Your PC Still Has Windows 95 In It
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Fun fact, those little logos are actually called Icons.
Fun fact, those icons are actually called little logos.
Little icon, those fun facts are called actually
Wow 😮
Actually they're called fun facts, those actual logos@@AoiRozlin
Fun fact, those icons are actually called little pictures with words under them.
The phone dialer has a keypad for a very good reason: if you are calling somewhere that requires you to select menu options.
That's what the keyboard number pad is for. It should still work after dialing.
The program expects numbers and a few symbols. If you type a symbol that it is not expecting it will crash. It is easier to make the buttons with the expected input than disable the keys you are not supposed to type on your keyboard. A lot less work.
@@oardudeOr you can just check if the key is valid and pretend you didn't press anything if it's not valid.
@@IsYitzach And if you don't have a keyboard? If you're using a pointer by blowing into a tube because you're a quadriplegic or something? 🤨 Then what? Open the OSK when the dialer could just have have a keypad built-in?
@@I.____.....__...__ They don't know or care about disabled people, accessibility, or user-friendly intuitive skeumorphic design!
The one app I was shocked Microsoft removed was HyperTerminal, some coworkers refused to upgrade from XP because of this, but once I showed them how great the open source replacements were, they were like PuTTY in my hands.
underrated comment
Yeah, that was one I missed
Welp the advantages of successfully make a program with minimal closed source library that can break anytime is that it will just works and somewhat fixable.
🤢
Problem with HT is that it wasn't owned by MS, but only licensed to be included in Windows up until XP. From Vista onwards you needed to purchase it, and not from MS.
I used to love the pre-XP disk defragmenter because it would let you view a map of the disk blocks and watch as it went through the disk and rearranged stuff.
Windirstat
@@VividFlash WizTree is better nowadays
I love the Windows 93 disk fragmenter as it lets you play snake
I popped the drive out of my old Win95 machine and put it into my brand new XP machine back in the day, I ran the Win95 defrag, and it was super fast on XP.
"Drive contents changed. Restarting."
Another old program worth mentioning is Program Manager. Despite effectively being replaced in Windows 95, it lived on through Windows XP!
*Until Windows XP Service Pack 2
And the guy who mostly made it, is on UA-cam too! @DavesGarage
@@VincentMartens93- he was (one of) the devs who created task manager, but did he do program manager too?
@@UserNameAnonymous Ah wait, I think I got confused between the two.
Task Manager
No, it doesn't, it has Linux.
Winux95
🗿
Linux users trying not to tell the world they use Linux;
Task: Impossible
@@Abu_Brandino yup
I use arch btw
As an IT tech, I find many of the old school elements to be the most helpful.
I still use 15 year old software to break in to new computers (when people forget their passwords, obviously).
Ping and tracert have been around since the 80s.
The fact they are still using the actual Windows 95 graphic says a lot about Microsoft as a company. I think it is utterly pathetic they can't spend 2 minutes making a new icon. Thankfully, we are close to the point where x86 and Windows will just drop off like the necrotic limb they are. They are a day late and a dollar short for WARM (Windows on ARM), and it is more like lukeWARM.
Yeah, the only one of these I don't use is the phone dialer. The rest I use anywhere from every few months to daily.
@@Lurch-Bot "x86 dies and RISC backfills"
I want to believe... truly I do.
If we ditch x6 and we take away the SIM from ARM how will they spy on us though?
Especially control panel and the godmode folder!
The OG "add a printer" menu from the OG control panel still exists. Which is a blessing because the search function is much faster than the modern settings menu.
Nintendo Wiimotes can be used as Bluetooth controllers in windows. When you connect to them it asks for the password but the password is nothing. Settings menu doesn't let you proceed with nothing in the text field but the control panel version does. Love the old control panel
funny but why
If you are adding a print driver, even via the newer Settings menus and then select "Have Disk..." it will revert to "A:" if you haven't got a previously remembered folder in it - back to the good old floppy disk days.
But nowadays everything is plug and play, you either connect wirelessly to the printer or just plug it in and it works. That feature is useless today.
@@sylver369Or another outcome is that it doesn't work.
Retro computer enthusiast my rear... My dad still has dial-up Internet at home, because it's the only affordable option for rural South Carolina, when you live in a valley and can't get cell signal.
Time to get starlink! (or wait for it's competitors to become viable if you don't wanna make Elon richer)
Yeah, internet in rural areas is still quite lacking. I live in a rural area and we didn't get fiber until like a year and a half ago. The other options were satellite or awful DSL (3mbps on a good day .7mbps on a bad day) but the problem with the DSL besides it's speed was the price. CenturyLink only had tiers available for "High Speed internet" with that nice little asterisk by it '*Some areas do not have high speeds, FU.' They charged 80$ a month for it, it would be all cool if they had priced it accordingly but CenturyLink are crooks like most modern telecom companies. Oh yeah, they also stole a bunch of money from the state and fed to 'expand rural broadband' with and then did absolutely nothing, if only giant companies actually got punished for being thieves.
I hope it's at least a DSL and not 56k.
I remember those days it was pre-2000 and my modem wouldn't connect past 32K, crappy phone service, I also remember when I upgraded past 2400 buad to 9600 and I had to have the phone company come out a fix the lines. They wouldn't do it since they didn't support past 28,800. So when my city went to cable internet, I signed up to be one of the first to get it. Back then it was only $5 more than a phone and a dial-up service. I dropped the dedicated phone line for the modem.
Wait what?
I was a beta tester for Windows 95. The first couple beta releases were on about 20 floppy disks. It was such an upgrade from Dos and Win 3.11.
But it was also a disk grinder - win3.1 asked for a lot less
Floppy disks? Don't you mean "3D printed save icons"?
and those diskettes used proprietary format, so they stored not 1.44MB but actually 1.8MB each.
@@mexmer3223 A memory jogger. I had forgotten that.
@@mexmer3223The format wasn't completely proprietary in the sense of Microsoft-only though, I used a DOS package named fdformat and the fdread TSR that could let me format some of my own.
Windows 95 screensavers still run happily on windows 10 today! They've also kept all of the old icons within dll files in system32. Although my personal favourite is the fact that drives A and B are still reserved for floppy drives as a holdover from the IBM PC days. If you plug in a USB floppy drive into windows 10 it'll show up as drive A. :)
that's only if they're not 16bit, which some are :(
the worst part is that sometimes Win9X programs are 32 bit but the installer is 16bit, so basically impossible to install without pulling some mad hax
Whoa, the character map is actually super useful and something I would've used a ton if I knew it was there.
I used it last Sunday to get up and down arrows in a project for work. Comes in handy.
win + . is the modern replacement. Handy, because it lists the recently used symbols so typing in often used weird symbols is very fast.
@@IamR3D88 For some reason, I thought you were about to say you used charmap last Sunday to the OP's mother. 😂
It so amazingly useful that pin it to the taskbar right next to the calculator. Underrated Windows feature to be sure!
Never knew the Alt Codes were shown in the bottom corner of the Character Map window.
What still blows my mind, is the cornerstone of Windows today is Vista. The installer, file system, and even many programs are identical. Windows 11 still oddly still includes all the vista/7 sounds in the media folder.
I realize there are remnants of even older OS’s in it, but Vista is the framework
There was a major change to how drivers worked with the OS that started with Vista. Ultimately it was an important and more secure way of doing things, but it caused a lot of early adoption issues. 7 was basically Vista 1.1, basically the same deal under the hood in a lot of ways, but by then 3rd party drivers were more compatible with the changes.
This is why I never liked any Windows after Windows XP
@@zugy I agree
@@zugyIndeed, but was Windows 7 a bigger upgrade than Windows 11? I'd tend to say yes, but I'm not entirely sure since I don't remember Vista too much.
@@zugy “Windows 7” was literally Windows NT 6.1!
You forgot Paint. I use it every day for animation.
Paint has a new ui now
Windows Paint, comes from as far back as Windows 1, along with its partner, Calculator.
Maybe Write/WordPad will come back as freeware like File Manager?
Animation?
@@bandito241 Yes
Yay! We used to create cartoons in Paint some 20 years ago! That was fun!
Wanna mention that a much more common usecase for phone modems nowadays are fax servers. Very common in the medical and dental industries, at least here in Canada.
These medical professionals who still use fax are horrific. Are they still practicing medicine the same way they did in 1993?
@@Charleigh_CopleyCouldn't you just send it via US Postal Service?
FAX machines are used primarily because of their security. They cannot be hacked. Both medicine and legal services use FAX.
@@UltimatePerfection Yep!
Until a few years ago, the only computer in my family doctor's office was a 1993 Macintosh Classic II!
@@UltimatePerfection - Postal service isn't fast enough, and the medical profession is (as a whole) distrustful of encryption because it may not be end-to-end, but they know a fax is. Nevermind how easy it is to listen in on fax tones in flight. And with painful fines for violating HIPAA they prefer the simplicity of faxing, even if most systems start and end with an email to the fax service these days.
I use a lot of these on the regular because I'm old-skool. But one that's been REALLY handy is the Windows XP era Photo Viewer, which you can re-enable with a simple registry setting. It was very useful in the early days of Windows 10 when the Microsoft Store Apps would all break and nothing would load. And until someone published the PowerShell command to reparse the whole manifest, the easiest way around it was the XP Photo Viewer so people could still function. (I work in corporate IT support)
I think one of the most amusing things is that the modern settings app in windows is just running calls to control panel the whole time
Great job windows, you did it.
I knew this, and is why I hate the settings app. I always go to control panel anyway.
Is that true? That's hilarious!
So once again chill guys, this is misleading info from someone who has no idea what they are talking about.
Settings is completely independent. However what he accidently was referring to is how a few links in settings will bring you back to control panel.
I love spreading misinformation 🥰
I very much hope that MS doesn't eliminate Notepad. I use Notepad on a regular basis because I find it helpful to remove formatting from text when cutting and pasting. Way back when I first got a PC, I used Word Perfect but ended up switching to Word because that was what my work computers had. These days, I use Open Office. But whenever I want to cut and paste from a website into Open Office, I first paste into Notepad, than copy from there and then paste into Open Office. That has worked well for me for a very long time.
Wordpad is what MS is removing, not Notepad.
Watch as I save this guy a half hour every year for the rest of their life:
CTRL+SHIFT+V
Most the time you should get it as an option in your right click menu, but basically what it does is pastes plain text without the formatting from what was copied.
There's a ton of shortcuts on windows with various key combos. I'm sure you can find some videos that mention this, and more, on LTT or techquickie.
In many programs, Ctrl+Shift+V is "Paste unformatted"; it's also often in the right-click menu for where you're pasting to.
Searching around, it looks like OpenOffice might use Ctrl+Alt+Shift+V, with the Paste Special menu button as another option. But it also has a setting to make Ctrl+V paste unformatted.
I use LibreOffice myself, so I'll add to this after I check what _it_ does for "paste unformatted".
@@Phalanx443I'm aware that it is Wordpad that is being removed. I was just saying I would be unhappy if they someday choose to get rid of Notepad.
@@AaronOfMpls I recently learned about pasting unformatted text, but in Open Office it brought up a menu to choose what kind of unformatted text I wanted. I should probably just use that ctrl shft v shortcut, but I have been using Notepad for decades.
A lot of these 'old' apps are elegant in their simplicity and overall footprint. A much more efficient approach to software design compared to the bloat of today!
So good until that last one. The defragger was very different in 95. It actually, almost sadistically, defragged the drive, carefully organizing free space and files. Even had a neat interface to watch it up close. One I've never seen duplicated. The windows NT version just does "good enough"
I use O&O defrag. You can view a map of the drive and see where files are.
Norton system works from 2003 had a defrag like that too
This is so true,defragger in newer windows are so bad.Doing defragment is same as not doing it.Cause ur hard drive still works very slow even after doing defragment in newer windows os.
Yeah! I won't comment on its effectiveness, I was under the impression that the newer one (made in XP ? Vista ? 7 ?) was better. But yeah, it's basically a completely redone app. Unlike the others which are still mostly the same they were in Windows 95.
LOTS of 3rd-party programs duplicated that behavior. I used to like VoptXP which was the most effective and powerful derangementer of its time which gave _much more_ control than most other defraggers.
I still use character map a lot, I work with some remote systems without internet access, and sometimes even 3 or 4 "remote connections" deep, that special keys just get lost over so many remote connections, so when I need to do an @ or # I just open character map and copy from there.
I also really like the modern addition of the emoticon character map (which you can open with Win + . ) 😀
Also useful for obscure symbols for passwords (as long as your phone has the same symbols available-not all do).
The day they discontinue Phone Dialer and relaunch it under the Office 365 subscription model is the day I'll find a new OS
Try Linux
Funny thing is that Notepad was actually updated in Windows 11. It functions very similar to sticky notes just without some of the rich text features and pretty colors.
So when can i boot into 95 and just enjoy it?
Right now. Someone managed to compile win95 to WebAssembly, so you can run it in a browser tab.
or use a virtual machi- oh wait, modern processors cant run windows 95 inside virtual machines
@@rikschaaf Is there a way to have it normally
Like a dual boot?@@rikschaaf
_pcem_
_pcem_
Sorry, had something in my throat.
I'm a graphic designer, still use character map regularly. It useful for checking if the fonts you wanna use have some specific character you need or not. Which far easier than checking on google.
Wait, Character Map is kind of awesome. Filtering symbols is so easy too, and there I was looking up greek letters and circumflex accents on Google when I had this all the time
Yeah, I use character map almost every day. No idea why anyone would want to google that shit when you can do it locally.
there's a better third party one, called Babelmap, which pairs great with Babelpad. Somehow I managed to extract all of the fonts from Babelpad, so along with all of Microsoft's suplemental fonts, I have fonts for nearly every language.
Win + . does the same thing
its amazing how much code from 90's windows are still in windows 11/10 today, and how a app from windows 95 can be installed and run on a OS nearly 30 years older.
You mean almost 30 years newer?
*Your PC Still Has Windows 95 In It*
Me: but im on linux..
And here it is: The linux snob....
jk, I use manjaro...
@@raminatox And here it is: another linux snob...
Jk i use Arch
@@SethTheKitsuneAnd here it is: another linux snob...
Jk i use Android
@@not2hot99And here it is again: another linux snob...
jk, I use Pop!_OS
And here it is: The linux snob
jk, I use arch btw
I work in IT and we still use Notepad for config files, Batfiles and scripts, just as a quick editing tool for short texts when you do not need word for anything fancy
joystick/gamepad calibration is still exactly the same
its in control panel(small icons)-> (rightclick)devicec and printers (open)-> (rightclick) conrtoller(game controller settings)-> properties
I don't mind that. Backward compatibility is a good thing. When I realise how people were talking about old mediums and how we will no longer have a proper way to read from them and get some historical backups, if this backward compatibility will hold up there will be no problem.
you can still use a Floppy Drive in Windows 10 and 11, and will use defrag to sqeeze data into a compressed drive
Actually, Microsoft removed the disk defragmenter in Windows NT 4 that the current versions of Windows are based on. For Windows 2000 they either purchased or licensed the third-party defragmenter that everyone was using on Windows NT 4.
Keep in mind that the file system on NT and it's ofspring (NTFS) was NOT the same as the older file system from MS-DOS that Win 95 inherited.
A WIn95 based defragger WOULD NOT WORK on NT.
2000 was "combined" from WIn98 and from NT4, it and all of the later versions had both file systems available to hard drives, depending on which you selected when you formatted the drive.
CHARMAP (Character Map) is probably the most UNDERRATED thing in Windows! I pin that puppy to the taskbar on EVERY Windows install!
I've been using Windows since the Windows 98 era, which was around 1999, but this is the first time I have seen the dialer. Funny thing is, I used to have a dial-up connection at home back in 2004-2005, but still never knew about it. Always used the physical land phone for calls.
This video definitely needs a part 2, 3... as long as it goes.
yep i've been using windows for years and this is the first I've heard of it. And yep it opened up on my Windows 11.
0:30 "A keypad to click the digits one at a time for some masochistic reason..."
This dude has never heard of phone trees? Press 1 for English?
He means clicking each digit instead of just typing them on the keyboard
1 There's a one from my num pad. I'll be surprised if that didn't work.
@@IsYitzach It's nice that you have a numpad, but not everyone does, some people don't even have keyboards at all, in fact, some people don't even have hands.
It's like NOBODY remembers accessibility is a thing. 😒
@@I.____.....__...__ how many keyboards dont have the number row above the letters?
There is a keypad that one can click on the modern "Phone Link" Windows app that does the same thing, except for a linked cellphone rather than a landline phone. I use it often!
I was confused by the title because I thought the video was going to be about kernels, and Windows hasn't used the Windows 95 MS-DOS kernel since Windows ME (released in 2000).
Why did you think that?
@@sebclot9478 Because they said "Windows 95 in it". People usually refer to something being IN an OS if it's part of the OS, whereas applications are usually referred to as being ON an OS.
For example, if someone is using someone else's computer, the temporary user would ask the owner "Do you have Edge on here" if Edge is their favorite web browser, not "Do you have Edge in here", even though Edge comes with Windows.
As a result, my mind went searching for what from Windows 95 could possibly still be IN a modern OS. There are lots of potential answers to this, but kernels and drivers are the main 2 topics that UA-cam videos cover when covering the internals of an OS, and I knew for certain that modern drivers are very different from Windows 95 drivers, but I was less certain about the kernel.
Control Panel forever!
System Restore, Task Scheduler, Task Manager, Registry Editor and the list goes on.
Task Manager got a pretty big overhaul though. I can't remember if it was a W11 change or one of the newer editions of W10, but it's reasonably different to the old one.
The others I definitely agree with.
I use RegEdit fairly often.
System Restore was introduced in ME
@@samhobday1274Task Manager got a major overhaul in 8, and again in 11, though you can still run Windows 8 Task Manager in Windows 11 by running the 32-bit version in Smthe SysWOW64 folder
Part 2 please.
fun fact: the "ß" symbol is actually a ligature, meaning it's 2 characters combined. you see, before my time on earth, we had something called a long-s and it looked like f but we still also had the normal s and for some reason f and s combined into fs -> ß, commonly called a "sharp s"
today, you should be able to replace the ß with double s, retaining the meaning. great if you need to write german with a non-german keyboard lacking that key.
example: "scheiße" or "scheisse" both are valid and mean shit.
Schön, daß das geht. Oh wait, wir hatten 2006 ne Rechtschreibreform?
@@bspringer ich war damals 1999 in der ersten klasse, also hab ich die reform von 1996 gelernt. mir war garnicht bewusst das da später noch was geändert wurde 😅
laut wikipedia wars 2004 und dann 2006.
It is actually ʃ rather than f. Historically ʃ was used in the middle of a word and s at the end.
Something else that's still in Windows 11 that was in 95. Most of the damn interface that they didn't replace or update, but just added new stuff along side it even if it does the same thing. So we have multiple interfaces for the same thing. The goddamn screensaver settings being a perfect example.
I just now remembered Phone Dialer! I used to call everyone from there when I was a kid. It was so much cooler than the poorly grounded fake rotary phone we had. Because it would shock your lip every time it gets within half an inch of the microphone.
I remember copying Write from Windows 3.1 to Windows 98 because it had features that Wordpad didn't have.
One thing that is also super old now is the menus you get when you boot Windows from a USB stick to install it. Even if it’s the latest Win11 ISO some of that menus and icons came out with Windows 7!
but they are actually from windows vista. the installer is unchanged since nt 6.0
Also the same when you do a Windows Defender scan offline from what I remember.
@@Jaguarek62 you're right, I even knew it was from Vista but my mind told me to write 7 for some reason.
That said it's still almost 20 years old and I know it might sound like something minor but as someone that often installs and formats computers seeing they still haven't updated that to something more modern with the current UI is crazy.
That phone dialer seems like a true vestige of the old days of Windows. It's cool that it still exists even though its practical use in today's world may be limited.
The character map is extremely useful for looking up and pulling out weird specialty characters. I used to love browsing it just for fun. And I also love that weird German "S" that looks like a "B". You need it in order to spell "Scheiße!" properly.
Notepad and WordPad are the ones I use most frequently though. I still use Notepad to this day for typing quick notes on my laptop, and I also use WordPad to type drafts for short stories I write in my spare time.
The "replacement" for Character Map on Windows 10 is hitting the Windows key + the dot (.) key on the keyboard. It's usually used for emoji but it has a section for symbols. It's not really a replacement if you want a specific character from Windings, for example, but if you want the trademark symbol or something like that, it's very quick and simple to use.
The screen saver UI is also quite old
Speaking of which, I missed those old screensavers. Windows 7 bubble screensaver was my fav.
A lot of legacy code had to be re-written to work with the transition to NT and then 64-bit, and with Microsoft rewriting many components in Rust now we will lose more and more of the old Windows code.
There is the Math Input Panel in Windows 10, which stays unchanged from its Windows Vista version. I believe you can also access the Math Input Panel in Windows 11 through Word
If you really need that German symbol for double s (weird B), just hold down ALT and press 0223 on your numpad. I'm on my phone right now and can't do it.
But I used it so much 17 years ago while making German assignments that it's seared into my memory.
I wonder if Windows will ever add a Compose key, like I've gotten used to having in Linux. It makes for more intuitive shortcuts for these characters, like [Compose]+[s]+[s] for _ß,_ or [Compose]+[o]+["] for _ö._
(I set my right Windows key as Compose, since Unicomp keyboards put it in a convenient size and place for it.)
Alt+225 does the job as well.
@@AaronOfMpls set your keyboard to International English (US Intl with dead keys) on Windows and the alt graphic key to the right of the spacebar becomes the compose key.
On the phone just long press the S to get the ß eszett
this works for all the accented characters on a smartphone. just long press the character to get the extended characters
@@katamsterdamI set up 3 keyboards, English (United States), English (United States) United States-International and Greek to cover most of what I need. It's easy enough to toggle when I need to do so, unfortunately, I usually don't recall how to compose the Greek characters when I need them. English International is pretty easy to use, but I keep the generic English around because International keyboard is a PITA when you are programming.
I do miss the old keyboards that included the compose key though. Ironically, I had no idea how to use it back then.
Who else loaded phone dialer just to see it?
For the phone diaper to work you need a landline and a connection to a phone port. My apartment don’t have that port 😂
...and wipes
I've been using PC's since 1982. I'm amazed you didn't mention the "command prompt" and it's obvious extension, "BATCH Files" *.bat,. I still use batch files on a weekly basis.
It's funny that Windows 95 was 29 years ago and I was born in 95 and I'm 29 today in 2024.
So if Windows was 28 years ago where's Windows 94?
The closest thing to a Windows 94 would have been Windows for Workgroups 3.11
But I think that came out in 1992 or 1993.
Let’s not forget our savior task manager. I think most take it for granted, but task manager has been around for ages already and has served many well.
Yes it underwent some facelifts but it’s basic purpose has remained the same
Sure, but it got a complete remake in Windows 8.
It's one of the windows I've kept open pretty much all the time since my computer in 2019 had some issues
The person who created the original task manager David Plummer has an excellent video called "Inside Task Manager with the Original Author" on the history of Task Manager on the Channel Dave's Garage. He came onboard during the Windows 95 days.
The current version just stops responding if I leave it open over night on the 96-core
That’s not that old. On 95 or 98 was just like alt-tab with the ability to kill (pardon terminate) applications
No, my PC has Linux
Linux has stuff that's even older than Windows 95.
A lot of distros have ed installed which afaik is the oldest text editor that's still maintained. It was originally written in 1969.
If Wordpad had the ability to insert and modify tables, I wouldn't even use a proper wordprocessor app
I often use Windows Fax & Scan from Vista for scanning documents, since its much faster and less bloated than modern scanning programs
Have you tried the Scanner program in Windows? It literally only scans.
Windows 11 still ships with moricons.dll, which is a collection of icons for DOS apps in Windows 3.0.
Heck, I was still using those in Windows 7 (along with a few icons from the Windows 95/98 Plus! themes). They came in handy for shortcuts to DOS games I was launching through DOSBox.
(These days I run Linux, and haven't bothered to make shortcuts to my DOS games -- beyond making .bat files for within DOSBox itself, anyway.)
There are UA-camrs that have made upgrades from dos all the way up to 10/11 on the same machine, oddly components that stopped working in one version regained functionality in later versions with compatibility modes.
Will the fax modem on laptops work for dialer?
Character map is useful, saves you having to remember the key code/combo to generate it.
3:55 Sequential read speed can be *orders of magnitude* higher than random read speed. SSDs do suffer from fragmentation - the problem it that wearing them with defrag is a worse option than suffering the drop in performance.
People think performance is the only issue and forget about data-recovery. 🤦
SSDs work in a way that defragmantation has ZERO EFFECT on their speeds.
There is ZERO need to defrag them.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Nope. Sequential read speeds are orders of magnitude higher than Random read speeds (100 MB/s RRS vs 7000 MB/s SRS as an extreme example). Your SSD is fragmented = files are spread in random chunks = they are read at Random read speeds = that is slower.
@@bricefleckenstein9666in simple words, there is an index which has information about physical location of files. Fragmented files have a lot of such addresses that SSD Controller needs to access which does reduce speed. Even RAM slows down when it comes to random access but not as much as SSD as RAM has wider bus width ( more pins for data transfer)
@@swapnilkumar9363 Tue real world difference isn't orders of magnatude in modern SSDs.
I did underestimate the difference - it CAN be 3x-5x different (taking real world numbers from the Samsung EVO 960 in multiple tests).
It does seem very odd to see such a big difference on a device that takes NANOSECONDS to access each data block in either mode - and for most folks you'd never notice the difference.
Defragging does have the "damage the device due to the writes" issue either way, and THAT there is no way around.
Wear leveling also renders the "speed increase" less than you might expect as sometimes the 'sequential' block really isn't.
I actually used Phone Dialer as an example in Feedback Hub because its ancient UI isn't High DPI Aware, and I sent a comparison between Windows 11 23H2 and Insider Preview to show that 200% non-aware scaling has a bug in the upcoming version.
Solitaire? 🤔
No cuz it has Linux, the best OS
Nobody cares
4:00 actually, if the SSD gets REALLY fragmented this CAN cause performance issues. But this is most likely to happen in servers rather than home PCs.
There are other issues involved in cases like that, NOT the "fragmentation" itself.
Probably you have one or more bad sectors that didn't get a chance to get "rotated out of usage", or it's an old SSD that didn't have the "rotate spare sectors in place of dead ones automatically and internally" option.
I quite literally used the disk defragmentor while servicing a customers computer today 💀
I used it on my old old desktop last year, and my laptop a few months ago
There was a guy who used the group policy editor to lock down every single policy, and basically the only usable program was WordPad.
Defragmentation can still be useful on a SSD if you desperately want to resize a partition. Another important tool to know about, though, is SDelete, which writes garbage into the free space on the disk to prevent recovery of deleted files. It will be similarly intensive on the SSD, but it’s for security instead of screwing around with partitions. SDelete is not topical to this video, though,
that phone dialer reminded me of phone dialling bombing back in late 90s early 2000s back on dialup 😂
On the modern Phone Link app in Win 11, you can STILL dial your phone by mousing the phone keypad!
Thanks for making me feel super old.
Did you use CP/M or RT-11?
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Well .. let's just say I had a 300 baud modem for my C-64 lol .. right next to the audio cassette tape data storage drive.
@@THE-X-Force I had the Commmodore 300 for a while, don't think I ever bothered with the cassette drive.
But that was about the 5'th computer I used regularly, behind a S-100 bus machine, a Kaypro II then a IV, and a TRS-80.
I didn't end up with the Xerox 820 motherboard or the Bigboard and BigBoard II machines 'til after I had the C64.
I Like this series. I think you should go through each version (not all at once) and go through the changes and updates about the versions as well as what was left behind from the programs of yesteryear on the OS's. An in-depth look at what makes each operating system unique would be rather interesting. Since windows 10 and Windows 11 feel essentially the same, most people feel burned when they have to pay for it. I know there are differences under the hood but it's hard to know what has, and hasn't changed. Thanks for taking your time in reading this message LTT team.
Nice one and helpful. I have been using nearly all of them since the mid 1990's, but dropped dialer in the mid 2010's...
I regularly use Charmap up to this day. Very useful, still :D
Funnily enough, Windows 11 still includes (with a registry tweak) the Windows 10 taskbar, the Windows 7, 8 and 10 clock flyout, wifi flyout, quick settings, and even the Windows 10 start menu. Meaning, it's not just not-updated software, but even suplicated software: the old and new version
And this is why they get hacked daily. 95 source code was leaked 20 years ago.
One alternate replacement for Character map is just pressing WinKey+;
At least I don't have to match fonts and if I use it frequently, like the ñ or ₱, it does store previously used keys.
I would venture that WordPad is good enough for 90% of people writing letters to their landlords, doctors, insurance company, or the editor of their local paper! I use it when Notepad isn't quite enough because I need a bit of formatting...
If they take it away, I will simply launch it from the single executable I will have carried over from my previous Windows. Not everybody needs a whole Office suite!
I use the character map fairly regularly! Sure, you can google and look up all kinds of characters online, but it's handy to have it built into Windows.
my bud told me that the font "segoe boot semilght" has all the frames of windows 11's loading animation, and you can find it using character map!
Character map also lets you create your own fonts. It only shows up on your computer (unless other people install your font) but I used to have a lot of fun making my own fonts and then printing ebooks in those fonts.
Well given the choice between W11 and W95 userinterface, I prefer W95... Then you could place the taskbar at the top of the screen.... and when you click "never combine elements on the taskbar" it will do just that, and not start combining them after the count reaches 16.
Oh, and fonts in wordpad look better than in "word", as wordpad uses a different (and better) form of cleartype.
You don't need a modem to use the dialer. Some phones can be connected to your PC, you install a TAPI driver, and then you can call someone by clicking on their number in your database software, for example.
I still use word pad and note pad. Quick text input instructions and is compatible to anyone I need to send the note to.
There are good reasons for the retention of these old apps - third-world countries and rural areas still use outdated tech like old telephone dial-ups, modems, mechanical drives, floppy disks etc. And old school/enthusiasts still love tinkering with this stuff.
Mentioning apps that have been discontinued or updated falls into the category of clickbait - like the title of this video.
The control panel hasn't changed for years, it needs removing or a revamp
I wouldn't be surprised if it gets removed on newer Win11 versions or the next Windows release, Settings is supposed to be its replacement after all.
@@greyATK That's what people have been saying since windows 10 initial release. Even now, if they flat out remove it, we'd still be missing a lot of features since the settings menu still don't have them. Though, knowing microsoft, they'd do that and worry about the rest afterwards
This should be CELEBRATED.
Microsoft's number one talent according to the media is improving the human experience.
Microsoft's number one talent in point of fact is breaking things that aren't broken.
This is from the people that made the Ribbon. And Windows 8. And untold destruction by MDI ... but they removed Recorder. P. S. XP forever.
I actually have Character Map pinned to my Start menu on most of my computers because I use it so much. I wouldn't have even thought to include it in a list like this.
The Task Manager is mostly unchanged since ancient times. Dave (channel Dave's Garage) has fascinating things to say about it, since he's the one that programmed it way back then.
dialer is still used a bit with phone software/telephone systems in IT. you mostly use it to test CTI/TAPI functionality. you dont necessarily need a modem for that
hell yeah i'm interested, keep 'em coming
Windows has only ever gotten worse.
The advantage of notpad is there are no hidden characters that other word processor insert like carriage return, tab, line break, and page breaks. This makes a difference when you're using it to edit code. Conversely opening something in notpad created in another editor will reveal all the hidden characters--which is also very useful for troubleshooting or doing a find/replace on hidden characters.
I would love to see you do a video on memory from Conventional to UMA/HMA on to Extended and Expanded to what we use now: the PAE. I don't think people realize that x86 can't directly address most of the main memory and the PAE sits in-between the CPU and the RAM as a hardware memory extender... poor memory addressing is now and always has been the x86 bottleneck and they just do some magic hand waving to make people think their CPU can directly address more than the x86 registers can address.
We always want a part 2, it's always good to know what parts of your OS are ancient lol. Tho now I'm wondering if a cellphone plugged into the computer would count as a modem device lol
Yes fort part 2! Loved learning about those hidden Win95 apps!
i use character map approximately once every 12.73 years, but it is the mvp when the time comes that i need it. wordpad i will not miss, it annoys me more than anything. notepad is perfect for anything that needs to be done quick, and is a life saver for removing formatting. anything more complex is handled far better by word, not wordpad.
I still use the character map! It's good for getting some characters that are not on my keyboard's layout.
The 32-bit version of Windows 10 still has DOS built into it.
No, it does not. It has a DOS EMULATOR, not DOS itself.
The last version that had actual DOS was Win98 SE.
The "Item level argeting" Menu in the Group Policy Editor looks like it was copied straight from Win95💀
4:00 Try to copy from a fast NVMe a 100 GiB file to another fast NVMe (with 8GiB/s secuential write speed), if it is low fragmented it takes around 100/8 seconds (near 13 seconds), but if the file is hihly fragmented (26 million fragments) and supose 50K IOP/s, then it will take 26M/50K=520 seconds (near 10 minutes) and that is if the NVMe has a high IOP/s, if it only has 10K IOP/s then it will take five times more (near 44 minutes instead of 13 seconds).
Compare unfragmentes 13 seconds copying time to 44 minutes because it is fragmented... in such cases defragmentation on SSD NVMe is higly recomended.
That is just an example... fragmentation cause more IOP to be done... if it is highly fragmented the extra IOP can cause a really high increase in read times.
Rather academic point today, most NVME have IOP up in the 6 digit range and are write speed limited on that large of a file.
Then the write speed drops a lot more once they fill up their "pseudo-SLC" capacity and have to start doing actual MLC/TLC/etc class writes.
Thanks for the video!