cant believe Christians are this bad as self awareness...
It's such a privilege seeing you work
Wow God bless you sister!
Definitely a classic! Great job guys!
Falsehood has no chance in the face of truth. Jesus be praised for ever!! God bless team for doing a great job.
He done a whole workout standing there 😂🤣 Jesus is Lord 🙏🏼
🤣😂🤣🤣😂, that is a good one.
Maybe it's the lies making him workout. Deep down, he knows, slam is a scam.
Glory to God an Christ. Amen.
@@abm5707Arbic language is simple, we go from alif (ا) baa(ب)and then you go to the gym (ج), no he just wants to dig out their lies, because all they talk about is there hate to Islam and why muslims are always so excited to be and stay their whole life a muslim. may allah make ur life easier and make you a muslim one day inshllah i pray for my brother or Sister and then u will understand 😂😮
Real life exercises
@@Crsabca7 I pray that God lead you away from the false teachings of Islam and into the truth of Jesus Christ my friend ❤
This was an awesome debate. Well done Christian team 👏👏👏👏👏
God bless 🙏❤️
@Muzzamil Hussein you mean lat, manat, uzza, allha and the pebbles? 😂😂😂
@Muzzamil Hussein
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God is one LORD:
Spirit coming out of Allah - he breathed his Spirit into Adam and Mary. Looks like you have two gods.
And what is the purpose of breathing his Spirit into Adam and Mary?
@Muzzamil Hussein
Vatican is Satanic.
@Muzzamil Hussein
Abdul, what happen to the spirit of Allah? And what about the breathing?
ALLAH GIBRIL FAKE I D OF MOHAMMAD😉
GodLogic & Anthony, God bless you..
I'm a Christian and I don't "definitely" think the Quran is like the Bible. This Muslim guy is smoking to much hashish, if he does!
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Good for you, keep telling yourself whatever you have to, to get a better night sleep! 👍
@@alonzoharris9049 moPIEEG thought there was
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The quran is from 1924. Queen Elizabeth is older than your qurans
@@alonzoharris9049 prove me wrong, boy. profit moPIEEG took little 5 yr ol's
@@alonzoharris9049 moPIEEG was a donkee to you now? lol.. what's left, boy?
TIME TO HIT THE BELL FOR NOTIFICATION PEOPLE
Amen!! Done, "all".
@@entertaininformmedia7836 God Bless
Avery Austin 316 thinks he is smart talking about At-Tabari. Who wrote Genesis?
@@islamtruth6994 why is the sun set in muddy waters?
WHAT! What is this ignorance, reading in Hafs and Warsh, just a difference in the way of reading or recitation
This is the funniest day of my life
ignorant Christians hhhhh
Great job brothers 👏
This is the great new channel for me 2022.Keep the great work Avery and Anthony.God bless you
Heard that? That's the muslim running away! 🤣 God bless you brother and your ministry!
he was "running away" because he realised he couldnt make the other understand as he was standing tall in his ignorance, a man standing as proud as that must have a solid foundation to be acting like that, he is clearly not aware of the corruption of the bible, i mean what even in hell. Christians very much lack scientific understanding and being objective to their own faith and therefore their own self, i mean you guys still believe the earth is flat how can one argue with a caveman who believes that when the evidence is infront of his eyes. My friend let me ask you this instead are you aware of the changes made in your bible? there is actual evidence for that, the early christians believed that jesus was not the son of god rather miraculously concieved and was a mere man .
Thank you for your ministry 💖🙏💖🙏💖
What ministry. He spends his time lying on Islam. When does he talk about how Genesis is a lie. It claims fruit trees existed before the sun.
@@islamtruth6994 How is he lying if he's reading directly from the unholy quran? You're following a false religion where you have to lie to keep your pseudo religion standing. Everyone sees the truth of the false doctrines of islam.
@@john144 you're asking a question and saying unholy. So what honest question is that.
@@islamtruth6994 It's a rhetorical question because everyone with eyes to see already know the truth. I'll pray for my Elohim to remove the scales from your eyes in the holy name of Jesus Christ (Yahushua Hammachiac).
@@islamtruth6994 what in Islam is true, other than it spread by the sword?
uthman wrote the quran,but no one knows where his qurans are! What about Hafsa's qu'ran,$10.000 if found? any takers?
Let him who say they memorized the whole Quran is a liar, for none can say they memorized the whole Quran, cause alot has been lost.
I wonder who in what Hadith(s) said that?
I know. It's in millions of hearts. Who wrote Genesis?
@@nicktronson2977 You claim the father wrote Genesis. How did "father" get it so wrong. It says fruit trees existed before the sun.
@@nicktronson2977 where is eden relative to Genesis 1. That's hilarious. Step up your game and know what is in the Bible. Blind faith.
@@islamtruth6994 are you stupid? It’s clear you haven’t even read Genesis, who are you to mock that which was sent before? Didn’t Muhammad say towards the Torah “I believe in thee and the one who sent thee.”? Now be a good Muslim and believe as your “prophet” has believed.
God almighty will continue to bless Tony and Godlogic.
We pray for you brothers...
Love u from Indian 🇮🇳
@Godlogic, keep up the great work! God bless!
Well done bro this is a good job
Greatly appreciated,keep it up guys great job 👏 👍
Man your wisdom is amazing, God bless you! 😊
Thanks to Godlogic and ather brothers/ sisters for opening our eyes to wickedness of this religion
God bless you brother Avery! Let us all know how we can support you.
Research demonstrates that oral transmission and memory are insufficient to transmit verbatim an oral text. The ability to emorise something verbatim exists because of textuality. When you have a written text and that written text becomes the standard, then you have a measure/yardstick to measure everything against.
Keep up the good work! ❤️☝️✝️
I love it, Y’all da best 👍🏾🫡❤️🔥🔥
The Qur'an which was chosen among the 30 as the official text for the whole world, belong to Hafs. Hafs also didn’t speak or write in the Quraishi dialect. He was from Kufa, which is in Iraq, the very place which was despised by both Hudhaifa and Uthman, and whose manuscripts were burned in 652 AD because they were seen as a corrupted dialect.
1) Hafs was unreliable, weak, untrustworthy, and a liar according to scholars and used fabricated chains, so that others avoided him and refused to use him.
2) He was chosen for political purposes (the Ottoman’s preferred him to the others).
3) He was chosen by the Saudi Arabian government and in 1924 the Hafs quran was canonized. One wonders why the Arabian government chose an Iraqi dialect over their own?
In 1924, the government-appointed committee in Cairo selected one of these accepted readings-the Hafs ‘an ‘Asim version which dates back to A.D. 745-to use across the Egyptian religious educational system. This translation was soon adopted throughout the rest of the world. A large number of the competing readings were then destroyed by sinking them in the Nile river (The Qur’an and its Biblical Subtext). True story.
8:55 he finally was honest. “Yes they are different“
Of course the Qira'at are different, thats why the have different names.. Notice how all of the Qira'at go back to the Prophet Muhammad...
@@tahahagar7664 what is qirat? Is that the different recitations? If so thats still different bro lol
How incredibly difficult to remember what was said word to word few minutes ago.
In 192 to different Qurans in one language
Most Muslims do not understand or speak
Keep going, brother. I'm praying for you. Your brother from Ethiopia.
1:50 ,,,,please memorize the verse about “5 times adult suckling,” that was supposed to replace “ 10 times adult suckling.” That was eaten by “ a tame sheep.” If the Quran is complete and without textual differences.
Your works are truly amazing
If the Quran is preserved:
1 Why did Uthman burn large sections of it?
2 Where is the original ?
3 Why are there over 30 DIFFERENT versions currently in circulation?
4. What was burned?
5. Why were large sections burned?
the last 2 can be used against Christianity, its mainly the first one that causes HUGE issues. the last 2 can be used against Muslims if they use those argumentations against Christianity
@@entertaininformmedia7836 Go watch Yasir Qadhi “Why did Uthman Burn the Quran”. Dated 2012
According to him they brurned the Qurans due to respect for it then also adds there were mistakes in them and human error was at fault.
He then states new copies were sent out from the original to each of the main cities.
Yet neither the original nor these copies can be found.
Further to that over 30 copies have been sourced and read that still have grammatical errors in them when put up against the Hafs Quran.
Where is the preservation in any of that from God?
@@omaryasin7326 No one in Christianity is claiming the Bible or Tanakh is preserved by God .
Therein lays the issue for Islam.
Whilst we are on the subject of claims and God you should insist any Muslim you encounter go read Exodus 3 and the very important conversation between GOD and Moses within it.
1. God speaks from within a burning bush (He’s in his own creation)
2 God gives Moses his name ( His name is not Allah nor the 98 other names bestowed upon Allah)
3 God reaffirmed that this name is forever and for all Generations ( אֶהְיֶה - Ehyeh -I AM )
From this account of Moses we can state with full confidence that Allah is not the God of Moses.
We can therefore dismiss the claim by Islam that the Quran is the preserved word of the God of Moses.
It clearly isn’t.
Conclusion:
God and Moses burned the Quran 2000 years before it was even a mental concept of its author.
All Uthman did was set fire to combustible materials and within them any notion what was written was preserved by the GOD of Moses.
It’s almost as if God knew what was coming ( He’s God after all ) and put the pointless argument to rest before it even became a conversation right here on UA-cam.
Now Islam can keep attempting to resurrect the argument but as we know only God can resurrect the truth.
If it’s truth in the vernacular of God that Muslims seek then tell them to come to Jesus.
For the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
That word is eternal just like the source.
The God of Moses.
אֶהְיֶה
🙏🏼✝️🙏🏼
*QURAN COPY PASTE FAKE BOOK SIMPLE*
Keep it up bro,, need more your video. I will share it to my friends. LETS GO!!!
Let’s go!! ✊🏾✊🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Very brilliant keep it up
Wonderful 🙌 God bless 🙏
When all else fails, argue from authority "You know better than me? But I'm Arab." Yes, sir, you are... and fortunately for us none Arabic speakers you gave us the benefit of explaining exactly why the Warsh verse is erroneous.
It's so sad to be so afraid of telling outright truth.
Avery, discussion on the differences between the two qur'ans has no point unless you present the premise first. 'Muslims say the the qur'an is exactly the same today as it was in Muhamed's time...so start first by confirming this with them. Hear him clearly admitting this. (Let him hear himself admitting this before you present the evidence). "May I show you some differences?"
Hatun and Jay had many A4 laminated sheets showing these differences. 2 columns... Hafs on one side Wersh on the other. The Arabic paragraph underneath with the GENUINE English translation below. So no fiddling with the books.
I am sure Hatun would email copies to you if you contacted.
her.
Since Hatun's discovery of there being many Arabic qur'ans, shocked muslims have been coming up with all sorts of explanations (dialectical etc) for
for this, but I think most have accepted this now.
That muslim was wound up tighter than a rubber band (verbal diarreah). I really enjoy watching your calm, friendly, respectful, gentle way. They are more prepared to listen to you, as they feel respected. Keep it up.
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We've always known about the dialect differences. You people are simply ignorant . Bring your best scholars and we'll bring ours, Christianity looses every time. Guaranteed.
Hark, do I hear the distinct sounds of The Taqiya Shuffle?🎻👯♂️
Nicccceeeeee!!! 😂😂😂
As a Christian born and raised and spent most of my adulthood in the middle east with 98% Muslim neighborhood and studied quran by islamic government force, I realized Islam as developed from from late 9th century to 13th century had to go to it's transitions and survival modes. The Hafs version of quran I must say is closest to the events that happened in the 7th century while Mohammad was still alive 300 years after his death and the Warsh quran mostly focused to muslims from the far lands, like Egypt, Africa and Persia.
@@alonzoharris9049 Guess which quran Hafs or Warsh is this>>>> I heard the Messenger of Allah say: "This Quran was revealed with sorrow, so when you recite it, then weep. If you cannot weep then PRETEND to weep, and make your voice melodious in reciting it. WHOEVER does not make his voice melodious, he is not one of us".
Is this allah saying or your false rasul making up his own revelation forcing and also threatening (if you don't do whatever i say, you are not one of us) to gullible people.
Hypocrites from the beginning till now.
Matthew 6:5 'And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their rewards.
@@sirunikunushik7735 😂😂PERFECT
@@alonzoharris9049 Address the story he talked about on hafs and warsh qurans
let's hear yr own side of the story otherwise....shut up!!!
@@alonzoharris9049 "You made your story up of raising up in a muslims country. You can't even tell us the name of the country. 😂"
Abbas. If I would have ever cared what you and people like you think and did to my religion, my people and my country I wouldn't be alive today and expose your cult. Why you wanna know what muslim country I was raised, to judge the government and the people? to insult your muslim brothers and sisters? Astaghfirullah!
We all know none of your rasul's companions were killed by none- muslims, they all killed each other, not for allah and his rasul, but for power and wealth. Abbas, 1400 years, Isn't enough you muslims blaming none-muslims for your fails?
This video is not about me, it's about Islam and Its many qurans, and you denying and ignoring the facts, that's why you don't wanna talk about them.
@@sirunikunushik7735 Oh my great comment brother. 🔥May our God bless you and protect you at all times ❤️
You are doing superb
He’s an Abdul. My Christian brothers lol 🤡
My Ahunos Avery and Anthony God bless you!
Nothing but ❤️ brothers you guys are awesome keep preaching the truth about Islam. How many Muslims around the world out of the over 1 billion Muslims that there are understand Arabic? Just cuz I recite something in a German doesn't mean that I understand German. Even cockatoos can memorize stuff but that doesn't mean that they know what it is hello 😳🤔.
So hating other religions is the truth 😂?
What a truthful preacher, i guess the Muslim 1 is preaching not yo preacher ,yo preacher is just hating 😮 , "Mohammed is not a prophet"? 😅 i mean Jesus is a prophet and so is Mohammed sallallahu Calayhi wa sallam❤❤
U cant memorize shit brother stop the cap 🧢🎓
@@Crsabca7 Jesus gives us Relationship not religion. God loved his creation, he came in flesh , giving us his son Jesus, he was God in human form, he died for all humanity, forgiving all the sin of the world and conquered death. Jesus gives eternal life and gives all who believe in him eternal in heaven. And as we live in this world with the same spirit Jesus gives ( the Holy Spirit ) He is with us , guides, helps and leads us. I’ll stick with Jesus, Mohamed does nothing for you except give you a false religion with a bunch of rules. No hope no love! No freedom.
Ma Shaa Allah. Kudos to you, ya akhie. Well explained. 👏🏼
Amen!!! Awesome you guys. I pray for the Muslims, they need Jesus
This comment shows your ignorance, we believe in jesus and follow him more than you, our woman are covered like Mary, jesus didn't drink or eat swine... Xmas Easter all fabricated and exaggerated holiday seasons for commercial consumers... go back to the correct teaching of Jesus.
The 10 commandments aren’t even in the Quran. What’s the quaran’s solution for sin? The black stone? So then the black stone has Devine abilities to take away sin? I thought only God can forgive sins.Islam is the worst and most foolish book and I struggle to understand y ppl believe this nonsense
Truth in their face they deny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You guys have destroyed the every argument of the momins so easily. Keep it up Bro 👌👍
Can I copy your videos and upload them to my channel ?
Yes! 👍🏾
@@GodLogicApologetics tag teaming with Anthony makes you look very dumb. You associate with Santa Claus, very dumb Anthony, and Sham Poo. Still waiting for your answer. Who wrote Genesis? It claims fruit trees existed before the sun. You know it's wrong.
best comment Quran is "true" QURAN is AHAD (only in ayah 112 :1 does that mean one) but I prefer THIS ONE (ahad) over anyone 🤣🤣
GREAT stream Avery God Bless
Remember when Hatun Tash took 27 different korans to speakers corner .
That was epic
Good debater bro
Thats the problem of memorizing book. today u memorize tommorrow forgot something. That is why apostle wtote a letter.
Islam is a cult, Quran is paraphrased from Bible, Torah and pre-Islamic poets, in fact, Mohammed used poetry and rhymed prose as two methods of conviction for the language of the Quran. Every attempt was made to distinguish Quran revelation as Divine and from God, but history tells of another story. Poets (Sha'ir) of the time filled the roles of Historians, soothsayers and propagandist. They represented their own tribal traditions and glorified the Arabian Peninsula. Their poetry had the ability to stir up emotions, lead people up to battle and denounce a person. Apprentices were called "Rawi" (narrators) whose job was to learn the poems by heart and to recite them with explanations in a beautiful/dramatic voice they would also often have to mention the chain (Isnad) of people from who they learnt the poem. This tradition was later adopted by the "Huffaz" (Memorizers) or "Qurra" (Reciters) for their part in Quran preservation. The following Poets are documented as pre-Islamic: Imrail Qays, Tarafa Bin Al Abd, Zuhyur Bin Sulma, Labid Bin Rabia, Amr Bin Kulthuum, Antara Bin Shaddad, Al-Hitara Bin Hilliza, Al-A'shaa Maymuun, Ubaid Bin Al-Abras. Here you can see how Mohmmed praises pre-Islamic poets: Abu Huraira said: “As the Prophet said (Allah bless him and give him peace): ‘The most poetic saying spoken by the Arabs is the saying of Labid “Everything but Allah is surely futile!'” حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ حُجْرٍ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا شَرِيكٌ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الْمَلِكِ بْنِ عُمَيْرٍ، عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم، قَالَ: أَشْعَرُ كَلِمَةٍ تَكَلَّمَتْ بِهَا الْعَرَبُ كَلِمَةُ لَبِيدٍ: أَلا كُلُّ شَيْءٍ مَا خَلا اللَّهَ بَاطِلٌ. Grade: Sahih (Zubair `Aliza'i) Reference : Ash-Shama'il Al-Muhammadiyah 247 In-book reference : Book 36, Hadith 7 Abu Huraira reported: I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: The truest word which the poet stated is the word of Labid "Behold! apart from Allah everything is vain." وَحَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، أَخْبَرَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ زَكَرِيَّاءَ، عَنْ إِسْرَائِيلَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الْمَلِكِ، بْنِ عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ أَبَا هُرَيْرَةَ، يَقُولُ سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " إِنَّ أَصْدَقَ كَلِمَةٍ قَالَهَا شَاعِرٌ كَلِمَةُ لَبِيدٍ أَلاَ كُلُّ شَىْءٍ مَا خَلاَ اللَّهَ بَاطِلٌ " . مَا زَادَ عَلَى ذَلِكَ . Reference : Sahih Muslim 2256e In-book reference : Book 41, Hadith 7 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 28, Hadith 5608 (deprecated numbering scheme).
Quran description of life is vague, nonsensical and abstract. Furthermore, Quran and the pre-Islamic poets at the time of Mohammed are interconnected pre-Islamic poetry is found verbatim in the Quran Quranic poetry was considered just another form of poetry that was in vogue at the time of Mohammed. Mohammed himself was fond of poetry and surrounded himself with poets' Earlier poets ridiculed/rejected the miracle claims of the Quran and so Mohammed had them killed Poetry was able to rouse, provide inspiration and was used as a propaganda tool, similar to the Quran Umayyah and Abbas Ibn Mirdas were poets who claimed divinity through their own poetry, were able to influence followers by using poetry. Lastly, read this Hadith about Mohammed and the origin of Quran: Narrated Anas: There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-`Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on, he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him." Then Allah caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the morning, they saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is the act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and took his body out of it because he had run away from them." They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in the morning, they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, "This is an act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and threw his body outside it, for he had run away from them." They dug the grave for him as deep as they could, but in the morning, they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. So, they believed that what had befallen him was not done by human beings and had to leave him thrown (on the ground). حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مَعْمَرٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَارِثِ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قَالَ كَانَ رَجُلٌ نَصْرَانِيًّا فَأَسْلَمَ وَقَرَأَ الْبَقَرَةَ وَآلَ عِمْرَانَ، فَكَانَ يَكْتُبُ لِلنَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم، فَعَادَ نَصْرَانِيًّا فَكَانَ يَقُولُ مَا يَدْرِي مُحَمَّدٌ إِلاَّ مَا كَتَبْتُ لَهُ، فَأَمَاتَهُ اللَّهُ فَدَفَنُوهُ، فَأَصْبَحَ وَقَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ فَقَالُوا هَذَا فِعْلُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَأَصْحَابِهِ، لَمَّا هَرَبَ مِنْهُمْ نَبَشُوا عَنْ صَاحِبِنَا. فَأَلْقُوهُ فَحَفَرُوا لَهُ فَأَعْمَقُوا، فَأَصْبَحَ وَقَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ، فَقَالُوا هَذَا فِعْلُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَأَصْحَابِهِ نَبَشُوا عَنْ صَاحِبِنَا لَمَّا هَرَبَ مِنْهُمْ. فَأَلْقَوْهُ فَحَفَرُوا لَهُ، وَأَعْمَقُوا لَهُ فِي الأَرْضِ مَا اسْتَطَاعُوا، فَأَصْبَحَ قَدْ لَفَظَتْهُ الأَرْضُ، فَعَلِمُوا أَنَّهُ لَيْسَ مِنَ النَّاسِ فَأَلْقَوْهُ. Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3617 In-book reference : Book 61, Hadith 124 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 56, Hadith 814 (deprecated numbering scheme)
What a strange hadith
That muslim guy was very dishonest 🤦🏽♂️
Jesus is Lord! 🙏❤️🙏
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they can't catch up with their own lies, so they drown in it
Are they fighting or killing each other?
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This is Islam. Both.
@@alonzoharris9049 LOL at you. The Koran was created by Muhammad and friends. It's ad hoc.
Thats ironic because the word sword is not mentioned in the Quran once, yet in the bible its over 200 times! Matthew 10:34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
Dont be people of ignorance and hypocrites. Thats not a good representation of followers of Jesus.
@@Thee_Hamza bless you. You try so hard. We do know our Bible, you know. We don't just learn passages cherry picked and thrown at us by Muslims.
Please read the verses that mention the sword
The Word of God is a two edged sword. It pierces between the bone and the marrow.
We Christians are warriors with the Word of God as our weapon.
You should read it abit more so you don't make yourself look so stupid
The existence of millions of people memorizing the koran prove the koran is preserved 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Bismillah, Al Rahman, Al Rahim" really means "In the Name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit"
Titus 2:11-14 shows that Jesus is the Al-Rahman. Here is why.
The Qur'an doesn't go against Monophysite Christology.
The Begetter is the Father's Spirit (Rahim/Haq). The Father sends his Spirit upon his chosen ministries (Surah 40:15) only *BY* The Begetter/Rasul/Rahim/Haq (Surah 3:86 & 9:128) and this Holy Spirit/Ruh al-Qudus (not Jibreel) brings down Good News from The Lord (Surah 16:102). The same Begetter became present as Yesod by Kadmon (Surah 58:22)
Allah = God
Ruh al Qudus= Holy Spirit
Muhammad = Jesus
Qur'an = Perfectly Preserved Word of God made flesh by the Ruh into The Messiah.
Many Muslims are going to apostate from Islam this year when the realise Allah's two right hand are The Kalimatullah and The Ruh Al-Qudus. The Kalimatullah becomes The Shin when He returns to make the world His footstool
What are you even talking about?? Making up your own theory’s. Get a life man. Christianity teaches you to lie?? Muhammad pbuh is known as the Ruhu I-Qudus (Pure spirit) and Ruhu I-Haaq (the spirt of truth). Your saying Muhammad= Jesus yet you don’t believe in Muhammad lol how funny. Just stop lying 🤥 dont be one of the hypocrites who shall taste a sever punishment for lying about such things.
Avery Austin 316 gets dumber when he tag teams with Anthony. Anthony is very dumb.
Holes in the narrative for sure!!
Nah don't don't bring this junk here.. Trying to marry the Bible to the Koran..
WHAT !!
If it did not need to be written why was it written in the first place? Some of the arguments are that nothing ever changed not the dots nor their critical marks. Here we are told that the very earliest collections had no diacritical marks. Which is which?
One of the reasons for compilations is because the human memory cannot be trusted for accurate retention as time goes.
The oldest quran is in a museum in England, dates back to the time of Muhammad and wait for...it hasn't been changed
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you can just Google search how many Qurans are there and you will see more then one and there are not the same
Google it before you reply
Muslims clearly have the same spirit the way they shuffle around words so aggressively.
the brainwashing.... We pray many will come to SAVING knowledge of Jesus
Good job bros. God empower you guys
Thanks brother Shalom wachem
Yes, love this energy too. Nice.
Great work brother (side note OMG is Blaspemy
Always allow the owner of the tent speak please do not over take his tend 🙏 or you put your own tent 🙏
So just because you memorize a book that's your salvation? What is the benefit of memorizing a book When every man has own interprstation Is why there's different sects of muslims. Quranie, Shia ,Sunni, jihad, salifest, basic, converted, Extremist, nation of Islam.
if cognitive dissonance was a person
Islams own Shabir Ali admitted publicly that they always knew about the different Qurans with different words and meanings. He said Muslims are just parroting what they've been told. His admission was very similar to Sheikh Yasir Qadhi.
There are no different Qurans, there are different Qira'at... meanwhile we have Protestant Bible, Catholic Bible, Orthodox Bible, KJV Bible, NIV Bible + an infinite number of Bibles with different books, chapters and verses...
@@tahahagar7664 Has anyone ever fought and survived? If so, fought and kiIIed are different words. This means Hafs and Warsh are different Qurans.
Darkness Flees from the Light of Truth. Always! The redeemed are not affraid.
This Muslim is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of THE SCIENTIFIC FACT that when a person is severely threatened by THEiR OWN Authority “Scripture”- they talk, Talk, TALK, TALK, & Talk some more. & FOR SURE Not allowing the other person to fully cross-examine the particulars of their argument, in linear order.
Well done...collection is not equal to writting. Keep it up brothers.
So funny how he said so simply ‘if one means more sense than the other, THATS A DIFFERENCE’
Awesome
This Muslim guy is a speed of talk too.
praise! (':
Who can memorize that Quran by heart? That book makes no sense!
GREAT time for me I shall be here in WOW 34 HOURS
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@@GodLogicApologetics You are so afraid to address Genesis. Why? 🤔 I think it's the Avery Austin 316 shuffle.
@@islamtruth6994 I’ll address with you on my Live Stream.. you willing to have a discussion?
@@GodLogicApologetics Obviously down with a discussion, but why is it so hard for you to respond with your input here? Is this a complex response? I'm trying to understand you. The text says something which we know is wrong, so what "discussion" is merited that you refer to? As far as your stream, I already explained timing doesn't work and I'm not convinced it's needed. So without being afraid of slipping up, just be honest, do you believe in the text or can you accept it as wrong? You promised to respond a long time ago.
@@islamtruth6994 I’m Live every Tuesday you know that. Join up.
Was he saying “I’m arrogant” at the end?!?! 😂😂
The guy in the orange is very patient and tolerant: like the Dharmic religions....Aum
Thankyou JESUS
He has finally accepted the defence between the two quran.
This is the lies they have been telling them about only one quran.
Glory be to God almighty.
Great work, god logic for oscar
This was fun 😄
Those who had memorized the Quran were dying in battles faster than others could memorize it prompting either Caliph Bakr or Uthman to have put into a compiled written form.
By the way, Godlogic you're doing a great job. You can see the difference between your domineer and the Muslims domineering. They're all angry and hateful. Peace of Christ be with you.
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Godlogic your on point.
Leviticus 19:31
Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.
Why do muslims talk to mohamed when they pray?
Without lies Islam dies
ISLAM IS THE TRUTH YA MASHALLAH ☪😎
@@Hacker-fh1ft Haha lying again 🤣🤣🤣