The Quran's Many Problems 09 - Thirty-One Different Qurans! 31!
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2024
- Could someone read any of the Arabic qurans easily without any assistance? Did the early Qurans contain diacritical markings or vowlizations? How many different possibilities can one come up with in reading just any work without the asstance of these vowlization system markings? Are all the early qurans read identically? Does the 1924 Cairo edition match any and all early Quranic copies in reading? How many different readings of the Arabic Quran do exist? How many different Arabic Qurans one can find today?
These questions and more are discused in this episode by both Al and Dr. Jay.
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Bless you
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@naturelover7433 That's an interesting take. What is it that you don't agree with if I may ask?
@@east-2-west It is called hutzpah. The act of making claims so outrageous that people become unsure in their position, thinking they may not know something.
@PeterRudesindus Can you list and elaborate on the claims that you are referring to as "outrageous"?
31 flavors of false prophecy.
A fellow Muslim here who knows to read Arabic, the video just shows 15 different qira'ats of the same quran. Technically, they are the same. Sorry if you've been thinking otherwise.
why would you have so many different riwayat by different Qari if they are all the same is like having 40 different Harry Potter and claim they are all the same
1, Qaloon Qur'an
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN
26, Ruh QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
@@SheikhAlladeen try reading the Arabic instead of translations, and you'll know...
@@mhmdyasr most Muslims are not arabic speakers poor ppl all going to hell
Messengers were never sent to other than their own people? So it is claimed in Sura 14:4 and 30:47. So Muhammad was only send for the Beduins ?
32.3 Do they say, ‘He has fabricated it’? Rather it is the truth from your Lord, that you may warn a people to whom there did not come any warner before you, so that they may be guided [to the right path]. NO WARNER before you !!!!! Forget Abraham was ever in Mekka
There is only one quran - 4 different Warsh quran, 7 different Hafs qurans, qaaluun quran, al-doori quran, Al-Susi, Shobah, Ibn Ammar, Al Kesaa, Khalaf quran, Khallad Quran, Ibn Zkwaan Quran, Jamas Quran, Qunbul Quran, Ibn Kathir quran etc etc = ONE quran
saudi band the 4 different hafs qurans and algeria bans the 7 different Hafs qurans - so why are islamic countries banning each others qurans - COS THEY ARE DIFFERENT
The holes in the narrative are still perfectly preserved!
Dots aren't only the problem but there are also vowel movements which can be placed above or under a letter to change the pronunciation. For example if we place a hamza on top of the alif أ its pranounced "a" but if we place the hamza on the bottom of the alif إ its pranounced "e" and there are 4 more letter movements in arabic that can be placed under or over letters to change their pronunciation or meaning.
that is true, those small things to non arabic speakers is nothing, but to the ones that knows the language knows that those can literally change the whole scripture just because of one misplaced vowel, or dot, or whatever tiny thing you wrote, that is why the lord is jesus, and we shall worship him and i have had many dreams and visions about the end times, and it is coming very very soon, repent and give up your life completely to the lord jesus christ before it actually gets too late and walk as holy as possible, preach the bible everywhere, to family friends strangers, neighbors,... and read the bible. the end times will be very crazy and the quran is not the way nor muhammad but the only way is through the lord jesus
shokran very helpfull
its a qiraat. doesnt chane narrative
@@repentfromyoursins6777 the Lord is not Jesus. The Lord is ineffable and beyond space time. Jesus was his Prophet. The sooner your accept it, the better. Muslims are your brothers, no point in sitting on atheist laps.
@@billybro1403 That is the narrative of your "prophet" Muhammad who went into a cave alone, after he came out in fear after a demon strangled him there, he went to a so-called christian heretic who claimed that the demon was an angel (Gabriel). The poor illiterate believed that to the point that he believed that made him gods last prophet. After having numerous demon possesed fits he proclaimed that he is God's revelation to all mankind and the rest of humanity was deceived! Talking of being deceived... Now name me one contemporary who can confirm that they heard or have seen these revelations?
Now just to educate you: Your prophet Jesus proclaimed that "I am the Alpha and Omega- the Beginning and the End". Like you said: "The Lord is ineffable and beyond space time." and "The sooner your accept it, the better."
Further Please (!) educate yourself of what the Quran says about Christians before you call me your brother: ["5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
Sorry to educate you about your religion (but I have studied the Quran without the rubbish your Imams are sugar coating it with)- but it is not a religion of peace nor one coming from the God of Abraham .
This video is 5 yrs old but still a masterpiece
The apostate law is the only reason islam has not collapse. Jesus is Lord.
Amen
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Every single day Islam is gaining more followers than Christianity and u are claiming its collapsing. Look at the way u worship God and look at the Islam way, look at how Muslims unites each other to perform pilgrimage in mecca. This is my whatsapp line if u want to prove me why Christianity/Catholism is better religion compare to Islam. +233500978153
Agreed und AMEN
@@abdulmumiin Is that your defence to the facts presented in this clip? Why don't you simply refute the facts! This is a typical attitude of majority of Islam. You are skilled in the art of deflection, and so mentally imprisoned by your books that you are not able to reason with very obvious fallacies and errors of your books.
31 Qurans = 31 different terror manuals.
and prophet Muhammad is the Best of all Criminals..
@@MessianicPrince bigot
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Abdul Muumin Mutawakil sorry mate... we don’t call anyone... you are welcome to explore our videos and website to see our position...
I find it hard to believe that somehow you have no clue what is the difference between “Born Again”
Followers of Jesus and any others! I also have a hard time believing that you can do this search yourself... have you heard of Google and UA-cam!!
In fact...it's not the different versions of Quran...but different versions(ascents) of language...Arabic
And for your information!
Quran was revealed in verbal form...later on it was compiled in written form....thus you may find different ascent of same language....
Then stop saying the same thing about the bible then it’s the same concept
@@AFYardie nah you got real contradictions in the bible, the Qur'an at most employs synonyms and this happens rarely. Your Bible has Eithet a completely different story or complete contradictions. Not go even speak about all the different Bible versions mormon, ....
@@watdat2468 The Quran contradicts itself constantly with clear vague things the bible doesn’t have contradictions what people don’t realise is they can’t even read it in context yet they say it has contradictions even with the king being 22 and 42 it’s not a contradiction at all it’s best explained by Christians here on yt and it’s pretty clear, difference is between bible and Quran is the Quran’s organisation is better yet still has clear contradictions the bible is older and in turn doesn’t organise itself in the way it should like modern day organisation within a book yet the message is the same and is clear.
@@watdat2468 bible versions are not from the same bible for example king names these bibles like Mormons ect aren’t bibles and they aren’t even Christian’s if you actually took the time to look up Mormonism they aren’t even the same so thier so called “bible which they call “morman bible” isn’t the truth and the same as the bible as in king James Becuase the faiths are different
@@watdat2468 you want me to show you a vid showing the Quran contractions? Becuase tbh a lot of people in Islam aren’t told nor read or seem to point out the clear contradictions within the Quran because obviously they are told it’s the truth so they read without thinking about that stuff but there is contractions within it and especially the fact it’s said to be the continuing or “correcting” from the previous gospels it doesn’t even match nor Line up it’s not even the same in any way with the gospels whatsoever nor the Torah and it’s not Because of corruption, it’s Becuase it’s not the same nor a Abrahamic religion. Since the time of Muhammad the bible and torah have been the same as they were reading it within that time period while Muhammad was among the Jews and Christian’s.
I was told by someone while I was in Jordan for work that 35 different Arabic Qurans were available. All different to each other and all considered authoritative. I was stunned with the candid nature that this was said. How many have you found so far?
If you are able to change the spelling of a word and still retain its meaning, then you are more powerful than your god. He said no one change his words and he will protect it. Small points I know. But over the breath/scope of the different Arabic Qurans you find words changed with different meaning, words edited out or into the text. Perfect preservation of the text is a joke. If you think one of the many Arabic Qurans is the true one, which one is it and why are all the others corrupt and not the one you believe in?
Ur right i found many Qurans with All different covers
not only different covers, but contents also
@@986najes8 nah u got no proof none does its weird why do u illiterates spent so much time proving Quran is fake but u can't change shit and Islam is still growing rapidly then any religion and it's expected to be the highest in 5 yrs
Yea different Qurans ... But what wonders me is that yet it's contents never contradicts..
Don’t forget that the quran was memorized by heart by hundreds of the prophet companions. And many of them were literate and they wrote it down. The dotting of the quran was done when many of these companies were still alive, and they verified it.
Umar was once looking for the text of a specific verse of the Qur’an he vaguely remembered. To his deep sorrow, he discovered that the only person who had any record of that verse had been killed in the battle of Yamama and that the verse was consequently lost. (Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif, p. 10 - see also as-Suyuti’s al-Itqan fi ‘ulum al-Quran, volume 1, p. 204)
“Ismail bin Ibrahim narrated from Ayub from Naf’i from Ibn Umar who said: ‘Verily among you people one would say that he has found the Quran while he is unaware of what the total quantity of the Quran was, because most of the Quran has been lost. Rather one should say that verily he has found the Quran that has appeared.’” (Fadhail al-Quran, by Qasim bin Salam (d. 222 A.H.), Volume 2, p. 135)
It is reported from Ismail ibn Ibrahim from Ayyub from Naafi from Ibn Umar who said: "Let none of you say 'I have acquired the whole of the Qur'an'. How does he know what all of it is when much of the Qur'an has disappeared? Rather let him say 'I have acquired what has survived.'" (Al-Itqan,)
We know Uthman told the companions " if in doubt use the Harf of the Prophet (quraishi) Why would they be in doubt ?
Umar was once looking for the text of a specific verse of the Qur’an he vaguely remembered. To his deep sorrow, he discovered that the only person who had any record of that verse had been killed in the battle of Yamama and that the verse was consequently lost. (Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif, p. 10 - see also as-Suyuti’s al-Itqan fi ‘ulum al-Quran, volume 1, p. 204)
“Ismail bin Ibrahim narrated from Ayub from Naf’i from Ibn Umar who said: ‘Verily among you people one would say that he has found the Quran while he is unaware of what the total quantity of the Quran was, because most of the Quran has been lost. Rather one should say that verily he has found the Quran that has appeared.’” (Fadhail al-Quran, by Qasim bin Salam (d. 222 A.H.), Volume 2, p. 135) Idris don't just rep old lies learn yourself
How do you know that followers of Muhammad "memorized by heart" the surahs of Quran? He gave surahs for many years, and then followers of Muhammad went to battles, then you say they memorized it with no errors??
@@SheikhAlladeen Hi Andy, There're no missing portions of the Qur'an. Allah is the Author of the Qur'an and He has promised to preserve it. From the days of the prophet, to whom the Qur'an was revealed, men, women and children have memorised it. Some can recite the whole Qur'an from cover to cover. In all our 5 daily prayers, we always recite Surahs or verses of the Qur'an. This has been the tradition since the time of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
@@ahmedibrahimgarba4990 there is a Hadith talking about missing verses from Quran that were eaten by a goat : And which Quran version are you talking about there are over 40 different arabic qurans. Only 1 expl. diff verses in Hafs and Warsh Quran Quran riwaya of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh Quran 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more....1 is not the same as 3 or more.
...All different arabic Qurans
'1, Qaloon Qur'an
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN
26, Ruh QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
Al-Baqarah 2:23
وَإِن كُنتُمْ فِى رَيْبٍ مِّمَّا نَزَّلْنَا عَلَىٰ عَبْدِنَا فَأْتُوا۟ بِسُورَةٍ مِّن مِّثْلِهِۦ وَٱدْعُوا۟ شُهَدَآءَكُم مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ صَٰدِقِينَ
And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful.
Al-Baqarah 2:24
فَإِن لَّمْ تَفْعَلُوا۟ وَلَن تَفْعَلُوا۟ فَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱلنَّارَ ٱلَّتِى وَقُودُهَا ٱلنَّاسُ وَٱلْحِجَارَةُۖ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْكَٰفِرِينَ
But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.
@@bruce5744 because they pick some of its verses and ignore some..... Sad.
Satan accomplished this task in The Satanic Verses. Didn't you know that?
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what do the other 30 say?
@@neluroman555 that challenge is directed at mankind not a being who is objectively a far superior creation than you, he has made humanity believe he is a fairy tale why wouldn’t it be easy to convince them the Quran is too? Humans are foolish and many are ignorant of their mortal enemy. One day satan will denounce you of any relation and free himself only to leave you disgraced and humiliated, I wonder if you would be mocking like you are now?
In daily writing we still don’t use haraka in writing. If ur new to writing arabic you may need it to read it, but when u get proficient, you can do easily without it. It’s the way of writing in Arabic. Back in those days they didn’t use dots too. That was the way ppl wrote and understood just like we understand without haraka today. If ppl back then agreed that it was an efficient way for writing and run their lives/government/business/communications this why, why you have a problem with that? They communicated properly and that was the standard writing and it worked.
“Not one iota”. Meaning not even the smallest of dots. Either it has been changed or it hasn’t. Either Jesus is a prophet of God, whom can not lie when he said I Am the Messiah, or a prophet of God CAN lie and they are all suspect, including your pedophile Muhammad
Devil out of hell: are trying to justify that your god, Allah was deeply sleeping and let his ass Quran beaten up and changed by his scholars. Didn’t he say he will protect it day and night from being changed even a single word?🤔🙃
I like you.
1, Qaloon Qur'an
2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an
3,Khaled QUR'AN
4,Idrees QUR'AN
5,warsh Qur'an
6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
7,Al- Laith QUR'AN
8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an
9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN
10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN
11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN
12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an
13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN
14,Hisham QUR'AN
15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN
16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN
17,Sulayman QUR'AN
18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN
19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN
20,Qunbul Qur'an
21,Showba QUR'AN
22, Ruwais QUR'AN
23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN
24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN
25,Hafs QUR'AN
26, Ruh QUR'AN
27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN
28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN
29,khalf QUR'AN
30,Ishaq QUR'AN
31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN
32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN
Thanks you
Thank you
Are cotton candy and candy floss the same?
@@StarsFc578 Muslims say there is only 1 Quran but we have over 40 different arabic riwayat from different people. Every arabic Quran is named after the person who used that version. 1 expl. Verse counts for Hafs Quran are 6236; while Warsh Quran records 6214 Quran riwayah of Hafs 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer: 1. According to Warsh riwayah 2:184 how many poor people must you feed after missing a fast? Answer 3 or more (many) 1 or many ?
Riwayat is style of recitation @@SheikhAlladeen
Jay Smith,
Would you have Hatun release these somewhere as a series of side-by-side memes? These are GREAT for sharing with Muslims, and the meme is a great format for showing them in great quantity.
Flood social media with them.
i have both hafs and warch and sorry to bring it to you guys but it's the same but still share it, it would be a great meme you'll get laughed at really hard lol
@@verynice6295, It's rare that I catch someone lying, but you have been caught, my friend. The difference between the Hafs and the Warsh in Surah 3:146 is apparent even to non-native speaker. You can see the difference in diacritics. It is striking. Native speakers say the Hafs is active ("fought"), while the Warsh is passive ("was killed"). That is a difference in meaning, my friend. You will have to save your taqiyya for somebody else.
@@bowrudder899 ok so does that change the meaning of the verse?? you are in no position to answer cuz you don't speak arabic, ask someone with some knowledge in arabic and read the whole verse and ask him if that means the whole meaning of the verse changed, don't bring me diffrente tachkil and tell me the quran is corrupted show me the extra verses or the missing ones if you or your wannabe scholars can do that we can speak about this matter,
and btw i really don't know what does this taqiyya thing means XD
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"Inna Nahnu Nazzal'naz zikra wa'inna lahuu lahaafizoon."
Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.(al-qu ran15:9
why 7 different dialects if they were all in perfect arabic ?
@Omer Ahmed Hadi in the times of the Prophet ppl would recite the ayaat different and the Prophet would say this way is good and that way is also good.
The exact words were not important. 7 diffrerent ways of recitation means 7 different versions.Which one is in heaven with Allah he does not have 7 .
Also warsh Quran and hafs have different words and up to 30 different ayaat.Which is the correct one .Which is in heaven with Allah warsh or hafs ?
Which Quran was preserved like Allah said ?
al Ahqaf [46.12]: "When before it [the Quran] there was the Scripture of Moses, an example and a mercy; and this is a confirming Scripture in the Arabic language"
The Taurat predates the eternal Quran? without beginning or end; lasting forever; always existing ??? Is Allah wrong or the Quran was corrupted ?
@Omer Ahmed Hadi thanky ou for trying even if it is not your laguage. The point I was making is not about per-diction .They say Quran is eternal. If something is eternal it has no beginning and no end,so it would have been there before any other scripture but Allah said [46.12]: "When before it [the Quran] there was the Scripture of Moses, so Quran can not be "eternal" Allah must have the other scriptures before Quran also. Allah said in the Quran to Muhammad if you have doubts go ask the people of the scriptures
@Omer Ahmed Hadi that the Quran is uncreated - is the accepted stance among the majority Sunni Muslims.12th century Almoravid jurist Qadi Ayyad, citing the work of Malik ibn Anas, wrote that: He said about someone who said that the Qur'an is created, "He is an unbeliever, so kill him." He said in the version of Ibn Nafi', "He should be flogged and painfully beaten and imprisoned until he repents." If Quran was not created it had to exist even before the other scriptures,why was Quran not revealed before Torah and Gospel.
If the words of Allah in the Quran are true they would have existed before the Quran but before Quran there was Torah and Gospel
Amazing material. Clearly the early followers of Mohammed did not consider the Koran complete nor unchanged. When did the dangerous propaganda about it being the complete and unchanged word of God start? Not in the 9th century. Any ideas?
U guys are just insecure dudes. How is something changeable when its was memorized by most of the Prophet companion. Deep down u know Islam makes sense than your religion but you don't want to accept it.
Abdul Muumin Mutawakil how do you know it was memorised ? Or perhaps more was memorised and later burned.
@@stuarthastie6374 I know because from hadiths they were some people selected by the Prophet himself to write it down and as well as were the best and noble people who are mention in hadiths to have memorized the Quran at the time of the Prophet. Uthman was not the best at reciting the Quran he was just a leader who commanded the memorizers of the Quran to do the standardization of the Quran in one dialect of the Quran that's the Qurash dialect of the prophet.
Abdul Muumin Mutawakil those you say were selected by Mohamed. Were these duties and their name in the Koran ? How. long after the events were the Hadiths edited ? Weren’t they anyway HEARSAY evidence ? Aren’t the Hadiths completely self justifying ? Did Bukhari have scholarly command of Arabic being from a remote part of Persia?Why did Uthman destroy the evidence of the original Koranic manuscripts , including those he aptoved? Looks fishy ! Why did Omar deny Mohamed pen and paper on his death bed when he could have given a last will and testemnr, perhaps naming his successor.or final message from Allah ?
If allah wanted to send a rule book to humanity wouldn’t it write it a mile high across the sky with neon at night ?
Allah knows best that he is not Akbar and that he doesn’t actually exist.
they were misunderstanding among even at the time of the Prophet about which recitation of which of the Arabic dialects is correct. The prophet told those his companions who were having problems with how some other companions were reciting the Quran that the Quran was revealed into seven dialect of the Arabic language and that all of them were correct to be recited.
But after the Prophet and particularly at the time of Uthman they were fighting about which dialect is correct and him being a leader decided that the Quran should be standardized into Qurash dialect. He commanded those who memorized the Quran at the time of the Prophet to do it so after that he commanded his people to dispose any theirs and come and copy from the standardized one.
So till today we have one Quran in the Qurash language of the Prophet himself. Don't let the uniqueness of the Quran makes you think Uthman or any other companion removed or added something.
When something is memorized by many people nothing can change it.
Even if today if every copy of the Quran is burnt and all soft copy are lost the Quran can be reproduce without a single deviation in over 100 countries in the world because it's a promise by God to preserve it. Even some kids of age less than 12 have memorized the entire Quran. Denying the truth doesn't mean it's not the truth. May God guide the truthful and sincere heart.
We are 4 years later now and I noticed that the claim of the quran never having been changed to the letter and dot, is erased from the muslim list of arguments as I don't see it appear anymore in their comments.
They're literally still saying this lmdao
Excellent you're. Go on. Don't stop at this level
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Even though carbon dating of ink is a bad idea, why would it be wrong to carbon date the upper and lower inks to see what the difference in age was?(Sana'a manuscript) It seems like the average age of the ingredients would confirm the opinions of those dating a script based on historical habits of form and spelling. Was there a change in ink formulation? I think there is fear of an ambiguous outcome that could be exploited. If there is oil in an ink, that could be a real problem. I would like to know how these documents were erased. Did they use plain water or water and vinegar or some other means of removing the ink?
I'm going to give my opinion on this as a Muslim I'm not a Imam but what i can tell you is that this is false, first things first there are 10 different qiraat in the quraan i was not surprised by the fact that 31 qurans have "different" meanings if you look at the different qiraat you can see things such as the plural and singular are changed for better understanding let me give an example lets say you say "I walked the dog" if you are speaking in future tense you would say "I took the dog for a walk" the difference is Walk and Walked another example i can give thereof is in the Quraan , Suratul haqqah verse 9 "Do you see any of them left alive"
Or
"Then do you see of them any remains" if you look at that verse it has many meanings but is not different , Imams granted us qiraat so that you can understand the Quraan in a different way so it fits different peoples understanding or the way they comprehend , the quraan has many prophecies that came true , for example in Suratul Rūm The Romans verse 4 you can see it clearly states " Within three to nine years the whole matter rests with ALLAH Before and after victory.And on that day the believers will rejoice" this is only one of the many prophecies that came true ALLAH challenges such People that claim the Quran is false
And if you are in doubt of what we sent down Upon our servant (Muhammad), Then produce a surah like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than ALLAH , If you should be truthful 2:23 Al Quraan
Subhan Allah ❤️🤲
Those are not variant texts but variant pronaunciations
@Bj D sounds like the new testament. Also corrupted.
@Bj D I am not muslim or Christian. But why try to dig at the muslims claim. I thought Christians are supposed to be better than that. At least muslims do not have 40,000 denominations. It's not christians place to do textual criticism against the koran. It's clear these are variant pronunciations from different quranic recitations. Due to the fact each significant quranic reciter is from various countries like nafi al- madani is from Persia, and some were from iraq or hijaz saudi arabia. Any person who speaks arabic knowns there are some words that have different meanings. Like in spanish there are words used that have different meanings between latin american countries verse spain. To end the video with come join Christianity is so hypocritical.
@Bj D Lets keep in mind that Christian countries are the most anti-Semitic. Second, if your question on Nazism implying is eurocentrism toxic and destructive to humanity and towards planet, I would have to agree. Lets look at the destructive force Europeans have done to the world who are supposedly Christians. It is one thing to point out what the Koran says but hypocritical to not look at the actions of Christian nations whom have supposedly been following the Christ and then kill in his name. I think your liberal perspective on pointing violence in the Quran shows how narrow minded you are toward the new testament.
Didn't Jesus say “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10:34).
How about in Luke 12:49-53? Is it not written "I came to cast fire on the earth, and would that it were already kindled! I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how great is my distress until it is accomplished! Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”
These would be the words of your lord and savior correct?
How is the scripture you referenced any different from Deut 17:1-5?
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Better yet, how is it different from Deut 13:6-16?
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. 12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt.
Please stop being a hypocrite.
@Bj D Lets keep in mind that Christian countries are the most anti-Semitic. Second, if your question on Nazism implying is eurocentrism toxic and destructive to humanity and towards planet, I would have to agree. Lets look at the destructive force Europeans have done to the world who are supposedly Christians. It is one thing to point out what the Koran says but hypocritical to not look at the actions of Christian nations whom have supposedly been following the Christ and then kill in his name. I think your liberal perspective on pointing violence in the Quran shows how narrow minded you are toward the new testament.
Didn't Jesus say “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10:34).
How about in Luke 12:49-53? Is it not written "I came to cast fire on the earth, and would that it were already kindled! I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how great is my distress until it is accomplished! Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”
How is the scripture you referenced any different from Deut 17:1-5?
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Better yet, how is it different from Deut 13:6-16?
6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. 12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in 13 that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. 16 You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt.
Please stop being a hypocrite.
I like this video very much. Its a great revelation about the confusions in n among the korans. Not easy to get all of the different versions but your videos like this one help tremendously.
an Arabic speaker here, there are no differences dude these are qiraat differences, or recitations. for a native speaker the dots don't matter. most of us dont even write with the ahruf bro we can read and write without them🤦♂️ living in some wonderland
@billybro1403 But it was written from Allah the writings have to be the same but it ain't
@@billybro1403 Dots don't matter really?
I think نشرا in Hafs not the same as بشرا in Warsh isn't it? I thought the claim was not even a letter has changed in the Quran, now the narrative changed ha?
P.S Another Native speaker here, Stop lying dude it's embarrassing to say that in Arabic, dots don't matter as out of the 28 Arabic letters (if there are no dots) only 6 of them you can identify :D
It's very clear that Quran is not word to word & letter to letter preserved as it was claimed by Muslim scholars and Allah himself in Quran.
If you really have this evidence, please can you clearly indicate verses in which they vary? Can you also please educate us how the Quran is easy to memorize for its preservation?
Sadie LoveGod, THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, MUHAMMAD IS ALLAH'S MESSENGER.
I think you guys are only reacting. You are not answering my question. It's a fact that millions of Muslims have the Quran written on their tongues. My questions were simply:
1. How can this memorization be explained.
2. Which comparative verses of the Quran vary?
Since the Hadith is ORAL TRADITION, and separated from the Quran, we cannot use the stories quoted in hadith as absolute truth. For example; if there is a law or statement in Kbuhari not found in Quran, no Muslim regards that statement in the hadith as true.
By the way, I believe in Jesus. I just want to be responsibly educated but it seems SPIRITUALITY has become second Type of Politics in human existence.
Thanks
@@a-hsadikahmed2007 how do you write quran on tongue 😂😂😂 it was simply memorise because it's was a poetry
@@orladavine4206 its poetic. Don't be a fool
You are very brave to reveal this.
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They speak TRUTH. It's awesome! There is no braveness in TRUTH. =)
And you are very stupid to believe this 😂
Kissing a black stone is pagan also. I mean isnt it obvious
You lot are scared? Don’t be. Be yourself
Brave to lie. I know a liar when I see when. Tell me: is cotton candy and candyfloss the same?
"It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'"Grade: Hasan (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 326
In-book reference : Book 2, Hadith 2
Jesus is the greatest.
Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ is the
WORD OF GOD, MADE FLESH
Obviously the Qur'an is not the
word of God.
@@here_we_go_again3300 lol and the fuck of christian
@Maester Auron
Yeshua?
@Maester Auron
Esau ?
What?
Esau means hairy
Yeshua means To rescue,
From word
Yod Shin vav/waw Ayin.
The most documented event in history is Christ’s death. Yet a man living 600 miles away who couldn’t read nor write said it didn’t happen. Ask any Muslim to prove it through history. Oooops!
Unfortunately, Christ's death is not documented at all in history. Nothing - nothing in Josephus, anecdotes decades after His death, aka nothing unless the Pauline letters count. Islam accepts that He lived, not that He died and ascended and not that He is the son of God, i think
Eternity Please excuse me, but where?
@Eternity Christ's death is nowhere near the most documented event in history. Christ's death has been questioned in peer review. Compared to the death of say President Kennedy the evidence for Christ's death is terrible Half of the New testament was written by liars and a man who had symptoms of mental illness. No one knows who wrote the other half.
@Eternity The Roman's said nothing about it. As far as the Jews go Josephus was decades later and forged. And as far as the Christians go read my last reply. So before rudely insinuating that I am embarrassing myself presets some facts that are correct. Which will be hard as the sources of biblical history are terrible and vague. All you have are the letters of a man with the symptoms of mental illness Paul. And his forgers.
@The Astronomer There is not "plenty" of evidence Jesus was crucified. This was a region where dying and rising gods were a thing. The fact that the Jews suddenly got their own is very coincidental. And which Jesus? The superhero Jesus or the Joe Blow Jesus? It all gets back to Paul and his forgers. A man with symptoms of mental illness and and a few liars. This is not plenty of evidence.
Luckily, i saw some sculptures on the rock house in Petra - Dushara with two snakes and an eagle, the most meaningful symbols in many religions in the world. For your reference.
House of Commons Report of the British Parliament titled "UK Aid to Pakistan" You may read the full report on google. The summary is given below.
A British Parliamentary committee has blamed the Pakistan Government for persecuting religious minorities such as Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Budhists and Ahmadi Muslims and published a report. Religious minorities are accused of blasphemy which results in mob killings and they face obstacles in freely practicing their religion and continue to face discrimination and violence within Pakiatan society.
There are 40 different militant groups operating in Pakistan, with some 40000 militants in the country.
Women from religious minorities who wear clothes according to their religious and cultural background experience targeted harrassment. Minority women also face abduction, trafficking and child and forced marriage. Around 1000 minority women and girls have been forcibly converted to Islam and married each year in Pakistan each year during the last five six years.
As a speaker of another language other then English i totally agree. Accent marks, glottal marks so on & so forth even periods & commas are very important. Not using the correct accent mark can totally change a word therefore changing or corrupting the whole sentence therefore corrupting the whole message.
this version of Arabic was the standard at the time of Muhammad pbuh.
they wrote poetry and all sorts of literature without dotting or marks(tashkeel).
because it was their mother tongue and they knew how to read it very very well without a single misunderstanding.
when people from different countries started joining Islam, they started putting those dots and marks to make them able to distinguish because they don't even know the words or the grammar how would they figure it out themselves.
Emz N & your sources are ????
@@faanengaaw7357 Search it up and idk because we know there is one standard and when you go to arabic speaking countries there are no marks because it is the native tongue. My dad can read arabic with and without the marks. I may recognize the letters but i wont know how to say it so i would need those marks in order to recite the quran properly. There is only one way
@@thephoenix7090 thats not what researchers say.
@@faanengaaw7357 idk what researchers u know but we muslims know that there is one standard established by uthman
As an arabic Muslim after listening to you lam more believer that Quran is the only unaltered book from Allah.. you had to be Arabian to understand what you are taking about .. what you think differences in our language are the same .. dots are important to those whom don't good in Arabic grammar
Refutated a whole lot of nothing. The evidence in front of you, in ARABIC too. Literally the guy next to him is Arabic. Stay ignorant and see how far that takes you.
Let them keep twisting and deceiving themselves
you show me only 2 differents qur'an, now that you have 32 differents this is a challenge to you. in real life.
Can you put the list of the By name and also tell us where we can buy them?.
Hope Sister Hatum Tash will help others also also to procure these books so that they can also use for apologetic.
Up this
Are these 31 Qurans available somewhere online for comparison?
www.daralfiker.com you can get them here
@Omer Ahmed Hadi this is a bookstore and you can order up to 24 different arabic Quran you can pay with PayPal like I did they will send it really fast, You can choose which Quran you like better
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@Omer Ahmed Hadi with few exceptions, Islamic revelations do not state which Quranic verses or hadith have been abrogated, and Muslim exegetes and jurists have disagreed over which and how many hadith and verses of the Quran are recognized as abrogated, with estimates varying from less than ten to over 500.
Other issues of disagreement include whether the Quran can be abrogated by the Sunnah or vice versa - a disagreement between the Shafi'i and Hanafi schools of fiqh; and whether verses of the Quran may be abrogated at all, instead of reinterpreted and more narrowly defined - an approach favored by a minority of scholars.
Muslims do no even agree on what was abrogated big confusion everywhere .The story of Islam eternal confusion
@@SheikhAlladeen only one Quran
3:45 Actually even haa (ه) needs dotting when located at the end of words, for example:
كره : he hated
كرة : sphere or ball
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HERE is the post mortem of all these jokers
now this is funny
This has to be funny
If a ha has dotting then its a ta
@Jy Ks u proving fact ulhamdulillah.
Hello. I have a question. What about the al azar version? The 1923 version of al azar is autoritative to the muslim, from wich coran it come from?
U guys don't want Muslims scholars who have degrees and all high levels certificates in Islamic studies for this mere guys who can't even construct a a good sentence in Arabic. Every single day Islam is gaining more followers than Christianity and u are claiming its collapsing. Look at the way u worship God and look at the Islam way, look at how Muslims unites each other to perform pilgrimage in mecca. This is my whatsapp line if u want to prove me why Christianity/Catholism is better religion compare to Islam. +233500978153
Hafs
cant see the charts and cant translate properly.. please help, pl provide charts with big letters.. the hafse differs with ... other versions.. how many times.. etc.
chrustins: 3 = 1
also crustins how can the 31 quran be the same
My friend, I have TWO different Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. So I hold the evidence that there are more than one version of the quran. You have been lied to my friend. But please my friend, do NOT believe me. Go and buy a hafs quran and a warsh quran (they are the most popular) in ARABIC and compare them. You do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between just these two versions of the quran. So will you accept my challenge and buy these two qurans or will you keep on believing the islamic fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved quran my friend?
@@johnzuma4688 ill keep believing the Islamic fairy tale.
There are some of them who ˹pretend to˺ listen to your recitation ˹of the Quran˺, but We have cast veils over their hearts-leaving them unable to comprehend it-and deafness in their ears. Even if they were to see every sign, they still would not believe in them. The disbelievers would ˹even˺ come to argue with you, saying, “This ˹Quran˺ is nothing but ancient fables!” -6:25
@@johnzuma4688 it’s the same Quran unlike your 3=1 where it’s all three completely different beings. The Quran is one complete book, all with the exact same climax “Allah is one so worship him and obey him alone..” which you Christians find impossible. It’s not like it’s a different book with a completely different meaning and message dont be reductive when you say 2 different is the overall message different is one book contradicting the other? Is the book telling you different laws, commandments, jurisprudence, signs etc? You have failed to convince me and your challenge is weak to prove your point that it is TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BOOKS. Lies that is all you have because your understanding is weak . You don’t want to understand because it would go against your confirmed bias. Willful ignorance is a disease to your reasoning and intelligence. The first thing Allah tells us to do is read by proxy of the revelation first revealed to Muhammad pbuh. Go read and may Allah remove the veil from your heart.
You calculated off target : it should be 301 + or - 30 to be at 99% confidence level. All have the same common eternal truth : ONE God who does not morph into nothing or three or three millions.
quran is morphing enough not to trust anything about your god. if he, who promised to protect his word, failed, what other promises won't he fulfill?
I was lied to in my childhood about the preservation of the quran
Tell me you didnt watch the video without telling me you didnt watch the video
@@hayfas.a.4450 So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all of islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
So tell me, why do you even believe that you will be with GOD in heaven on judgement day when you follow Mohammed? And do show the quran verses on which you base your belief.
They want to extinguish the light of God with their mouths, and God will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it
يريدون ليطفئوا نور الله بأفواههم والله متم نوره ولو كره الكافرون
All the happy Christians here not knowing that there bible has been changed more than the Quran (which the words have never been changed)
Yo-yo 123 but the Quran has differences so it’s just as fake?
Besançon 321 actually in Arabic the meaning of the word does not change bc of the difference of the dots. Quran has always meant the same thing despite the dots
unlike you people, Christians only care about the message, they don't memorize it and say it's literal. the Bible has been translated you know, and nobody made the claim that these are the exact words that God used unlike the Quran, And, by the way, there are multiple differences in words between the different Qurans
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@yo-yo1233 bro. But the dots result in different letters and therefore different words with different meaning. Don't you know how Arabic or any language for that matter works?
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly :
you should note, may Allaah bless you, that the Qur’aan was revealed in one style at the beginning, but the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kept asking Jibreel until he taught him seven styles, all of which were complete. The evidence for that is the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Abbaas who narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Jibreel taught me one style and I reviewed it until he taught me more, and I kept asking him for more and he gave me more until finally there were seven styles.”
(narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3047; Muslim, 819)
Secondly, what is meant by styles (ahruf, sing. harf)?
The best of the scholarly opinions concerning what is meant is that there are seven ways of reciting the Qur’aan, where the wording may differ but the meaning is the same; if there is a different meaning then it is by way of variations on a theme, not opposing and contradiction.
Thirdly:
Some of the scholars said that what was meant by ahruf was the dialects of the Arabs, but this is far-fetched, because of the hadeeth of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab who said: “I heard Hishaam ibn Hakeem reciting Soorat al-Furqaan in a manner different from that in which I used to recite it and the way in which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught me to recite it. I was about to argue with him whilst he was praying, but I waited until he finished his prayer, and then I tied his garment around his neck and seized him by it and brought him to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, I heard this man reciting Soorat-al-Furqaan in a way different to the way you taught it to me.’ The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to him, ‘Recite it,’ and he recited it as I had heard him recite it. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘It was revealed like this.’ Then he said to me, ‘Recite it,’ so I recited it and he said, ‘It was revealed like this.’ This Qur'aan has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easiest for you.’”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2287; Muslim, 818)
It is known that Hishaam was Asadi Qurashi (i.e., from the clan of Bani Asad in Quraysh) and ‘Umar was ‘Adawi Qurashi (i.e., from the clan of Bani ‘Adiyy in Quraysh). Both of them were from Quraysh and Quraysh had only one dialect. If the difference in ahruf (styles) had been a difference in dialects, why would two men of Quraysh have been different?
The scholars mentioned nearly forty different opinions concerning this matter! Perhaps the most correct is that which we have mentioned above. And Allaah knows best.
Fourthly:
It seems that the seven styles were revealed with different wordings, as indicated by the hadeeth of ‘Umar, because ‘Umar’s objection was to the style, not the meaning. The differences between these styles are not the matter of contradiction and opposition, rather they are synonymous, as Ibn Mas’ood said: “It is like one of you saying halumma, aqbil or ta’aal (all different ways of saying ‘Come here’).”
Fifthly:
With regard to the seven recitations (al-qiraa’aat al-saba’), this number is not based on the Qur’aan and Sunnah, rather it is the ijtihaad of Ibn Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him). People thought that al-ahruf al-saba’ (the seven styles) were al-qiraa’aat al-saba’ (the seven recitations) because they happened to be the same number. But this number may have come about coincidentally, or it may have been done deliberately by Ibn Mujaahid to match what was narrated about the number of styles (ahruf) being seven. Some people thought that the styles (ahruf) were the recitations, but this is a mistake. No such comment is known among the scholars. The seven recitations are one of the seven styles, and this is the style that ‘Uthmaan chose for all the Muslims.
Sixthly:
When ‘Uthmaan made copies of the Qur’aan, he did so according to one style (harf), but he omitted the dots and vowel points so that some other styles could also be accommodated. So the Mus-haf that was copied in his time could be read according to other styles, and whatever styles were accommodated by the Mus-haf of ‘Uthmaan remained in use, and the styles that could not be accommodated fell into disuse. The people had started to criticize one another for reciting differently, so ‘Uthmaan united them by giving them one style of the Qur’aan.
Seventhly:
Your saying that Mujaahid’s different recitations meant the seven styles (ahruf) is not correct, as was said by Shaykh al-Islam ibn Taymiyyah. (Majmoo’ah al-Fatawa, vol. 13, p. 210)
Eighthly:
The seven readers or reciters were:
1-Naafi’ al-Madani
2-Ibn Katheer al-Makki
3-‘Aasim al-Kufi
4-Hamzah al-Zayaat al-Kufi
5-Al-Kisaa’i al-Kufi
6-Abu ‘Amr ibn al-‘Ala’ al-Basri
7-‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Aamir al-Shaami
The ones who have the strongest isnaad in recitation are Naafi’ and ‘Aasim.
The most eloquent are Abu ‘Amr and al-Kisaa’i.
Warsh and Qaaloon narrated from Naafi’.
Hafs and Shu’bah narrated from ‘Aasim.
And Allaah knows best.
Admit the fact that there not a single qur an!!
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@@Good-advocate Then why is there only one English translation of the Quran why aren't there 31 different translation.
Good explanation. 👍
Whoever has watched this video and many like it, I urge you to use your intellect....He said there that according to carbondating, this book predates Muhammad (peace be upon him), then how can it be addressing him and his people, and guiding them on what to do....how???
So does he want to mean that someone before Muhammad (peace be upon him) sat down and wrote sth for a specific group of pple to follow??
Intellectually....does that make sense to you...
The Quran is real
The pre-islamic parts are old Christians stories for which we have evidence that they existed long before Mohammed was even born.
[2:6] Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.
[2:7] Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them.
[6:110] And We will turn their hearts and their sights, even as they did not believe in it the first time, and We will leave them in their inordinacy, blindly wandering on.
@Learn Christianity Albanian i don't get it you are a christian ? but you have israil photo ?
weird things going on here !!
oh and btw allah is your GOD you just insulting him xD
allah is only the word arabic for the one true GOD
because allah has no gender it's plural it can't be male or female
@Job 1:21 i'm quoting this from the verses in the Quran man
i did show you the verse number you can go see for yourself :)
as for GOD sets a sickness upon hearts
you know nothing here it is look who are the people that GOD gave them sickness upon theur hearts
*I HOPE YOU READ ALL OF THIS TO UNDERSTAND*
Quran 2:6-18
Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers.They [think to] deceive Allah and those who believe, but they deceive not except themselves and perceive [it] not.In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers."Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.And when it is said to them, "Believe as the people have believed," they say, "Should we believe as the foolish have believed?" Unquestionably, it is they who are the foolish, but they know [it] not.And when they meet those who believe, they say, "We believe"; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, "Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers."[But] Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression [while] they wander blindly.Those are the ones who have purchased error [in exchange] for guidance, so their transaction has brought no profit, nor were they guided.Their example is that of one who kindled a fire, but when it illuminated what was around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness [so] they could not see.Deaf, dumb and blind - so they will not return [to the right path].
@Job 1:21 man i can't understand you !!!
you see who are these people who GOD punish them in the earth and in the hereafter ?
i alredy send you the verse
@Job 1:21 the Quran is not corrupted man why we lie to each other
we alredy know how the bible got corrupted by the romans
as for Quran
there is a wisdom for saving it from corruption
in our daily prayers we pray 5 times a day
we must read some surah and verses
we memorize the Quran
average people memorize the Quran
as for our imams they must memorize all the chapters in the Quran
so there is no way it can be corrupted
i swear i swear if i add some word in uncommun verse in the bible no one will notice or if i remove some verse in the bible no one will notice
no one until now no priest no average christians claim that he memorize the bible !!!
why you don't memorize the bible isn't the word of GOD ?
you don't want to memorize all the chapters in the bible !!!
dude the bible the new testement are fairly tailes are stories people made it up for jesus !!!!! i swear
what i mean about corruption dosn't mean that all the bible is false no
if you just remove one verse in a holy book that mean it is corrupted
so yeah the story of jesus is corrupted
as for Quran all the verses are advice from GOD we memorize the word of GOD
why no christian or priest memorize the bible !!!! if it is the actual word of GOD !!
the bible is just a story not advices it's 80% the life of jesus no one knows that it's true
search what the romans empire did to the bible in the council of nacia
stop being arrogant man
they remove a verse and add some word for their own benefits
why they chose the name of the gospels to be that is true !! no one knows !
why there is only the gospel of mark mattheuw luke and john ??!!
you wana tell me there is no other gospels ?
why do you think that the gospel of mark luke mattheuw and john and the 100% true !! and the others are false !!!!
i mean what is this nonsense !!,??
@Job 1:21 a simple example
jesus never said i'm GOD or worship me
christians worship jesus
jesus said i of myself can do nothing
christians took it as nothing he couldn't do
jesus used to sleep and eat
GOD dont sleep or eat
jesus is in the womb for 9 mounth
GOD don't need to be in a womb !!!!!
jesus used to pray
GOD don't pray
jesus always say our father
he never says mine
he always say my father and your father
simple things are just a metaphor
people took it seriously and missleading them
let me ask you why there is so many gospels ?
are there is so many gospels now not in the bible ?
who tell them that's not true gospel !!!
Thank you Lord for making me a Christian✝️
All praise to the Word Made Flesh!!!
Damp
@@hakhamanesh_2582 inspired by Satan?
Mate, I wouldn't trust him, he invented death.
thanks God for making me Muslim
I don't see the differences here....theme is the same.
Well done and thank you for the series..God Bless you both..Love as always..Grace and Peace of my Lord to you.
Gedaliah god isn't real, moron.
@@Pignificent Why are atheists like you so hateful? You never see Christians going out of their way to insult a atheist. Why?
U guys don't want Muslims scholars who have degrees and all high levels certificates in Islamic studies for this mere guys who can't even construct a a good sentence in Arabic. Every single day Islam is gaining more followers than Christianity and u are claiming its collapsing. Look at the way u worship God and look at the Islam way, look at how Muslims unites each other to perform pilgrimage in mecca. This is my whatsapp line if u want to prove me why Christianity/Catholism is better religion compare to Islam. +233500978153
Muslims, we Christians don't have any hatred to Muslims or atheist or other religions. If we help, we don't care what religion they have. If we comment against muslims, it doesn't mean we hate them. Only few Christians who aren't real Christians like that. We just want to pray to the real God. As Muslims, have you ever thought why your Quran uses prophets, kings from Isaac's lineage. It doesn't mean we are arrogant. But it should be prophets, kings from Ishamel's lineage to be written in Quran for the most. You should realise that there is a big mistake here. What us written in the Bible is true that God gave His perpetual Covenant to Isaac, not to Ishmael. That's why great prophets and kings were all from Isaac's lineage. In the history, Midian ( the location was in Saudi Arabia) was defeated by bani Israel with God's help because they prayed to Baal. Two kings, Zebal and Salmuna who were from Ishmael's lineage were killed by Israel. So how come, there was another prophet, Muhammad whom Muslims believe chosen by God from Ishmael's lineage?
@@abdulmumiin
IZLM the fastest dying religion even your scholars say SO
Amazing brothers thank you your reward is from the Lord ❤
What a shame for such people who knowingly try to prove word of Allah is not HIS word.
Allah is challenging you in Quran, produce something which is like Quran
Smallest Surah ( chapter) have just 3 verses and since the prophet (1475 years) you guys can not produce 3 verses matching it ( neither you will neither anyone can, even if you and all Satan's sit together.
Right✔
Jay and Al, please do a series on the verses of the Quran which were borrowed from non inspired text.
Great work and God bless!
jay jay Well it's not easily picked apart if you are killed for questioning it.
God bless!
jay jay, THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, MUHAMMAD IS ALLAH'S MESSENGER.
Dr.Aleem Quraishi What proof do you have that Mohamed's private revelations were authentic? It seems to me like you have blind faith in a book with zero proof. Besides, we know Mohamed borrowed all his stories, the only ones he made up himself were self serving revelations like the one which allowed his to have more wives of gave him 1/5 of the booty. Brilliant military man and dictator but a holy man he was not.
God bless!
JoeL landry, no reply, no logical answer, but repeated recitation: THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, MUHAMMAD IS ALLAH'S MESSENGER.
JoeL landry, THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, MUHAMMAD IS ALLAH'S MESSENGER.
The book cover varies from countries to countries but the contents are the same. This shows that Jay Smith is weak in making comparison. Shame on you. This is an insult to the PhD of Jay Smith.
bruh this guy is a clown i am actually laughing so hard right now at the video he thinks he is smart but he is actually an idiot.
@@johnbravo1317 ...please you gently..but our LORD Jesus Christ says: "...whoever calls another human being "idiot", is guilty ( before allmighty God and men); in his divine authority! Matthew 5, Verse 22. According to the Qur'an, the Thora and the Gospel were revealed by allmighty God!
May God bless you.
Holy Grace you mean according to the quraan these books where revealed from our God(allah) to our prophets Jesus and Moses
This comment is an insult to your brain, coz the issue here is of textual variants, letters, meanings being different. Nothing to do with covers.🙄.
The western scholarship pretty much concluded that these claims are hot air.
Being able to compare the 31 mushaf online side by side, highlighting the variations, would be very valuable. Some Muslims think the books simply have different covers.
Also is there any critical scholarship to call into question the hadith that supports 7 different qiraat? I suspect it was invented a later date to deal with these kinds of problems. In the story one man is violently pedantic about correct recitation, but nobody else in Arabia needed to clarify this issue? A bit suspicious.
@5115strike ibn tabari didn't believe there were 7 legitimate qiraat. His student was the first guy to propose which readings were the 7 legit ones. And that proposal was criticised at the time.
And that hadith about the "investigate" or "prove" didn't turn up until the 9th century.
@5115strike ibn Mujahid.
This video discusses the way qiraat evolved from being considered manmade errors of transmission to divinely appointed readings. ua-cam.com/video/6tTk7F1gXkU/v-deo.html
@5115strike also this vid at about 9 min and 17 min discusses Mujahid and that specific hadith. ua-cam.com/video/wXdfjqFeFJw/v-deo.html
If you want to evaluate books based on the time we have extant copied of them, I'm pretty sure we don't have any copies of Bukhari until from at least the 11th century, and compete works until something like the 15-16th century.
We have the writings of other scholars discussing bukhari earlier, but we don't have the text itself. Similarly we don't have compete gospels from the 1st century but we know they were being talked about, quoted and sermonised on.
But where is there any evidence or conversation about Mohammad approving multiple readings from before bukhari?
Link
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Thanks to Almighty ALLAH for guiding me in the right path... O, guys... Even if you guys trying to prove there more than million variants in the Quran... It doesn't make any changes... Because these are just different reading methods... I am much impressed with Quran after watching this video for for its miracle structure... Even though Al Fadhi and J. Smith said in the beginning there are significant variation... But could not prove even a single significant variants... But only specific things such as Malik and Maalik... We Muslims already know this reading methods exists... The cure chore meaning is fully still exist... That's the beauty...
"You cannot guide whom you love, but Allah guides whomever He Pleases. And He best knows those who would accept guidance." (Quran 28:56)
Reading methods? There are differences in the basic consonants themselves. This means they cannot be simply variants of one basic consonant-only original. The variants appeared later.
@jay jay
Brother, Malik and Maalik are part of 99 names of ALMIGHTY CREATOR... He is the KING and He is the OWNER... This reading methods were existed at the time of our Beloved Prophet and he permitted to do so and that's the beauty of Arabic language... And We have so many Hadith recorded in Hadith books on regarding this... In Bible there are many Fabricated verses added many centuries after the Christ....
(( # )) 1 John 5:7 is a sixteenth century lie to justify trinity with no manuscript proof still exist in the Bible... Pity Christians believers were fooled to BELIEVE it as a word God...
(( # )) Mark 16:9-20 .... Is another FABRICATION.... Still you all following it...
No where found in your early manuscripts... Challenge you to provide atleast 4th century manuscripts... No you guys will never will be able to... Ask your scholars...
(( # )) The story of adulteress Gospel of John 7:53-8:11 too was a fifth century fabrication... The early manuscripts do not have this story... I challenge you if any of you bring atleast third century manuscripts as a proof... I will not discuss anything about Christianity hereafter with anyone... Please I beg you to take my challenge....
There are many other verses researched and found by your own scholars as INTERPOLATIONS, CONCOCTIONS...
yes, and both are trace back to prophet muhammad, both are acceptable.
Akram Ameer Allah is guiding you to hell. Allah is satan and muhamed a false prophet. The Quran is a pagan book
imu70 do you have a pencil? Can you put a line on a paper? Here you just created something. But there is only one Creator that creates out of nothing.
Your second verse reference is just off. Getting out of context rly. You can't make up ways to apply scripture like that. You are not in a scrapyard, can't randomly try to put things together and make something.. maybe if you would read some verses before that one or after you would understand better.
Actually we have 14 types of recitation of Quran and we have more than millions of qaris who memorized all recitations! These books for recitations as it was mentioned on the covers of the books and even they are not contradicting one to another! But Bible has many contradictions, differences and it is word of historians and some liars!
My friend, I have TWO different Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. So I hold the evidence that there are more than one version of the quran. You have been lied to my friend.
But please my friend, do NOT believe me. Go and buy a hafs quran and a warsh quran (they are the most popular) in ARABIC and compare them. You do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between just these two versions of the quran. So will you accept my challenge and buy these two qurans or will you keep on believing the islamic fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved quran my friend?
@@johnzuma4688 you are totally misguided! Warsh and Hafs are types of recitation they are not Quran! You have zero knowledge about Quran, you don’t even have idea about Warsh and Hafs! You are calling them Quran 🤣🤣🤣 Warsh and Hafs are types of recitations, that’s it! And in Arabic we use vowel symbols like fat’ha, kasra and dhammah only to learn recitations! Arabic can be read without vowel symbols! Don’t pretend to have knowledge about it, you are zero like these two biases! You don’t have idea what is Warsh and what is Hafs!!!!
@@johnzuma4688 and Islam is not fairy tale, Christianity is fairy tale with its debunked bible! Quran is preserved but Bible not
@@amonov_hh As the hafs Quran and warsh Quran are the most used versions of the Quran they are the ones usually compared. You will find that number of verses in Hafs is 6236, while Warsh has only 6214 verses.
In Surah Al imran 3:146 in the hafs Quran it states “And many a prophet fought” and in the warsh Quran it states “And many a prophet was killed”.
In verse 2:184, the Hafs Quran reads the verse to be "... a ransom [as substitute] of feeding a poor person...". On the other hand, the Warsh Quran reads it "... a ransom [as substitute] of feeding poor people..."
Logically prophets being killed is not the same meaning as prophets fighting and feeding one is different in meaning from feeding many. Clearly we have two different versions of the quran here which proves that the qurans (plural) have not been perfectly preserved.
Differences between hafs and warsh Quran.
www.free-minds.org/sites/default/files/WhichQuran.pdf
@@amonov_hh The hafs quran states in Surah 3:3 that the Torah and the Gospel were revealed by God. That logically makes them the Word of God as that is how God reveals. We then see in surah 6:115 that Mohammed tells us that none can change the Word of God. So logically according to the quran the Torah and the Gospel we have today must be the same as the original Torah and the Gospel revealed by God. If not, then that makes the quran false.
And of course we see in Surah 5:47 that Mohammed tells the Christians to judge by the Gospel which of course only makes sense if the Gospel the Christians had at the time of Mohammed was the correct one. And of course we know that the Gospel used by Christians at the time of Mohammed teaches the same message as the Gospel we use today.
And from the Dead Sea Scrolls we know that God teaches the same the Torah today as He teaches in Torah more than 2000 years ago. So according to the hafs quran the Bible we have today is correct and is the same as the original. If that is not true, then the quran must be false.
This means if the quran is correct, then Bible (Torah and Gospel) are correct which makes Mohammed a false prophet as the Bible teaches us that someone who behaved like Mohammed is a false prophet. On the other hand if the Bible has been changed, then the quran must be false which means that Mohammed was a false prophet. Either way, Mohammed was a false prophet.
23. And if you are in doubt about what We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a chapter like these, and call your witnesses apart from God, if you are truthful.
24. But if you do not-and you will not-then beware the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.
25. And give good news to those who believe and do righteous deeds; that they will have gardens beneath which rivers flow. Whenever they are provided with fruit therefrom as sustenance, they will say, “This is what we were provided with before,” and they will be given the like of it. And they will have pure spouses therein, and they will abide therein forever.
Thank you for sharing. However, how can I access all these different versions? I want to see how truly different each Quran is. Thank you! God bless!
@5115strike Then I wanna see for myself.
still the root words are same. and the core message is delivered. though the variations of Quran it was done intentionally for the convenient of Quran recitation. But the fact is still the main concept of every verse remained same. we could have said that Quran is changed if the root word was changed. Like in British and American English "color" and "colour", "defence" vs "defense".. still the meaning same.. here the presenter intentionally presented "color" has a different meaning than "colour" . Even though, the core message remained the same in this video where they showed the verse variations. You can study it on the dictionary of Arabic-English Lexicon by Edward William Lane.
-Thanks
On very first day of its revelation from Gibreel,memorisation of Quran started
Prophet Muhammad is first Hafiz of Quran
With regards to paper binding book form developed in sahaba period
I just did my own research and did my own reading of 5 copies of the Quran from different countries and publishers and I carefully analyzed several surat and I found them all to be 100% identical without any sign of corruption. In conclusion this video is debunked please do your own research and own analysis instead of watching confirmation bias.
Maybe you are doing your research while sleeping.
Even here in Indonesia the ulama know there different versions of Quran.
Heres the video :
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These are the examples of the differences :
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsh#Warsh_recitation
Ignorant is bliss.
Thank you! People don’t want to do the research and just criticize.
That's not how 'research' works. The claim is that there are dozens of various versions. You say you picked up 5 random quarans and they were the same, therefore, his argument is invalid?
Your conclusion is incorrect.
Of course its all the same because what you read are all modern version lmao
Did you have these 5 countries people around you and from whom you got 5 different Qurans?
Psalm 120 says much about the background on which Islam is built on. Lies
This is marvelous. Keep up the good work brothers.
It's not fair. The reason why quran can't be corrupted is because it has been memorized by millions across the globe.
Abdul Muumin Mutawakil it’s totally fair- for centuries Muslims have been calling the Bible corrupt. Now, we can put the Quran under the same tests. It fails miserably
@TrustMeImAScientist1 this is the history of the standardization of the Holy Quran in Islamic books for over 1000 years. Whether you accept it or not I dunno since u can prove to me from Islam sources that they were some verses that were burnt or was change. How can a book memorized change. I don't know the crazy thinking of u guys.
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SOCIAL MEDIA Stop fooling yourself. Wake up.
2:20 The guy claims to be an ex Saudi Salafi Muslim scholar. Yet, he doesn't know what the diacritical marks stand for...
Fat'hah = a
Dhammah = u
Kasrah = i
Oh my God, this basic lesson is even understood by non Arab Muslim children, that have just started to learn how to recite the Holy Qur'an. 😂
9:25 The 3rd verse from the first chapter (Surat ul Faatihah) of the Holy Qur'an, which we recite 'daily' for at least "20 times" in the "five daily prayers" has been labelled, of "THE FOURTH CHAPTER (Surat un Nisa)"! Even a two year child knows this. His Qur'anic expertise is literally…😂
My friend, you are the one who is showing his ignorance here. The diacritical marks are the dots and stripes to show the difference between b, n, i, th, etc. the letters you have shown are the vowels which even today is usually not used in a text whereas the diacritical marks are. So yes, even a beginner in Arabic knows these differences which makes me wonder why you don't even know that little bit. By the way in minute 2:00 they are explained.
I Muslim pupil can read and recite Quran with any assistance and in whatever Qiraa'aa. There are no versions in Quran but ways of recitations. Though versions of Bible are very different and sometimes contradictory.
can you name these versions?
@@geliefdeliefde2339
*30 Different Qurans?*
30 Different Qurans
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Muslim and non-muslim scholars view.
The many 'versions' are only harf (plural: ahrof) and qiraat. Prounounciations slightly differs but all are the same.
They are different translations lol
Language changes over time.
G4y for example used to mean happy , now its used to name h0m0sexuals.
It's not a different version.
The manuscripts are 99% the same.
Nothing that affects doctrine.
(snort) Well, so much for the Quran being "perfectly preserved"
Maester Auron Empty buzz words without caring to explain
If all men and women of they whole world get to getter they can’t make a book like holy Quran it a challenge from holy Quran
@Orla jekins What is logically incoherent? 1+1+1=1 for example? a prophet who is 100% god and 100% human? a holy spirit god? that a baby kid is a sinner and must be baptised? That you are following Paul and not Jesus, and Paul has never met Jesus?
Theologically? Well, Jesus god prayed to the father, so god prayed to god.. so god has a god..
Science..? well I have no time for the whole list, but let's talk about the sun resting in the west.. Poor Galileo...
History? Two gospels contradict the genealogy of Jesus... in number and names... completely false...
Now telle me what's wrong with the quran.. or I tell you what... just watch you christian dude who wrote a book about religions and science getting destroyed by a muslim Scholar...
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Or maybe read Maurice Bucay, a french doctor who converted after discovering the scientific mircales of Islam.. and wrote a book about it
@Peter Keller maurice bokay
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HERE is the post mortem of all these jokers
Thank you for exposing lies and revealing truth again! ❤
Don’t mislead people by making your own translation.
You can't handle the truth!
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Examples of the variation differences of Quran text and meaning:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsh#Warsh_recitation
@@honestyworks1628 these channels teach islam with an open mind?have you lost it?
There's only one Quran, only the recitations and the way its pronounced differs because arabs speak different dialects
With all those different recitations , not a singal quran has an extra chapter/verse
So in ur face christians
Yeah even the words are same.
Silly. The claim of the Ummah today that the Quran is exactly the same as every other Muslim’s Quran in their home is demonstrably false. And also subject to completely different interpretations even by different imams. It also destroys the other claim in Islam that your Quran is clear and plainly understood. Even a child knows that, but only blind Muslims don’t.
Such a luyer of century, even if it truth according to those two 31 is much more less then 3000 or more bibles
As Suyuyat page 88:Umar said quran used to have 1 027 000 letters.⚠️Then over 70% of quran has been lost. ⚠️As Suyuyat 1:2 the surah of cow has lost 124 verses alone .⚠️
thk q bro...let me show u more
BUT there are so many Korans - which one? Recite the wrong one counts for nothing my friend…all efforts wasted as it is not the Word of Allah.
33 Different versions of the Arabic Korans - which one?
• 1.Qaloon 2. Al-Susi (Ibn Katheer) 3. Khallad 4. Idrees 5. Warsh 6. Hafs Ad-Duri (Abu Amro alBasri) 7. Al-Laith 8. al-Bazzi 9. Al-Azraq 10. As-Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) 11. Ad-Duri (alKisa’i) 12. Ibn Shanboodh 13. Al-Asbahaani 14. Hisham 15. Isa BinWardan 16. Sulayman 17. al-Bazzi 18. Ibn Dhakwan 19. Ibn Jammaz 20. Ahmad bin Farah 21. Qunbul 22. Showba 23. Ruwais 24. Shujaa’ bin Abi Nasr Al-Balakhi 25. Abu Amro Al-Ala 26. Hafs 27. Ruh 28. Al-Duri (alHasan alBasri) 29. Hafs Al-Duri (Ibn Katheer) 30. Khalf 31. Ishaq 32. Al-Hasan bin Said Al-Matuu’i33. Abu Farah Al-Shan-budhi
• The predominant reading today, spread by Egyptian Quran readers, is that of Asim in the transmission of Hafs (d. 190/805). In Morocco, the reading is that of Nafi` in the transmission of Warsh (d. 197/812) and the Moroccan Qurans are written accordingly. In Sudan, Nigeria and Central Africa, the prevailing reading is that of Abu `Amr in the version of al-Duri. The transmissions of Hafs, Warsh, Qalun and Al-Duri are still in print today.
• There are 7 Hafs - which one?
1936 - The government of Egypt realized how efficient the Cairene model was and decided to make Hafs standard for all Qur’ans in Egyptian schools
This was known as the ‘Faruq Edition’, named after King Faruq, who came to power that year.
1985 - The government of Saudi Arabia realized how efficient the Egyptian model was and decided to make Hafs standard for all Qur’ans worldwide
This was known as the ‘Fahd Edition’, named after King Fahd, who came to power in 1982. Both are man’s expediency.
• The Qira’at Qur’ans had nothing to do with any original Mushafs, but had everything to do with recitations ua-cam.com/video/iHkiuzrwvnU/v-deo.html
Different readings - so how? Which Koran?
surah 5:54 (yartadda) surah 5:54 (yartadid)
surah 91:15 (wa la yakhaafu) surah 91:15 (fa la yakhaafu)
surah 3:133 (wasaari'uu) surah 3:133 (saari'uu)
surah 2:132 (wawassaa) surah 2:132 (wa'awsaa)
surah 2:140 (taquluna) surah 2:140 (yaquluna)
surah 2:259 (nunshizuhaa) surah 2:259 (nunshiruhaa)
surah 3:81 (ataytukum) surah 3:81 (ataynakum)
surah 2:132 (himu) surah 2:132 (hiimu)
surah 2:214 (yaquula) surah 2:214 (yaquulu) submission.org/verify_are_all_Arabic_versions_of_Quran_the_same.html
FABRICATIONS by Muhammad -We wonder what other fabrications are not taken out???
Eager to be accepted as a prophet in his native Mecca, Muhammad initially conceded that Allah approved of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Al-Manat. But unable to reconcile three extra goddesses with his declared monotheism, Muhammad later reversed himself, confessing, "I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to him words which he has not spoken." (Al Tabari, The History of Al-Tabari, vol. 6, p.111) and said he had mistaken the words of "Satan" (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, pp.165-166) as Allah's. www.billionbibles.org/sharia/muhammad-false-prophet.html
Man’s word became Word of Allah
Sahih Bukhari 6:60:313 Narrated Umar: I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Good and bad persons enter upon you, so I suggest that you order the mothers of the Believers (i.e. your wives) to observe veils."
Then Allah revealed the Verses of Al-Hijab.
Missing Koran - what else did the goat eat?
[Narrated 'Aisha] "The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."
Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal. vol. 6. p. 269; Sunan Ibn Majah, p. 626; Ibn Qutaybah, Tawil Mukhtalafi 'l-Hadith (Cairo: Maktaba al-Kulliyat al-Azhariyya. 1966) p. 310; As-Suyuti, ad-Durru 'l-Manthur, vol. 2. p. 13
Prophet was bewitched - means under the control of Satan
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400: Narrated by Aisha :
Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.
Forgotten verses - what others are not recalled???
Sahih Bukhari 6, Book 61, Number 558 : Narrated by Aisha
Allah's Apostle heard a man reciting the Qur'an at night, and said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such-and-such Suras, which I was caused to forget."
Qur'an was revealed in the dialect of Quraish - what versions you have?
Sahih Bukhari: Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510: Narrated by Anas bin Malik
'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue."
If it is in other Arabic, it is man’s discretion and NOT the Word of Allah!!! Totally useless.
If you insist, then good luck to you.
You see the differences? So, what now?
• Recite wrong Koran scores no merit.
• Recite wrongly scores no merit.
• Wrong pronunciation scores no merit
• Fabrications
• Missing Koran - what else did the goat eat?
• Prophet was bewitched - means under the control of Satan
• Man’s word became Word of Allah
• It has to be in the dialect of Quraish as revealed, otherwise it is man’s discretion not Allah’s.
• Forgotten verses - what others are not recalled???
• It has to be perfect as Koran is allegedly perfect.
HUGE problems.
please translate your videos to German, french and Arabic!
and Indian Hindi also.. please. we can cooperate..
Anyone speak arabic , know that there's just one quran
Having sins and not having sins are difference.
Having big sins and having plenty of sins are synonim
Killed(for the sake of Allah) = fought
Taken care by zachariya( by Allah's will) = put under zachariya by Allah s.w.t
Its not like one allows something and the other dissallowed it.
Exactly brother mashallah
You do know that Islam stand on the fact that you was never changed and you cannot change even one word out of the Qu’ran. So which is it? Jesus is the way; the Truth; The life and your Creator. Do not be deceived. Get to heaven friends. Do not go to hell. The devil is deceiving many in the world but God is letting you see the truth. Do some more research if you have to but do not disregards what you are hearing. It is important.
@@stephanieswiga9007 Quran was received by Muhammad (saw) in 7 ahruf and qiraat(words and pronounciations). So human didnt change a word but took what was given and taught by the prophet. If you can prove my claim as wrong then i will admit i am wrong.
One way you can do is try to find 1 word in the Quran that have 8 or more variation. Not a *SENTENCE* but *WORD*. If the claim that Quran's variations is getting more numerous and changing this would be an easy task for you. Why 8? Because of the 7 ahruf and qiraat that i claimed. And even finding 7 word difference would be a challenge.
On second thought, i'll make it easier for you and instead of word, pick *1 VERSE* and give me 8 variation of it.
@@elamine9094 all I am saying brother is look into it. I am not trying to prove that you are wrong. I am just saying that Jesus is the truth. Look into it brother. Your soul depends on the truth.
@@stephanieswiga9007 i was answering your first question.
You should also look into it. Which would you believe, a book that people claim never change or a book that people dont deny to have been changed.
And even if i never believe Jesus is god according to your teaching i would still be saved because apparently jesus love all even his enemies.
doting has been invented when non arabic speakers entered islam , so the arabs added dots for them in order to understand what they are reading , but for arab native speakers they so not need those dots at all bec they understand what it written . i am native arabic speaker and give me any thing without dots i will be able to read it correctly 100%
yes i can read without any dots and dots added because of non arabic ppl when they start enter islam , go and read history . this we know very well and it is documented in our history . so u can believe them as much as u like . no point to discuss with u about anything .
u have ur faith and we have ours . (full stop)
Allah is Satan ?? , pls go and read something . really our believe more strong than your micky mouse business , do not let me to start to talk about christianity ,
imu70, THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, MUHAMMAD IS ALLAH'S MESSENGER.
Ahmed .K Doting is extremely important in Arabic language. Like AL Fadi and Dr. Smith said only 6 Arabic letters out of 28 do not need the dotting. AL Fadi in this video explained why dotting or diacritic marks were invented in Arabic language, because many were misinterpreting the Quran.
imu70, no reply, no logical answer. Abuse me, kill me. Every drop of my blood will recite and recite repeatedly: THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH, MUHAMMAD IS ALLAH'S MESSENGER.
Quran 3:54
Allah is the best of deceivers
There is no other gods than Allah, and Muhammad is its Messenger.
I will say it again and again until the end🙏🏻
Wahahahahaha. addict of sex and pretend to be the light of the world. Brought lusty desires in earth. The evil muhammad
DADAY CALOOY What did you know about Muhammad? Ok i know what youre going to tell me : Polygamy is something that always existed, Islam came to restrited that practice..(You know muslims dont wanna end with 700 wives like Christians lol)
All muhammad wives were old widows( when the prophet was 25 years old, he married a women who was 40) except one. But at this Time she was not considered a girl but an adult + She get married to Muqhmamad at 12 or 11 exactly the same age as Mary when she marry Joseph. + all Muhammad marriages after Khadidja were for making alliances. So no, Muhammad was not addict to sex nor a pedophile.
@@numidie485 what Christian want to end with 700 wives? "All Muhammad's were old windows," you claim. That is a huge lie, a huge lie. Muhammad had 13 wives and a few concubines. Except Kadija and Sauda, all the rest of his wives were young enough to be his daughters or even granddaughters . Aisha was 9-year-old when she was married to Muhammad. Where did you find that with Mary was 12 -year-old when she was married to Joseph ? Where? Yes, Muhammad was obsessed with sex. No normal at head man would marry 11 women at the same time.
I never said that Christians want to end with 700 hundred wives ! I said that polygamy was also a thing praticed by many Christians Kings and Prophets (i dont know if youre religious but David, abraham all have multiple wives.) Nothing wrong with polygamy if you respect the rules of it. Marry a girl who did not pass puberty is forbidden in Islam. ( the only religion that forbid it by the way. ;)
if you dont know marry widows is sunnah in Islam. A good thing that only good mens do.
Finally, that video is a lie and was funny to watch for me, a girl who study Arabic and the Quran for 8 years.. but i believe in God and all this meaningless hate that people have against us just make us stronger and at the end Islam win as the fastest growing religion..:) Why? Because checking few sites on the intenet will not tell u about Islam if you have questions go ask to a mosque. Im sure there have many in tour contry ! :) peace be upon you.
@@numidie485 you ignore the truth that allah is not God. You still fighting for lies. Please stop and be a true worshiper of God the Father and to Jesus and to the holy Spirit. Jesus loves you...
Love it wonderful video great information
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The kick back is not because the Muslims are shocked and they did not know, but because you are manipulating your words to show those reciting differences are differences in the Quran.
All the "version" you showed are written exactly the same and they match the first written Quran at the time of Abu Baker (the first Caliph). Although you were wrong, and i suspect deliberately lying, when you said there are 31 variations, cuz there isn't. There 10 recitations, all of which go back to prophet Muhammad thorough many branches. And when you mention thousands of variations between "versions" you deliberately chose examples that can have different meanings, but most of those variations are difference in dialectical pronunciation. One example is Alef "a" pronounce with Imala as "è". This is analogous to pronouncing "Water" as "Wader" or "Wo'ah", no change in meaning, just a different accent or dialect.
This man also deliberately ignored a very important point, the word "Quran" means "what is recited", and until this day if you want to be certified for "knowing" the Quran, you have to memorize it and recite it from memory completely using correct phonology and vowel timing while following a single recitation in front a certified person. Certification grants you a name in a series of reciters that go back to prophet Muhammad. And prophet Muhammad did pronounce some words in different variations as said earlier, either in different dialects or different morphology, and the names "Hafs" or "Warsh" are names of reciters that the series of certification passes by and are chosen for ease of distinction, and again, they all end up reaching prophet Muhammad.
Written Quran is a supplementary form that aids in the learning and memorization of it, which is "Fard Kifayah" meaning a mandatory act upon all Muslims until a threshold of success is met, in thay case having enough memorizers of Quran, that's why as children we're all introduced to memorizing Quran and when we grow up some people do it professionally while others stop.
Finally, not having vowel diacritics and consonantal dots does not make reading the Quran, or any text, impossible. They were added by Abu Aswad as non Arabs were becoming Muslims and having supplemental marks makes reading easier for them. Arabic has strict rules and if you are a native Arabic speaker you can read a non accented and dotted text with relatively an easy time.
Good video tho, I have to admit that if I was not educated well in that topic I might have fell for your manipulation.
My friend, I have TWO different Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. So I hold the evidence that there are more than one version of the quran. You have been lied to my friend. But please my friend, do NOT believe me. Go and buy a hafs quran and a warsh quran (they are the most popular) in ARABIC and compare them. You do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between just these two versions of the quran. So will you accept my challenge and buy these two qurans or will you keep on believing the islamic fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved quran my friend?
سبحان الله لم اصل لاى نتيجه غير انه لا يوجد تغيير فى المعانى الحمدلله على نعمه المنطق والعقل والحمدلله الذى بعث محمد رسولا نبيا
هم من يعبدون خلق الله لن يجدوا طريق الحق أبدا الا باذن الله سبحانه و تعالى, المسيحيون يدركون ان كتابهم الانجيل حُرّف فحاولوا ان يقولو نفس الشيء عن القرأن لكنهم فشلوا. فهم فضلوا ان يتكلموا بالهراء بدلاَ عن استخدام أذهانهم في التفكير في معنى القرأن. يا لهم من شعب عجيب
اخي الكريم هذا الفيديو للرد على تفاهتهم
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😂😂😂😂😂 lol @@ugh2668
17:00 😂😂😭 the carbon dating shows the age of the parchment after the death of the animal and these parchments would lie in stores for many years till their use.
You made a joke of yourself in the end.
Was gonna say. And what about the case, that maxbe the parchment was used for another scripture? Like they wiped off what was written on it originally, and then wrote the quran on it.
By jumping to conclusions faster than lightning mcqeen and then say „BECAUSE WE HAVE JESUS, THATS WHAT YOU WANT“ they have made a serious and big clown of themselves.
Very childish.
I agree, this was an amateurish video
How about getting 3 different Muslims from 3 different countries that have memorized the quran and put them in 3 different rooms and have them quote the same suras at the same time. Think it could be done? They have to match exactly.
Is there a website where every different Quran version is found? Plus a comparison verse by verse? It’ll be a great tool for us to point it to every type of Muslim from every part of the world where the different Quran versions are used.
Good idea.
Brilliant. I have heard about different versions of the Qur'an, but have not seen such a detailed analysis of this problem.
My friend I dont have to explain but if you're Christian that your bible was written 300 years after jesus and the Catholic bible if hugely different than the orthodox bible ... And what they say in this video about quran is shit.. its enough that no one could write and will write a similar book to quran it has been 14 centuries and no one couldnt
@@ahmedmabdelaal441 : if they're able to change Qur'an there would be millions of different versions of it . But all we have is different qiraat which they call a version though they all have same msg . If you can change that or create something like that I will appreciate .
@@mohammadzeeshanali3683 exactly bro its the same quran but different ways of reciting or pronouncing it ❤️ .. No word of The Quran has been changed
@@ahmedmabdelaal441 Nowadays, there are MANY different “original” Qurans in Arabic with different qira’at, ahruf, meanings and omission of words. They are not just dialects like "colour" and "color." If your religious leaders keep it a secret to you, I can show you. Check out these 10 examples:
01) In QURAN 57:24 in the Warsh version there is the word “huwa,” but in the Hafs version there is not such a word. There in an omission or an addition inside the Quran. Which one was the original one taught by the angel Gabriel? Nobody knows. So, is the Quran PERFECTLY preserved? NO.
02) In QURAN 5:6 Ibn Kathir, Abu Amr,Shu'ba and Hamza read wa-'arjulikum وَأَرْجُلِكُمْ (your feet [genitive case]), but others read wa-'arjulakum وَأَرْجُلَكُمْ (your feet [accusative case]). The grammatical variance caused different rulings on wudu between Sunni and Shi'i (whether to rub or wash the feet). In other words, the variant grammatical cases (wa-arjulakum and wa-arjulikum) were adopted for different exegetical views by Sunni and Shīʿi scholars, such that in wudu the feet were either to be washed or rubbed, respectively.
03) QURAN 2:184 could either read “a poor person” (Hafs version: miskeenin مِسْكِينٍ) or “poor people” (Warsh versión: masakeena مَسَٰكِينَ). This has significance on the practice of what you do during the fast. Do you give money for just one person of for many people? In the Arabic, plural means a minimum of three or more and in a religion of works, you accumulate deeds and this is in the context of fasting. And if you could not fast you can substitute for that by feeding one person (according to Hafs) or at least three people (according to Warsh).
04) In QURAN 1:4 in the Hafs version is says “maalik” مَالِكِ (which means “king”), but in the Warsh version it says “malik“ مَلِكِ (which means “owner”); the meaning in Classical Arabic changed because one has an alif and the other does not have an alif. Which one was original taught by the Angel Gabriel? Nobody knows. Is the Quran perfectly preserved? NO. Keep in mind that QURAN 1:4 is from that particular chapter that Muslims read daily in prayers, about 17 times a day.
05) In QURAN 15:18 in the Hafs version it says: “ma nunazzilu” مَا نُنَزِّلُ (We do not send down), but in the Warsh version it says: ma tanazzilu مَا تَنَزَّلُ (they do not come down). “We” refers to God in Hafs and the “They” in Warsh refers to what is not being sent down by God (The Angels).
06) In QURAN 2:10 the Hafs version reads “yakzibuuna” يَكْذِبُونَ (they lied), but the Warsh version reads “yukazzibuuna” يٌكَذّبُونَ (they accused other of lying). So, are they doomed because they lied or are they doomed because of accusing others of lying? Nobody knows. Both have different messages. Is the Quran PERFECTLY preserved? NO.
07) In QURAN 3:146 the Hafs version says, “and many a Prophet FOUGHT alongside large bands of men” قُتِلَ but the al-Bazzi and the Warsh version say, “and many a Prophet WAS KILLED” قَاتَلَ alongside large bands of men.” They have different meanings, so which one is the correct reading taught by angel Gabriel? Nobody knows.
08) In QURAN 3:81 in the Hafs version you find, “ataytukum” ءَاتَيْتُكُمْ (I have given), but in the Warsh version you find, “ataynakum” (We have given). They can't both be right. Which one was taugh by Gabriel? No one knows; just pretend that the Quran is perfectly preserved.
09) In QURAN 43:19 in the Hafs version we read “'ibaadu” عِبَادُ (slaves), but in the Warsh version we read “'inda” عِبَٰدُ (with). This is an example of a consonantal dotting difference that gives a DIFFERENT ROOT WORD. As with most of these examples, the rasm (early stage of Arabic orthography in use at the time of Uthman) is the same in both versions (عِندَ vs عِبَٰدُ), in this case allowing two completely different root words to be read since the rasm barely employed consonantal dotting and word-internal ʾalifs, and lacked short vowels at that time.
10) In QURAN 19:25 the Hafs version says, tusaqit تُسَاقِطْ “[the tree] will drop” but other versions say, yasaqat يَسَّٰقَطْ “[the trunk] will drop.” This verse (ayah) has a notably large number of readings for this word (four canonical readings with different subject or verb form, and several non-canonical).
@@bandeano3870bro you are assuming that it’s a secret, qiraat had been thought for hundreds of years by Muslims. As a Muslim you can even take a degree course on it in Al-Azhar in Cairo which is a university founded more than 1000 years ago.
And thank you, for the job of the century, at least. God bless you
The muslims in my country Indonesia always accused us Christians had so many bible, our bible was corupt, our bible had so many version, and our bible revised a lot of times. But now i finally know that even quran had so many version. Thankyou so much for making this video and sharing the truth. Jesus bless all of us ;)
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh u fucking stupid ther is only one quran and they are right ther is only one quran u dump ass
متميزون بفكرنا
What are you trying to say?? LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂
ther is only one quran im an arab muslim and ther is no such thing as difefrent quran
dot or no dot is written quran, this is happen to preserve the correct sound, also muslim maintain quran through memorization, quran is the one u speak by mouth, not written.
متميزون بفكرنا
Have you watch the entire video buddy??
IF YOU HAD READ THOSE 2 BOOKS COMPLETELY YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY HAVE NOT SAID THESE THINGS AT 20:30 ABOUT THE TWO BOOKS.
hi bro let me show u this
BUT there are so many Korans - which one? Recite the wrong one counts for nothing my friend…all efforts wasted as it is not the Word of Allah.
33 Different versions of the Arabic Korans - which one?
• 1.Qaloon 2. Al-Susi (Ibn Katheer) 3. Khallad 4. Idrees 5. Warsh 6. Hafs Ad-Duri (Abu Amro alBasri) 7. Al-Laith 8. al-Bazzi 9. Al-Azraq 10. As-Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) 11. Ad-Duri (alKisa’i) 12. Ibn Shanboodh 13. Al-Asbahaani 14. Hisham 15. Isa BinWardan 16. Sulayman 17. al-Bazzi 18. Ibn Dhakwan 19. Ibn Jammaz 20. Ahmad bin Farah 21. Qunbul 22. Showba 23. Ruwais 24. Shujaa’ bin Abi Nasr Al-Balakhi 25. Abu Amro Al-Ala 26. Hafs 27. Ruh 28. Al-Duri (alHasan alBasri) 29. Hafs Al-Duri (Ibn Katheer) 30. Khalf 31. Ishaq 32. Al-Hasan bin Said Al-Matuu’i33. Abu Farah Al-Shan-budhi
• The predominant reading today, spread by Egyptian Quran readers, is that of Asim in the transmission of Hafs (d. 190/805). In Morocco, the reading is that of Nafi` in the transmission of Warsh (d. 197/812) and the Moroccan Qurans are written accordingly. In Sudan, Nigeria and Central Africa, the prevailing reading is that of Abu `Amr in the version of al-Duri. The transmissions of Hafs, Warsh, Qalun and Al-Duri are still in print today.
• There are 7 Hafs - which one?
1936 - The government of Egypt realized how efficient the Cairene model was and decided to make Hafs standard for all Qur’ans in Egyptian schools
This was known as the ‘Faruq Edition’, named after King Faruq, who came to power that year.
1985 - The government of Saudi Arabia realized how efficient the Egyptian model was and decided to make Hafs standard for all Qur’ans worldwide
This was known as the ‘Fahd Edition’, named after King Fahd, who came to power in 1982. Both are man’s expediency.
• The Qira’at Qur’ans had nothing to do with any original Mushafs, but had everything to do with recitations ua-cam.com/video/iHkiuzrwvnU/v-deo.html
Different readings - so how? Which Koran?
surah 5:54 (yartadda) surah 5:54 (yartadid)
surah 91:15 (wa la yakhaafu) surah 91:15 (fa la yakhaafu)
surah 3:133 (wasaari'uu) surah 3:133 (saari'uu)
surah 2:132 (wawassaa) surah 2:132 (wa'awsaa)
surah 2:140 (taquluna) surah 2:140 (yaquluna)
surah 2:259 (nunshizuhaa) surah 2:259 (nunshiruhaa)
surah 3:81 (ataytukum) surah 3:81 (ataynakum)
surah 2:132 (himu) surah 2:132 (hiimu)
surah 2:214 (yaquula) surah 2:214 (yaquulu) submission.org/verify_are_all_Arabic_versions_of_Quran_the_same.html
FABRICATIONS by Muhammad -We wonder what other fabrications are not taken out???
Eager to be accepted as a prophet in his native Mecca, Muhammad initially conceded that Allah approved of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Al-Manat. But unable to reconcile three extra goddesses with his declared monotheism, Muhammad later reversed himself, confessing, "I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to him words which he has not spoken." (Al Tabari, The History of Al-Tabari, vol. 6, p.111) and said he had mistaken the words of "Satan" (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, pp.165-166) as Allah's. www.billionbibles.org/sharia/muhammad-false-prophet.html
Man’s word became Word of Allah
Sahih Bukhari 6:60:313 Narrated Umar: I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Good and bad persons enter upon you, so I suggest that you order the mothers of the Believers (i.e. your wives) to observe veils."
Then Allah revealed the Verses of Al-Hijab.
Missing Koran - what else did the goat eat?
[Narrated 'Aisha] "The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."
Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal. vol. 6. p. 269; Sunan Ibn Majah, p. 626; Ibn Qutaybah, Tawil Mukhtalafi 'l-Hadith (Cairo: Maktaba al-Kulliyat al-Azhariyya. 1966) p. 310; As-Suyuti, ad-Durru 'l-Manthur, vol. 2. p. 13
Prophet was bewitched - means under the control of Satan
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400: Narrated by Aisha :
Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.
Forgotten verses - what others are not recalled???
Sahih Bukhari 6, Book 61, Number 558 : Narrated by Aisha
Allah's Apostle heard a man reciting the Qur'an at night, and said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such-and-such Suras, which I was caused to forget."
Qur'an was revealed in the dialect of Quraish - what versions you have?
Sahih Bukhari: Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510: Narrated by Anas bin Malik
'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue."
If it is in other Arabic, it is man’s discretion and NOT the Word of Allah!!! Totally useless.
If you insist, then good luck to you.
You see the differences? So, what now?
• Recite wrong Koran scores no merit.
• Recite wrongly scores no merit.
• Wrong pronunciation scores no merit
• Fabrications
• Missing Koran - what else did the goat eat?
• Prophet was bewitched - means under the control of Satan
• Man’s word became Word of Allah
• It has to be in the dialect of Quraish as revealed, otherwise it is man’s discretion not Allah’s.
• Forgotten verses - what others are not recalled???
• It has to be perfect as Koran is allegedly perfect.
HUGE problems.
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Beautifully n confidently presented but amazingly deviant and deceptive for any1 with superficial knwledge....it started with the dots idea ' 'smiley' tryin to confuse it with fat'ha dwammah, kasrah...n do on....this is basic arabic n from n arab dats a vry poor attempt...
Fantastic presentation, the arabic dressing, colourful, seemingly convincing...but only for ignorant of arabic language, history n religion.
Paul William is far more objective, unbiased n truthful...anyway the close future will or has already proved/debunked all these ' hard work, well presented, yet ...untrue arguments' ...they r still destroyin the Qur'an ... n unashamedly comparin it to the bible....'
Peace n may truth prevail....
The 37 Qurans have words with different meanings (not dialects with same meanings). The Qurans have omissions/additions of words.
Years ago, the challenge was that not a single word was changed, no omissions, no additions, no alterations.
The Quran failed the challenge of perfect preservation, so now the changed the challenge: the teachings are preserved. PATHETIC.
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By the way, the 7 ahruf nowadays were fabricated 250 after Muhammad's death. The scholar who made it all up was Abu Balr ibn Mujahid.
You have artificial Qurans.
Thank you brothers for revealing the Truth. May you be blessed and protected.
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Unfortunately, it is not the whole truth about the Qur'an.
@Rishal Charles not really....
@@dauharryrahman3398 shame
why haven;'t they recreated one chapter that resembles Quran yet? it's been 1400 years and they still can't. i wonder why that is🤔🤔
It better to keep it as it is.
Why do they need to recreate it?
What does that even mean? Nobody could create such a bad book unless they really tried very hard.
Just bc some little dots were changed doesn’t mean the meaning of the words have. The Quran always meant the same thing and has never been changed.
Oh Boi. 😂
Thank you both 💓 & the many who have helped us understand 💓
You can decorate those Qurans with as much gold on the covers as you want. It’s still a lie
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Good joke 🤣
FYI there is only one quran. There are different translations of it only and it is believed that it can not be translated without losing some of it's clear or hidden meaning(s)
@@itismethatguy quran is a lie
Make sure to tell this to Allah when you meet Him
Jay Smith is so inspirational. I learned so much from him about the history of Islam and how the Quran came to be. I've interacted with so many Muslims and they all told me there's only one Quran and the Bible is corrupted. At the time, which was around 15 years ago, I was just starting to learn about Islam and then I found out about Sam Shamoun and Jay Smith. Thank goodness for my two Christian Brothers who taught me so much. I've watched many video testimonies of Muslims coming to Christ. Hallelujah
I would like to see more examples and more research done, it is an interesting discussions. I am always curious about this kind of topics during my studies.
Studying history and language so far make me want to say, those dots changed how it was read, how it was said and how it was wrote.
I have seem,
words that looks the same but sounds the different,
words that sounds the same but written different,
One word that have multiple meaning.
Overall, looking forward to see a more objective comparison next time with more solid evidence that if these changes or difference does changed the meaning drastically.
1400 plus years without any changes is quite interesting if it were true. If it weren't true then, the next move need to be thought of. For academic, this is interesting.
ItsLucasYap hey bro are you from Singapore? Me too!
Hmmm, but my fellow tell me they can just read them without the dots and its normal thing there, the different took place in the recitation yet I never find muslim debating about a verse true translation since its just the same.... 🙂
Now it is easy to understand how any Muslim Cleric can explain/justify almost anything....it just depends on his motivation.
Or maybe you are a hypocrite who doesn't accept the truth if it doesn't go with his irrational belief
hypocrisy grew between them, and was used to it
Well done guys. Very interesting.
I AM FREE IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. AMEN.
In the name of allah
@Jy Ks u r proving facts ulhamdulillah
Jy Ks these are the same words all Muslims are taught lol. He never had not explicitly say the exact words you wanted him to. Where did he say I am a prophet and don’t not worship me? Is he the most inept prophet ever? Because all of his disciples worshipped him as lord along with billions of people when his word was spread and became the largest religion in the world. The qu’ran holds Jesus’ disciples in very high regard and yet they spread total nonsense that transformed the world in terms of believing Jesus is Lord. Now if you’re willing to listen there’s many passages like in the gospel of John that prove Jesus claimed he was God
U obviously know nothing about islam. La ilaha ilallah this means there is no go but allah. And Allahu la illaha illa huwa this means no one is worthy to be worshipped but allah.
@@Chuckecheesin jesus's real name is isa Alayhi Salam.
This video proves how desperately they want to debunk the Quran. Yet no avail, the "message" is all the same.❤
"The imams and sheikhs know thar what they push is a sham
Historically, it lacks credibility
Spiritually, it lacks authenticity and as a guide to the living, it lacks morality. Besides the quran said that the word of God cannot be corrupted and that the Torah and the Bible are the word lf God. Go figure..."
-@glennb.wiebe
Tbf brother our book tells us to be careful to not be decieved and werenjust warning you guys about deception. Islam is a terrible religion to follow. The extremists are practicing to the letter, its the peaceful ones that are in fact, the hijackers.
Message from the devil with non-sensical stories, contradictions and ignorant plagiarism. You dont get the point. Muslims talk about corruption of the Bible but are so deceived to see their own text corruption that they need Imams to explain it to them. Lol. What a joke.
My friend, I have TWO different Arabic versions of the quran right here at home. So I hold the evidence that there are more than one version of the quran. You have been lied to my friend. But please my friend, do NOT believe me. Go and buy a hafs quran and a warsh quran (they are the most popular) in ARABIC and compare them. You do not even need to know much Arabic to easily see the many differences in MEANING between just these two versions of the quran. So will you accept my challenge and buy these two qurans or will you keep on believing the islamic fairy tale of the one perfectly preserved quran my friend?
almost 2022, still waiting for the 31-37 differences of Quran
Mashallah you brothers did a nice job at showing how amazing the Quran is. Alhamdulila, it’s amazing that we have so many recitations, May Allah SubhanaWaTala keep giving us more knowledgeable reciters so that everyone around the world can recite properly. And may Allah increase the Muslims in knowledge so we can understand the layers of hikman in the Quran. Ameen
Did u watch the video LMAO
The fact that these the ahruf existed at the time of prophets and there's a proof that they did and people come to know this now🤦they really look dumb
@@GreekOrthodox7 it is clear your only knowledge of the matter comes only from non-Muslim academia
@Bj D how much have you studied of the matter out of this video and bias presentation of information ?
@@Rocky-ur9mn I did it was a very inaccurate explanation to the subject, they are trying to project the bible dilemma onto the Quran, and to do so they are misrepresenting the information in an effort to put doubt into uneducated minds who will not go beyond a video or two, much less sit down and actually do research.