Is A.I. Art Unethical?

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  • @magnum567134
    @magnum567134 7 місяців тому +5

    6:32. It already has. Maybe not at the capacity that everyone fears, but it's already started. Last year I went to Comic Con during the strike. Since the actors couldn't promote things as they normally would, a lot of talks ended up being about the strike.
    Some of them said that there are already scripts out there written by AI. Or they get an original script from an actual person, but rewrites will be done by AI so that they don't have to pay. They also mentioned actors having their voices duplicated (with a cg model or other stand-in) so that the studio doesn't have to pay.
    Entertainment is still a business, which means the big guys will cut costs any way possible. Thinking that they'll care more about a quality product than the bottom line is naive. AI can produce stuff way faster than humans. Producing endless amounts of content without having to invest means there's money to be made, regardless of how shitty that content is

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому +2

      This is so disheartening to hear. 😔 But at the end of the day, if the product quality is terrible, nobody will want to buy it. A lot of people hate AI, and even those who don't would probably choose to see a movie written by a person rather than an AI, right> Human beings will always produce better quality products than AI (at least, I think so). I really hope the studios see the error of their ways on this one.

  • @taizeen1805
    @taizeen1805 7 місяців тому +3

    I think you're the first person I've found on the internet to have a reasonable/informed opinion about AI Art. Nice video.

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому

      Thank you, that's very kind!

  • @idfkwuttotype
    @idfkwuttotype 7 місяців тому +4

    Letting the Ai have such a huge place in our life is the most best way to make alot of people's lives in danger
    You said that it's a new technology for us , the humans , meanwhile it used to exist since the 90s but it wasn't dangerous because it wasn't trained on people's art works , without talking about artists , the Meta is literly training it's Ai by any picture they got on Instagram , I already heard that they are planning to make a chatting ability on it therefore they train it with your own direct messages and we all know not every direct messages are friendly and available to all , and they are not tireding themselves to make filters nor anything simmilar to it , and the worst is they are not limiting it nor working on it , they won't stop and this called "Madness".
    Real eyes realize that if we won't stop it now and make it disapear as it used to be , the humanity will be in another level of devastation , our life before the Ai was not going well ; How do you imagine it with Ai ? And do you think there's no malicious intentions in developing this technology and make for it a place in our life as a one of life basics out of no where...?
    This doesn't need to think about it too much , but what makes people still quite about it is the fact that most of them blind or they act like that since thier job , which it's thier money source of course , will let them act with this way and look only in the nearest point in thier view , ignoring what will they cause , we cannot do nothing , they're themselves just workers who are asked to do whatever they do , and that's pretty sad to see.

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому

      Wow, this is a really thoughtful reply, thanks very much for taking the time to weigh in! I can definitely see where you're coming from, and we need people like you being critical of the technology. I think that with AI, it's all in how we use it. I think it could potentially be very harmful, but it also could benefit us. We just have to use it properly.

  • @vraisairs9201
    @vraisairs9201 7 місяців тому +14

    AI should build cars, take out the garbage, and do your taxes. Not sing songs, paint landscapes, and write novels

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому

      I think I see your point. We shouldn't have AI replacing humans in creative fields. But if people in creative fields WANT to use AI, I don't see a problem with that.

    • @vraisairs9201
      @vraisairs9201 7 місяців тому +2

      @@VRstylish thanks for responding. There’s a sliding scale though. Content aware fill or AI denoising are tools. They adjust an image in a way that people can’t usually. But those “people” who want to use AI to make art are eventually going to be corporations that use AI instead of artists. It will steal artists’ jobs and it will use their own art to do it.
      If there was a complex copyright system that paid every single artist that gets used in a particular prompt, that would be different. But as it stands now, it is just uncredited collage.

  • @serenityvoid
    @serenityvoid 7 місяців тому

    As an artist and someone who is concerned about this subject, I do agree that AI can’t and won’t be able to do the work we do as creatives for a long time, but that’s not all of my concern. I think what I’m most concerned about, is the people who don’t value our work as creatives, people such as the corporations who just want money and those who choose the easy path instead of practicing their skills and becoming artists (of any kind).
    It has been said multiple times that people on the movie industry want to replace most of the artists that work there with AI, to reduce costs and make the work faster, that will likely reduce the quality significantly, but it doesn’t seem like they care. There’s a lot of people selling AI “art” and calling themselves artists, claiming this is something they did and that they “tried” learning art, but just couldn’t and so, this doesn’t make them less of an artist, like they’re not profiting off of someone else’s hard work, work that they themselves have admitted they didn’t wanna do. Even among creatives, there’s well known singers using AI to create the promotion for concerts and even one of the most prestigious animation schools (gobelins) has been discovered to have used AI for promoting the place itself.
    Those all feel like a slap in the face to every person trying to improve on any form of art, with hopes that they’ll be able to make a living off of something they feel truly passionate about, I’m not worried about if AI will or won’t catch up to the level of artists (albeit, that’s still concerning but not my main concern atm), because as of right now, it doesn’t feel like it truly matters if it ever does, people are already getting rid of us with soulless creations, just because they are easier to use and less expensive.
    But I do want to thank you for this video, it does feel nice to see someone doing proper research and talking respectfully about this, amidst everything going on right now, it’s people like you that help us believe we can get through this and continue doing what we love.

  • @priceyindividual2995
    @priceyindividual2995 7 місяців тому +4

    I personally really despise AI and no offense to you but frankly, as an artist, I do look down on people who use it as not being artists. Now I'm not communist, but I do see it as an attempt to steal the means of production in a way that is reminiscent of the industrial revolution that brought about the rise of communism. Except it isn't going to have any of the benefits that the industrial revolution did.
    Saying that it's a tool to empower the artist is like saying a massive pressboard furniture factory is a tool to empower the carpenter. Look where that ended up, now instead of a beautiful hand-crafted piece of furniture made by a master who possesses a great understanding and connection with his tools you get the most bland and easy to manufacture version of literally everything. Instead of highly skilled carpenters to make a chair now you just need someone who can turn a screwdriver for $12/hour. This is the direction that the people making these AI tools are looking, toward the industrialization of creative work.
    You're right in saying that there will still need to be some artists somewhere in the production, but that artist is doing the work of many artists for less pay than an artist would have previously commanded.
    But thankfully AI can't do traditional art so while this will devalue digital art it can't do the same for traditional work. There is a traditional renaissance coming and I can see a future where more projects big and small are being carried out by art teams working traditionally. Cuphead is a good example of something that has actually already done this, even though it was made before the rise of AI it is a good proof of concept for what I'm saying.

    • @idfkwuttotype
      @idfkwuttotype 7 місяців тому

      Oh no dear fella , why do you think they're are developing bots with Ai program ?
      I lately saw a bot which was created as a cafe maid , literly talk and make jokes with the clients which caught me out and we don't need to wait longer to see bots with creative skills
      There's also a competition that apeared in which the winner used Ai to make his piece saying "I used Ai and I won , I didn't break any rule" so this made me began to hate , it went further than just not supporting the idea , it pushed me to have hatred towards this technology that is made since the beganning with maliciuos intentions.
      But what you said is right , I hope either for no Ai projects to apear in the future

    • @O_Draws
      @O_Draws 7 місяців тому +1

      "Saying that it's a tool to empower the artist is like saying a massive pressboard furniture factory is a tool to empower the carpenter." This!

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому

      This is a very thoughtful reply, thanks very much for taking the time to weigh in. I think where I disagree with you is that I don't think AI art will ever be able to industrialize art, because I think art needs a certain level of humanity in it that most AI can't really replicate. We may be able to use AI to do some of the "shit work" in art (like backgrounds, etc.) but the bulk of the creativity needs to come from humans, or it won't resonate with people. Even if you do A.I. projects like mine (that aren't really art) you need a human behind the wheel directing the A.I. But I think you bring up some great points, thanks again for taking the time!

    • @pickled_avocado68
      @pickled_avocado68 7 місяців тому

      @@VRstylish I disagree, large companies do not mind creating soulless works, just look at most of what Hollywood and the music industry is churning out. The average consumer does not care for art with soul but for mind numbing content that takes them out of their lives.

    • @WhizPill
      @WhizPill 7 місяців тому

      As you should, when this tech billionaires insist that they're doing this for the greater good while having the audacity to exploit you while mocking you to your face, of course they will not make a lot of fans
      If you replace "AI" with "greed & exploitation" all the points and criticism of the creators who are victims of it add up, they're a cautionary tale against the red flag grifts that the tech industry is full to the brim of, glad companies like Adobe and Open AI are being called out publically, Scarlet Johansson might sue them specifically for using her voice without consent, that's the key difference, it's all about violation of concent, that's what artists are outraged about

  • @RIPxBlackHawk
    @RIPxBlackHawk 7 місяців тому +3

    The content of your opinions in this video is outdated. Your ethical understanding seems immature. I think you lack understanding about human cognition, the developmental pace of AI, current levels of AI development, human psychology and the principles of incentives, to come to an accurate or even respectable conclusion.
    I understand this sounds condescending, and we are in a culture that dismisses this tone. Editing a comprehensive argument while avoiding being condescending already took half an hour, so to keep it concise I abandoned doing that, instead I hope to inspire reconsideration and research of the opinions you hold.

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому

      Thanks very much, this is very valuable feedback for me. I'll definitely work on making my arguments clearer and sounding less condescending.

    • @PokeNebula
      @PokeNebula 7 місяців тому

      If you don't want to come across as an egocentric with no regard for the opinions of others, while elevating your own opinions to the status of fact, then you will need to try even harder. you can't just say "i understand that we are in a culture that dismisses my tone". If it's impossible to delineate just one part of your opinion concisely and meaningfully into a short comment, then maybe the idea wasn't that developed in your head in the first place.

    • @RIPxBlackHawk
      @RIPxBlackHawk 7 місяців тому

      @@PokeNebula My comment was not meant for you. Your perception of me is irrelevant

  • @fitzciaran
    @fitzciaran 7 місяців тому

    I find the push back against it bizarre especially the argument that using it is ethically grey. Low quality ai yt channels are bad because they are low quality not because of how they are made. The issue is the yt algorithm optimizing for...whatever it optimizes for, rather than quality.
    The ability to generate AI images, videos, art, audio is incredible and can help as part of all sorts of creative endeavours. As it gets better there will be economic adjustments just as there were to the horse and cart industry when trains/cars came around, and it will be important to support people through that but it's no reason to reject great new tools.

  • @DesignDesigns
    @DesignDesigns 7 місяців тому +3

    I see no problem with A.I untill it becomes as conscious as we humans are!! As long as A.I is unconscious, it is just a "TOOL".

  • @vraisairs9201
    @vraisairs9201 7 місяців тому +2

    It’s not inspiration, it’s collage

  • @peterhallman9614
    @peterhallman9614 7 місяців тому

    I'm not a huge fan of AI, but it definitely has its uses and benefits.
    I do however feel it has to be disclosed clearly that something is AI generated (art or other uses).

  • @nero7699
    @nero7699 7 місяців тому +1

    mmm A.I. slop mmmm
    I love products made by people who have no taste creating make slop. 😋

  • @ElecDude
    @ElecDude 6 місяців тому

    Artists using copyrighted art as reference and ideas, artists have no problem because that beginner will take years to be a threat to the original artists livelihood
    Ai using copyrighted art as reference and ideas, now it's a problem because the Ai being so much faster and ever evolving now its a threat to there livelihood
    If Ai is criminal so is "BEING" an artist

  • @xt-cj7jg
    @xt-cj7jg 7 місяців тому

    heyy, i like the content but i usually watch these videos when showering, i had a sudden interest in AI, i think its ethical IF the use of the trained art is made by the artist themselves, it could be great if an artist is capable of making a model of themselves and could profit off that themselves.
    So maybe make it so that people who make models should get permission from artist they ask for which is increasingly rare because noone likes AI apparently. This might cause people to make their own art style and make their own.

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому

      I agree, I think if the people designing the AI models would get the artists' permission a lot more people would be on board with AI art!

  • @xt-cj7jg
    @xt-cj7jg 7 місяців тому

    Last thing, In the part when "Artist that believe they can recognize elements of their own works in AI art works", for me this is kind of funny since art as you said are inspired from other artist, from techniques such as vanishing point, shading, and generally every step into making a good art, its literally already out there already lol

  • @SingularityZ3ro1
    @SingularityZ3ro1 7 місяців тому +1

    I am a professional designer, and developer, as well. Have also been using AI Art & Coding Copilots heavily over the last year. In a direct pipeline with my usual process (Graphics Tablet & Photoshop). I will definitely not be going back. You get a lot more, and really decent stuff done. Feels like a creative renaissance. I really love it. And you do not end up with stock images etc. that are "kind of" what you have been locking for.
    I get that some people in the professional area are mad, if they have been super specialized in a certain kind of illustration etc. And are now getting less jobs. That said, for 100% quality, and 100% exact intentional look, and composition, AI art can not replace the artist anyway, since it can only generate, not look into your head. And drawing something from scratch is also kind of a development, and creative process itself.
    I have the feeling a lot of people who heavily complain about generative AI have never really been using / testing it, or are no artists, who do art as a hobby. Which, especially in the last case, begs the question, what the complaint is anyway, since you are also doing art just for your self, and art.
    To be spicy, a big chunk of the people complaining have never tried it, and there is also a touch of general disliking of new things, and sometimes full on ludditism. We are entering a new area, 80% of jobs will change completely over the next 2 decades, or we will land in a post labor, meaning economy possibly 30 years down the road. And that can go wrong, but can also be very awesome. And if you need no money to stay alive, it is not that relevant, that you can sell art. But as mentioned, that is decades down the road. Even with AGI within this decade. And humans will always want art, if they have a connection to the artist.
    Ai also get the initial, "It steals, and resells" art, and resells it. And that was true for the first versions. That said, the systems are getting exponentially better, and are also gaining awareness about the context of the art, space & physics. They are already quite good in psychology, philosophy, and meaning. Means, 1-3 years down the road, no one will be able to make the point anymore, that the art is inferior, or not that creative, because it will be created to the same standards, and in a somehow equal process, like a human Artist does (AGI - Artificial General Intelligence).
    At this point, the question will probably be more, if employing an AGI-Agent is some kind of new slave-labor. At least once there are signs of real self-awareness.

    • @WhizPill
      @WhizPill 7 місяців тому

      Replace "AI" with "Greedy Corporations" and you'll see where the hatred is coming from. there's no regard for the people who actually create, they're only seen as a resource to exploit, do you have an IG, would be dope to connect with you there

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому

      Wow, thanks for taking the time to weigh in! I really appreciate the perspective of a professional artist. Since I'm just messing around and having fun with it, I often wonder what real artists think (well, besides the ones suing the AI developers, we know what they think!). This is a really thoughtful and nuanced take, so thanks again for weighing in!

  • @racksityentertainment
    @racksityentertainment 7 місяців тому

    « Art »

  • @xt-cj7jg
    @xt-cj7jg 7 місяців тому

    AI is making some serious strides in the art world. It's fascinating to see how it's evolving to adopt a process more akin to a human artist's approach. Initially, AI would generate art in a single step, but now, there's a shift towards a more nuanced process. This involves starting with a basic sketch and then gradually adding elements, allowing for a more collaborative and creative experience.
    As this technology progresses, it's conceivable that AI-generated art could gain recognition as authentic art. This hinges on ethical creation, where the AI's output is produced with the original artist's consent. Education plays a crucial role too; as people become more informed about the essence of AI art, its acceptance as legitimate art could grow.
    In essence, the future of AI art looks promising, and with continued ethical practices and increased awareness, it could indeed earn its place in the realm of true artistic expression. Quite exciting, isn't it?
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    I think ai can be used by artist because ai is the developing much more rapidly there has been shown in the recent news about ai that they can add in specific steps into making ai art instead of just going straight ahead and making the art meaning as humans we start with a blank canvas and ai are immediately makes the art without any inspiration or imagination so they're trying to develop a way to make more processes into making the ai so we can imagine like making a simple man like we put in a canvas and then we put a simple drawing of a random drawing of a person and instead of making the entire characters of instantly ai can make it so that we can choose what what accessories we can put on them instead of ai auto filling the creative process so i think overtime ai art will actually be considered to real art if the art is ethically made and if the person that makes the model as permission from the original artist then i think it will be considered true art and if people get more educated on what ai or is truly is then maybe it could be considered true art
    as to show how its so damn good at helping you articulate yourself not only in text but hopefully the future artist of tommorow.

    • @VRstylish
      @VRstylish  7 місяців тому

      I'm hopeful about the future of A.I. as well. And I'm excited to see where it goes! The more it develops the better it gets, and as it advances I hope people become more comfortable with it. And inspired by it!