Korg MS2000B Patches

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  • @moogdome2562
    @moogdome2562 6 років тому +18

    I have one. The first thing that attracted me to it was, it looks amazing and has so many controls to shoot you into hyperspace. Sounds great. thank you for sharing.

  • @WrvrUgoThrUR
    @WrvrUgoThrUR 4 роки тому +26

    One of the most underrated and SEXIEST LOOKING synths ever. Glad I finally discovered and was able to purchase a working one 18 years after it hit the market.

    • @GunninRebel55
      @GunninRebel55 3 роки тому

      Does this record?

    • @WrvrUgoThrUR
      @WrvrUgoThrUR 3 роки тому

      @@gnthr7992 still love it. Had an OB6 as well. I sold the OB6. Wasn’t as much fun to tinker with

    • @WrvrUgoThrUR
      @WrvrUgoThrUR 3 роки тому

      @@GunninRebel55 no. Well, you can do single not tep sequences

    • @GunninRebel55
      @GunninRebel55 3 роки тому

      @@WrvrUgoThrUR I actually ended up getting one of these a few months back. Truly amazing piece of equipment. I love it. Thanks for the info.

    • @meilstone
      @meilstone 10 місяців тому +1

      Nice, it was my real first hardware synth module in 2005 and I still use it today!

  • @richcolour
    @richcolour 3 роки тому +6

    Your patches are the reason I bought an MS2000R, beautiful sounds!

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much! If you want the patches for free let me know!

    • @richcolour
      @richcolour 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs That would be fantastic DWR! I'm mastermix@richcolour.com
      Really appreciate your generosity. Many thanks!

    • @emersonrocky8724
      @emersonrocky8724 3 роки тому

      I know it is quite off topic but do anyone know a good website to stream new movies online?

    • @alexanderbranson9578
      @alexanderbranson9578 3 роки тому

      @Landyn Mauricio yea, been using flixzone for since april myself :)

    • @hunterzayne2730
      @hunterzayne2730 3 роки тому

      @Landyn Mauricio Definitely, I've been using Flixzone for months myself =)

  • @laurajoy4370
    @laurajoy4370 7 років тому +9

    the very first sound is haunting. amazing. I want one of these so bad.

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  7 років тому +3

      Evelyn V. Thanks, that first one (ocean sky) is one of my favourites, I made it a few years ago. ms2000b's sell for about £350-£450 on eBay. the Microkorg has the exact same synth engine which is handy as it's cheaper for a brand new one. If you get one (ms2000b or Microkorg) I can send you that "ocean sky" patch if you like :)

    • @laurajoy4370
      @laurajoy4370 7 років тому +2

      Dark Window Recs that would be awesome :) I'm saving up for one

    • @OHHnoYOUdidntMAN
      @OHHnoYOUdidntMAN 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs Any chance you could send the patches to me as well :) spencerashton0@gmail

  • @ClubSodaSkids
    @ClubSodaSkids 3 роки тому +4

    6:30 is just amazing

  • @psychosculptor
    @psychosculptor 4 роки тому +5

    I have a rack version, my favorite synth ... in conjunction with korg z1 is just a bomb

  • @DILLIGAFCHRIS
    @DILLIGAFCHRIS 7 років тому +2

    Some great sounds! more please great synth.....very helpful......your work is awsome.......

  • @TheChemistt1
    @TheChemistt1 5 років тому +2

    I really dig that FM Pad!

  • @hotfirecaster
    @hotfirecaster 3 роки тому +1

    Your patches are fantastic ! Great work! Congrats !

  • @TheMadisonHang
    @TheMadisonHang 5 років тому +2

    this sounds soo bomb

  • @xGatoDelFuegox
    @xGatoDelFuegox 4 роки тому +1

    Wow , soar sound like it was used in mrko's remix of black box's "open your eyes"

  • @synriser6742
    @synriser6742 7 років тому +1

    Some very nice patches!

  • @bbingtube
    @bbingtube 3 роки тому +2

    This video might make me pull the trigger on one fs rn. 😏

  • @DechenHall0104
    @DechenHall0104 6 років тому +2

    The first patch of yours kinda sounds like the 2-Way Slide preset patch from the Roland JD-800

    • @hedegaard8
      @hedegaard8 6 років тому +1

      Found on I-61 on the JD :)

  • @Alton_Roundtree
    @Alton_Roundtree 5 років тому +1

    Analog steps, I need that patch

  • @candeebradin
    @candeebradin 5 років тому +2

    so good

  • @camillem.8668
    @camillem.8668 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting patches especially the fm pad at 4:34 and Pulse Step, is it possible to get them ?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому

      Thank you, unfortunately not at this moment in time as someone has been fraudulently selling my patches and pretending to be me, so until I can sort this problem out I am not giving out any of these patches. If anyone gets in touch with you and tries to sell you these patches please DO NOT purchase them.

  • @ClaireSweets
    @ClaireSweets 3 роки тому

    2nd last one is my fave.

  • @drew3906
    @drew3906 2 роки тому +1

    How.. can I get these amazing patches? Ocean Sky and 4 Osc pad.. some of the most beautiful sounds I have EVER heard!!!!

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому

      Thanks! Unfortunately due to someone fraudulently selling my patches and pretending to be me, I am not currently giving these patches out at the moment. But when I do they will be for FREE just as they originally were when I first uploaded these ms2000b videos. If you check out my Instagram @darkwindowrecs I will eventually gives these patches out for FREE again. If anyone tries to sell them to you please DO NOT buy them.

    • @drew3906
      @drew3906 2 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs Okay, I understand. I don't have an instagram :(

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому +2

      @@drew3906 no problem, when the time comes that I decide to give the samples out again I will reply back to you in this chat and let you know 👍

    • @drew3906
      @drew3906 2 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs Thank you :)

  • @marcelocabral-manduri5921
    @marcelocabral-manduri5921 4 роки тому +1

    hello.
    Congratulations!
    this songs, i have in ms 2000 traditional synth to?

    • @marcelvicente8646
      @marcelvicente8646 4 роки тому +1

      GREAT QUESTION

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому

      Hi! Thank you! I think you can use these sounds (synth patches) in the traditional ms2000, but some bits will be missing because the ms2000b has a couple of extra things the original ms2000 does not have

  • @luissantana6338
    @luissantana6338 3 роки тому +1

    Hello great patch work. How many presets did you design? And where can l purchase them?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому

      Thanks! I designed all the patches in both of the korg ms2000b videos. The patches are free, if you would like them I can send them to you via email

  • @flossy2306
    @flossy2306 2 роки тому +1

    These patches are awesome! Are they still available?

    • @flossy2306
      @flossy2306 2 роки тому +2

      Ocean Sky is to die for! Wow.

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Yes of course, what's your email and I'll send them across to you this week (probably monday)

  • @binarysun_
    @binarysun_ 3 роки тому +1

    wow! Does someone know how to recreate the "Ocean Sky" patch with another synth?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому

      You might not be able to get the 'exact' same sound using a different synth, but I can send you the parameter chart so you can have a go at trying to get the same sound using a different synth (given the synth you use has roughly the same parameter controls etc ) if you like?

    • @binarysun_
      @binarysun_ 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs that would be really nice. I have a bunch of synths at my hand. Some Waldorfs, Modulars, Novations, Mutable Instruments, and a bunch of other synths. This patch instantly sparked an idea for an Electro Funk track. :) Maybe I have to get an MS2k anyway at some point ;)

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому

      @@binarysun_ how did you want me to send the patch chart to you? It will be a photo of a patch template picture, so do you want me to send it to you via email or FB, Instagram, or messenger?

    • @binarysun_
      @binarysun_ 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs you can send it via insta @stefanmarbury, if you like 👍. Thank you very much 🙂

    • @mikesauta7626
      @mikesauta7626 3 роки тому

      Oh my, i have an ms2000, if you could send me any patch charts ill take em…i dont have a proper computer to upload these patches from, and i like to do them by hand anyways cuz it gives me a better idea on how patches are put together

  • @waveware2739
    @waveware2739 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Dark, excellent work on your patches. Nice variation and its some of the best ones ive heard from the ms2000 series. Just picked up a B used. I know this has been asked of you ad nauseum but could you send me the patches for this video and your 02 vid as well? Cheers

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Unfortunately due to someone that I had given these patches too had decided to sell them fraudulently pretending to be me, I can not give these patches out at the moment. If I do eventually give these patches out FOR FREE again in the near future I will declare it on my social media @darkwindrecs

  • @polyvoxstyle7794
    @polyvoxstyle7794 5 років тому +1

    Super!

  • @nathandillaha1480
    @nathandillaha1480 3 роки тому +3

    These are literally some of the coolest patches, Ive heard for the MS2000B. Do you think it's possible to achieve these on my original MS2000?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому +3

      Thank you so much! Of course yes, the only difference between the original MS2000 and MS2000B is that the 'B' version is black (instead of dark blue) and it has an XLR input on the front panel. Other than that, they are both the exact same engine. Did you want these patches? Send me your email and I'll send them over shortly

    • @nathandillaha1480
      @nathandillaha1480 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs That's so nice of you! Thank you! I would love to try the patches out. My email is "nathandillaha at gmail dot com"

    • @zarp89
      @zarp89 2 роки тому +2

      Hey! is it possible to get a copy of these patches as well?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому +1

      @@zarp89 if course! Send me your email and I'll try and get them over to you either at the weekend or next week

  • @MothershipOracle
    @MothershipOracle 2 роки тому +1

    i especialy like "ocean sky". "osc pad" "pink diamond" , great patches! did you build those on the synth itself? -i've just bought a second hand ms2000B, only just fired it up and getting used to it, made a few of my own patches, but yours are superb. would love these.

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! Yes I designed all of those entirely on the ms2000b, I can send them across to you if you give me your email address, it might not be until next week as I'm very busy at the moment but I can definitely send them to you

  • @jnnybravo
    @jnnybravo 4 роки тому +1

    They sound great! Great work. Do you have those for sale?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! These ones are free, if youd like them just give me your email and I'll send them to you in the next few days

  • @karstetterpj
    @karstetterpj 2 роки тому +1

    This sounds amazing, is there any way I could get the patches from you?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Unfortunately due to someone pretending to be me and stealing these patches and selling them, I am unable to give them out at the moment. Please be aware If anyone tries to sell these patches to you then they are doing so illegally. I'm really sorry about that, hopefully I will get this resolved and i will be able to give these out for free (completely free) some time soon.

    • @karstetterpj
      @karstetterpj 2 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs Oh wow I'm sorry, that sucks! You can always count on someone ruining things for everyone else. That said, I'd absolutely send you some dollars for these if you want!

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому

      @@karstetterpj thank you! No that's fine, I have given these same patches away for free so I wont charge you anything. They are completely free for anyone! Like I say, if someone tries to sell them to you DO NOT PURCHASE them!

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  2 роки тому

      @@karstetterpj I will keep you updated and let you know when I can send them to you for free. I'm very busy at the moment so it wont be just yet

    • @karstetterpj
      @karstetterpj 2 роки тому +1

      @@DarkWindowRecs copy that! I look forward to them. Hope you have a great rest of the week!

  • @thelastrobot
    @thelastrobot 6 років тому +1

    Hi!, nice work. Do you share your patches?, I´ve made a few myself too. :)

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  6 років тому

      Thanks! Yes I share them, if you I've me your email I'll get them sent across by next week. Have you got any videos showing your patches?

  • @jemgel1162
    @jemgel1162 2 роки тому +1

    Great job, really original sounding patches that play the strengths of this synth. Do you listen to Ladytron? That band uses this synth in a "spooky" way like you do!

  • @midigek
    @midigek 4 роки тому +1

    These are amazing sounding patches ! If you want to share these...thank you so much. My email = Thank you very much for the patches !!

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому

      Thank you! No problem, I'll send them over to you shortly

    • @midigek
      @midigek 4 роки тому +1

      I checked my email today and....YES, I received the patches, so thank you very much for these !

    • @jumpingflash
      @jumpingflash 4 роки тому +1

      Any chance you could share the patches with me too? Thanks I'm advance

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому

      @@jumpingflash sure no problem

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому

      @@jumpingflash what's your email?

  • @drew3906
    @drew3906 5 років тому +1

    What did you use to make your intro? It sounds amazing.

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  5 років тому +2

      Thanks it's one of my synth patches I made in Reason 10

  • @dodochrist8277
    @dodochrist8277 6 років тому +1

    Where can I find one of these to buy?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  6 років тому +1

      Dodo Christ korg stopped making these, but the Microkorg has the exact same synth engine and you can get a new one for less than £400. Or you could always try eBay? Korg ms2000b's do sell on eBay quite often for about £400 -£450 which is a reasonable price if it's in good condition. Anything cheaper than £350 is a bargain!

  • @Andrew-K
    @Andrew-K 4 роки тому +1

    Isn’t the microKORG based on this sound engine?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому

      Yes the microkorg and ms2000b have the exact same engine

    • @Andrew-K
      @Andrew-K 4 роки тому

      Cool! I haven’t made any sounds like these with my MK yet but I’ll try soon. Are there any differences between them? (Other than design)

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому

      @@Andrew-K the only thing I can think of is the vocoder on the ms2000b has the 16 band vocoder version and the 3 layer motion sequencing with the 16 white square buttons above the keys. But I could be wrong Haha!

  • @Alton_Roundtree
    @Alton_Roundtree 3 роки тому +1

    Did you ever email these patches out?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому

      I send them out on request. Have you asked for these patches before? If I forgot to sent them out to you then I apologise! Give me your email and I'll send them to you over this weekend

  • @pmcgeechan
    @pmcgeechan 6 років тому +1

    Hi Great patches do you sell them?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  6 років тому

      Thanks my MS2000b patches in these videos are free, if you'd like them send me you Gmail address and I'll send them across. If you want to find out more check out my Facebook page Dark Window Recs :)

    • @adriennemcgeechan7079
      @adriennemcgeechan7079 6 років тому

      Great thanks for that, will check put FB. pmcgeechan1@gmail.com

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  6 років тому

      @@adriennemcgeechan7079 sorry for the delay I'm quite busy this week but I will send you these patches when I get a spare moment :)

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  6 років тому

      @@adriennemcgeechan7079 I've just sent them across, could you let me know if you got them

    • @montazownianr1
      @montazownianr1 6 років тому +1

      @@DarkWindowRecs Can I have these cool patches? rzabsky79@gmail.com Thank You :)

  • @drake1011
    @drake1011 3 роки тому +1

    Does this have the same sounds as the original ms2000 and microkorg?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому +1

      The ms2000b came preloaded with new presets and possibly some of the original patches from the first ms2000 too, but I'm not 100% sure. The patches in my videos are all my own creation and cant be found natively on either ms2000 or ms2000b synths

    • @drake1011
      @drake1011 3 роки тому +1

      @@DarkWindowRecs Nice! But they both have the same synth engine correct? Excuse a complete newbie if these questions sound dumb lol

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому +1

      @@drake1011 yeah that's correct they both have the same synth engine. The ms2000 has a few extra features such as 16 band vocoder (microkorg is only 8 band, but that's not always a bad thing) and 3 motion record parts (plus it's got full size keys) but they are exactly the same synth engine. The MicroKorg can take batteries which is handy. That's ok! The best way to learn new things is by practice and talking to others!

    • @drake1011
      @drake1011 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs appreciate it!

    • @drake1011
      @drake1011 3 роки тому +1

      @@DarkWindowRecs how can i get your patches?

  • @VaralRoyal
    @VaralRoyal 3 роки тому

    can I make exactly the same sounds in ms 2000?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому +1

      Yes. Both the MS2000 and the MS2000B have the same synth engine

    • @VaralRoyal
      @VaralRoyal 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs good! i watched your two videos of ms2000 sounds. do you send them? how it works? do you know how do i have a classic timbre of old detune synthesizer on it?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому

      @@VaralRoyal i usually send them to people by email, so if you send me your email address I will send them to you this weekend. I don't quite understand what you mean about the detuned synthesizer? Can you explain what you mean in more detail?

    • @VaralRoyal
      @VaralRoyal 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs oh...good! marcianteland@gmail.com
      Thank you soo much.
      Detune classic synth... like songs Juno or Júpiter 8...traditional song synth

    • @VaralRoyal
      @VaralRoyal 3 роки тому

      @@DarkWindowRecs in this vídeo. The first song is about i am Talking. Is very beautifull. Is possible whit ms2000?
      ua-cam.com/video/tpkQsmXFy3w/v-deo.html

  • @nosynthtofear2681
    @nosynthtofear2681 3 роки тому

    Nice, it’s mumtitimbral?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому

      Yes the multitimbral modes can be set as either; 2 layer multitimbral and keyboard split multitimbral.
      The MS2000b has 4 voices and you can choose if you want timbre 1 or 2 to have the following voice combination; 1+3, 2+2, 3+1

  • @davidpicarazzi
    @davidpicarazzi 4 роки тому

    Always wanted one of these although i am kind of new to synthesis. Are these tough to use?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому +1

      No they are pretty straight forward, but let me elaborate first- anyone who is new to synthesis will find most synthesizers difficult to use for the first time, but the more you practice with the same synthesizer the easier it will get, and you will also become familiar with synth architecture and signal paths. The korg MS2000's control panel is labelled and set out in an easy to understand workflow which really helps to start diving a bit deeper into synthesis. Ideally, the best type of synth to learn is something that is laid out similar without to much menu diving, so all the main controls are right in front of you. Roland and korg (as well as many others) have quite a few synths laid out in this way. Some good examples are Roland's boutique range, and korgs monologue/prologue. Have you use as synth before? Software synths are a good place to start, cheaper and take up less room! 🙂

    • @davidpicarazzi
      @davidpicarazzi 4 роки тому +1

      @@DarkWindowRecs I have a few soft synths and a Juno 60! I love my Juno because it's so easy to turn on and play.
      Does the MS2000 have Midi? Wondering if it did, how I could get that set up with my DAW so I can use Ableton's Piano Roll (Im not a good piano player lmao)

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому +1

      @@davidpicarazzi yes it does have midi, thats a good idea if you prefer using a piano roll editor.
      Also, the Microkorg has the exact same synth engine as the MS2000. The microkorg does everything the MS2000 does except its smaller keys and not as many front panel controls, but you can (as far as I know) still access all necessary parameters using the front panel controls. Juno 60 awesome!! That's a great synth to get familiar with how a lot of synths are structured, particularly subtractive synthesis (which both the Juno 60 and MS2000 are).

    • @davidpicarazzi
      @davidpicarazzi 4 роки тому +1

      @@DarkWindowRecs Thank you!! I love how the MS2000 is not too expensive. Perhaps under rated still?

  • @jamesallan87
    @jamesallan87 5 років тому +2

    Amazing patches/sounds you’ve created with this beast. Do you ever run it through external effects? I just wish the inbuilt drive had a level control.
    The first synth I ever tried was the MS2000 and I had a loan of one for a while. Years later I eventually bought myself the MS2000BR.
    I wish sometimes I’d waited for a version with keys, but then again the keys version is huge and takes up a lot of space! Haha. The BR is nice for just sitting in-front of my MPC or next to the laptop being sequenced from Ableton.

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  5 років тому

      Thanks yes i do run it through a cheap reverb unit to give it more air. And I completely agree with you about the drive control, but there's always the ability to adjust both oscs' volume control

  • @pinocarella_00
    @pinocarella_00 3 роки тому

    che differenza c'è tra MS2000 e MS2000B?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  3 роки тому

      The ms2000 is dark blue, and the ms2000b is black and also has an XLR input on the front. I think they might have a few different presets built in, but they are the only differences

  • @user-ce2i
    @user-ce2i 6 років тому +1

    I love these! Would these patches work for an MS20?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  6 років тому +1

      Thanks :) as far as I know they wouldnt work for an ms20 but there are a few patches that you might be able to get close to with if you was to programme the ms20 yourself,but even then it would not sound identical. Are there any patches you like in particular? Do you use a DAW?

  • @wizards001
    @wizards001 4 роки тому

    Can we find these patches online?

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  4 роки тому +1

      They are in the Korg ms2000 group on facebook

  • @Majigitajog
    @Majigitajog 3 роки тому

    Ladytron brought me here hahaha

  • @ytatoyan
    @ytatoyan 7 років тому

    how you transfer .syx files to the MS2000B .Please say.

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  7 років тому +1

      Yura Keyz midi ox is a free midi utility program which I use. Just look up 'midi ox' in Google. There are other programs but I only use midi ox. Hope that helps

    • @ytatoyan
      @ytatoyan 7 років тому

      Dark Window Recs Thanks so much.Can you transfer .syx file that i will send you?Please say your email i will send you that patches.I will be very thankful if you upload video about my .syx file.

    • @ytatoyan
      @ytatoyan 7 років тому +1

      Dark Window Recs Thanks so much.Can you transfer .syx file that i will send you?Please say your email i will send you that patches.I will be very thankful if you upload video about my .syx file.

    • @DarkWindowRecs
      @DarkWindowRecs  7 років тому +1

      Yura Keyz ok sure no problem, are you on Facebook?

    • @ytatoyan
      @ytatoyan 7 років тому

      Dark Window Recs i dont have FaceBook bro, can you say your email? i will send you.

  • @inigoibanez1138
    @inigoibanez1138 4 роки тому +1

    WTF!!!

  • @kurtzmenabrea
    @kurtzmenabrea 8 місяців тому

    It's a nice synth to look at, but it's essentially a toy without substance. Very little polyphony, and often monophonic. Toy sounds. After all, it has the same engine as the Mikrokorg. Maybe it's good for kids under 12 who love techno, house, and various stupid things... for a barely decent entry level, start at least with a SEQUENTIAL Prophet 10 (the minimum) otherwise don't buy the synths.