A magnet mount antenna is meant to be used on a METAL surface to provide a gound plane for the signal. Without the ground plane the antenna has a greatly reduced efficiancy.
I know this video was done a long time ago now but what would have been an interesting twist would to have been to put the magmount on the top of a microwave and put the phone inside and see what the signal was then to see if it was actually coming through the external antenna.
The reason you are getting slower speeds and that there are two ports is for MIMO (Multi-Input Multi-Output) When you connect one port, you're limiting yourself to Input or output only at one time. The reason you're getting slow speeds when connecting both ports is that the antenna you're using is is not a true MIMO antenna. It joins both connectors to a single shielded cable and loses out on its MIMO capability. Try you're same experiment with a directional MIMO antenna aimed at a cell tower. Your speeds should almost double and your Dbi should drop to around 70-80.
Antenna is not some sort of booster, there is no point of testing it when it is laying just inches away from the phone. The phone and the antenna will receive same signal (would it be good or bad). In situation when you are in a basement and your signal strength is really shity, you could place antenna outside the house and connect it, than you would see a big difference.
I have a low signal problem in my garage. If the shutter is closed no signal, if it is open the signal is stable and sufficient for my purposes. Is this a use case when I would benefit from an external antenna installed just outside the garage? What options or products would you recommend?
I would like to see a test where you have 1 or 2 bars on your phone and see if attaching the antenna and moving the antenna to a higher location improves service. Testing in an area that already has 3-5 bars seems to be a limited test.
that was clearly helpful..thanks for suggesting better to rely on internal antennas & don't play with wires on those W1 / W2 ports... Thanks once again
What does that tell us? Simple: the connection that you are testing is your 4G connection. If the power of the nearest tower gives you 110dB when you are at home, you are going to get 110dB no matter which antenna you will be using. If the internal antenna gives you 110db, and the external antenna ALSO gives you 110db, that means at your home there is NO MORE than 110dB. Antennas cannot give you more signal that there is available, at least, not without a booster that would amplify the signal. The true test would be connecting to wireless access points relatively far from the phone. That is where the different gain between the internal and external antennas will be a factor. If you test both antennas right next to the router, you will get exactly the same results as this test. They will both give you more or less signal. Same won't happen with a far away network. The external antenna should give better results because of the higher gain.
I don't have an app to measure the signal strength. My circumstance is 1 bar (and sometimes 2) in my house. My idea is to use a yagi antenna of the correct frequency band and point to the only cell tower around in order to improve the reception. How many bars did you have initially? and how many bars did you have with the external antenna? I want to use this setup to replace my landline, IF I can get an adequate signal. (hopefully, four bars)
you need to put the antenna on metal and it will help that is why it has the magnetic base it is more for outside use that inside . It is a dual one which is why it has 2 for when you use a wifi with a dual band
Different 'service providers' use different UPlink/DNlink frequencies within the 3G /4G band allocation. - If the 'antenna' does not cover ( read - not tuned to) YOUR service providers frequencies,... you'll never get any improvement. .( My service provider uses 1710-1780Mhsz and 1810-1880Mhz and it's impossible t get their signals unless an antenna is 'matched'. - I have tried Yagi directional & Omni-directional antennas,... and had to 'tweak' them both for coverage.... best one was my home-made 'modified' ( miniature) J-Pole style. .
100% - Different 'service providers' use different UPlink/DNlink frequencies within the 3G /4G band allocation. - If the 'antenna' does not cover ( read - not tuned to) YOUR service providers frequencies,... you'll never get any improvement. .( My service provider uses 1710-1780Mhsz and 1810-1880Mhz and it's impossible t get their signals unless an antenna is 'matched'. - I have tried Yagi directional & Omni-directional antennas,... and had to 'tweak' them both for coverage.... best one was my home-made 'modified' ( miniature) J-Pole style. .
if i get an external antenna with usb adaptor (listed for pc) will the antenna work to the smartphone? If I connect the antenna with OTG to the smartphone will it need some kind of drivers (like how it happends in windows) or connect and you are ready??
It could be about power how the phone is able to manage the power to use its antenna and an external antenna. If your phone runs effeciently enough then there is enough power to recieve better signal strenth and to connect a large antenna that long is a little long for a phone. ITs not a pc so you cant expect something like that to run effeciently but it you had something with not such a long cord and a shorter antenna maybe but your best thing is to use the phones antenna and if its made out of a good quality conductive material and also the rest of the phone is then youd probably be better off with internal phone. Because you loose latency with length and with compared to something that is inernal which is a lot better for latency and signal strength. ITs all about how your phone or how well your phone is managing its power internally to be able to utilize signal strength. If power is allocated to other functions then your phone first has to power those functions and divide up the power to be able to utulize all processes at once or simultaneously so its about efficiency. Thats my theory or guess and im not an expert just my guess on what i think it is u guess.
I have Samsung j4 2018 through tmobile , I get notifications mostly in the evening, for text and voicemail for missed calls from earlier in the day ,kinda like a delayed notifications, also il get .missed call on phone but phone never rang and no phone number on missed call list could this be the phone or the service??
Nice video. Try to control the single type from the Data setup by selecting UMTS or LTE for Data. I would also use an RF meter to understand it and when the external antenna is working and when the internal.
Thanks for the information two years ago I got 3 bars normally now I'm lucky to get 1 bar. Some places I go I get 5 bars but not at my house. 😃😃 Thanks
The antenna is designed to be mounted on metal, so perhaps a test from inside your car would be better. My cheap metal antenna from China works great at getting me signal where I otherwise wouldn't. It does drain the battery fast though. Also I am surprised that the antenna wasn't tested at different angles.
kbmoonfarmer It was tested on a metal base, high in the air, on a vehicle, and tested with several signal strength apps to see if there was any difference.
Smoothtalker Universal Cradle, no cables into phone, proper RFI 4G antenna, will cost you 4x what that antenna did but will actually work. That looks like a 2.5Dbi antenna maybe? You want to look for a 6.5Db antenna. And use it where your phone has ZERO reception.
@@alexr7574 maybe MS-162? diameter of connector in my samsung is about 2.7mm. I think MS-156 is too small (1.92mm) and MS-147 is little too big (3.4mm). I found also MS-162 (2.48mm) and is veery close to samsung connector, but I must buy and check to be sure.
Strangest video about antennas, I've ever seen. Do you just connect the cableconnectors in random order? I mean, if there's a connector at the phone for 3g and one for 4g, then the external antenna shouldn't be the same, because it's different frequenzies. To start with ohm that connecter cable to see if there's any difference if you use the first connector or the second connector. Guess there's a fifty/fifty chance that you've put the wrong cable to the L1 connector - And then figure out if the antenna's primarily for 3g or 4g or both? :) You work so structured in the beginning, so continue that line instead of just guessing in the end. :) Best wishes Peter
Mac MashPotato My AT&T Galaxy S4 has two ports like one of the 3 S4's in the video. But I'm pretty sure none of the different S5 models have these ports. You'd have to use a 'patch antenna' to be able to connect your s5 to a external antenna like the one in the video. Google this to see what I mean.
save your time, don't watch the vid. Quick summary of the video: External antennas do not work Guy in vid isn't sure of 95% of the things you want to know why you are going to watch this video anyway.
*tl;dr* Dude talks a lot, then performs very poorly researched and incorrectly executed "test" and is stunned by poor results. Then talks a lot more. If you want a proper, _accurate_ review, look elsewhere.
wouldve had to have done a series of test with each configuration for it to be an actual review. how bout tryin to get some video editing skills,cut out the repetivite mumbling and skip to the summary of your series of speed test newbie.... pfffffft
A magnet mount antenna is meant to be used on a METAL surface to provide a gound plane for the signal. Without the ground plane the antenna has a greatly reduced efficiancy.
I don't believe that a ground plane at such a high frequency is that important.
wins the award for most words used to convey least amount of information.......a true master of his craft!
I know this video was done a long time ago now but what would have been an interesting twist would to have been to put the magmount on the top of a microwave and put the phone inside and see what the signal was then to see if it was actually coming through the external antenna.
He could have pointed out at the beginning of the video that external antenna does not work.
yeah my ist bad material not made from copper
The reason you are getting slower speeds and that there are two ports is for MIMO (Multi-Input Multi-Output) When you connect one port, you're limiting yourself to Input or output only at one time. The reason you're getting slow speeds when connecting both ports is that the antenna you're using is is not a true MIMO antenna. It joins both connectors to a single shielded cable and loses out on its MIMO capability. Try you're same experiment with a directional MIMO antenna aimed at a cell tower. Your speeds should almost double and your Dbi should drop to around 70-80.
Thank you for taking the time and give us information
Antenna is not some sort of booster, there is no point of testing it when it is laying just inches away from the phone. The phone and the antenna will receive same signal (would it be good or bad). In situation when you are in a basement and your signal strength is really shity, you could place antenna outside the house and connect it, than you would see a big difference.
Makes me think of the xwing scene from star wars
"Stay on topic, Stay on topic"
I have a low signal problem in my garage. If the shutter is closed no signal, if it is open the signal is stable and sufficient for my purposes. Is this a use case when I would benefit from an external antenna installed just outside the garage? What options or products would you recommend?
Do another test with the antenna basted externally eg up on the roof.
Fine, i will keep my cell phone
I would like to see a test where you have 1 or 2 bars on your phone and see if attaching the antenna and moving the antenna to a higher location improves service. Testing in an area that already has 3-5 bars seems to be a limited test.
that was clearly helpful..thanks for suggesting better to rely on internal antennas & don't play with wires on those W1 / W2 ports... Thanks once again
What does that tell us? Simple: the connection that you are testing is your 4G connection. If the power of the nearest tower gives you 110dB when you are at home, you are going to get 110dB no matter which antenna you will be using. If the internal antenna gives you 110db, and the external antenna ALSO gives you 110db, that means at your home there is NO MORE than 110dB. Antennas cannot give you more signal that there is available, at least, not without a booster that would amplify the signal.
The true test would be connecting to wireless access points relatively far from the phone. That is where the different gain between the internal and external antennas will be a factor. If you test both antennas right next to the router, you will get exactly the same results as this test. They will both give you more or less signal. Same won't happen with a far away network. The external antenna should give better results because of the higher gain.
I don't have an app to measure the signal strength. My circumstance is 1 bar (and sometimes 2) in my house. My idea is to use a yagi antenna of the correct frequency band and point to the only cell tower around in order to improve the reception. How many bars did you have initially? and how many bars did you have with the external antenna? I want to use this setup to replace my landline, IF I can get an adequate signal. (hopefully, four bars)
But... don't you need to put the antenna outside to get any benefit??!
Thanks for the video. It did help me so I appreciate it. 👍
Thanks a lot man! Very interesting and useful for me.
How do you improve your Bluetooth antenna strength?
Have you research passive antennas for newer cell phones with no internal access
you need to put the antenna on metal and it will help that is why it has the magnetic base it is more for outside use that inside . It is a dual one which is why it has 2 for when you use a wifi with a dual band
Have you tried to extend the antenna wire to your phone. As that wire itself from the antenna also receives/carries a reception signal???
Different 'service providers' use different UPlink/DNlink frequencies within the 3G /4G band allocation. - If the 'antenna' does not cover ( read - not tuned to) YOUR service providers frequencies,... you'll never get any improvement.
.( My service provider uses 1710-1780Mhsz and 1810-1880Mhz and it's impossible t get their signals unless an antenna is 'matched'. - I have tried Yagi directional & Omni-directional antennas,... and had to 'tweak' them both for coverage.... best one was my home-made 'modified' ( miniature) J-Pole style.
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Hey what video game were you downloading? Just curious?
That antenna is designed to be used with a ground plane such as the metal surface on top of a car. Thanks for the great video.
My S4 lose signal but iff I put part off wire in external antenna con. I have nomal signal and cell work OK.What you suggest.??
3g and 4g use different frequencies. if frequency does the match the phones it would not make a difference. Frequencies vary from countries!
100% - Different 'service providers' use different UPlink/DNlink frequencies within the 3G /4G band allocation. - If the 'antenna' does not cover ( read - not tuned to) YOUR service providers frequencies,... you'll never get any improvement.
.( My service provider uses 1710-1780Mhsz and 1810-1880Mhz and it's impossible t get their signals unless an antenna is 'matched'. - I have tried Yagi directional & Omni-directional antennas,... and had to 'tweak' them both for coverage.... best one was my home-made 'modified' ( miniature) J-Pole style.
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if i get an external antenna with usb adaptor (listed for pc) will the antenna work to the smartphone? If I connect the antenna with OTG to the smartphone will it need some kind of drivers (like how it happends in windows) or connect and you are ready??
external antenna is to put up as high as possible so it can receive a better reception. phone beside antenna is not going to be any better at all.
hmmm my understanding is that you need a 4 inch metal grounding plane at least. never understood what it ment though or why
It could be about power how the phone is able to manage the power to use its antenna and an external antenna. If your phone runs effeciently enough then there is enough power to recieve better signal strenth and to connect a large antenna that long is a little long for a phone. ITs not a pc so you cant expect something like that to run effeciently but it you had something with not such a long cord and a shorter antenna maybe but your best thing is to use the phones antenna and if its made out of a good quality conductive material and also the rest of the phone is then youd probably be better off with internal phone. Because you loose latency with length and with compared to something that is inernal which is a lot better for latency and signal strength. ITs all about how your phone or how well your phone is managing its power internally to be able to utilize signal strength. If power is allocated to other functions then your phone first has to power those functions and divide up the power to be able to utulize all processes at once or simultaneously so its about efficiency. Thats my theory or guess and im not an expert just my guess on what i think it is u guess.
I have Samsung j4 2018 through tmobile , I get notifications mostly in the evening, for text and voicemail for missed calls from earlier in the day ,kinda like a delayed notifications, also il get .missed call on phone but phone never rang and no phone number on missed call list could this be the phone or the service??
Nice video.
Try to control the single type from the Data setup by selecting UMTS or LTE for Data.
I would also use an RF meter to understand it and when the external antenna is working and when the internal.
That aerial is designed for a metal car or surface as its base, a marine aerial with its own metal ground plane will work far better.
Thanks for the information two years ago I got 3 bars normally now I'm lucky to get 1 bar. Some places I go I get 5 bars but not at my house. 😃😃 Thanks
The antenna is designed to be mounted on metal, so perhaps a test from inside your car would be better. My cheap metal antenna from China works great at getting me signal where I otherwise wouldn't. It does drain the battery fast though. Also I am surprised that the antenna wasn't tested at different angles.
kbmoonfarmer It was tested on a metal base, high in the air, on a vehicle, and tested with several signal strength apps to see if there was any difference.
kbmoonfarmer can show us a photo how your made in china antenna looks like ? perhaps made in china phone can only use with made in china antenna =)
now I've seen documentation👌 that says just plug it in already 👌
Smoothtalker Universal Cradle, no cables into phone, proper RFI 4G antenna, will cost you 4x what that antenna did but will actually work. That looks like a 2.5Dbi antenna maybe? You want to look for a 6.5Db antenna. And use it where your phone has ZERO reception.
hi, were i find the cables? i need a picture of the cable. thx
dont do it i have no signal after that
5:02 your kernel is not Seandroid enforcing.. warranty void :)
this video is very useful!
How is this connector called( adapter from ... to FME)?
MrDeungdeung ts9 to FME
ms 147
What if you wrapped the phone in tinfoil to test if it wasn't using its internal antenna even after plugging in the external.
What the name of that cable which is connected to mobile?
I believe it is a sma female to ts9 male Y splitter cable
@@martakociak1904 thanks for the reply
the connector on mobile is MS156 (aka IP9)
I bought the ms 156 cable and it doesn't work, it's not the right one for the S4 I9505
@@yourstubo ms 147
@@alexr7574 maybe MS-162? diameter of connector in my samsung is about 2.7mm. I think MS-156 is too small (1.92mm) and MS-147 is little too big (3.4mm). I found also MS-162 (2.48mm) and is veery close to samsung connector, but I must buy and check to be sure.
@@StefanJan sorry, perhaps ms-162
@@alexr7574 no problem bro 👍 I only have CRC9 and is little too small, but... 😁 Maybe i will push harder hehe
hello friend, how to install external antenna of gps? thanks
Thank you very mutch
Strangest video about antennas, I've ever seen. Do you just connect the cableconnectors in random order? I mean, if there's a connector at the phone for 3g and one for 4g, then the external antenna shouldn't be the same, because it's different frequenzies. To start with ohm that connecter cable to see if there's any difference if you use the first connector or the second connector. Guess there's a fifty/fifty chance that you've put the wrong cable to the L1 connector - And then figure out if the antenna's primarily for 3g or 4g or both? :) You work so structured in the beginning, so continue that line instead of just guessing in the end. :) Best wishes Peter
The s4 is AT&T mega 6.3 looks like just a different Sim slot
*heavy breathing*
Can i do this an galaxy A13?
dont connect to this pin .it causes verry big issue to internal antenna
what exactly is it for
so ?nd I have a drone that the fpv is using my phone would this help the connection between drone and phone
No
pigtail ts9 or csc9 ?
Can this work for tablet???
Where to buy?
Best comment here.
Whats the connector name
WILLSON! WILLSON!
I dont see these ports or i mean ones simular on my s5
Mac MashPotato My AT&T Galaxy S4 has two ports like one of the 3 S4's in the video. But I'm pretty sure none of the different S5 models have these ports. You'd have to use a 'patch antenna' to be able to connect your s5 to a external antenna like the one in the video. Google this to see what I mean.
shorter the antenna the better it is to
try to build a bi quad anntenna ur anntenna could be the wrong wavelength.
save your time, don't watch the vid. Quick summary of the video:
External antennas do not work
Guy in vid isn't sure of 95% of the things you want to know why you are going to watch this video anyway.
thanks nice vidio
Sigonal strength, you say, eh?
So really buying the antenna was a waste of time
Thx
whats app name
*tl;dr* Dude talks a lot, then performs very poorly researched and incorrectly executed "test" and is stunned by poor results. Then talks a lot more.
If you want a proper, _accurate_ review, look elsewhere.
то есть короче говоря приблуда не рабочая. Спасибо теперь уверен в том, что я на верном пути. И
thanks for wastiing my time
did he just say sigahnal 4:16
No niezle
too long video
To many bla bla
wouldve had to have done a series of test with each configuration for it to be an actual review. how bout tryin to get some video editing skills,cut out the repetivite mumbling and skip to the summary of your series of speed test newbie.... pfffffft
Which port would you use for external wifi?
what is the name of the small connector ?
It looks like IP-9 connector 2mm diameter. I will try to this external antenna on my Samsung S5..the connectors are the same for S4 and S5.
@@teomeoo1 i have both S4 and S5 they are Very different connectors !
MS 147
thanks nice vidio
Vidio hahahh make it Vodoo instead Lol.