Does Israel give Citizenship to Converts to Judaism?

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  • @Eliezer1018
    @Eliezer1018 11 місяців тому +14

    I submit that a time is coming not too far away that these Rabbis in Israel will be welcoming converts with open arms . War causes one to give pause and rethink these ways we have been mistreating the converts, and These Rabbis most not all won’t fight a war. They rely on the exertions of others. If we really believe in HaShem and his Torah we need to create and accept the converts. May it be soon and in our day. Beezrat HaShem!

  • @OleJoe
    @OleJoe Рік тому +19

    I remember writing to the Israeli Consulate and asking if non Jews can become Israelis. Their answer was yes. You had to immigrate to Israel, live there for a minimum of 5 years and then go through their naturalization process. Pretty much like most western countries.
    It is my understanding that Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people and that's why they have the "Law of Return" for Jews.

    • @roncarlin3209
      @roncarlin3209 Рік тому +3

      You now get citizenship as soon as you land at the airport.

    • @MsJulisa3
      @MsJulisa3 9 місяців тому +1

      Really when was this? I lived in Israel for a year because of a relationship but I was told I could only become Israeli through marriage or conversion.

    • @OleJoe
      @OleJoe 9 місяців тому

      @@MsJulisa3 1973. Maybe the laws have changed.

    • @flutebasket4294
      @flutebasket4294 6 місяців тому

      Pretty sure in the US, UK, Italy, Sweden, Germany, and basically every other Western nation you just walk across the border and you're good

    • @AGM551
      @AGM551 3 місяці тому

      @@OleJoe oh yeh ofc it changed from 1973

  • @ScenariosOfDrea
    @ScenariosOfDrea Рік тому +16

    it shouldn't matter how one observes if you converted to Judaism shouldn't matter which sect. You are should be accepted by Israel. also there are many born Jews who are allowed to do the return home if they want. There should be a simple recognization, because in the Torah it basically explains to teach the person Judaism and let them in the mikvah. Literally that'ss what it explains in the Torah. So by that definition every convert in every sect should be considered Jewish.

  • @polemeros
    @polemeros 10 місяців тому +1

    When, where and from whom did you receive semikhah?

  • @IandThou-wt2ui
    @IandThou-wt2ui 4 місяці тому +1

    There are some who convert through multiple branches. Which one would the state of Israel use ie. some may start in Reform before an Orthodox conversion. Would the state of Israel allow that person in on the Reform conversion if they did not acknowledge the Orthodox?

  • @EriGadi
    @EriGadi Рік тому +4

    Shalom rabbi, what's your opinion on an unrecognized orthodox conversion accepted by one community, such as a Young Israel community, and if the convert decides to relocate to another orthodox community, how should the convert proceed?

    • @MidEastAmerican
      @MidEastAmerican  Рік тому +7

      The new community should accept the convert the same way they accept a Jew from any other community. According to Talmudic halakha, if the convert desires to marry someone who is born Jewish, then the new community should be extra careful to validate that the conversion occurred in front of three valid witnesses. If they are unsure regarding the validity of the three witnesses of his conversion, then the new community should immediately see to a 'conversation for removing doubt' (geeyur leh-Humra). Assuming the convert to arrived from a different community exhibits basic knowledge of Torah and commitment to Torah observance, there is no reason to delay the conversion for removing doubt. Per the words of our Sages, the conversion should occur immediately (meeYAD). HaShem never demanded from the people of Israel, and that includes converts, that we perfectly do all the commandments and never make a mistake. The concept that we must perfectly observe every mitzvah or else is actually a mistaken Christian concept.

    • @benyaakov6453
      @benyaakov6453 2 місяці тому

      @@MidEastAmerican As far as I know most Young Israel Rabbis are affiliated with the RCA & RCA conversions are recognized by the rabbanut therefore the state as well

  • @MargaritaSage
    @MargaritaSage Рік тому +6

    Great video! This is a very confusing subject amongst converts. I would also add that while those who converted Conservative or Reform are more readily granted citizenship. They are usually not considered officially Jewish according to the Rabbinate, but simply Israelis. If they desire to be officially recognized as Israeli Jews, they must undergo conversion according to the protocol of the Rabbinate. I wish the converting courts outside of Israel would seek to better understand and explain this to those converting.

    • @YourRichLifeMedia
      @YourRichLifeMedia Рік тому +2

      A really great friend of mine did convert conservative, took her 2 years and she married and moved to Israel and the orthodox rabbi's did accept her.

    • @roncarlin3209
      @roncarlin3209 Рік тому

      Ok, so it's easier to get Israeli citizenship (Ezrahut) through Conservative or Reform, but what's the point of that when it's only the Orthodox Rabbinate that can authorise Jewish Nationality ( "leum yehudi")?

  • @sardorkazakov1038
    @sardorkazakov1038 Рік тому +7

    I dont have any jewish blood, but i fell in love jews people and israel, and now i am thinking about conversion to Judaism ✡️ am i acceptable ? YHWH ❤️

    • @MidEastAmerican
      @MidEastAmerican  Рік тому +17

      Esau and Jacob were twins. They had the same blood. Jewishness has nothing to do with blood. If you love God and want to accept the fullness of His Will, His commandments upon yourself, to love Him and embrace His commandments, which includes identifying with His historical People, then nothing prevents you.

    • @eliavgordon2108
      @eliavgordon2108 Рік тому +3

      Great response 👏 I love it ! Shalom chaver 🇮🇱✡️

    • @achilles7607
      @achilles7607 5 місяців тому +1

      Brother, if you already converted, then I'm happy for you. If you haven't, just know that you don't have to convert. You're blood is not Jewish because that's what God wanted. But you are still commanded to the Noahide laws, follow the Noahide laws and God bless you.
      By the way, speaking or writing God's explicit name is forbidden for Jews, Noahides and Gentiles...
      Even in foreign languages...

  • @Rav1303
    @Rav1303 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for messege Dear Brother ❤

  • @Nikolai9510
    @Nikolai9510 Рік тому +2

    Who's more reviled by the orthodox reflrm or conservstive converts? Because ive ready some pretty nasty stories from reform converts who said they were blatently labelled as not jewish

  • @carlascy17
    @carlascy17 18 годин тому

    I really needed to hear that even if the beit dins I can convert with are not recognized by the state of Israel, it is still very valid in the eyes of G.d, thank you ❤

  • @yairbenavraham9284
    @yairbenavraham9284 Рік тому +2

    Greetings from Finland Yosef by Yair and Miriam Klemet,

  • @marklevy9314
    @marklevy9314 Рік тому +1

    But doesn't that mean the state of Israel has "rascialised" jewish identity ie secular jewish billionaire from Florida can move to Israel but a convert ro orthodox Judaism can't move there even I'd let's say they are shunned by family and friends for converting?

  • @ryans.6889
    @ryans.6889 Рік тому +1

    If one converted Conservative through the main conservative movement, can they make aliya and then do a orthodox conversion in Israel?

    • @ryans.6889
      @ryans.6889 7 місяців тому +1

      @TrembleAtHisWord Because I feel more at home in the Eruv and with the community than I do with my own family.

    • @ryans.6889
      @ryans.6889 7 місяців тому +3

      @TrembleAtHisWord I'm already in an orthodox community working on a halachic conversion, I gave my answer years ago when I was a 19 year old kid, and it was good enough that I was accepted. I just asked the original question was out of curiosity.

    • @achilles7607
      @achilles7607 5 місяців тому

      Why not convert through orthodox and then come to Israel?

    • @ryans.6889
      @ryans.6889 5 місяців тому

      @achilles7607 That's what I'm working on currently. Officially moving into the eruv in a couple of months. Was curious if the conservative would be fast so I could make it to fight. But after learning from Rabbi Yaron Reuven, I prefer not to fight in the army that would go against Moshiac.

    • @achilles7607
      @achilles7607 5 місяців тому

      @@ryans.6889
      What? How so? In what way did he say it goes against Mosaic laws?

  • @IamJohnKelly
    @IamJohnKelly 3 місяці тому

    Tell me how I can convert step by step

  • @Maxwellhenryblinken7480
    @Maxwellhenryblinken7480 Рік тому

    Can i get it if i converted to judaism or volunteered in idf as a soldier?

  • @jayd4ever
    @jayd4ever 2 місяці тому

    how do they have right to come to Israel when it is not really their homeland

  • @roncarlin3209
    @roncarlin3209 Рік тому +2

    If I'm a convert to Naturei Karta, will I be able to claim citizenship?

  • @tudormiller887
    @tudormiller887 Рік тому +4

    I want to convert from Christianity to Judaism. This was one question that was playing on my mind regarding converting to the Jewish faith. Can I make Aliyah if I convert to any other denomination other than Orthodox Judaism ? Thanks! 😊

    • @roncarlin3209
      @roncarlin3209 Рік тому

      Are you prepared for the "cut"?

    • @bohemian_edelweiss
      @bohemian_edelweiss 11 місяців тому +3

      Don't steal another palestinian home.

    • @roncarlin3209
      @roncarlin3209 11 місяців тому +2

      You can if you convert to Reform. This will give you Israeli citizenship (Ezrahut), the "right of return", a vote for a representative in the Knesset, but you will not get Jewish Nationality (leum yehudi) without Orthodox Rabbinate authorisation. It's only "leum yehudi" that get most of the rights that most citizens of a state would consider to be the minimum.

    • @flutebasket4294
      @flutebasket4294 6 місяців тому +2

      @@roncarlin3209 Most Gentiles in the US are already cut

    • @jorgitogrande
      @jorgitogrande 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes, you can convert to Reform or Conservative Judaism, and immigrate to Israel and become a citizen, but the Orthodox community in Israel won't recognize you as a Jew, in my case upon my arrival.in Israel I started the conversion process to Orthodoxy which I concluded successfully 1.3 years later. ( If you live in the US Israel recognizes only the URJ (Union of Reform Judaism) and the United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism.

  • @JewishKeto
    @JewishKeto Рік тому +28

    One day I want to make aliyah

    • @MidEastAmerican
      @MidEastAmerican  Рік тому +6

      B-ezrath Shadai 🙏

    • @JewishKeto
      @JewishKeto Рік тому +1

      @@MidEastAmerican Amyne!

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 Рік тому +2

      Colonial conquest huh

    • @JewishKeto
      @JewishKeto Рік тому +2

      With everything going on in America… I want to go home to Israel

    • @Buttercup-vw2zo
      @Buttercup-vw2zo Рік тому +1

      The Palestinians have enough settlers stealing their land

  • @JohnnyJackson746
    @JohnnyJackson746 9 місяців тому +1

    If british in hebrew means covenant man am i already a jew?

    • @achilles7607
      @achilles7607 5 місяців тому +1

      What?

    • @christo-chaney
      @christo-chaney 3 місяці тому +1

      British doesn’t mean Jewish. How many British males are circumcised in England?

    • @achilles7607
      @achilles7607 3 місяці тому +1

      @@JohnnyJackson746
      Stop!😂
      Took me a whole month to get it🤣
      Brit-ish.

  • @Es3iya
    @Es3iya Місяць тому

    The next step would be for Orthodox communities in Israel to recognise the official reformed and conservative converts as equal to orthodox converts. With same the rights for marriage, funeral, etc. It still is not unfortunately.

  • @AndersenTrades
    @AndersenTrades Місяць тому

    I wonder how many Israelis descend from converts. Many of them sure do look European

  • @Musaadjaf
    @Musaadjaf 9 місяців тому

    they kinda got you on this point, if you allow convert to come you are not indigenous if you do not you are an ethnic state. other countries were not build the same as yours so no reason to hold them to the same standard so your counter is BS

  • @angelafeldman5903
    @angelafeldman5903 Рік тому

    Do you need to be jewish to get citizenship and live there? Hi!😊

  • @Traditionalrcath
    @Traditionalrcath 4 місяці тому

    Does Israel accept Converts to Humanistic Judaism? Can they make Aliyah?

  • @TalkativeApe-gl1ex
    @TalkativeApe-gl1ex 6 місяців тому +1

    My father is a Palestinian born in Jerusalem, he lives in the diaspora And Israel does not allow him to return, he applied for visa twice, and got rejected. Can he convert to Judaism, and return to Jerusalem to visit his sick sister?

    • @josephkahn6830
      @josephkahn6830 4 місяці тому +1

      That’s why this whole thing is a joke. Lol

  • @appleo7168
    @appleo7168 7 місяців тому

    I have Jewish ancestry and I converted via reform and plan on immigrating but I am switching to orthodox 😅

  • @eve3363
    @eve3363 Рік тому +4

    A "Jew" - coming from the Hebrew word "Yehudi" - is anyone who dwells in Judea. "Jew" and "Hebrew" come from God, not people. That's why people are obsessed with these terms and Jewish people boast about them. "Jew" is a title from God, not an ethnic identifier. Abraham did not speak Hebrew as a child nor was he was a Jew until God deemed him so. Noah never spoke Hebrew and Noah was not a Jew. He was Arab! And many prophets in the Old Testament spoke multiple languages and they were considered Jews because they dwelled in Judea. "Jew" has nothing to do with a bloodline. One cannot determine a nationality from a blood test. The Hebrew language comes from God, not from a culture. Why do you think the Jewish people today do not speak Hebrew of the Bible? Why do you think before, Jewish people spoke Yiddish? Why do you think the Hebrew language was lost after the Roman occupation of Israel?
    The physical Kingdom of Israel was built to do one thing: bring forth the Messiah. The Messiah has already come and walked this Earth. That is why God allowed that temple (Israel itself) to be destroyed. Once the Messiah was resurrected, the title "Jew" ascended to Heaven with God. The title "Jew" will descend to God's faithful servants once the Messiah eradicates all evil and the faithful servants rebuild the eternal Kingdom. However, the title "Jew" is already in our hearts because God knows who is faithful and who is not.

    • @christo-chaney
      @christo-chaney 3 місяці тому

      Bible References to give Christians
      1. One Person Cannot Die for the Sins of Another
      Exodus 32.30-35, Deuteronomy 24.16, Jeremiah 31.29-30, Ezekiel 18 (all), & Psalm 146.3
      2. A Blood Sacrifice Isn’t Needed to Forgive Sins
      Genesis 4.7, Exodus 22.3-14, 34.6-7, Leviticus 5.11-13, Numbers 5.6-7, 14.17-19, 16.47 & 31.50, 1st Samuel 15.22, 2nd Samuel 12.13-16, 1st Kings 8.38-39, 41-43, & 46-50, 2nd Kings 12.16, Isaiah 6.6-7, 55.6-7, Jeremiah 7.22-23, Hosea 14.2, Jonah 3.5-10, Micah 6.6-8, Psalm 32.3-5, 34.14, 51.16-17, 86.5-7 & 15, 103.8, 111.4, 116.5, Proverbs 21.3, 28.13, Job 33.26, Lamentations 3.23, & 2nd Chronicles 7.14
      3. God Will Never Accept a Human Sacrifice
      Deuteronomy 12.30-31, Jeremiah 19.4-6, Ezekiel 16.20, & Psalm 106.37-38
      4. God is One & Indivisible (not a trinity)
      Exodus 20.3, Deuteronomy 6.4, Isaiah 43.11, 44.6, 45.5-7, & Psalm 16.4
      See also the New Testament texts of Matthew 24.36, 26.42, Mark 13.32, Luke 18.19, 23.34, & John 14.28
      5. God Doesn't Become a Human, & Humans Don't Become God
      Numbers 23.19, Ezekiel 28.2, Hosea 11.9, & Malachi 3.6

    • @eve3363
      @eve3363 3 місяці тому

      @@christo-chaney Hello. I am a bit busy at the moment but I will try my best to respond by the evening.

    • @christo-chaney
      @christo-chaney 3 місяці тому

      @@eve3363 do you believe those references are the word of God & true or are they false?

    • @christo-chaney
      @christo-chaney 3 місяці тому

      @@eve3363 when you’re ready to respond let me know if those references from the Bible are true or if they’re false.

    • @eve3363
      @eve3363 3 місяці тому

      ​@@christo-chaney"One man cannot die for the sins of others". Jesus is not a man. Jesus is a spirit who God gave flesh to in order to fulfill the highest command ever ordained by God.
      Exodus 32:30. How do you deduce that Moses COULD NOT die for the sins of the Israelites rather than God CHOOSING not to use Moses as an example? Deuteronomy 24:16, again Jesus is not a person but a spirit. This verse is specifically talking about mankind, not spirits or angels. Psalms 146:3. Jesus is not a son of man (like you or me). Jesus is the Son of God. Also, those other verses also prophesy Judgment Day: we will all be judged by our own doings, not by our parents', siblings', or community. Take for example the atrocities of slavery. God is not going to judge white people as a whole based on slavery. Each white person will be individually judged on his own life.
      "Blood sacrifice isn't needed to forgive sin". Genesis 4:7 is about revenge, jealousy, and anger, not about forgiveness of sin. Jonah 3:5-10 is an account of God's mercy and forgiveness, not specifically about blood sacrifice. I also want to note that Jesus' blood is more than forgiveness. It's about reconciliation. Just because you forgive someone doesn't mean you want to have a relationship with them. Jesus' blood allows for all mankind who ever existed, who does exist, and who will exist to have a chance at not only obtaining God's forgiveness but also having a real life relationship with Him. This can only come through Jesus Christ.
      "God will never accept a human sacrifice". Again, Jesus is not human and he is also not God. Jesus is a spirit. He is the highest of angels. The order goes God then Christ then faithful believers then angels. Also Jeremiah 4 is specifically speaking of sacrificing children to Molech and Ba'al, in other words sacrificing their children to Satan for worldly gifts. Again, Psalms 106:37 is about sacrificing children to demons and not sacrifices in general. If God were against human sacrifices, why did He ask Abram to do so though he stopped him? Based on the Bible, we can see that if God wanted a human blood sacrifice, he would allow it. But God doesn't allow it due to His grace, mercy, and love for his earthly children.
      "God cannot become human and God is invisible and indivisible". This is true. Jesus is not God. That is a Satanic lie coming from the Orthodox/ Catholic "Church". Many Christians believe this lie because the Catholic Church tortured or even killed anyone who did not accept this lie. Today, non Trinitarians are socially tortured or killed.

  • @MK-cm7lx
    @MK-cm7lx 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey, thank you for the content. I want to start my conversation process soon but i dont know which jew i wanna be. I feel observent but we dont have this here in germany... orthodox and reform only. And the longtherm goal is definitely moving to israel

  • @psycleen
    @psycleen 3 місяці тому

    poor some sugar

  • @nahumhabte6210
    @nahumhabte6210 Рік тому +1

    How about Israel giving jewish muslims citizenship, or jewish christians citizenship?

    • @christo-chaney
      @christo-chaney 3 місяці тому +1

      There is no such thing. You can’t be a Jew & a Christian at the same time. Same as you can’t be a Jew & a Muslim at the same time.

    • @nahumhabte6210
      @nahumhabte6210 3 місяці тому +1

      @@christo-chaney but you can be jewish atheist? Huh

    • @christo-chaney
      @christo-chaney 3 місяці тому

      @@nahumhabte6210 yes. Many Jews are atheists. They remain Jews because they did not convert to another religion.

    • @AndersenTrades
      @AndersenTrades Місяць тому

      @@christo-chaney so they’re atheists but believe God promised them the land

  • @nitupvladimirevich3192
    @nitupvladimirevich3192 Рік тому +3

    No other country has these
    " parameters " 😂 israel sounds like a nice place 😀

  • @DMC1982
    @DMC1982 Рік тому +1

    #boycottdivestmentsanction

  • @alrosano5786
    @alrosano5786 5 місяців тому

    Who cares?

  • @Buttercup-vw2zo
    @Buttercup-vw2zo Рік тому +3

    Very strange a country that makes you convert to a certain religion before you can become a citizen

    • @ambyean-us3mf
      @ambyean-us3mf Рік тому +10

      Not very weird actually. Conversion to Judaism isn't like most other religions, you're basically joining and assimilating to the Jewish culture/joining the Jewish tribe. At that point immigrating should be just as easy as any other Jew.
      Non-Jews can immigrate too, it's just not as easy. Not much different than someone immigating to any other country they have no connect to. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @catalina1968
      @catalina1968 7 місяців тому

      You don’t have to convert to Judaism to become a citizen.

    • @barneydenstad2148
      @barneydenstad2148 5 місяців тому +2

      How so? Conversion to Islam is practically a must if you wish to be a full citizen in a muslim country. Also being non Jew, you still have a decent chance to be Israeli citizen. Say via working or researching in Israel. But it wont come per automato; you must work and behave.

  • @stephenvillafana9560
    @stephenvillafana9560 4 місяці тому

    When will Israel recognize, Messianic Jews, they follow Yeshua, the Torah

    • @christo-chaney
      @christo-chaney 3 місяці тому +2

      Messianics are not Jews. They don’t follow the Torah is they believe that Jesus is the messiah.
      Bible References to give Christians
      1. One Person Cannot Die for the Sins of Another
      Exodus 32.30-35, Deuteronomy 24.16, Jeremiah 31.29-30, Ezekiel 18 (all), & Psalm 146.3
      2. A Blood Sacrifice Isn’t Needed to Forgive Sins
      Genesis 4.7, Exodus 22.3-14, 34.6-7, Leviticus 5.11-13, Numbers 5.6-7, 14.17-19, 16.47 & 31.50, 1st Samuel 15.22, 2nd Samuel 12.13-16, 1st Kings 8.38-39, 41-43, & 46-50, 2nd Kings 12.16, Isaiah 6.6-7, 55.6-7, Jeremiah 7.22-23, Hosea 14.2, Jonah 3.5-10, Micah 6.6-8, Psalm 32.3-5, 34.14, 51.16-17, 86.5-7 & 15, 103.8, 111.4, 116.5, Proverbs 21.3, 28.13, Job 33.26, Lamentations 3.23, & 2nd Chronicles 7.14
      3. God Will Never Accept a Human Sacrifice
      Deuteronomy 12.30-31, Jeremiah 19.4-6, Ezekiel 16.20, & Psalm 106.37-38
      4. God is One & Indivisible (not a trinity)
      Exodus 20.3, Deuteronomy 6.4, Isaiah 43.11, 44.6, 45.5-7, & Psalm 16.4
      See also the New Testament texts of Matthew 24.36, 26.42, Mark 13.32, Luke 18.19, 23.34, & John 14.28
      5. God Doesn't Become a Human, & Humans Don't Become God
      Numbers 23.19, Ezekiel 28.2, Hosea 11.9, & Malachi 3.6

  • @stevepoopster940
    @stevepoopster940 Рік тому +2

    I'm considering it I have 17 percent Jewish DNA I know 5 skilled trades but have felonies

  • @GazaStrip-ib2vk
    @GazaStrip-ib2vk 5 місяців тому

    No

  • @shahzadmehdi9625
    @shahzadmehdi9625 Рік тому +6

    I want to become Jewish sir I live in karachi pakistan I want to change my religion I was muslim but now I hate islam kindly give me any contact nbr to become the part of Jewish cummunity

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 Рік тому

      Astagfirullah

    • @Lish-mk4jk
      @Lish-mk4jk Рік тому

      are you Sindhi? since you are from Karachi.

    • @skp8748
      @skp8748 Рік тому +1

      @@Lish-mk4jk he's a liar

    • @randomhumanofearth7267
      @randomhumanofearth7267 Рік тому +2

      I don't think they will be any jewish organisations or synagogues in your country in Pakistan so I think u should leave and visit a country which has and then convert there

    • @Nazarene_Judaism
      @Nazarene_Judaism 6 місяців тому +1

      speak to us