It's funny that in "Book of Boba" Boba stayed on Tattooine the entire time when there was no reason for him to do so. But in "Kenobi" Obi-wan leaves at the end of the first episode when there was every reason for him to stay on Tattooine.
he was recovering from his sarlacc-tenancy and then trying to find a way to hold up honour and revenge his fallen sand-family an...... oh god i wish he left Tatooine 😭😭
Lol nah - him "staying on Tatooine for 50 years" isn't necessarily how it should've been, but along with "he lost his force mojo" the way they did it was a bit quite jarring; happened too fast or idk
@@fatrick9001 No, no, no, not your _positive_ expectations, you see. Just.... Your expectations. Facts don't exist, math is evil, I fuckin' hate Trump, and it's only your opinion Obi-Wan should've been that way. It's not about what you want, it's about what *_we_* want! 😈😈😈
even with a Disney level budget they can’t seem to think of good new planets and rely on old ones.. also what’s with heir obsession over deserts? why does every place have to be a flat barren wasteland? if you really want do do a desert, at least make it interesting? I could believe that something like the glass desert in slime rancher would exist in Star Wars and would probably be doable since Disney money, but I guess not
I mean, to be fair to this show, they leave Tatooine in the first episode and it seems like the rest of the series will take place on other planets in the galaxy. they HAVE to start on Tatooine, though, because that's where Obi-Wan is. it's a shit show, and easy to shit on, just make sure you aim your shit properly
@@WrathofArchon Tatooine wasn't even this barren of a wasteland in the originals The scene where R2 gets captured by the Jawa for ecample shows us a different environment other than the flat boring desert
The reason that woman stopped screaming after her hand got cut off, is because she put on her new robot hand she got from the Cyberpunk 2077 mod shop guy.
But was it a jackhammer hand,like the biker's foot from boba fett? Doe SHE now automatically get a garishly coloured space Vespa and become founder of their gang????
I like how the inquisitor orchestrated the kidnapping of Alderan royalty, the daughter of an esteemed and influential senator, and she isn't immediately executed or imprisoned by any of the other inquisitors for this.
For no reason either. At least that the Inquisitors know of. To not even question her as to why she would cause such needless (in their minds) strife is mind boggling
They bring it up in the next episode, the Grand Inquisitor is pissed at what Reva did. The problem in the next episode is they dont subdue her or anything they just let her walk away.
@@miguelzurita3216 Knowing that Alderaan was pretty neutral in it's loyalty to the Empire, I like to think this event turned Bail and the entire planet to full blown assist with the rising Rebellion. That's how much of a cockup job, Reva did.
I’m really confused by Obi-Wan simultaneously having given up hope on the Jedi being able to return (which I can understand) and yet simultaneously insisting to Owen that Luke must be trained. Which is it?
My best guess is that he's lying to the younger Jedi to try to keep him from doing something stupid. Though saying "I have a plan, but for now we need to stay hidden" would probably be a lot more persuasive.
he wants to train luke cause he senses doing so is essentail to stopping the empire, but doesn't believe that the jedi order can be ressurrected even if they overthrow the empire.
Contrivance counter: 1. Despite the hundreds of Clone troopers attacking the temple, the Jedi have no alarm or warning. 2. The Clone troopers are made incompetent so the younglings can escape. 3. The Grand inquisitor's exposition dump. Out of an entire planet they know which city and even which room to search. 4. The Jedi using the force with no subtlety. 5. His escape. 6. The inquisitors terrorize citizens in Hutt space without consequence. 7. Reva is disobedient without consequence. 8. The inquisitors question a random civilian who happens to be Owen Lars. 9. This is just after his conversation with Kenobi. 10. The Jedi just finds Kenobi despite Kenobi being in hiding. 11. Leia, the young princess, goes running in the woods with zero supervision. 12. She hasn't been taught stranger danger. 13. The entirety of the chase sequence. 14. Bail Organa, the royal senator, can't find anyone to trust to rescue his daughter aside from the in hiding Kenobi. He knows why Kenobi is in hiding but asks him to come out anyways. And as a Jedi, Kenobi would garner much more attention than literally anyone else. 15. He wants to keep his daughter's kidnaping a secret despite the dead guard and servants who work with Leia, despite the additional help he could receive to rescue his daughter, and despite how unnatural he's acted should any of this be leaked. 16. Reva knew exactly how Bail would react. She is aware of his sympathy for the Jedi yet no action has been taken against him as an Imperial Senator. Despite the hundreds of people both Bail and Obi-Wan came into contact with during the Clone Wars, she knows they have a special relationship that will successfully draw Obi-Wan out of hiding.
Regarding clones: from the Traviss EU Clone Commando novels, the Battle of Coruscant was a trap for Grievous prepared by gigantic accounting fraud to keep the buildup secret; this coincided with the Kamino contract winding down, and Sparti Cylinders set up on the planet itself, with radically shortened growth cycles, which increase abnormalities, aggression, efficiency, ect. This was probably how the contingency order brain chips seen in the Clone Wars animated series was implemented at scale -- longer lived Kamino clones notice they seem off, too, but the contingency orders are fine print they don't fuss about (only the Commandos really have the wherewithal and relatively unadulterated gene set to question and act on it freely.) OT era clones are cheap and disposable, and reliant on flash training simulations; basically babies with blasters, and commensurate spatiovisual noobs, despite being fully formed, which even experience can't redress fully.
You may have missed the point of the prequels. The point was that the Jedi were high on their own hubris. They had no warning system because they didn’t think they needed one. They were a completely defunct system. So much of their system was terribly designed, which was intentional, the Jedi were supposed to fail in the prequels, which they did. It was a commentary on Europe I believe. This beautiful utopia, gets into a devastating war and wipes itself out (ww2). The OT was a commentary on the US, the empire is the US and the rebels were the Vietnamese. How these plucky Vietnamese rebels could destroy the full might of the US military. Look into the politics, George admitted that he based many of the characters on political figures, like Bill Clinton etc
@@johntonssen7231 But this was years into the Clone Wars and shortly after the battle of Coruscant. I'd have to rewatch it, but I'm pretty sure they had a rudimentary lockdown system in the Clone Wars when Cad Bane pulls off the Holocron Heist. I agree with you on the political aspects, that the Jedi were complacent in their ways and doomed to fail by the ultimate plan of the Sith. But even so, I think meditating in the temple whilst it is currently under attack and being completely unaware is too much of a stretch. At the very least, I'd expect them to hear gunfire and screams and sense a disturbance in the force. The younglings in ROTS at least tried to hide from the Clone Troopers.
Leia, the being of pure kindness and respect, so much so she thanks droids, 9 years from now calls Chewie a "walking carpet". I guess her cousin was right.
To play devil's advocate, when she called him walking carpet it was in the middle of a stressful situation where she was on the run and bickering with Han not taking her seriously. When they manage to get rid of the pursuing TIE fighters assuring they escaped the Death Star for good, she happily embraces Chewie.
@@DeepEye1994 Nothing can excuse racial slurs. 'Walking carpet' is to Wookiees as the n-word (hard r, with whip crack) is to black people or 'Freedo' to Italians.
@@robertlewis6915 PFFFFT sorry but I need evidence it was something as bad an actual slur against Wookies (if it's outside the films, I don't care. If a game or some obscure comic decided to take Leia's comedic insult and turn it into something else, that's stupid), given that there's plenty hairy alien species in SW, hell you could call "walking carpet" a bear or a big dog. Racism and racial slurs are a social phenomenon. ONE single person does not constitute a race, and one person does not constitute a society. I'm pretty sure that if Chewie was a cyborg with a breather mask like Vader and Leia said "Get this metal face out of my way!" it'd be the same thing, just a stress-induced malicious nickname. This idea that it's racism is absolutely new to me and I'll be honest, it's pretty dumb. And if you say "Well, she didn't give him the medal, so she totally hates Wookies deep down!" congrats, I'm taking your points even less seriously.
@@sockpocketpre-alpha8258 Even if she wasn't, I wouldn't really care if she liked droids as a younger girl? I can kinda see her do that? It's not THAT much of a stretch? Mind you, I hate Disney Star Wars very much, but one thing is making Han super pathetic smuggler and getting him killed by his own son and regressing Luke into a grumpy idiot who was tempted to kill his nephew instead of talking to his mother, the other is a small girl liking droids because they're essentially big living toys to her, but then growing up, experiencing the horrors of war and not having that innocent outlook anymore, if I'm not mistaken it's something very common in real life, that people grow up and maybe don't feel the same way about liking something. I'm all for pointing out character contradictions, but only if they're ACTUALLY very questionable and contrived to allow the stupid story to happen (again Luke in TLJ), in comparison to Disney's other actual fuck-ups, Leia liking droids as a smaller girl is not problematic. If it was part of a good show/movie, I'm pretty sure nobody would care. "Know when to fold them" as they say. Don't worry, this Kenobi show still sucks for other reasons, I just find unnecessary making a big deal out of minor things that in a better piece of media wouldn't bother anyone. I guess I'm just a perfectionist, I want to hear good points as to why something is fundamentally broken, but I'm bothered by non-issues being blown out of proportion because it distracts from the bigger issues.
Metal's incredulous "did they CGI soup?!?" had me rolling. Also, Fringy's comment on the Previously On the Prequels segment: "Do they think that nobody knows this?"
So let me get this straight, Reva had a suspicion that Bail Organa had some connection with Obi Wan because they were on the same side of a GALACTIC war. So she devises a plan to kidnap Leia because she assumed that Bail because she ASSUMED it would draw specifically Kenobi out. Reva came up with this plan without considering watching where Bail Organa went after the kidnapping... This alongside her coincidentally assuming Owen knows something seriously makes me think that Reva has the saga's script in her pocket.
It doesn’t make sense that reva would think kenobi would be drawn out by leia just because he knew bail. He was a Jedi Master so of course he knew some senators but he wouldn’t risk everything for their random kid. The only reason it makes sense is if reva knows that leia is anakins daughter, there’s no way she can know that but the audience does so the plot hole goes over most people’s heads.
The thing is, if Bail's connection to obi wan was known to so strong that one could reasonably believe that he both 1) has a means of communicating with him and 2) would be willing to come out of hiding in order to help him get his daughter back, Vader(or the emperor) would have already done it
@@socialjihad5724 and yet despite the strong evidence now that they have this strong connection I doubt anyone will follow up with this after this incident.
The pre-Disney novel Kenobi just had him save one town of moisture farmers on Tatooine from Sand People, Seven Samurai style. No galaxy-spanning adventures, no Sith, no prodigy Leia. That idea of replacing Luke in a prequel actually happened in the recent Marvel 40K comic. Marneus Calgar, future Chapter Master of the Ultramarines, Marvel killed off as a boy and secretly replaced him with some guy named Bob.
That would’ve been incredibly cool. Like how the Mandalorian leaned into cowboy stuff early on, they could’ve leaned into samurai stuff with the lone Jedi, Kenobi. Too bad they picked a different plot.
Wait so this Bob is the reason that the Smurf marines are so lucky? Also how on earth did this man (if continuity is continued) then deadlift a pylon without the geneseed?
I can definitely see Disney taking Jay’s idea of Luke dying and Obi-Wan replacing him with an identical looking kid. Like how a parent replaces a dead goldfish.
@@zappodude7591 Well no, the only thing this would change is that Luke the baby in the final scene of Episode III isn't the same guy as Luke in the OT. It really wouldn't change anything continuity wise, it'd just be weird and pointless. TLJ wouldn't be affected because Luke would be replaced before the first time we actually meet him.
Reva's logic: "Obi-Wan and Bail shared two scenes of screen time in the Prequels, obviously they're such damn good friends that I'm going to kidnap an imperial senator's daught based entirely on the idea that Bail will ONLY trust and contact Obi-Wan to rescue her."
Seriously though, how does she know that there's a link between Bail Organa and Obi-Wan Kenobi? Wouldn't that raise so many questions in the eyes of the Galactic Empire? Did they know that he facilitated Kenobi's and Yoda's disappearance? And if so, wouldn't Vader, himself, seek out Organa and "question" him about Obi-Wan's whereabouts? Am I missing something, here? I'm so confused by this plot point...
Thus far this show has relied so much on convenience, like why would they even go to tatooine in the first place. Isn’t the whole point of this planet to be so far away from everything that it is the perfect place to hide and is the reason why obi wan didn’t get captured. Also how come they show up the exact location where the Jedi is and somehow also ask Owen about Jedi. It’s so stupid.
@@mourad505 She mentions in episode 2 that she found out that Bail and Kenobi fought together in the Clone Wars from the Imperial Archives. It is the most tentetive and weak link you could base your plan around.
@@nobody2996 Wait, that's even worse... I always thought Kenobi and Organa didn't really know each other that well until Bail hid him and Yoda during the Jedi Purge. And I never watched the Clone Wars series so there might be context that I'm missing, but let me see if I'm understanding this correctly... Bail Organa was close friends and allies with Obi-Wan, Anakin Skywalker's former master, during the Clone Wars; close enough that it was apparently put into record that they fought as allies during the war. Let's just gloss over that this guy was a senator during the war. He "fought" in the Clone Wars??? How??? In what capacity??? Was he a soldier, a general??? Were they running low on clones and started conscripting VIP's within the government to "fight"??? Also, did he give up his senate seat and monarchy to fight? Or do they mean that Alderran had a standing military that he pledged to the Republic? That's a weird line, a senator "fought" in the war... Let's also gloss over the fact that knowing Obi-Wan so well during the war must've put Bail into regular close contact with Kenobi's partner during the war, Anakin Skywalker. Organa also seemed to be a close colleague of Anakin Skywalker's wife, Padme Amidala. This guy was close with, quite literally, THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN DARTH VADER'S LIFE! Did Vader kind of forget (trademark D&D...) about his existence?! Or did he never know about him to begin with?! Because that's the only way I can imagine Darth Vader never trying to threaten or torture him for any bit of information about a mutual acquaintance! So Darth Vader doesn't give a fuck about Bail Organa, but this fucking rando inquisitor sleuthed around to discover this bit of trivia and decided "Maybe this guy will lead us to Obi-Wan Kenobi"??? Was she also planning to kidnap Dexter fuckin' Jetser too, or anybody else with the slightest bit of association with Kenobi?! These plot holes and contrivances are insane?!
The problem with the 3rd sister knowing Obi-Wan being connected to the Organas basically negates the OT from ever happening. She already connected the dots, there is nothing that stops her and the Empire to go do Alderaan and close shop there, preventing the OT from ever happening.
Especially because the Empire so so anti-Jedi, they wouldn’t even need to cite probable cause or anything, they could just swoop in there and bomb the planet to shit with Star Destroyers.
Exactly. Unless everyone undergoes a big, dumb, convenient mind-wipe so that they can all conveniently forget all of this, I have so many questions about what occurs between this show and A New Hope...
Not to mention, shouldn't it be nearly impossible to kidnap a princess? That by itself should make them not even consider the plan. But thanks to convenience they pulled it off with 3 incompetent bounty hunters who struggled to catch a 10yo. If the guards were watching her like they would have been, this plan can never happen.
Something that annoys me, is that this Inquisitor was able to figure out how to draw out ObiWan so quickly, but did Darth Vader never think to do this? He wants him dead more than anyone.
@@DillsyYourDaddy67 Isn't Senator Bail a traitor to the Empire? It's proven he's working with Kenobi aka a wanted terrorist. Alderaan should be under siege and Bail rotting in the Emperor's dungeon
imagine the conflict of this wasnt big space adventure, but literally just obiwan and owen fighting over lukes future. how fucking interesting would that be?
The Owen v Obi-Wan scene was genuinely the only scene where I was like "This is fucking awesome, more of that please". Spoiler alert: We dont get more of that :(
@@simos6jipros154 Disney knows what the good stuff is for the marketing. That scene got trailer prominence. But they won't actually make the whole product as good as those select few scenes.
a slower paced show would be good, hell even better, what if it was just a timeline of adventures that obi-wan had during his time on tatooine? maybe getting involved in a plot with the hutts somehow and watching over Luke, would be better than this surely
3:02 funny you say that. The EU includes a book called Kenobi, where he is just going around helping people is his town while trying not be found out as a Jedi. The Tuskan Raiders were the bad guys though, so disney wouldn't like it lol
I’m so glad I’m not the only person who had an issue with an open air butcher shop in a desert… like even assuming that the planet has no spoilage from bugs or bacteria like doesn’t the meat get all dusty?
No joke, in Egypt, 20 years ago, was very normal something like that. My father traveled there, always told me he only ate in restaurants because the normal shops has that tendency of exposing the piece in public for everyone to see, flies everywhere. Obviously, he thought it was not healthy search for food there, enen if it was cheaper
Do we know Tatooine is actually covered in sand? Did anyone taste it lol? Maybe it's a salt planet like Crait, then open air meat would kinda make more sense.
*This series as adherent to canon would be Obi-Wan in his little hut doing sudokus.* *Hilariously, that might be better television than what we're getting.*
The memes you would get off that would be awesome. Obi-Wan buying crossword puzzles and shit and it's all in Aurebesh the star wars alphabet and you have subtitles and it's just Obi-Wan trying to figure them out and they're all about the star wars universe and there's easter eggs galore and it builds up the lore aswell. Obi-Wan: Hmm, four letters, "Saying: There's always a bigger ...", hmm, i swear i heard this somewhere before. Master Qui-Gon if I ever need guidance it's now. Qui-Gon's dissembodied voice: Fish, Obi-Wan. There's always a bigger fish. Obi-Wan: Of course! Thank you, master. I knew I could count on you.
This is the only correct answer. Everyone is twisting themselves into knots trying to figure out a Kenobi show that would fit into the established canon when the easiest answer is - don't make a Kenobi show. We don't need to know what every main character was doing all these years. It is perfectly acceptable to say that Obi Wan took on the duty of protecting Luke seriously and despite the weariness of twenty years on a desolate planet he soldiered through and did it anyways. Why do we need a moral background about the failings of the Jedi? At the end of the prequels Obi Wan seems defeated but hasn't given up, and at the beginning of the OT he still seems enthusiastic about the Force and encourages Luke to learn. Did we really need a broken jedi storyline here?
@@aw7400 Thats what I was thinking, as much as I love Ewan McGregor this show is gonna age like milk, I really like the first episode of this show, but after episode two I'm kinda done with it, he saved Leia his adventure should be over now. If this was a Leia show where she's on a little adventure. I'd be a little more enthusiastic, but this is his show, and I already can tell they don't have enough time to do the story they want to do without it feeling rushed. It's a shame too because when him or Leia was on screen I was engaged, but that can only get you so far when you know these characters have much better stories in media that actually take their time.
“When it comes time, the boy must be trained!” “Trained? Like you’ve trained yourself for the last 10 years: not at all?” Obi-Wan pulled a Jake Skywalker and cut himself off from the force… he hasn’t been training or learning or practicing- nothing. And wasn’t Yoda going to teach Obi-Wan how to communicate with Qui-Gon so he could teach him to become one with the force as well? Why- how- how has he not made contact yet?? How will he be protecting Luke if he hasn’t trained? Oh- and the best part: “I am protecting the boy.” …..if a threat does come along and finds Luke… how would Obi-Wan be protecting him…? With the lightsaber(s) he buried out in the middle of the desert several kilometers away?? That’s just silly.
Alderaan is a member of the Empire. Bail Organa is a senator in the Empire. If he told the Empire about it, they are obligated to go look for his daughter. Even though Diva hired bounty hunters to kidnap them, the other inquisitors are very upset and consider it a rogue action. So technically speaking, the Empire should be hunting these bounty hunters down to the ends of the earth
Maybe Bail's actions here is what plants the suspicions in the Empire. Tarkin wasn't just trying to intimidate Leia into giving up the Death Star plans, but had a long, long track record of Alderaan acting seditious. According to Disney Wars: -Bail's daughter is kidnapped and instead of speaking to the local authorities, he contacts a wanted criminal accused of treason. -The Tantive IV was at the Battle of Scarif and stole the Death Star plans in full view of Darth Vader. Alderaan continued to support the Rebel Alliance, abused its diplomatic immunity, and committed espionage. Tarkin was within his rights under Imperial Law.
It’s the Empire and they are at the very top of it, he can surely control any galactic media and holonet sources so it never becomes public. What’s the point of being a dictorial Empire if you can’t control that shit, it’s a massive perk.
"The Wattpad of Watto: Episode 1" *Fade in* After the rise of the Empire, Watto has seen his beloved junkshop fall apart. One hope remains though in Babu Frik, and Watto has been charged with his care. Watto has been instructed to teach Frik the ways of the Junk trading business so, in order to do this, he has buried all his tools in the desert, sold off his droids and now lives in a cave, cutting himself off from the junk. This all changes one day when he is approached by an old acquaintance, Jar Jar Binks. Jar Jar informs him that Frik is not the only one of importance. He must now go on a mission to save a young girl named Amilyn Holdo, who has knowledge of a one in a million shot manoeuvre that could change the tide. Watto sets off on his journey, unaware that Darth Vader is out for revenge...
About the Inquisitors, the main idea is that they receive only the most basic training in using the Dark Side of the Force. They will use this training to strengthen the understanding they already have of the Force from being Jedi. They also use different tactics to throw Jedi off their focus to prevent them using the Force. That was the original point of the spinning blades. To catch Jedi off their guard (Let’s hope they don’t turn them into helicopters again). Because of the lack of significant Force training a single Inquisitor is nowhere near as strong as a Jedi Master or Sith and are not considered the latter. Their main threat comes from their intense lightsaber training and if facing a great enough threat, their numbers. Not that I expect the show to go into any of that. Sidenote- I have no idea why they made the Fifth Brother's voice so over the top growly in this. He didn't sound anything like that in Rebels
You're telling me the Jedi aren't trained to deal with more than one blade at a time. Alternatively, you're telling me that spinning is indeed a good trick.
@@axelvoss9653 Of course spinning's a good trick. We heard from the highest authority. What I mean by the spinning blades is that the surprise of such a device catches Jedi of guard granting the Inquisitors a small opening where they can't use the Force
@@Cyberleader672 I mean... I can't say it'll ever line up, but two force user kinda cancelling each other out does make sense, thus why we'd never see a fighter using the force to directly snap an opponents spine mid-fight. Likewise, Vader throwing stuff at Luke, using the force? That does make more sense, (similarly to good training helping out with lightsaber duels), rather than the alternative, (sequel trilogy level of bullsh1t). I can see an angle which would make the Inquisitors fit in-between the Original Trilogy and the Prequels, yet these bundles of sticks are cRiNgE and the whole show isn't even out yet. "Too bad, so sad"
Are they not going to mention how damaging it is to Kenobi’s character to leave Luke alone on Tatooine? Especially since Inquisitors were JUST THERE?! They could sense him! If Obi-Wan EVER needed to be there, it’s now!
@@nillynush4899 because the West didn't listen to Hitler. Cultural Marxism got me fired from my job, threatened by my co-workers and reported to the police
6:57 I'm glad Rags brought that up. It was so incredibly jarring to see standard Hollywood score copy pasted over movies that previously had a great John Williams score. It's not a big deal compared to the writing issues but it bothered me so much watching it.
I had this with a lot of the accents too. In boba fett, fennec and the mayor secretary guy had thick US accents that sounded so out of place. I couldn’t take anyone seriously when they talked like contemporary muricans and then said some bs Star Wars word. Same with the space chavs on their razor scooters.
I lost all interest in Kenoobi after the first scene. First: when the clones open the door the first one shoots three times and misses on a stationary target. This just further perpetuates the myth of the "Stormtroopers can't aim" which is doubly funny considering that these aren't Stormtroopers. Second: The room they are in appears to be pretty high up or rather far away from the main entrance. As we know the clones marched up by the 1000's meaning they had to have run into some Jedi prior to getting to that room. There's no alarm in the Jedi temple? The Jedi Master/younglings couldn't hear the gunfire? They didn't sense the awful things happening right outside their door? Yoda sensed the Jedi purge all the way on Kashyyyk and Ahsoka sensed it while in Hyperspace (which is Disney's own canon) but not her? Awfully convient...
Yeah it took me 10 seconds. The jedi didnt sense this, the troopers miss, the jedi spins and shit, then beckons the children into the fucking gunfire, then instead of just deflecting, does more spins causing their death
I knew there was something off about that scene. Also, how convenient that there were only a few clones chasing them (with the walkway noticably more abandoned than the floors below), allowing the children to escape once the three to six clones are dispatched.
the "stormtroopers can't aim" thing is a great example of what Disney is horrible at. They literally pander to internet memes for storytelling. They are based on real life shock-troops from World War 1 who would storm trenches, they are meant to be elite compared to just Imperial infantry but for some reason they are absolute dogshit STILL to this day because LOL. so they may as well not even be on screen.
Despite how “sad” Obi-Wan was, he had a mission from Yoda. He should’ve been spending time working hard to communicate and then see Qui-Gon. Qui-Gon should be a major character in this series, and during meditation and visions, Yoda should as well. This series should’ve been about fully establishing the Force Ghost ability and how Qui-Gon accomplished it so Obi-Wan and Yoda can accomplish it as well. Hell, this would’ve been a way to have Ahsoka in the series here and there too. Such wasted potential.
They should make Vader repeat the same lines as if he has alzheimers: "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master." I think it would represent Disney's contribution to this franchise pretty well.
First they eat chicken with gloves now they're cutting meat out in the hot sun with no refrigeration, do the people of Tatooine just not know how to handle meat?
The also have giant aquatic lifeforms stranded in the middle of the desert without them just rotting away. Maybe there is nothing in the desert that would spoil the meat? Who knows...
Your comment got me thinking about this whole thing, I'm going to put it here. How interesting would it be to have an Empire character (who's in charge of some kind of squad) genuinely trying to help the Organas, like this is a period where the Empire isn't quite as corrupted by the Emperor, and it's trying somewhat to have good relations with other systems and hierarchies. This proposed Empire character could be an honest, devoted person that wants peace in the galaxy, and of course they're happy to be put on this detail to help save this senator's child. Then, if the show lasts a few seasons, maybe this character's relationship with the Organas sours, not by their own doing but by our good guys not being able to trust the Empire to any degree. You know, have this big climactic bit where the Empire character has a dispute with Bail, invoking "I put my life at risk to save your daughter, you really don't trust me?" Please, please Star Wars, let the Empire have some characters! You almost had it in that one Mando episode, with the happy Stormtroopers congratulating their friends that didn't blow up!
@@kylefrank638 it f*cking baffles me that fans can come up with better stories than these """"""'""""""""""""professional writers """""""""""""""""""" You think that's enough quotation marks ??? I'm not sure
@@kylefrank638 The Empire was never "deluted" by Palpatine they were just loyal to the cause. EU Thrawn was a good example, a Grand Admiral, who wasn't really evil per say, just had his own gowls in the Empire. Several others were jist joining because they wanted to make a living. Luke even mentions it in the OT but the Imperial Academy was an easy way to learn how to become a good pilot and would have come with a job aswell if you suceeded. This idea that the whole of the Empire was or is always evil is missplaced save for Vader Palpatine and some Officers, they were doing quite a lot of good, especially for Empire loyal systems.
@@kenkaneki3873 Well, the movies never did a good job of showing us the Empire were never deluded by Palpatine; it seemed like they were his puppets right from the start and from then on. Free thinking Empire-loyalist characters are few and far between. That's not a negative per se, but if Star Wars actually does still have the smallest semblance of a goal to make their intellectual property actually intellectual, I wish they'd look into how to make antagonists that aren't drones, or just idiotic mustache-twirlers. Or in Inquisitors' case, lightsaber-twirlers and (terrible-speechifiers, as well). My good-intentions-Imperial-officer pitch up there is a fantasy, misplaced as it may be.
They should have brought back Jason Issacs for the Grand Inquisitor. His face better matches the design from Rebels and he has a much more threatening voice
Completely sick and tired of companies and studios trying to make shows or movies out of every little off-screen, in-between events of old movies. Leaves nothing to the imagination, and most of them are shit anyway.
I’ve learned now over a decade that these movies should’ve just been left alone. These cash cows have literally made me hate these franchises to the point I don’t care to watch the originals
Yes, lets take every throw-away line and make a whole pointless and shitty series out of it! Oh god, your comment made me think of something awful. So in episode 3 of this show there is a throw away line about Kenobi barely remembering his parents, and a baby he assumes was his little brother... So one of the Star Wars geek channels (Star Wars Comics I think) says theres definitely going to be a story about Obi-Wan's long lost brother, and hes excited for it... I wanted to vomit.
@@Paul-bs5wl I dont think its "just" Disney though. Hollywood in general is creatively bankrupt. Almost everything green lit and high budgeted is a spin-off, a sequel, or remake of some kind. And its always a twisted perverse version of the original, and never reaches the quality of story telling that sold the originals in the first place.
I think the only semi ok film to come out that contextualized off screen events was rogue one, which was not even good but at least it wasn’t horseshit
The bar scene would've been 100 times better if PG-13 Pinhead didn't say absolutely anything and his presence alone would be enough for the bartender to plead saying there's no Jedi and then the woman one throws the knife yada yada. And then instead of the stupid cloth support falling have him sway an incoming speeder in to the bar knocking everyone back.
Why didn't Bail Organa get a personal bodyguard for Leia? To the public, she's the daughter of a senator so it wouldn't be far-fetched for her to be watched over by someone 24/7. Hell, they can even develop the bodyguard's character like if the bodyguard had a friendly bond with Leia or was it just a job for the person. And then by the end, have the bodyguard sacrifice his/her life to save Leia. But no, this Disney Star Wars, story/character development be damned.
Something I really dislike about depressed Obi-wan: "This is Master Obi-Wan Kenobi. I regret to report that both our Jedi Order and the Republic, have fallen with a dark shadow of the Empire rising to take their place. This message is a warning and a reminder for any surviving Jedi. Trust in The Force. Do not return to the Temple…that time has past. And our future is uncertain. We will each be challenged. Our trust. Our faith. Our friendships. But we must persevere. And in time, a new hope will emerge. May the Force be with you, always." - Obi-Wan Kenobi after the Order 66
His loss of faith alone has tremendous storytelling opportunities. But nope, for now, let's focus more on Leia rather than Kenobi. I don't think the story has enough focus on Kenobi's internal conflict, but they always dangle it whenever he calls out Qui-Gon like he's Jesus (Father, Father, why have You forsaken me?)
Rako Hardeen was Obi-wan's undercover Bounty Hunter alias in Clone Wars. He could have used that to go off world and Leia technically wouldn't have met him.
I remember seeing a quote from the producers saying this is going to be character driven like Logan and Joker, that made me laugh for a looong time. Little did I know that they actually managed a whole 20 MINUTES OF IT! Way to go Disney!!!
I laughed so hard when the nightmare shows little Jake Loyd pod-racing and flying a Naboo starfighter! Obi-Wan wasn't even around to see any of that! Did George Lucas send him a copy of The Phantom Menace, lol?!
Bail Oragana is a sitting Senator. Logic would demand he has the security resources not only of an entire planet, but the Empire itself to help find his kidnapped daughter. so naturally the intelligent thing to do in this situation is ignore all that and call in the only man who's involvement could expose the fact that he's harboring one of the most important secrets in the galaxy, and by extension endanger the safety of Luke if people trace Obi-wan back to Tatooine, which would basically destroy all hope the galaxy has for the resurrection of the Jedi order and the defeat of the Sith.... So basically from the first scene the plot of this show is built on characters being idiots to keep things moving And it's all downhill from there Disney Star Wars, everyone. Clap you stupid seals....
Also obi wan is just a single man without a star ship and has a big bounty on his head. He would be the very worst person to ask for help. Imagine how much easier it would be if he used a private army with about 200 trained men to look after her, they would gather intel way faster and there would be way less risk.
and the reason Bail gives is because "you're the only one who knows her true origin" which is better for Leia how? In fact, Obi-Wan's knowledge of Leia's true origin almost gets her killed in a later episode. Disney Star Wars, everyone!
Let's not forget the most important part of all of this. It's established in ANH that none of the secrets come out so why even bother trying to tease it could happen? It makes as much sense as teasing Han or Chewie would die in Solo.
Could you imagine how good a show "could" be if the Empire is tasked to find Leia? Suddenly the Writers would have to make the Empire the good guys for this particular setting. Even if they'd fail on all levels of writing, the setting alone would bring some fresh wind in that dusty closet of theirs.
I just realized that the fact Princess Leia knows that she's adopted means that she knew that she was lying when telling Luke that she remembered her mother. 🤦♂️
She could have been talking about her adopted mother, but she would have made that distinction. "I remember my adopted mother...but I never knew my real mother."
@@cadmus204 She does refer to herself as Organa in the sequels. (curse them), so she does view herself as an Organa even after knowing her real identity!
Luke asked Leia did she remember her real mother, not her adopted mother. His exact words were "Leia, do you remember your mother? Your REAL mother?" Leia knew she was adopted by the time of the OT and since Luke knew, too, it was either common knowledge or Leia confided in Luke at some point that she was adopted.
Its funny you should mention him being a bounty hunter, there was an entire arc in the clone wars where he went undercover as a bounty hunter and did quite well.
In clone wars they literally “kill” obi wan to then alter his appearance so he looks like a bounty hunter. I have a time understanding why he didn’t do something similar so wouldn’t look like how he used to. It would also explain the pretty big difference of looks from episode 3 - 4.
yeah I loved that arc but the fact that technology like that exists decades before the OT is a huge issue for all of star wars that happens after that.
@@barsbarsbarz what if obi wan used that tech here? at least they would acknowledge it’s existence and it would make some sense. if they need to nerf it well then put a timer on or something, maybe lasts only a week or 2 at most and it’s very difficult and rare to have done, idk
@@johannesseyfried7933 fair, a way you could implement is is when empire took over they got rid of most of that tech but there are a few spaces like black market areas that would be willing to do that for a fee, idk tho, probably better to get rid of the tech
Obi-Wan’s lifestyle: meditating to communicate with Qui-Gon, looking at Luke, and trying to stay under the radar Disney: ah yes, what a great time for a show!
Reva reminds me of Navy boot camp, when female drill instructors thought that the way to be intimidating is to just yell a lot. Meanwhile the recruits are just rolling their eyes and feeling relieved that the male instructor isn't in the room.
"Ah, I know! Instead of doing something really conspicuous like using my own personal guards or hiring some discreet private contractors to rescue my super secretly not-my-biological-daughter daughter, I need to get really subtle about things instead! Like hiring someone who is probably as wanted and as well-known as Osama Bin Laden, whose entire resume, tool set, and skill sheet involves being about as unsubtle as possible, to rescue my daughter instead! What could possibly go wrong?!" -Bubsy Organa
Also needs to be pointed out Alderan didn’t go into lockdown when their princess was kidnapped? Hope we don’t see less organized planets go into lockdown quicker somehow
@@mryellow6918 it's a peacful planet close to the core worlds. As much as I like seing young Leia, the ehole kidnapping plot doesnt make sense to me. Then again show needs to happen. Hot take here i like the first two episodes, i should find time to finish the show, but it already feels dragged out. It feels like they turned a movie into conviently six weeks worth of content.
@@barsbarsbarz in fairness to Lucas i honestly believe it wasn't about money when he made the first movies. Part of the reason why the Prequels failed was because he was trying to do something outside the box. Yes, he monetized the hell out of SW after it was a success, but i think Star Wars was, at one point, a legit passion project of his.
@@petriew2018 I believe George said in an Interview that he didn't want to make his Films too similar to each other. And....no matter if you like the Prequels or not, I think we can all agree that they were completely different from the first Trilogy.
The opening with the Prequel footage cut up to dramatic music just makes me think of those videos on youtube that essentially do just that. Usually with one or two words as the title like, Star Wars: The Fall, then just splice together every scene of Anakin turning into Evilman to intense music. There's a ton for MCU and Star Wars stuff, I have to imagine they saw those and thought they'd try their own as a desperate attempt to get people hyped on the franchise that they'll once again shit over.
Remember when Tatooine was just a dusty old rock that Luke desperately wanted to get away from? I am tired of spending so much time there in all these shows. It's such a boring location when you got a galaxy with UNLIMITED potential and creativity at your disposal!
@@catchupichu “man we have a Disney level budget and a story that takes place in an entire galaxy where people can travel between it in the blink of an eye, with thousands of different cultures and species and planets, where should we put our stories?” “tatooine” “But we’ve already been there.. and it’s been fleshed out enough and there’s not much else we can do with it.. what if we have them go to like a rogue planet covered in ice and have that story take place in the ocean there? or we have them go onto a gas giant where there are colonies floating high in the atmosphere since there’s no solid ground and only a sea of gas when you get low enough?” “no tatooine” “Ok.. maybe we’re gonna start the show on tatooine, then take them off after an episode or 2?” “no” “The entire season.. on tatooine?” “yes” “Ok.. can we at least have a new location on tatooine? maybe explore some of those caves of gorges we’ve seen?” “no” “.. Ok.. so mos eisley area.. again.. Can we at least have many different alien species there?” “no” “…”
@@catchupichu yeah that’s the crazy part! The streets in the Kenobi and Boba shows look so… bland. In the originals you had so much going on. So many different kinds of people, and even law enforcement! Then in the prequels we got to see pod racing and even more aliens. Disney Star Wars just feels so bland.
@@WrathofArchon it hurts how accurate this is. And nothing better explains how tone deaf and uncreative they are better than the awful power rangers in Boba. The supposed “poor oppressed workers” have cybernetics, fancier clothes than anyone else and have shiny and seemingly costume made speeder bikes… World building is dead.
Who would've known back then that Tatooine was the most important planet in the galaxy, where the most important people in the galaxy either come from or live on for a period of time...for some reason...
(subtitled) "I am Tchupa, and THIS is my junk crawler." (Knockoff Guns N Roses intensifies) Skiffkeeper walks in with a severed human arm. Tchupa: (off to the side) "We get these a lot. But only _some_ are worth taking a look at."
I know I'm really late to this bloodbath, but there's one line that the lads skipped over, that I really want to vent about. Obi-Wan Kenboi: "My responsibility is to the boy." Bailout Organa: "What about your responsibility to his sister?" I guess Bail Organa really is a politician... because he's a big pile of bipedal backpedaling bantha poodoo! As much as Disney would not like us to remember the Prequels, I do remember them... particularly the part where, immediately after Yoda suggested separating the twins, Bail quite eagerly volunteered to take Leia into his custody. I also distinctly recall Obi-Wan then agreeing to take Luke to Tatooine, and that was the end of that conversation. Nothing was said about Obi-Wan being on call or having any sort of obligation to help Leia (and I don't recall the Revenge of the Sith novelization having any such arrangement either). So why are the Organas acting like Obi-Wan has some sort of duty to help them? Ugh...
Obi-Wan and Leia should NEVER have met. They have NOT met by the time of SW:ANH. Luke, at the very least, HAS heard of Obi-Wan ("Ben"), maybe even met (or seen) him as far as SW:ANH is concerned (though even that's a stretch). They're going to try and retcon this Leia/Obi-Wan thing by pointing out that Obi-Wan just introduces himself as "Ben" to Leia, but even THAT doesn't work, because Leia still knows that Obi-Wan and Ben are the same person (again, according to SW:ANH), though she hasn't met him. THE main plot, and it completely goes against canon. Ugh, this is just terrible.
@@arisrayden Oh, I didn't miss that, it's actually funny. According to this show they know each other well yet in ANH she just sprints into the Falcon with hardly a care about her old buddy getting cut down, lol.
@@elaguajdo yes its still weird even though i barely remember adults form when i was 10 years old with whom i never interacted again ( i was also never kidnapped and saved by such an adult). my guess is that in the end the forget-me drug will be used on leia or they'll use something else to explain away why she didn't really rmember all of this.
After having played (edit)Fallen Order I can tell you one thing: Shelf the Inquisitors. They are a joke who can be beaten by a Padawan with incomplete training. They are a lot of things but intimidating is not among them.
I watched this episode with my girlfriend. She tough the pursuit was fake and that it was organized by the parents to teach Leia a lesson so that she would stop running away. She was confused when I said it was a real kidnapping.
I'm always amazed by EFAP's attempt to be optimistic about the shows and such, like I'm at a point where I don't believe Disney is capable of anything good in SW. I write it off before Disney even has an idea for it.
The Leia kidnapping is a better setup for a Boba Fett show than what The Book of Boba Fett had. Leia has been kidnapped, and her parents figure out that she's been kidnapped by someone working for the empire, so they can't go through official channels to get her back. Instead, they hire Boba Fett to bring her back by any means neccessary. He has the skills to pull this off, he'll seemingly work for anyone who can pay him, and Leia's parents can afford to pay whatever he wants to get the job done. This gives us the opportunity to have Boba helping the good guys without actually being a good guy. It also creates some situational irony that he's rescuing her from the empire now, and will go on to help the empire capture her later.
This will be the first ever Star Wars content I will not consume on my own outside of EFAP. Disney killed a major part of my life and I am unhappy, but the wound is so deep I feel the pains watching it even through EFAP. The fact that Vader is even in the show for more than just yelling at the inquistors (ie fighting Obi Wan) is mind blowingly stupid and ruins so much. "I sense a presence I haven't felt since..........." & "When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master" is now "I gave up searching for you even though we just fought a few times during that one weekend adventure 8 years ago while you were searching for Organa's daughter. Why were you doing that by the way?"
Surely since they retconned that line in a new hope, they’re going to use that as an excuse to make a confrontation that is meaningful and cool and filled with character and good dialogue and not at all bad.. right? r i g h t? surely they would save that for the last episode and not have them “fight” each other multiple times during the season, and they would build up to that confrontation to make it more meaningful.. right?
@@Quaaludio I agree except there’s like 2 good ones- well maybe not good but ones I like to use, those being outbreak prime (totally not biased) and that one from the leviathan that I forgot the name of lol
Seeing those younglings escape was the nail in the coffin for this show. You can't just make a star wars show where the kids weren't viciously murdered.
i really love what fringy said at the beginning about how hes gonna look for the well made puppets or aliens. just anything that is to be praised and doesnt need shit on just cause the writing is terrible. so many people work on these shows and there is always something good that can be taken away from it.... now time to hear the boys rip apart this mess of a show
I hope that Reva isn't shown to have mind reading powers in the next episode... If they did that, it would be really convenient that she didn't use that on Owen Lars when she sensed him hiding something... I really hope they don't do that!
I hope the empire isn't shown to have life scanners. If they did that, it would be really convenient when our heroes show up to their base they don't scan the ship and realize it's a threat. Apart from the other more notable plot device of them forgetting droids exist. That would be terrible, because I really love selectively calling out convenience!
@@barsbarsbarz ah yes the good old argument of “there was an inconsistency in the original trilogy so it’s fine that this makes no sense”. If your going to bother, then actually defend the show and stop trying to drag everything else down.
@@kingrippzard2027 you're the one dragging people down. as a star wars fan you should know better than anyone things can be enjoyed without making sense, therefore there's no point of making your comment
In the Clone Wars cartoon Obi-Wan went through surgery to reconstruct his face to that of a bounty hunter's so that he could properly infiltrate an organization. They even faked his death and held a funeral for him, and this was so convincing that even Anakin believed his master was dead. This was the lengths to which he would go to remain undercover on secret missions. Now? Well, now he just walks through Mos Eisley dressed 100% like a jedi and flashing his lightsaber hilt. Bruh.
Just thought about it, beyond the correct point that Leia didnt seem to know Kenobi personally in A New Hope, Luke DOES know about Ben. We could easily have a passing interaction between child Luke and Ben. Have him rescue Child Luke from bullies using his creativity or mild Force powers (like his "I spook Tuskens" skill) on his way to work, or something like that.
Honestly, if not for EFAP I'd never watch anything of disney star wars. Efap reacts is the only way to watch this stuff. It's edited down, funnier, and FAR more entertaining. Also, Hi Rags!
Reva knows that Anakin has a kid and uses her to draw out Obi-Wan… HOW How would she know that?? It was NEVER public knowledge that he married or had kids. For all anyone knew, he died in order 66. And the senator from Naboo died along with the children she was pregnant with fathered by… unknown. Whatever- Added on top of that: HOW does she know Anakin is Vader?? Reva is just THAT amazing- she conveniently just knows everything. Woo stunning and brave character writing.
Get used to the child chase scenes. Leia never once insinuated that she knew she was adopted until she realized that she's Luke's sister. A total of _four_ living beings know of her origin (Bail, Bail's wife, Kenobi, & Yoda). I kind of want to rip away every scene that isn't Kenobi 'cause that would be far better than what we got, but it would be so much work and it wouldn't fix future episodes. Last thing for now, why is Luke not blond? Generally people's hair don't usually get fairer as time passes. Sure, the suns would help, but he should really take on Anakin's looks. It bothers me.
Just remember that in Episode 1 the Inquisitors claim that both A) Jedi are easy to discover because they will reveal themselves to help others, and also B) The Jedi are selfish assholes who will not give themselves up to save others. Both claims are given in a monologue and the show does not seem to care that they are complete contradictions.
You guys were so right when you were talking about obi-wan stopping someone from finding luke or something along those lines, it would have made much more sense and it can clearly work, too, because if you've ever watched person of interest, the first thing they try to do is avert the situation without alerting the one in danger. Great video guys have a good one.
I’m assuming someone beat me to this, but in one of the animated series, obi-wan goes undercover as a bounty hunter to uncover a kidnapping plot of the chancellor. Kenobi has to earn there trust, he does some grey things.
Y’all are correct Bail has access to a large force that would make up the majority of the rebel alliance. At this time he would also have secret agents and rebel commandos. The main agent I’m thinking of goes by the name Fulcrum at this time… you know, a certain gray Jedi… but no, no special forces, no rebel agents, call the one old guy protecting the “false prophet”.
Something I realised upon rewatching this is that Leia doesn't act like a normal child when her guard was shot dead in front of her. She never screams nor freeze every time someone dies in front of her. Not the guard, not the bounty hunter that Kenobi shot, not the Stormtroopers (including the one cut in half literally). It doesn't mesh with a sheltered child backstory.
"The limits of the Force are not fully understood. The Force appears to blur the line between life and death. The Force gives those who possess it extraordinary powers over those who do not. Having an organization of rogue Force users, utterly disloyal to the Empire is extremely dangerous. We are seeking to rid the word of this danger, protect the ordinary people, as the citizens of the Empire deserve such safety. *The Emperor protects.* Now, tell us what you know about the Jedi and help us preserve lives". 5 minutes, no editing. A bit better than "their compassion leaves them frail", no?
All Officer Moses woulda had to do is yell " *insert relevant amount of space money here* to who ever informs on *insert name of jedi here* " and those peasants would become the empires eyes and ears willingly, its Tattooeen, hive of scum and villiany remember?
I remember in season 5 of samurai jack, they made a BIG DEAL about jack not having his sword and watching him fight without it was fascinating. When he got it back, it was an INTENSE moment filled with "fuck yes!!!!" vibes. I hope it's SOMETHING like that here with oni and his saber
It's funny that in "Book of Boba" Boba stayed on Tattooine the entire time when there was no reason for him to do so. But in "Kenobi" Obi-wan leaves at the end of the first episode when there was every reason for him to stay on Tattooine.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
he was recovering from his sarlacc-tenancy and then trying to find a way to hold up honour and revenge his fallen sand-family an...... oh god i wish he left Tatooine 😭😭
@@canaldecasta You may not have noticed, but your brain sure did.
Lol nah - him "staying on Tatooine for 50 years" isn't necessarily how it should've been, but along with "he lost his force mojo" the way they did it was a bit quite jarring; happened too fast or idk
Don't hurt me
I love how when Obi Wan is sleeping and having the flashbacks, he has flashbacks to scenes he wasn't even present in lmao
Hahahahaha
he may seen the video though O.O
Is there any lore that possibly explains it because of "muh force visions" or something? But yeah, still funny
@@onodatboi9041 Bro every plothole they might ever create is gonna be explained by the force, these people don't care about good writing
Jaws the Revenge logic
"Kenobi is a good character he must be fleshed out"
"Like you fleshed out Luke?"
"Yes"
More like flushed out the way they're handling the characters.
What was wrong with fleshing him out to be trollbi-wan?
Kenobi has been DECONSTRUCTED.. We SUBVERTED YOUR POSITIVE EXPECTATIONS real good eh?
@@fatrick9001 No, no, no, not your _positive_ expectations, you see. Just.... Your expectations. Facts don't exist, math is evil, I fuckin' hate Trump, and it's only your opinion Obi-Wan should've been that way. It's not about what you want, it's about what *_we_* want! 😈😈😈
Tatooine was the shitty backwater world Luke couldn't wait to escape, yet it's now the cornerstone of the entire universe.
"If there's a bright centre of the universe you're on the planet that is farthest from"
even with a Disney level budget they can’t seem to think of good new planets and rely on old ones.. also what’s with heir obsession over deserts? why does every place have to be a flat barren wasteland? if you really want do do a desert, at least make it interesting? I could believe that something like the glass desert in slime rancher would exist in Star Wars and would probably be doable since Disney money, but I guess not
@@MediumRareOpinions These D- shows seem to be making that line a lie
I mean, to be fair to this show, they leave Tatooine in the first episode and it seems like the rest of the series will take place on other planets in the galaxy. they HAVE to start on Tatooine, though, because that's where Obi-Wan is.
it's a shit show, and easy to shit on, just make sure you aim your shit properly
@@WrathofArchon Tatooine wasn't even this barren of a wasteland in the originals
The scene where R2 gets captured by the Jawa for ecample shows us a different environment other than the flat boring desert
The reason that woman stopped screaming after her hand got cut off, is because she put on her new robot hand she got from the Cyberpunk 2077 mod shop guy.
Good ol' Vik! He's always got your back!
But was it a jackhammer hand,like the biker's foot from boba fett? Doe SHE now automatically get a garishly coloured space Vespa and become founder of their gang????
The Cyber Punks
She can't afford a robo-hand so she takes the robo-stomach instead... for some reason.
@@benjamingrant5970 yes she now uses her jack hammer hand to crush spice into snorting lines 🔨 🪨
I like how the inquisitor orchestrated the kidnapping of Alderan royalty, the daughter of an esteemed and influential senator, and she isn't immediately executed or imprisoned by any of the other inquisitors for this.
For no reason either. At least that the Inquisitors know of. To not even question her as to why she would cause such needless (in their minds) strife is mind boggling
Imagine going to the White House and capturing the presidents child in the garden. That basically what just happened in the episode.
They bring it up in the next episode, the Grand Inquisitor is pissed at what Reva did. The problem in the next episode is they dont subdue her or anything they just let her walk away.
@@miguelzurita3216 Knowing that Alderaan was pretty neutral in it's loyalty to the Empire, I like to think this event turned Bail and the entire planet to full blown assist with the rising Rebellion. That's how much of a cockup job, Reva did.
They did yell at her though
I’m really confused by Obi-Wan simultaneously having given up hope on the Jedi being able to return (which I can understand) and yet simultaneously insisting to Owen that Luke must be trained. Which is it?
You and me both. My guess is that they needed good trailer lines.
My best guess is that he's lying to the younger Jedi to try to keep him from doing something stupid. Though saying "I have a plan, but for now we need to stay hidden" would probably be a lot more persuasive.
Wow. Really?
Luke needs to be trained so he doesn't accidentally use the Force, you fucking idiot.
@@scienceviking4490 that actually sounds like Obi-wan, so we can't have that
he wants to train luke cause he senses doing so is essentail to stopping the empire, but doesn't believe that the jedi order can be ressurrected even if they overthrow the empire.
Contrivance counter:
1. Despite the hundreds of Clone troopers attacking the temple, the Jedi have no alarm or warning.
2. The Clone troopers are made incompetent so the younglings can escape.
3. The Grand inquisitor's exposition dump. Out of an entire planet they know which city and even which room to search.
4. The Jedi using the force with no subtlety.
5. His escape.
6. The inquisitors terrorize citizens in Hutt space without consequence.
7. Reva is disobedient without consequence.
8. The inquisitors question a random civilian who happens to be Owen Lars.
9. This is just after his conversation with Kenobi.
10. The Jedi just finds Kenobi despite Kenobi being in hiding.
11. Leia, the young princess, goes running in the woods with zero supervision.
12. She hasn't been taught stranger danger.
13. The entirety of the chase sequence.
14. Bail Organa, the royal senator, can't find anyone to trust to rescue his daughter aside from the in hiding Kenobi. He knows why Kenobi is in hiding but asks him to come out anyways. And as a Jedi, Kenobi would garner much more attention than literally anyone else.
15. He wants to keep his daughter's kidnaping a secret despite the dead guard and servants who work with Leia, despite the additional help he could receive to rescue his daughter, and despite how unnatural he's acted should any of this be leaked.
16. Reva knew exactly how Bail would react. She is aware of his sympathy for the Jedi yet no action has been taken against him as an Imperial Senator. Despite the hundreds of people both Bail and Obi-Wan came into contact with during the Clone Wars, she knows they have a special relationship that will successfully draw Obi-Wan out of hiding.
probably missed a few tbh
Wait, that's the entire show lol.
Regarding clones: from the Traviss EU Clone Commando novels, the Battle of Coruscant was a trap for Grievous prepared by gigantic accounting fraud to keep the buildup secret; this coincided with the Kamino contract winding down, and Sparti Cylinders set up on the planet itself, with radically shortened growth cycles, which increase abnormalities, aggression, efficiency, ect. This was probably how the contingency order brain chips seen in the Clone Wars animated series was implemented at scale -- longer lived Kamino clones notice they seem off, too, but the contingency orders are fine print they don't fuss about (only the Commandos really have the wherewithal and relatively unadulterated gene set to question and act on it freely.) OT era clones are cheap and disposable, and reliant on flash training simulations; basically babies with blasters, and commensurate spatiovisual noobs, despite being fully formed, which even experience can't redress fully.
You may have missed the point of the prequels. The point was that the Jedi were high on their own hubris. They had no warning system because they didn’t think they needed one. They were a completely defunct system. So much of their system was terribly designed, which was intentional, the Jedi were supposed to fail in the prequels, which they did.
It was a commentary on Europe I believe. This beautiful utopia, gets into a devastating war and wipes itself out (ww2). The OT was a commentary on the US, the empire is the US and the rebels were the Vietnamese. How these plucky Vietnamese rebels could destroy the full might of the US military.
Look into the politics, George admitted that he based many of the characters on political figures, like Bill Clinton etc
@@johntonssen7231 But this was years into the Clone Wars and shortly after the battle of Coruscant. I'd have to rewatch it, but I'm pretty sure they had a rudimentary lockdown system in the Clone Wars when Cad Bane pulls off the Holocron Heist. I agree with you on the political aspects, that the Jedi were complacent in their ways and doomed to fail by the ultimate plan of the Sith. But even so, I think meditating in the temple whilst it is currently under attack and being completely unaware is too much of a stretch. At the very least, I'd expect them to hear gunfire and screams and sense a disturbance in the force. The younglings in ROTS at least tried to hide from the Clone Troopers.
The chase scene is like Norman Jayden failing all the quicktime events.
now that is a good reference
It's actually pronounced Nah-min Ja-y-den, F Bee Eye.
Memories.
Leia, the being of pure kindness and respect, so much so she thanks droids, 9 years from now calls Chewie a "walking carpet". I guess her cousin was right.
To play devil's advocate, when she called him walking carpet it was in the middle of a stressful situation where she was on the run and bickering with Han not taking her seriously. When they manage to get rid of the pursuing TIE fighters assuring they escaped the Death Star for good, she happily embraces Chewie.
@@DeepEye1994 Nothing can excuse racial slurs. 'Walking carpet' is to Wookiees as the n-word (hard r, with whip crack) is to black people or 'Freedo' to Italians.
@@DeepEye1994 is she nice to 3po?
@@robertlewis6915 PFFFFT sorry but I need evidence it was something as bad an actual slur against Wookies (if it's outside the films, I don't care. If a game or some obscure comic decided to take Leia's comedic insult and turn it into something else, that's stupid), given that there's plenty hairy alien species in SW, hell you could call "walking carpet" a bear or a big dog.
Racism and racial slurs are a social phenomenon. ONE single person does not constitute a race, and one person does not constitute a society.
I'm pretty sure that if Chewie was a cyborg with a breather mask like Vader and Leia said "Get this metal face out of my way!" it'd be the same thing, just a stress-induced malicious nickname.
This idea that it's racism is absolutely new to me and I'll be honest, it's pretty dumb.
And if you say "Well, she didn't give him the medal, so she totally hates Wookies deep down!" congrats, I'm taking your points even less seriously.
@@sockpocketpre-alpha8258 Even if she wasn't, I wouldn't really care if she liked droids as a younger girl? I can kinda see her do that? It's not THAT much of a stretch?
Mind you, I hate Disney Star Wars very much, but one thing is making Han super pathetic smuggler and getting him killed by his own son and regressing Luke into a grumpy idiot who was tempted to kill his nephew instead of talking to his mother, the other is a small girl liking droids because they're essentially big living toys to her, but then growing up, experiencing the horrors of war and not having that innocent outlook anymore, if I'm not mistaken it's something very common in real life, that people grow up and maybe don't feel the same way about liking something.
I'm all for pointing out character contradictions, but only if they're ACTUALLY very questionable and contrived to allow the stupid story to happen (again Luke in TLJ), in comparison to Disney's other actual fuck-ups, Leia liking droids as a smaller girl is not problematic.
If it was part of a good show/movie, I'm pretty sure nobody would care.
"Know when to fold them" as they say.
Don't worry, this Kenobi show still sucks for other reasons, I just find unnecessary making a big deal out of minor things that in a better piece of media wouldn't bother anyone.
I guess I'm just a perfectionist, I want to hear good points as to why something is fundamentally broken, but I'm bothered by non-issues being blown out of proportion because it distracts from the bigger issues.
Metal's incredulous "did they CGI soup?!?" had me rolling. Also, Fringy's comment on the Previously On the Prequels segment: "Do they think that nobody knows this?"
So let me get this straight, Reva had a suspicion that Bail Organa had some connection with Obi Wan because they were on the same side of a GALACTIC war. So she devises a plan to kidnap Leia because she assumed that Bail because she ASSUMED it would draw specifically Kenobi out. Reva came up with this plan without considering watching where Bail Organa went after the kidnapping...
This alongside her coincidentally assuming Owen knows something seriously makes me think that Reva has the saga's script in her pocket.
black womxn magic...stop being reycis
It doesn’t make sense that reva would think kenobi would be drawn out by leia just because he knew bail. He was a Jedi Master so of course he knew some senators but he wouldn’t risk everything for their random kid. The only reason it makes sense is if reva knows that leia is anakins daughter, there’s no way she can know that but the audience does so the plot hole goes over most people’s heads.
if I capture his daughter he will ask Obi wan for help but then doesn't follow Organa to tatowinee where he meets Obi in person
why the hell would Luke be hiding on his father's planet and have the same last name.
The thing is, if Bail's connection to obi wan was known to so strong that one could reasonably believe that he both 1) has a means of communicating with him and 2) would be willing to come out of hiding in order to help him get his daughter back, Vader(or the emperor) would have already done it
Relying on the fact that the audience knows something the characters shouldn't is plagueing todays screenwriters
@@socialjihad5724 and yet despite the strong evidence now that they have this strong connection I doubt anyone will follow up with this after this incident.
The pre-Disney novel Kenobi just had him save one town of moisture farmers on Tatooine from Sand People, Seven Samurai style. No galaxy-spanning adventures, no Sith, no prodigy Leia.
That idea of replacing Luke in a prequel actually happened in the recent Marvel 40K comic. Marneus Calgar, future Chapter Master of the Ultramarines, Marvel killed off as a boy and secretly replaced him with some guy named Bob.
That would’ve been incredibly cool. Like how the Mandalorian leaned into cowboy stuff early on, they could’ve leaned into samurai stuff with the lone Jedi, Kenobi. Too bad they picked a different plot.
Wait so this Bob is the reason that the Smurf marines are so lucky? Also how on earth did this man (if continuity is continued) then deadlift a pylon without the geneseed?
Well even the worst Legends material was better than Disney wars.
@@reverendrico5631 agreed, even Palpatine becoming a god is better
Bob Fett or Moviebob?
I can definitely see Disney taking Jay’s idea of Luke dying and Obi-Wan replacing him with an identical looking kid. Like how a parent replaces a dead goldfish.
That would retroactively destroy the old movies like nothing else.
That literally happened in a Warhammer 40K comic with an established character when they went mainstream.
But that explains why TLJ Luke is so mad! He was the real one all along!!!!
@@zappodude7591 Well no, the only thing this would change is that Luke the baby in the final scene of Episode III isn't the same guy as Luke in the OT. It really wouldn't change anything continuity wise, it'd just be weird and pointless. TLJ wouldn't be affected because Luke would be replaced before the first time we actually meet him.
@@Paul-bs5wl No, you don;t understand!!! It's and epic Twist!!!!!!!
Reva's logic: "Obi-Wan and Bail shared two scenes of screen time in the Prequels, obviously they're such damn good friends that I'm going to kidnap an imperial senator's daught based entirely on the idea that Bail will ONLY trust and contact Obi-Wan to rescue her."
Seriously though, how does she know that there's a link between Bail Organa and Obi-Wan Kenobi? Wouldn't that raise so many questions in the eyes of the Galactic Empire? Did they know that he facilitated Kenobi's and Yoda's disappearance? And if so, wouldn't Vader, himself, seek out Organa and "question" him about Obi-Wan's whereabouts? Am I missing something, here? I'm so confused by this plot point...
Thus far this show has relied so much on convenience, like why would they even go to tatooine in the first place. Isn’t the whole point of this planet to be so far away from everything that it is the perfect place to hide and is the reason why obi wan didn’t get captured. Also how come they show up the exact location where the Jedi is and somehow also ask Owen about Jedi. It’s so stupid.
@@mourad505 She mentions in episode 2 that she found out that Bail and Kenobi fought together in the Clone Wars from the Imperial Archives. It is the most tentetive and weak link you could base your plan around.
@@nobody2996 Tarkin fought in the Clone Wars together with many Jedis. Looks to me he could be hiding Kenobi too.
@@nobody2996 Wait, that's even worse... I always thought Kenobi and Organa didn't really know each other that well until Bail hid him and Yoda during the Jedi Purge. And I never watched the Clone Wars series so there might be context that I'm missing, but let me see if I'm understanding this correctly...
Bail Organa was close friends and allies with Obi-Wan, Anakin Skywalker's former master, during the Clone Wars; close enough that it was apparently put into record that they fought as allies during the war. Let's just gloss over that this guy was a senator during the war. He "fought" in the Clone Wars??? How??? In what capacity??? Was he a soldier, a general??? Were they running low on clones and started conscripting VIP's within the government to "fight"??? Also, did he give up his senate seat and monarchy to fight? Or do they mean that Alderran had a standing military that he pledged to the Republic? That's a weird line, a senator "fought" in the war...
Let's also gloss over the fact that knowing Obi-Wan so well during the war must've put Bail into regular close contact with Kenobi's partner during the war, Anakin Skywalker. Organa also seemed to be a close colleague of Anakin Skywalker's wife, Padme Amidala. This guy was close with, quite literally, THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN DARTH VADER'S LIFE! Did Vader kind of forget (trademark D&D...) about his existence?! Or did he never know about him to begin with?! Because that's the only way I can imagine Darth Vader never trying to threaten or torture him for any bit of information about a mutual acquaintance!
So Darth Vader doesn't give a fuck about Bail Organa, but this fucking rando inquisitor sleuthed around to discover this bit of trivia and decided "Maybe this guy will lead us to Obi-Wan Kenobi"??? Was she also planning to kidnap Dexter fuckin' Jetser too, or anybody else with the slightest bit of association with Kenobi?! These plot holes and contrivances are insane?!
The problem with the 3rd sister knowing Obi-Wan being connected to the Organas basically negates the OT from ever happening.
She already connected the dots, there is nothing that stops her and the Empire to go do Alderaan and close shop there, preventing the OT from ever happening.
Yeah if they know bail is connected to the Jedi, wouldn’t that be enough to imprison him or just kill if his family and insert a puppet leader?
Especially because the Empire so so anti-Jedi, they wouldn’t even need to cite probable cause or anything, they could just swoop in there and bomb the planet to shit with Star Destroyers.
Exactly. Unless everyone undergoes a big, dumb, convenient mind-wipe so that they can all conveniently forget all of this, I have so many questions about what occurs between this show and A New Hope...
Not to mention, shouldn't it be nearly impossible to kidnap a princess? That by itself should make them not even consider the plan. But thanks to convenience they pulled it off with 3 incompetent bounty hunters who struggled to catch a 10yo. If the guards were watching her like they would have been, this plan can never happen.
She will be dead at the end of the show.
Something that annoys me, is that this Inquisitor was able to figure out how to draw out ObiWan so quickly, but did Darth Vader never think to do this?
He wants him dead more than anyone.
good point 👍
Or after this whole incident, how Vader never realised threatening Bail or his family would draw out Obi-Wan again.
@@DillsyYourDaddy67 Isn't Senator Bail a traitor to the Empire? It's proven he's working with Kenobi aka a wanted terrorist. Alderaan should be under siege and Bail rotting in the Emperor's dungeon
@@DillsyYourDaddy67 they’ll retcon that he expected Kenobi to show up to rescue Leia
Because women are smarter in Disney Star Wars.
imagine the conflict of this wasnt big space adventure, but literally just obiwan and owen fighting over lukes future. how fucking interesting would that be?
The Owen v Obi-Wan scene was genuinely the only scene where I was like "This is fucking awesome, more of that please".
Spoiler alert: We dont get more of that :(
@@simos6jipros154
Disney knows what the good stuff is for the marketing. That scene got trailer prominence. But they won't actually make the whole product as good as those select few scenes.
@@simos6jipros154 less dialogue and explanation, more action and pew-pew.
a slower paced show would be good, hell even better, what if it was just a timeline of adventures that obi-wan had during his time on tatooine? maybe getting involved in a plot with the hutts somehow and watching over Luke, would be better than this surely
@@simos6jipros154 And Bail Organa being a good dad was really nice.
3:02 funny you say that. The EU includes a book called Kenobi, where he is just going around helping people is his town while trying not be found out as a Jedi. The Tuskan Raiders were the bad guys though, so disney wouldn't like it lol
I’m so glad I’m not the only person who had an issue with an open air butcher shop in a desert… like even assuming that the planet has no spoilage from bugs or bacteria like doesn’t the meat get all dusty?
The sand is a downside but on the upside the entire place is perfect for making Biltong, it's so dry!
I could imagine the meat going very bad very fast in that amount of heat would also imagine a shit ton of flies in the butcher shop.
No joke, in Egypt, 20 years ago, was very normal something like that. My father traveled there, always told me he only ate in restaurants because the normal shops has that tendency of exposing the piece in public for everyone to see, flies everywhere. Obviously, he thought it was not healthy search for food there, enen if it was cheaper
No you don't understand, the sand is a natural seasoning for the beef. Can't beat Sand Jerky.
Do we know Tatooine is actually covered in sand? Did anyone taste it lol? Maybe it's a salt planet like Crait, then open air meat would kinda make more sense.
*This series as adherent to canon would be Obi-Wan in his little hut doing sudokus.*
*Hilariously, that might be better television than what we're getting.*
The memes you would get off that would be awesome. Obi-Wan buying crossword puzzles and shit and it's all in Aurebesh the star wars alphabet and you have subtitles and it's just Obi-Wan trying to figure them out and they're all about the star wars universe and there's easter eggs galore and it builds up the lore aswell.
Obi-Wan: Hmm, four letters, "Saying: There's always a bigger ...", hmm, i swear i heard this somewhere before. Master Qui-Gon if I ever need guidance it's now.
Qui-Gon's dissembodied voice: Fish, Obi-Wan. There's always a bigger fish.
Obi-Wan: Of course! Thank you, master. I knew I could count on you.
This is the only correct answer. Everyone is twisting themselves into knots trying to figure out a Kenobi show that would fit into the established canon when the easiest answer is - don't make a Kenobi show. We don't need to know what every main character was doing all these years. It is perfectly acceptable to say that Obi Wan took on the duty of protecting Luke seriously and despite the weariness of twenty years on a desolate planet he soldiered through and did it anyways.
Why do we need a moral background about the failings of the Jedi? At the end of the prequels Obi Wan seems defeated but hasn't given up, and at the beginning of the OT he still seems enthusiastic about the Force and encourages Luke to learn. Did we really need a broken jedi storyline here?
Honestly, I would watch that. 😄
The Episodes would need to be shorter, of course.
@@aw7400 Thats what I was thinking, as much as I love Ewan McGregor this show is gonna age like milk, I really like the first episode of this show, but after episode two I'm kinda done with it, he saved Leia his adventure should be over now.
If this was a Leia show where she's on a little adventure. I'd be a little more enthusiastic, but this is his show, and I already can tell they don't have enough time to do the story they want to do without it feeling rushed.
It's a shame too because when him or Leia was on screen I was engaged, but that can only get you so far when you know these characters have much better stories in media that actually take their time.
“When it comes time, the boy must be trained!”
“Trained? Like you’ve trained yourself for the last 10 years: not at all?”
Obi-Wan pulled a Jake Skywalker and cut himself off from the force… he hasn’t been training or learning or practicing- nothing. And wasn’t Yoda going to teach Obi-Wan how to communicate with Qui-Gon so he could teach him to become one with the force as well? Why- how- how has he not made contact yet??
How will he be protecting Luke if he hasn’t trained?
Oh- and the best part:
“I am protecting the boy.”
…..if a threat does come along and finds Luke… how would Obi-Wan be protecting him…? With the lightsaber(s) he buried out in the middle of the desert several kilometers away??
That’s just silly.
Finally! These minis are more fun than the shows they are about.
And then some.
Finally? Almost always, imo!
From my point of view this opinion is based
@@bowserjjumetroid3645 I think the "finally" was meaning how it's finally released!
@@Unknown-hb3id yep
Alderaan is a member of the Empire. Bail Organa is a senator in the Empire. If he told the Empire about it, they are obligated to go look for his daughter. Even though Diva hired bounty hunters to kidnap them, the other inquisitors are very upset and consider it a rogue action. So technically speaking, the Empire should be hunting these bounty hunters down to the ends of the earth
*"to the end of the galaxy"
@@albertocruzado2899 *to the end of tattooine*
But as Bail said
"This can't become public" with absolutely zero explanation as to why it can't become public
Maybe Bail's actions here is what plants the suspicions in the Empire. Tarkin wasn't just trying to intimidate Leia into giving up the Death Star plans, but had a long, long track record of Alderaan acting seditious. According to Disney Wars:
-Bail's daughter is kidnapped and instead of speaking to the local authorities, he contacts a wanted criminal accused of treason.
-The Tantive IV was at the Battle of Scarif and stole the Death Star plans in full view of Darth Vader.
Alderaan continued to support the Rebel Alliance, abused its diplomatic immunity, and committed espionage. Tarkin was within his rights under Imperial Law.
It’s the Empire and they are at the very top of it, he can surely control any galactic media and holonet sources so it never becomes public. What’s the point of being a dictorial Empire if you can’t control that shit, it’s a massive perk.
"The Wattpad of Watto: Episode 1"
*Fade in*
After the rise of the Empire, Watto has seen his beloved junkshop fall apart. One hope remains though in Babu Frik, and Watto has been charged with his care. Watto has been instructed to teach Frik the ways of the Junk trading business so, in order to do this, he has buried all his tools in the desert, sold off his droids and now lives in a cave, cutting himself off from the junk.
This all changes one day when he is approached by an old acquaintance, Jar Jar Binks. Jar Jar informs him that Frik is not the only one of importance. He must now go on a mission to save a young girl named Amilyn Holdo, who has knowledge of a one in a million shot manoeuvre that could change the tide. Watto sets off on his journey, unaware that Darth Vader is out for revenge...
How the heck did you know holdo's first name, that's what's really impressive here
@@cyrus2395 holy shit, thats actually her name lol
lmao
Hey-heyy!!!
Genius
About the Inquisitors, the main idea is that they receive only the most basic training in using the Dark Side of the Force. They will use this training to strengthen the understanding they already have of the Force from being Jedi. They also use different tactics to throw Jedi off their focus to prevent them using the Force. That was the original point of the spinning blades. To catch Jedi off their guard (Let’s hope they don’t turn them into helicopters again). Because of the lack of significant Force training a single Inquisitor is nowhere near as strong as a Jedi Master or Sith and are not considered the latter. Their main threat comes from their intense lightsaber training and if facing a great enough threat, their numbers. Not that I expect the show to go into any of that.
Sidenote- I have no idea why they made the Fifth Brother's voice so over the top growly in this. He didn't sound anything like that in Rebels
He's also asian instead of hispanic. I guarantee some Disney exec saw his hat and made a racial call
You're telling me the Jedi aren't trained to deal with more than one blade at a time.
Alternatively, you're telling me that spinning is indeed a good trick.
@@axelvoss9653 I mean, how do you think Greivous killed so many Jedi, he has more blades AND can spin them!
@@axelvoss9653 Of course spinning's a good trick. We heard from the highest authority.
What I mean by the spinning blades is that the surprise of such a device catches Jedi of guard granting the Inquisitors a small opening where they can't use the Force
@@Cyberleader672
I mean... I can't say it'll ever line up, but two force user kinda cancelling each other out does make sense, thus why we'd never see a fighter using the force to directly snap an opponents spine mid-fight. Likewise, Vader throwing stuff at Luke, using the force? That does make more sense, (similarly to good training helping out with lightsaber duels), rather than the alternative, (sequel trilogy level of bullsh1t).
I can see an angle which would make the Inquisitors fit in-between the Original Trilogy and the Prequels, yet these bundles of sticks are cRiNgE and the whole show isn't even out yet. "Too bad, so sad"
Are they not going to mention how damaging it is to Kenobi’s character to leave Luke alone on Tatooine? Especially since Inquisitors were JUST THERE?! They could sense him! If Obi-Wan EVER needed to be there, it’s now!
thats reycis
@@Quaaludio wut
What is this obsession with Disney to make every former main character some depressed Muppet?
I could give a lecture about cultural marxism at this point.
So the new characters can shine in comparison despite being cardboard cutouts without a personality.
@@nillynush4899 because the West didn't listen to Hitler. Cultural Marxism got me fired from my job, threatened by my co-workers and reported to the police
Well son, let me tell you a story about progressives and patriarchal figures...
I understand and agree, but at least in this case it's established a bit and makes some sense. It feels at least somewhat earned.
6:57 I'm glad Rags brought that up. It was so incredibly jarring to see standard Hollywood score copy pasted over movies that previously had a great John Williams score. It's not a big deal compared to the writing issues but it bothered me so much watching it.
It was AWFUL
I had this with a lot of the accents too. In boba fett, fennec and the mayor secretary guy had thick US accents that sounded so out of place. I couldn’t take anyone seriously when they talked like contemporary muricans and then said some bs Star Wars word.
Same with the space chavs on their razor scooters.
@@johntonssen7231 Ewan McGregor has some weird accents occasionally in this series as well. Especially in ep 5.
I lost all interest in Kenoobi after the first scene.
First: when the clones open the door the first one shoots three times and misses on a stationary target. This just further perpetuates the myth of the "Stormtroopers can't aim" which is doubly funny considering that these aren't Stormtroopers.
Second: The room they are in appears to be pretty high up or rather far away from the main entrance. As we know the clones marched up by the 1000's meaning they had to have run into some Jedi prior to getting to that room. There's no alarm in the Jedi temple? The Jedi Master/younglings couldn't hear the gunfire? They didn't sense the awful things happening right outside their door? Yoda sensed the Jedi purge all the way on Kashyyyk and Ahsoka sensed it while in Hyperspace (which is Disney's own canon) but not her? Awfully convient...
I personally lost interest in Kenobi when mando proved the quality of disney+
@@unformedeight I personally lost interest when Kenobi when TLJ came out
Yeah it took me 10 seconds. The jedi didnt sense this, the troopers miss, the jedi spins and shit, then beckons the children into the fucking gunfire, then instead of just deflecting, does more spins causing their death
I knew there was something off about that scene. Also, how convenient that there were only a few clones chasing them (with the walkway noticably more abandoned than the floors below), allowing the children to escape once the three to six clones are dispatched.
the "stormtroopers can't aim" thing is a great example of what Disney is horrible at. They literally pander to internet memes for storytelling. They are based on real life shock-troops from World War 1 who would storm trenches, they are meant to be elite compared to just Imperial infantry but for some reason they are absolute dogshit STILL to this day because LOL. so they may as well not even be on screen.
Despite how “sad” Obi-Wan was, he had a mission from Yoda. He should’ve been spending time working hard to communicate and then see Qui-Gon. Qui-Gon should be a major character in this series, and during meditation and visions, Yoda should as well. This series should’ve been about fully establishing the Force Ghost ability and how Qui-Gon accomplished it so Obi-Wan and Yoda can accomplish it as well. Hell, this would’ve been a way to have Ahsoka in the series here and there too. Such wasted potential.
They should make Vader repeat the same lines as if he has alzheimers: "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master." I think it would represent Disney's contribution to this franchise pretty well.
This is where the fun begins
Fawk, I just meme that...
"Beaten to the punch I am..."
Yoda Kenobi
“This is where the pain begins.”
For heavens sake! I was invested in this show so much.. 😭
@@sparkypack
Feels bad man, I get ya.
Still, we kinda knew that pattern wasn't going away any time soon.
@@amanibob1416 I should have known tbh. The recent StarWars celebration proofed that nothing good comes from those cringy people.
First they eat chicken with gloves now they're cutting meat out in the hot sun with no refrigeration, do the people of Tatooine just not know how to handle meat?
The also have giant aquatic lifeforms stranded in the middle of the desert without them just rotting away. Maybe there is nothing in the desert that would spoil the meat? Who knows...
@@Bannschwert It's the distant cousin of the Gun Train. It's a ship that airdrops sea monsters into the desert regularly.
@@Paul-bs5wl Obviously.
The sand is actually spices. It makes the meat taste better.
@@smugalice6206 Maybe the sand works as a preservative as well
Kenobi premier: I sleep
EFAP Kenobi premier: Real shit?
Director: "So for this shot you will be running into a tree at (pretend) full speed.."
Actor: "Ummm... ..Okay..."
🌲🌿👀
You could have the
-Empire pretend to help but not really and Bail notices
-They send out bounty hunters but they keep on failing
Your comment got me thinking about this whole thing, I'm going to put it here.
How interesting would it be to have an Empire character (who's in charge of some kind of squad) genuinely trying to help the Organas, like this is a period where the Empire isn't quite as corrupted by the Emperor, and it's trying somewhat to have good relations with other systems and hierarchies. This proposed Empire character could be an honest, devoted person that wants peace in the galaxy, and of course they're happy to be put on this detail to help save this senator's child. Then, if the show lasts a few seasons, maybe this character's relationship with the Organas sours, not by their own doing but by our good guys not being able to trust the Empire to any degree. You know, have this big climactic bit where the Empire character has a dispute with Bail, invoking "I put my life at risk to save your daughter, you really don't trust me?"
Please, please Star Wars, let the Empire have some characters! You almost had it in that one Mando episode, with the happy Stormtroopers congratulating their friends that didn't blow up!
@@kylefrank638 it f*cking baffles me that fans can come up with better stories than these
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You think that's enough quotation marks ??? I'm not sure
@@kylefrank638 The Empire was never "deluted" by Palpatine they were just loyal to the cause. EU Thrawn was a good example, a Grand Admiral, who wasn't really evil per say, just had his own gowls in the Empire. Several others were jist joining because they wanted to make a living. Luke even mentions it in the OT but the Imperial Academy was an easy way to learn how to become a good pilot and would have come with a job aswell if you suceeded. This idea that the whole of the Empire was or is always evil is missplaced save for Vader Palpatine and some Officers, they were doing quite a lot of good, especially for Empire loyal systems.
@@kenkaneki3873 Well, the movies never did a good job of showing us the Empire were never deluded by Palpatine; it seemed like they were his puppets right from the start and from then on. Free thinking Empire-loyalist characters are few and far between. That's not a negative per se, but if Star Wars actually does still have the smallest semblance of a goal to make their intellectual property actually intellectual, I wish they'd look into how to make antagonists that aren't drones, or just idiotic mustache-twirlers. Or in Inquisitors' case, lightsaber-twirlers and (terrible-speechifiers, as well). My good-intentions-Imperial-officer pitch up there is a fantasy, misplaced as it may be.
@@kylefrank638 honestly one thing I’d pay for is a show where the empire are shown as good guys, or at least not just random cartoon villains.
They should have brought back Jason Issacs for the Grand Inquisitor. His face better matches the design from Rebels and he has a much more threatening voice
Jason said he only wants to voice the Inquisitor.
Maybe he has enough self respect to say no, or at least demand to be paid extra to attach his name to this project.
He probably noped out when he read next episodes script and gets killed off by the stunning and brave new inquisitor...
@@benjamingrant5970 Alright I'm confused about this, doesnt the Grand Inquisitor die in Rebels? The story acts as if he died in this show instead.
@@Flashboy284 RIGHT there with ya....I guess it's a "title"....like "Thor".... _apparently_ ?
Completely sick and tired of companies and studios trying to make shows or movies out of every little off-screen, in-between events of old movies. Leaves nothing to the imagination, and most of them are shit anyway.
I’ve learned now over a decade that these movies should’ve just been left alone. These cash cows have literally made me hate these franchises to the point I don’t care to watch the originals
Yes, lets take every throw-away line and make a whole pointless and shitty series out of it!
Oh god, your comment made me think of something awful. So in episode 3 of this show there is a throw away line about Kenobi barely remembering his parents, and a baby he assumes was his little brother... So one of the Star Wars geek channels (Star Wars Comics I think) says theres definitely going to be a story about Obi-Wan's long lost brother, and hes excited for it... I wanted to vomit.
Really it's mostly just Disney. If you take Disney out of the modern landscape, there's a lot less of that.
@@Paul-bs5wl I dont think its "just" Disney though. Hollywood in general is creatively bankrupt. Almost everything green lit and high budgeted is a spin-off, a sequel, or remake of some kind. And its always a twisted perverse version of the original, and never reaches the quality of story telling that sold the originals in the first place.
I think the only semi ok film to come out that contextualized off screen events was rogue one, which was not even good but at least it wasn’t horseshit
The bar scene would've been 100 times better if PG-13 Pinhead didn't say absolutely anything and his presence alone would be enough for the bartender to plead saying there's no Jedi and then the woman one throws the knife yada yada.
And then instead of the stupid cloth support falling have him sway an incoming speeder in to the bar knocking everyone back.
Why didn't Bail Organa get a personal bodyguard for Leia? To the public, she's the daughter of a senator so it wouldn't be far-fetched for her to be watched over by someone 24/7. Hell, they can even develop the bodyguard's character like if the bodyguard had a friendly bond with Leia or was it just a job for the person. And then by the end, have the bodyguard sacrifice his/her life to save Leia. But no, this Disney Star Wars, story/character development be damned.
Something I really dislike about depressed Obi-wan:
"This is Master Obi-Wan Kenobi. I regret to report that both our Jedi Order and the Republic, have fallen with a dark shadow of the Empire rising to take their place. This message is a warning and a reminder for any surviving Jedi. Trust in The Force. Do not return to the Temple…that time has past. And our future is uncertain. We will each be challenged. Our trust. Our faith. Our friendships. But we must persevere. And in time, a new hope will emerge. May the Force be with you, always." - Obi-Wan Kenobi after the Order 66
Clearly the Jedi in this never got the message.
Kenobi kinda forgot he said that...
His loss of faith alone has tremendous storytelling opportunities. But nope, for now, let's focus more on Leia rather than Kenobi. I don't think the story has enough focus on Kenobi's internal conflict, but they always dangle it whenever he calls out Qui-Gon like he's Jesus (Father, Father, why have You forsaken me?)
Retcon
Wait when the fu k di he say that
Rako Hardeen was Obi-wan's undercover Bounty Hunter alias in Clone Wars. He could have used that to go off world and Leia technically wouldn't have met him.
I remember seeing a quote from the producers saying this is going to be character driven like Logan and Joker, that made me laugh for a looong time. Little did I know that they actually managed a whole 20 MINUTES OF IT! Way to go Disney!!!
they seemed to forget that those movies are actually.. good, unlike this.
Guess that was all part of the bait to get fans to watch
I think it'd be really cool if Obi-Wan's nightmares were from a first person's perspective.
Good Camera angles from that high ground to be honest!
Obi-Wan has to have the exact same tism as Boba.
I laughed so hard when the nightmare shows little Jake Loyd pod-racing and flying a Naboo starfighter! Obi-Wan wasn't even around to see any of that! Did George Lucas send him a copy of The Phantom Menace, lol?!
@@mourad505 Obi Won definitely saw him in first person in a space ship
Bail Oragana is a sitting Senator. Logic would demand he has the security resources not only of an entire planet, but the Empire itself to help find his kidnapped daughter.
so naturally the intelligent thing to do in this situation is ignore all that and call in the only man who's involvement could expose the fact that he's harboring one of the most important secrets in the galaxy, and by extension endanger the safety of Luke if people trace Obi-wan back to Tatooine, which would basically destroy all hope the galaxy has for the resurrection of the Jedi order and the defeat of the Sith....
So basically from the first scene the plot of this show is built on characters being idiots to keep things moving
And it's all downhill from there
Disney Star Wars, everyone. Clap you stupid seals....
Also obi wan is just a single man without a star ship and has a big bounty on his head. He would be the very worst person to ask for help. Imagine how much easier it would be if he used a private army with about 200 trained men to look after her, they would gather intel way faster and there would be way less risk.
Peetty sure his wife is the Queen to boot.
and the reason Bail gives is because "you're the only one who knows her true origin" which is better for Leia how? In fact, Obi-Wan's knowledge of Leia's true origin almost gets her killed in a later episode. Disney Star Wars, everyone!
Let's not forget the most important part of all of this. It's established in ANH that none of the secrets come out so why even bother trying to tease it could happen? It makes as much sense as teasing Han or Chewie would die in Solo.
Could you imagine how good a show "could" be if the Empire is tasked to find Leia? Suddenly the Writers would have to make the Empire the good guys for this particular setting. Even if they'd fail on all levels of writing, the setting alone would bring some fresh wind in that dusty closet of theirs.
I just realized that the fact Princess Leia knows that she's adopted means that she knew that she was lying when telling Luke that she remembered her mother. 🤦♂️
On the flip side, he doesn’t have to feel awkward about that kiss since she’s not related to him in anyway, lol.
She could have been talking about her adopted mother, but she would have made that distinction.
"I remember my adopted mother...but I never knew my real mother."
@@cadmus204 She does refer to herself as Organa in the sequels. (curse them), so she does view herself as an Organa even after knowing her real identity!
Luke asked Leia did she remember her real mother, not her adopted mother. His exact words were "Leia, do you remember your mother? Your REAL mother?" Leia knew she was adopted by the time of the OT and since Luke knew, too, it was either common knowledge or Leia confided in Luke at some point that she was adopted.
You're acting like they actually give a shit and watch the movies these shows are supposed to continue. I bet they forgot this line existed.
Its funny you should mention him being a bounty hunter, there was an entire arc in the clone wars where he went undercover as a bounty hunter and did quite well.
How often can we expect these? I hunger to watch them more than the actual show 😆 People defend it so hard and it makes me wanna die
The plan is one every friday.
@@Bilbosilius_Zwackelbaggins I can't wait for ep 3...
@@apkaiser96 Me neither. Only heard great things. Can't wait to finally see them happy with a SW show... *cough*
It isn’t great, but it’s leagues better than Mandalorian and Boba Fett
Mauler said he plans to release all 3 before next Friday.
In clone wars they literally “kill” obi wan to then alter his appearance so he looks like a bounty hunter. I have a time understanding why he didn’t do something similar so wouldn’t look like how he used to. It would also explain the pretty big difference of looks from episode 3 - 4.
yeah I loved that arc but the fact that technology like that exists decades before the OT is a huge issue for all of star wars that happens after that.
even if this were by lucas and not disney we wouldn't know if that would be cannon. The expanded universe is huge, and it has layers of cannonicity.
@@barsbarsbarz what if obi wan used that tech here? at least they would acknowledge it’s existence and it would make some sense. if they need to nerf it well then put a timer on or something, maybe lasts only a week or 2 at most and it’s very difficult and rare to have done, idk
Well, I would assume that he simply doesn't have access to that kind of Tech anymore because he was on the run.
@@johannesseyfried7933 fair, a way you could implement is is when empire took over they got rid of most of that tech but there are a few spaces like black market areas that would be willing to do that for a fee, idk tho, probably better to get rid of the tech
Obi-Wan’s lifestyle: meditating to communicate with Qui-Gon, looking at Luke, and trying to stay under the radar
Disney: ah yes, what a great time for a show!
Reva reminds me of Navy boot camp, when female drill instructors thought that the way to be intimidating is to just yell a lot. Meanwhile the recruits are just rolling their eyes and feeling relieved that the male instructor isn't in the room.
"Ah, I know! Instead of doing something really conspicuous like using my own personal guards or hiring some discreet private contractors to rescue my super secretly not-my-biological-daughter daughter, I need to get really subtle about things instead! Like hiring someone who is probably as wanted and as well-known as Osama Bin Laden, whose entire resume, tool set, and skill sheet involves being about as unsubtle as possible, to rescue my daughter instead! What could possibly go wrong?!"
-Bubsy Organa
Also needs to be pointed out Alderan didn’t go into lockdown when their princess was kidnapped? Hope we don’t see less organized planets go into lockdown quicker somehow
That sounds really ominous.
I sense a disturbance in the universe and story consistency.
I live how they actually have fuck all defence for the Princess of the planet
I mean you could argue that they escaped before anyone realized she had been kidnapped... But yeah, your argument is as supported as mine.
@@mryellow6918 it's a peacful planet close to the core worlds. As much as I like seing young Leia, the ehole kidnapping plot doesnt make sense to me. Then again show needs to happen.
Hot take here i like the first two episodes, i should find time to finish the show, but it already feels dragged out. It feels like they turned a movie into conviently six weeks worth of content.
Alderaan should be under siege... by the Empire. They already know Bail is working with a terrorist
I'm sad. Star Wars has lost pretty much all of its B-movie, indie sci-fi roots.
It's no longer about passion, it's about playing the audience.
bold of you to assume Lucas wasn't also money oriented
Indeed. I kinda put all hope in Kenobi and they can't even manage to produce something close to top tier. 😔 fml!
@@barsbarsbarz in fairness to Lucas i honestly believe it wasn't about money when he made the first movies. Part of the reason why the Prequels failed was because he was trying to do something outside the box. Yes, he monetized the hell out of SW after it was a success, but i think Star Wars was, at one point, a legit passion project of his.
Playing the audience? That's about all Disney knows how to do anymore.
@@petriew2018 I believe George said in an Interview that he didn't want to make his Films too similar to each other.
And....no matter if you like the Prequels or not, I think we can all agree that they were completely different from the first Trilogy.
The opening with the Prequel footage cut up to dramatic music just makes me think of those videos on youtube that essentially do just that. Usually with one or two words as the title like, Star Wars: The Fall, then just splice together every scene of Anakin turning into Evilman to intense music.
There's a ton for MCU and Star Wars stuff, I have to imagine they saw those and thought they'd try their own as a desperate attempt to get people hyped on the franchise that they'll once again shit over.
“How can we make so many high-production shows for cheap?”
“I’ve got it! They’ll all be on Tatooine!”
In the same 2 towns.
"they will all be complete shit"
Remember when Tatooine was just a dusty old rock that Luke desperately wanted to get away from? I am tired of spending so much time there in all these shows. It's such a boring location when you got a galaxy with UNLIMITED potential and creativity at your disposal!
I agree, they've sucked all life out of Tatooine, as if a desert planet had that much to begin with. The world of Star Wars feels so small...
@@catchupichu “man we have a Disney level budget and a story that takes place in an entire galaxy where people can travel between it in the blink of an eye, with thousands of different cultures and species and planets, where should we put our stories?”
“tatooine”
“But we’ve already been there.. and it’s been fleshed out enough and there’s not much else we can do with it.. what if we have them go to like a rogue planet covered in ice and have that story take place in the ocean there? or we have them go onto a gas giant where there are colonies floating high in the atmosphere since there’s no solid ground and only a sea of gas when you get low enough?”
“no tatooine”
“Ok.. maybe we’re gonna start the show on tatooine, then take them off after an episode or 2?”
“no”
“The entire season.. on tatooine?”
“yes”
“Ok.. can we at least have a new location on tatooine? maybe explore some of those caves of gorges we’ve seen?”
“no”
“.. Ok.. so mos eisley area.. again.. Can we at least have many different alien species there?”
“no”
“…”
@@catchupichu yeah that’s the crazy part! The streets in the Kenobi and Boba shows look so… bland. In the originals you had so much going on. So many different kinds of people, and even law enforcement!
Then in the prequels we got to see pod racing and even more aliens.
Disney Star Wars just feels so bland.
@@WrathofArchon it hurts how accurate this is. And nothing better explains how tone deaf and uncreative they are better than the awful power rangers in Boba. The supposed “poor oppressed workers” have cybernetics, fancier clothes than anyone else and have shiny and seemingly costume made speeder bikes…
World building is dead.
Who would've known back then that Tatooine was the most important planet in the galaxy, where the most important people in the galaxy either come from or live on for a period of time...for some reason...
The key is compassion. Her 'compassion' will make her save Luke and reveal she is truly a Jedi. VOMIT!
jep.. I think they do a Fallen Order here.
We need a Jawa show that's set up like Pawn Stars but it's a family of Jawa in a sand crawler
(subtitled) "I am Tchupa, and THIS is my junk crawler."
(Knockoff Guns N Roses intensifies)
Skiffkeeper walks in with a severed human arm.
Tchupa: (off to the side) "We get these a lot. But only _some_ are worth taking a look at."
@@samwallaceart288 unironically yes that is what I crave
I like it! But only if they do it in english so I don't have to read subtitles the entire series.
@@samwallaceart288 someone make this, now.
Oy Vey!
Crazy how dude nailed the story twist at 15:36.
I know I'm really late to this bloodbath, but there's one line that the lads skipped over, that I really want to vent about.
Obi-Wan Kenboi: "My responsibility is to the boy." Bailout Organa: "What about your responsibility to his sister?"
I guess Bail Organa really is a politician... because he's a big pile of bipedal backpedaling bantha poodoo!
As much as Disney would not like us to remember the Prequels, I do remember them... particularly the part where, immediately after Yoda suggested separating the twins, Bail quite eagerly volunteered to take Leia into his custody. I also distinctly recall Obi-Wan then agreeing to take Luke to Tatooine, and that was the end of that conversation. Nothing was said about Obi-Wan being on call or having any sort of obligation to help Leia (and I don't recall the Revenge of the Sith novelization having any such arrangement either). So why are the Organas acting like Obi-Wan has some sort of duty to help them? Ugh...
My mans really guessed the entire plot within the first few minutes
Obi-Wan and Leia should NEVER have met. They have NOT met by the time of SW:ANH. Luke, at the very least, HAS heard of Obi-Wan ("Ben"), maybe even met (or seen) him as far as SW:ANH is concerned (though even that's a stretch). They're going to try and retcon this Leia/Obi-Wan thing by pointing out that Obi-Wan just introduces himself as "Ben" to Leia, but even THAT doesn't work, because Leia still knows that Obi-Wan and Ben are the same person (again, according to SW:ANH), though she hasn't met him. THE main plot, and it completely goes against canon. Ugh, this is just terrible.
what you are missing here is that ben never meets lei in ANH, leia only sees him from afar but they don't interact at all
@@arisrayden Oh, I didn't miss that, it's actually funny. According to this show they know each other well yet in ANH she just sprints into the Falcon with hardly a care about her old buddy getting cut down, lol.
@@elaguajdo yes its still weird even though i barely remember adults form when i was 10 years old with whom i never interacted again ( i was also never kidnapped and saved by such an adult).
my guess is that in the end the forget-me drug will be used on leia or they'll use something else to explain away why she didn't really rmember all of this.
After having played (edit)Fallen Order I can tell you one thing: Shelf the Inquisitors. They are a joke who can be beaten by a Padawan with incomplete training. They are a lot of things but intimidating is not among them.
I watched this episode with my girlfriend. She tough the pursuit was fake and that it was organized by the parents to teach Leia a lesson so that she would stop running away. She was confused when I said it was a real kidnapping.
Oh my god. Fringy called Reva’s entire story
I'm always amazed by EFAP's attempt to be optimistic about the shows and such, like I'm at a point where I don't believe Disney is capable of anything good in SW. I write it off before Disney even has an idea for it.
Have you guys already recorded the readthrough of the final chapter of Gotham High? Its so fun to see you guys laughing at it!
I connect with Fringy on a spiritual level seeing all the good that could be focused on and constantly being disappointed by the reality.
The very existence of the com link between the organas and obi wan makes the entire 1st film null and void. Why would a new hope even happen now.
Can't wait for Obi Wan to be outshined, mocked, belittled, lectured and made a joke out of by every minority that lays their eyes upon him.
I found the hvb fan
Already.
Glorp Shitto is absolutely going to BTFO Obi-wan
@@yaboiportch SPIN
@@shardell "X opinion = Y youtuber" ..Oh dear.
The Leia kidnapping is a better setup for a Boba Fett show than what The Book of Boba Fett had.
Leia has been kidnapped, and her parents figure out that she's been kidnapped by someone working for the empire, so they can't go through official channels to get her back. Instead, they hire Boba Fett to bring her back by any means neccessary. He has the skills to pull this off, he'll seemingly work for anyone who can pay him, and Leia's parents can afford to pay whatever he wants to get the job done.
This gives us the opportunity to have Boba helping the good guys without actually being a good guy. It also creates some situational irony that he's rescuing her from the empire now, and will go on to help the empire capture her later.
It was very nice of Disney to frontload all of the interesting stuff in this series in the first 20 minutes of the show, saves us all a lot of time
This will be the first ever Star Wars content I will not consume on my own outside of EFAP. Disney killed a major part of my life and I am unhappy, but the wound is so deep I feel the pains watching it even through EFAP. The fact that Vader is even in the show for more than just yelling at the inquistors (ie fighting Obi Wan) is mind blowingly stupid and ruins so much.
"I sense a presence I haven't felt since..........." & "When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master"
is now "I gave up searching for you even though we just fought a few times during that one weekend adventure 8 years ago while you were searching for Organa's daughter. Why were you doing that by the way?"
Surely since they retconned that line in a new hope, they’re going to use that as an excuse to make a confrontation that is meaningful and cool and filled with character and good dialogue and not at all bad.. right? r i g h t? surely they would save that for the last episode and not have them “fight” each other multiple times during the season, and they would build up to that confrontation to make it more meaningful.. right?
@@WrathofArchon pulse rifles are shit =P
@@Quaaludio I agree except there’s like 2 good ones- well maybe not good but ones I like to use, those being outbreak prime (totally not biased) and that one from the leviathan that I forgot the name of lol
Seeing those younglings escape was the nail in the coffin for this show.
You can't just make a star wars show where the kids weren't viciously murdered.
i really love what fringy said at the beginning about how hes gonna look for the well made puppets or aliens. just anything that is to be praised and doesnt need shit on just cause the writing is terrible. so many people work on these shows and there is always something good that can be taken away from it.... now time to hear the boys rip apart this mess of a show
I hope that Reva isn't shown to have mind reading powers in the next episode...
If they did that, it would be really convenient that she didn't use that on Owen Lars when she sensed him hiding something...
I really hope they don't do that!
@Waifu Wielder Would you like the answer now?
@Waifu Wielder fair enough.
I hope the empire isn't shown to have life scanners.
If they did that, it would be really convenient when our heroes show up to their base they don't scan the ship and realize it's a threat. Apart from the other more notable plot device of them forgetting droids exist. That would be terrible, because I really love selectively calling out convenience!
@@barsbarsbarz ah yes the good old argument of “there was an inconsistency in the original trilogy so it’s fine that this makes no sense”. If your going to bother, then actually defend the show and stop trying to drag everything else down.
@@kingrippzard2027 you're the one dragging people down. as a star wars fan you should know better than anyone things can be enjoyed without making sense, therefore there's no point of making your comment
“Its a child you know how slow they are!” Sounds rather sinister mauler
In the Clone Wars cartoon Obi-Wan went through surgery to reconstruct his face to that of a bounty hunter's so that he could properly infiltrate an organization. They even faked his death and held a funeral for him, and this was so convincing that even Anakin believed his master was dead.
This was the lengths to which he would go to remain undercover on secret missions. Now? Well, now he just walks through Mos Eisley dressed 100% like a jedi and flashing his lightsaber hilt. Bruh.
Just thought about it, beyond the correct point that Leia didnt seem to know Kenobi personally in A New Hope, Luke DOES know about Ben. We could easily have a passing interaction between child Luke and Ben.
Have him rescue Child Luke from bullies using his creativity or mild Force powers (like his "I spook Tuskens" skill) on his way to work, or something like that.
no because that relies a gram of creativity, which these writers lack
@@WrathofArchon god damn you got me there
Honestly, if not for EFAP I'd never watch anything of disney star wars. Efap reacts is the only way to watch this stuff. It's edited down, funnier, and FAR more entertaining. Also, Hi Rags!
Reva knows that Anakin has a kid and uses her to draw out Obi-Wan…
HOW
How would she know that?? It was NEVER public knowledge that he married or had kids. For all anyone knew, he died in order 66. And the senator from Naboo died along with the children she was pregnant with fathered by… unknown. Whatever-
Added on top of that: HOW does she know Anakin is Vader??
Reva is just THAT amazing- she conveniently just knows everything.
Woo stunning and brave character writing.
I love how Rag’s suggestion of Obi-Wan going undercover as a bounty hunter has already been done really well in TCW
those episodes are some of my favorite, especially the box, probably my 2nd favorite outside of the umbara arc.
Get used to the child chase scenes. Leia never once insinuated that she knew she was adopted until she realized that she's Luke's sister. A total of _four_ living beings know of her origin (Bail, Bail's wife, Kenobi, & Yoda).
I kind of want to rip away every scene that isn't Kenobi 'cause that would be far better than what we got, but it would be so much work and it wouldn't fix future episodes.
Last thing for now, why is Luke not blond? Generally people's hair don't usually get fairer as time passes. Sure, the suns would help, but he should really take on Anakin's looks. It bothers me.
Just remember that in Episode 1 the Inquisitors claim that both A) Jedi are easy to discover because they will reveal themselves to help others, and also B) The Jedi are selfish assholes who will not give themselves up to save others. Both claims are given in a monologue and the show does not seem to care that they are complete contradictions.
You guys were so right when you were talking about obi-wan stopping someone from finding luke or something along those lines, it would have made much more sense and it can clearly work, too, because if you've ever watched person of interest, the first thing they try to do is avert the situation without alerting the one in danger. Great video guys have a good one.
That chase scene made me laugh until my head hurt, especially the part when the green guy tripped 😁.
Hard to take the show as a whole seriously after seeing that despite having a terrifying Darth Vader scene in episode 3
I’m assuming someone beat me to this, but in one of the animated series, obi-wan goes undercover as a bounty hunter to uncover a kidnapping plot of the chancellor.
Kenobi has to earn there trust, he does some grey things.
Y’all are correct Bail has access to a large force that would make up the majority of the rebel alliance.
At this time he would also have secret agents and rebel commandos. The main agent I’m thinking of goes by the name Fulcrum at this time… you know, a certain gray Jedi… but no, no special forces, no rebel agents, call the one old guy protecting the “false prophet”.
Something I realised upon rewatching this is that Leia doesn't act like a normal child when her guard was shot dead in front of her. She never screams nor freeze every time someone dies in front of her. Not the guard, not the bounty hunter that Kenobi shot, not the Stormtroopers (including the one cut in half literally). It doesn't mesh with a sheltered child backstory.
"The limits of the Force are not fully understood. The Force appears to blur the line between life and death. The Force gives those who possess it extraordinary powers over those who do not. Having an organization of rogue Force users, utterly disloyal to the Empire is extremely dangerous. We are seeking to rid the word of this danger, protect the ordinary people, as the citizens of the Empire deserve such safety. *The Emperor protects.* Now, tell us what you know about the Jedi and help us preserve lives".
5 minutes, no editing. A bit better than "their compassion leaves them frail", no?
"This is where the cringe begins..."
Bilbo Kenobi
All Officer Moses woulda had to do is yell " *insert relevant amount of space money here* to who ever informs on *insert name of jedi here* " and those peasants would become the empires eyes and ears willingly, its Tattooeen, hive of scum and villiany remember?
I just showed my family everything everywhere all at once and now you subject me to this.
I was more excited to see this efap mini than I have been to see any movie or show made in the last 10 years at least - and I was not disappointed.
5 mins in and fringy literally figured out the plot of the fucking show LMAOO
Oh sweet,I was wondering when the minis were gonna start coming out since Mauler's already up to date and been talking about the show with Drinker
He's been on The Real BBC and FNT by Heelsvs Babyface and Nerdrotic (excellent podcasts) talking about it too
I remember in season 5 of samurai jack, they made a BIG DEAL about jack not having his sword and watching him fight without it was fascinating. When he got it back, it was an INTENSE moment filled with "fuck yes!!!!" vibes. I hope it's SOMETHING like that here with oni and his saber